California Bill Banning Landlords' No-Dog Policies Is Anti-Choice and Anti-Urban
The market has created a lot of dog-free housing for a reason. A bill from Assemblymember Matt Haney would destroy it.

If you'd like to live in a building that isn't full of dogs howling at all hours of the night and urinating in the elevator, you might soon be out of luck in California.
Earlier this month, California Assemblymember Matt Haney (D–San Francisco) introduced a bill that would prohibit landlords from having blanket no-dogs-allowed policies.
The text of the introduced bill is still quite brief, saying only that "it is the intent of the Legislature to enact legislation related to a landlord's ability to prohibit common household pets in residential tenancies."
A news release published by Haney's office earlier this week adds a little more detail, saying that the legislation will "require landlords to have reasonable reason(s) for not allowing a pet in a rental unit and only allows landlords to ask about pet ownership after a tenant's application has been approved."
"I've heard from many constituents about the incredible hurdles and challenges they faced in finding homes simply because they own pets," Haney told the Los Angeles Times on Wednesday. "They've been repeatedly denied because they have a dog."
The assemblyman frames no-dog policies as just one more hardship facing California renters in a state with an insufficiency of housing. His news release says that 70 percent of renters are pet owners but only 30 percent of available rentals are pet-friendly.
Now, a greater supply of housing would give pet owners more options and incentivize landlords to be less choosy.
Haney, to his credit, does say that the state needs to build more homes. He also has a pretty decent track record of supporting zoning reforms aimed at housing supply in the Legislature.
Nevertheless, he pitches his pet ban ban bill as a necessary supplement to pro-supply policies, saying that "we won't be able to solve this crisis if 12 million people across the state are being denied access to that housing because they have a companion pet."
The fact that so many landlords prohibit pets when so many potential tenants have them should prompt some deeper reflection from the assemblyman. Suppliers, even in highly regulated markets, aren't typically in the business of turning away a huge pool of customers for the fun of it.
Landlords have reasons for having no-pet policies, including the potential that pets will damage their property. More importantly, pets impose costs on other renters; they can be dirty, they can be noisy, and they can even be dangerous.
By prohibiting pets, landlords aren't limiting the supply of housing. They're creating a supply of pet-free housing, for which there's a lot of demand.
Haney's bill therefore isn't a necessary supplement to pro-supply policies. It's not a second-best solution to a lack of housing supply. It's actively anti-supply and anti-choice.
It's also an anti-urban policy.
Dogs are not bad per se. Other Reason writers have even argued that they're good. But they are bad pets to have in the city.
They have the potential to cause nuisances, which, in dense urban areas, negatively impact more people. They also take up a lot of public space. No sidewalk is too wide for a dog owner and their leashed animal to stretch all the way across. City parks that could be enjoyed by everyone (and everyone has to pay for) are often turned into dog parks for the exclusive enjoyment of dog owners and their pets.
The more city space, public and private, we sacrifice to these beasts, the less interested people will be in living in the city generally.
In this way, the urbanist case against dogs is similar to the urbanist case against cars; both cause negative externalities and take up a lot of expensive public land without paying for it.
Unlike dogs, cars serve a countervailing urbanist purpose of connecting people to jobs and amenities across the wider metro area. Dogs serve no such function.
That doesn't mean there's not a time or place for them. It's just that that time and place is called the suburbs.
In Golden Gates, Conor Dougherty's book on the early YIMBY movement, he notes that post-war suburban sprawl resulted in a massive explosion in the country's dog population. As it turns out, large lots and owner-occupied housing make a much more amenable environment for dogs and dog ownership. The implication is that dense urban areas dominated by rental housing are not.
None of this, of course, means that dog ownership should be banned anywhere. But it does make dog ownership a poor candidate for public subsidy. That includes regulations that allow dog owners to force their way into private housing, where neither the owners nor the other renters want them.
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Don't forget too that most dog owners are about as vigilant as homeless people in San Fran when it comes to picking up poop.
Cite?
Try leaving your mom's basement once in a while and see for yourself.
You live in a refrigerator box in a piss soaked alley.
I do feel relieved that Christian Britschgi (the author of the article) is willing to share (and impose) his wisdom on all of us lesser enlightened mortals.
He's the type neighbor I'd like to have out here in the unincorporated (and unzoned) wilds of north Louisiana so I could put goats next to his land.
That sounds like a statically valid argument.
Of considerable statistical merit.
In our neighborhood, I have never seen anybody walking their dog pick up the poop. Many of them walk multiple dogs at a time.
I am reminded of the first Despicable Me movie when the neighbor says something to the effect of, "You know dogs, they go where they want to go." To which Gru responds, "Not if they're dead."
Responsible pet owners are the exception, not the rule.
Can I still ban the possession of dog food and leashes? How about partial bans like no pets over say 5 pounds? How about requiring that the dogs have been vaccinated for covid with at least 2 extra boosters?
No pets over 8 ounces.
Nobody needs 23 different types of dogs.
Nobody needs more than 2 types of pets. I think Pokémon should be all the pet anyone needs in socialist utopia.
Well, it appears my main account has been Shadowbanned. I guess I need to decide if I'm going to create a new account, or just walk away from Reason. Decisions decisions...
Rick James, Bitch, formerly Diane Reynolds (Paul.) they/them
Super freaky.
I created this Rick James account YEARS ago for one purpose and one purpose only. Every time Reason mentioned or referenced Charlie Rangel, I'd log in and post:
CHARLIE RANGEL!
wait wait wait ... first of all cocaine is a helluva drug and I wholeheartedly appreciate the name change
but what the fuck I hope it's a misunderstanding because you post nothing here to bring shadowbanning down upon yourself
I'm curious to know what "shadowbanning" means in the Reason comment system. I haven't seen anything that matches the usual use of that term. Is it possible that it's just the squirrels running the comment engine acting up again?
See my comment below... I'm calling it "shadowbanning" because I assume a 'ban' would be your account is disabled.
Or no one would see the comments.
Yahoo shadowbans me every other day. Either that or their system just has a lot of bugs. I will ban them one of these days.
Yeah, I'm calling it 'shadowbanning' because my account isn't disabled, but all my comments go into black hole. If I post a comment, it doesn't appear, and then when I repost it says, "You're posting duplicate comments"... So now I'm trying to decide if this is my moment to exit stage left.
Depends on how big the squirrels chasing you are.
Odd. Multiple hyperlinks in your comment? That will trigger the behavior you describe. Other than that, ... Sounds more like comment squirrels, maybe. Curious to hear if it's still doing the same thing tomorrow.
I switched to this account after my first one got flagged for "spam". I think this was related to my abhorrent habit of posting links to back up the things I was citing. Everything I posted from that point was blocked from appearing.
But you, of course, were silenced (because you're just too much of a threat to the Reason establishment).
I post. Therefore, I am.
No offense, I'm going to laugh if they shadowbanned you but still allow "hard-r" motherfuckers like me to roam free calling the staff retards and telling them to shove dangerous foreign object up their own or each other's asses.
Shadow banned or just blocked by everyone?
Probably blocked by everyone. Probably it will happen again...
That stinks Super Freaky. I thought your comments were always worth reading
Right goal, wrong solution because Haney misattributes the problem. Why are pet owners disfavored?
While most pet owners are responsible people, some are not. Government policies make it hard for landlords to recover damages and to evict the bad pet owners. Therefore, the landlords' rational response is to forbid all pet owners rather than get stuck with the bad ones.
Pet-friendly rental policies are common in less litigious jurisdictions. If Haney wants people with pets to have an easier time of it, he should focus on fixing the root problem, not patching over the symptoms.
If people don’t do the right thing, government must force them.
/jeff
now do it in a "don't you think it's better if something something retarded?" theoretical that brings 400 "you're an idiot" posts with it
But what if you have a pet bear that you drive around in your trunk? Ever thought about that? Who is going to stop that? What if it gets out?
Most of the Cali apartments and condos around here allow one small pet (like under 20 pounds). Which stops no one from having 2 or 3 pets, including dogs of all sizes.
I disagree with the oft repeated phrase 'most pet owners are responsible.' Some sure, but not most, and definitely not in urban areas. My experience as a property manager is that dog owner's homes are usually filthy, hair and footprints everywhere, crap all over the yard. They mostly own 'protection' dogs that they never take out, they destroy the floors by scratching under doors, eat the window sills, remove any grass from the exterior, prevent maintenance or management from entering, and every few months rent is late because they had to take the dog to the vet.
The tenants are barely scraping by and using money they don't have to feed a bunch of dogs, money they should spend on their children or reliable transportation. They also have thier kids living in bad neighborhoods just to have the dogs, if they didn't have them they could rent elsewhere for less. But you can't fix stupid.
Your observations match my own. I spent 30 years working as a mobile locksmith. The dog owner who would lock their dog in another room while I worked was rare. Most expected me to not only work on their exterior door locks but watch so their dog didn't get out through the door. In Denver Colorado I had to wear tall leather boker boots because most of the "don't worry, he just barks" would try and take a chunk out of my leg.
One of my bosses kept dogs in the shop and let them run free. Until one of his mop dogs but a guy in the crotch. No joke. The guy died from complications from the infection after two years of many trips to many doctors using all manner of antibiotics. You see, the.. um... gentleman's sausage is a very vascular organ and with a few pumps of the man's heart the bacteria were spread all through his body.
As a property owner and a landlord I agree whole heartedly that my property values trump your dog ownership. Go live in a shithole where property damage is expected.
Hey! Don’t dump the dogs on the suburbs. We have dogs next door and behind us and going out in our back yard sets off a chorus of barks and growls, as does the random deer or fox.
My son calls those "barkstorms" and when he goes for a walk around the neighborhood he starts them up. He can get half a dozen dogs barking at once. Not that it's a huge challenge. I mean, dogs bark at anything.
There should be a drinking game for every article containing "California banning".
I have to wonder what isn't banned in California.
Shoplifting.
Public defecation.
Shooting up heroin in the playground and ditching the needle in the sand under the swingset.
We are far past the point where the people deserve whatever their government does to them. And now that that's out of the way:
Ambiguity is a problem here. My experience is with hotels, but I bet it applies to landlords.
Common scenario one: I make a reservation at a hotel that has advertised itself as "pet-friendly". I show up to check in with my tiny parrot in a cage, and they say, "Oh. We only take dogs," and I am left scrambling to find a place to stay at the last minute.
Less-common scenario two (since the opportunities to find out about it are limited): I pass up a hotel that says "no pets allowed" only to find out later somehow that they wouldn't have minded a small parrot in the least.
Yeah parrots are known to speak English and spew obscenity laced invectives at innocent passersby. They should all rest in peace pining for the fjords. Not be thrust upon civilized society by nomadic ne'er do wells.
Ha! x'D
Hootie is of the variety that is usually disinclined to talk, and he hasn't taken interest. Probably because he doesn't realize how much he could blackmail me for!
I had a couple of big parrots back in the day. Lived for decades. Never talked but damn they were noisy. After the last one died I honestly missed his shriek for years.
A couple of buddies of mine tried to get a parrot to say the Miranda Rights speach. Never did get past right to remain silent.
After all, I had nothing to do with saving and using the government's wealth to acquire the responsibility of paying property taxes, building insurance, liability insurance, repair and maintenance costs, accounting, and legal fees for this building that the government lets me pay for. I do not even manage or have a say in how this building is used and by whom, and for what. I sure am grateful for the opportunity to answer in court under threat of arrest, though, for anything the government tells me to do and that I do not do. What, exactly, is the value of “ownership” again?
I would be fine with this with one simple amendment; all legislators who vote in favor of this bill become jointly and severably liable for any attack by a tenant's dog ever. And their heirs and assigns in perpetuity.
Here's an idea. Stop pushing for everyone to live in tiny apartments in big cities. Shit laws like this exist because cities are full of people renting who don't care about the property and cause damage. The idea that dog ownership is fine is undercut by the admission that it creates negative externalities in the dense housing situations preferred by Christian.
Yes, let the market decide. The market will decide that there's too many careless renters who will allow pets to cause expensive damage to their properties. I suspect it would be less of a problem if not for this same government subsidizing housing. It's generally the same people taking advantage of that as those who cause property damage. Basically, urban living encourages irresponsible assholes to destroy properties owned by a small number of massive corporations
Diane Whipple may have disagreed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Diane_Whipple
BUT SHE DAID!
Next up: "California Mandates State Prisons Provide Each Inmate With Service Animal Of Their Choice"
And if the dog identifies as a cat taxpayers will pay for trans species affirming care.
"This is my seeing eye elephant."
"Emotional support rhino."
>>If you'd like to live in a building that isn't full of dogs howling at all hours of the night and urinating in the elevator ...
work hard and buy a fucking cabin in the woods. America.
In flyover country?
(shudders)
they have woods everywhere now
What will the overlords in the Legislature do when landlords follow Supreme Overlord Newsome’s thoughts, as they relate to ammunition and exorbitantly highly taxes, and demand a 10,000x one month’s rent as a pet/dog deposit in response?
Privately owned rental housing? You. Didn't. Build. That!
Since you can't ban children and there would definitely be a demand for kid free apartments then why is it so wrong to prevent banning dogs? You could also end around by having your dogs classified as emotional support animals.
I live in a kid-free community. At least one adult in the household has to be over 50, and no one can be under 18.
Retirement communities are exempt from fair housing act.
You don't see any difference between children and dogs? That says more about you than you'd perhaps care to admit.
You don’t see any difference between children and dogs?
No, he didn't say that.
Are you incapable of understanding elementary English? Or do you deliberately misinterpret what people say?
Dog owners think their "fur babies" are the equivalent of children. They think having a dog or cat prepares them for parenting. Which may explain why so many couples raise terrible children.
Oh, so now you're against state mandates on local communities....
The market has created a lot of low-density housing for a reason, too....
Not sure what was more enjoyable about the article: Britschgi's dawning realization that the NIMBYs sometimes have a point, or how well his arguments slot into the illegal aliens/open borders debate.
Right, funny how he cannot see that in his zeal to push everyone into highrise communities. All I got from this article is that Christian likes being the only bitch in his apartment building.
Until I read this article l was not aware that there exists an urbanism movement and libertarians like Christian were supporting urbanist arguments. I have a few questions. How well armed are these people? Do adherents hold widely publicized meetings or do they operate in the shadows? Are they poised to do battle with populists? Christian nationalists? As a ruralist should I arm myself? Are they coming for me? Will they build an enormous apartment complex on my rotting corpse with urine soaked elevators? I'll be watching my back.
California is a DESERT, is can not build homes and guaranty water sources for all residents. There is A LIMIT to the ability of the EARTH to provide water to specific areas, and CA has far exceeded its ability. It is now to the point that CA which grew almost all the fruits and veggies for the entire USA and much of the world is no longer producing at previous levels BECAUSE OF WATER. Entire sections (640 acres) of fruit trees are being killed to divert water. Same with nut trees and with vegetable crops. There is INSANITY within the Federal Governent and state governments. Allowing millions of immigrants to flood this country when infrastructure and housing are at critical lows and jobs are scarce or low wage compared to economic inflation is insanity.
The drought is over, two years of heavy rains now.
And there's an ocean of water just a bit to the west.... should have started the desalination plants 50 years ago.
You can't easily run desalination plants without...lots of electricity they also refuse to generate.
California doesn't need desalination plants, it needs to stop wasting subsidized water on agriculture in what is essentially desert regions.
Another indication that California is going to the dogs...
The scariest words in the English language, to conservatives in California (contrary to popular belief, there are a lot of them, it was the state with the most Trump voters in 2020):
"We're from Sacramento and we're here to help."
"There oughta be a law!"
"Gavin Newsom for President!"
Saying that it violates property rights is sufficient to make me oppose it. Saying it's anti-urbanist tempts me to change my mind and support it, so best not to emphasize that point.
It's time people start gaining their rights back. Between insurance companies and landlords they steal everything worth living for. Thank God at least one politician is fighting for the people.
What rights? Your right to fuck up my property by keeping an animal inside? It's a living space for humans. Barns are living spaces for animals. Want to live with your animals? Rent a barn.
I think much of the population of people in favor of measures like this consider themselves libertarian. They view impositions by government, landlords, and employers (when it comes to, say, no-smoking rules) as of a piece.
Then they are retarded. Impositions in your rental or employment contract aren't anti-libertarian on their face as it's the owner's property or the employer's job and requirements.
This is more then about dogs, this is about having sane rental terms. It is nuts how many places I have looked at that advertise to be "pet friendly" but in the details it is only about cats or dogs. They allow tow dogs, but someone with a tortoise would be automatically rejected.
Some good comments on root cause that highlight how Cali laws lead to this “crisis”. My beef is a “Libertarian” writer arguing for NIMBYism re: dogs. Sad, Christian, really sad. If you put in a little thought you might reached a reasonable conclusion, not this BS.
The market has created a lot of dog-free housing for a reason.
The market has also created a lot of single family home neighborhoods. Yet, Reason cheers when state governments want to destroy that in the name of "liberty".
The market has created single family home neighborhoods? Is "zoning" not a thing where you live?
The market has created single family home neighborhoods? Is “zoning” not a thing where you live?
Zoning happens before people choose to move into a neighborhood.
Since large numbers of people have chosen to move into neighborhoods zoned single family, the market indeed has created single family neighborhoods.
1 Now do "Emotional Support Animals" in California. Tell your landlord your pitbull is an emotional support animal. Spend $100 on the internet to get a letter from a licensed therapist. Avoid pet deposits and pet fees.
2. If society is required to provide housing for the homeless, does the housing also have to accomodate pit bull pets?
Make sure the state sets aside funds for liability insurance as most carriers will not underwrite policies against “dangerous” breeds which at this point seems to be anything larger than a toy poodle, or are landlords supposed to self insure for that.
This proposed law is an absurd idea, damaging the market decisions available to landlords, pet owners and non-pet owners alike. This will, once again, drive supply down and rents up, like virtually everything else California does.
Let's not be surprised. This is the city that doesn't prosecute crime. It's ok to poop on the street. And they only care to clean it up when a communist dictator comes to town.
They don't care about your rights or values
Hey Lib defenders. Tell me how this is Trump's fault
CA budget short fall, but slave reparations are on the table!
"Only last month, Governor Gavin Newsom was warning residents that there could be a budget gap of as much as $38 billion. But when the final figures were released last week, the actual number was an eye-watering $73 billion."
I'm sorry, for a moment I thought this was my property... where I own it and therefore get to make decisions on what I want to do with it.