How Michigan Lost $1 Million of Liquor
Sadly, not by drinking it—the government just lost a fifth of the state’s inventory.

It's been a rough couple of years for government-controlled liquor systems. In 2022, news broke of an inside job at the Virginia Alcoholic Beverage Control Authority (ABC), in which a former state employee tipped off private collectors about which state-run liquor stores were expecting deliveries of rare and sought-after bourbons. Last year, Oregon Liquor and Cannabis Commission officials were busted for siphoning off hard-to-obtain bourbons for their personal use.
Now, Michigan is writing the latest chapter in the government's century-long saga of alcohol control embarrassments. According to a just-released audit of the Michigan Liquor Control Commission (MLCC), the state's complete inability to properly track its spirits inventory resulted in nearly a million dollars of liquor disappearing without a trace.
Michigan is one of 17 states that still operates as a control state. MLCC is the sole wholesaler of distilled spirits, meaning all liquor sold and distributed in the state must be originally purchased by the agency. Michigan law requires MLCC to exercise "complete control over alcoholic beverage traffic," but it turns out that the agency lacks control over pretty much everything.
Since the 1990s, MLCC has outsourced the actual storage and warehousing of liquor to three "authorized distribution agents" (ADAs), who in turn use 11 warehouses to house the booze. The ADAs, which essentially act as a government-sanctioned oligopoly, are supposed to be operating as agents of the state. But the state code is silent about what the actual responsibilities of the ADAs entail, which results in a situation where everyone and no one is in charge at the same time.
Perhaps the most significant finding of the audit is that $961,000 of MLCC's liquor inventory—totaling 62,294 bottles, housed in ADA warehouses—mysteriously vanished between January and February 2022. To put this in context, the missing liquor constituted 20 percent of the state's entire inventory. While the state is supposed to conduct physical inventory counts at the ADA warehouses, zero inventory checks took place from October 2019 to July 2022 (which, naturally, MLCC blamed on COVID-19, despite the pandemic not starting in earnest until the spring of 2020 and Michigan lifting its lockdown orders by June 2021).
"MLCC was unable to provide documentation regarding the whereabouts of the missing inventory," the audit dryly remarks. Although one should never ascribe to malice what can be explained by incompetence, it's worth noting that the state's inventory includes spirits ranging as high as $45,000 per bottle, which creates enormous opportunities for malfeasance given MLCC's slipshod tracking protocols.
Were this Agatha Christie-meets-Ayn Rand mystery not enough, the audit goes on to spell out how MLCC is also wholly incapable of ordering rational amounts of each booze type it stocks. The report recounts the agency purchasing 12,204 bottles of a particular spirit in a week in which a mere 1,104 bottles of that spirit were sold. The agency then kept over 11,000 bottles of the spirit on hand for the next 48 weeks—the last 19 of which saw zero sales for it. MLCC also purchased 780 bottles of another spirit over the course of 77 weeks, with zero corresponding sales in any of the weeks those purchases were made.
The MLCC's problems extended beyond inventory ineptitude as well, with the agency also somehow issuing numerous liquor licenses to establishments located in dry jurisdictions, which it now will be forced to revoke. These establishments were selling alcohol in dry locales since 2018 without anyone noticing, until the auditor stepped in.
In perhaps the understatement of the century—and in language only a government lawyer or accountant could appreciate—the audit rates MLCC's overall performance as "not sufficient." The agency's preliminary response is that it "agrees" with all of the audit's findings, as the report's mountain of evidence is apparently too much even for a bureaucracy to ignore.
Lost amid the report's 65 pages of boozy bean-counting—and the scandal of a million dollars of liquor aspirating into thin air—lies a deeper question: Why, in 2024, is the Michigan government still trying to operate as the wholesaler for distilled spirits? It doesn't do so for beer and wine, and it already goes so far as to outsource the actual warehousing and logistics to its distribution agents.
Sadly, the most predictable answer is also likely the most accurate: MLCC has generated some $2 billion for the state's general fund over the past decade. Perhaps a million dollars in missing liquor is a small price to pay after all.
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Yeah, there is zero reason to have a state-run liquor industry anymore, if there ever was one. Dozens of states demonstrate empirically that having private liquor sales is not problematic. Probably the only way this will change is with a referendum.
I think I may have just found the most Chemjeff story ever.
How climate change is hitting vulnerable Indonesian trans sex workers
NBC and a new Jersey candidate running for office linked yesterday's earthquake to climate change. They can't help it.
I noticed the Sun is rising a little earlier each day, and setting a little later each day, and it’s slightly warmer each day. How could we have missed such an obvious sign?
Al Gore was right. Let's go eat crickets, Jesse.
Using the logic of the left, by December each day will have 100 hours of deadly sun, and we will all be dead (again).
I think this finally broke the Babylon Bee business model.
Here's one that I imagine won't be parody next week.
Democrats Warn Parents To Quickly Transition Their Kids Before They Grow Out Of It
Again, how far is this deliberately delusional sarcasm from current or near-future reality?
Indonesian trans sex workers
Mother Lament snared by trannie bait again.
That's right, the people who are devestated by an imaginary disaster impacting imaginary women, is somehow me and not you Democrats.
Hey, imposing a single, actual, physical reality on vulnerable people is oppressive white patriarchy!
Progs hate me because I call a trannie a trannie.
Even you ML - you get all woked up when call out your lawn jockeys.
#MLtheProg
The only minorities you call lawn jockies are the ones you're pissed off at for leaving your party.
“you get all woked up when call out your lawn jockeys.”
Objecting when a Georgia Klansman calls black politicians and judges "lawn jockeys" is hardly woke. That’s like calling someone a prude because they don’t think you should be fucking children.
Then there’s all your malignant racism towards black people. And don’t forget your pedophilia.
That is unreal!! Thanks for posting!
This goes to show a state should never hire auditors.
Much better to do it themselves.
Man am I glad someone finally dared to speak the truth!
No need for audits, just do a recount.
Before or after they find a truckload of uncounted bottles?
Cleanest bottle delivery ever.
Do we know where Sarc was when all this went down?
State run liquor sales are racist, because the idea started with the racist Ben Tillman in South Carolina:
https://www.scencyclopedia.org/sce/entries/dispensary/
In a special twist, South Carolina did the bottling:
https://pre-prowhiskeymen.blogspot.com/2013/11/ben-tillman-and-south-carolina-state.html
Collectors are trying to get those old bottles.
I never knew this. Thanks for sharing.
What liquor costs $45k a bloody bottle? Beyond the obvious answer of "Something I'll never taste," that is.
Everclear
‘In 2019, a 60 year old bottle of Macallan was bought at a Sotheby’s auction for US$ 1.9 million. Originally distilled in 1926, it was sold in its original cask no.263. This was the first bottle that featured a hand-painted design by Irish artist Michael Dillon, and was part of the ‘The Macallan Fine and Rare’ collection. It is dubbed as “the holy grail of whiskey”. After being aged in sherry casks for six decades, just 40 bottles of The Macallan 1926 were bottled, representing the oldest Macallan vintage ever produced.’
Capitalist pigs!
Sorry, that wasn't an objection to it, just shocked inquiry. 😀
Who the f is going to drink that?
It's a trading piece to move money sans govt intervention.
When I put it that way, launder away rich folk!
It is possible that nobody has ever tasted it. Just sitting on it.
That quote is very unclear as to what was actually sold.
"Sold in its original cask"
Was it a bottle bottled in 1986 of McCallan 1926 that sold?
Best article on this is the Forbes November 2023 article.
Most interesting fact?
The last two unlabeled bottles sold by McCallan were worth ~20,000 in the early 2000s.
There are lots of rare vintages out there in different market segments. I think the bigger issues are:
1. why is an agency that should be oriented on middle market sales stocking (speculating?) in rare items?
2. Cui Bono? Who benefits?
1. If you've made yourself a monopoly by law, you either stock _everything_, or you get people complaining and trying to break your monopoly. Ordinary people will do that by smuggling. People who drink $45,000 bottles of whiskey will do it by ordering the legislators on their payroll to introduce bills to abolish the commission,
Prohibition was never repealed. 21A only strengthened the coercive power of State soft machines: "The transportation or importation into any State, Territory, or possession of the United States for delivery or use therein of intoxicating liquors, in violation of the laws thereof, is hereby prohibited." Every state that enacted dry laws suffered financial crises, yet blamed neighboring scofflaw apostasy and demanded invasions. Repeal removes coercion. Fake "legalization" only disguises prohibition as something else in hopes of fooling the accounting firm of Supply and Demand.
And Comstock?
Also, I didn't see any references to "God's own prohibitionists" so this might not be the real Hank.
Nor any mention of ‘girl bulliers’.
Tim Scott leads black Republicans to court support for Trump amid VP speculation
VP speculation - we may just witness the resurgence of Grand Kleagle Buttplug in a matter of weeks.
Wrong spot.
The wet spot is the right spot.
That's why you have to roll the fatties in flour, right?
Oh, shoot, I thought it was flower power, no wonder I was such a miserable hippy!
All that pollen can mess you up.
I always suspected that the Down-Lo Bro was being groomed by the GOP Spin Mob.
Better iron those whites and starch the cone, you might have a busy seven months ahead.
TIMMYE!
I know he is popular in the GOP.
A recent poll found that 89% of Republicans want to own one.
The only one raging at them leaving the dem plantation is you buddy.
Dem plantation.
D.C.?, Chicago? Atlanta?
The vote harvests there are good.
"A recent poll found that 89% of Republicans want to own one."
Weird, seeing how the Democrats are the party of slavery and the Republicans were started as an abolitionist party. I mean isn't slave labour why you guys are importing millions of south and central Americans?
Odds are his stupid ignorant ass didn’t know that. And documentaries about that part of history probably don’t feature small children being raped, so he wouldn’t be interested.
Now apply this lesson to the same two looter parties claiming to have "legalized" weed at gunpoint.
I'm going to need the Hank translator to crack this one.
Will this help?
https://libertariantranslator.wordpress.com/who-is-hank-phillips/
That photo looks to be from the early nineties with the lighting and Hank looks to be around sixty, so he must be close to ninety years old now.
Biden appointed Judge asks the DoJ why they are intentionally ignoring House subpeonas while jailing people like Navarro for ignoring House subpoenas.
https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/biden-appointed-judge-eviscerates-doj-over-non-compliance-house-subpoenas
I will wait for Jeff or Sarc to give the rationalization for one sided use of the law. I’m sure there is a good reason.
They are [D]ifferent.
"intentionally ignoring House subpoenas while jailing people like Navarro for ignoring House subpoenas."
You never get it Jesse, it's (D)ifferent. That's why.
The real point though is to demoralize the opposition through a naked display of power. It's showing them that you're allowed to do anything while they can do nothing.
I'm just surprised Biden fucked up so badly with this judicial pick.
Jesse, in your view, what would be the proper outcome here?
Chemjeff, do you think that:
A. All should go free. Contempt of Congress should be noted but not punished
B. All should go to jail. Contempt of Congress can't be tolerated
C. The Republicans should go to jail, and the Democrats go free unless they're traitorous whores like Tulsi
And can he pick just one or will he gish gallop to explain why thats (D)ifferent?
We already know, based off his comments of Navarro vs Hunter, that it’s C.
Option D: Understand the situation as it actually exists, and not make a false comparison.
There are separation-of-powers issues when the legislative branch tries to impose a subpoena on the executive branch. This is just as true whether it’s Democrats in Congress trying to impose subpoenas on members of the Trump admin, or whether it’s Republicans in Congress trying to impose subpoenas on members of the Biden admin. In general, one branch cannot force another co-equal branch to act against the wishes of the leadership of that branch. This is not 100% true in every case, it is just a general statement. There are exceptions, such as with impeachment or such as if members of the legislative/judicial branch engage in actual criminal conduct and can be charged by the executive branch’s justice department. If you think that Congressional subpoenas ought to be an exception, then make that case.
Private individuals being subpoenaed by Congress, such as Navarro, do not have this separation-of-powers concern because they are not a member of any branch of government. So to understand whether a private individual should be punished for defying a Congressional subpoena, one would have to look at the particulars of that case, and not try to make a superficial comparison to another unrelated case. This doesn’t necessarily mean Navarro is being treated justly or unjustly. I frankly don’t know enough about the specific details of the case.
So, is this enough of a good-faith answer for you, ML? Or are you now going to twist it into something else so that you can call me a Nazi again?
Gish Gallop indeed.
Congressional oversight disappears when a Dem is in control of the executive.
And note the DoJ didn’t go to courts to argue their point, they just refused to show up for interviews. And even a Biden appointed Judge pointed this out, but again, to Jeff, it is (D)ifferent.
Jeff's argument is always: start from how to defend the left, rationalize the argument, do not apply consistently.
What I wrote:
This is just as true whether it’s Democrats in Congress trying to impose subpoenas on members of the Trump admin, or whether it’s Republicans in Congress trying to impose subpoenas on members of the Biden admin.
So Jesse, which option do you pick?
Yeah. You lie about a lot of your bullshit. Doesn't make it true.
You will always change rationalizations dependent on which party it effects. See your defenses of Joe and Trump regarding classified documents. You invent a defense that Joe gave it back 40 years later despite that not being a condition of the law.
An actual libertarian would argue for consistency of the law. If one party abuses the law with novel construction they are liable under the same construction. Mutually assured destruction.
You see the law as a tool to use against your enemies and lie and justify it as such.
Libertarians believe in equal application and execution of the law.
But youre not a libertarian. Youre a fascist.
Yeah. You lie about a lot of your bullshit. Doesn’t make it true.
Oh, well that's convenient for you. So I'll just claim the same about you: all those times when you claim to be sincerely disagreeing with and criticizing Trump, those are all lies. In reality you are a Trump cultist who marches lockstep with him and will not only vote for him but will support him no matter what he does, legal or illegal.
Sound fair to you Jesse?
So your response to being (correctly) called a liar is to proclaim you’re going to lie about Jesse on purpose, lol.
My favorite part of this is that the judge is a dem appointed Judge who even agrees it is ludicrous there are two standards. But jeff of course celebrates the divergent standards.
Just like his J6 terrorists vs the BLM peaceful protestors. Former he literally said it was justified to shoot every J6 protestor. The latter he cried about unmarked vans and only having shield numbers but not names as rioters were arrested.
It is truly fucking amazing.
Just like his J6 terrorists vs the BLM peaceful protestors.
I have never called Jan. 6 rioters "terrorists".
Former he literally said it was justified to shoot every J6 protestor.
That is not true. I said that, from a libertarian perspective, meaning with a strict application of property rights, it would be justifies for the defender of property to shoot trespassers. That does not include "every J6 protestor". INCIDENTALLY, that same rationale also applies to people trespassing on the grounds of, say, the Federal Courthouse in Portland where the BLM rioters got out of hand. Strictly speaking, from a libertarian perspective, it would have been justifiable to shoot them too. Neither one would have been a WISE course of action because there would have been incredible blowback if the authorities actually had done so en masse.
The latter he cried about unmarked vans and only having shield numbers but not names as rioters were arrested.
And I note that you were strangely unconcerned about it, but you are very very concerned about how the Jan. 6 rioters are being treated. It is as if you only give a shit about the rioters on your team.
Incidentally, this person seems to agree with me, that separation of powers is a real concern when it comes to the legislative branch trying to impose subpoenas on the executive branch.
https://reason.com/2019/10/28/pelosi-will-bring-impeachment-inquiry-vote-to-house-floor/?comments=true#comment-7988091
How would you respond to this person?
Wow. Wait until he finds out what happened to Trump... but that was of course, (D)ifferent.
Another AI generated screed.
He runs around with gish gallop in trunks.
"So to understand whether a private individual should be punished for defying a Congressional subpoena, one would have to look at the particulars of that case, and not try to make a superficial comparison"
So "C" then.
That was quite a bit of twatwaffle to explain that it's (D)ifferent when you guys do it.
And yes, that answer exemplifies the fact that your a Nazi.
Once again, I wrote:
There are separation-of-powers issues when the legislative branch tries to impose a subpoena on the executive branch. This is just as true whether it’s Democrats in Congress trying to impose subpoenas on members of the Trump admin, or whether it’s Republicans in Congress trying to impose subpoenas on members of the Biden admin.
Are you going to pull a Jesse and claim that this was a lie?
If you are not going to accept my honest response, why even bother asking the question in the first place?
"Once again, I wrote:
There are separation-of-powers issues when the legislative branch tries to impose a subpoena on the executive branch. This is just as true whether it’s Democrats in Congress trying to impose subpoenas on members of the Trump admin, or whether it’s Republicans in Congress trying to impose subpoenas on members of the Biden admin."
But then you wrote:
“So to understand whether a private individual should be punished for defying a Congressional subpoena, one would have to look at the particulars of that case, and not try to make a superficial comparison”
Which is your bafflegab for what amounts to it was (D)ifferent when Eric Holder, Bryan Pagliano and Lois Lerner did it, or: C. The Republicans should go to jail, and the Democrats go free.
You're such an incredible weasel you'll even take yourself out of context.
There is no "bafflegab". I meant what I wrote: "one would have to look at the particulars of that case". Meaning, that one would have to look at the particulars of the case. Was due process followed? Was the Congressional subpoena pursuant to a legitimate power of Congress? That is what I meant.
So ML, what is the option that you choose as a proper resolution here?
A. All should go free. Contempt of Congress should be noted but not punished
So Congress should not be allowed to compel testimony even for, say, impeachment?
Could you imagine trying to pass yourself off as a libertarian and then proclaiming government employees have less of a duty to the law than private citizens.
Jeff views everything through a partisan lense. He can’t understand the concept that either everyone who violates the wording of the law is guilty or everyone who commits the same non legal executed act is innocent.
He isnalwaya looking for tiny differences to justify the partisan application of the law. Like a true fascist.
Jeff never looks to the wording of the law either. Simply repeating the justification for political use of the law against his perceived enemies.
I mean jeff was just this week defending sentences of 1 to 10 years for slightly blocking the path of people at abortion clinics (Video shows patients taking one step to get past), even for one clinic operating in violation of state law. It is fucking amazing.
I mean jeff was just this week defending sentences of 1 to 10 years for slightly blocking the path of people at abortion clinics
Not true. I did not defend those sentences. In fact I don't think it should be a federal crime at all to block the entrance to any non-federal building, that should be a matter for state and local authorities. I was only pointing out that your source was lying when it claimed that they were prosecuted for "singing and praying".
Can you be honest even once?
You’re possibly the most dishonest creature to ever comment here.
Here, let me make this clear for you:
I DISAGREE WITH THE FACE ACT AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE REPEALED. IT IS WRONG FOR BIDEN OR ANY PRESIDENT TO PROSECUTE ANYONE UNDER THE FACE ACT BECAUSE THE LAW SHOULDN’T EXIST IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Do you hear me now?
From the wayback times of 2019:
https://reason.com/2019/08/08/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-i-have-a-lot-of-common-ground-with-many-liber
https://reason.com/2019/10/28/pelosi-will-bring-impeachment-inquiry-vote-to-house-floor/?comments=true#comment-7988091
Funny how when it was Trump admin officials getting subpoenaed by Congress, you were concerned about "coequal branches" and separation of powers. Now when it's Biden admin officials getting subpoenaed by Congress, you argue that it's wrong for them to ignore the subpoenas.
I am the one applying a principled standard here. You are the one who has different standards based on partisan interests.
government employees have less of a duty to the law than private citizens.
Not what I wrote.
Jeff views everything through a partisan lense.
Not true. That is you, Jesse.
He can’t understand the concept that either everyone who violates the wording of the law is guilty
When the cases are directly comparable, yes, I agree with you. But that is rarely the case, because every case has its own details and potentially extenuating (or aggravating) circumstances.
or everyone who commits the same non legal executed act is innocent.
WTF is a "non legal executed act"? Are you referring to someone who breaks the law but is not prosecuted? If someone breaks the law and is not prosecuted, that doesn't make the person 'innocent' of that crime.
He isnalwaya looking for tiny differences to justify the partisan application of the law.
But I am not applying the separation-of-powers concept in a partisan manner. That is you Jesse, who was insistent upon invoking it when it was Trump admin officials being subpoenaed by Congress, but now conveniently ignore it when it's Biden admin officials being subpoenaed by Congress. I explicitly said that separation of powers applies to everyone regardless if it's Democrats or Republicans. Are you willing to do the same? Are you?
Jeff never looks to the wording of the law either. Simply repeating the justification for political use of the law against his perceived enemies.
You mean like shouting "coequal branches!!!" when it is a Trump admin official defying a Congressional subpoena? Is that what you mean?
Navarro was part of the executive branch Lying Jeffy.
So what do you think? Which option do you pick?
Funny how none of you are actually answering this question. You demand I answer it and then you lie about my answer, claim I'm lying and shove words in my mouth.
Why, it's almost as if you have no interest in a good faith discussion, only in trolling.
I did, fifty-center, and paid shills are the last people on the planet who should be talking about good faith discussion. Everything you just posted above evinces that.
It only took you six hours. Well done!
I've decided to spend the day in quiet contemplation. I fear the recent confluence of events may be signaling a disruption in The Force. First we recognized the formerly invisible transsexuals on Easter Sunday. Then Lady Liberty's torch was struck by lightning. Then an inconsequential earthquake created panic on the east coast with it's epicenter beneath Donald Trump's New Jersey golf club. Meanwhile Literally Anybody Else threatens to upend our well ordered democratic system. Biden judges screaming at the DOJ. DOJ screaming at Trump judges. When will this madness end? Should I consult the New Testament or finish my 1040 and the required schedules? Or just crack open another beer?
Giant Meteor 2024!
Conspiracy theory afoot that the sun will be blacked out in two days! Nowhere to run! Nowhere to hide!
Climate change is causing more people to be exposed to solar eclipses.
If the NYT, WaPo, and MSNBC repeated that a few times, you know it would become part of The Science.
BEER!!!
Definitely go with beer.
So, the strict abortion laws in red states are being challenged in court.
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4577547-tennessee-abortion-ban-hearing/
The issue here seems to be one of "legal vagueness" when it comes to these bills' exceptions for saving the life of the mother.
So this is a real problem. Risk-averse doctors are not performing life-saving abortions because they fear punishment.
What is the appropriate solution here?
Looks like warrantless wiretapping is going to continue.
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/4577597-speaker-johnson-fisa-bill/
Some friends and i In a public house
Were playing domino's one night,
Into the room the barman came
His face all chalky white
Oh look. A woman was fired from Starbucks because of her “conservative values”.
https://archive.is/mf6FS
This story as presented is just too good to be true, because it plays too well into the right-wing narrative of “liberal company oppressing conservative workers”. So let’s see if we can figure out the reality of what happened here.
First, she says that she raised concerns about a Pride Month display that in her opinion was not “family friendly”. But the image presented in the story does not have anything that is particularly profane or obscene. Is the term “demisexual” obscene? Not appropriate for kids? If so, how exactly? And incidentally, what is the connection between her concerns here and her Christian faith?
Second, she says that she refused to use customers’ preferred pronouns, because in her words, she was being asked to lie, and that contradicted her faith.
“According to my faith, you’re not supposed to lie.”
Okay, fine. But let’s be honest here: did she really apply that standard evenly? I’m sure there is some Starbucks policy along the lines of “be nice to customers”. When she was inevitably superficially polite to customers who treated her rudely, and said “have a nice day”, was that a lie? Was that contrary to her faith? Did she complain that this Starbucks policy was contravening her faith?
Why is it, that her religious demand to not lie ONLY seemed to matter when it involved trans people and preferred pronouns? Is she simply using her Christian faith as an excuse to justify not being cordial to transgender customers?
There are plenty of arguments against preferred pronouns, but the one of “they contradict my faith” is a new one to me anyway. Frankly if she wanted to use a faith-based objection, she probably would have been better off going full Leviticus and denouncing all of homosexuality as sinful including transgenderism. But I think she's trying to have it both ways: to not look like a complete bigot, and yet still claim she has a legitimate faith-based reason to object to this Starbucks policy.
Fuck em'. Nobody has a right to demand imaginary appellations from another.
I don't have to call a priest, "father", a university professor, "doctor", and I don't have to call a dirty pervert in a skirt who wants me to help him indulge in his autogynephilia fetish, "Ma'am".
If your employment contract requires you call a university professor "doctor", don't you think your employer would be justified in firing you if you violated this portion of your employment contract? Furthermore, do you think your termination would be a violation of your *religious* liberty?
No. Because if they did they're fascist fucks who are expressly doing the opposite of the free expression expected to be present in every university.
You're such a totalitarian shill you didn't even remember the basic premise of a university.
Also, is your example actually a doctorate holder or is he an uneducated pervert who gets sexual jollies from pretending to be a doctor? Because why would the University force me to play along with his fetish when he's not actually a doctorate holder?
Oh FFS. I am using your own hypothetical example. This isn't a discussion about the proper role or conduct of a university. This is a discussion about what employers may or may not ask their employees to do. You are such a disingenuous shit.
Is there any way at all that we can have any honest discussion about anything? Is there?
By the way. Very well done in setting up that hypothetical example as a trap for me to walk into. I will be more mindful of your traps in the future.
You completely avoided the substance of my comment with your 'how dare you' outrage when it came to universities.
I agree that universities, in general, should foster an environment of free expression.
But in keeping with the tenor of your hypothetical example - which I now realize was nothing but a trap - I tried to construct an example that would further the discussion. That was a mistake.
So, let me try again. If an employer has, as a part of the employment contract, a stipulation that "employees must do X", do you think that the employer would be justified in firing an employee which refused to do X?
Fake story.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/gop-montana-candidate-tim-sheehy-says-he-lied-to-ranger-in-2015-about-how-he-was-shot
So, the Republican Senate candidate in Montana, Tim Sheehy, was once shot in the arm.
How did this happen? Well, depending on which day you ask him, it was either:
- A gunshot wound from combat in Afghanistan
- An accidental self-inflicted wound in Glacier National Park in Montana
And when the press finally discovered that he has been telling inconsistent stories about the gunshot wound, naturally, he accused the press of "questioning his service".
There goes Trump again:
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-compares-himself-nelson-mandela-sparking-ridicule-1887670
He is comparing himself to Nelson Mandela because of the judicial 'gag order' placed upon him.
So let's review:
Nelson Mandela: spent time in jail for fighting against a racist and oppressive system of apartheid
Donald Trump: demands the right to insult the judge's daughter
And I suppose this is the time where the usual suspects claim "LOOK AT JEFF HE'S DEFENDING THE GAG ORDER'. No, I am mocking Trump for comparing himself to someone who was actually genuinely oppressed.
Speaking of wearing Mandela's halo, remember how offended Kreemjeff was when Biden claimed numerous times that he was arrested visiting Nelson Mandela?
Neither do I.
I guess that was (D)ifferent.
First time I have heard of this. That is pretty dumb of him.
"Donald Trump: demands the right to insult the judge’s daughter"
This is how incredibly fucking fascist NaziJeff is. He's regurgitating the narrative of the DNCs party organs and pretending pointing out the obvious is somehow "insulting".
Loren Merchan, the "judges daughter" has a direct financial interest in the case due to her work for a Democratic Party consulting firm. She worked directly for Rep. Adam Schiff, the lead prosecutor in the Republican’s first impeachment trial. Her company's client list includes Biden and Kamala Harris.
It would be absolutely unacceptable to Jeffy if the judge presiding over these proceedings had an adult child who worked at WinRed or MAGA Inc., but somehow this is (D)ifferent as always.
The judge absolutely should have recused himself by any standard, but instead is refusing to in what is obviously part of a giant fucking fiddle. But that's not Jeff's problem. Jeffy's problem is that it's somehow "insulting" to point that out.
When I call Jeff a Nazi, folks, I'm not resorting to hyperbole.
Even simpler than that. Everyone has the right to demean the judges daughter. Jeff demands favored democrats be protected. Jeff hates free speech.
Demanding the right to insult the judge's daughter doesn't transform Trump into Nelson Mandela.
Cite?
OMG you are such an asshole. Demanding the right to insult the judge’s daughter doesn’t make Trump into Nelson Mandela. It makes him a self-absorbed narcissist.
You are such a dishonest, obnoxious, partisan right-wing tool, it is just hard to fathom. This was never about whether the judge should have recused himself or not. This was about Trump stupidly comparing himself to someone who was ACTUALLY oppressed. But like the little lapdog toadie that you are, you rush to Trump’s defense and attack anyone who might make him look bad. I do give you credit for trying to shift the goalposts in a direction that is more favorable to you. But it is still shifting the goalposts, and you are still an asshole for trying it.
Tell me, why should I give you any consideration whatsoever as anything other than a right-wing partisan?
Do you think Trump is comparable to Nelson Mandela? Yes or no?
Sorry. I was thirsty.
And yet New Hampshire, home of the Free State Project, has a state monopoly on liquor sales, and it works well there. It makes a profit for the state, and keeps the markup low enough to attract a lot of customers from surrounding states with high tax rates.
I won't defend it in principle though.