Abortion Fallout

Plus: Illegal homes in California, Erdogan's party does poorly in local elections, and more...

Texas woman charged with murder: Near the border, a Texas woman, Lizelle Gonzalez, faced a murder charge (and two nights in jail) for self-inducing an abortion in 2022. The charges were dropped. Now Gonzalez is suing the prosecutors in federal court, seeking $1 million in damages due to the harm she suffered from both the initial arrest and the media coverage of the matter.

"Under the abortion restrictions in Texas and other states, women who seek abortion are exempt from criminal charges," reports the Associated Press. The State Bar of Texas already disciplined the Starr County district attorney, Gocha Ramirez, who brought the charges in 2022, but "the fallout from Defendants' illegal and unconstitutional actions has forever changed the Plaintiff's life," argues the suit.

IVF restrictions? Conservative groups, including the Heritage Foundation, are reportedly not advocating an in vitro fertilization ban "but want new restrictions that would significantly curtail access to the procedure, such as imposing more regulations on fertility clinics, limiting the number of embryos that can be created or transferred to the uterus at one time, and banning pre-implantation genetic testing, which they argue allows parents to discriminate against their embryos on the basis of sex, disabilities like Down Syndrome or other factors."

Politico describes this as "re-run[ning] the Roe playbook" but notes that "IVF is broadly popular, according to public polling, in a way abortion never was."

It's the Roman Catholic church that has historically taken a strong anti-IVF stance—so not exactly staunch GOP voters per se, or particularly large in number and political power in the United States. Evangelicals tend to be less concerned about IVF. Among pro-lifers, roughly 80 percent support IVF (higher if you look at evangelical pro-lifers on their own). Polling in the wake of the Alabama Supreme Court's decision to extend greater legal protections to frozen embryos found that 86 percent of respondents were in favor of keeping IVF legal.

Between the Alabama Supreme Court decision and high-profile incidents like the Gonzalez case—plus the fact that abortion protections keep getting enshrined in law when they're put to a vote (remember Kansas? Ohio? Michigan?)—it's not clear that pro-lifers have a great plan to create a post-Dobbs framework that's broadly acceptable to voters.

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Scenes from New York: A group of activists thought Easter Vigil Mass would be a good time to make their "free Palestine" plea and display their banner in front of the St. Patrick's Cathedral altar in Midtown.

"At least some of the protesters were with Extinction Rebellion NYC's Palestinian Solidarity group and carried a flag with an olive tree and the words 'SILENCE = DEATH' written across it," reports The New York Post.

Extinction Rebellion is the group that carries out climate-related stunts at major art museums and blocks traffic frequently.

One of the activists "was arrested in September after disrupting the U.S. Open women's semifinal with activists who used glue to prevent security from ejecting them from Arthur Ashe Stadium after they held up a sign decrying fossil fuels," reports The New York Post. "Their stunt stalled the match for nearly 50 minutes."

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QUICK HITS

• California finally gets down with building more homes:

Caltrain deputy director built himself an apartment (with kitchen & shower) inside the Burlingame train station with $42k of public funds (each invoice <$3k), and it took 3 years for it to be discovered.

I demand a short documentary about this! I haven't seen footage anywhere https://t.co/HpI0qkjr6p

— Sheel Mohnot (@pitdesi) March 29, 2024

• Turkey holds municipal elections:

A political earthquake is under way in Turkey. With 54% counted in local elections, Erdoğan's party AKP is going down to national defeat for the first time ever. If results hold, his legitimacy will suffer. The future of AKP will be in doubt. (CHP: secular center-left) pic.twitter.com/YWkF47RaZD

— Timur Kuran (@timurkuran) March 31, 2024

• "New York regulators shut down a marijuana processor after she criticized the state's lax enforcement," reports Reason's C.J. Ciaramella.
• "One in 4.4 couples in Japan has undergone tests or treatment for infertility, and the number of babies resulting from assisted reproductive technologies such as in vitro fertilization stood at one in 11.6 in 2021," reports Bloomberg. 
• The Free Press's Rupa Subramanya investigates the growing movement of people who are choosing physician-assisted suicide due to mental health issues, not terminal illness.
• "China's manufacturing activity expanded in March for the first time since September, a further sign that the world's second-largest economy is stabilizing," reports Bloomberg. 
• The New Yorker isn't sending their best fact-checkers:

IQ is 60-80% heritable. Among scientists who study intelligence, this is a completely unremarkable and uncontroversial finding. https://t.co/JoaFtH5p5V

— Rob Henderson (@robkhenderson) March 29, 2024

Comments

[Fist of Etiquette]

Abortion Fallout

Is that a new method I'm unaware of.

[Chaino]

Isn’t that the band that opens for The Menstrual Cramps?

https://themenstrualcramps.bandcamp.com/music

[mad.casual]

It's unfortunate that Abortion Fallout didn't come along when Fallout Boy was still in their first trimester.

[Medulla Oblongata]

I'll wait for Abortion Fallout 3.

[Don't look at me!]

Sequels are never as good.

[Dillinger]

we did Star Trek II last week ...

[Don't look at me!]

Did you get consent?

[Dillinger]

it threw itself at me.

[Anomalous]

I've heard the expression "loose woman" but this is ridiculous.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

That's why free tampons are a human right!

[Social Justice is neither]

New Bethesda game.

[Fist of Etiquette]

A group of activists thought Easter Vigil Mass would be a good time to make their "free Palestine" plea and display their banner in front of the St. Patrick's Cathedral altar in Midtown.

If there were any true Irish Catholics there it should have ended badly for the protestors out behind the rectory.

[Rev Arthur L kuckland]

Wrong place

[Mother's Lament]

Nothing like protesting Catholics when you're hating on the Jews. Like with Extinction Rebellion stunts the real point is to make the little people's lives miserable.

[Idaho-Bob]

the real point is to make the little people’s lives miserable.

This is correct and needs reciprocation. Enough of this shit.

[HorseConch]

How do you make such a miserable group miserable without pummeling them? The protestors are such a pathetic bunch that love wallowoing in misery it's hard to see anything stopping them other than arrests and beatdowns.

[Idaho-Bob]

How do you make such a miserable group miserable without pummeling them?

This is the way.

[Sometimes a Great Notion]

Incorrect. They would be the little people; how else would describe people whose entire existence revolves around annoying produtive people and latching onto (literally) the works of great people because they themselves can't inspire.

[Commenter_XY]

Those little Hamas-loving shitheads can cry and caterwaul all they want. Cry harder. Hamas members will be just as dead. The only problem I see is that Israel needs to kill many more Hamas members much faster.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

I keep saying that all the US alphabet progressives blindly supporting Hamas need to move to Gaza, and see what their heroes think of them.

ps. They probably should decline any invitations to up on a roof.

[Commenter_XY]

Send the Trannies for Hamas first. Film their arrival and welcome. 🙂

[HorseConch]

I'm sure they would love to celebrate Tranny Visibility Day in Gaza.

[soldiermedic76]

The LGBTQ+ groups for Palestine is as stupid as Jews for Hitler.

[soldiermedic76]

And as well informed as these same groups who wear Che T-shirts.

[soldiermedic76]

American Christians (for the vast majority) we don't believe in gay marriage and that homosexuality is a sin. Middle East Muslims (and a large majority of Muslims outside the Middle East) you are gay, we kill you or at the least imprison you. Gays if you're more afraid of American Christians while supporting Middle Eastern Muslims, believing you have solidarity with the latter, here's your sign.

[Mother's Lament]

Because everyone has to be insane nowadays. It's the whole point of intersectionality and deconstructionism.

[Jefferson Paul]

Now, now. Some middle eastern countries don't do that (just kill you for being gay, like defenestration or pushing you off a roof). The enlightened Islamic Republic of Iran tends to force gay men to surgically transition to being a "straight" woman. Hence, they have no gay men in Iran.

[soldiermedic76]

Yeah, I should have included that caveat.

[Minadin]

These guys were actually extinction rebellion's anti-semite wing.

[Fist of Etiquette]

...activists who used glue to prevent security from ejecting them from Arthur Ashe Stadium after they held up a sign decrying fossil fuels," reports The New York Post.

Plant-based adhesives.

[Rev Arthur L kuckland]

The glue May keep their hand stuck to a wall, but a Sawzall will be really quick at detaching the hand from the wrist

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

A machete chop is quicker.

[Minadin]

Don't fix what isn't broken.

[soldiermedic76]

A battle-ax even quicker and more efficient.

[BigT]

No need for that, simply pull their hand until it is free. It will likely lose a lot of skin and hurt like the devil.

[Yuno Hoo]

Probably.

Two activists from Scientist Rebellion and Extinction Rebellion Spain sprayed the yacht moored in Barcelona to “denounce billionaires’ enormous impact on the #climatecrisis,” the organizations said online. Video shows the activists unleashing a stream of bright red paint at the massive luxury ship before unraveling a banner saying, “Billionaires should not exist.” The eco-warriors made a point of noting that the paint was biodegradable. Emphasis added.

[Don't look at me!]

Wonder how the workers at the luxury ship builder feel about billionaires.

[Idaho-Bob]

Everything is biodegradable on a long enough timeline.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

Two activists from Scientist Rebellion and Extinction Rebellion Spain sprayed the yacht moored in Barcelona to “denounce billionaires’ enormous impact on the #climatecrisis,”,/i>

Progressive-inhabited cities are the biggest pollution sinks on the planet. Seems the best solution is to turn them into nature preserves for 1,000 years to really heal Mother Gaia.

[BYODB]

This is something that, apparently, is a bridge too far for those ‘climate warriors’ since that would necessitate living with those rural people who have things like guns and children.

Urban heat islands have been a known thing for almost 100 years at this point, so if they are really worried about the environment heating up you’d think busting cities would at least be on their agenda yet somehow it is not.

Almost as if they understand that their only allies are in major cities, and those allies would rather die than live in rural Alabama.

[Minadin]

"those allies would rather die than live in rural Alabama"

Their terms are acceptable.

[Square = Circle]

if they are really worried about the environment heating up you’d think busting cities would at least be on their agenda yet somehow it is no

The current mythology is that the most eco-correct thing to do is live as densely as possible, preferably in ungentrified neighborhoods with lots of great ethnic food.

This is because the One Problem is Climate Change, and the One Cause of the One Problem is peasant mobility, so therefore very dense cities without cars are the One Solution.

[BYODB]

Indeed, which is made all the more hilarious by those places that already exist on Earth that meet that metric (say, India) are coincidentally one of the biggest producers of actual, measurable, and provable pollution on the planet.

[Square = Circle]

I'm old enough to remember when environmentalists recognized high density as a bad thing. Since it's kind of obvious.

[soldiermedic76]

Well, if they keep up their war on agriculture (see Spiked's article on the EUs war on farmers) those cities will become unlivable really quick. See the rural urban divide prior to the industrial revolution, or even well into the first half of the 20th century. Fact is, you reduce farming efficiency and farmed land, a whole lot of people are going to starve to death (levels worse than the repeated great famines of the Little Ice Age. Famine and related unrest during the worst of the Little Ice Age, during the 17th century,saw population declines of around 33% globally. That was with about 90% of European and Asian population directly involved in agriculture (and far more land devoted to agriculture in those continents). Today, in the US, about 5% of the population is directly or indirectly involved in agriculture, and we have about fifty percent of land devoted to agriculture that we did in 1900, but produce far more food. You start banning internal combustion engines and nitrogen based fertilizers and pesticides (like the EU is trying to do, while also trying to force a third of farmers out of business and culling the majority of livestock) we're talking apocalyptic levels of devastation. And that isn't hyperbole. We don't have enough arable land to grow even subsistence level food, let alone surplus, using pre-green revolution farming practices, especially pre-internal combustion engines farming methods. The urban areas will simply cease to exist if these morons get their way.

[soldiermedic76]

Just as a reference, organic farming produces 30-70% less crops per acre as conventional farming.

[Mother's Lament]

Advancements in farming over the last 60 years has created a drastic shrinkage of land use allowing for substantial rewilding. These idiots are going to upend all that.

[soldiermedic76]

Yes. And it isn't like they haven't been told this, they just refuse to believe it. Pretty ironic considering they claim to be the ones following 'the science™'.

[BigT]

Normal Borlaug is a more important scientist than Albert Einstein.

[soldiermedic76]

If we're measuring human welfare, yes he was.

[soldiermedic76]

Also, if we're measuring on preserving and or returning land to a more natural state, he was also. Producing far more on far less land has allowed nature to reclaim (in the west and large portions of industrialized Asia) large swaths of land.

[soldiermedic76]

The regions that are still cutting and burning forests to create agricultural lands tend to be the areas that practice agriculture most similar to what the so called environmentalists would have us do.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

Well, if they keep up their war on agriculture (see Spiked’s article on the EUs war on farmers) those cities will become unlivable really quick.

The technocrats seem to believe they can just import food from Africa and Latin America, but that might be hard to do if they keep importing their populations to Europe and the FVEY countries, too.

[soldiermedic76]

Plus, without modern agriculture, even those countries won't produce enough surplus to feed the world. Actually, the soils in the tropics tend to be less nutritious than the soils in temperate areas. The Eurasian and North American Steppes are both better suited to agriculture than tropical Africa or Latin America, despite getting far less rain generally.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Can we hang them with hemp rope?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Caltrain deputy director built himself an apartment (with kitchen & shower) inside the Burlingame train station with $42k of public funds...

We need these kinds of eats-at-his-desk types in government.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Hey, you got that wrong. If this guy can build an apartment in California for $42k, we should put him in charge of all state-funded housing. Last I heard, the current management was spending $100k for each hobo tent.

[Eeyore]

I thought the government funded tents came in at closer to 250k. Apartments were around 1.5m.

[BYODB]

They must be using gear from REI.

/sarc

[EISTAU Gree-Vance]

Give em some credit. They did get 20% off for sitting through The North Face racial lecturing.

[Square = Circle]

If this guy can build an apartment in California for $42k, we should put him in charge of all state-funded housing.

This was my thought exactly. I'm in public works in California, and I'm completely gobsmacked that this guy built anything for $42k, let alone a functional apartment.

He should be given an award and put in charge of the agency.

[markm23]

I figure that cost did not include the land, foundation, roof, load bearing and exterior walls, heating/air conditioning system, or utility entrance. It was just the cost of repurposing a few existing rooms in an existing building. I hope it includes new bathroom fixtures and plumbing - that is, that he didn't have them wall off a previously public bathroom and make it private - but given the level of arrogant dishonesty already on display, I wouldn't count on it.

[Ra's al Gore]

Subscribe here to preserve your ability to comment.

Fuck. No.

[TheReEncogitationer]

Just curious. When are they supposed to paywall the Comments?

I'm getting real tired of saying good-byes to people I like (such as yourself) and burning bridges with our resident Totalitarians and assholes!

[Idaho-Bob]

It's a trick to gather subscription volunteers.

[TheReEncogitationer]

Well, they're playing with my lack of affection, which really pisses me off.

They need to shit or get off the pot!...Or get on the pot and shit!...Or get on the pot and on the shit!....Or get off of them both, hold everything in, and explode!...Aw, ya'll know what I mean!
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[Vernon Depner]

Or shit on the sidewalk.

[Don't look at me!]

Nothing says “free speech” like having to pay for it.

[TheReEncogitationer]

Good and hard, as H.L. Mencken put it about Democracy.
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😉

[Fist of Etiquette]

A political earthquake is under way in Turkey.

Sounds like a bloodbath.

[Don't look at me!]

YOU CAN’T SAY THAT!

[Medulla Oblongata]

Likely to bring out the vermin, too.

[soldiermedic76]

Is this another far right group taking control like all here in the US and most of Europe (or at least what the elites are calling far right)?

[soldiermedic76]

Which is kind of funny since the AKP is pretty close to a full on religious fascist party.

There's a lot of what if, time traveling sci-fi books, but would any of those what ifs be more useful than giving the Byzantine's in the Seventh or even 8th century a battalion of modern rangers with full logistical support (for at least a year)?

[Fist of Etiquette]

New York regulators shut down a marijuana processor after she criticized the state's lax enforcement...

Coincidence? It could have been for entirely different bs reasons.

[A Cynical Asshole]

"Show us the man marijuana processor and we'll show you the crime."

[Fist of Etiquette]

One in 4.4 couples in Japan has undergone tests or treatment for infertility...

And then Mothra appeared.

[TheReEncogitationer]

Or Gamara. He's loved by all the children, even when he kills tens of thousands in a single encounter with a city.
🙂
😉

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

You know who else didn't like cities and killed thousands of people?

[Anomalous]

Godzilla?

[Commenter_XY]

Genghis Khan?

[TheReEncogitationer]

Attila The Hun?
https://youtu.be/XYKW7UTmn1g?si=FDlvRuVnw8RLbGUy
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😉
Or perhaps A.T. Hun for short? Or is it really A.T. Great?
https://youtu.be/hsOJzieQogU?si=WuopSN19qLL_WOEY
🙂
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[Its_Not_Inevitable]

FDR/Truman?

[Vernon Depner]

John Denver?

[JesseAz]

Has anyone told them you can't get pregnant through bukake?

[TheReEncogitationer]

Depends on to whom it is aimed, where on the person it is aimed, and where it dribbles.
🙂
😉
But even then, of course, paternity is iffy to establish, so you're right that bukkake would make it equally hard to establish who is infertile.

You know what else involves a big circle-jerk and three 'K's?
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😉

[BigT]

Reason staff meeting?

[TheReEncogitationer]

Where are the three 'K's in a Reason Staff meeting? I know Katherine has a 'K', but where are the other two?

[Fist of Etiquette]

...the growing movement of people who are choosing physician-assisted suicide due to mental health issues, not terminal illness.

Easing the strain on The System.

[Don't look at me!]

I think those people are crazy for doing that.

[mad.casual]

And not the good kind of crazy that starts up a YouTube channel and then takes up parkour or base jumping or goes out West to take close-up selfies with bison.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

What about the kind of crazy that eats Tide pods?

[Vernon Depner]

Catch-22

[Michael Ejercito]

How many of them are pedophiles and ephebophiles?

[Fist of Etiquette]

China's manufacturing activity expanded in March for the first time since September...

Says who.

[rbike]

They can make them 155mm shells for us then. A smart Senator would get this done.

[Its_Not_Inevitable]

Huh?

[Fist of Etiquette]

China's National Bureau of Statistics.

[Fist of Etiquette]

IQ is 60-80% heritable. Among scientists who study intelligence, this is a completely unremarkable and uncontroversial finding.

ARE THEY MEASURING SKULLS NEXT?

[Mother's Lament]

More the eighty than the sixty, but neurons are remarkably pliable, and environment and training can play a huge part in that final twenty percent.
It doesn't work exactly like this, but the difference between an IQ of 90 and one of 110 is enormous.

Also intellect isn't the be all, end all. A slightly dumb natural athlete with excellent motor skills, eyesight, health and cancer resistance is a superior specimen to a sickly, shortsighted, neurotic wreck with an IQ of 150.

[A Cynical Asshole]

... sickly, shortsighted, neurotic wreck with an IQ of 150.

Describes a lot of mainstream "journalists." Except the IQ of 150 part. I'd be shocked if any of them are higher 110.

[Don't look at me!]

90

[A Cynical Asshole]

I was going to say 90, but I'll give a few of them, like good Liz here, Matt Taibbi, and a few others the benefit of the doubt and assume they're slightly above average.

[Zeb]

Oh, I'm sure there are a fair number of high IQ journalists. And even more midwits and idiots. But it's important to remember that very smart people can be willfully ignorant and catastrophically wrong as much as anyone.

[Medulla Oblongata]

I recall reading somewhere that journalism is below education when ranked by SAT/ACT, GPA, and GRE for advanced degrees.

[ducksalad]

What's with the blatant visionism?

Ben Franklin wore glasses.

[mad.casual]

You’re talking about a readership with a considerable portion who consider “What is a woman?” to be a complex epidemiological issue. We’re talking about people with the statistical acumen to just accept the statement “100% safe and effective, with no downsides.” at face value.

If you pointed out that even 10% heritability of intellect and race each means some intellect is racially heritable, they would insist that you correct it so that intellect and race are both 0% heritable.

[soldiermedic76]

It's really about genotype vs phenotype. Journalists love to debate nature vs nurture, but any biologists will tell you this is a bullshit debate. It's both. Genotype is what you inherit but it's not necessarily what is expressed. What is expressed is phenotype which is a combination of genotype plus environment plus randomness. So something that is 60% heritable means forty percent is a combination of environment and random factors. So, say you have the offspring of two genius level parents (who also are the product of genius level parents) but feed their offspring less than adequate diet and deny them mental stimuli, they won't be geniuses themselves because the forty percent that is environment (randomness is generally not factored into it because it is basically unquantifiable) means they will not develop to their full genetic potential. Or give them the wrong types of nutrition, such as veganism/vegatarianism, especially in utero, will not meet their full genetic potential.

As a rule herbivores have much lower brain development and intelligence than omnivores and carnivores. Developing and maintaining large, complex brains requires nutrient densities that can only be achieved by intake of meat. Interesting enough, we've seen chimpanzees increase their meat intake over the past century of study, in the wild, we've also seen documented signs of growing intelligence. Anthropologists theorize that humans intelligence increased as we increased our intake of meat. Rather we first evolved larger, complex brains which required more nutrients or started eating more nutrients dense food which allowed the evolution of larger, more complex brains is an open debate, though most favor the latter as opposed to the former. Largely this is because as we increased meat intake, those with larger more complex brains would be able to take advantage and have an evolutionary advantage but if we developed larger more complex brains before we were taking advantage of more nutrient dense food there is less of an evolutionary advantage.

[soldiermedic76]

Additionally, most people’s, especially journalists, understanding of genetics is Mendelian, with the idea that traits are single allele with a dominant and a recessive. Most traits, however, are non-mendelian, being multi-allele traits (even the pea traits Mendel studied were actually multi-allele traits) and not all heritable follows a dominant recessive path, their are many co-dominant and partially dominate traits. Plus sex linked traits, plus SNPs etc and it makes heritability far more complex than what most people understand. For example, I have blonde hair and blues blue eyes, my wife has brown eyes and is brunette (and both her parents brown eyes and brunettes). If we assume single allele, Mendelian inheritance, our kids should be brunettes with brown eyes, however, all three are as blond as me (towheads) with hazel eyes, because contrary to popular myth neither eye color or hair color are single allele traits, plus at least one of her parents passed on the recessive hair alleles (also blood type, my wife is phenotypical B+ and I am phenotypical A+ but my mom is O+ which means my genotype is actually AO+, and my wife must also be BO+ genotype, because our oldest son happens to be O+ and that just ABO without getting into the RH factor genotypes).

[BigT]

Wouldn't the people with larger, more complex brains also be better at finding and killing animals to eat? It seems like it could be a virtuously cyclic process.

[soldiermedic76]

It really was according to the fossil record.

[Ra's al Gore]

The last sentence is what of course makes the whole quote A-OK.

https://climatesight.org/2009/04/12/the-schneider-quote/

On the one hand, as scientists we are ethically bound to the scientific method, in effect promising to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but – which means that we must include all doubts, the caveats, the ifs, ands and buts. On the other hand, we are not just scientists but human beings as well. And like most people we’d like to see the world a better place, which in this context translates into our working to reduce the risk of potentially disastrous climate change. To do that we need to get some broad based support, to capture the public’s imagination. That, of course, means getting loads of media coverage. So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we might have. This “double ethical bind” we frequently find ourselves in cannot be solved by any formula. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest. I hope that means being both.

[Don't look at me!]

Will be begging for amnesty soon.

[Randy Sax]

People who think like this are fucking morons. "So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we might have." When people look into what you say and see it's bullshit, you lose all credibility and put more people in the "climate change is a hoax" box. Barbera Streisand effect. Messages like these deter people from you cause more than attract.

[BYODB]

Yeah, it's one reason I don't believe a damn word they say.

Another reason is that they are pretty open about their belief that capitalism needs to die by any means necessary, and when you couple that with their open statements about lying in regards to so-called 'climate change' it's enough to wonder if all this nonsense is simply confirming their own preconceptions that capitalism simply must be evil and they'll hunt around until they find some data they can twist into supporting that.

Every human has their own biases and twist facts to support those bias, scientists are no different.

[Medulla Oblongata]

(OTTMAR EDENHOFER, UN IPCC OFFICIAL): "Basically it’s a big mistake to discuss climate policy separately from the major themes of globalization. The climate summit in Cancun at the end of the month is not a climate conference, but one of the largest economic conferences since the Second World War... First of all, developed countries have basically expropriated the atmosphere of the world community. But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiastic about this. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole.

Rep. Ocasio-Cortez’s chief of staff, Saikat Chakrabarti, made the revealing admission in a meeting with Democratic Washington Gov. Jay Inslee’s climate director in May. A Washington Post reporter accompanied Chakrabarti to the meeting for a magazine profile published Wednesday: “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal, is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all...Do you guys think of it as a climate thing? Because we really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing,” he added.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

Do you guys think of it as a climate thing? Because we really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing,” he added.

I read some critique of her in an article (Daily Fail, maybe?) that talked about how she came into office expecting to single-handedly turn the entire American economy into a communist state and that everyone would thank her for it.

[Square = Circle]

When people look into what you say and see it’s bullshit, you lose all credibility and put more people in the “climate change is a hoax” box.

^

Although at this point the science is increasingly suggesting that climate change is a bit of a nothing-burger, and so now we move into the phase of "refusing to admit we've been wrong to sow all this panic since there's now lots and lots and lots of money and power involved."

[soldiermedic76]

The geological record tends to show warmer climates are more stable and predictable, while cooler climates bring far more disruptions. The Little Ice Age demonstrates how a small amount of cooling caused massive repurcussions and disruptions. It’s estimated a third of the Earth’s population died off in the coldest century of the Little Ice Age, the 17th century. It’s estimated that around fifty percent of the population of Eurasia (and North Africa) died off in the first century of the Little Ice Age, the 14th century (we know less for Africa, the Americas and Australia, but several civilizations and cultures in the Americas started disappearing during the 14th and 15th century, Pre Columbus, per the archeological records.

[BigT]

Anthropogenic global warming (use the proper term) is not a hoax, it is a failed hypothesis since it does not adequately explain changes in the climate. And when you consider the catastrophic predictions made by those who advocate AGW, and the ridiculous solutions they propose, it is much, much worse than the terrible stuff espoused by the vaccine bullies. We are literally spending billion$ to make life worse for people and the planet less hospitable.

[markm23]

Where it becomes a hoax is when they ignore or even lie about failed predictions and pretend their failed hypothesis is Settled Science.

[Moonrocks]

See this? This is why our institutions have lost all credibility.

[Rev Arthur L kuckland]

No you don't have to make stuff up in fact that "scientists" should loose all credentials ND any influence he has had should be burned

[ducksalad]

1. There’s no such thing as a “noble lie” and you shouldn’t be doing it.

2. But, if you decide to do it anyway, it’s especially idiotic to publicly say that’s what you’re doing.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

They aren't suffering any repercussions for being so brazen about their dishonesty. Shit, they're actually being rewarded for it with money and social status.

At this point, I'm honestly hoping AI goes full Skynet.

[BigT]

No such thing as a noble lie?

OK, YOU tell your wife she is at least 30 lbs overweight.

[mad.casual]

You know who else was stuck in a "double ethical bind" between doing what they knew was morally good and what was technically best for the human race?

[Michael Ejercito]

St. Peter?

[soldiermedic76]

Just about every government ever.

[Medulla Oblongata]

Monika Kopacz, atmospheric scientist: "It is no secret that a lot of climate-change research is subject to opinion, that climate models sometimes disagree even on the signs of the future changes (e.g. drier vs. wetter future climate). The problem is, only sensational exaggeration makes the kind of story that will get politicians’ — and readers’ — attention. So, yes, climate scientists might exaggerate, but in today’s world, this is the only way to assure any political action and thus more federal financing to reduce the scientific uncertainty."

Researcher Robert Phalen's 2010 testimony to the California Air Resources Board: "It benefits us personally to have the public be afraid, even if these risks are trivial."

Former U.S. Senator Timothy Wirth (D-CO), then representing the Clinton-Gore administration as U.S undersecretary of state for global issues, addressing the same Rio Climate Summit audience, agreed: “We have got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic policy and environmental policy.”

Christine Stewart, former Canadian Environment Minister: “No matter if the science is all phoney, there are collateral environmental benefits.... climate change [provides] the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world.”

[soldiermedic76]

I've noticed in the biology fields especially (my area of expertise) a certain laziness creeping into the science. Can't explain a phenomena, claim it could be climate change stress without identifying what the mechanism of action that would explain this.

[Ra's al Gore]

Illegal Chinese migrant arrested after breaching Marine base in California and refusing to leave: Border agents investigating amid fears Beijing spies are trying to infiltrate U.S. military facilities
An illegal Chinese migrant was arrested in California after sneaking onto a military base and refusing to leave
This most recent breach comes as the U.S. is increasingly dealing with sensitive military bases being infiltrated by the Chinese
There have been more than 100 instances in which U.S. military bases were infiltrated by Chinese nationals in recent years
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13253311/chinese-migrant-arrested-marine-base-california-border-agents-beijing-spies.html

[Don't look at me!]

ThErE are No IlLeGaL pEoPlE!

[Rev Arthur L kuckland]

Execution on sight

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

I mean, if he's not supposed to be in the country and infiltrating a military base, why waste time with the legal niceties? Put a bullet in his head as a spy and be done with it.

[Michael Ejercito]

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?hl=false&edition=prelim&req=granuleid%3AUSC-prelim-title10-section903&num=0&saved=%7CZ3JhbnVsZWlkOlVTQy1wcmVsaW0tdGl0bGUxMC1zZWN0aW9uOTAzYQ%3D%3D%7C%7C%7C0%7Cfalse%7Cprelim

Any person who in time of war is found lurking as a spy or acting as a spy in or about any place, vessel, or aircraft, within the control or jurisdiction of any of the armed forces, or in or about any shipyard, any manufacturing or industrial plant, or any other place or institution engaged in work in aid of the prosecution of the war by the United States, or elsewhere, shall be tried by a general court-martial or by a military commission and on conviction shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial or a military commission may direct. This section does not apply to a military commission established under chapter 47A of this title.

[BigT]

We need to remove the "in time of war" part.

[Its_Not_Inevitable]

Though we might expect a "debriefing" first.

[Ra's al Gore]

‘I’m 28. And I’m Scheduled to Die in May.’
https://www.thefp.com/p/im-28-and-im-scheduled-to-die

Ter Beek, who lives in a little Dutch town near the German border, once had ambitions to become a psychiatrist, but she was never able to muster the will to finish school or start a career. She said she was hobbled by her depression and autism and borderline personality disorder. Now she was tired of living—despite, she said, being in love with her boyfriend, a 40-year-old IT programmer, and living in a nice house with their two cats.

She recalled her psychiatrist telling her that they had tried everything, that “there’s nothing more we can do for you. It’s never gonna get any better.”

At that point, she said, she decided to die. “I was always very clear that if it doesn’t get better, I can’t do this anymore.”...

Typically, when we think of people who are considering assisted suicide, we think of people facing terminal illness. But this new group is suffering from other syndromes—depression or anxiety exacerbated, they say, by economic uncertainty, the climate, social media, and a seemingly limitless array of fears and disappointments.

“I’m seeing euthanasia as some sort of acceptable option brought to the table by physicians, by psychiatrists, when previously it was the ultimate last resort,” Stef Groenewoud, a healthcare ethicist at Theological University Kampen, in the Netherlands, told me. “I see the phenomenon especially in people with psychiatric diseases, and especially young people with psychiatric disorders, where the healthcare professional seems to give up on them more easily than before.”

Theo Boer, a healthcare ethics professor at Protestant Theological University in Groningen, served for a decade on a euthanasia review board in the Netherlands. “I entered the review committee in 2005, and I was there until 2014,” Boer told me. “In those years, I saw the Dutch euthanasia practice evolve from death being a last resort to death being a default option.” He ultimately resigned.

[Ra's al Gore]

We can’t afford a taboo on assisted dying
The argument against it is that pressure will grow on the terminally ill to hasten their own deaths – that’s not a bad thing
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/we-cant-afford-a-taboo-on-assisted-dying-n6p8bfg9k

[Don't look at me!]

Guess Sarah Palin was right after all.

[Moonrocks]

This kind of thing used to be a dystopian backdrop.

[Rev Arthur L kuckland]

Yay logans run

[A Cynical Asshole]

First it will be "Eat ze bugs," eventually if will be "line up for your daily Soylent Green rations."

[Longtobefree]

“line up for your daily Soylent Green rations.”

To receive them, or become them?

[A Cynical Asshole]

At first to receive them, then once you're no longer of any use to The State, to become them. So both.

[soldiermedic76]

This is how they'll fix social security. Mandatory euthanasia at 65.

[Mother's Lament]

She recalled her psychiatrist telling her that they had tried everything, that “there’s nothing more we can do for you. It’s never gonna get any better.

GET A BETTER PSYCHIATRIST.

Then try Psilocybin or LSD, join a religion, get a better boyfriend, and a dozen other things before killing yourself.

[Don't look at me!]

Or just realize that sometimes, life can be tough.

[Zeb]

It's a hell of a lot more than that for people with legit mental illness. ML has a good point. Try literally anything else before offing yourself.
And isn't one of the primary jobs of a psychiatrist supposed to be to prevent suicide?

[Medulla Oblongata]

Not when they are govt employees with a quota to fill.

[mad.casual]

once had ambitions to become a psychiatrist

"(not) physician (don't) heal thyself"

Inject Ter with a sedative. Ship Ter off to the Donbask, let Ter wake up with a loaded rifle and full kit.

[JesseAz]

She sounds extremely lazy and uses depression to justify it. Not realizing accomplishing something could help.

[soldiermedic76]

This is what giving participation trophies results in.

[n00bdragon]

Whatever happened to "First, do no harm"?

[Square = Circle]

Option 1) you assist someone in incurable pain who wants to die to end their suffering.

Option 2) you do everything in your power to prevent someone in incurable pain who wants to die from ending their suffering.

Which one counts as "doing no harm?"

[Zeb]

That's a difficult question when it comes to mental health

[Square = Circle]

Indeed.

[mad.casual]

I'm pretty sure encouraging people to off themselves, lying to them about the certainty that it doesn't get any better, especially (as ML indicates) given the likely narrow scope of options employed, doesn't fall under option 1 or option 2.

[Mickey Rat]

When you establish as a medical ethic that killing the patient can be the least harmful option, the less compunction there is against doing te patient the ultimate harm.

[mad.casual]

Killing people we have every reason to believe were directly responsible for some of the most heinous crimes a human can commit would leave a black mark on the soul of society, especially the couple dozen people systematically involved in their judgement, but when it comes to killing people who haven't actually done anything wrong, leaving it to the few or even sole medical "experts" who've thrown up their hands and said "Well, *I'm* out of ideas!" is the obvious righteous path.

Few or even sole medical "experts" who struggle with the question "What is a woman?", remodel their home to add front doors because, supposedly, a SCOTUS nominee assaulted them 3+ decades ago, and sat passive while the world mass hysteria-ed itself into idiocy over COVID-phobia.

[Jerry B.]

"Turkey holds municipal elections"

Wait for the late mail-in ballots to be counted.

[Ra's al Gore]

https://x.com/lecternleader/status/1774572441324404933?s=20

This is my first prosecutor after J6. He's been charged and will be spending a significant amount of time in jail when he is convicted. What is frustrating is his lack of restrictions compared to what he thought I needed because I was a "threat" to my community for smiling and waving.

I received an ankle monitor, nightly curfew, travel restrictions, and I was forced to submit to drug tests for a non-violent non drug related crimes.

He gets a pass.

There are no journalists swarming his home, no death threats in his mailbox, and he doesn't have to live in fear that someone will harm his family.

Welcome to second-class citizenship. There is a club and you aren't in it.

[Mother's Lament]

Looks like he started doing literally what the other J6 prosecutors were doing metaphorically.

You'd have to be a psychopath like that to be a Soros prosecutor in the first place. They're not recruiting people with a sense of right or wrong.

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2]

GEORGIA VOTER FRAUD UPDATE!

Georgia GOP vice chairman, a vocal 2020 election denier, voted illegally 9 times
.
ATLANTA - Brian Pritchard, first vice chairman of the Georgia Republican Party, was found to have violated the state's election laws, a judge from the Office of State Administrative Hearings ruled this week.
.
Administrative Law Judge Lisa Boggs wrote in her Wednesday decision that Pritchard violated state election laws by voting while on probation for forgery and other felonies, and that his explanations were neither "credible or convincing."

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/georgia-gop-vice-chairman-brian-pritchard-voted-illegally-9-times-felony

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

You still haven't found the password to SPB1?

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2]

yeah it is "HastertCuckservative".

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

Wonderful. I look forward to seeing you return to posting from that account.

[Sevo]

turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

[Mother's Lament]

Not KKKiddiediddler1962?

[Don't look at me!]

No widespread fraud.

[Sevo]

turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

[DesigNate]

Nobody here said the fraud was exclusive to Democrats you moronic jizz rag.

[SRG2]

Contrast his punishment with that of Crystal Mason - who finally was acquitted on appeal recently: https://apnews.com/article/texas-voter-fraud-conviction-overturned-f6265c98b5a134388c229d3886e39410

But no wonder the GOP are convinced of abundant voter fraud - they're the ones committing it. Perhaps they think that as they're voting fraudulently, the Democrats must be doing it as well, and at a larger scale.

[Medulla Oblongata]

Then Dems would be screaming for audits. To deafening opposition to real audits by Dems provides the most obvious "where there's smoke there's fire" coverup warning sign..."Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain! The Great Oz has spoken!"

[Mother's Lament]

Shrike and Diet Shrike didn't really think this morning's clever narrative through.

[SRG2]

Got a link to all those cases where the GOP demonstrated election fraud in court?

[Medulla Oblongata]

"No widespread fraud."

[Jerry B.]

But there was no voter fraud. Cleanest election ever!!!

[SRG2]

Not enough to swing an election, as the lawsuits and audits showed.

But if you're locked in your evidence free bubble, it doesn't matter.

[Ra's al Gore]

Thank you, Joe Biden's Chinese paymasters.

https://x.com/JunkScience/status/1774796318021411028?s=20

"China launches an amphibious attack on Taiwan. The U.S. responds with a missile attack to sink Chinese ships. Within minutes, California is plunged into darkness, followed by New York and Washington. Electric trucks around America start crashing into other vehicles.

"This may seem far-fetched, but government climate policies are making it easier for the Chinese Communist Party to wage a multifront cyberattack."

[Longtobefree]

If you believe that, I got a bridge in Baltimore to sell you.

[Ra's al Gore]

https://x.com/HillelNeuer/status/1774580359339937881?s=20

With disgraced former UNRWA chief Pierre Krähenbühl now their new Director-General, as of today the International Red Cross is now officially as neutral as UNRWA is neutral.

[Mickey Rat]

I think that means he is not actually disgraced in any practical sense of the word.

[Ra's al Gore]

https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1774560861379866914?s=20

JUST IN: El Paso judge rules on Easter Sunday that illegals involved in the riot at the Southern Border where National Guard troops were assaulted, must be released from jail.

Insanity.

Magistrate Judge Humberto Acosta made the announcement on Sunday, blasting the El Paso District Attorney's Office for "not being ready" with detention hearings.

"It is the ruling of the court is that all the rioting participation cases will be released on their own recognizance," Acosta said.

[ducksalad]

Not all that outrageous if you look at the details.

1. Those being detained for illegal entry or other charges will not be released.
2. The charge is a Class B misdemeanor, the lowest level of jailable offense, one notch above a traffic ticket. It often gets personal recognizance anyway.
3. The DA's office said they weren't ready and the deadline for a bond hearing was coming up.

[Idaho-Bob]

Just ignore the judge's "rulling". Until we engage in the left's tactics, all is lost. Fuck a fair fight.

[mad.casual]

Yup. "Key's hangin' on the wall over there, Judge. Have at it."

[Ra's al Gore]

Tell me again how they're a net benefit.

We know they are tax drains. If they really were productive engineers, etc, the left would be complaining about the West's exploitive "brain drain" taking people the 3rd World needs.

Illegal Immigrants Given 7 Times More Taxpayer-Funded Benefits Than Military Families
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraharnold/2024/03/30/illegals-given-7-times-more-taxpayer-funded-assistance-than-suffering-military-families-n2637066

[Don't look at me!]

Food truck financing is hard!

[I, Woodchipper]

Get rid of income tax. Problem solved.

[Medulla Oblongata]

Get rid of the welfare state.

[I, Woodchipper]

Both!

[A Cynical Asshole]

Be careful what you wish for?

"New York regulators shut down a marijuana processor after she criticized the state's lax enforcement," reports Reason's C.J. Ciaramella.

[I, Woodchipper]

If you criticize The Party they will come after you no matter how loyal you have been up to then.

[A Cynical Asshole]

Dibs on the band name.

Abortion Fallout

Or is that some kind of euphemism for what happens when the left over placenta falls out at the Wall-Mart ~30 minutes after the procedure?

[Sevo]

"Caltrain deputy director built himself an apartment (with kitchen & shower) inside the Burlingame train station with $42k of public funds (each invoice <$3k), and it took 3 years for it to be discovered."

$42K? Bullshit. You can't build a back yard shed in the bay area for that kind of money.

[A Cynical Asshole]

If you skip all the paperwork, permits, and red tape you might be able to. I highly doubt this guy filled out all required forms and got all required inspections, etc. etc.

[Square = Circle]

Yeah - in all seriousness I imagine he paid cost for cheap materials and not-to-code construction, knowing it wouldn't be inspected, and saved on general conditions and other markups because he was using a contractor already engaged on a larger public works project that he was managing. Probably even agreed to let the contractor pad his change orders a bit in return for the discount.

[I, Woodchipper]

According to the lawsuit, Gonzalez was 19 weeks pregnant when she used misoprostol, one of two drugs used in medication abortions. Misoprostol is also used to treat stomach ulcers.

Dont wait til you're 5 months pregnant to have the abortion? Doesnt seem too much to ask.

[American Mongrel]

Spiked had an article pants shitting about someone doing this at 34 weeks and "even the conservatives" think the govt went too far penalizing the murderous birthing person.
I think the overton window will have shifted to the debate over toddlercide in 100 years.

[I, Woodchipper]

The New Yorker isn't sending their best fact-checkers:

They dont have fact-checkers or even journalists for that matter.

They have narrative-builders, propagandists if you will.

[Seamus]

"Now Gonzalez is suing the prosecutors in federal court, seeking $1 million in damages due to the harm she suffered from both the initial arrest and the media coverage of the matter."

Good luck getting past absolute immunity for prosecutors.

[Medulla Oblongata]

Seen on news just now:

Illinois Proposal Would Have Taxpayers Fund $1k A Month Guaranteed Income

According to the current text of the bill, after the board is dissolved at the end of 2027, DHS would then administer the program with monthly cash payments of $1000 to Illinois residents, regardless of immigration status, who provide care for a child or other dependent, recently gave birth, or is enrolled in an educational or vocational program.

“For regardless of immigration status, I think an unintended consequence could be a flood of migrants coming to Illinois looking for benefits, and not having to work for it,” he argued.

[I, Woodchipper]

lol ya think?

[A Cynical Asshole]

“For regardless of immigration status, I think an unintended consequence could be a flood of migrants coming to Illinois looking for benefits, and not having to work for it,” he argued.

Easily foreseen consequences are not unintended.

[Medulla Oblongata]

Pointing out unintended consequences before they occur is racist. Or so I've been told.

[JesseAz]

Sarc assures us that despite video and polling evidence, they just come here to work, not get free benefits.

[Medulla Oblongata]

Just seen on news:

NYC pols push $15M plan to provide free mental health services to migrants

Big Apple lawmakers may need their heads examined.

Newly arrived migrants to the five boroughs may soon be able to visit with taxpayer-funded therapists to get in touch with their feelings, should a new City Council proposal become law.

The bill would station mental health coordinators at all 218 city migrant shelters and run taxpayers — on the low end — at least $15 million a year, according to a Post analysis.

The proposal was introduced last week by Councilmembers Lynn Schulman (D-Queens), Shahana Hanif (D-Brooklyn), and Jennifer Gutiérrez (D-Brooklyn). The trio failed to get the bill passed last year.

The measure “would require the Mayor’s Office of Community Health to have at least one mental health coordinator at any location where refugees and migrants receive services from the city.

The locations will include emergency congregate housing, shelters run by the Department of Homeless Services, and resource centers that provide various social services to refugees and immigrants.”

Schulman, the bill’s lead sponsor and chair of the council’s health committee, said the details were still preliminary.

“Mental health is also part of health care,” she told The Post several times during a brief phone interview.

Many city migrants have been spending their time in some of the Big Apple’s finest hotels at full taxpayer expense — it’s unclear if therapists would also make house calls.

Despite the city’s red carpet treatment — which has included taxpayer-funded meals, phones, and prepaid credit cards — migrants have been suffering a raft of mental health struggles since arriving in New York, activists say.

“We’ve had many of the asylees break down weeping as they express what they’re going through,” said Power Malu, executive director of Artists Athletes Activists in testimony to the council last year, adding that many migrants felt the city accommodations were like “detention centers in Mexico.”

The cost of tending to the more than 175,000 migrants who have arrived in New York City in recent years could balloon to $12 billion and has already forced drastic cuts to other areas of the city budget. Bipartisan critics in the council said the new mental health plan was a non-starter.

[Brandybuck]

Wait! I've been to the Burlingame Caltrain station! How the hell do you build a secret house there? What? What? How is this even possible?

It's a damned parking structure and a bog standard train station! There's literally no place to build even a one room studio apartment and keep it secret! Only explanation is it was built when the station was built and it's underneath the tracks like an Evil Bond Villain Lair.

[Don't look at me!]

You didn’t see that pile of used pallets out back?

[markm23]

Were there no locked doors marked "Authorized personnel only"? Did you walk around the back of the station and measure to check whether there was only enough space for a small office and janitor's closet behind that door, or perhaps an extra 500 square feet?

[I, Woodchipper]

Extinction Rebellion NYC's Palestinian Solidarity group

It's all one big group of Bolsheviks with a single cause. The names and the Current Thing are irrelevant.

[Dillinger]

mme dilinger: my mother beat into me I better not ever need an abortion & now my sis-in-law is demanding her daughter have the right lolwtf

[mad.casual]

lolwtf

Once again, I don't mean to play the prototypical male chauvinist backup role here, but... *younger* sibling and sis-in-law? Because, as oldest male, all I hear is that an ass-kicking has been fully justified.

[Dillinger]

>> growing movement of people who are choosing physician-assisted suicide due to mental health issues

tree ... rope. asking the state to bless your idiocy is offensive.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Yeah. Physically capable individuals have always had the ability to commit suicide and they do so every day. A few may decide not to for religious or moral reasons but I doubt legality enters into the equation. Giving suicide the imprimatur of the state and the expert class is obviously designed to reduce hesitantly. Depression and "borderline personality disorder" are not mental diseases analogous to schizophrenia. They are part of the normal human condition. Libertarians obviously recognize suicide as an individual right, however misguided. But we can't support the government encouraging it.

[Dillinger]

it's ghoulish. somewhere is a bwah hah haaaaah every time a "physician" succeeds.

[Dillinger]

>>Starr County district attorney, Gocha Ramirez

(D). shocked!

[JesseAz]

Given her name I think this has to be an April Fools story.

[Dillinger]

no no it's a dude. he's real https://www.co.starr.tx.us/page/starr.District.Attorney

[Dillinger]

>>Among pro-lifers, roughly 80 percent support IVF (higher if you look at evangelical pro-lifers on their own).

fuck how is the left going to play g*d and pwn the right?

[Dillinger]

>>"China's ... economy is stabilizing,"

Let's Go Brandon!

[Dillinger]

>>"One in 4.4 couples in Japan has undergone tests or treatment for infertility

China Syndrome?

[Roberta]

...

people who are choosing physician-assisted suicide due to mental health issues, not terminal illness.

Does it matter whether the cause of their suffering is mental or physical? All suffering is mental anyway.

[Mother's Lament]

What matters is if it is 1. terminal, and 2. is causing unbearable pain.

[Zeb]

I would say it matters. A lot of people suffering from severe depression or whatever unbearable mental ailment feel like their suffering will never end, but that usually isn't the case. And those who do find a way to enjoy life again are usually quite grateful to those who didn't take them at their word that life was unbearable and not worth living.

[soldiermedic76]

I hypothesize that since we've largely removed or attempted to remove traditional hallmarks of life, e.g. getting married, having kids etc, people are finding that the promised good life we should be enjoying without these hallmarks is far emptier than they were led to believe. I have an ex gf that swore she would never have kids, got pregnant accidentally, and now finds her daughter is far more fulfilling than anything she did before she had a kid and is somewhat resentful she didn't have kids when she was younger.

[soldiermedic76]

Study after study (which means repeatability, which is a rather unique thing in the so called social sciences) find that religious, family and working class people's tend to have the greatest sense of happiness, well being and fulfillment. But the so called experts keep pressing for fewer people to choose the working class, traditional family, religious route, trying to claim that you can have a happy, fulfilling life without these. And maybe for some you can, but probably not for the majority.

[A Cynical Asshole]

I hypothesize that since we’ve largely removed or attempted to remove traditional hallmarks of life, e.g. getting married, having kids etc, people are finding that the promised good life we should be enjoying without these hallmarks is far emptier than they were led to believe.

Yep, we were told that a lot (if not all) of those "traditional hallmarks of life" were just social constructs that people were being forced into through culture, traditionalism, societal pressure, etc. Turns out, maybe people actually did/ have evolved over centuries of time to intrinsically seek those things out, and people were sold a load of bullshit by radical feminists and others who maybe - just maybe - didn't have people or society's best interests at heart?

[soldiermedic76]

Yeah, especially reproduction. Going against about 2 billion years of evolution may have unforeseen (or foreseen and ignored) consequences. Sexual reproduction is about 2 billion years old evolutionarily speaking, and a Hallmark of all multicellular eukaryotic organisms and a not insignificant number of single cell eukaryotic organisms (and a primitive version is seen in some prokaryotic organisms as well). Who would have thought (even if you don't believe in God) that trying to go against 2 billion years of evolution would not result in a happy, fulfilled life?

[soldiermedic76]

Also, this isn't exactly a new thing for anyone who studied history, because quite a few of the revolts, period of civil unrest during the past were at least partially correlated to increase age at marriage, fewer marriages (which used to be largely due to financial hardships) and or lack of children. I mean the Shoguns of Tokugawa Japan not only encouraged marriage and childbearing but passed laws making it easier to do both even for peasants as a way to decrease civil unrest.

[Vernon Depner]

Evangelicals tend to be less concerned about IVF. Among pro-lifers, roughly 80 percent support IVF (higher if you look at evangelical pro-lifers on their own)

That's because religious conservatives tend to desire larger families, and so they are more likely to have used fertility treatments or to know someone who has.

[AT]

So, curious where Reason falls on this one:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/doctors-abortion-wrong-woman-prague-hospital-gross-negligence-b1148764.html

Intentionally killed the wrong baby. Or, is that no big deal because it's just a clump of cells, akin to a tumor? Is mom's grief real, and if so why? They want to "compensate" her - compensate her for what? Negligence? Surely it was harmless negligence, no? Who did they harm and how? Was it just mom who accidentally underwent a needless surgery? Or did someone also get their life snuffed out?

Could this have even happened in the first place if we didn't allow these kinds of "procedures" in the name of rEpRoDuCtiVE hEaLth?

Oh, and for added fun - the hospital is blaming the fact that she was a foreigner who didn't know the language. Gee, could that be a pretty strong argument for foreigners to maybe assimilate a little and make an effort to learn the language of the place where they're living and, apparently, "getting routine checkups?"

Can't wait to hear how the pro-borts defend this.