If Semiconductor Chip Demand Is High, Why Do We Need More Subsidies?
Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo says more chip subsidies are needed, even before the Biden administration has distributed $52 billion or measured how effective that spending was.

The Biden administration has yet to announce how it plans to spend the $52 billion in semiconductor manufacturing subsidies that Congress approved more than 18 months ago.
But the administration is already laying the groundwork for another round of taxpayer-funded subsidies for advanced computer chips—with an argument that reveals how economically illiterate the whole effort has been all along.
"I suspect there will have to be—whether you call it Chips Two or something else—continued investment if we want to lead the world," Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo said this week while speaking at an Intel corporate event, Bloomberg reported. "Chips Two" is a reference to the CHIPS and Science Act, that 2022 bill that authorized $52 billion in subsidies, a sizable chuck of which is expected to find its way into Intel's pockets when the White House announces its funding plans in the coming weeks.
Perhaps nothing better illustrates the way the government approaches issues than throwing an arbitrary amount of money at a perceived problem, and then declaring that more money will be needed to solve that problem even before the first pile of money has been distributed or the usefulness of the spending measured.
But the real kicker here is Raimondo's explanation for why more subsidies might be necessary.
"She pointed to the computing demands of artificial intelligence, adding that she has spoken with OpenAI Chief Executive Officer Sam Altman, who's working to secure US government approval for a massive venture to boost global manufacturing of AI chips," Bloomberg explained. "'When I talk to him or other customers in the industry, the volume of chips that they project they need is mind-boggling,' she said."
What? The argument for more federal subsidies for semiconductors is that there is suddenly a surge in demand for them? Is this a joke?
If it's not immediately clear why that argument is nonsense, think about it in any context other than semiconductors. Imagine that there was a new technology that ran on potatoes, and suddenly there was skyrocketing demand for potatoes. Would that require a massive government subsidy program to produce more potatoes, or would farmers suddenly have a huge incentive (independent of any government scheme) to grow more potatoes?
In fairness, one of the main arguments for getting the government involved in subsidizing semiconductor manufacturing is that advanced computer chips are not exactly potatoes. Building a fabrication facility for high-end chips is a major investment, the future is always somewhat uncertain, and companies like Intel might be more willing to take that risk if they weren't shouldering the whole cost. (Of course, they'll still be more than happy to collect the whole reward when the risk pays off.)
What Raimondo said this week undermines that case for government intervention too. If some of the most successful tech companies in America are telling Raimondo that they expect to need to buy a lot more semiconductors in the coming years, that should be a signal to Intel and other advanced chipmakers they can safely invest in building out capacity for chip production (in the U.S. or wherever it makes the most economic and strategic sense to do that) and rest assured that their investments will pay off because their future products will have buyers.
A more sensible industrial policy would look at the huge advances being made in AI and chip manufacturing and conclude that there's no need for the government to start picking winners and losers in what is clearly a robust, healthy marketplace.
Besides, governments can juice demand by throwing money around, but they're not very good at influencing the supply side of the equation—and that's where most of the bottlenecks in chip manufacturing continue to exist. There are only a few companies in the world, for example, with the technical skills to make the machines used to make advanced semiconductors.
Think about potatoes again. Now imagine that there were only a few places on the planet with the soil necessary to grow potatoes. Subsidizing potato production would not solve that problem.
But once the government gets involved in subsidizing an industry, that industry has a strong incentive to keep those subsidies flowing. We're already seeing that, even before the CHIPS Act funds have been distributed. Earlier this month, a spokesman for Intel told The Wall Street Journal that the company is slowing construction on a new plant in Ohio while waiting to be showered with taxpayer money.
It's foolish for the Biden administration to play along, but it appears eager to do so. Demand for advanced semiconductors remains high, but unfortunately so too does demand for taxpayer-funded handouts.
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This is a trick question, right?
Because other governments are distorting the markets, making it uneconomical to build in the U.S.
Trick answer to a trick question by a trick writer. Stands to reason, ha ha.
Because other governments are distorting the markets, making it uneconomical to build in the U.S.
When foreign governments subsidize industry, distorting prices downward, what is the correct response? Thank their taxpayers for subsidizing the things you buy, or have your government take your money from you and give it to domestic industry to make things "fair"?
You really are a stupid fuck. They’re trying to drive our manufacturing industry out of business, and useful idiots like you help them.
American manufacturing output is at an all time high. We manufacture more stuff than ever before. What is down is manufacturing employment due to automation.
So if you want to bring those romantic manufacturing jobs back, first you're going to have to go all Luddite and destroy a bunch of machines.
Elmer is a dumbass. The manufacturing boom is just not happening in his little hillbilly hick town while he is collecting his SSDI and high on painkillers.
It's not just him. Lack of manufacturing is a cornerstone of the Trump campaign. Like most politicians he lives and breathes economic ignorance, and his followers lap it up like a cat at a bowl of milk.
If I want to bask in economic ignorance, I need only read your drunken gibbering. Made all the worse by your pickled brain.
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Smarter than you by at least an order of magnitude. Of course that is a very low bar. And not a pedophillic child rapist. Not like you.
Politicians love "saving" factory and farm jobs, because it means more money to hand out. And more labor unions to hit up for donations.
I’m not a fan of it. However, the global reality is that hostile entities like China do subsidize their industries with the express purpose of strategically wrecking certain US industries.
What's your solution? Use tariffs to make Americans pay more money for those things? Take money away from Americans in the form of taxes and give it to favored industries? Why do the solutions all involve fucking over American consumers and taxpayers?
Threats of retaliation and using available leverage against hostile actors are usually the best way. That said, I do not believe in structural tariffs for their own sake.
Also, buddying up to the resident pedophile is never a good look.
Ignorant right-wingers use "pedophile" the same way ignorant leftists use "racist." It's an evidence-free partisan buzzword that means nothing. because it's thrown about so frequently as to lose all credibility.
I remember this argument being g bandied about in the 80s about how Japan would be eating our lunch because they socialized their industry and it was working.
Then around the 00s I think. I'd have to look it up, the socialism failed as it always does and corporate execs started raining from the skyscrapers because their companies were hemorrhaging money.
Socialism Always Fails. There's no reason we need to do it to fight other socialisms. We suck it up and soon their corporate execs will fall like snowflakes on a winter morning.
That makes perfect sense.
Which begs the question - who are you, and what have you done with the real sarcasmic? 🙂
theres no longer free market every major govt subsidizes their own shit from japs, china korea taiwan germany turkey etc etc at the expense of American.
How is that at the expense of Americans? If their subsidies lower prices, then shouldn't we thank them for the artificially low priced goods and spend that money on something else?
So to save the free market we must socialize it and give huge amounts of corporate welfare to companies who invested in Senators and Presidents instead if research and innovation.
No. It's because our own government makes it uneconomical to be build in this country without industrialist bending a knee.
Yep. Get the government out of the way. Chip making would happen here.
That would be the ideal solution. Then find other ways to slap China down when they try to screw our industry. None of which will happen under the Biden Regime.
Then find other ways to slap China down when they try to screw our industry.
You mean slap down American consumers and taxpayers with tariffs and subsidies.
None of which will happen under the Biden Regime.
He's continued all of Trump's tariffs and created new subsidies for industry. He's doing a great job of fucking over American consumers and taxpayers, just like you say he should.
China already slaps down American consumers in a variety of ways. The best thing we can do is uncouple our economy from theirs and stop feeding the beast that wants to subjugate us.
Generally if their is an economic problem there is a government program or agency that has caused it.
We don't need to socialize the free market in order to save it.
But that means no juicy corporate welfare that Republicans love so much.
Not merely distorting the markets, the primary semiconductor and sundries producer uses slave labor. Sorry... political prisoner convict labor.
That sounds like a them problem, not an us problem. I am recalling the bad old days of the Soviet Union when they were doing much the same in several international markets in which the US held dominance trying to undercut us. It bankrupted them. Trying to keep up with us on the military hardware market, the civilian goods market and the propping up third world countries market destroyed their economy and they also became a third world country.
The Republicans need to start sending people like Ronald Reagan to the House and Senate instead of warmongers like Nicky Haley.
US salaries, rent, land prices, and regulations make it uneconomical to build in the US. The US education system isn't what it once was, but we can import enough foreign engineers to make up for that.
Reluctantly, and strategically, Boehm got one half-right.
What about the liberty angle? As in, economic freedom, freedom from tax theft, and all that other icky liberty stuff?
Fire KMW.
Get out of DC.
Liberty first, utility second.
>>with an argument that reveals how economically illiterate the whole effort has been all along.
I hope the string of rhetorical questions you asked in every piece since your strategic vote has helped you reach some adulty conclusions about your politics ...
Ctr+F "taiwan": Phrase not found
This is a deeply unserious article. The problem is not that there is insufficient market to meet the demand. The problem is that most of that market is located in Taiwan and, due to the situation over there, there are concerns (founded or not) about the continued supply of those chips if China decided to invade Taiwan. Now, whether trying to wean US buyers off of Taiwan supply is necessary for security, worth the expenditure and market "misallocation", and is/is not a way of tossing Taiwan to the Chinese wolves is a whole extra debate but let's be 100% clear here: In anything talking about semiconductor chips, no one is worried about the invisible hand of the market. People are worried about who will or won't get shot to death with bullets.
This is a well written comment vs the vapid article. The issue is as below:
National Security depends on control of production (in the US or somewhere “reliable”) for electronic components in general and high performance integrated circuits in particular.
There is nearly zero production of many required components, in particular, high performance integrated circuits (HPIC) in the US. Production of HPIC is concentrated in Taiwan.
Taiwan is vulnerable to takeover by China and even in the event of a failed takeover production capacity would be curtailed or production capacity completely destroyed.
We should never have facilitated the export of these technologies and the production capacity that goes with them in the first place. (and we did,) But bringing it back and reestablishing the economic ecosystem that supports it is expensive. I am sure the USG is going to screw it up, but the reasoning behind making this effort is good.
I will note that this issue of National Security is one of those that sometimes trumps (not Donald) the desire for a perfect libertarian economy. Sometimes you need to do things to protect yourself in a world where for most countries capitalism, libertarianism and even free speech are things to be destroyed, not protected and heralded. The world is a violent space filled with aggressors.
The night is dark and full of terrors. And one of the worst is Congress.
whoever wrote the article need to take a cyanide bath rofl
If Taiwan disappearing as a semiconductor manufacturer is likely that would encourage building chip making facilities without government help. The question is still "...is market or government better". The only difference is the question starts with "When it comes to anticipating the results of Chinese government action...".
Government is still worse. The logic is still the same.
We will give you 52 billion and all you need to do is give 5.2 billion of it back to the DNC.
No, no, no, the $5.2 million has to go back to Seneca Partners. 10% of THAT is reserved for the Big Guy.
"If Semiconductor Chip Demand Is High, Why Do We Need More Subsidies?"
Because of white supremacy?
Only if Asian people count as white.
Asians are becoming whiter all the time. Now they are as stupid as white people were 10 years ago when they couldn’t see that “identity politics” wasn’t a war against white people, it was a war against individualism. At least Asians are willing to fight against DEI in college admissions but will they be able to shed their tribal identities and take on the “identitarians” head on?
Jews still fight to maintain their Jewish identity even though it arms their enemies and leaves them open to attack. Jews and Nazis agreed on one thing, that Jews were different than everybody else. That belief, almost universal at the time, resulted in millions of deaths of innocent people. Roosevelt refused to allow Jews fleeing Nazi Germany to come to the US. Few Americans objected.
Either you believe that you are an individual who “happens” to Jewish or Asian or black or white or whatever, or you believe that you are essentially a member of a group. You either think for yourself, or you accept the group commands.
Perhaps nothing better illustrates the way the government approaches issues than throwing an arbitrary amount of money at a perceived problem, and then declaring that more money will be needed to solve that problem even before the first pile of money has been distributed or the usefulness of the spending measured.
QFMFT.
How about a law requiring fairly precise measurement of the purported result of any expenditure, and if that is not realized any proponent is banned from office for being a poor steward of the taxpayers' money?
“We” don’t, but Congress sees it as an excuse to hand out more cash for taxpayers to pay back later.
TSMC and other foundries are building fabs in Arizona and Texas and elsewhere to assuage supply chain worries from their customers (about being located on an island with a target on it).
But the semiconductor cash grab allows Congress to get some plants planned in New York or Ohio or California or wherever doesn’t make sense.
Money squirts out of the Biden administration's nostrils like a ruptured aneurysm. Spending billions as if they were millions, allowing a couple million illegals in with no skills (unless they were in prison).
When does incomprehensible incompetence become malignant treason?
I think we're there.
Has this guy never heard of China and Taiwan? Just go watch the Vox explainer on this and you’ll have your answer.
China/Taiwan doesn't change anything. It just means that reason to invest in new chip manufacturing is different, not that the government needs to subsidize is.
There are two reasons for the subsidies. The first is to reward "Silicon Valley" for supporting the Biden administration. The second is to lock in the established technologies and keep engineering talent away from start-ups that might produce a superior technology.
That new technology would challenge the existing companies, just as the old technology leaders, (IBM, Sun Microsystems, UNIX etc) were taken down by Nvidia and Linux.
Don't forget all those Republicans in the House and Senate who promised corporate welfare in exchange for campaign contributions.
This idiocy will enjoy bipartisan support.
"If Semiconductor Chip Demand Is High, Why Do We Need More Subsidies?"
Election year.
Exactly it. Keep dumping money to get across the midterms and make sure a piece of it cycles back to the coffers.
This article misses the main reason. It's a national security issue. Semiconductors are so crucial that we don't need some manufacturing here at home, instead of Asia. Whether or not we need subsidies to do that and if so, how much, is another debate, but the issue here is a real one.
If a basket of Asian nations, including China, are making money hand over fist selling us microchips do you really think they are going to want that gravy train to come to an end by cutting us off and going to war?
I know they are commies but so what. The Soviet Union collapsed, China will fall from their own idiocy as well. We need to speed it up by air dropping Victoria's Secret catalogues and buy one get one free coupons for Levi's. Its what really took the Soviets down.
The short answer is because they love creating a dependent class. Of course, the same people that are pushing these unnecessary subsidies scream about oil industry "subsidies." These are tax treatments they can nether understand or explain.
Perhaps somebody in government believes it's not a great idea to rely on China for all of our high tech.