Border Bill Blows Up

Plus: Biden's sagging poll numbers, the Amazon Files, and more...

Under the influence of former President Donald Trump, many elected Republicans are denouncing the bipartisan border security bill. The bill, the details of which were released on Monday, includes $20 billion in new funding for Border Patrol agents, officials to process asylum claims, and other resources for the Department of Homeland Security. Negotiated by Sen. James Lankford (R–Okla.) and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D–N.Y.), the bill would also dole out significant foreign aid to Israel ($14 billion) and Ukraine ($60 billion).

There's just one problem: Trump hates it.

"Only a fool, or a Radical Left Democrat, would vote for this horrendous Border Bill, which only gives Shutdown Authority after 5000 Encounters a day, when we already have the right to CLOSE THE BORDER NOW, which must be done," the former president wrote on Truth Social. Trump's comment refers to a provision of the bill that would allow the federal government to police immigration more strictly—i.e., by rejecting most asylum claimants—once illegal border-crossings exceed a threshold of 5,000 per day.

Denunciation of the bill has been widespread. Rep. Chip Roy (R–Texas) called it a trap "designed by Democrats to boost Biden against Trump." Sen. Ted Cruz (R–Texas) said the bill was a "monstrosity." Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said it showed contempt for the American taxpayers.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell remains staunchly committed to funding Ukraine's defense against Russia, and was supportive of Lankford's efforts. But after reading the room, he decided to come out against the bill after all.

NEWS — McConnell recommended to GOP senators behind closed doors that they BLOCK the border bill on Wednesday, per multiple sources, bc it's clear that most Republicans are preparing to vote no — either because they oppose the bill or want more time. w/ @bresreports @JakeSherman

— Andrew Desiderio (@AndrewDesiderio) February 6, 2024

House Speaker Mike Johnson, a close ally of Trump, has declared the bill dead on arrival. With Trump currently leading President Joe Biden in the polls, Team MAGA sees no reason to give the incumbent any kind of political win.

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Speaking of 2024 polling, things continue to look very bad for Biden. Trump is beating the incumbent by five points in a general election matchup, according to NBC News polling. In a recent video, journalist Steve Kornacki pointed out that Biden's job approval rating is far lower than all other recent presidents who sought re-election. On the question of the economy, voters back Trump 22 points over Biden.

WATCH: President Biden trails former President Trump by 22 points on handling of the economy in the latest NBC News national poll, says @SteveKornacki.@kwelkernbc: "The economy is so striking because jobs are up, inflation is down. Voters aren't giving [Biden] credit for that." pic.twitter.com/KzyB7S4rzR

— Meet the Press (@MeetThePress) February 4, 2024

Most voters—including most Democrats—think Biden is too old to be president. Given widespread dissatisfaction with Biden, even in his own party, one might have expected Democrats, at the very least, to engage in a competitive primary and see if a more formidable general election candidate emerges. But no; the attitude of the Democratic Party, and its top media surrogates is that Biden will be the candidate regardless.

This means that the 2024 matchup is very likely to be Trump vs. Biden—a sequel that absolutely no one is asking for.

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The Biden White House pressured Amazon to take action against books with contrarian COVID-19 messages. That's according to Rep. Jim Jordan (R–Ohio), who announced the "Amazon Files" on X (formerly Twitter). Jordan obtained emails that show White House officials haranguing the online sales giant over "high levels of propaganda and misinformation and disinformation" on the platform.

A week later, on March 9, 2021, Amazon met with the White House.

Internal Amazon documents reveal Amazon's "top talking points" going into the meeting.

One of the key questions was whether the Biden White House wanted books banned or just buried deep in the search results: pic.twitter.com/wnWj9eCyJf

— Rep. Jim Jordan (@Jim_Jordan) February 5, 2024

Amazon pushed back but agreed to meet with White House officials to obtain clarity on whether Team Biden wanted book titles removed outright. Subsequently, Amazon worked to reduce the visibility of books that were deemed conspiratorial by government health advisors.

Sadly, this is nothing new, and mirrors the behaviors of Twitter and Meta in response to similar pressure from government censors. And it wasn't just the White House—the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), the FBI, and many other government organizations communicated with social media companies for the purposes of discouraging disapproved content.

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Scenes from Washington, D.C.: There is increasing mainstream recognition of the fact that crime in the nation's capital is out of control. Semafor is calling it "D.C.'s dark bubble."

Interesting via @semafor pic.twitter.com/I4WBVPoUhH

— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) February 5, 2024

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[Fist of Etiquette]

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[Randy Sax]

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[Mother's Lament]

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[Mickey Rat]

This year he was a Brown.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Nevermore.

[TheReEncogitationer]

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[JesseAz]

Hide yo kids, hide yo tootsie rolls.

[Sometimes a Great Notion]

A Super Bowl champion quarterback.

[HorseConch]

Zach Wilson's Daddy.

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

Isn't that the "Rock Me Amadeus" guy?

[Dillinger]

thank you, Taco for that heart-rendering tribute to Falco ...

[InsaneTrollLogic]

"Alles klar, Herr Kommissar?"

[TheReEncogitationer]

Flaco is Falco's doppelganger in Bizarro World.
🙂
😉

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Who dat?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Is for real no one going to get that joke?

[Dillinger]

the Owl Jolson thing?

[Fist of Etiquette]

...the bill would also dole out significant foreign aid to Israel ($14 billion) and Ukraine ($60 billion).

Ukraine and Israel have borders, too, you know.

[Don't look at me!]

Their borders are more important i guess.

[Mother's Lament]

There are good borders and there are bad borders.

The border between Ukraine and Russia is very very good, the border between the US and Canada is also good and had to remain closed after Covid for a very long time because Canadian plague rats.

The southern border however is evil and racist and should not exist.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

My border protects me. Your border is racist oppression.

[DesigNate]

Been sick all day so I’m late to the party, but that was greatness.

[Fats of Fury]

"There's just one problem: Trump hates it."

Just one? I guess the American citizenry doesn't count.

[Minadin]

I mean, I think that there's more than one problem with the bill, and the top one for me is that it shouldn't be needed at all. But the extra $75 billion in foreign aid, $20 billion for the 'border' (how much was the stupid wall supposed to cost again?) and another $25 billion in miscellaneous spending, for a $120 billion price tag total are all good reasons too. ($120 billion is approximately $815 per taxpayer)

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

And the center-right is bitching about GOP resistance to it because they claim that the asylum law has to change to solve the issue.

Once again, they happily take 10% of what the GOP voters want, in exchange for 90% of what the Dems want. And let's not get it twisted, the real, actual reason the center-right is spitting mad that the bill won't get through the House is because they believe maintaining Ukraine's sovereignty takes precedence over anything else, no matter the issue. They've even stated as much. And if the bill dies, more funding for the Ukraine furnace fire dies, too.

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

Can they really be called "center right"? They seem more like "extreme Ukraine partisans" which is more of a left thing in the current zeitgeist, but also, I don't think many regular Americans who would be considered "right" care about Ukraine even a tenth as much as the border.

I dunno. "Center right" just feels like it makes them sound mainstream, and I don't think they are. It's just the GOPe cunts.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

I'll agree. "Center right" isn't really quite what these GOPe folks are all about. We have another name for them in Illinois, the Democrats in power and their GOPe sycophants: The Combine.

https://chicagoreader.com/blogs/further-thoughts-on-john-kass/

He scolds those guys for operating as a cabal that crosses enemy lines. “What do we call this relationship, again?” he wrote in 2008. “This Illinois custom of quiet sharing of power across party lines for the benefit of a fat connected few?” He went on to say that former U.S. senator Peter Fitzgerald (a Kass favorite) provided him with the answer.

“The Illinois Combine,” Fitzgerald said. “The bipartisan Illinois political combine.”

Kass continued, “I’ve been calling it The Combine for about a decade but hardly see it referenced elsewhere, and I don’t want others to think I’m hoarding the Illinois Combine all to myself. Today, I’m sharing. I’m inviting other colleagues—political writers, editors, broadcasters and any combine suck up professors — to use ‘Illinois Combine’ particularly if they’re having difficulty explaining how two parties can be as one when there’s money on the table.”

Peter Fitzgerald was one of the better US Senators we had in this state, and he got stabbed in the back by the GOPe, part of The Combine.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

I heard Mark Levin go into some of the provisions of the bill. It effectively opens the border further and will provide citizenship to over 11 million illegals over a 7 year period. The whole thing is a huge disaster and should be fought bitterly.

Any Republican that votes for it should be run out of office.

[damikesc]

I like that IF we hit those "thresholds" listed in the bill --- the President can still opt to do nothing.

[Ron]

Just because Trump hates a Bill does not automatically make it a good Bill and unfortunately that has been how Reason and many with TDS have treated everything Trump says. they always take the opposite view even when he is right. Aggreing with Trump on some or many things does not make someone a racist or hater

[A Cynical Asshole]

Aggreing with Trump on some or many things does not make someone a racist or hater

Trump is literallyhitler. Agreeing with Trump means you agree with Hitler. Agreeing with Hitler means you're a literalnazi. - progressive "logic"

[JesseAz]

Wait. But that would make sarc a progressive.

Oh.

I withdraw my objection.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

But, of course, he's so totes not a Democrat. Just ask him.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Trump's quote above explains exactly what is wrong with this bill and I mentioned it yesterday. Whoever wins the election in November, nobody believes that Biden will actually serve an entire 2nd term. This bill codifies the current open border scheme and will prevent future presidents, whoever they may be, from utilizing the tools currently available to manage the border. You don't have to like Trump to oppose this bill for that reason alone.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

It's even worse than just restricting future Presidents, it also apparently restricts what states like Texas can do too. (I linked the story below, but I'll repeat it here.)

https://www.thecentersquare.com/texas/article_98d4b954-c4f7-11ee-af6c-87de153afc32.html

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott and other leaders in Texas strongly oppose a Senate border bill introduced by Democrats, arguing it codifies mass migration into the United States and strips states of their constitutional right to self-defense.

One provision in the bill would prevent judges in federal courts in any state from ruling on lawsuits filed by states, essentially neutering states like Texas, Florida, Louisiana and others whose federal judges have ruled against the Biden administration in lawsuits filed over border-related measures over the past three years.

It states, "The United States District Court for the District of Columbia shall have sole and original jurisdiction to hear challenges, whether constitutional or otherwise, to the validity of this section or any written policy directive, written policy guideline, written procedure, or the implementation thereof."

“Texas stripped of powers in border security bill," Abbott said in response. "This is unacceptable.”

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

One provision in the bill would prevent judges in federal courts in any state from ruling on lawsuits filed by states, essentially neutering states like Texas, Florida, Louisiana and others whose federal judges have ruled against the Biden administration in lawsuits filed over border-related measures over the past three years.

Uh, the bill actually outlaws states from seeking recourse via the federal justice system? How fucking convenient; I'm sure such a policy would only be applied in this particular instance and not any others!

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Yep, any challenges must be heard in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia.

[DesigNate]

Yay Banana Republic!

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

Just because Trump hates a Bill does not automatically make it a good Bill

And this is where the misdirection comes in. "Oh, they're just doing Trump's bidding!" is meant to actually avoid talking about the specifics of the bill, such as the provision that allows the President to ignore the thresholds whenever he feels like it, or that the average figure is still about 4000 more than what Obama called a "crisis level" amount of crossers when he was in office. But dipshits like Patterico want everyone to believe that 4,000 more than that level is suddenly the best immigration deal that's ever been made over the last generation, a "game-changer," as opposed to the same old Gang of 8 smoke and mirrors.

[Ron]

Misdirection it is, they always just mention Trump and no further discussion is required. Even the MSM is now saying they won't report anything Trump says because its Trump

[soldiermedic76]

The more they rely on shit like that the more people see through it. I don't understand why they still continue to do it, when it's getting pretty obvious that it just isn't working. Are they really that stupid? Or is it the result of their own lack of self awareness?

[soldiermedic76]

Or just one of the worst cases of group think ever?

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

TDS is the ultimate group think.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

And HR 2 and HR 29 is right on Schumer's desk. The Senate couldn't have hammered out something on one of those? And notice that the usual suspects on the center-right don't have a single fucking thing to say about them, or the issues that they have with them. They act like those bills don't even exist and continue to squeal like stuck pigs about the Senate bill.

This is the tell that this isn't about actually securing OUR border, it's about securing Israel and Ukraine's. That's why they're so manic about the Senate bill getting through, spewing a bunch of bullshit that this is the supposed best thing they've ever seen in a generation, and whining that not passing the bill is "doing Putin's bidding." They couldn't give a squirt of piss about the US border, and ultimately never did.

[A Cynical Asshole]

I guess the American citizenry doesn’t count.

We haven't counted for a long time.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

If they agree with Trump they don't count. Duh.

[Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf]

Yeah, that was my jaw dropper too. Goddam mean tweets again.

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

There's just one problem: Trump hates it.

I mean, clearly nobody could object to the 2.8M illegals it lets in the door before "enforcement" (which the executive can choose to simply not do) starts. It's all Trump's fault.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

The bill also authorizes low level bureaucrats to make unilateral decisions regarding asylum claims. What could go wrong with that?

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

I can see no way in which that could possibly go awry.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

It also restricts what states can do, thus concentrating power in the hands of the low level bureaucrats.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

And what are the odds those jobs will be held by progressives who are recent college graduates?

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

https://thepostmillennial.com/eagle-pass-border-crossings-drop-from-thousands-per-day-to-3-after-texas-occupies-park

“See? ZerO ILegAl immaGRunts iZ unaCHievaBLe!!!”

[soldiermedic76]

Or all the new taxpayer benefits they'll receive. Including tax payer funded lawyers to help them skirt American laws.

[ErinS]

Thank you!! How was that point missing from this 'Bipartisan' article? What's up with defining the opposition to the bill as Trumpers, and not Libertarians that are opposed to funding never-ending foreign wars?

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

It’s the Reason way. Light, if any, opposition to the democrats. Full condemnation of republicans. Also just like Sarc and the rest of the commie filth here.

[JesseAz]

Shrike has spent the last few weeks pumping Bidenomics up off of GDP. Most of us have pointed out how government spending increases GDP. So how effective was that "taxpayer" investment?

In the past 12 months the federal deficit increased by $1.3 trillion. Yet we only got half that in GDP — about $600 billion. In other words, everything else shrank. It’s even worse for that brave and stunning Q4 — there we got just $300 billion in extra GDP for — wait for it — $834 billion of new federal debt.
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While Q4 GDP rose by $329 billion to $27.939 trillion, a respectable if made-up number, what is much more disturbing is that over the same time period, the U.S. budget deficit rose by more than 50%, or $510 billion. And the cherry on top: The increase in public U.S. debt in the same three-month period was a stunning $834 billion, or 154% more than the increase in GDP. In other words, it now takes $1.55 in budget deficit to generate $1 of growth… and it takes over $2.50 in new debt to generate $1 of GDP growth!

Following the path of Argentina and China. Drive up GDP with government spending.

https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/great-growth-hoax

[HorseConch]

It is trending worse, not better. Same with the jobs numbers that are pretty much low-wage shit jobs and a bunch of government jobs.

[But SkyNet is a Private Company]

And actually 1/3 what they are initially advertised to be for the peanut gallery

[JesseAz]

Yeap. There are two surveys for unemployment numbers. Self surveys by workers and payroll surveys from companies. The gap between the two surveys is the largest it has ever been.

Full time jobs actually decreased. All job growth was in part time jobs.

[HorseConch]

There's no way that it's the result of cooking the books. I'm sure that there's no way they aren't completely factual with their economic numbers.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

And all for foreign born workers.

[Medulla Oblongata]

Plus any announced jobs numbers will get revised downward by 30% or more later, based on the past several releases.

[JesseAz]

Think the final total for revised jobs was 2M jobs revised down after reports last year.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Careful there, Sarc will now accuse you of claiming that Biden caused Argentina's problems.

[JesseAz]

Yeah. Thats a stupid argument he adopted from shrike. Global inflation proves Biden had zero effect on US inflation! Despite the inflation occurring due to similar policies globally.

[sarcasmic]

In the past 12 months the federal deficit increased by $1.3 trillion.

That’s it? Trump managed to add $8 trillion in four years, so that’s $2 trillion a year.

[Idaho-Bob]

But Trump!!!

[sarcasmic]

"Biden is responsible for all the debt, deficits and inflation while he is president!"
"You're aware that Trump added $8 trillion to the deficit and vastly increased the money supply with COVID checks, right?"
"That wasn't his fault! Democrats in Congress did it!"
"So is Congress responsible for Biden's spending and such?"
"No! It's all his fault!"
"Ok, whatever you say."

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Amazing, you just held a conversation with yourself. When was the last time you got yourself committed?

[sarcasmic]

Amazing how you absolve Trump of any blame for anything that happened while he was president, while Biden gets all the blame for everything that happened while he has been in office and for Trump’s last year in office.

It's like Biden has superpowers and can cause things to happen retroactively.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

And when have I (or a lot of others you claim) absolve Trump merely to blame Biden? It’s utterly amazing how you let Trump live totally rent-free in your head, dude.

[sarcasmic]

And when have I (or a lot of others you claim) absolve Trump merely to blame Biden?

The massive spending bills that Trump signed into law added a shitton of cash into the economy, yet you refer to the resulting inflation as Bidenflation. So you're blaming Biden for Trump's last year in office.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Because the larger spending bills were done after Trump left office.

Was Trump perfect? Far from it. Was he better than his predecessor and successor? Yes, but that's not exactly a high bar in either case. Did he have to fight headwinds from entrenched bureaucrats while in office? Yes. Could he have shut his mouth more and stayed off Twitter? Yes (and he might have gotten more accomplished that way). Is he getting unfairly fucked over and railroaded now by people who hate his guts and want to destroy him by any means, even if that means trampling on the rule of law and the Constitution? Yes. Do you have a massive case of TDS, Sarc? We all know that answer is "yes".

[sarcasmic]

Funny thing is I actually agree with everything you said except the TDS part, because I’m not one of Trump’s Deranged Supporters.

I would add that he’s a crybaby who can’t handle losing, that many of his legal troubles are of his own making (classified documents and Georgia), that anything libertarianish he did was incidental, and while he was less-terrible than the presidents before and after, he was still terrible.

[sarcasmic]

Because the larger spending bills were done after Trump left office.

Emergencies become the new baseline. Trump created the new baseline when he signed the emergency COVID spending, just like the Bushes created new baselines with TARP and 9-11 emergency spending.

[sarcasmic]

Oh, and since the narrative claims I can't praise Trump, I have to repeat that I have consistently given him credit for trying to make meaningful cuts in regulations, and for not starting any new wars. Good job Trump.

Can you credit Biden for continuing Trump's economic and trade policies? No? Didn't think so. I think Biden sucks for continuing Trump's shitty economic and trade policies.

[JesseAz]

Funny thing is I actually agree with everything you said except the TDS part, because I’m not one of Trump’s Deranged Supporters.

Shorter sarc: everything you say is correct, but I hate you so much I will attack you and what I agree with constantly while claiming I’m principled.

This is why people think you’re a drunk, ignorant asshole.

[sarcasmic]

I thought we were having a conversation, not attacking. No wonder he stopped responding.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

Sarc, you’re waste of life, and not worth a discussion.

Did you know that?

[Mother's Lament]

Amazing how you blamed Trump for Covid spending but somehow failed to mention that it was the Democratic party that conceived, proposed, wrote and passed those bills.

[R Mac]

Amazing how much you’ve created a fantasy world to live in.

[Mickey Rat]

What Democrat was against that spending? Which Democrats were not insisting that that spending must happen, and indeed, was greatly inadequate?

[JesseAz]

Democrats added 2 more bills of even more spending. Sarc blames trump for that.

[sarcasmic]

Was Trump against the spending? No. He wanted the COVID checks to be $2000, not $600, and wanted his name on the checks.

So your narrative that that spending was purely the fault of Democrats, and not Trump, is a lie.

[Mickey Rat]

I did not say that it was purely Democrats fault. I am saying that the Democrats position on spending is always "more, harder, faster".

If you do not want spending, the Democrats offer no alternative.

[sarcasmic]

Saying Republicans suck too isn’t praise for Democrats.

edit: although I can see how it could be interpreted that way being that the standard Trump defense is Democrats did it first, so saying Democrats are worse is an excuse to be terrible.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

Yet you constantly defend democrats and attack republicans. Your bitch ass also threatened me, then you hid for a months like the gutless pussy you are.

GTFO of here you little bitch.

[EISTAU Gree-Vance]

I think trump wanted more money for John Q. Public and none for failing pension funds and green energy boondoggles in blue states, like the dem spending bills.

But I could be wrong.

[DesigNate]

You are not wrong.

[jimc5499]

When I was in the Navy, we were still getting paper checks. One of the names on them was Ronald Reagan. The President's name is usually on Federal checks.

[Mother's Lament]

Totally not "whataboutism" as Sarckles likes to call comparisons.

[JesseAz]

He has gone fully into the dem protecting idiocy of shrike trying to blame Trump for Covid, ignoring who shut down the economy (states) and who passed a veto proof funding bill (Congress), promoting exclusive blame on Trump. He is terribly broken by his raging TDS.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

Most of that is the emergency COVID spending that was passed with veto proof majorities.

Pour Sarc.

[Jefferson Paul]

I do blame Trump (as well as Congress) for the high levels of spending during his administration. It was high before Covid too, when he had Republican control of the House and Senate for the first two years. (yes, the GOPe were not allied with him and the deep state and bureaucracies were actively working against him, but he didn't seem to make lowering spending a priority.)

Trump wasn't close to a perfect president. That being said, I'll take the good of another Trump administration any day over another Biden term, or a M. Obama/G. Newsome/other Dem administration that would spend even more than Trump could dream of passing through Congress. Even if Trump fails to fulfill most or all of his promises/proposals, at least him being president will put a damper on the massively destructive plans of the Democrats (unfettered illegal immigration, CBDC, even higher spending, stripping away civil rights and liberties for disfavored groups, and more).

[sarcasmic]

I do blame Trump (as well as Congress) for the high levels of spending during his administration.

That's blasphemy, dude.

[JesseAz]

Eric boehm has an article about pre covid spending under Trump. He reluctantly noted 70% of the spending growth was payment on the debt and entitlement spending.

Not sure how you can blame Trump for that.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

“Because it’s Trump!”

-Sarc

[Jefferson Paul]

Even now, Trump is saying he won’t approve any cuts to the biggest entitlements, Soc Sec and Medicare. I understand he’s trying to win, and admitting he is for that would make electoral victory EXTREMELY difficult, but his position is to kick the can down the road, unfortunately. That’s one thing that is a black mark on Trump (and almost all other R and D politicians as well).

I’m being honest about some of Trump’s weaknesses. He does have them. Sarc, on the other hand, will only look at Trump’s weaknesses (and even make some up that aren’t real), and ignore the positives. There might even be a “diagnosis” for his condition, but I struggle to think of the name. Some kind of syndrome, I think.

At the same time, I am 100% going to vote for Trump in Nov because the positives greatly outnumber the negatives. I’ve always scoffed at people (like my father) who say every presidential election is the “most important of our lifetimes.” This one, I tend to agree, is perhaps the most important. If the lawfare against political enemies is allowed to continue, and only in one direction, our republic is over.

[jimc5499]

Last time I checked Social Security wasn't an entitlement.

[Outlaw Josey Wales]

It is though. Categorized as an entitlement expense in the budget.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

And I agree. It's one thing to look at the strengths and the weaknesses of a candidate/President and come to a conclusion. Hell, I voted for Gary Johnson back in 2016 due to such an evaluation. Trump was better than I expected (and damn glad Hillary did not win), and was better than Biden for 2020, so I voted for Trump then. Not because he was great, but because he was better than the alternative. This time around though, I will probably vote for Trump (November is still a ways off) due to the lawfare shit, and the attitudes and actions of the Democrats over the past 4 or 8 years, depending on what they've done.

Sarc only seems to look at the negative, and fails to do the analysis of why this guy is good or bad. Then goes off on the rest of us when we point out the ridiculousness of the lawfare against the man.

[jimc5499]

Yep. If Trump would have vetoed them he would have caught shit from all sides. Then again he caught shit from all sides for anything that he did.

[JesseAz]

Broken w/ TDS is a stupid way to live your life.

[sarcasmic]

Yeah, being one of Trump's Deranged Supporters is indeed a stupid way to live your life.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Imagine being so deranged that you feel the need to whine about anyone calling you out for your own derangement.

[sarcasmic]

Imagine being so enthralled in the cult of personality of a gameshow host turned politician that you dismiss any and all criticism of the man and his policies by calling the critic deranged.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Did you even bother to read anything I wrote above, dude?

[sarcasmic]

Did you even bother to read any of my responses, dude?

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Yes, I did. I found most of them lacking.

[sarcasmic]

The only thing lacking is an intelligent response.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Speak for yourself.

[R Mac]

That’s why they were lacking moron. Lol, nice own goal sarc.

[JesseAz]

Who here has never criticized trump?

You live in a world of false facts and narratives to justify your own drunken behaviors and hate.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

Imagine raving about Trump constantly, while routinely drinking yourself into a stupor and passing out in a pool of your own vomit in the alley behind a dive bar. Al, while being a total lying pussy.

That’s you bitch.

[JesseAz]

Guys, did you know he coined this term??

[R Mac]

“Trump’s Deranged Supporters”

AND SARC COINED IT!

[Gaear Grimsrud]

But the real problem is Biden is not getting enough credit.

[jimc5499]

If Biden got the credit that he deserves, they'd walk him out of the White House in handcuffs.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Trump is beating the incumbent by five points in a general election matchup...

They either stopped oversampling dems or are trying to scare dems into taking the threat to democracy ™ seriously.

[ObviouslyNotSpam]

So many conspiracies to choose from!

[Fist of Etiquette]

Aligned interests.

[JesseAz]

Less than a year ago The Atlantic pushed a Blinken op ed bragging how great Biden’s middle east plan was working. Now forced to admit it is chaos.

https://justthenews.com/world/middle-east/biden-officials-reverse-middle-east-rhetoric-signaling-collapse-admin-policy

[Mother's Lament]

I sometimes still read the Atlantic just to see what the regimes narrative is.

[JesseAz]

The new one is the reformation of Wilson by David Frum.

[Mother's Lament]

His racism and resegregation of the civil service was just a misunderstanding, right?

[JesseAz]

He had good intentions.

[ErinS]

I subscribed to Foreign Affairs in the lead up to the 2020 election. Biden has a eight page essay discussing that he will attack Ukraine once elected. It's all archived for anyone interested.

[Fist of Etiquette]

...Amazon worked to reduce the visibility of books that were deemed conspiratorial by government health advisors.

But I'm sure WaPo remained uncorrupted.

[HorseConch]

They were too busy protecting democracy to worry about silly conspiracy theories.

[Mother's Lament]

“…Amazon worked to reduce the visibility of books that were deemed conspiratorial by government health advisors.”

Public-private partnerships. Just like Europe in 1934. So sophisticated.

Also, my private company. I’m sure there was no pressure. Also, conspiracy theory.

[Mother's Lament]

Also, conspiracy theory.

[Medulla Oblongata]

"As an economic system, fascism is socialism with a capitalist veneer...Where socialism sought totalitarian control of a society’s economic processes through direct state operation of the means of production, fascism sought that control indirectly, through domination of nominally private owners. Where socialism nationalized property explicitly, fascism did so implicitly, by requiring owners to use their property in the “national interest”—that is, as the autocratic authority conceived it. (Nevertheless, a few industries were operated by the state.) Where socialism abolished all market relations outright, fascism left the appearance of market relations while planning all economic activities. Where socialism abolished money and prices, fascism controlled the monetary system and set all prices and wages politically. In doing all this, fascism denatured the marketplace. Entrepreneurship was abolished. State ministries, rather than consumers, determined what was produced and under what conditions. [Econlib]

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Compromise!

[R Mac]

STOP CORRECTLY USING WORDS SARC DOESNT LIKE!

[Jefferson Paul]

Wow. That's perhaps the best explanation that I've heard of the similarities and differences between socialism and fascism.

[MWAocdoc]

Thanks! I think we need to be reminded regularly that words have meanings and that abuse of words by using them out of context with the concepts they represent is dangerous for public debate.

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

So... The United States under FDR during WWII.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

And attempts during the New Deal. A fairly sizable portion of FDR's cabinet admired Mussolini during the 1920s and 1930s up until Mussolini invaded Ethiopia (and even then, some still admired his policies up until 1941).

[Jerry B.]

So, good book banning.

[Rev Arthur L kuckland]

But gender queer is front and center

[Mickey Rat]

And Soave looks at this jawboning censorship more in sadness than in anger.

[JesseAz]

Newly released Mayorkas memo released by DHS shows the current border chaos was always the plan.

https://scnr.com/article/memo-confirms-dhs-secretary-mayorkas-designed-bidens-open-borders-policy_bc1228c2c44d11ee9c930242ac1c0002

[HorseConch]

I'm sure that's a deepfake. No way would he tell them to let everyone in.

[Mother's Lament]

B-b-b-but that's a conspiracy theory.

[A Cynical Asshole]

The four step process strikes again:

1. "That's just a 'right wing' conspiracy theory!"
2. "OK, it's happening but not as much as those 'right wing nutjobs' are claiming!"
3. "OK, OK. It is happening and as much as those 'right wing nutjobs' are claiming, but it's actually a good thing because [reasons]!"
4. "You're still on about that? That's old news! Look! [New Shiny Object]!"

I guess we're at step 2.

[Mother's Lament]

"It’s actually a good thing" applies after every step. Not just step three.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Then there's Step 5: "fuck you, racist!"

[Idaho-Bob]

They act with impunity. Because they can.

[ObviouslyNotSpam]

Nice selective quoting going on. Don't go read the memo for yourself, just let Uncle Jesse show you his [favorite] parts!

The source you linked to [innocently] omitted the previous paragraph of the memo, which noted that there are an estimated 11 million removable noncitizens in the US and that [DHS] does not have the resources to apprehend and remove all of them. Accordingly, DHS must necessarily exercise its discretion and prioritize which noncitizens to remove.

And then it omitted the language after it, which also emphasized the need to exercise discretion. [Another innocent mistake, surely!]

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

The source you linked to [innocently] omitted the previous paragraph of the memo, which noted that there are an estimated 11 million removable noncitizens in the US and that [DHS] does not have the resources to apprehend and remove all of them.

Funny how this didn't come up in testimony to Congress, followed by a specific request for resources to actually remove them.

And then it omitted the language after it, which also emphasized the need to exercise discretion.

Yes, because indulging in glittering generalities in the same paragraph like, "Justice and our country's well-being require it," certainly doesn't show any indication of pathological altruism at work. Talk about selective omissions!

[JesseAz]

This is the same leftist argument that seems popular lately.

Since they can't remove all of them, they can be excused for not really removing any of them.

[ObviouslyNotSpam]

And that's what excuses the "selective" quotation, apparently.

[MWAocdoc]

And with that you STILL have not cited ANY examples of that "argument" anywhere! It's a STRAW MAN to prop up your failed narrative. In any other context it would seem stupid, so you have to pretend that someone's even more stupid argument is even more stupid than yours.

[JesseAz]

Lol. Jeff and sarc have both used the argument.

What point are you trying to defend here? Is this a response to be blowing up your open border arguments with actual citations of costs last week?

What argument in support of the current border situation do you want to make? Ill refute whatever you want. You seem ignorant to reality regarding borders such as your claims on welfare use last week.

You try to mix in the idea of "they shouldn't receive welfare" while ignoring they do. You can't hide what is happening behind an ideal that doesn't exist and claim to be correct on the issue.

I'm honestly curious what drove this response as everyone knows who I'm referring to. Jeff literally made the argument. So did sarc.

I mean even Emma mada fucking article with that assertion.

[R Mac]

I think the problem with some open border zealots is that they’re so entrenched in their beliefs that they can’t accept how much worse the problem has gotten since Biden took office.

We’re no longer just dealing with some Mexicans sneaking across to pick veggies under the table, we’re dealing with hordes of young men from Africa, the Middle East, and China. But they refuse to acknowledge the difference because it shatters their narrative.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

Where ARE Pedo Jeffy and Pluggo? Are they busy jacking each other off to child rape videos again?

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Pluggo's been busy below, and he brought his minstrel show with him.

[JesseAz]

Whats hilarious to me is that I actually agree with full migration absent a welfare state. I'm just rational and demand to the end of the welfare state prior for open border allowance. That is because taxes are already theft from individuals. So giving that money to someone else in a transfer is a violation.

People like the doc above claim they also want open borders with no welfare, but actively support open borders now despite the costs which means they are approving the current taxes paying for it.

They think travel rights of non citizens trump the right against theft of citizens.

[R Mac]

The link he posted has the actual memo, midwit.

[ObviouslyNotSpam]

It does, but don't read it! Read the misleading interpretation kindly provided by the people who aren't at all interested in manipulating you. (You do trust Jesse, don't you?)

[R Mac]

Sarc level stupid.

[JesseAz]

Yeah. I love the idiots dont see the dig in tab that has links to all source documents. One of the reasons I like that site.

[Commenter_XY]

Why isn't that fucker impeached yet? = Mayorkas

Impeach the stupid fuck and get it over with. Team D won't do dick to remove him anyway.

[Fist of Etiquette]

...many other government organizations communicated with social media companies for the purposes of discouraging disapproved content.

How this doesn't call everything into question is beyond me.

[Social Justice is neither]

I believe the standard defense is they're private companies that can do for the government what the government is forbidden so long as they're acting for Democrats and the threats can be minimized or waved away by media shills like Robby.

[Medulla Oblongata]

Repeating a snippet from above: "fascism did so implicitly, by requiring owners to use their property in the “national interest”—that is, as the autocratic authority conceived it.,

[Fist of Etiquette]

There is increasing mainstream recognition of the fact that crime in the nation's capital is out of control.

And that's just on Capitol Hill. Am I right, people?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Dartmouth College is bringing back the SAT.

Coded, however, to weed out the Asians.

[Rev Arthur L kuckland]

Q1 is it a bad idea to drive the wrong way in angled parking?

[Randy Sax]

The oral portion of the exam; Correctly pronounce the word "Celery".

[InsaneTrollLogic]

"Flied lice! It is fried rice, you plick!"

[Rev Arthur L kuckland]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GHS_GQLgqtM

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

You know who is good at oral?

[InsaneTrollLogic]

B?

[Jefferson Paul]

Kamala?

[Commenter_XY]

Debbie, who did Dallas?

[Jerry B.]

Based on a survey of cars parked at a local mall, no.

[JesseAz]

Under the influence of former President Donald Trump, many elected Republicans are denouncing the bipartisan border security bill.

Cmon robby. This is your thesis? Criticism of the bill started before a single statement regarding it by Trump. This is the narrative the NYT and Schumer are pushing though.

The bill is terrible regardless of what Trump says. It legalizes the current border chaos. It even disallows future administration enforcement by forcing suits to be in D.C. which will be used by leftist orgs to stop future administrations for actually trying to enforce the border.

The bill is bad on its own. But your first impulse is to invoke Trump.

[JesseAz]

And now finishing the article. It gets even worse.

Did your ownership tell you to push this narrative instead of discussing the actual contents of the bill?

[A Cynical Asshole]

Trump says it's bad, therefore it's bad. No more thought needed (or allowed).

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

And if I think it's bad, I agree with Trump. Therefore I am bad.

[Rev Arthur L kuckland]

The bill literally says it can be undone if Biden says the border isn't an emergency. You know, the same as he did on day 1 in office

[JesseAz]

But that isn't the worst part. As mentioned if Biden loses and Trump says lock it down, any pro immigration agency can sue, it is forced into the DC Circuit, corrupt judges scream animus, and enforcement is removed. It is a false enforcement clause in the bill to give left everything they want.

The DC clause is the most insidious part of the bill allowing a corrupt court to over rule the executive.

Whats also funny is the enforcement of the mentioned "shut down" border still requires up to 1400 migrants a day allowed through, more than what even Obama stated was unsustainable.

[Don't look at me!]

Expect more bills loaded with things to inhibit the inevitable trump administration.

[Rev Arthur L kuckland]

There should be a senator that adds an amendment legalizing the killing of progressives in every law

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

I would vote for that candidate as many times as I could get mail-in ballots to support. Whatever state they were from. I could be a Transindianan or whatever...

[Zeb]

I'm much less of a border hawk than many here, but this still sounds insane and bizarre to me. Doesn't the law already say that no one should be crossing illegally (kind of by definition of "illegally")? Why not say "if you want to claim asylum, go to an official border crossing. Otherwise you get thrown back.

[R Mac]

Because the asylum claims are a farce, like the rest of this issue.

[sarcasmic]

Why are you criticizing something that isn’t law? You said that wasn't allowed.

[Mother's Lament]

Fishing without any bait again I see.

[JesseAz]

Thats not what I said retard. My comment about yesterday was about a bill still being written retard. This bill in fact has been submitted to Congress. It is public.

How dishonest can you become?

[sarcasmic]

When you attacked the author for talking about DeSantis, you said there were laws on the books that were more important.

Do you ever get tired of carrying those goalposts around?

[JesseAz]

I see your reading comprehension levels are still terrible. Lol.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

Fuck off you retarded pussy.

[VinniUSMC]

sarc's never even been in the same ballpark as his goalposts.

[R Mac]

Hey look, sarc’s being retarded again.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

And at 10, dog bites man.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

Cmon robby. This is your thesis? Criticism of the bill started before a single statement regarding it by Trump. This is the narrative the NYT and Schumer are pushing though.

It's the same narrative the "moderates" and center-right are notably pushing, too, and it's not because they actually give a shit about border security--it's because they're terrified we won't be shoveling additional money into the Ukraine war furnace, which is their real, actual priority here, and why they're throwing such a fit over GOP resistance to it. "Just give in on this one bill so we can keep funding Ukrainian pensions and bribes for Kiev's elite, gaiz! It's got 10% of what you're looking for, you should be ecstatic that you even get that much!"

What a bunch of fucking toolbags.

[Fist of Etiquette]

King Charles III has been diagnosed with cancer.

How did he manage an NHS appointment?

[Mother's Lament]

He flew to Spain like everyone else.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Israel's military success against Hamas is described as "very limited so far" by a former CENTCOM general.

Worst. Genocide. Ever.

[Mother's Lament]

A hundred billion dead according to the Misek/mtrueman pair.

[Sevo]

Didn't they both hire some guy name of Goebles?

[Commenter_XY]

Just means that killing off every Hamas member will take a little longer. Ok.

[Yuno Hoo]

Semafor is calling it "D.C.'s dark bubble."

Well, until they get sued for making racist slurs.

[JesseAz]

The Biden White House pressured Amazon to take action against books with contrarian COVID-19 messages.

While I am glad you've moved past the narrative of muh private companies and admit to government pressure, much of this information was known when you were defending the censorship. Examples were available. Try being at the forefront of these issues instead speaking up after the bad acts.

[Sometimes a Great Notion]

Some of those examples took place under the Trump admin, like Steven Crowder starting in 2019. So was it the Trump Admin or private companies back then?

[JesseAz]

Reason defended the censorship for a few years screaming Twitter and SV could do whatever they wanted, they were private, while ignoring they were in collusion with the government. Need to remember there was an active Resistance inside the executive working against Trump. The NYT and WaPo published glowing articles of federal workers undermining Trump and using federal resources to go after conservatives.

If you can find me an example of Trump condoning this censorship I would happily change my mind.

[Sometimes a Great Notion]

I don't think Trump admin did anything of the sort. But alot of private companies defense from Reason came under his admin and I've seen no evidence that refutes that, the rest is just speculation.

My view is, the Biden admin saw what silicon valley was capable of doing and wanted to get in on the action. That is the problem, not youtube or twitter doing it on there own.

[JesseAz]

Pretty sure the Twitter files show the CDC and FBI working with SV in 2019 without the direction to do so by Trump.

[ObviouslyNotSpam]

(Trump's incompetence in getting the people working for him to follow his orders is just another reason to give him a second chance.)

[R Mac]

More sarc level stupidity. Are you a sarc sock or just a fan?

[But SkyNet is a Private Company]

Are we going to do away with Civil Sevice and go back to a Jacksonian Spoils System?

Did Trump appoint Vindman? Strzok? Comey?

[DesigNate]

I appreciate your agreeing that the bureaucracy has got to go.

[Mother's Lament]

"But alot of private companies defense from Reason came under his admin and I’ve seen no evidence that refutes that, the rest is just speculation."

What do you mean here? Like the Democrats and "the resistance" in the government started making censorship requests while Trump was still in office and then formalized them when they came into power?

[Sometimes a Great Notion]

No I think, the progressive who work at youtube on their own canceled people like Steven Crowder back under Trump. Then the Biden admin came in and got in on the action and started demanding companies take action against their political rivals or people who they disagreed with.

So back in 2019 when Reason said private companies they were essentially correct and then changed that view once Biden admin came in and started doing it themselves.

[JesseAz]

Twitter files shows the government collusion in 2019.

[Mother's Lament]

True, the FBI was working against that administration with the requests though.

[ObviouslyNotSpam]

(Look, governing is hard. Trump certainly deserves another chance to maybe get the executive agencies to kinda do more of the things he wants them to do. It's only fair!)

[Truthfulness]

Why are you blaming Trump for something the FBI did? There's a difference between acting on behalf of the Trump administration and acting on behalf of the DNC. The companies did the latter while Trump was in office.

[Mother's Lament]

Gotcha.

"So back in 2019 when Reason said private companies they were essentially correct and then changed that view once Biden admin came in and started doing it themselves."

I know in 2021 and into 2022 the refrain amongst the Reasonistas was still "My private company" despite evidence to the contrary.
It wasn't until Musk opened the Twitter files that they suddenly became silent on the issue (Robby being the lone exception).

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Correct. Reason and Robby were clueless until the right "journalists" smeared it all over their faces.

[Mike Parsons]

I was told Republicans are banning books

[R Mac]

Not having porn in school is banning books. Coercing the largest book distributor to hide wrongthink is ok.

[Mike Parsons]

Orwellian shit

[A Thinking Mind]

Under the influence of former President Donald Trump, many elected Republicans are denouncing the bipartisan border security bill.

Because there’s no reason they’d be against it otherwise, it’s just Trump’s wicked influence controlling them.

[Ajsloss]

Exactly. Why does he need to be president when he can just control everything with influence?

[Don't look at me!]

Like Obama is doing?

[Mother's Lament]

"Trump’s wicked influence controlling them."

The new faith still has a devil.

[Idaho-Bob]

Beat me to it.

Evil incarnate.

[Social Justice is neither]

So the problem with the bill is that Trump likes it, not that it is a monstrosity that fails to limit immigration in any meaningful way while shoveling money at foreign wars? Fuck off you leftist cunt.

Oh, and the whining about not giving dear leader a win was a nice touch from a POS that has been all in on the so iet show trials in Congress and DC but quails a bit at the severity of the political persecution.

[A Thinking Mind]

Biden is declining to do a Super Bowl interview yet again.

Good. We don’t need politics involved in sporting events.

[Ajsloss]

But it'd be neat to see him try sniffing Taylor Swift's hair. His secret service vs. her secret service.

[A Cynical Asshole]

My money's on her private security.

Also, I'd love to see Travis Kelce beat the shit out of him for it.

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

*LMAO!*

[Sometimes a Great Notion]

Yup and I hope the winners don't go to the White House.

[Naime Bond]

Biden wanted to do it but it turns out he had another meeting scheduled - lunch with Francois Mitterrand.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Like I said before, that must've been one hell of a seance.

[Spiritus Mundi]

There's just one problem: Trump hates it.

That is it? The one and only problem? That Trump hates it? JFC, bring back Liz.

[JesseAz]

This could be Robbies worst take ever.

[Social Justice is neither]

I don’t know, the CBF accusations getting more credible as more deranged leftists came out with newly unearthed, unhinged accusations will always be up there. And that one was after he had supposedly seen the error of his ways with the Rolling Stone “A Rape on Campus” fiasco and it’s fabricated narrative.

[JesseAz]

I think I blocked out how many times Robby called her accusations credible. You could be right.

[But SkyNet is a Private Company]

Just that it institutionalizes 2.5 million illegals per year. And takes away any court review outside of DC or any recourse for the states. And is really about funding more graft and money laundering thru Ukraine.

[Sandra (formerly OBL)]

"On the question of the economy, voters back Trump 22 points over Biden."

LOL

Someone's multi-year gaslighting campaign isn't working. 🙂

#NeedsMoreRIGCOUNT

[JesseAz]

Taylor Swift Ticket Index!!!!!

[Don't look at me!]

It’s all about the price of spittin tobacky and cheesy poofs.

[Sandra (formerly OBL)]

Indeed. Only junk food addicts with no money are dissatisfied with #Bidenomics.

Definitely no complaints from financially secure households who still feel the sting of 2022.

#ThisIsWhatButtplugActuallyBelieves

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Leaves me wondering why Jeffy seemingly supports Dementia Joe.

[R Mac]

His mom buys his cheesy poofs.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

That might explain a lot.

[R Mac]

Actual video footage of Fat Jeffy sending his mom to get him more cheesy poofs:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dI_sFFcssw8&pp=ygUZZXJpYyBjYXJ0bWFuIGNoZWVzeSBwb29mcw%3D%3D

[Jefferson Paul]

God I love South Park!

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Jeffy is so the Cartman of the Reason commentariat.

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

There's a reason I call him Cartman Retarded Imperialist.

[A Cynical Asshole]

...

This means that the 2024 matchup is very likely to be Trump vs. Biden—a sequel that absolutely no one is asking for.

They say politics is downstream from culture, and most Hollywood movies are sequels that no one is asking for, so this makes sense.

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

Or remakes.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

People do indeed get the government they deserve.

But what did I do to deserve the people I live with?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis has admitted to being in a relationship with Nathan Wade, whom she appointed to be the special prosecutor in Trump's election interference case.

Trump's foes are own-goaling at the same rate he is.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

Wade was certainly going balls deep into the net.

[HorseConch]

They are all at a higher level than he is. We are 8 years into taking Trump down, and I've yet to see a lesser scumbag than him on the other side of it.

[DesigNate]

Imagine going after one man for 8 years and having to continue to manufacture or twist the law to get at him.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Biden is declining to do a Super Bowl interview yet again.

Senility has its advantages.

[Quicktown Brix]

Yes, it does.

[Quicktown Brix]

Yeah, it does.

[Quicktown Brix]

I know it does.

[R Mac]

What do you think about it?

[Quicktown Brix]

Where's Jackie?

[Ajsloss]

Love this.

[Don't look at me!]

I can’t remember if it does or not.

[Dillinger]

isn't this National Review?

[Jefferson Paul]

Where's Hank Phillips? He could actually tell us his experience with it.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

In an assisted living facility for seniors with dementia, sedated and shitting his diapers?

[Jefferson Paul]

And still posting Biden-like things under his new handle, Libertarian Translator or TransLibertarian or something like that.

[A Cynical Asshole]

...

For the Biden Admin, letting Americans think for themselves was unacceptable.

Most of the elites, who are Biden's base, believe Americans have "too much individual freedom," so this really shouldn't be a surprise to anyone anymore.

[Medulla Oblongata]

“When people have the freedom to choose, they choose wrong, every single time.”
― Lois Lowry, The Giver

WSJ: "The author of 'The Giver,' a wildly popular dystopian novel, imagines a community with no war, racism or gender roles. The result: a living hell.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

People with too much freedom can ignore elites. Then why bother striving for elite status?

[Michael Ejercito]

They even abandoned "My Body, My Choice".

https://reason.com/2021/09/10/the-biden-administrations-emergency-vaccine-mandate-may-be-vulnerable-to-legal-challenges/

That was Jacob Sullum writing about this!

[Medulla Oblongata]

Maybe a few good things in the border-control parts of the bill, but WAY too many poison-pill items. Except they're not really poison-pills, they're turds in the punchbowl placed there by Dems.

[Jefferson Paul]

Honest question: what are the good parts? It seems every single part of it just enshrines into law what the Biden admin is doing now. Even worse, the parts about shutting down the border after 5-8k per day say that Biden can choose to shut it down. He doesn't even have to do so, even at rates above what's listed. Then all disputes get settled by the DC District court (not an accident this court was chosen). More money for CBP and ICE, not to stop the "invasion," but to process "asylum" claims faster (this means even more catch and release into the country). This law, if passed, would also make it much harder for Trump to curtain the flood of illegals, if he were elected in Nov.

What are the good parts?

[Jefferson Paul]

*curtail, not curtain

[Quicktown Brix]

One thing I read is in the bill that’s a good thing (the only good thing, as I recall) was automatic work permits for those that pass initial asylum screenings.

Migrants should support themselves instead of needing welfare. On the other hand, this could be seen as an incentive for migrants, but I still feel this is a net good.

[JesseAz]

Question for you QB.

Currently illegals dont fall under ACA requirements for emplpyee Healthcare costs. This by default makes the illegal cheaper compared to a citizen at the outset. I am fairly confident that migrants on work permits also don't count to other taxes requires for employment such as FICA.

So if an illegal immigrant displaces a legal immigrant due to cheaper employment costs, do you count the costs of the displace employee as a cost of illegal immigration?

[Quicktown Brix]

Yes I think the displaced worker is a cost of illegal immigration until that person finds new employment. However, the working migrant also brings value.

My preference would be any taxes on a citizen or legal immigrant should be applied to asylum migrants, but what those taxes should be is a topic of its own.

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

The one bit that I saw (which may have been bullshit spin) was that people applying for asylum would have to do so outside of the country. I'd call that a win, but coupled with the fact that they still want to let millions in illegally before they even consider enforcing the border really outweighs it.

[Medulla Oblongata]

"inflation is down"

No. It's lower than it was at the peak under Biden, but it's still higher than it was under Trump.
 
On the news this morning, Black guys in barbershop: “We’re broke under Biden and we weren’t under Trump.”

[HorseConch]

Inflation being down is about as disingenuous talking point imaginable. It's like saying you are still being ass raped, but he is only going a little bit faster than he was, not way faster like he could be.

[Jefferson Paul]

Similar to when people talk about how a bill would cut spending. It doesn't cut spending, it just cuts the rate of growth of spending.

Though that's largely a moot issue, as when was the last time a bill became law that even cut the rate of spending, much less actually cut spending?

[Senater Tim Scott]

Did anyone notice that my Black ass dropped out of the election?

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Nice try, Shrike. Your troll was just fucking stupid.

[Medulla Oblongata]

Pluggo sock.

[JesseAz]

Can't even spell Senator right shrike.

[A Cynical Asshole]

He really is a special kind of retard.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Soros obviously isn't sending his best here.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

No, they are busy hammering away at the WSJ.

[Mother's Lament]

He's pulling his 'minstrel speak' schtick again. Plug is truly racist.

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2]

Did anyone notice that my Black ass dropped out of the election?

We can't miss you when you won't go away.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Talking to yourself again, Shrike?

[Sevo]

turd lies. That's not a surprise to anyone who reads his constant stream of bullshit.
But it's becoming obvious that as Misek is too stupid to understand the concepts of "evidence" or "relevance", the concept of "honesty" is simply beyond turd's ken.

[R Mac]

What is it about leftists having a terrible sense of humor? I bet you really cracked yourself with this, didn’t you pedo?

[Commenter_XY]

Not racist at all. Nope.

SPB2, be better.

[Medulla Oblongata]

"The Biden White House pressured Amazon to take action against books with contrarian COVID-19 messages."

During the panic of 2020, I got put in Facebook jail for writing a blurb on my timeline about a book I read, written BEFORE COVID hit, basically a post-apocalyptic series in which the primary cause of the all the bad stuff was a "bat-flu" that was engineered and released with the sole purpose of using the "vaccine" to weed out "undesirables" and then implement a new world order...oh, and the vaccine for "normals" included tracer chips.

Of course it all got out of hand, mutated, killed 90+% of the population of the world, the main protagonist's billionaire father was one of the plotters, etc. etc.

But writing all that got me put into Facebook jail on a series of COVID-related violations.

[Idaho-Bob]

I was in Facebook jail for posting a guy vaping while wearing a rag and then wearing a dust mask. Of course, the vapor poured out around the edges and through the mask itself. Covid wasn't even mentioned in the video.

Thankfully, Covid policies prompted me to end my Facebook account.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

Which book was that? It actually sounds pretty interesting.

[Medulla Oblongata]

"Rising Storm" by Kyla Stone

Not really that good at all. Solidly in the "YA Fiction" genre, and hence not subtle about anything. I'm not in the habit of reading YA fiction, but read it mostly because it came up in my Kindle Unlimited feed after I read some other Kindle Unlimited post-apocalyptic books. I consume books on Kindle Unlimited pretty voraciously, but it has some misses in the "Books similar..." recommendations.

[Randy Sax]

Have you read "A boy and his dog"? It's a Harlan Ellison novella I really enjoyed in that genre.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Interestingly, that takes place this year.

[Randy Sax]

Everyone thinks it's a Mad Max ripoff, but 1969 was before anything Mad Max.

[JesseAz]

Man. I've started some really terrible books I've ended before the first chapter with those recommendations on unlimited.

[Medulla Oblongata]

So have I. This was not bad enough to warrant summary execution, but neither did it do anything to warrant me recommending it to anyone. Kindle Unlimited sure makes it easy to decide to "walk away".

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

What's the book?

[Senater Tim Scott]

“ Ron DeSantis Supports Legislation Banning Lab-Grown Meat”

Who can blame slurpee-shamer and fellow svelte Black man, Ron DeSantis, for running the campaign he did? He’s very busy making sure the books kids read don’t have any naughty bits and now what people put in their mouth. He’s very busy with these things.

[Mother's Lament]

Go be racist somewhere else, Plug. Maybe you, Misek, Jfree and mtrueman can find a cozy spot where you can beat each other off by whining about blacks and Jews.

[VinniUSMC]

Stupid, pathetic, leftist, wannabe-troll.

[JFree]

This means that the 2024 matchup is very likely to be Trump vs. Biden—a sequel that absolutely no one is asking for.

The only thing that interests me is what comes after these two aging clowns? They don't seem like the sort who will pick good successors. There is pretty much nothing within either party that looks like a generational shift. Not that I really think this gerontocracy ends in some peaceful transition of power. Nor do its followers believe in or accept that.

[sarcasmic]

"May you live in interesting times." - Chinese curse

[Moderation4ever]

Well President Biden has a good backup in Kamala Harris. There is no reason to think that VP Harris could not step into the role easily. I am not suggesting she would be great, but she would be competent. The fact is that the Republican leading in the nomination right now is incompetent and there no reason that he will not pick another incompetent to be his VP. Trump will have a hard time because his narcissism will not allow him to pick a VP that could be better than him and as besting him is so easy there is not much choice.

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

"Well President Biden has a good backup in Kamala Harris."

This is sarcasm?

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

I'm pretty confident the current President Biden was already loaded from a corrupted backup.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Mod4? Nope.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

This Kamala Harris?

"I love Venn diagrams," the vice president said at a White House event Thursday. "Always ask, 'Is there a Veen diagram for this?' I'm telling you, it's fascinating when you do. So, Venn diagram, those three circles, right?"

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2]

Venn diagrams are kind of cool.

In the 5th grade.

[Sevo]

turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

[A Cynical Asshole]

You'd sound like an idiot too if your speech writer was a 6 year old.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

How was the blow job?

[But SkyNet is a Private Company]

M4is a parody troll account?
I don’t think anybody inside the D Party even thinks this

[Sevo]

Nobody told that fucking ignoramus; you expect him to figure it out on his own?

[JesseAz]

I'm convinced it is parody. But then again leftists truly are as delusional as him.

[Jefferson Paul]

Have you seen the newest video from James O’Keefe? He’s on a “date” with a White House insider who goes on to talk about how the Biden admin wants to get rid of Kamala, but the blowback from the black community will be too much to overcome, so they are stuck with her. Not new information, other than it coming from someone in the administration.

Pretty funny that O’Keefe can still “sting” people, especially since in this video, his only disguise is blond highlights in his hair and a pair of glasses (Clark Kent’s “effective” disguise from Superman).

[Commenter_XY]

And outed him, too. LOL.

[Jefferson Paul]

If the people around that guy didn't already know he was gay, then they were oblivious.

[R Mac]

Parody.

[Commenter_XY]

Kamala is competent at what...fucking with her heels up? Wiping mouth afterward? You want to tell us what she is so good at? Or do we ask Willie?

Because she can't speak worth a shit, could not spell AI (let alone manage that policy), and can't manage her way out of an open paper bag. She is a national embarrassment.

[Its_Not_Inevitable]

"Well President Biden has a good backup in Kamala Harris." Actually laughed out loud and stopped right there.

[Fats of Fury]

AOC will be of age and I'm sure the GOPe can dig up another Bush.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

Nah, Jeb's kid got smoked in a primary in Texas and hasn't been seen since. That family's name is effectively dead in politics now unless they formally switch to being Democrats.

[Mother's Lament]

"unless they formally switch to being Democrats."

Probably more likely than we think. Didn't a bunch of them vote for Hilary?

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

No, in 2016 they mostly abstained or voted for write-ins. In 2020 they started the actual re-alignment over to the Democrats.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

There is pretty much nothing within either party that looks like a generational shift.

Seriously? Just because Biden and Trump are taking up all the space doesn't mean there won't be jockeying for their positions once they're gone. Nature abhors a vaccum, after all.

Like I said yesterday, the Dems are obviously going to put Newsom as the front-runner. There will be other favored politicians like Pritzker, Whitmer, Hobbs, and Bashear. Fringe candidates like AOC and Dean Phillips could get more traction. Neocon migrants to the party like Kinzinger or Cheney could throw their hats in; Cheney in particular clearly has a Hillary-level thirst for political power and will see the Dems as her best shot.

On the GOP side, DeSantis, Kemp, Youngkin, Rubio, Cruz, Rand Paul, and maybe some older guard types like Sununu still have media exposure, and who knows who will actually emerge in the next four years. Remember, Bill Clinton was left for dead multiple times, from his Speech That Wouldn't End at the 1988 convention to his early bimbo explosions in 1992, and still managed to grab the brass ring due to the very unique political and socio-economic circumstances of the time that were trending away from 1980s Reaganism.

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

Maybe we'll get lucky and someone will gap Newsom before we have to be subjected to that campaign.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

What about our Governor McDreamy?

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

Oh, yeah, I did mention Polis, as well as Buttigieg yesterday.

[Mother's Lament]

"The Dems are obviously going to put Newsom as the front-runner."

With the mess California is in, that will be a hard sell for the rest of the country. Committed Democrats, sure, but nobody else.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Newsom is probably on the same level as Pritzker, only in better physical shape.

[R Mac]

When Whitmer gets on the national stage she’ll be as popular as Hillary. The only reason she won reelection here was because republicans put up a candidate that was against abortion completely, even in cases of rape and incest, and just about every female college student got out and voted.

[HorseConch]

The women who have a real chance on the national stage are typically right-leaning and thus despised by democrats worse than minorities. Palin, Tulsi, Noem, MTG, Boebert, and others of the kind that don't run around pretending to be wonderful would be able to have traction if they weren't demolished by the pro-woman crowd.

[Senater Tim Scott]

It warms this Black man’s conservative heart that libertarians love the Border Patrol just as much as I love my slave owner, Donald Trump. My Black ass is proud to bend over for that man any time.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Go back to being SPB2, Shrike. You suck at trolling.

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

If it's spbp2, it's a sock. Whoever it is though, it's someone I already had muted.

[Outlaw Josey Wales]

I think it's the troll from awhile ago. He used to do the 'I'm a gay, black conservative man like Caitlyn Jenner, blah, blah blah...' schtick and then roll into a lame parody of the subject he was commenting on. I don't remember his call name, just that he was as painfully unfunny as above.

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

More evidence that spb is truly despicable.

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2]

That's not me.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Right. Turd lies.

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

Of course not. It's just someone aping your exact same racist tone toward, and bizarre obsession with scott.

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2]

It's not me.

If it were I would be using jive. I'm much more creative.

[Sevo]

turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

You're about as creative as a turnip.

[Sevo]

Turnips are more honest. And not as stupid.

[Sevo]

turd lies. It’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2]

What it is, bro?

Who is you?

[Sevo]

turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

[Senater Tim Scott]

I’m a simple Black man, junior Senater from South Carolina, and Lindsey Graham’s secret lover. That’s all.

[Sevo]

Having a discussion with yourself, turd?

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

He actually thinks people buy this bullshit.

[Sandra (formerly OBL)]

"Dartmouth College is bringing back the SAT."

But literally the only thing SAT scores tell us is that the SAT is racist.

#RadicalIndividualistsForRacialCollectivism

[Rev Arthur L kuckland]

Dc's dark bubble?
Is that a joke about the racial demographic most likely to commit a crime?

[Fats of Fury]

Dark Bubble is Corn Pop's older sister.

[Randy Sax]

Sounds like a stripper at a club called Wet Spot

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

GTA IV!

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2]

Services PMI® at 53.4%; January 2024 Services ISM® Report On Business®

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/services-pmi-at-53-4-january-2024-services-ism-report-on-business-302052175.html

Very strong.

3.3% GDP growth
353,000 job growth with prior months revised up
manufacturing boom

#GreedyCapitalistPig

[Mike Parsons]

Trump up 22% on the economy vs Biden.

"Am I out of touch...no, no, its the children who are wrong"

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2]

Yes, Donnie would win by 50 electoral votes today.

Then three months later he would claim he made the same economy the BEST EVER IN HISTORY.

And the Trump-Tards would all be repeating his bullshit.

[Sevo]

turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

[Sevo]

turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

[JesseAz]

Hilarious you posted GDP growth despite the comments near the top. Truly doubling down on being ignorant.

[Commenter_XY]

So why do the American people think POTUS Trump did a better job with the economy....by a whopping 22 points?

Listen, POTUS Biden is the Second Coming of Jimmy Carter.

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

Biden is worse than Carter.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Robby, the bill is a major turd.

https://www.thecentersquare.com/texas/article_98d4b954-c4f7-11ee-af6c-87de153afc32.html

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott and other leaders in Texas strongly oppose a Senate border bill introduced by Democrats, arguing it codifies mass migration into the United States and strips states of their constitutional right to self-defense.

One provision in the bill would prevent judges in federal courts in any state from ruling on lawsuits filed by states, essentially neutering states like Texas, Florida, Louisiana and others whose federal judges have ruled against the Biden administration in lawsuits filed over border-related measures over the past three years.

It states, "The United States District Court for the District of Columbia shall have sole and original jurisdiction to hear challenges, whether constitutional or otherwise, to the validity of this section or any written policy directive, written policy guideline, written procedure, or the implementation thereof."

“Texas stripped of powers in border security bill," Abbott said in response. "This is unacceptable.”

At a meeting with governors on Sunday, Abbott said states working together have already secured one area of the border in Texas, which they plan to replicate in other areas. Their efforts have been so successful blocking cartel-driven illegal activity that illegal activity is being pushed west to Democratic-run states providing no resistance, Texas border czar Mike Banks told The Center Square.

The senators pushing the bill have no understanding of the threat posed by Mexican cartel and transnational criminal organizations responsible for creating an invasion of the southern border, Texas officials argue. Crockett County’s invasion resolution identifies them as “paramilitary, narco-terrorist organizations that … use migrant warfare to obfuscate the trafficking of drugs and people by utilization of irregular techniques, tactics, and procedures. The terrorist designation acknowledges that non-state actors are conducting irregular warfare operations and breaching the sovereignty and national security of the United States, and furthering Gov. Abbott’s formal diplomatic representation to the United States that the State of Texas is not protected against an in invasion.”

[Dillinger]

difficult to do Liz' job, reverting to Anti-T positions are easy.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Klassic Koch.

[R Mac]

Orange Man Bad just has a nice ring to it though. Whaddaya gonna do?

[I, Woodchipper]

imagine supporting this nonsense just because Republicans dont.

Absolute madness.

[Ron]

No American cares about King Charles health at the same time why won't they say what cancer he has, i'm sure the citizens of England might like to know

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

I'm pretty sure the cancer is Cromwell Type 1.

[Mother's Lament]

I care.

"No American cares"

Oh.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

I think all we know at this point is that it isn't prostrate cancer. Interesting that he has the cancer though, given his diet and the fact he doesn't smoke. Makes one wonder what it could be?

[Gaear Grimsrud]

You still have the queen's portrait on your counterfeit currency up there? Or is it just an AI rendition that pops up on your phone when you use Apple Pay?

[Mother's Lament]

Both.

[Vernon Depner]

Cancer of the soul.

[Mike Parsons]

"Amazon pushed back but agreed to meet with White House officials to obtain clarity on whether Team Biden wanted book titles removed outright. Subsequently, Amazon worked to reduce the visibility of books that were deemed conspiratorial by government health advisors."

Imagine my surprise that the "book bans!!" folks, actively trying to actually ban books.

Confession by projection, as usual

[mad.casual]

Came here to say *exactly* this.

Turns out that while the administration was actively colluding with the world's largest book distributor and several social media platforms to silence disfavorable dissenting views on COVID, the "Free Minds. Free Markets." magazine was impugning parents and communities piecemeal for "banning" pornographic material from the public schools they fund and their children attend... an action which was *also* in line with other dissent-silencing efforts the administration undertook.

At this point, it looks an awful lot like even Reason Magazine isn't libertarian and has generally been a fascist-adjacent mouthpiece been since between Obama and Trump.

[Think It Through]

The border bill sucks. It does as much to "fix the border" as the Inflation Reduction Act did to reduce inflation. Also, we shouldn't be funding Ukraine at all, and Israel at a much lower level.

I thought all these things before I knew what Trump said and he has no influence on me.

[R Mac]

We shouldn’t be funding Israel at all.

[Think It Through]

You're probably right.

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2]

Toby Keith has died.

He was a good guy.

Like most country stars he was a Democrat. But after 9/11 he supported Bush purely out of patriotism and 9/11 but stupid Democrats attacked him for it.

[Sevo]

turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

[Sevo]

"This ‘Woke Kindergarten’ madness is all of Donald Trump’s dreams come true"
[...]
"For anyone who writes a regular newspaper column dedicated to satirising the excesses of the modern Left, these are difficult times. Obviously the problem is not a lack of material. There’s more material than any columnist could ever hope to accommodate. The problem, instead, is that the material is often so utterly preposterous, it doesn’t actually need to be mocked or parodied. It leaves satire wholly redundant.
Take, for example, the following news story published over the weekend in the San Francisco Chronicle. It reports that a struggling elementary (i.e. primary) school has spent $250,000 (c£200,000) of federal funds on the services of a radical Left-wing educational organisation. Its name? “Woke Kindergarten.”
https://news.yahoo.com/woke-kindergarten-madness-donald-trump-070000902.html
Everyone else's worst nightmare.

[I, Woodchipper]

I like how the problem with the Woke Kindergarten program is more because it gives Trump and MAGA fuel for the fire and NOT because it's absolutely insane.

[But SkyNet is a Private Company]

It’s the exact same thing UNRWA does in “Palestine”, only with Trump and Whitey instead of Jews

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Life is simple in the 2020s. Questioning anything supported by the left makes me a fascist and MAGA Trumpster. Some day I will atone.

[Super Scary]

"Some day I will atone."

Are you white? If so, then it's too late.

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

I think that's more "Some day you will be stoned." And not in the fun way.

[ObviouslyNotSpam]

Surprisingly, any questioning of things supported by MAGA Trumpsters doesn't automatically and irrefutably make you a "woke", progressive, leftist, (m)arxist or socialist woodchipper lubricant.

[Truthfulness]

That's because they typically are. See: Twitter, Tumblr, Hollywood, the Democratic Party, etc.

[Vernon Depner]

Wokeism does not allow for atonement.

[Sevo]

"Kamala Harris was tapped to fix the immigration crisis. Then the problem shifted"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/kamala-harris-was-tapped-to-fix-the-immigration-crisis-then-the-problem-shifted/ar-BB1hNkYs

Yep, seems they needed someone with some minimal degree of competence. See ya, Harris. Go disappear again.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

I miss the days when the loser in the Presidential election got to be VP.

[I, Woodchipper]

shes in charge of saving us from AI threats.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

We're doomed.

[Its_Not_Inevitable]

Then Skynet is inevitable.

[Dillinger]

>>Under the influence of former President Donald Trump, many elected Republicans are denouncing the bipartisan border security bill.

did you ... read it?

>>There's just one problem: Trump hates it.

ah I see ... no you did not.

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2]

Fatass Donnie hasn't read it.

He has one good issue to run on and can't let it get away.

[Sevo]

turd certainly is dishonest, but he’s got a heaping helping of stupid to go with his dishonesty. Stupid, lying, despicable steaming pile of lefty shit and proud to be!

[Dillinger]

>>He has one good issue to run on

dunking on +22 econ would be excessive

[Kyle T]

Neither have you?

They were against it when leaks were coming out. The House sent the Senate an immigration bill. Why should they consider this?

[Mickey Rat]

That could lead to thinking Trump might not be wrong.

[Sevo]

"Here's How 2 Sentences in the Constitution Rose From Obscurity to Ensnare Donald Trump"
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2024-02-05/heres-how-2-sentences-in-the-constitution-rose-from-obscurity-to-ensnare-donald-trump

If you hold your mouth just right and squint real hard, you can kinda see HOW WE GOT HIM THIS TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dillinger]

American Hostage Crisis: Day 122 next on Nightline

>>Israel's military success against Hamas is described as "very limited so far" by a former CENTCOM general.

ah I see ... chock full of (D) today

[ObviouslyNotSpam]

Oh, I thought you were going to talk about the J6 "hostages"...

[Dillinger]

those guys way past Day 122

[Commenter_XY]

Day 1082

[Dillinger]

>>Biden is declining to do a Super Bowl interview yet again.

hamstrung by 1A. Congress has to give him more power.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

"D.C.'s dark bubble."

You know what else is dark in D.C.?

[Ajsloss]

Darkseid?

[Dillinger]

Black Adam?

[A Cynical Asshole]

The darkies? *ducks*

[InsaneTrollLogic]

The place Charles Schumer usually sticks his head?

[A Thinking Mind]

Jon Stewart.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Dark Brandon?

[Vernon Depner]

Dining?

[mad.casual]

Everything that runs on A.C.?

All the Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap?

All the other Dirty Deeds Done in no way cheap?

[Dillinger]

>>King Charles III has been diagnosed with cancer.

Chuck! Guess what!? You finally get to be King ...

[Beezard]

I imagine in his final moments he will be visited by some Grand Demonologist of the WEF, dressed in ceremonial garb. Who then sucks out Charles’ soul into the all devouring Stone of Destiny. As per the compact he signed with them.

[Dillinger]

sounds about right

[Dillinger]

>>Amazon worked to reduce the visibility of books that were deemed conspiratorial by government health advisors.

ya but they bring football to Thursday nights so shut up and take my money.

[A Thinking Mind]

Also they’re butchering a Lord Of The Rings adaptation. Brilliantly terrible, of course you need to pay them to not understand storytelling.

[Dillinger]

I sat through the one where Mordor was built and some rings were cast it wasn't unbearable ... I can't remember what it was called so there's the measure of impact lol

[MasterThief]

I pushed through an episode. It clearly wanted me to feel things, but I just didn't care about the characters and hated the plot and dialogue.

[Kyle T]

"Under the influence of former President Donald Trump, many elected Republicans are denouncing the bipartisan border security bill. There’s just one problem: Trump hates it."

Maybe Johnson is more accurate with his comment that the House can look at the Senate bill after the Senate looks at the House immigration bill sent weeks ago.

If Schumer ignores the House bills, why should the House give a sh!t about Senate bills.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

Maybe Johnson is more accurate with his comment that the House can look at the Senate bill after the Senate looks at the House immigration bill sent weeks ago.

Shush, don't tell the center-right that, they think the deal Schumer is offering is the bestest they've seen in 20 years.

[Sevo]

Because the writer has a raging case of TDS.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)]

Under the influence of former President Donald Trump, many elected Republicans are denouncing the bipartisan border security bill. The bill, the details of which were released on Monday, includes $20 billion in new funding for Border Patrol agents, officials to process asylum claims, and other resources for the Department of Homeland Security. Negotiated by Sen. James Lankford (R–Okla.) and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D–N.Y.), the bill would also dole out significant foreign aid to Israel ($14 billion) and Ukraine ($60 billion).

There's just one problem: Trump hates it.

Well, no, I don't think much of it either. That's two problems.

[MWAocdoc]

"Only a fool, or a Radical Left Democrat, would vote for this horrendous Border Bill"

Of course, that's a redundancy - the two are synonymous - but Radical Right Republicans are also fools. Having the RIGHT to lock down the border and having the ABILITY to lock down the border are two different things (thanks and a tip o' the hat to Ron White and Blue Collar Comedy). Most of the Congress critters would dearly love to distract Americans from the real issue with all this sound and fury, signifying nothing; which is: the immigration policy itself is the problem in the first place. Making 99% of potential immigrants illegal guarantees only expensive failure and perpetual conflict with no possible compromise or solution. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

[MWAocdoc]

"Most voters think Biden is too old to be president."

This is a VERY dangerous question and, if true, indicates a very dangerous mindset among The People. There is no age at which one becomes "too old" to be - or DO - anything you can imagine! It is true that Biden's dementia makes him unqualified to be President. I suspect he was already too demented to be qualified for President during the 2019 election, as his handlers were just barely able to prop him up in the basement and only America's growing hatred of Trump at the time got him elected. There are many very competent people at Biden's age and almost as many highly incompetent people at thirty years younger than Biden. Enough with the age discrimination in the polls and everywhere else already!

[MWAocdoc]

Disclaimer: I posted a meme with Biden’s face photoshopped onto the “Weekend at Bernie’s” movie poster on Facebook at the time, so anyone who was NOT demented back then could have foreseen this!

[Gaear Grimsrud]

90 is the new 80!

[Vernon Depner]

Dead is the new 90!

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Great, so we get our first undead President. I would've said zombie, but Wilson after his stroke, and Biden fit the definition too well.

[MWAocdoc]

"Subsequently, Amazon worked to reduce the visibility of books that were deemed conspiratorial by government health advisors."

"Government officials use informal pressure — bullying, threatening, and cajoling — to sway the decisions of private platforms and limit the publication of disfavored speech. The use of this informal pressure, known as jawboning, is growing."

https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/jawboning-against-speech

[ObviouslyNotSpam]

Looks like we can add "any legislation" to the Republican-authored rules about what cannot be decided in an election year...

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

This bill makes things worse you dumb cunt.

[I, Woodchipper]

The Biden White House pressured Amazon to take action against books with contrarian COVID-19 messages.

New constitutional amendment idea: Any public official who takes part in any capacity in an action later determined to violate civil rights will be put to death in a public square.

[Vernon Depner]

US law already provides for the death penalty in such cases.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/242

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

Let's build a really big arena, a sort of Circus Maximus, if you will, and hold the Superbowl in it each year. At halftime, these condemned officials will fight hungry lions with swords.

Due to laws against cruelty to animals, the swords will be Nerf.

[mad.casual]

We should test any novel execution methods on them. That way, people will stop using the phrase "novel, untested execution method" because everyone will have seen it at Super Bowl half time.

[mtrueman]

"Israel's military success against Hamas is described as "very limited so far" by a former CENTCOM general."

Bad news for Israel. On top of world wide disgust at their genocidal treatment of civilians, now America's elites are realizing 'the world's best military' can't cope with a militia without a navy or air force, and are being forced to negotiate with Hamas. I can only imagine Israel's Arab neighbors, which at the best of times, have viewed Israel with a mixture of fear and contempt, are experiencing an emperor's new clothes re-evaluation of their options.

[Mother's Lament]

Fuck off, Nazi, and take your imaginary "genocide" with you.

[mtrueman]

"and take your imaginary “genocide” with you"

The charges of genocide won't go away so easily. No propaganda will magic them away. For decades Israelis have dined out on their status of victims of genocide. That will all change now that the world has witnessed Israel as perpetrator. And the much vaunted Israeli occupation force has revealed itself capable of murdering women, children, and just about everything except for the militia they're supposedly out to destroy. And Israeli supporters, like Mother's Lament here, instead of proudly trumpeting Israel's brave feats on the battlefield, is reduced to school yard taunts and denialism. A truly pathetic show.

[Sevo]

"The charges of genocide won’t go away so easily. No propaganda will magic them away..."

You pathetic pile of antisemitic shit, none of your or Misek's propaganda will make them other than lies from Nazi assholes.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

Of course they won’t go away easily. Because leftist filth like you keep repeating them. You’re a liar and a propandit.

Why do you hate Jews so much?

[mtrueman]

"Why do you hate Jews so much?"

Why aren't you trumpeting Israel's brave feats on the battlefield? Why are you reduced to bluster and school yard taunts? Here we have an American general, clearly a Jew hater, criticizing Israel's occupation force, and all you can contribute is impotent tantrums. Grow a pair! Grow a spine! Grow a pair of spines!

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

Answer my questions you lying cunt.

[mtrueman]

I don't hate Jews at all. Karl Marx, Rosa Luxembourg, Leon Trotsky, all Jews, and I love them every bit as much as you do. It's Israel I have trouble with. It would be nice to see the place wiped off the map and replaced by a state where everyone is welcome regardless of ethnicity, nationality, race or religion. A country befitting the term 'holy land.'

Bring me my Bow of burning gold:
Bring me my Arrows of desire:
Bring me my Spear: O clouds unfold:
Bring me my Chariot of fire!

I will not cease from Mental Fight,
Nor shall my Sword sleep in my hand:
Till we have built Jerusalem,
In Gaza's green & pleasant Land.

[Truthfulness]

You want to deny Jews their own self-sovereignty. You've been lying about them and endorse self-hating Jews. You're an antisemite.

[Mother's Lament]

"And Israeli supporters, like Mother’s Lament here, instead of proudly trumpeting Israel’s brave feats on the battlefield, is reduced to school yard taunts and denialism.

Because you're a hate filled antisemite who lies about something that clearly isn't happening.

You're fucking detestable.

[mtrueman]

"You’re fucking detestable."

More insults and childishness. Can't you say even a single positive thing about Israel's war efforts? They've been at it for four months now? Isn't there a single accomplishment you like to celebrate in these pages?

[Truthfulness]

He's calling you out for the antisemite you are. It's completely justified. You would be in perfect company with Hamas. Go join them if you actually believe the hateful nonsense you spout out.

[Commenter_XY]

misconstrueman, opinions are like assholes. You know that especially well.

Who gives a flying fuck what Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon or Syria thinks. What are they going to do...invade Israel? They tried that....and lost three times. They will grumble and whine...and do nothing. Like usual. They're cowards, without honor.

Whether Israel takes 3 months, or three years: Those Hamas fuckers will be just as dead. And assholes like you can bewail and bemoan the great loss they represent.

[mtrueman]

"They’re cowards, without honor."

Kinda like their neighbor, you mean.

"Whether Israel takes 3 months, or three years: Those Hamas fuckers will be just as dead. "

Note, even Israel's biggest fan boys seem to have given up on Israel's recovery to the hostages held in Gaza.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

Kill yourself.

[mtrueman]

Another coward without honor. Ever considered joining up? Uncle Israel needs people like you. Babies don't kill themselves, you know.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

You’re supporting monsters who proudly videotaped themselves murdering families for fun and be heading babies.

[mtrueman]

"You’re supporting monsters "

You're confused. I'm supporting human animals. You're supporting monsters.

[Truthfulness]

Blaming the victim, I see. Israel isn't the one who's holding hostages, dimwit.

[Sevo]

Are the walls closing in? Is it the beginning of the end?
Eat shit and die, scumbag.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

You’re scum. The Israeli’s are fighting for their survival, and you’re supporting Hamas.

People like you should be put down.

[mtrueman]

"You’re scum. "

There's big money in scum. $US 14 billion according to the article. Genocide is an expensive business, and it wouldn't be happening without the generous support of the US taxpayer.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

They’re no genocide. You’re a liar. If the ‘Palestinians’ want to be left alone then they should stop their overwhelming support of Hamas, and Hamas’s real genocidal actions.

You are with the terrorists.

[mtrueman]

" If the ‘Palestinians’ want to be left alone then they should stop their overwhelming support of Hamas, and Hamas’s real genocidal action"

I believe the Palestinians want to live in freedom and dignity. That's why they support Hamas. If being left alone means a life languishing in a concentration camp under fascist guns, Oct 7 should tell you your solution was categorically rejected.

"and Hamas’s real genocidal actions."

You haven't read the South African indictment yet, have you? It may surprise you about who's doing the genocide. (Hint: it ain't Hamas.)

[Commenter_XY]

misconstrueman, poll after poll after poll of the palestinians (a fake, invented people - they're arab lowlifes that other arabs reject) in Judea and Samaria and gaza show strong support for Hamas' actions and agenda. Those palestinians, the overwhelming majority of them, fully support killing every Jew alive. They celebrated the Simchat Torah pogrom.

Hamas made the choice; now they will die. Day after day, they will watch their fellow 'brave' warriors get taken out with head shots and precision munitions. And dogs will feed on their dead flesh.

Israel will annihilate Hamas. They will remain in Gaza forever. The palestinians will be scattered among Ishmael.

And misconstrueman, there is nothing you can do to stop it. Feel free to whine like a sick dog.

[mtrueman]

"Those palestinians, the overwhelming majority of them, fully support killing every Jew alive. "

This surprises you? You don't really expect Palestinians to love and Jews and treasure their status as subhumans, do you? You're nuts. Palestinians are fine people, no question about it. They're no angels though and have as much trouble as the rest of us when it comes to turning the other cheek.

"Hamas made the choice; now they will die."

War is hell. Meanwhile the opposing parties are in Paris chatting about how to end the hostilities. I've told you all this before, I'm sure. Are you that thick headed that you need yet more reminders?

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

After gapping a Hamasshole, stuff a chunk of pork in his mouth and sew his corpse inside a fresh hogshide. Then dump the assemblage in the desert to be consumed by dogs and buzzards.

[mtrueman]

You still can't refute this general and point to anything the Israeli military has accomplished that is a success worthy of celebrating. Not from hour 0 when Hamas breezed into Israel unopposed despite being warned something was cooking in Gaza. Not the wanton destruction, hyping phony command centers, killing Israeli hostages, party goers, kibbutz residents, not to mention 10s of thousands of non Jews, not the non-existent record of recovering hostages. Have you really nothing positive to say about the performance of Israel's military? Your skills as a propagandist are lacking.

[Mother's Lament]

"Genocide"

Time to provide proof or fuck off, Nazi.

[mtrueman]

Israel's on a one way ticket to pariahville. Courtesy of Uncle Sam. Enjoy the trip.

[Truthfulness]

And yet Palestine's population increases. So much for your claim. Let go of your antisemitism.

[Vernon Depner]

Under the influence of former President Donald Trump...

Or maybe they can see for themselves that the bill is a ridiculous farce.

[Jefferson Paul]

Under the influence of former President Donald Trump…

This is the same mindset that has the media saying, "It was only because Trump said so that so many MAGA voters thought the election might have been stolen."

The shenanigans I witnessed had me wondering if the election wasn't on the up-and-up. I still can't say definitively that it was, but it certainly looks that way. And I'd still think that even if Trump came out and conceded the next day and parroted the line that it was "the most secure election ever!"

[Vernon Depner]

The unsolicited mail-in ballots that could be turned in by anyone were alone reason to consider the election invalid.

[JasonT20]

So, all of Utah's elections since 2013 are invalid? The 2016 election that Trump won is invalid because 25% of the votes were delivered by mail?

https://www.skymailint.com/2018/06/history-of-voting-by-mail-in-utah/

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

Yeah, I'd guess those were ripe for fuckery as well.

[JasonT20]

The shenanigans I witnessed had me wondering if the election wasn’t on the up-and-up. I still can’t say definitively that it was, but it certainly looks that way.

What are these shenanigans that you witnessed that give you reason to doubt the legitimacy of the results?

[Truthfulness]

Look up Dominion voting machines for a start.

[Super Scary]

"In addition to $20.23 billion for border security, the bill included $60.06 billion to support Ukraine in its war with Russia, $14.1 billion in security assistance for Israel, $2.44 billion to U.S. Central Command and the conflict in the Red Sea, and $4.83 billion to support U.S. partners in the Indo-Pacific facing aggression from China"

Soo...this "bill on border security" has us spending a fraction of the total cost on our border while sending a huge chunk of it to other countries? How does that make sense?

[Vernon Depner]

And the money for "border security" wasn't even that—it's for speeding up the processing of the invaders so they can stay.

[CE]

Well technically, once they're documented, they're not "undocumented" any more.

[mtrueman]

"How does that make sense?"

The other countries are incapable of defending themselves without the support of US taxpayers. The cost of being the policeman to the world. I would prefer to see the money slated for Ukraine and Israel to go to places that need it, like Honduras, El Salvador and other similarly desperately poor places that are the source of the refugees at the border. More opportunities at home mean less incentive to risk a precarious life in a foreign country.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

Irani’s behind all of this. Your democrat friends Obama and Biden have not only propped up the regime there, but have given them over a hundred billion dollars.

Since you support Obama and Biden, helping put them in place to do these things makes this YOUR fault.

You have an ocean of blood on your hands, with the spigot still wide open.

[mtrueman]

"Irani’s behind all of this. "

Iran is nothing more than a side show, an obsession of geriatrics still obsessed over the kerfuffle at the embassy in 1979. I'm waiting for the pivot to China to get truly underway and then the fun can start.

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

Has mtrueman ever said anything connected to reality?

[Its_Not_Inevitable]

It's amazing how much of our hard earned money they presume to just give away all around the world.

[Uomo Del Ghiaccio]

We don't have the money to send to Ukraine or Israel. Perhaps the senators can donate their salaries and office funding instead.

[Commenter_XY]

Shit, send the Senators to Ukraine. They'll be more useful there in UKR than they are here at home.

[JasonT20]

Why just the Senators? There are more members of the House and fewer of them are older than Biden.

[Truthfulness]

The Democrats control the Senate and are the ones vocal about spending billions on Ukraine. Get your ageist tripe out of here.

[JasonT20]

Foreign aid has never been as large a share of the federal budget as most people think it is. To say that we don't have the money to send to Israel or Ukraine is true, since the federal government runs large deficits (thus borrows the difference). But it is also true then that we don't have the money to increase security at the border, pay Social Security and Medicare benefits at their current levels indefinitely, fund our own military at its current levels...

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

Except that defending the border and the country are actually legitimate duties of the federal government. Though I will agree with you that the budget of the military should be cut, along with Social Security and Medicare.

[JasonT20]

That's what I mean. Debating priorities given the mismatch between spending and revenue is a necessary step that isn't happening other than in rhetoric. It would be great if they'd move the debate to actual tax legislation and appropriations as well. If someone is saying we don't have enough money for X, because it is a lower priority than other things, that is fair. But to just say we don't have enough money without that extra explanation is unhelpful at dealing with our fiscal problems. It also makes it seem like a way of saying that they don't want any money spent on it at all regardless of fiscal reality, but they don't want to say it that way.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

We haven't been paying for Medicare and Medicaid for years now. Go look at the annual Treasury statements--the deficit for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services have routinely been around 85%, annually. It's long been one of the biggest drivers of the deficit in the entire federal government.

[CE]

The bill... includes $20 billion in new funding for Border Patrol agents, officials to process asylum claims, and other resources for the Department of Homeland Security.... the bill would also dole out significant foreign aid to Israel ($14 billion) and Ukraine ($60 billion). There's just one problem: Trump hates it.

Sounds like a lot more than one problem.

[AT]

There's just one problem: Trump hates it.

I, for one, didn't even know the orange clown even had a take on it.

I hated it because it was awful in every way shape and form.

With Trump currently leading President Joe Biden in the polls, Team MAGA sees no reason to give the incumbent any kind of political win.

How the heck do you even frame it that way? The bill was bad strictly on its merits.

-Piss away a bunch of taxpayer money on nations that aren't America.
-Do nothing to stop the hordes of illegals.
-Turn the undisputed crime illegal immigration magically legal for a set number of border jumpers.
-Slush funds galore.

Exactly what part of that do you find defensible, Trump or no-Trump?

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

It's a neat little trick the left has pulled in the last decade. During Trump's time in office, their cities declared themselves immigration sanctuaries and said they didn't have to help the feds enforce immigration law. After Biden took over, they declared the entire US a sanctuary country and said the feds didn't need to enforce immigration law, but the states sure as fuck weren't allowed to do so.

[JasonT20]

How the heck do you even frame it that way? The bill was bad strictly on its merits.

“The border is a very important issue for Donald Trump. And the fact that he would communicate to Republican senators and Congress people that he doesn’t want us to solve the border problem — because he wants to blame Biden for it — is really appalling,” Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah, told reporters.

“The American people are suffering as a result of what’s happening at the border,” he said. “And someone running for president ought to try and get the problem solved, as opposed to saying, ‘Hey, save that problem! Don’t solve it! Let me take credit for solving it later.’”

“I didn’t come here to have the president as a boss or a candidate as a boss. I came here to pass good, solid policy," [Senantor] Tillis [R-N.C.] said. “It is immoral for me to think you looked the other way because you think this is the linchpin for President Trump to win.”

“There are a good number of people for whom border security is too good an issue to give up,” said Sen. Kevin Cramer, R-N.D. “And I do reject that. I’ve always rejected the notion that perfect has to be the standard."

The Republican Party has put Trump ahead of everything, including their own stated goals of 'securing the border'. Trump even posted on his social media platform that they shouldn't do a deal unless they get "EVERYTHING." That means he doesn't want a deal now at all, since the GOP only controls the House. So they can block a deal, they can negotiate for a compromise, but they can't force through exactly what they want because they haven't won enough elections. And even if they do retake the White House and Senate in November, they will still have to deal with the filibuster in the Senate. (Which is a reason why they are getting a large chunk of what they want without having to give much in return in the Senate bill - they could filibuster in the Senate anything less.)

[sadhak]

This bills perhaps is the biggest PR win for Biden and biggest L for GOP in recent times.

The bill (I have read the entire border portion of it) is exceptionally good in GOP's perspective. It gives truckload of money to all enforcement agencies (lot more than they can ever hope to spend), it has provisions to automatically cancel asylum law for all practical purposes and all this while giving absolutely nothing away on immigration front. Nothing to DACA, nothing for legal immigrants (except for some weird reason increase of paltry 14,000 greencards for legal immigrants).

Despite of this Republicans are unable to support it or even offer a decent criticism of it. They are now claiming a bill is not needed ?

Seriously, I do not know what strings Mitch and Lankford pulled for Dems to agree to this but if this bill does not pass, it is not clear to me what can really pass.

Republicans are a complete mess.

[mad.casual]

I prefer it when you post about quitting your job at Rite-Aid to make $3,045.34 every 12 days.

More usefully cogent.

[Ghatanathoah]

Of course the Border Bill is in trouble with Republicans. If the border gets better they won't be able to use it as a club to beat the Democrats with. The goal is to use the border issue to farm votes, not to fix it.

Trump is polling well now, but he will doubtless find some way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory yet again in 2024.

[Truthfulness]

Explain a scenario where this happens.