Parents Investigated for Letting 7-Year-Old Get a Cookie From the Store
"You just can't raise kids like that anymore—it isn't safe," the cops told the Widner family.
Beth Widner is a mother who lives in Canton, a middle-class suburb of Atlanta, Georgia. She has four kids, whom she homeschools while her husband, Glenn, telecommutes.
In August of 2018, the Widner kids—then ages 13, 11, nine, and seven—were members of a swim team at their local YMCA, which was about two blocks from their house. One day, after swim practice, the 7-year-old, Jackson, lagged behind while the rest of his siblings walked home, and stopped by the grocery for a free cookie.
A store employee thought it was so unusual to see an unaccompanied 7-year-old that a store employee called 911. Then, instead of letting him leave, the employee told Jackson he had to wait for the police to arrive.
This became part of a pattern; indeed, Jackson's semi-independence attracted police attention on no fewer than three occasions, leading to two investigations by Child Protective Services (CPS).
Widner recently had the opportunity to share these experiences with the governor's office. (The meeting was arranged by the Reason Foundation, which publishes Reason, and Let Grow, the non-profit at which both of us work.) She hoped that her story would inspire support for a "Reasonable Childhood Independence" law in the state. Such laws establish that neglect occurs when parents put kids in obvious, serious danger, not anytime they let their kids out of sight.
We hope to see a law like that passed in Georgia sometime soon. Eight other states have already jumped on the bandwagon, and this year Michigan, Missouri, and New Hampshire will vote on similar bills.
When Jackson refused to tell the authorities where he lived—having been taught not to give such information to strangers—the police deduced he had been swimming and went to the YMCA to learn more. The cops were very cross with Jackson and informed him that being out and about without his parents was a serious infraction. He responded that he would promptly go home "if you would just leave me alone," his mother recalled later.
After the police finally brought Jackson home, they informed his father, Glenn, that it wasn't safe to let a child his age wander around outside.
"You just can't raise kids like that anymore—it isn't safe," said the cops.
Glenn begged to differ, reciting statistics that kids today face no greater risk from stranger danger than previous generations. Nevertheless, the police summoned child protective services.
A caseworker from Georgia's Division of Family and Child Services arrived a few hours later. She told the family, assembled together, that the police report stated that Jackson had been unattended from 8:00 a.m. until 2:00 p.m. The Widners set the record straight—swim practice had ended by 10:45 a.m., and everyone had been back at home well before lunch—and the caseworkers closed the investigation. She even said that her own kids could learn a bit more independence from the Widners, Beth recalled.
But that was not the end of things. Later that year, for Christmas, Jackson received a new bike. On January 2, just before lunch, he asked his mom if he could ride it and off he went. An older woman in the park stopped Jackson, telling him he was too young to ride his bike alone. According to Jackson, he took a few more circles around the park and then ducked into the grocery for—you guessed it—a free cookie.
Soon thereafter, Beth got a call from Jackson, using the new watch phone his parents had gotten him after the August incident. He said the police wanted to speak to her. Once again, cops had detained Jackson for being outside unsupervised.
Beth got to the grocery parking lot within a couple of minutes. She found Jackson seated like a suspect in the backseat of a cruiser. The complaining witness watched as the police let Beth take her son home. Beth wasn't told what to expect further, and she didn't hear from child services. But she later learned that child services had been informed about Jackson's flagrant act of unaccompanied bike riding.
On January 18, Jackson's unabated taste for free cookies turned into a full-blown investigation. While his parents had warned him that he should not indulge his sweet tooth (or independence) anymore, he went to the grocery store after a bike ride once again. As in August, a store employee called the police. The employee fed him chicken and fries—it was lunch time—to stall him until the cops arrived. The police then escorted Jackson home, bike and all. Glenn came to the door to hear what the cops had to say about his son, the cookie recidivist.
One of the police officers accused Glenn of "breaking the law" by letting Jackson go out alone. "What law is that?" Glenn inquired. The officer replied, "You can Google it." The most senior officer accused him of neglect and "contributing to delinquency of the minor," and told him not only could he be arrested, but he might face felony charges and spend time in jail.
A CPS caseworker showed up two hours later. Unlike the first one, who had complimented the family, this one accused the family of having "a problem with child supervision." When Beth and Glenn asked what specific law they had broken, she said she didn't have it written down.
The caseworker proceeded to question all four children at the kitchen table, then notified the Widners that they would be subject to a "parenting plan" requiring them to supervise the children at all times. The Widners told her that they would not be following the plan. Upon hearing this probably unusual response, the caseworker warned the Widners that she would talk to her supervisor.
After she left, the Widners never heard another word from her, although a few weeks later, two unidentified caseworkers stopped by the house asking to speak to Glenn. He wasn't home and they left.
The Widners realized their freedom to raise their kids as they saw fit was in danger. Fearful that they could land on Georgia's child abuse and neglect registry, Beth and Glenn decided to move the family outside city limits. Jackson, now 12, no longer worries about asking for a free cookie at the store.
But a state law that definitively puts the matter to rest—by stating unequivocally that the police should not harass parents who let their kids exercise some basic independence—could offer further protection.
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“You just can’t raise kids like that anymore—it isn’t safe,” the cops told the Widner family.
And why isn’t it safe, officer? Aren’t there police to protect us from the bad guys?
Like I always say, how could anarchy be worse when all this archy brings us this kind of crap.
At no time on history has the United States been “safer” for children. Yet the fear porn purveyors control the narrative. A frightened populace is a obedient populace.
When you look at the walls of pictures of “missing” children the majority have one thing in common, they were taken by the non custodial parent without the custodial parent’s consent. Technically kidnapping, yes. But not the idealist people have of dark figures in the shadows abducting a child off the street to sell to a wealthy Arab as a slave.
You need to be in Europe for that to happen. That’s what I learned from Liam Neeson.
Of course not. Cops go to court all the time establishing the fact that they have no obligation to anyone to stop crime. They prefer to show up after the murder, when the killer is gone, lest they chip a nail.
I’m so sick of this new fearful culture. If I’m five feet from my shopping cart some old lady is hollering at me. If my seven year old walks his dog around our cul de sac of million dollar houses populated by the occasional old person it’s controversy. I took him to soccer practice today, I told the coaches I’m running to the grocery store, be back a half hour out of a 60 minute practice, they are freaking out, ‘will we be able to get a hold of you?’ What is wrong with people? The fear of nothing is insane. Are we just a world of old women now?
If more people would exercise their 2nd amendment right to carry a firearm, they wouldn’t be so afraid of their own shadow.
They would be horrified at our “come home when the streetlights are on” parents. They never knew where we were on the weekends until we got back.
So why wasn’t the “store employee” arrested for kidnapping?
Yeah, I was on the “That could’ve been me.” page right up until the part where Jackson just hung around waiting for the cops to show up.
Even if that was what happened (to me/us), the cops would wind up in a situation where they would have the testimony of a minor (or two or more) that, effectively, a shopkeeper kidnapped/detained them without cause stacked against their “We don’t think you should be parenting like that.” defense.
The officer replied, “You can Google it.”
If the officers were required to know the laws they enforce that could be a real problem. The rest of us just to “Google it” I guess.
Also, the core problem here is the 7-year-old violating the sacred rule of being an independent child: Don’t talk to strangers. Talking to random ass old ladies in the park who have a problem with him? WRONG. Accepting a free meal from a grocery store employee? DOUBLE WRONG.
Cops don’t know the law. That’s what the DA is for. They are told what laws they are too charge people under.
Every cop I’ve ever talked to (and that’s a lot of them), know the law a lot better than most average citizens.
Sure, but is it too much to ask that they know the specific law that they are arresting or threatening to arrest someone for, especially if asked?
The average citizen knows the law from watching Law and Order. That’s not a high bar to set.
I’ve had cops quote me laws before, they were always wrong.
The best example was the cop who harassed me because I was carrying my bicycle. It had a flat. I showed him the flat tire. He asked for my ID. I told him I didn’t have to show it to him. He said I did and when I asked what law he said 18-3- and three digits that I forget. In Colorado 18 is criminal code. 3 is for the assault category. He didn’t appreciate it when I corrected him. There was no law in the 90s that required a pedestrian to provide a cop with ID on demand in Colorado . That only works if you are operating a motor vehicle.
Same city I had one say I was obstructing an officer when I wouldn’t talk to him. I told him I’d have to be two people keeping him from reaching someone else he was chasing to fall under that particular Colorado law. Being an asshole isn’t obstruction, and it’s not illegal. At least not in the 90s in Colorado. Could be now, I don’t live there anymore.
HAHAHAHA, no. The cops actually don’t know the law well, especially now as we have too many fucking damn laws to begin with. Outside of the few they typically enforce, they really know jack shit about the law.
“most average citizens”… lol, not exactly setting a high bar, are we? I’d bet even Reason readers, psychotic right wing nutters though they may be 99% of the time, know more about the law on average than the average cop.
No, the sacred rule that seems to be in play here is that every complaint to the police is presumptively valid. Whoever calls first has the police on their side. If the 7YO had dropped the dime on the store employee, the shoe would’ve been on the other foot.
Another application would be that everyone should claim sexual assault against everyone else preemptively. The accuser has the advantage.
DEA sicario detected
‘When Jackson refused to tell the authorities where he lived—having been taught not to give such information to strangers—the police deduced he had been swimming at went to the YMCA to learn more. The cops were very cross with Jackson and informed him that being out and about without his parents was a serious infraction. He responded that he would promptly go home “if you would just leave me alone,” his mother recalled later.’
This kid sounds like a MAGA insurrectionist. How dare he tell police to leave him alone. I hope LE knocked him around a bit and shot his dog.
I hope LE knocked him around a bit and shot his dog.
And then had a stroke the next day for unrelated reasons and got a hero’s funeral all while the kid and his MAGA insurrectionist parents were held in solitary for several years awaiting trial.
The kid was only a few feet from a fire extinguisher. Thank god the cops all got home safe that night.
Time for those people to move .
Where? Meddlesome people who think they know better than you live everywhere.
It’s definitely better some places than others.
You’ve got to get to be somewhere rural to get cops that think first and shoot much later.
“”Beth and Glenn decided to move the family outside city limits. Jackson, now 12, no longer worries about asking for a free cookie at the store.”
Next time, RTFA. They did move.
Glad they took my advice.
I mean, 1. why would the kid keep going to a place that hassles him? and 2. I hope he doesn’t get in a van that offers cookies.
Because the seven-year-old got a cookie, a lot of attention, and a free ride in a police car?
That pretty much defines an amazing day for a 7 year old.
Risk of someone in a van trying to kidnap him s pretty darn close to zero. Unless the van is on behalf of the non-custodial parent…
There’s a bit of a dilemma here. If you tel the police not to harass families who let their kids outside without a bubble and a secret service escort, then the police need to be able to collectively know that they already talked to this family a couple times and it’s fine. Which implies a database—something else we’d rather they not be doing. Perhaps the answer is to educate the public not to be busybodies, since all of Jackson’s extra-sensical encounters with the authorities seem to have originated with citizens calling the police because a child under the age of 36 was wandering around alone.
But that’s all in reference to reasonable public dialogue. The store employee who groomed little Jackson with chicken tenders so he wouldn’t leave before the popo arrived needs a different solution, preferably involving sacks of quarters.
“”Which implies a database—something else we’d rather they not be doing.””
It’s all databases these days.
or….. we can just make sure the cops know it is none of their business….
next, we can work on getting the busy bodies to realize that letting a kid ride a bike isn’t neglect, but i am pretty sure the cops know how to do nothing when they respond to a call and it is a nothing-burger. (unless there is a dog…. then the dog must die.)
cop: “do your parents know you are out riding your bike?”
kid: “yes.”
cop: “ok, bye.”
The police should fucking know better.
When someone calls 911 and says “we have a y young boy here at the store.” The cops should say, “did he shoplift or commit a crime?” When the answer is, “no, he just came in for a free cookie.” the reply should be, “why are you giving kids free cookies and calling us when they come in and get one?”
Reason: Parents Investigated for Letting 7-Year-Old Get a Cookie From the Store
Also Reason: DARE Didn’t Make Kids ‘Say No’ to Drugs. It Normalized Police in Schools.
So Reason doesn’t favor police parenting our children? Seems fair to me.
So Reason doesn’t favor police parenting our children?
Facts not in evidence. They aren’t just free to say there shouldn’t even be public schools for police officers to show up in to say “Don’t use drugs, kids.”, it’s practically expected of them.
Instead, they tell us Kyle Rittenhouse shouldn’t have been in Kenosha, assume that we all agree on reasonable COVID measures, and talk about how oppressive the bad old days were when police passively told kids not to do drugs while Lenore “Not Employed by Reason” Skenazy tells us what oppressive monsters every last shopkeeper, COVID marm, and self-appointed parking lot monitor is.
But, of course, you’ve been around long enough to know all this and were just giving Reason the benefit of the doubt satirically… because that would make you seem funny rather than retarded.
No. I’m retarded. I was perceiving your comment regarding today’s 2 articles about police and children out of context, not in the context of Reason’s take on these new public schools, Rittenhouse, COVID and every other article article in the past. Now that I think about it in relation to Stossel’s article on oceanfront home insurance subsidies, I see how foolish I’ve been.
Reason: Parents Investigated for Letting 7-Year-Old Get a Cookie From the Store
Also Reason: DARE Didn’t Make Kids ‘Say No’ to Drugs. It Normalized Police in Schools
Also, also Reason: More Than 1 in 4 Kids Are Chronically Absent From School, Report Shows
No. I’m retarded.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I tried to give *you* the benefit of the doubt.
I skipped the 1 in 4 story, but judging that book by its cover, I’ll give you credit for the lack of consistency all in 1 day there.
Lesson learned: if you let your kids be independent, they might be kidnapped by the police.
I think it’s hilarious that the police are now a much greater threat to most of us than the criminals and insane people are – except in Seattle, of course, where the police have been defunded and “catch and release” is the law of the land.
In my experience people who support the police have never been the victim of a crime. Everyone I know who has called the cops for help after being the victim of a crime are of the opinion that they’re like lesbians, in that they don’t do dick.
Now do federal “police”.
Let’s unmute to see what kind of nonsense Big Mac has to say. Sure enough it’s J6 Derangement Syndrome. Back on mute you go.
You support them in cases outside of 1/6. I wasn’t actually even thinking about that.
Yup. Back to the unlit padded cell.
I have called 911 exactly three times in my 57 years of life: one burglary, one hit and run, one vandalism. On all three occasions the police response was “We don’t come out for that, you can file a report.” They’re useless. Two of the three crimes I handled myself to a satisfactory conclusion. I no longer support the police, and I would happily vote to defund them, seize the pensions, and refund the money back to the taxpayers.
Whenever I’ve asked them for help all they did was search me and run me for warrants, then leave.
Agreed.
Seems like the police in Canton, GA have too little real crime to investigate.
in Seattle, of course, where the police have been defunded and “catch and release” is the law of the land.
You’d think there would be some happy medium between police with too much time on their hands hassling parents for the “sin” of letting their children have some independence and “catch and release” because they don’t have the resources to do their actual fucking jobs.
Of course, part of the issue is also that real criminals tend to be violent and therefore dangerous, while hassling suburban soccer moms and dads for letting their kid have some unsupervised outdoor time is much lower risk. Whatever allows them to all go home at night while still feeling like “Big Damn Heroes” I guess.
You’d think there would be some happy medium between police with too much time on their hands hassling parents for the “sin” of letting their children have some independence and “catch and release” because they don’t have the resources to do their actual fucking jobs.
Dude, police showing up in front of millions of kids over the course of three decades saying “Don’t use drugs”, arresting a handful of parents, and, at most egregious, charging two of them… again in *three decades* is beyond the pale for some libertarians (who also think everyone should get vaccinated or fired, vaccine passports and COVID tracking are a good idea, and/or that Kyle Rittenhouse shoudn’t have been in Kenosha and J6 was an insurrection).
My neighbor has the opposite problem. Their boy is 13 but looks 16. So they get hassled when they go fishing because the rabbit rangers think he needs a license.
“She even said that her own kids could learn a bit more independence from the Widners”
That doesn’t fit the narrative that we all must be dependent on the government for protection. None of us may learn to be independent or “Our Democracy (TM)” will be in grave peril! The Widner children must all end up living in their parents’ basement at the age of thirty so that they can receive their monthly welfare checks.
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To be fair, they’re not entirely wrong. There are dangerous people about – like cops, nosy busybodies, and CPS caseworkers.
Bingo!
Who will protect us from our protectors?
People need to learn to mind their own damn business.
Forty-plus years ago, as an 8 and 9 year old, once a week my friend and I would ride our bikes, by ourselves, roughly 2 or 3 miles, to spend our allowance at the comic book store and the Thrifty drugstore for an ice cream cone.
It’s amazing I’m still alive.
Same here. Nobody would look sideways if a 7 year old walked into a store for a cookie. 25 years ago my wife and I had a small business in a little village in Illinois. In the summer our son hung out at the shop. Every day he rode his bike all over town and ended up at the local tavern where he’d belly up to the bar and get served a mug of root beer. Never heard a complaint. I keep hearing that
Gen Z are all mentally ill and or chronically depressed. I have a theory as to why that may be.
Gen Z are all mentally ill and or chronically depressed. I have a theory as to why that may be.
Not to refute your assertion exactly but, a couple years ago on vacation on the border with WI, we placed a takeout order at the local pizzeria/pub. I took our youngest Zoomer with me to pick it up. When we got there, it was it was going to be another 15 min. and the Millennial barkeep told us just to have a seat at the bar. I said that he’s not 21, just to be clear that we wouldn’t/couldn’t cause any problem. She replied that it would only be a problem if we were on the other side of the river in IL and asked if we needed anything. I said I’d take a water. She turned to him and he said, “Give me 3 fingers of milk.” which I snorted at and thoroughly confused the Millennial barkeep.
Kids today aren’t what they once were. Seven year olds are throwing chairs at their teachers and cussing out other students. My daughter works at a nice grocery store and says there are kids that literally climb on the shelves WHILE their dad is with them. Imagine the mayhem this kid could have been creating. I wouldn’t want someone else’s kid in my store.
I remember when me and my best friend, 8 or 9 at the time, collected enough returnables to buy a six pack of O’Douls. We sat on the curb on Main Street and drank the whole thing thinking we were so cool. Then we rode our bikes home and watched Dukes of Hazzard, with the Schlitz bull crashing through the wall in the commercials. Good times.
O’douls actually has about half a percent of alcohol. I’m here for your origin story.
In the 1950s, my father and his friends would ride their bikes like 20 miles to get to the old family farm so they could shoot guns.
They were like 12 or so when they did that, so a little older, but yeah, at that age I would walk a couple miles to the mall or movie theater.
When I was a kid I climbed a 100 foot pine tree. I could see all the way to the big city (Fresno) from up there! Then I fell out of the tree. I am alive only because I hit several branches on the way down.
My mom beat my ass for getting pine pitch all over my clothing.
He responded that he would promptly go home “if you would just leave me alone,”
Wisdom from the mouths of babes.
The Widners are awesome.
Last year I took a friend grocery shopping because her car was in the shop. It was a nice day so I stayed in my car reading a book. A car pulled in next to mine and a woman got out. Her son who was about 10 years old asked to stay in the car to finish watching a show on his tablet. So she went into the store. A few minutes later some busybody comes looking around the car. She looks at me and says “Is he alone in that car?” I said “No. I’m watching him. I work with his Mother.” “Oh!” and she walks off. A few minutes later his Mother comes out and they leave. I didn’t have a clue who they were. The kid was fine and never in any danger.
I’ve done that before when some Karen had called the Police for the same situation.
Bless you. You are a saint. We need more people like you.
Thank you for that.
Strangely, looking out for other people’s kids used to be the norm.
Back in the 1950’s my dad saw a young girl crying on a stoop (NYC). He saw a broken bottle of kerosene in front of her that she had obviously dropped. Kerosene heaters were common at the time. She was afraid to go home because kerosene was expensive and so was the bottle that she had been sent to get filled. My dad bought her a new bottle of kerosene and carried it back to her.
My dad didn’t know the kid or her parents. He did it because it was the right thing to do.
Strangely, looking out for other people’s kids used to be the norm.
Stranger danger didn’t help anything.
Quoting from another article above
I think that stranger danger did a lot of harm to society.
Most strangers are nice people. People you know on the other hand…
“Don’t talk to strangers” was always dumb. And scared the shit out of a lot of kids who started to see strangers as automatically suspect. A stranger is way more likely to help your kid than harm them.
Or, as in the case of this article, think they’re helping by calling the cops.
I saw a report about how mobs work. In an airport, if the plane is running on time, and the flight is without incident, essentially no one talks to anyone, even on the same row. We ignore strangers. But as soon as there is some horrible incident or a canceled flight, people begin to talk and relate and they connect like old friends who help each other out. These strangers will carpool, share resources, and if the incident was a dangerous one, they will all help out the injured.
The same is true of a group who is violently protesting and acting like a mob … they generally won’t get hurt until the cops pop a few with non-lethal rounds or lethal ones. It was a video about crowd crushes … the mob-like crowds don’t crush themselves due to unruliness. It’s the improperly designed places with chokepoints and miscommunication that cause crowd crushes – and the people in the back don’t do it on purpose because they hate the strangers in front of them or something.
the mob-like crowds don’t crush themselves due to unruliness. It’s the improperly designed places with chokepoints and miscommunication that cause crowd crushes
Those would have to be some pretty poorly designed places and chokepoints for them to develop a malevolent intent, spring to life, and start crushing members of the mob. Sounds a bit like a mob of observers I heard about who threw themselves in front of an innocent Red SUV at a Christmas parade.
It is really tragic that so many people (especially men) are afraid to help or even talk to a strange child now. It does take a village (just not in the Hillary Clinton “we own your children” way).
Thank you for that.
Sounds like shit that didn’t happen to me.
Not that I don’t believe people ever took care of other people’s kids, but that the idea that a Karen just accepted the explanation from some random dude in the next car as though he himself weren’t a child predator seems dubious. A significant portion of these stories involve calling the cops on parents who are present. That a Karen would inspect such a situation and not at least find the degree to which the windows were rolled up or down unacceptable, let alone that another Mother leaving her child with a coworker in a separate car was, for whatever reason, problematic? Unbelievable.
Then to go further and assert it happened again/previously and that “I lied and said I was a coworker when the cops were called.”? Bullshit.
My parents would have spent all their time talking to CPS, or in jail.
Okaaay! I’ll just keep my kid inside and let them binge on video games and junk food all day. He’ll be more likely to die from a heart attack, suicide, or have diabetes by the time he’s 30, but at least some homo pedo won’t have obducted him.
Except most of the homo-pedos are haunting online game chats now (probably, I don’t actually know).
In my family, the oldest kid was tasked with keeping an eye on the younger siblings. When the four kids walked home from the Y, the older kids should have made sure the seven-year-old was with them, instead of letting him wander off.
Exactly, the whole situation seems unlikely. It’s more likely that these parents who encourage “independence” actually just are crappy parents and don’t want to be bothered. Well, mom and dad, neither does the rest of the world. Keep your kids out of my business!
Glenn begged to differ, reciting statistics that kids today face no greater risk from stranger danger than previous generations.
No, these days the predators are usually known to them – and come at them in the schools, via social media, and in pop culture.
They’re called the LGBT.
As for stranger danger – that’s only true if you limit the statistics to citizens born and raised in first-world Western culture. Factor in all the border jumpers – particularly from the Muslim world and from Latin American gangland – and the stranger danger is MUCH higher these days. Especially since they can engage in crime with near total impunity and unaccountability.
Did you know Jeezus died for your sins?
Bad example of a free-range kid who runs around willy-nilly and gets in trouble for existing. When I free-ranged, I was invariably not interacting with store employees except on the rare occasion I was sent in to the store with my mom outside for Wolf Brand Chili. (I failed, by the way … I got dog food. OR actually, maybe it was the other way around!)
What a better kid would have done is listen to his dad and stayed out of the cookie store. This kid was a free roamer and not under proper supervision. When he disobeyed, that he was no longer being supervised, was he?
Red State of Georgia Making ‘Murica Grate Again!
You think I mock Georgia? I do!
I live in California, in a suburb in the SF Bay area. And I see kids walking to and from school all the time. BY THEMSELVES! Now it’s not a perfect state, far far from it. We have a CPS that is shockingly authoritarian. But what we don’t have are all these karens calling the cops every time they see an unaccompanied child. Okay, maybe down in Los Angeles they do, but not here. Not where I live now and not where I grew up. What the fuck is wrong with Georgia?
In San Francisco, the reason you see kids walking by themselves is because of the restraining orders.
Adults in San Francisco can’t keep their hands off children and are legally enjoined from coming within a thousand yards of a child.
This is a bit like the PM of Australia’s own-goal thinking he’s one-upped Ted Cruz by saying he’s locked the country down despite having less than 1:10th the cases of COVID.
I’m not going to look up CA’s CPS caseload per capita or spending per capita to see whether they confirm or refute Brandybuck’s retarded, contrived anecdote because, per Occam’s Razor, you don’t actually need data to refute a retarded, contrived anecdote/ A simpler, more plausible explanation is sufficient.
“People need to learn to mind their own damn business.”
I cannot say this enough.
At 4, I was bored to tears, left alone all day while my parents worked in the small farming town of Woodland, CA, 1947. I was “ordered” by mother not to answer the door or even let anyone see me. I was asked, “Do hear me?” I replied, “Yes.” I wanted out, badly. I needed stimulus, input. I wanted to learn how to read but I was told I was too young and had to wait until I was 5. So, I waited for them to leave, and I went exploring. I had told my mother I heard her, NOT that I would obey. I found bottles that I knew had value, could be redeemed. I carried them to the drive-thru dairy, cashed in, bought ice cream, soda, everyday. Finally, after months, a relative saw me in a ditch along the main road, putting bottles in my red wagon. I was busted, wagon taken. I started first grade to find they wouldn’t teach reading, writing. I left, hiding out in a treehouse all day, looking at comics, anything with pictures. I was better off alone.
The employees of that store are not your personal babysitters, and they don’t want the liability of having your kid on their property. Watch your own kid! I’d have called the cops too. The park one isn’t as needed-that woman wasn’t personally liable for injuries happening there, but these free range parents need to understand that nobody else likes your kid or wants them around.