Nanny State Social Media Mandates Are No Substitute for Effective Parenting
Throughout Republican-run Western states, lawmakers are passing legislation that treats adults as if they are children.

One of the basic tenets of American conservatism—at least it has been until the Make America Great Again movement has re-jiggered the Republican Party—is that individuals rather than government regulators are best suited to manage their own lives and raise their families. There's always been an authoritarian streak in social conservatism, but progressives have traditionally been the ones to promote what we call the Nanny State.
"Whether it is forcing restaurants in England to print calorie counts on menus or banning energy drinks for under-18s, the government is full of ideas about how to protect people from themselves," explained a 2018 BBC article. Although the term is of British origin, such policies are rampant throughout the United States and California in particular. One can think of any number of recent policies that fit the bill, but they all meddle in our lives to "help" or "uplift" us.
Most of these laws—from bans on single-use plastic bags and super-sized soft drinks to limits on trans-fats and e-cigarettes—accomplish little in terms of public health or the environment. There always are endless workarounds to render the edicts pointless. The Nanny State term is ideal, as we envision a hectoring nursemaid intent on depriving us of the simplest pleasures.
But now conservatives are giving leftists a run for the money. Throughout Republican-run Western states, lawmakers are passing legislation that treats adults as if they are children by mandating a variety of mostly pointless regulations in the name of protecting kids from pornography and other internet nastiness. Everyone wants to protect The Children, which makes it difficult to push back—even when such laws impose restrictions on everyone.
The latest frenzy started in Utah, which in 2021 passed a content-filter law that requires that all new cell phones and tablets sold or activated in the state be equipped with a filter that blocks "material that is harmful to minors," as reports note. Because the law is contingent on five other states approving similar measures, lawmakers in other like-minded states have followed suit. The bills vary somewhat, but ultimately they require some form of age verification to disable the filter.
It's obviously hypocritical for supposedly free-market lawmakers to mandate meddlesome business regulations. Device manufacturers don't always know where their products will be sold or activated. Following the model of progressive California, these conservative legislatures are trying to use their muscle to create a de facto nationwide standard. But that's the least of the problems with these proposals, which raise constitutional and privacy concerns.
If they pass, these laws will certainly get tied up in the federal courts. Previous U.S. Supreme Court decisions have made it clear that legislatures must take the least intrusive approach to limiting public access to websites. By foisting content filters on every device, these efforts take a heavy-handed approach. Such laws, as the court found, presume that parents lack the ability to protect their children.
In fact, parents have a nearly endless array of tools. They simply need to enable the filters and voluntary verification processes that are currently offered. The Competitive Enterprise Institute lists dozens of filter blockers from social media companies, Internet Service Providers, gaming companies, web browsers, and operating systems, as well as standalone app controls.
As the free-speech group NetChoice argued in testimony against Utah's bill, such measures only provide a false sense of security, leading parents to believe their children are protected. Even the best filters are imperfect, so parents still need to be involved. The group also notes that it will stifle market innovation by imposing a one-size-fits-all standard.
There's also a serious slippery-slope argument. I can only imagine what lawmakers in California might propose if the courts uphold these laws. How about mandated filters to block supposed "climate-change denialism" or "hate speech"? Conservative nannies should be careful what they wish for, as they might get it ("good and hard" as H.L. Mencken said).
The bills require age verification, which is problematic. These requirements take two forms. Either users enter their own age or the site demands actual ID, such as a driver's license. Any 15-year-old can claim to be 47, so the former is toothless. The latter are burdensome for businesses and creepy for the rest of us. A case can be made for age verification for actual porn sites, but not for every app or website. Do you want to send more personal information to tech companies?
Compounding the silliness, device-filter bills only apply to cellphones and tablets. Kids could still easily access obscene materials on their laptops, desktops, and game consoles. Each child is different and these filters will end up filtering out legitimate information. I can only imagine the difficulties my daughter, who was actively involved in agriculture, would have had accessing information about animal breeding. Then again, we acted like parents—and didn't expect the government to be her nanny.
This column was first published in The Orange County Register.
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Throughout Republican-run Western states, lawmakers are passing legislation that treats adults as if they are children by mandating a variety of mostly pointless regulations in the name of protecting kids from pornography and other internet nastiness.
As pointed out a few weeks ago, this isn't exclusive to red states. Yet Reason has chosen the narrative it is.
https://thehill.com/homenews/3622462-california-passes-bill-requiring-social-media-companies-consider-childrens-mental-health/
This is from 2022. On top of the left also wanting to protect adults with censorship of misinformation and malinformation, focusing on a handful of red states is an oddly chosen narrative.
There’s also a serious slippery-slope argument. I can only imagine what lawmakers in California might propose if the courts uphold these laws.
Lol. God damn Greenhut. A 5s google is all you needed.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/15/business/newsom-california-children-online-safety.html
Isn't California a Democrat-run state? You just claimed the article completely ignored Democrats and only focused on Republicans.
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How did you manage to miss the point? Both CA and several red states have passed "save the children" internet restriction laws but as JesseAz points out, the article above gives the impression that only the red states are doing so.
It is literally in the part I quoted. Imagine if california... who already did it.
Sarc isn't bright.
You don't even need a Google search, just a functioning memory.
This is the same magazine that literally described "Protection For 'Good Samaritan' Blocking and Screening of Offensive Material" as "The 1A of The Internet".
The same magazine that talk rancorously about GOP calls for identification at specific points of contact while near completely ignoring Operation Chokepoint v 1 and v 2 running roughshod over all manner of porn and other industries' 1A liberties... to the point that you'd almost believe the magazine thinks the 1A says, "Government shall make no law abridging the freedom of the press; or porn".
The same magazine that, if a local community or local schools says not even "We don't want LGBTQIA porn on our local shelves." but "Can we at least keep it in the already-designated LGBTQIA section?" invokes cries of "BOOK BAN!" from Nationalist Activist pro-ALA jurinalists like the ones at Reason.
Greenhut's a tard standing at the bottom of the slippery-slope that he routinely denies exists saying, "If you move the slightest bit forward in a right-leaning/wrongthink direction you'll inevitably tumble down an irredeemable slope from which there is no return."
Very good point. The entire ESG movement and operation chokepoint are the slippery slope examples he fears and they already happened lol.
It's just, yet another leftist journalist screed, decrying the impending fall of Western Free Speech to right-leaning Conservatism, retardedly oblivious to the last 60+ yrs. of history.
As far as Conservatives are concerned, that is Operation Chokepoint aside, porn has made relatively unmitigated progress since before Hustler Magazine v. Falwell, to the point that progressive psych professionals theorize about "social contagion" when giving each other sideways glances about an epidemic of minors deciding to cut their genitals off.
Because, without the distraction of the impending twilight before the descent into A Handmaid's Tale, people might (continue to) notice Brandon censoring *all* media while standing with soldiers in front of a federal building lit in red against a black backdrop.
As pointed out a few weeks ago, this isn’t exclusive to red states. Yet Reason has chosen the narrative it is.
Are you crying that the article didn't blame Democrats, or employing the Trump Defense ™ and saying it's ok for Republicans to do it because Democrats did it first?
I expect he is objecting to Greenhut either feigning ignorance about the proposed legislation in California or, worse, being so incompetent as to not be aware of it.
I mean I thought that was clear when I called out his narrative. Sarc isn't the brightest. He just sees enemies he is forced to disagree with no matter the topic. Meh.
One of the basic tenets of American conservatism—at least it has been until the Make America Great Again movement has re-jiggered the Republican Party—is that individuals rather than government regulators are best suited to manage their own lives and raise their families.
Weird. This feels a lot like an atheist leftist explaining to me how the Biblical tale of The Good Samaritan translates to the blocking and screening of people they don't like on the internet.
Like you don't share any common ground with conservatives, would spit on the notion that you do, and are only trying to employ what you think they stand for against them as a convenient cudgel. Like an inhuman psychopath that doesn't know anything except how to wear the skin of actual humans.
" . . . at least it has been until the Make America Great Again movement has re-jiggered the Republican Party . . . "
Stopped reading.
Can anyone recommend a libertarian web site for news?
Most of the commentariat is still libertarian. Most
Because true libertarians despise free trade, despise immigrants, blame everything on Democrats, despise personal liberty that makes them feel icky, and most importantly get outraged at any criticism of Trump or Republicans.
True libertarians don't pick a single supply channel (foreign) for ZERO-Tax while lobbying for a foreign invasion.
The other half is liberaltarian, act blue, and TDS sufferers.
Mises.org
Since when have conservatives been hands off? They have always been poking their noses into private decisions with lame excuses for such actions. Trump has nothing to do with it.
The right is simply reacting to the left trying to separate parents from decisions about their children. Yes this reaction is heavy handed, but that's how conservatives work.
The 1950s called and wants its right-wing puritan paranoia back.
Some of us remember that era, and how liberals packaged their agenda as champions of free speech and other liberties. But for the past few decades the nanny state threat comes much more from the left, with not just heavy hands, but big boots. And smothering hugs.
The 1950s called and wants its right-wing puritan paranoia back.
And, again, from Playboy to Penthouse to Cosmo to Rotten.com to Pornhub; Conservatism writ large has managed to win relatively narrow victories against bestiality, open endorsement of statutory rape, and "15 Helpful Hints On How To Performing Your and Your Boyfriend's At Home Pap Smear And Colonoscopy" in grocery store checkout lanes.
A local community passes a law saying "No visual pornoraphic material in the front windows, hanging on the walls, or on the shelves of the children's section of our local library." and libertine libertards shout "Censorship!" like people refusing to look at their junk or someone else's junk in a place they don't live and a building they don't own any part of is a violation of their God given rights.
How many politicians have gotten into office in the platform, "I want to leave you alone."?
Reproduction, climate change, religious views, etc. Who makes the decisions on what views are harmful regarding any topic?
How would you implement a system that actually satisfies whatever legislators and the appropriate executive make into law? Kids are smart and will circumvent barriers. Would that implentation be effective in achieving the advertised goals of those proposing the legislation?
Ugh, it feels like we get nanny-state from all sides. I don't think this is anything new.
Actually many politicians have been successful with, "I want to leave you alone." It just depends who "you" means. I'm serious. Many people with this sentiment have in mind people like themselves, whom they see as average, common, etc., and have a reservation way back in their minds that excepts weirdos. They hardly ever think about weirdos, so they have no reason to think about this exception most of the time.
I trust me with nuclear weapons but don't want those other fuckers having sporks.
" I can only imagine what lawmakers in California might propose if the courts uphold these laws."
You don't have to imagine. You can research the California proposed bill:
https://sd09.senate.ca.gov/news/20240129-sen-skinner-introduces-landmark-bill-protect-youth-social-media-addiction#:~:text=Sen.%20Skinner%20Introduces%20Landmark%20Bill%20to%20Protect%20Youth%20from%20Social%20Media%20Addiction,-January%2029%2C%202024&text=State%20Sen.%20Nancy%20Skinner%2C%20D,such%20law%20in%20the%20nation.
"State Sen. Nancy Skinner, D-Berkeley, today introduced SB 976, landmark legislation that would protect children from the dangers associated with social media addiction. If enacted, SB 976 would be the first such law in the nation.
Under SB 976, online platforms would be barred from sending an addictive social media feed to a minor without the consent of the youth’s parent or guardian. The groundbreaking bill would also prohibit a social media platform from sending notifications to minors during overnight hours and during the school day without the consent of a parent or guardian.
“Social media companies have designed their platforms to addict users, especially our kids. Countless studies show that once a young person has a social media addiction, they experience higher rates of depression, anxiety, and low self-esteem,” said Sen. Skinner. “We’ve waited long enough for social media companies to act. SB 976 is needed now to establish sensible guardrails so parents can protect their kids from these preventable harms.”"
Plagiarized from the tobacco campaigns of the 80's and 90's.
Don't mess with success.
Aren't most of these activists, left and right, trying to institutionalize protection for whatever they consider sacred? And like most devout religious cultures, they put doctrine ahead of individual choice and freedom. Of course, to sin then does not require physical action but mere intent. To prevent blasphemy they must control the entire society, and while non-believers might be tolerated their values are not.
^^^ A very intelligent post.
Well that's a complete contradiction.
Trump (MAGA) did worse in Utah than any other Red State.
MAGA is precisely the non-nanny sector of the Republican party.
There is NO SUCH THING as "effective parenting!" The only way you know if you were effective as a parent is by hindsight. Almost every year yet another iconic child-rearing instruction manual is debunked. Every child and every parent is different, and no one thing has been proven safe and effective in raising children. You should, of course, pay attention to your children. You should watch them carefully, allow them to make mistakes and, as they demonstrate increasing responsibility and decision-making skills, give them more and more freedom. Then you can only hope for the best and wait to see how it all turns out.
Even with hindsight, you don't know. People with great and effective parents can be rotten.
True, dat ... it's probably why there are no instruction manuals that come with children.
Yeah, after my son came out and the placenta came out I stood there waiting for the manual to come out. It never did. So we just did everything the opposite of what our parents did. He may no be respectful, but he's got confidence and smarts. I doubt he will be on our couch when he's 30. NuCor is wining and dining him to work for them.
Good job. Congrats!
Well, you might not know what things you did right until years later. But there are some immediately obvious wrong ways to parent.
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That's long been the thing about "conservative" populists, or populist "conservatives". They think of themselves as libertarian because they do oppose regulations that they consider as oppressing "normal folk", but they're not against regulations that crack down on "weirdos" or businesses seen as antisocial in some way. People with these opinions are populist because they're taking the side of most people against oppressive elites, and their self-impression is of being libertarian — and indeed they may well be libertarian compared to most or on most issues. They may label themselves "conservative" too, because they see what the common people want as traditionalist and the elites trying to move society away from that.
I've in mind particularly a profile 40 years ago on NPR as one of several week-long explorations of people's opinions in a presidential election year. One of the interviewees, from Texas IIRC, described himself as opposing government interference in people's business and in their personal lives as well. When it came to his details characterization, however, he opposed such things as anti-smoking regulations, apparently because tobacco smoking was something many normal people did, but he also didn't want to see currently disallowed drug consumption to be allowed, apparently because such things as marijuana or cocaine were an alien imposition favored only by weirdos and meddlesome elites. He thought his views were all-round consistent, and indeed they were, just not by the metric we're interested in applying of anyone against any individual, but rather by the effect of meddlesome or revolutionary elites on normal society.
To be fair we should not be talking about anarchy here. Lots of things should be illegal like murder and robbery or there would be no place for government at all. Libertarians set the threshold at intentional acts that initiate force against others that result in loss of life, property, liberty or pursuit of happiness for example. The Texan you described thinks that drugs (or perhaps prostitution or gambling) should be crimes because of the impact they have on the community. In that case the criterion should put a burden of proof on the legislators that there is an overwhelming need for that law. In my opinion – in that case – they should have to prove that making something illegal will significantly reduce the harmful impact to the community after trying to enforce the law. If it can be proved that enforcing said law does more harm than good, the law should not be allowed.
...and the US government only has US Constitutional authority so if it isn't in the enumerated powers only the State can legislate on it.
With the threat of taking away specific kinds of funding if the state dares to not follow the federal line.
The Constitution never authorized State funding either.
So much UN-Constitutional (illegal) operations its hard to keep track of it all 🙂
OK, I've been dying to ask this for awhile.
Define: "Effective Parenting"
As long as your kids don't wind up living with you when they are 30 you did a good job.
Right, but that doesn't address the issues discussed in articles like this - social media, pornography, drugs, etc.
They always talk about free ranging the kids, and that if they engage in "effective parenting" they'll successfully keep out the social media, pornography, drugs, etc. They're like the LGBT that way. LGBT predators are always effectively saying, "If you were a better parent, I wouldn't be able to groom your kids."
So what does "effective parenting" mean then? What must parents do as parents to effectively discourage their children away from all the things that Reason is constantly defending?
Cards on the table - I think libertarians (or whatever is it Reason writers claim to be) are 100% disingenuous when they use terms like "effective parenting."
I think they want porn and drugs and pedophilia and all manner of degeneracy, and when parents kick up a stink their only answer is, "be better parents" - refusing to define what that means, ever, because doing so would undermine their own position in defending said degeneracy.
So - again - what is "effective parenting?" In terms of keeping kids off the degenerate hills that libertarians (or whatever Reason writers are) are ready to die on?
Ok, a bit of background and then my "answer". We only have one child, a son who is now 22 and working on his degree in Metalurgical Engineering at the School of Mines and Texhnology. He's already being wined and dined by industry people since his school has an excellent reputation for turning out great engineers. So by my definition of "successful" we are effective parents. He will not be on our couch when he is 30, most likely.
Now, most conservatives will say I am lying when I say we never laid a hand on him for dicipline purposes. I'm far more evil and developed special punishments to teach him lessons when he disappointed us. These days I just need to give him a disappointed look and he gets off his ass to do what I tell him to do.
We set expectations and boundaries that were within reason for his development and age, stuck to our guns and when he did bad things we created punishments that affected him in the way we needed him affected.
We didn't push him on "goals" set by pediatricians or psychologists. We let him potty train on his own time. My wife stayed home with him until he was three. After that he came with me to work, I owned my own business. He crawled when he felt like it and walked when he decided crawling sucked. Without the pressure of putting him in day care we could do that.
Consistency and delivering on your claims is the most important thing with kids. If you say you are going to take away christmass as a punishment you have to carry through on it to the nasty end. You can't negotiate down once you set a boundary. If you say, "eat all your peas" then you can't go back later and say, "Ok. Eat half of them." If it takes all night the kid eats the damn peas. Yes, it may cut into your own plans but that's how it needs to be. Parenting isn't about life being easy. Want an easy life, get a dog.
Drugs, sex, porn, booze, social media, video games, rock and roll, role playing games, television, radio, cars, horses, the wheel, fire... whatever people are blaming kids going bad on are all excuses. Paying attention to the kids, setting boundaries, enforcing those boundaries and providing a stable consistent home life is what you need to do. They need to be your first priority. Everything else exists so you can focus on them. If you aren't ready to do that, again, get a dog.
I hope that answers your question.
Paying attention to the kids, setting boundaries, enforcing those boundaries and providing a stable consistent home life is what you need to do.
OK, so insofar as drugs, sex, porn, booze, social media, video games, rock and roll, role playing games, television, radio, cars, horses, the wheel, fire are concerned – what specifically are you paying attention for, what specific boundaries are you setting, how specifically are you enforcing those boundaries consistently?
And if they’re good enough for the goose, why not expect/demand the same of the social/cultural American gander? Even on a legal level?
"The Nanny State term is ideal, as we envision a hectoring nursemaid intent on depriving us of the simplest pleasures."
What's with this continuing animosity towards nannies? As an occupation they enable parents to continue working and contributing to society safe in the knowledge that their children are at home in the protection of capable and caring hands. Granted some nannies will be hectoring and abusive to their charges, but it's terribly unfair to tar all nannies with the same brush. The onus is on their employers, the parents, to make sure they hire responsible care givers.