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Middle East

Israeli Spy Base

Plus: Workplace wellness programs, obnoxious awards shows, "love gov" update, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 1.17.2024 9:30 AM

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Iran directly attacks: On Monday, Iran took credit for hitting and destroying an Israeli spy base with missiles. This is significant because it's the first time since Hamas' October 7 attack on Israel that Iran has "publicly said it's attacked an Israeli target," though Iran has, of course, been working behind the scenes to back groups like Hezbollah, which has been exchanging fire with Israeli troops on the border between Israel and Lebanon, and the Houthis, which are now at the receiving end of U.S. and British strikes after the terrorist group targeted commercial ships in the Red Sea.

Iran's actions were "in response to the Israeli assassination of a number of commanders of the IRGC and the resistance front"—meaning Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis—reports Tasnim, an Iranian news agency.

Things are heating up in the Middle East more broadly. Overnight, Iran launched an airstrike on what it claims is a Sunni militant cluster operating in Pakistan. The government of Pakistan reports that at least two children were killed and called Iran's actions an "unprovoked violation of [Pakistan's] airspace."

And Yemeni Houthis struck an American ship, the Gibraltar Eagle, on Monday. "The Yemeni armed forces consider all American and British ships and warships participating in the aggression against our country as hostile targets," said Houthi spokesman Yahya Saree. The United States is weighing whether to re-designate the Houthis as a terrorist group following dozens of strikes on commercial ships in the Red Sea (and retribution for those attacks doled out by the U.S. and allies).

Analyzing the Iowa caucuses: Former President Donald Trump "showed striking weakness in suburban and urban areas," reports Politico. "So while the data show how Trump has managed to consolidate a majority of Republican support, it also reveals his relative vulnerability among suburban and highly educated voters—raising questions about how he will win over a voting bloc that has long viewed him with skepticism and helped fuel his 2020 loss."

Still, Trump improved on his 2016 Iowa caucus showing in a major way. (If you recall, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz won the Iowa caucuses eight years ago, with 27.6 percent of the vote compared to Trump's 24.3 percent.) "Several dozen precincts gave Trump less than 10 percent of their caucus vote eight years ago; this year, he won 35 percent of the vote in those areas," reports Politico.

Government shutdown? Yesterday, the Senate moved forward a stopgap bill, which would temporarily stave off a government shutdown. (We've heard this one before, haven't we?) "By a 68-to-13 vote, senators voted to take up the legislation, which would temporarily extend funding for some federal agencies until March 1 and for others through March 8," reports The New York Times. "It would keep spending levels flat while lawmakers and aides hammer out the details of a $1.66 trillion deal reached between Speaker Mike Johnson, the Louisiana Republican, and Democrats."

Some right-wing members of Congress have voiced opposition to the spending bill, particularly the fact that it does not stipulate securing the border, forcing Johnson to seek support from Democrats.


Scenes from New York: If you're a New York state taxpayer, you may get the honor of paying the legal fees of your former governor, Andrew Cuomo—yes, that Andrew Cuomo, the one who locked Granny in a nursing home with other COVID-positive olds at the start of the pandemic, ensuring the disease would spread like wildfire.

There's a New York law on the books that forces taxpayer funds to be used to reimburse public officials if they're prosecuted for a crime but not convicted. "The Albany County sheriff's office brought a misdemeanor charge of forcible touching against Cuomo in 2021, which was tossed after prosecutors concluded the complaint was defective," reports Politico. Therefore, "Cuomo received a $565,000 check from the state comptroller's office last week, thanks to the law."

The former "love gov" was accused of sexual misconduct by multiple women, which led to him stepping down in August 2021. He was also embroiled in a scandal related to the possible use of government funds to subsidize his memoir writing. Now that he's flush with cash again, he's weighing a mayoral run.


QUICK HITS

  • Some San Francisco tenants are trying a rent strike.
  • Highly concerning:

Chronic absenteeism nearly doubled after the pandemic school closures and has improved only slightly since. For many, school has now become optional.
For @propublica and @NewYorker, I dug into the core question: How do you rebuild a crucial social norm? https://t.co/DlM0DJ7pa5

— Alec MacGillis (@AlecMacGillis) January 8, 2024

  • The Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE) is challenging Utah's social media age-verification law.
  • A new study calls bullshit on workplace wellness programs.
  • "The Japanese central bank is widely expected to put an end to the world's last negative interest rate in the next few months," reports Bloomberg. "And after decades of humdrum predictability, the world's third-largest government bond market is buzzing, the benchmark stock index has hit a 34-year high, and brokerages across Tokyo are staffing up—often seeking out older traders who remember when Japan last had positive rates."
  • Yes:

Constitutional ban on Theater Kids running anything, at least until we can figure out what's going on. https://t.co/UxvwcUQ7EU

— Matt Welch (@MattWelch) January 16, 2024

  • Reason's Christian Britschgi tallies up the price of city-built tent encampments for the homeless.
  • The merger between JetBlue and Spirit was put on hold by a federal judge, out of antitrust concerns, which "means JetBlue will continue to be relegated to second-tier status behind the industry's big four carriers … which wield unmatched pricing power and command vastly bigger fleets," reports Bloomberg. The irony!
  • Death to awards shows.
  • Yes:

I'm not a Nozickian, but one of Nozick's great insights was that simply examining how much more the rich have than others is insufficient—we also need to examine *how* they got rich. Creating wealth via positive-sum market activity is morally good https://t.co/bBr4FgJCPs

— Chris Freiman (@cafreiman) January 17, 2024

  • LOL:

Trump is 100% gonna name Vivek Director of the Bureau of Indian Affairs pic.twitter.com/36wxo66M6I

— Armand Domalewski (@ArmandDoma) January 17, 2024

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  1. Chumby   2 years ago

    Heated Exchange

    Biden’s climate czar John Kerry snaps at an Aussie journalist when confronted about his own climate footprint.

    "What's the carbon footprint of these events every single year that you come here? Do you think it's worth it — peasants paying for your crimes?" Avi Yemini of Rebel News asked Kerry, who was walking on a street in Davos, Switzerland.

    "That's a stupid question," Kerry responded. "Nobody ever suggested that. Don't make up stupid questions," he said when asked a follow-up question about why his carbon footprint didn't matter.

    Yemini later said that Kerry "found it difficult to justify his carbon footprint in attending the World Economic Forum each year in Davos."

    - Russia Today

    Kerry had a long face after this interaction.

    1. Anomalous   2 years ago

      Kerry had a long face after this interaction.

      He's such a neighsayer.

      1. Chumby   2 years ago

        Perhaps he couldn’t talk about it due to being horse.

        1. Randy Sax   2 years ago

          The whole WEF conference is a dog and pony show.

          1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

            Lots of horse trading.

            1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

              Ensuring Equine for All

              1. Randy Sax   2 years ago

                And yet for some reason they were against anyone taking the de-wormer for Covid.

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                2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                  Kerry wanted it all for himself.

            2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

              Beware the hoof and mouth disease.

              1. Eeyore   2 years ago

                The only cure is euthanasia.

              2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                I thought that was foot-in-mouth disease.

          2. Eeyore   2 years ago

            I was going to say donkey show.

            1. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

              They're a bunch of asses, in Davos.

          3. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

            "And Kerry is a lying horse-faced dog soldier!"
            --Brandon garbling his own garblings.
            🙂
            😉

      2. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

        He later hooked up with Sarah Jessica Parker and they had a beautiful mare together

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          Giddy up!

        2. Ersatz   2 years ago (edited)

          night-mare scenario

        3. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

          I’m sure he cried foal.

    2. Minadin   2 years ago

      Meanwhile, also in Davos: Argentinian Libertarian President Javier Milei:

      "Collectivist experiments are never the solution to the problems that afflict the citizens of the world. Rather, they are the root cause."

      https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1747645657437925704

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Jeff most offended.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        How much you bet he never gets invited back to Davos again?

        1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

          How much you wanna bet his plane doesn't make it back to Argentina?

          1. Chumby   2 years ago

            Was it built by Bloeing?

  2. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    On Monday, Iran took credit for hitting and destroying an Israeli spy base with missiles.

    Lost the concept of a proxy war.

    1. Chumby   2 years ago

      Iran also shots missiles at a “terror cell” in Pakistan. Islamabad recalled their ambassador over the incident. Perhaps Tehran has joined the nuclear club and is baiting.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        They are considered to be master baiters.

      2. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

        @LizWolfe...Iran attacked this 'Israeli base' that was located in IRAQ.

        1. Chumby   2 years ago

          Iran's Foreign Minister Hossein Amirabdollahian confirmed Iran's attack on terrorist positions in Pakistan:

          * None of the Pakistani citizens were targeted by Iranian missiles and drones

          * We targeted the Jaish-ul-Adl terrorist group (Baloch?), not Pakistani citizens.

          * Our target has been Iranian terrorists in Pakistan.

          - Resistance Trench, IROP, Intel Slava Z, et. al.

          1. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

            Pakistan was a separate, second attack. Wolfe's column was unclear.

            1. Chumby   2 years ago

              I don’t read the articles here. I had posted about the initial attack the other night and yesterday. I have not kept up on the fine details; at some point during the 48-hour rule, it was claimed that one target hit was a Mossad base.

  3. Chumby   2 years ago

    FBI Arrests Transgender Who Made Threats In 'Trans Woman Support Group'

    Federal prosecutors on Friday charged an Oregon transgender woman who posted in a "trans woman support group" about planning to go out in a "blaze of glory" against transphobes.

    The FBI reportedly found 27 guns and "tens of thousands of rounds of ammunition" during a search of Elizabeth West's home.

    "I'm too old to keep looking for jobs and I've had it up to here being bullied by trans phobic aholes I am left with no alternative. I'll probably have to go out in a blaze of glory. I've been preparing for this moment a long time at least then I'll be remember I have no family no friends," the post said.

    According to court documents, West's Twitter bio read, "A Nazi dominatrix from Hell, who is tired of the blackening of America and Europe and ready to stand up to the Black orcs and the Jewish Wizards."

    - some Russian news outlet

    Nobody has seen the ‘Kill All Rednecks’ account since the arrest. Hmmmm

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

      Well obviously they were bullied, so justified per some here and media a week or so ago.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      You can cut the gun off the guy, but can't get the guy to give up guns.

      1. Eeyore   2 years ago

        So the size of the gun really is about compensation?

    3. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      West’s Twitter bio read, “A Nazi dominatrix from Hell, who is tired of the blackening of America and Europe and ready to stand up to the Black orcs and the Jewish Wizards.

      "Xer was obviously MAGA" - t. Buttplug

    4. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Isn't Kooky Ass Retard now called Lynn?

      1. Chumby   2 years ago

        That is his post transition name. It hasn’t cured the anger or emotional outbursts.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          Cutting off body parts and eating handfuls of hormones seldom does.

    5. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

      The FBI reportedly found 27 guns and “tens of thousands of rounds of ammunition”

      Rookie.

      1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

        Sounds like a good weekend.

  4. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Former President Donald Trump "showed striking weakness in suburban and urban areas..."

    Should have told them he's basically a Democrat, then he would have done better in those places.

    1. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

      You can't fool all the people, a con man needs to be satisfied with the marks he can get. I sure there is plenty of money coming in from the faithful.

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

        Yeah his week showing of winning by more than 30%

        1. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

          There is no doubt Trump defeated his rivals, but he is a long way from a large number of people. Iowa has less than 1% of the US population and only 15% of the Republicans even participated.

      2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

        We’re not talking about Biden.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      "it also reveals his relative vulnerability among suburban and highly educated voters"

      Highly educated or highly indoctrinated?

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        No difference

        1. mad.casual   2 years ago

          Urban and suburban or cloistered?

      2. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

        Yes, and the evangelicals are not indoctrinated? We have a cult like leader running for President and those not buying his message are the indoctrinated ones. Think that through again.

        1. damikesc   2 years ago

          "We have a cult like leader running for President"

          ...but enough about Biden.

  5. Chumby   2 years ago

    The farmer’s protests in France are going as well as expected.

    Footage, purportedly from Toulouse, shows tons of manure and produce being dumped in front of the city’s administrative council.

    Recall that thousands of farmers across the region are protesting against rising taxes and unfair competition from imported products.

    Best not poo-poo this doo-doo.

    - news agency in Moscow

    The pun was theirs

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      NY Times: what protest?

      1. Chumby   2 years ago

        Not sure if Salon US Weekly has covered this either.

        1. HorseConch   2 years ago

          If it's not AP or Reuters, it ain't news.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            That's what Jeff said.

  6. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    By a 68-to-13 vote, senators voted to take up the legislation, which would temporarily extend funding for some federal agencies...

    I certainly hope the Ukrainian government is one of those federal agencies.

  7. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Cuomo received a $565,000 check from the state comptroller's office last week, thanks to the law.

    I wonder if any of it went to any other attorneys.

    1. Chumby   2 years ago

      Just part of the quid pro Cuomo.

  8. Chumby   2 years ago

    Somewhere in Country 404

    Ukrainians have already started shooting at Ukrainian military recruiters.

    A military recruiter and a policeman, tried to break into the man’s apartment.

    Without hesitation, the resident shot one of the conscriptors.

    - My Lord Bebo

    video available in the original post

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Neocon interpretation: Putin got to that man first.

    2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      I support this.

    3. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   2 years ago

      They wouldn't be in this situation had we given them another $200 billion.

    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      We'll know shit's real when Poland, Germany, and the Scandanavian countries start yeeting Ukrainian migrants back to the fatherland.

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago

        You've gotta admire globalization at work.

  9. Ajsloss   2 years ago

    So... Sandra is actually Robert Reich?

    1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

      Huh?

      1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

        You keep track of how much money the billionaires keep making.

        1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

          Ahhhhhhhhhhh, I Ctrl-F'd for reich and came up empty. Hadn't clicked on the tweet yet.

          "The world's five richest men have added $14 million to their wealth every hour since 2020. If that doesn’t convince you wealth inequality is out of control, I don’t know what will."

          Yeah that right there is a solid illustration of OBL's First Law. Biden has been Prez for most of this period of wealth concentration at the very top. Almost like there's a reason billionaires want Biden in the WH.

          Nevertheless I can't be Robert Reich since I'm taller than a 6-year-old. 😛

          1. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

            Priceless.

    2. Chumby   2 years ago

      Misek’s last name is Reich. His grandfather is the senior and his father the junior making him the third Reich.

      1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

        That joke rings a bit Holo... caust it hits much too close to the truth.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          That's just Göring too far with that joke.

          1. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   2 years ago

            Don't Jew guys have any other jokes?

            1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

              I did not see that coming.

              1. Moonrocks   2 years ago

                You people will Goebbel up anything.

              2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

                It is A Triumph of the Will to not make jokes about Herr Misek...But Holocaust jokes are, as Czarists might say, beyond the pale.

                Nazis deserve the rifle butt of humor, not their victims.

                1. Zeb   2 years ago

                  Not nearly as offensive as some of these puns, though.

            2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

              Jews and comedy writing? I’ve never heard of such a thing.

      2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago (edited)

        And since I always tell him to “Fuck Off, Nazi!” maybe he’s trying to make a Fourth Reich with himself.

        The optics on that are sickening.

  10. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Some San Francisco tenants are trying a rent strike.

    Demanding a Gaza ceasefire.

    1. Minadin   2 years ago

      St. Louis Board of Aldermen literally passed a resolution for a Gaza ceasefire last week. Super Effective.

      1. Longtobefree   2 years ago

        Sort of like a US President freeing all the slaves in another country? (but NOT in the US)

        1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

          No, unless St. Louis has also defeated Hamas under terms of unconditional surrender. More like the Monroe doctrine.

      2. Chumby   2 years ago

        They may eventually pass a resolution for a ceasefire in St. Louis.

        1. Minadin   2 years ago

          They actually place blame for that on the State legislature (R) and governor (R).

    2. damikesc   2 years ago

      Fail to see how "I won't honor an obligation if you do not do what I want" is something with a lot of power behind it.

  11. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

    So, COVID continues to suck. One fun dimension is that this strain seems to trigger acid reflux, so until I got a prescription for some really strong acid relief, my throat was just raw from the acid and the caked-on mucus, so it became really painful to swallow. Still is, but at least I'm no longer eating away the lining of my esophagus.

    Great time to be sick in the middle of a major cold snap.

    1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

      Should've double masked. Everyone knows that (I mean, everyone was too stupid to realize that before 2020; but they all know now).

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Horse paste will fix you up.

    2. Eeyore   2 years ago

      I blame the flagon of straight vodka I drink for breakfast.

      1. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

        https://www.whiskyliquorstore.com/197902/royal-dragon-imperial-vodka-gift-box

        The flagon with the dragon?

        1. Eeyore   2 years ago

          That is some expensive vodka. What a lazy liquor. Not even aged or anything.

    3. Moonrocks   2 years ago

      Thanks, Fauci.

    4. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      Unlike some truly sick bastards, I will not revel in your misery. Please get well soon.

      1. Eeyore   2 years ago

        I have definitely become a sick bastard.

    5. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

      Get better.

  12. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    For many, school has now become optional.

    The one thing they were taught during the pandemic.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      Kids can learn all about trannies and sex on the internet. Schools serve no purpose these days.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        But not in Utah, unless FIRE wins their suit.

      2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

        Kids can learn all about trannies and sex ANYTHING on the internet. Schools serve no purpose these days.

        FTFY. And if the world only made sense, it would fix it for everyone.

  13. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Government under Biden openly funded propaganda on Americans through DHS terrorist funding.

    DHS used a grant program intended to combat terrorists, called the Targeted Violence and Terrorism Prevention (TVTP) Program, to pay activists to write blog posts that criticized Donald Trump and other conservatives under the guise of “media literacy,” the Media Research Center found through public records requests.
    .
    In its funding application, the University of Rhode Island’s Media Education Lab declared that “propaganda and misinformation concerning topics including immigration [and] racial justice” had become “disruptive.” It asked DHS for funding to run “community-created counter-propaganda.”
    .
    “Propaganda can also be used for socially beneficial purposes. Indeed, because the public has long been recognized as being suggestible, the United States has long made use of beneficial propaganda during WWI, WWII, and the Cold War,” the grant application said.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/how-the-biden-administration-used-a-counter-terrorism-grant-to-fund-anti-conservative-propaganda

  14. JesseAz   2 years ago

    You know it is bad for Fani Willis when even the daily beast is calling her out.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-we-cant-just-shrug-off-the-fani-willis-scandal

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Jeffy's gonna be hard-pressed to find an outlet defending her.

      1. R Mac   2 years ago

        He’ll either make up some nonsense or ignore it altogether.

    2. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   2 years ago

      Why We Can’t Just Shrug Off the Fani Willis Scandal

      And oh how they've tried.

    3. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

      Actually a very good summary despite the TDS.

      1. HorseConch   2 years ago

        It seems to be a common theme with all the Trump getters. They seem to all be grifters, liars, crooks, or lying, grifting crooks. All of these cases are being brought in places that would convict him of anything the prosecutor charged. If they wanted a shred of legitimacy to any of this, they would attempt to try them in front of an impartial jury with a non patsy of a prosecutor.

  15. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

    The 2023-2024 Congress may well be noted for never having produced a budget. Rather running the government on CRs. I have and continue to suggest that Congress be required to pass a budget before it can move on any additional work.

    Also worth noting, in my local newspaper, a report that Congress spend $14K to bring in a yoga instructor for staff to have classes. No budget, no yoga.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      Congress hasn't passed a budget since 1997 you dumb fuck.

      https://reason.com/2023/03/21/the-budget-battle-book/

      1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

        What they're not doing is rushing out one single omnibus spending package at the end of the year, that nobody has time to properly read or debate, and everyone is required to vote for.

        Passing multiple CRs in which every cent has to be fought and argued over is, to my taste, a procedural upgrade to the failed process it's replaced.

        1. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

          First CRs are not fighting for money they are merely extending current spending appropriations. I don't like this because it is a very inefficient way to use funds and, in my experience, leads to waste. I agree that the end of the year omnibus spending is also very bad. All this is why I suggest, and would be surprised if it happens, that Congress should be required to pass a budget and appropriation prior to any other work being done.

          1. damikesc   2 years ago

            Been a law that they have to pass a budget for many years now. Congressional Budget Act of 1974 is the law.

            They have managed to do it on time a total of 4 times.

      2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        Wrong.

        Budget Control Act of 2011 had spending cuts all over it including sequestration.

        It was the big mutual accomplishment of Obama and the Teabagger movement and put the trillion dollar Bushpig deficits away until Fatass Donnie brought them back X3.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Then take that up with Peter Suderman.

        2. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Feel like you've been told hundreds of times at this point.

          FY09 was pushed by Schumer and Pelosi and Bush refused to sign it. Obama did when he entered office.

          Obama used TARP repayments to give the appearance of lowering the deficit, if you remove TARP then Obama wildly grew the deficit each year. TARP ended up being deficit neutral. But you idiots add payments to Bush, repayments to Obama to lie about the deficit.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            The CBO said the 09 deficit would be $1.2 trillion while Dumbya was president.

            The budget is just a budget.

            I know you are an idiot when it comes to accounting.

            ACTUAL vs BUDGET is an important concept.

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Skipped right over my comment without reading it seems.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                Pluggo's got an agenda to push and he'll be damned if anyone gets in his way.

              2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago (edited)

                You comment was ignorant.

                The budget is not ACTUAL.

                And TARP was repaid quickly and the deficit still fell 2012-2016 well after repayment.

                PLUS, TARP was not part of that $1.2 trillion deficit because it was offset by the value of the stock the government received for the TARP LOANS. Loans – you idiot.

                And I have proven TARP was off budget/actual.

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

                  My comment was reality and you responded with the same false narrative.

              3. DesigNate   2 years ago

                With as many times as he posts links that refute his point, I’m not sure he actually CAN read.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                  He sure as hell never bothers to read any of the articles he links. Maybe he can read, but he doesn't actually understand nor comprehend the article beyond a kindergarten level of comprehension.

                  1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                    $1.2 trillion deficit looms
                    Housing collapse and financial turmoil leads to steep rise in estimated U.S. shortfall for '09, Congressional Budget Office says.
                    By Jeanne Sahadi, CNNMoney.com senior writer
                    Last Updated: January 7, 2009: 5:00 PM ET

                    https://money.cnn.com/2009/01/07/news/economy/cbo_2009_budget_outlook/

                    While Dumbya was still president. Jan 7, 2009.

                    Case closed.

                    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Hey retard.

                      https://www.thebalancemoney.com/fy-2009-u-s-federal-budget-and-spending-3306311

                      Who signed it?

                      Seriously. Are you just mentally handicapped?

                    2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                      Obama signed it while Dumbya was president in Jan 2009?

                      You really are a moron.

                    3. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      So you are retarded. The article says who signed it dumbass.

                    4. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      For your reading comprehension, Pluggo:

                      As a result, it wasn't signed until President Obama took office in 2009.

                      In other words, not until after noon on January 20, 2009.

                  2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago (edited)

                    The legislation that created the TARP requires that the federal budget display the costs of purchasing or insuring troubled assets using procedures similar to those specified in the Federal Credit Reform Act but adjusting for market risk (in a manner not reflected in that law). In particular, the federal budget should not record the gross cash disbursement for the purchase of a troubled asset (or cash receipt for its eventual sale) but instead should reflect an estimate of the government’s net cost for the purchase. Broadly speaking, the net cost is the purchase cost minus the present value—calculated using an appropriate discount factor that reflects the riskiness of the asset—of any estimated future earnings from holding the asset and the proceeds from the eventual sale of the asset.

                    “Net cost” basis, you moron.

    2. Randy Sax   2 years ago

      How about no capitol police until budget passes?

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Can we at least fund the medals for shooting unarmed terrorists?

      2. Eeyore   2 years ago

        No security for anyone in Congress until it passes.

      3. mamabug   2 years ago

        I propose a 'sudden death' round if they can't pass a budget where a champion is selected to fight to the death for our entertainment, winner take all.

        Politics is just our current version of 'circuses' anyway.

        1. Randy Sax   2 years ago

          Only if we get to pick the combatants. Rogan commentates.

        2. Eeyore   2 years ago (edited)

          It would probably be a more effective form of governance than we have now.

          Elections in general should have the option for a fight to the death.

  16. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    A new study calls bullshit on workplace wellness programs.

    The life coachings will continue until morale improves.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      It's more like
      You are one of the few competent people so we are going to cram your workload, and then if you feel stressed we will suggest you waste your time talking to someone

  17. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)
    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Cat got your tongue?

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Colt 45

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Down on the farm, Boone's Farm.

  18. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Constitutional ban on Theater Kids running anything, at least until we can figure out what's going on.

    Billy Binion hardest hit.

    1. Ersatz   2 years ago

      wasnt the PM of canada a part time drama teacher?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago (edited)

        Part time drama teacher, full time drama queen.

        Probably his hot latin blood.

      2. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   2 years ago

        Yeah, until his wandering hands got him an early release.

  19. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

    ..it also reveals his relative vulnerability among suburban and highly educated voters...

    "I was educated once, took me years to get over it" - Twain.

  20. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Death to awards shows.

    I had zero idea the Emmy's were held last weekend. If they want young viewers they could always add influencer content categories.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Neither did I as the NFL was on. Maybe step one of getting people to watch would be avoid scheduling opposite something more interesting.

      1. Randy Sax   2 years ago

        Now that you're our new employees, I'd like you to have a look at our commercial. I paid to have it aired during the Super Bowl.

        Not on the same channel, of course...
        -Prof Hubert Farnsworth

    2. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   2 years ago

      I didn't click on the link. I honestly thought it was talking about Miss America or something. So the Emmy's were last weekend? Wow.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

        What's an Emmy?

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          It's a small statue, sort of like an Oscar for TV work, but that's not important right now.

    3. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

      I'd love to see a You tube award show, The Ubies. The nominations for just the best cat videos would take hours to read.

  21. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Trump is 100% gonna name Vivek Director of the Bureau of Indian Affairs

    HE KNOWS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DOT AND FEATHER.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      That reference is so racist and outdated
      The difference between 711 and casino
      The difference between the smell of curry and whiskey
      The difference between a caste system and... Oh wait that ones common

  22. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/Niall_Boylan/status/1746828149403316528

    Unless I’m missing something here, you actually couldn’t make this up. Electric buses purchased to avoid using fossil fuels are charged using diesel generators in a depot. This is clear virtue signaling and utter nonsense

    1. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

      If you do not smell diesel fumes when you get on and off the bus, that means it is Green. What you cannot see, hear or smell in the moment does not exist. That is how progressive politicians think.

    2. Zeb   2 years ago

      Does that make them hybrids?

  23. JesseAz   2 years ago

    There isn't vote fraud if you refuse to investigate.

    Case in point: Springfield, Massachusetts, where the FBI is refusing to investigate evidence indicating a potentially illegal election operation involving the city’s mayoral race. In the days leading up to the Nov. 7 contest, surveillance video emerged showing a man affiliated with mayoral candidate Justin Hurst’s campaign “allegedly paying people to vote.” According to a local outlet, election workers testified in signed affidavits that “they noticed groups of people being dropped off for early voting at City Hall, many listing their address as a homeless shelter in Springfield [and] some seemingly intoxicated or under the influence, and confused as to why they were at City Hall.”

    https://thefederalist.com/2024/01/16/why-doesnt-the-fbi-want-to-get-to-the-bottom-of-alleged-massachusetts-cash-for-vote-scheme/

    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      Mass politics are so corrupt it makes Chicago politics look honest.

      1. Chumby   2 years ago

        ^ True

        1. Nelson   2 years ago

          Whoa, whoa, whoa. As someone who grew up outside Chicago and has watched Mike Madigan for years, I would argue that the title remains with Illinois.

          What percentage of recent governors of Massachusetts have been imprisoned? I rest my case.

          1. Chumby   2 years ago

            The best corrupt politicians usually avoid getting put in the pokey. The JV team gets caught and convicted.

    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      No widespread fraud.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Only 1/64th fraud.

        1. Randy Sax   2 years ago

          Mostly fraud-less election.

    3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      What did they do, go to Chicago for lessons?

    4. Nelson   2 years ago

      Signed affidavits, eh? Where have we heard that one before? Oh, right. All the time with the election-fraud nuts. And they are always exposed to be complete nonsense.

      Just because someone says something vague and then signs their name to it doesn't make it credible.

      On the process side, a serious question. Are allegations of voter fraud in elections for local offices like mayor the jurisdiction of local, state, or federal law enforcement? Anyone know?

  24. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    'Former President Donald Trump "showed striking weakness in suburban and urban areas," reports Politico. "So while the data show how Trump has managed to consolidate a majority of Republican support, it also reveals his relative vulnerability among suburban and highly educated voters—raising questions about how he will win over a voting bloc that has long viewed him with skepticism and helped fuel his 2020 loss."'

    Yup, totally not a landslide for Trump, with some electoral walls closing in.

    ps. "Highly educated voters" is code for liberal wine box moms and people with grievance studies degrees, who indeed continue to view Trump with, er, skepticism (aka panic and despair).

    1. Longtobefree   2 years ago

      Yep.
      He lost in one county, so totally a clear sign of 'Biden uber alles'.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

        He only won 98 out 99. Striking weakness.

        1. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

          The one he lost, he lost by 1 vote.

  25. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    Food trucks.

    Police secretly seized Rochdale grooming victim’s aborted foetus, damning review finds
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/rochdale-police-seize-aborted-feotus-b2478961.html

    Police officers working for Greater Manchester Police covertly took the aborted foetus of a 13-year-old grooming victim to be DNA tested without informing her or her parents, according to a damning report.

    A 173-page review of the police and council in Rochdale has revealed a girl had an abortion at Rochdale Hospital at the age of 13 in 2009 after one of her abusers got her pregnant.

    Officers from GMP subsequently seized took the foetus from the hospital, with her or her parents’ consent, so it could undergo forensic examination. The DNA did not match with any potential suspects being investigated at the time.

    The foetus was put in a freezer at Rochdale police station and discovered at a “routine property review” some time later.

    It was not until 2011, ahead of the trial of men who abused her and other victis, that the young girl, referred to as Child 44 in the report, discovered her foetus had been seized. The report’s authors said it was “highly unacceptable” that neither the girl or her parents were told.

    1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

      Rochdale grooming gang: The girl kept in a cage and made to act like a dog, a 15-year-old raped and killed with heroin injection from an abuser and an aborted foetus kept in a freezer by police
      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12964565/rochdale-grooming-gang-victims-horror-stories-fatal-injection.html

      1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

        https://twitter.com/RadioGenoa/status/1747339849869545628

        Illegal immigrants in Italy are angry: “We want pocket money! We want money! We are making many sacrifices because there is no Wi-Fi in hotel! Breakfast is not good, lunch is not good, dinner is not good and rooms are small! We also want clothes new!”

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          When will the suffering end?

        2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Would they rather go back?

          1. Chumby   2 years ago

            For the takers, nothing is ever good enough for them.

        3. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          Sounds like the Monty Python Travel Agent's Sketch:
          https://dai.ly/x36cxnp
          🙂
          😉

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        I like how that article used the "Asian" generalization to cover for the fact that's it's all Muslim immigrants that did this, just like Rotterham, and all enabled by left-liberal fetishization of "diversity."

        "Don't forget that these people want you broke, dead, your children raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny."

        1. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

          All of them were.

          See also
          Child sexual abuse in the United Kingdom
          Derby child sex abuse ring
          Huddersfield grooming gang
          Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse
          Jimmy Savile sexual abuse scandal
          Manchester child sex abuse ring
          Newcastle sex abuse ring
          North Wales child abuse scandal
          Oulu child sexual exploitation scandal
          Oxford child sex abuse ring
          Rochdale child sex abuse ring
          List of sexual abuses perpetrated by groups

      3. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

        Diversity. All cultures are equal.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          But some are more equal than others.

    2. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   2 years ago

      A 173-page review of the police and council in Rochdale has revealed a girl had an abortion at Rochdale Hospital at the age of 13 in 2009 after one of her abusers got her pregnant.

      Children can make their own decisions.

    3. DesigNate   2 years ago

      “The report’s authors said it was “highly unacceptable” that neither the girl or her parents were told.”

      Not sure why the police would need permission to collect a clump of cells to try and figure out who the rapist was.

      1. Nelson   2 years ago

        I was wondering the same thing. I don't know if they have the same thing in the UK, but isn't it legal for police to take things that are thrown away?

        Maybe it's different with medical waste? Anyone know?

    4. mamabug   2 years ago

      It's shoddy and they should have told the girl and her parents if she was pressing charges.

      Using the body of a child who's murder was arranged by the same group that raped another child in order to convict them is not something I disagree with in principle.

      1. Nelson   2 years ago

        Still not murder. And as long as society doesn't completely lose our minds, it never will be.

  26. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

    The United States is weighing whether to re-designate the Houthis as a terrorist group following dozens of strikes on commercial ships in the Red Sea (and retribution for those attacks doled out by the U.S. and allies).

    They're not terrorists. They're just a bunch of extremists using violence on random targets to advance a political end. What's so difficult to understand?

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      Send Biden a photo of the houthis wearing Maga hats, Yemen will be nuked whiting the hour

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago

        Make Yemen Great For The First Time!

        1. Beezard   2 years ago

          Be fair. Im sure they were the shit back in the 600s.

  27. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    'There's a New York law on the books that forces taxpayer funds to be used to reimburse public officials if they're prosecuted for a crime but not convicted.'

    There need to be laws on the books to hold public officials criminally and financially liable for stupid things they do in office. We may not get much money back, but at least the idiots will suffer with the rest of us.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   2 years ago

      You don't need a law to go after politicians. We're doing just fine with Trump.

  28. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    Pfizer Quietly Financed Groups Lobbying for COVID Vaccine Mandates
    Many of the supposedly independent consumer, medical and civil rights groups that created the appearance of broad support for the mandate received funding from one of the vaccines’ manufacturers.
    https://www.leefang.com/p/pfizer-quietly-financed-groups-lobbying

    Pfizer’s grant to the Chicago Urban League was one of many that Pfizer made to nonprofits and trade organizations. Pfizer doled out special funding to groups across the country that lobbied in favor of government policies to mandate the COVID-19 vaccine.

    The extensive list of those with funding from the pharmaceutical giant includes consumer, doctor, and medical groups, as well as public health organizations and civil rights nonprofits. Many of those groups did not disclose the funding they received from Pfizer while they were advocating for policies that would force workers to get the vaccine.

    1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

      Moderna Surveillance Operation Targeted Independent Media Voices
      The second part of our investigation shows how Moderna carefully monitored and attacked voices questioning mandates, industry profiteering, and the efficacy and safety of childhood vaccinations.
      https://www.leefang.com/p/moderna-surveillance-operation-targeted

      To get past the “misinformation” and convince the public to take continual booster shots, Garay briefly noted that Moderna was “delving down” on ways to partner “across the ecosystem to make sure consumers are educated on the need for the vaccine.”

      What Garay hinted at during the call, but didn’t disclose, was that Moderna already had a sprawling media operation in place aimed at identifying and responding to critics of vaccine policy and the drug industry. A series of internal company reports and communications reviewed by RealClearInvestigations show that Moderna has worked with former law enforcement and public health officials and a drug industry-funded non-governmental organization called The Public Good Projects (PGP) to confront the “root cause of vaccine hesitancy” by rapidly identifying and “shutting down misinformation.”

      Part of this effort includes providing talking points to some 45,000 healthcare professionals “on how to respond when vaccine misinformation goes mainstream.” PGP and Moderna have created a new partnership, called the “Infodemic Training Program,” to prepare health care workers to respond to alleged vaccine-related misinformation.

      The company has also used artificial intelligence to monitor millions of global online conversations to shape the contours of vaccine-related discussion. The internal files -- shorthanded here as the Moderna Reports -- show high-profile vaccine critics were closely monitored, particularly skeptics in independent media, including Michael Shellenberger, Russell Brand, and Alex Berenson. PGP, which was funded by a $1,275,000 donation from the Biotechnology and Innovation Organization, a lobby group representing Pfizer and Moderna, has identified alleged vaccine misinformation and helped facilitate the removal of content from Twitter, among other social media platforms, throughout 2021 and 2022.

    2. Nelson   2 years ago (edited)

      “Pfizer Quietly Financed Groups Lobbying for COVID Vaccine Mandates”

      Wait, corporations rent seek? I’m shocked.

  29. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    'Some San Francisco tenants are trying a rent strike.'

    How long before SFC look's like Snake Blisken's Manhattan?

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Well, there's your sequel: Escape From San Francisco.

    2. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   2 years ago

      That would take quite a lot of improvement to get there. I don't see it any time soon.

  30. sarcasmic   2 years ago

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12973141/Fans-wild-iconic-band-reunite-10-years-Coachella-2024-Im-actually-losing-mind.html

    Fans go wild as iconic band reunite after almost 10 years for Coachella 2024: 'I'm actually losing my mind!!!'

    There is no doubt in my mind that I won't be looking for that performance on YouTube. No doubt whatsoever.

    1. Chumby   2 years ago

      They couldn’t get Four Non Blondes or Dinosaur Jr?

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        hey! what's going on?

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        Candlebox was also otherwise booked.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      It's honestly pretty hilarious how No Doubt basically became the Gen-X/Millennial version of the Eagles.

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        ^^ Don Henley. rolling in his grave.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          You're probably thinking of Glenn Frey, although Henley's probably going to kick off any time now. Those fuckers are all in their mid-70s.

          1. Dillinger   2 years ago

            it's entirely more funny when the guy rolling in his grave is still alive.

    3. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   2 years ago

      This is my favorite comment:

      Duggie boy
      DONCASTER, United Kingdom
      1 hour ago

      who are they. never heard of them. you found about 10 fans to wild about them. I wouldn't say this was alot of people

      1. Chumby   2 years ago

        Promoters responded to the young lad with, “Don’t speak.”

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Must've been Hella Good.

        2. Dillinger   2 years ago

          leave a message and I'll call you back.

        3. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   2 years ago

          It's proof once again that if you're deriding "millennials" as the young whipper snappers, you're more out of touch than they are.

          Millennials: No Doubt's reuniting at Coachella
          Zoomers: Who? Where?

          1. Chumby   2 years ago

            Millennials did not pounce.

  31. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    So, school is now optional? That fits with another emerging ethic: work is optional.

    1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      In our present Welfare State, yes, but not necessarily in a Libertarian society with Separation of Education and State. Private-schooled, Homeschooled or Unschooled kids could grow to be industrious professionals or entrepreneurs.

  32. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/mirandadevine/status/1747422761729896749

    In a new court filing today, the DOJ confirms Hunter Biden’s laptop is real, that he left it at a computer store, and that the contents matched what they obtained from a search warrant of his iCloud.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Weiss also stated they found drugs on his gun left in a dumpster.

    2. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

      Facts changed yet again.

    3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      That only took them four years to figure it out.

    4. Moonrocks   2 years ago

      All I'm hearing is DICK PICS!!!1!

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        10% FOR THE FAT ORANGE GUY!

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Cite and link?

        2. Chumby   2 years ago

          Jeff’s now orange?!?!

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            He definitely doesn't eat fruit and veggies.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Cheetos are orange.

              1. Chumby   2 years ago

                Doritos with orange Fanta.

    5. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   2 years ago

      Wait, hasn't this already long passed into the "Ok, it's real, but it's not as bad as you say" territory?

      1. Super Scary   2 years ago

        For sure. We're quickly moving to "That is old news! Why are you talking about that?!

      2. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

        Is it not "A Good Thing" yet?

  33. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    Video: EU President Calls For Globalist Control Over All Information

    https://modernity.news/2024/01/17/video-eu-president-calls-for-globalist-control-over-all-information/

    Addressing the elite as “Excellencies,” and personally naming “dear” Klaus Schwabb in her introduction, von der Leyen further called for the development of “a new global framework for AI risks,” and a vow to “drive global collaboration” to prevent the spread of ‘misinformation’ (information they don’t want you to know about).

    1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

      https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1747343508174762293

      NEW - WEF president Brende: "What are we able to keep, on the positive side, from the old order to bring into a new world order."

  34. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    How much of our tax $$ went to creating this?

    Chinese scientists 'create' a mutant coronavirus strain that attacks the BRAIN and has a 100% kill rate in mice - as they admit there's a 'risk it spills over to humans'
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12969105/chinese-scientists-lab-coronavirus-kill-rate-mice.html

    1. Eeyore   2 years ago (edited)

      I’m guessing China didn’t have to spend a single Yuan.

  35. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    From He Who Is Not To Be Named:

    But this one-sided portrayal of Trump as a potential dictator ignores the abuses of power perpetrated by Democrats and anti-Trump government bureaucrats over the last seven years. In partnership with civil society and the mainstream media, federal government agencies created a vast censorship network and appear to have used offensive counterterrorism and influence tactics against the American people after 2016.

    And in 2020, Democrats pursued strategies that closely resembled color revolution techniques used abroad. These activities, in addition to a pattern of entrapment and demonization of Trump supporters as violent domestic extremists, were anti-democratic and authoritarian.

    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      But this one-sided portrayal of Trump as a potential dictator ignores the abuses of power perpetrated by Democrats and anti-Trump government bureaucrats over the last seven years.

      It's ok for Trump to be a dictator because Democrats did it first.

      1. Was it something I said?   2 years ago

        What specific dictatoral actions will Trump take should he win?

        1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          Whatever they are they will be justified because Democrats did it first.

          1. VinniUSMC   2 years ago

            Whatever Democrats do is justified because Trump.

            1. Krokko   2 years ago

              Especially because of Trump's skin color...

          2. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Anyone else notice sarc can never back up his assertions?

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              I think that's everyone not named "Jeff" or "Pluggo".

          3. NealAppeal   2 years ago

            Of course, you could have looked at Trump's actual record when he really was President and single out the many ways in which he took over as dictator...waiting for specifics here...

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              I for one am shocked youre still waiting. At any moment sarc is sure to back up his assertions with evidence for the first time.

            2. DesigNate   2 years ago

              I’m including from the administration since he was supposed to be in charge:

              Bump stock ban, Eviction moratorium, Defense Production Act for ventilators?

              Those are the only three that I can remember off the top of my head. Pretty sure everything else was more executive orders rescinding Obama’s unconstitutional orders (like Paris Deal, etc.)

              1. HorseConch   2 years ago

                Those are dumb, very anti-freedom, and not in the slightest to make me think he could be a dictator. I guess all the political prisoners and assassinations were kept quiet by his compliant press.

      2. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

        Of course, the Democrats justify their abuses of power with "because otherwise Trump".

    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      If people would just do the right thing, government wouldn’t have to force them.

      /jeff

      1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

        You would do the same thing if you were in their position!

        /also jeff

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Stop asking me why I think this and why I would've done the same thing!

          /again, jeff

    3. JesseAz   2 years ago

      You forget... Democrats have "good intentions" to justify it.

      1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        Saying Democrats have "good intentions" is not meant to justify what they do. It means that they are operating in good faith, and don't know they are wrong. As opposed to you who operates in bad faith, fully knowing you are wrong.

        1. Super Scary   2 years ago

          If what they are doing now is with "good intentions" I certainly don't want to be around when they do stuff with bad ones.

        2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

          Like yesterday, when Jesse said he said something “tongue in cheek”, and you quoted that and said “in other words, you lied”.
          Then, just a few posts later, your defense for a lying accusation was “I said it in a mocking way”.

          You are legitimately terrible at argument, have no self awareness, and are a complete hypocritical hack.

          Here’s a couple of hints for you - Democrats acting like evil dictators for the last 8 years Is The Problem, not a whatabout for supposed future Trump misdeeds.

          And mocking Ashli Babbit is mocking Ashli Babbit, not some commentary on other posters. Just like mocking Oct 7 victims is not some broad commentary on the Israel lobby in the US Congress

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

            No dude, Jesse lied. He lies about people to goad them into defending themselves, then keeps on lying. It’s all he does.

            As far as Saint Babbit goes, nobody would call her that if there wasn’t a loud chorus of Trump’s Deranged Supporters crying “Whatabout Ashli Babbit?” every single fucking time there’s a story about a police shooting. Every shooting now is about her. And will be for the next decade at least.

            1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

              It's different when Sarc does it.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                Of course. He's got some real nuggets across this thread this morning.

            2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

              As ever, terrible hypocritical hack with no self awareness

            3. JesseAz   2 years ago

              No. I didn't. Sorry you got confused with present tense vs past tense.

              You've defended every DoJ abuse against conservatives. It is a natural assertion you'd defend lying on the stand to defend a conviction of a J6 protestor. I mean you defend shooting an unarmed woman.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                Which is especially odd since Sarc is in the ACAB camp. One might think he'd defend the unarmed woman against the cop.

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  His TDS is stronger than criticism of the state. And his lack of principles.

          2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            Oh, I didn't catch that. You're comparing Babbit to Israeli victims? Wow, that's a new level of deranged.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Dude, you've gone full retard. Never go full retard.

          3. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

            Oh give it a rest. It is sadly commonplace around here to accuse an opponent of LYING when they just make an incorrect statement. Because evidently the knee-jerk reaction is that everyone who is on the 'other side' acts in bad faith and has bad intentions. So ANY incorrect statement is equivalent to the purposeful deception of a lie.

            What would really help to improve the discourse around here, is if you and your team would stop assuming bad intentions and bad motives of everyone you come across who thinks just a little bit differently than you.

            1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

              And if they don’t, the government will force them.

          4. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago (edited)

            Democrats acting like evil dictators for the last 8 years Is The Problem, not a whatabout for supposed future Trump misdeeds.

            Yes we know. When Democrats act like authoritarian dickheads, it’s because they are evil dictators. When Republicans act like authoritarian dickheads, it’s because they have no choice, the Democrats made them do it, stop criticizing Trump, blah blah blah.

            1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

              Poor sarc.

            2. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

              I thought that when Democrats did it, it was because they had to prevent Trump (or any other Republican) from doing fascism. Or to save Democracy!

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                I am sure that is what they tell themselves.

        3. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

          That is incredibly hilarious.

        4. JesseAz   2 years ago

          This could be the dumbest thing ever written here. Democrats are open with their plans. They are open about their desire to control. But you want to justify it based on narratives and words.

          You are basically defending benevolent authoritarianism.

          There is no good faith in seeking to take away individual choice. It is about control. Wake the fuck up.

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

            Democrats are open with their plans. They are open about their desire to control.

            now do Republicans

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              OK, cite and link them here. I can show you a governor who continued his own emergency declaration every 30 days in spite of the law stating that the General Assembly had to do it. He's probably as fat as you.

            2. DesigNate   2 years ago

              I thought Republicans don’t really stand for anything and don’t make plans?

              1. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

                They can't stand, no spines.

        5. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   2 years ago

          It means that they are operating in good faith, and don’t know they are wrong

          I'm keeping that one.

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

            But he's right.

            If you seriously, genuinely, sincerely think that the reason why blue state governors issued mask mandates and lockdowns in 2020 was in order to purposefully subjugate and control the population using the virus as a mere pretext for their evil devilish schemes of tyranny, then you're insane.

            1. Nobartium   2 years ago

              But that's exactly what they did.

              In fact, many did so specifically to hurt Trump's re-election.

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                You're a paranoid moron.

                1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

                  The masks didn’t stop the infections.

                  1. MK Ultra   2 years ago

                    Neither did the "vaccines".

                2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                  Projecting much, Jeffy? You're the one who has been more than paranoid over Covid in many a comment here.

                  1. Chumby   2 years ago

                    People should have arrived at a shared collective truth to don a face diaper through critical reasoning or government should step in and require it.

                    1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      Oh fuck you. You continually get this wrong, and deliberately so, because you've become a dishonest cunt on this.

                      There is a difference between the following two statements:

                      1. If you don't do X, then government will force you to do X.
                      2. If you do X, then there will be no need for government to force you to do X.

                      MY position is #2. YOU continually and deliberately misstate that and state is as if it is #1. Because you refuse to see that most of the time, when government initiates its coercion, it doesn't do so out of spite or happenstance, it does so to address a perceived problem. If we want to avoid the government coercion, it behooves all of us to try to address the problem OURSELVES before government gets around to trying to implement its 'solution'.

                      Asshats like you could stand to learn that social problems exist, most of the time they are not created by government but exist independent of government, and that even if we lived in a state of pure Libertopia, those social problems would still exist and it would be up to individuals to address them. If individuals DON'T address those social problems, then - guess what - government steps in and 'solves' it for us. That is what we want to AVOID.

                    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      "Libertarians for more government"

                    3. DesigNate   2 years ago

                      “1. If you don’t do X, then government will force you to do X.
                      2. If you do X, then there will be no need for government to force you to do X.”

                      There is no fundamental difference between the two as the second one necessarily implies the first.

                      Tankie: If you give up the means of production to the proletariat, there will be no need for the community to take it. Capitalist: What happens if I dont give up the means of production to the proletariat?

                    4. Chumby   2 years ago

                      People should have arrived at a shared collective truth to don a face diaper through critical reasoning or government should step in and require it.
                      - me

                      If individuals DON’T address those social problems, then - guess what - government steps in and ‘solves’ it for us.
                      - you

                      ‘should’ and ‘does’ are not identical but the statements have a lot of Venn diagram overlap. Feel free to gish gallop around that, it would be amusing for the “mean girls.”

                      Your premise is an either/or fallacy.

                      More government is not a solution. You and anyone else are free to fund the solutions you prefer to whatever problems you feel require attention. Subsidizing poor decisions results in more of them being made.

                    5. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      More government is not a solution.

                      AND WE AGREE ON THIS! That is what is so frustrating. Why can't you see this?

                      Bottom line: Social problems exist, whether or not the government is run by Republicans or Democrats or Libertarians or aliens from Mars. Social problems exist whether or not there even IS a government.

                      The difference here is, I recognize this and I think individuals should step up and do something about it ON THEIR OWN, WITHOUT GOVERNMENT COERCION.

                      Because do you know what will happen if NO ONE DOES ANYTHING about a social problem? It doesn't just magically go away you know.

                      What will happen, is that the statists and the authoritarians and the busybody do-gooders will say "Look, no one is doing anything about this social problem, that means, it's time for government to do something about it! Because that's their job! To fix everything!"

                      And then, individuals will NO LONGER have the option of CHOICE as to how to address a social problem. We will all be coerced by the state to 'solve' it in the way that the state determines.

                    6. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      Your statement:

                      People should have arrived at a shared collective truth to don a face diaper through critical reasoning or government should step in and require it.

                      That second "should" is where you are wrong. I am not saying that government should step in to solve a social problem. I am saying that government WILL step in to solve a social problem IF individuals do nothing about it. Because that is what tends to happen.

                    7. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      “1. If you don’t do X, then government will force you to do X.
                      2. If you do X, then there will be no need for government to force you to do X.”

                      There is no fundamental difference between the two as the second one necessarily implies the first.

                      That is not true. Because with #2, individuals retain the option of CHOICE. They COULD do X. Or they COULD do Y, which would have the same effect as X, but do it more efficiently. Or they COULD do Z, which would accomplish the same goal of X and also accomplish goals A and B as well as a side-benefit. But if no one does anything, then it is a near-certainty that government will force us all to do X, and we will have lost the choice to even try Y or Z.

                    8. Chumby   2 years ago

                      Argumentum ad tldr

                      Fix your premise fallacy.

                    9. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago (edited)

                      Argumentum ad tldr

                      Got it. You lie about me, don’t care, and don’t bother reading the response. Are you Jesse?

                      Fix your premise fallacy.

                      What is the alleged premise fallacy that you want me to fix?

                      You want me to claim that if a social problem exists, and no one does anything about it, that it will just magically resolve itself?

                      Suppose we live in a state of whatever flavor of Libertopia that you wish. There is no welfare state, yet there is still poverty and hunger and homelessness. Right? So what is the standard libertarian solution here? "Private charity will step in and provide aid to the needy." Great! But there have to be people willing to do that work. If those people don't exist, then there is no aid, and the poverty goes unaddressed. THEN WHAT? What do you think is a likely result here?

                    10. DesigNate   2 years ago

                      I understand you think there’s a choice.

                      What I’m saying (won’t speak for anyone else) is that if government WILL step in to solve a social problem IF individuals do nothing about it, then there isn’t an actual choice between those two options.

                      It’s like saying you have the choice not to pay the mobster the protection money when the only other choice is not pay and have your business burnt down.

                      All of this elides the fact that social distancing and masking weren’t social issues the government ever needed to get involved in in the first place. And, as a libertarian, it is just as rational to mock the people that demanded such as it is to mock the watermelons that demand government action on global climate change.

                    11. DesigNate   2 years ago

                      “But there have to be people willing to do that work. If those people don’t exist, then there is no aid, and the poverty goes unaddressed. THEN WHAT? What do you think is a likely result here?”

                      I have some faith in humanity still so I think that it’s unlikely no one would put in the work.

                      But to answer your question of “Then what?” (though I suspect you won’t like the answer): In Libertopia (as far as a government is concerned), nothing. Much as the libertarian answer to any social issue concerning government action.

                      A libertopian government that forced people to take care of the less fortunate would cease to be libertarian.

                      Barring that, at some point I’m sure some people would attempt to FAAFO.

            2. Ajsloss   2 years ago

              Why would they then violate the mandates that they issued? Nothing says "in bad faith" better than rules for thee, not for me.

            3. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   2 years ago

              Once it was clear that masks didn't work, and everyone kind of knew masks didn't work, masks became symbols of compliance.

              1. Chumby   2 years ago

                It was a visual indicator of who swallowed the blue pill narrative.

            4. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

              One mayor, in Champaign IL, issued a set of emergency orders that basically gave her unlimited power. I'll just list the first and last of her 30 self-proclaimed emergency powers:
              The mayor shall be permitted to:
              (1) Issue such other orders as are imminently necessary for the protection of life and property.

              (30) Issue any and all such other orders or undertake such other functions and activities as the Mayor reasonably believes is required to protect the health, safety, and welfare of persons or property within the City or otherwise preserve the public peace or abate, clean up, or mitigate the effects of any emergency or disaster.

              The only check on her "powers" was that the City Council could vote to override her orders. But we have item

              (11) Temporarily suspend, limit, cancel, convene, reschedule, postpone, continue, or relocate all meetings of the City Council, and any City committee, commission, board, authority, or other City body as deemed appropriate by the Mayor.

              So if she indefinitely suspends all City Council meetings, the City Council cannot vote to override her orders, such orders can be ANYTHING THE MAYOR WANTS, all she has to do is say "public health". And P.S., she claimed her powers extended 2 miles beyond the city limits. How is this anything but a dictatorship?

            5. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

              Just as reminder, I had to imagine that the mayor of Champaign IL *had* to have had her maniacal plan at the ready, probably in a special red folder in the center drawer of her desk, just waiting for the chance to unleash her dream of ultimate power. This was her set of orders on March 13th, 2020. And they call Trump "authoritarian".

              https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/wandtv.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/5/51/551ced24-6535-11ea-9826-4f4fd396dacb/5e6b960454b21.pdf.pdf

              After the declaration of an emergency, the Mayor may in the interest of public safety and welfare make any or all of the following orders and provide the following direction:

              (1) Issue such other orders as are imminently necessary for the protection of life and property.
              (2) Order a general curfew applicable to such geographical areas of the City or to the City as a whole, as the Mayor deems advisable, and applicable during such hours of the day or night as the Mayor deems necessary in the interest of public safety and welfare.
              (3) Order the closing of all retail liquor stores, including taverns and private clubs or portions thereof wherein the consumption of intoxicating liquor and beer is permitted;
              (4) Order the discontinuance of the sale of alcoholic liquor by any wholesaler or retailer;
              (5) Order the discontinuance of selling, distributing, or giving away gasoline or other liquid flammable or combustible products in any container other than a gasoline tank properly affixed to a motor vehicle;
              (6) Order the discontinuance of selling, distributing, dispensing or giving away of explosives or explosive agents, firearms or ammunition of any character whatsoever;
              (7) Order the control, restriction and regulation within the City by rationing, issuing quotas, fixing or freezing prices, allocating the use, sale or distribution of food, fuel, clothing and other commodities, materials, goods or services or the necessities of life;
              (8) (a) Order City employees or agents, on behalf of the City, to take possession of any real or personal property of any person, or to acquire full title or such lesser interest as may be necessary to deal with a disaster or emergency, and to take possession of and for a limited time, occupy and use any real estate to accomplish alleviation of the disaster, or the effects thereof; (b) In the event any real or personal property is utilized by the City, the City shall be liable to the owner thereof for the reasonable value of the use or for just compensation as the case may be.
              (9) Order restrictions on ingress or egress to parts of the City to limit the occupancy of any premises;
              (10) To make provision for the availability and use of temporary emergency housing;
              (11) Temporarily suspend, limit, cancel, convene, reschedule, postpone, continue, or relocate all meetings of the City Council, and any City committee, commission, board, 6 authority, or other City body as deemed appropriate by the Mayor.
              (12) Require closing of business establishments.
              (13) Prohibit the sale or distribution within the City of any products which could be employed in a manner which would constitute a danger to public safety.
              (14) Temporarily close any and all streets, alleys, sidewalks, bike paths, public parks or public ways.
              (15) Temporarily suspend or modify, for not more than sixty (60) days, any regulation or ordinance of the City, including, but not limited to, those regarding health, safety, and zoning. This period may be extended upon approval of the City Council.
              (16) Suspend or limit the use of the water resources or other infrastructure.
              (17) Control, restrict, allocate, or regulate the use, sale, production, or distribution of food, water, fuel, clothing, and/or other commodities, materials, goods, services and resources.
              (18) Suspend or limit burning of any items or property with the City limits and up to two (2) miles outside the corporate limits.
              (19) Direct and compel the evacuation of all or part of the population from any stricken or threatened areas within the City if the mayor deems this action is necessary for the preservation of life, property, or other disaster or emergency mitigation, response or recovery and to prescribe routes, modes of transportation and destination in connection with an evacuation.
              [sic, 20 omitted in original]
              (21) Approve application for local, state, or federal assistance.
              (22) Establish and control routes of transportation, ingress or egress.
              (23) Control ingress and egress from any designated disaster or emergency area or home, building or structures located therein.
              (24) Approve the transfer the direction, personnel, or functions of City departments and agencies for the purpose of performing or facilitating emergency or disaster services.
              (25) Accept services, gifts, grants, loans, equipment, supplies, and/or materials whether from private, nonprofit, or governmental sources.
              (26) Require the continuation, termination, disconnection, or suspension of natural gas, electrical power, water, sewer, communication or other public utilities or infrastructure.
              (27) Close or cancel the use of any municipally owned or operated building or other public facility.
              (28) Declare, issue, enforce, modify and terminate orders for quarantine and isolation of 7 persons or animals posing a threat to the public, not conflicting with the directions of the Health Officer of the community.
              (29) Exercise such powers and functions in light of the exigencies of emergency or disaster including the waiving of compliance with any time consuming procedures and formalities, including notices, as may be prescribed by law.
              (30) Issue any and all such other orders or undertake such other functions and activities as the Mayor reasonably believes is required to protect the health, safety, and welfare of persons or property within the City or otherwise preserve the public peace or abate, clean up, or mitigate the effects of any emergency or disaster.

              Notice how if the City Council were to start to question her orders, she could suspend meetings of the City Council.

      2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago (edited)

        No no no. Democrats never have good intentions. They are innately evil, scarcely human you see. More like vermin.

        Republicans on the other hand have good intentions most of the time, and should be given the benefit of the doubt. They are innately superior people.

        Republicans are the Real Americans who must shoulder the burden of saving the Republic from the evil sinister Democrats. Republicans are entitled to be in charge because the health of the Republic is in their hands. They are ordained by God and Jesus and George Washington to be the saviors of the Republic.

        Democrats on the other hand have as their only mission to undermine and destroy America. To vote for a Democrat is to vote against America. Everybody knows that!

        1. DesigNate   2 years ago

          This, but unironically (except the bit about Republicans being entitled to be in charge and ordained by god. I don’t think anyone here has even come close to alluding to that, though I’m sure some muffin head somewhere has said it.)

          But seriously, there is no question that Democrats want control over us. For fucks sake, they can’t even just decriminalize drugs or prostitution (things they are allegedly good on) without trying to manipulate, tax, and control the market through extra layers of bureaucracy.

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

            But seriously, there is no question that Democrats want control over us.

            BOTH TEAMS DO. Do you *really* think that when they run around banning books from school libraries and banning transgender health care and banning women from getting abortions, that they are *really* only motivated to do it "for the sake of the children"? Really?

            They are doing it, at least in large part, to control all the rest of us too. They are banning gay-themed books in schools not merely to "protect the children", but ALSO to indoctrinate them into being more hostile towards LGBTQ ideas; they want to enact broad social change via indoctrination in the schools. They are banning transgender health care because they want the "confused" kids to be forced to choose one gender or the other; they want to enforce their idea of gender roles onto everyone. They want to ban abortion because they think they know best how women ought to live their sexual lives. Why do you think that so many of the anti-abortion people around here spend so much of their time chastising supposedly slutty women who can't keep their legs closed? Isn't it about "saving the baby's life" and not moral condemnation? Oh no - it is because their opposition to abortion is rooted in large part in opposition to a sexually permissive lifestyle.

            The modern-day incarnation of the Republican Party is choosing culture-war issues because they want to use the power of the state to control people into adopting their cultural values.

    4. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      Trump the "dictator" was widely criticized in the media for not being authoritarian enough on the chinavirus. The fearmongering around trump dictatorship is all nonsense.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        The fearmongering around trump dictatorship is all nonsense.

        And projection. Compare and contrast Trump with Biden.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Whatever you do don't compare their actions. Words matter the most. And Biden "recognizes" the constitution with his words, trump only woth actions.

          1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

            Most people caterwauling about Trump being a dictator cheered governors and public health officials acting like dictators!

          2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

            Words matter the most.

            Case in point: Biden's "red speech"

    5. Nelson   2 years ago

      Now tell me about the child sex ring in the basement of a pizzeria with no basement, the harvesting of adrenochrome by a cult of satanic child traffickers, or the truckloads of fake ballots (or suitcases, or ... something else full of fake ballots).

  36. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    Death to award shows? But events like the Oscars reveal the elite model for national governance: privileged, right-thinking people produce ideologically sound messages, they release these (with proper packaging and curated delivery) to the masses, and then they tell us which stories and story-tellers are the best.

    Just like "democracy".

  37. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/HumanEvents/status/1729949199188283635
    .
    @MikeBenzCyber
    to
    @JackPosobiec
    : "The BlackRock had a meeting with Joe Biden that basically assured their support behind his presidency."

    1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

      https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1673042281652166657

      Video: Blackrock CEO Larry Fink: "Markets don't like uncertainty, markets like totalitarian governments..."

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        Well, shit, then by his logic, he should be working to get Trump back in office, then!

        1. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 years ago

          Trump only has 'potential' to be Authoritarian. He has to prove himself first to get in with the in crowd.

    2. Super Scary   2 years ago

      Come on man, it's 2024. You're supposed to say African-AmericanRock.

      1. Randy Sax   2 years ago

        Rock of color

        1. Jefferson Paul   2 years ago

          Just don't get mixed up and say "colored rock," or you have committed a hate crime.

  38. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    Former President Donald Trump "showed striking weakness in suburban and urban areas," reports Politico

    So, as it always was. Keep trying Politico. You're so cute.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Blame the hicks.

      1. Nelson   2 years ago

        I thought they were called "deplorables" now. Hillary Clinton said so.

  39. sarcasmic   2 years ago

    What do you get when you combine Hunter's penis, McDonalds French fries, and an aircraft carrier?

    That's right, a dictatorship!

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   2 years ago

      The core of Biden's foreign policy.

    2. DesigNate   2 years ago

      That was almost Chumby worthy. I larfed.

  40. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1747384319981830185

    BREAKING: New proposed bill in Maine says the state can take custody of a kid if the parents oppose s*x change surgery and the chemical castration of their kids.

    1. Super Scary   2 years ago

      So we've gone from "It's not happening to children" to "We want the government to take the child away to make it happen." Astonishing.

      1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

        Such a law would have been inconceivable in the mid-1990's!

    2. Moonrocks   2 years ago

      Wait, I thought Maine banned conversion therapy in general and not just for kids. What gives? Is some conversion therapy more acceptable than others?

    3. Nelson   2 years ago

      I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that this is a gross mischaracterizatuon of what is actually happening.

  41. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    Highly concerning:

    " Chronic absenteeism nearly doubled after the pandemic school closures and has improved only slightly since."

    I dont see the problem here. The less time in public school the better.

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

      That was my thinking as well.

  42. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    So while the data show how Trump has managed to consolidate a majority of Republican support, it also reveals his relative vulnerability among suburban and highly educated voters

    Donnie has said he likes the uneducated voters.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      "Educated" voters. More like indoctrinated voters.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   2 years ago

        "Credentialed" voters. Few of which are educated.

    2. Pepin the short   2 years ago

      I’m sure he’ll take them over you and the pedophile voter block.

    3. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

  43. Minadin   2 years ago

    You can tell the Babylon Bee joke was funny because Left-Wing Twitter (Formerly X) lost their shit.

    1. Randy Sax   2 years ago

      The bureau of injun affairs joke was funnier than the 7/11 joke imo.

    2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      Now to Trump Deranged Supporters losing their shit when people joke about Him.

      1. Randy Sax   2 years ago

        Your attempt to rebrand TDS isn't working....

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago (edited)

          In fact, it’s Terrible, Deranged, and Stupid.

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            Trump Derangement Syndrome is just a way to dismiss criticism with an ad hominem, which is why you like it so much.

            Trump's Deranged Supporters is just a description of the cult of personality that surrounds the man, and how his defenders believe some really stupid shit.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Trump Derangement Syndrome, and Bush Derangement Syndrome prior to that (and there are others out there) was how some people tend to lose their shit when there's any mention of the politician involved, regardless of the context said politician was mentioned in. Let's take you, Sarc, and how you drag your own dislike of Trump into any and all threads here. It's a textbook derangement syndrome. You just cannot let go of the politician and feel the need to drag everyone else into your own dislike of the man. Honestly, it's stupid and tiresome.

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

                Telling how you left out Birthers and other deranged right wingers who were crying about Obama for eight long years.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                  Note that I said the following:

                  ...(and there are others out there) was how some people tend to lose their shit when there’s any mention of the politician involved, regardless of the context said politician was mentioned in.

                  To include others, other than just Trump and Bush (two of the more notable instances of derangement syndrome in the past couple decades). There were people who lost their shit over Obama without any reason, and there were people who've lost it over certain governors and other politicians the same way. Much the same way as you seem to lose it over Trump.

                  1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                    Do you use mirrors when you backpedal?

                    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Full retard achieved.

                2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                  Well of course. ITL is just a Republican. He probably thinks calling Obama a Muslim Kenyan Marxist was a fair criticism.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    Sorry, retard, but no. Obama was born in Hawaii as an American citizen. As for him being a Marxist, that's more likely. As for me, I have no party affiliation.

                    1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      As for me, I have no party affiliation.

                      lol whatever, Trump cultist

                    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      Whatever, Covid cultist.

                    3. DesigNate   2 years ago

                      Mmmm, taste the collectivism.

                    4. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      I'm sorry, but if you cannot bring yourself to condemn even one of Trump's many many many character flaws, on its own, without whataboutisms or deflections or comparison to Obama or Pelosi or anyone else, then that makes you no better than a Trump cultist. Because that is what cultists do - they believe in the infallibility of their cult leader. When the cult leader does something right, then All Praise to the Cult Leader and all must bow down and worship his wisdom. When the cult leader does something wrong, then he had a good reason and the leader works in mysterious ways and he can't be held responsible for circumstances beyond his control and we must carry our faith in the All Wise Cult Leader that he will see us through.

              2. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

                Let’s take you, Sarc, and how you drag your own dislike of Trump into any and all threads here.

                Lol. No, that’s you dismissing criticism of policies and behavior with accusations of disliking the man. Just a typical ad hominem, the go-to argument in these comments.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                  You dragged your dislike of Trump into a freaking food article, twit.

                  1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                    Sure buddy, whatever you say.

                  2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

                    Zero self awareness

            2. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Still not an ad hominem. You almost never make an actual argument. Insults are just insults.

          2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            For example Trump Derangement Syndrome was the standard response to criticism of his trade war policies. Don't like his policies? You're deranged. No need to defend the policies themselves. Just call the person deranged. That kind of behavior is deranged.

            1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

              You have a link, you lying hack? Because every time i saw the subject brought up here, the standard defense was “there is no free trade with the Chinese, they are notorious bad actors and thieves, and pretending otherwise harms our national security”

        2. JesseAz   2 years ago

          But he coined it. He hates people pointing out his actual TDS.

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            Do you sneer when you type?

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Are you projecting again?

      2. Minadin   2 years ago

        This was also a joke about Trump.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          It's actually pretty notable that Trump's supporters didn't lose their shit over this, nor did Vivek's, but the progtards did.

          1. Minadin   2 years ago

            To be fair, some RINO's also lost theirs.

  44. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    Blue States Are Hiring Illegals as Police, Giving Them Guns
    https://pjmedia.com/kevindowneyjr/2024/01/16/car-54-donde-estas-states-pushing-to-hire-illegals-as-police-n4925538

    Another nefarious scheme the left has come up with in the days since the likely overdose death of saintly George Floyd was to deplete police forces nationwide. Blue cities happily defunded police departments and demoralized their law officers to the point that we saw cops quitting or retiring in record numbers.

    And voilà, the liberals have concocted yet another ruse to "fix" a problem they created: hire illegal immigrants as cops and give them guns. What could go wrong?

    ...Chicago and Hawaii have been hiring illegal immigrants with work visas as cops for a while now.

    Colorado, California, and Illinois are some of the states looking to hire illegal immigrants to fill police vacancies since the left decimated departments nationwide. And yes, they would carry guns if/when the feds allow them to since federal law currently does not permit this unless for "official purposes," a loophole cop shops are using to hire and arm certain illegal immigrant peeps as police officers.

    1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

      We want soldiers and cops who don't think of Americans as 'us'; we want soldiers and cops thinking 'them', and have citizenship as a reward for obedience. Better to oppress the unwashed masses.

      Join the military, become a US citizen: Uncle Sam wants you and vous and tu
      https://apnews.com/article/army-air-force-recruiting-shortfall-immigrants-citizenship-2cd690352210606945010d1800c5bdbe

      Last week, she raised her right hand and took the oath to join the U.S. Army Reserves, thanks in part to a recruiter in Dallas who also is Nepalese and reached out to her through an online group.

      Bidari, who heads to basic training in August, is just the latest in a growing number of legal migrants enlisting in the U.S. military as it more aggressively seeks out immigrants, offering a fast track to citizenship to those who sign up.

      Struggling to overcome recruiting shortfalls, the Army and the Air Force have bolstered their marketing to entice legal residents to enlist, putting out pamphlets, working social media and broadening their outreach, particularly in inner cities. One key element is the use of recruiters with similar backgrounds to these potential recruits.

      ...Last October, the Army reestablished a program for legal permanent residents to apply for accelerated naturalization once they get to basic training. Recruiters began to reach out on social media, using short videos in various languages to target the top 10 countries that recruits had come from during the previous year.

      1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

        Andrea Widburg wrote, “Mutiny is on the menu should Trump win again. That’s according to an allegedly ‘secret’ plan, that’s being widely trumpeted on NBC News, for the military to refuse to follow orders from Trump. Part of this is pre-election posturing, but part of this is entirely consistent with the post-Obama military, up to and including the execrable Mark ‘White Rage’ Milley.”

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          So they would commit de jure treason, as opposed to the de facto treason they committed when they kept troops in Syria against Trump's orders, or when Milley went behind his back to assure Chine he wouldn't let Trump launch a nuke on January 6th?

          1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

            I'm eagerly awaiting the open borders crowd being tried for literal treason when Biden's Chinese paymasters send troops across Biden's open border to preposition them to attack infrastructure during WWIII over Taiwan.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

              By that point, it won't even matter, because the red areas are going to consider themselves separate from the "US" anyway, and will likely be shooting Democrats AND the Chinese on sight.

              1. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

                It will be hard to tell them apart, that's true.

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        That's probably the actual reason for these "kinder, gentler" basic training programs that are being practiced now--don't want to scare off the fresh off the boat migrants from signing up to fight for the Union.

    2. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   2 years ago

      I'm doing a little deep diving on this issue and I'm not sure all of these threads look like how they're being portrayed.

      There's a thorny issue about "illegal" vs "legal".

      For instance, all of those "immigrants" that Abbot et. al are shipping to New York and Chicago are technically "legal" immigrants. This is why the "remain in Texas" policy would be unconstitutional, if Biden admin attempted to enforce such a proposal.

      Once those border-crossing/gate-crashing immigrants have been processed and given a court date, they are now 'legal immigrants' although with a temporary status-- and pending court date. They are now "free to move about the cabin" so to speak. So that means, all of them are eligible to purchase a firearm.

      ATF guidelines:

      May aliens legally in the United States purchase firearms?
      An alien legally in the U.S. is not prohibited from purchasing firearms unless the alien is admitted into the U.S. under a nonimmigrant visa and does not meet one of the exceptions as provided in 18 U.S.C. 922(y)(2), such as possession of a valid hunting license or permit.

      [18 U.S.C. 922 (d)(5), (g)(5) and (y)(2); 27 CFR 478.11 and 478.32(a)(5) ]

      Now, this is a highly legal and technical situation. For instance, I'm not sure what status those immigrants are under. Are then under a "non-immigrant visa"? I don't know. However, this does raise some very interesting issues.

      Hmm, thanks for posting. Will continue to dig.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   2 years ago

        Digging further, here is a "fact checking website" (and we all know how awful fact-checking websites are) debunking the claim, but then in the same paragraph, indicating it could be true(!). I'll let the commentariat weigh in on this one:

        The Instagram video, which has received over 74,000 likes, purports the ATF has updated its background check policy and has given an exemption to “illegal immigrants” to be able to purchase firearms. The woman who appears in the video claims to have received the information from her husband, who supposedly owns a gun shop.

        The claim is false, however. According to the ATF’s website, noncitizens residing in the U.S. are not necessarily automatically barred from purchasing firearms and can purchase firearms under certain criteria.

        The claim is false, but under certain criteria, it could be true. Does everyone read that the same way I do?

        1. Moonrocks   2 years ago

          The bolded sentence means that some non-citizen residents (presumably legal permanent residents) are allowed to buy guns. I don't doubt that the Fact Checkers are lying, but that sentence doesn't contradict the Fact Check.

          1. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   2 years ago

            It kind of... does. Because even the ATF is being deliberately murky. Non-citizens can buy firearms. Non-immigrant visa aliens cannot, unless they can:

            Can a non-immigrant alien buy a firearm?

            No, unless they have a waiver.

            Can they get a waiver?

            Yes, they can apply for a waiver.

            Can an illegal alien buy a firearm?

            No... unless they establish residency.

      2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

        I haven't done any deep dive but that was my overall reaction. I suspect that non citizen legal immigrants have been cops and soldiers for a couple of hundred years and buying and selling guns. I don't have a problem with that. The problem is that the Biden administration grants legal status to anyone crossing at a port of entry however spurious their claims of asylum. Claims that may not be adjudicated for a decade.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

          The problem is that the Biden administration grants legal status to anyone crossing at a port of entry however spurious their claims of asylum.

          that is what the law requires

          Claims that may not be adjudicated for a decade.

          then they should hire more personnel to adjudicate the claims faster

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            "Libertarians for a bigger administrative state"

            1. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   2 years ago

              Um, non-libertarians being non-libertarians.

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                How is it libertarian to set up the government to deliberately fail *for its legitimate duties*? IF you think the government should, for example, provide for public roads, then the government ought to have the resources to make sure that the public roads are built properly and expediently.

                Libertarians are not anarchists. Libertarians will, sometimes begrudgingly, accept that the government must have taxes in order to perform its legitimate functions. So the government should have only a small number of legitimate duties, AND it should have the resources - no more, and no less - that it needs to perform those duties properly, efficiently and expediently.

                Do you disagree? If so, why?

            2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

              How about, Libertarians for the government to perform its legitimate functions effectively and expediently?

              IF we all agree that the government ought to perform a certain task, then it should have the resources necessary to perform that task effectively and expediently. Right? Do you want incompetent and ineffective government *for the tasks that you think it is supposed to accomplish*?

              If it takes a decade for the government to adjudicate an asylum claim, then that is unacceptable.

          2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

            then they should hire more personnel to adjudicate the claims faster

            So their claims can be rejected and they will be deported faster.

  45. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   2 years ago

    Some right-wing members of Congress have voiced opposition to the spending bill, particularly the fact that it does not stipulate securing the border, forcing Johnson to seek support from Democrats.

    Bowf sidez spending!

  46. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   2 years ago

    A new study calls bullshit on workplace wellness programs.

    You oughta see what ELSE is going on in your HR department!

  47. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    https://donsurber.substack.com/p/state-sanctioned-protest?publication_id=1115457&post_id=140712978&isFreemail=false&r=9bg2k

    The New York Post reported, “A swarm of Pro-Palestinian supporters shouted ‘f–k Joe Biden’ as they nearly ripped down a reinforced fence outside the White House during a charged protest Saturday night.

    “Non-essential personnel were evacuated from the area as a precaution as the aggressive demonstration ramped up, the Secret Service confirmed.

    “Video shows the crowd shaking the fence so viciously that a section of it became partially dislodged while a horde of Secret Service police pushed back to keep the ralliers from entering the grounds.”

    Fox reported, “The demonstrators were heard chanting [chanted], ‘Ceasefire Now’ and ‘Free, Free Palestine,’ with many waving Palestinian flags. ‘Yemen, Yemen make us proud / Turn another ship around,’ was also recited at the demonstration, hours after strikes were launched against the Houthis in Yemen.”

    No one was sent to jail to face 22 years in prison. No police officer shot and killed anyone. No one in the press called it an insurrection because this was state-sanctioned psy-ops as the deep state staged the event to show widespread support for changing federal policy.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago (edited)

      Apparently a bunch of marxist bureaucrat spastics are planning some kind of strike over this as well, since Biden’s handlers aren’t forcing Israel to stop their military operations.

      I can honestly see why all these people are so afraid of Trump taking over, considering he’s likely to purge them out of government, like Obama did with military officers who didn’t go along with his social engineering schemes. And it wouldn't be that hard to find them, either--just look for the tards who list their pronouns in their email signature boxes, LinkedIn profiles, or USAJobs applications.

      1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

        Biden is in a tough spot. His corporate paymasters want an expensive war, but his woke foot soldiers want Jews killed w/o opposition.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          They're looking at a potential 3-front and maybe even 4-front conflict (Russia, Yemen, Iran, and China), and they can't even fill their pathetic post-GWOT recruiting figures. We haven't really had any kind of robust military since Desert Storm, and have been trying to fight wars on the cheap ever since.

          I'm actually howling with laughter, because their side has spent the last 50-plus years indulging in mass oikophobia--denigrating any kind of patriotic feeling as "jingoism," claiming that any kind of western nationalism is merely a pretext to the rise of Naziism, and aggressively trying to "de-colonize" and "disrupt and dismantle" western societies from their roots and traditions in the service of advancing the communist revolution.

          Now that they've fully taken over the west's cultural institutions, they're claiming that we're in an existential conflict that could potentially get bigger, but can't get the people they actually need to throw in to the meat grinder interested in signing up to keep them in power. In fact, roughly 30-40% of the country would probably welcome seeing blue cities get turned into quiet neighborhoods for the next 1,000 years, if it meant they wouldn't have to worry about their enemies trying to convince their kids to cut their genitals off.

          1. mtrueman   2 years ago

            "Now that they’ve fully taken over the west’s cultural institutions, they’re claiming that we’re in an existential conflict that could potentially get bigger"

            It's possible, but the decline of Ancient Egypt's empire offers a different model. No decisive giant conflict, but a series of successively smaller victories getting closer and closer to home.

          2. Moonrocks   2 years ago

            It's a consequence of the realignment. The establishment neolib left that paid anti-war lipservice but otherwise didn't care are now fully in bed with the establishment right neocons. Meanwhile, the true believers on the left aren't cooperating and expect to get their way by acting like petulant children (as they always have) and are only being tolerated so long as they're still seen as useful.

      2. Moonrocks   2 years ago

        Apparently a bunch of marxist bureaucrat spastics are planning some kind of strike over this as well

        Could they make it permanent?

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          Sheesh, if only.

    2. mtrueman   2 years ago

      "No police officer shot and killed anyone."

      On the other hand you've got the US navy launching several attacks on Yemen which continue resulting in multiple casualties without congressional approval. But that's not enough for you. Do you really want to bring the war home?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        You do realize that this was a reference to J6, right?

        1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          If there's a police shooting and someone doesn't mention Saint Babbitt, are they excommunicated from the Church of Trump?

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            Which is why I'm surprised you didn't take Ra's bait directly.

            1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

              I'll take that as a yes. After all, people call her that because faithful parishioners like yourself bring her up whenever there's a protest or police shooting. "Whatabout J6? Whatabout Babbitt? Not fair not fair not fair!"

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                Boy, you're just a bundle of fucking joy this morning. Someone pee in your morning screwdriver?

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  3 day weekend hangover is still going strong for the lil rascal.

          2. Dillinger   2 years ago

            >>Saint Babbitt

            crossing a line of decency with this.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

              Yes, the people who continually seek to canonize her and turn her into a martyr do cross a line of decency. SHE WAS THE AGGRESSOR. The cop fired in self-defense. She was the one in the wrong. And yet she is the one held up as the victim here.

              1. Dillinger   2 years ago

                bro there's video. just stop.

                1. Nelson   2 years ago

                  Yes, there are many videos of the violent invadion that J6 criminals perpetrated. You should watch them

                2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                  psst: she wasn't supposed to be in the building in the first place. none of them were.

            2. Nelson   2 years ago

              "crossing a line of decency with this."

              Not at all. She got exactly what someone trying to breach a position defended by armed guards should expect. She was a criminal and deserved what she got.

              The idiocy of J6 apologists and the mythology they have built around Babbitt deserves to be mocked.

              1. Dillinger   2 years ago

                okay, losers.

        2. mtrueman   2 years ago

          "You do realize that this was a reference to J6, right?"

          I realize almost everything here is a reference to J6.

      2. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

        Genocide in Yemen now.

  48. mtrueman   2 years ago

    " Iran's actions an "unprovoked violation of [Pakistan's] airspace.""

    Iraq also complained about the Iranian actions on Iraqi territory. But I suspect the Pakistani and Iraqi complaints are pro forma. The governments of both countries are strategic partners to the US, the same status enjoyed by Israel, though a lot less lucratively. Striking at Mossad supported anti Iranian groups sheltered by the quisling dominated governments of their neighbors allows Iran to ratchet up the threat of escalation without confronting Israel or the US directly.

  49. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    National Review John Fetterman Cracks the Code

    praises Fetterman for pissing off Progressive Left:

    Make no mistake, Fetterman will use whatever additional credibility he earns with his new tack to try to help Biden win Pennsylvania in November. He’s still a progressive in all but self-description. Yet he’s probably going to be more popular and harder to beat, and definitely more interesting. Democrats should pay attention, although they probably won’t — ensuring that Fetterman has lots of running room to brand himself as a different kind of Democrat.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/01/john-fetterman-cracks-the-code/

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      Fetterman can take these stances because 1) he knows the Dems aren't actually going to leave Israel hanging, so it's easy virtue-signaling; 2) as long as he's voting 100% Democrat on actual legislation, he's not going to be targeted for deviating by 2% like Kyrsten Sinema was; and 3) Pennsylvania's Dem voters will pull the lever for him, regardless.

      He's basically a Congressional version of Bill Ackman, a lefty posturing against a faction who's trying to assert their dominance in the progressive stack.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        Nevertheless, he is better than anyone expected.

        I know - low bar.

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   2 years ago

          To be fair, he does seem to be improving after his stroke, unlike Biden.

        2. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd lies. That's not a surprise to anyone who reads his constant stream of bullshit.
          But it's becoming obvious that as Misek is too stupid to understand the concepts of "evidence" or "relevance", the concept of "honesty" is simply beyond turd's ken.

    2. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

  50. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    From Simon Ateba on Twitter regarding that "two-horse race" that Nikki Haley mentioned:

    https://twitter.com/simonateba/status/1747624902910235051

    When @NikkiHaley said this is now a two-man race after losing Iowa, it was not about Trump.

    She was referring to DeSantis and herself. This is because in the back of everyone's mind here in DC, Trump is too dangerous to become President again and they won't let that happen, at all costs!

    Actually, the left, the deep state, and the DC establishment believe that Trump is an existential threat to the United States of America and his MAGA base has been brainwashed, and they have to take things into their own hands. They must stop him at all costs, and they will do it through the courts and eliminate him. If that does not work, they might go further, to the final option. I will refrain from mentioning it here.

    There are three wars that we are facing: the media war to win over independents, the legal war to disqualify Trump, and the deep state war to reportedly 'save' America from Trump. These wars will happen at the same time and the months ahead will be tumultuous.

    Thoughts?

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      When I've mentioned elsewhere that Trump running again was stupid, and that he needed to step aside for someone else, my reasons were as follows:
      1) He's too fucking old, no matter how energetic he might come off as;
      2) He's already lost once;
      3) There's no way on God's green earth that the US elites and their government lackeys would let him back in power. Hell, Time Magazine laid out exactly how they went about fixing things so that he'd get kicked out the first time. If he thinks he's overcoming that kind of meta-organization by the Chamber of Commerce, Hollywood and the mass media, government officials from the county clerks and state secretaries to the courts to the security state, Democrat and GOPe politicians, and their NGO activist network, he hasn't learned a damn thing since 2020 as to how color revolutions work.

      So yeah, I have no doubt they'd get some lone wolf nutbag or CIA assassin to take him out, or even bribe one of his own Secret Service detail to do it, whichever is easier.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        The question becomes, should any part of #3 come to pass is, what next? I get the feeling that the country is on edge enough as it is, definitely more so now than any time within my lifetime (Carter, onward). Some of the rhetoric coming out of certain circles on the left is downright terrifying, especially regarding how they view those of us in the anti-Biden camp (even if we're not onboard with Trump) as not just mistaken, not just wrong, but evil.

        I would wager that how it happens would depend on when and where they decide to take out Trump (and anyone else for that matter). As it is, Haley probably let the cat out of the bag a bit too early with her comment about a two-man race.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          Random attacks against Democratic officials, I suspect, and maybe even lone-wolf attacks on places like college campuses or whatever pro-lefty cause protest is happening at the time. Maybe even mass protests, but those will get put down quick because the establishment only tolerates protests from the left, never from the right.

          It won't be anything organized unless the Dems roll military forces into the exurbs or rural areas, and even that's dicey because there's bound to be a least a few soldiers who won't be on board with liquidating the countryside. Which is probably why they're recruiting all the recent migrants hard to sign up for military service, and saying we need to sign up illegals to fill out recruitment quotas like Durbin recently did, as a bunch of foreign mercenaries aren't going to give a fuck about shooting up American towns.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago (edited)

            If it did get to that point, the break will be fully realized and the US will cease to exist as a country anyway, and red areas will start working with anyone who promises to get the left-liberal oligarchy off their backs, whether that’s China, Russia, or whomever, and the conflict might even end up spilling over into Europe, given all the farmer protests and right-wing political resurgence going on.

            This is why I said that if the Optimates weren't so corrupt, a dictator who promises to clean that shit up and stop their abuses wouldn't look like a potential option.

      2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

        Not convinced that Trump hasn't learned anything. But. If it's not Trump it will be Biden or Haley or Newsome or Kamala or Michelle. The uniparty doesn't care which one. Haley is probably the preferred choice because they can create the illusion of a two party state while fully protecting their phony baloney jobs. But in any case the empire will be in full collapse. It won't be Vivek or Rand or even RFK Jr. or DiSantis. Trump not only has to win the election, the votes will have to be enough to overwhelm not only the entrenched uniparty but the massive fraud they are prepared to unleash.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago (edited)

          Haley is probably the preferred choice because they can create the illusion of a two party state while fully protecting their phony baloney jobs.

          I’m sure they think getting Haley in the seat to replace Biden might help turn the temperature down enough to stave off a right-wing revolt in the hinterlands, with the added benefit that she’ll happily be a punching bag for the establishment until Newsom or Pritzker emulsifies her in 2028–especially if they can finally take the Potemkin economic supports out, let shit collapse while she’s in the seat, and then implement whatever Atlanticist global “Great Reset/ESG” economic scheme they had in mind when they thought President Hillary was going to be in charge.

          The problem is that the populist right can’t stand her precisely because she's such a Deep State bootlicker (even Rand Paul just came out as #NeverNikki), they make up the majority of the party, contrary to the stupid delusions of the ex-GOP neocons, and there’s enough animus from her right flank to require some epic-level ballot stuffing by the Dems to get her the nomination, much less the Big Seat.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            And the problem for the Dems is that they can't pull off the same shenanigans they do in the DNC primaries due to different rules, and a different group of people who vote. Just look at Iowa. Trump won a majority of the vote despite not having been in a debate, and despite the attempts at crossing over by the Dems.

      3. mamabug   2 years ago

        I am rather surprised on some level that they haven't already initiated the Putin Protocol. Maybe they were hoping the lawfare approach would work to lessen his support.

        I'd still take 'none of the above' as a long-shot option of the current 5 candidates for who will actually be sworn-in as President on 1/20/25

    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      He will get re-elected.

      1. Randy Sax   2 years ago (edited)

        2 outta 3 ain’t bad

    3. Longtobefree   2 years ago

      My recurring thought is why doesn't Biden explain exactly what is wrong with making America great?

      1. Ska   2 years ago

        I'd imagine the response would be something about inaudible high pitched sounds coming from simple mouth operated wind instruments.

    4. mtrueman   2 years ago

      "They must stop him at all costs, and they will do it through the courts and eliminate him"

      The courts? If he's lucky. I wouldn't be surprised if sometime this year some American will step up and shoot him in the hair. I wouldn't be surprised if this up stepping American turned out to be America's first successful female assassin. Anyone willing to give odds?

      1. Sevo   2 years ago (edited)

        Odds on you being a slimy pile of shit? 100%.

        1. VinniUSMC   2 years ago

          Odds on misconstrueman being Nazi scum? 100%

  51. MWAocdoc   2 years ago

    "The findings "pose a challenge to the popularity and legitimacy of individual-level mental well-being interventions""

    I have almost stopped attending the national Occupational Medicine meetings altogether over the past several years since they no longer report on actual workplace health and safety, having shifted focus to "presenteeism, holistic health and social justice." Apparently, the research on chemical exposures and hazardous jobs had all been tapped out and the workplace has become so safe and healthy that the only thing left to study and promote has been trying (unsuccessfully) to enhance the healthy worker effect even more! Notes from the trenches ...

  52. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>On Monday, Iran took credit for hitting and destroying an Israeli spy base with missiles.

    who said anything about Israeli spy base?

    1. JFree   2 years ago (edited)

      Liz Wolfe invented it. And quite deliberately omitted that the location is Iraq. More specifically Erbil in the Kurdish region of Iraq.

      Bloomberg put ‘Israeli spy base’ in quotes. Israeli papers are all saying ‘Mossad spy base’ in quotes. All – except Liz Wolfe – acknowledge that the attack was in Iraq – a country that doesn’t have diplomatic relations with Israel and certainly doesn’t have a real Israeli spy base there.

      The real story is about Iran and Iraq relations. About a Kurdish businessman named Peshraw Dizayee – who was the target of the attack – an extremely focused attack (the pictures of that house are online - in news sources that practice real journalism rather than sitting on a couch in pajamas journalism) that destroyed his residence and three other people who were there. And who the IRGC claims was Mossad, the house a ‘Mossad command center’ and other anti-Iranian groups.

      None of that comes from an article by a fraud from Reason. At least it wasn’t a hospital terrorist command center.

      1. JFree   2 years ago

        Ah - apparently Peshraw Disayee facilitated oil exports from Kurdish areas to Israel. Maybe Mossad but who cares really.

        And this attack follows an attack a couple weeks ago by the US on an Iraqi named Mushtaq Jawad Kazim al-Jawari who the US claimed was a terrorist backing Iran. As well as an attack by Israel on an Iranian general named Seyed Razi Mousavi in Syria a month or so ago.

        Can always be sure - Reason ain't worth shit.

      2. mtrueman   2 years ago

        It is odd that the writer claimed that it was the first time Iran 'directly attacked an Israeli target' when, at most, Iran attacked an Israel intelligence asset in Iraq. She also failed to mention the Iranian attacks on an ISIL base in Syria.

    2. MWAocdoc   2 years ago

      I have formulated a new dictum, henceforth to be known as "The Mwaocdoctrine" which goes, "It does not matter how accurate your weapon is if you choose the wrong target."

      This can be appropriately cited in the context of killer drones and cruise missiles that successfully take out Foreign Aid Workers in a parking lot with a number of school children; an entire wedding party attended by someone with the same name as a terrorist; or a no-knock drug raid at the wrong address.

  53. Dillinger   2 years ago

    where is Billy Binion with the update on last weekend's D.C. riots?

  54. mad.casual   2 years ago

    Constitutional ban on Theater Kids running anything, at least until we can figure out what's going on.

    So... two weeks? (Expect the performance of the non-Theater Kids to be at least equally disappointing).

    1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

      Two weeks, two weeks? Or flattening the curve two weeks?

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        Money Pit two weeks.

  55. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>Donald Trump "showed striking weakness in suburban and urban areas," reports Politico.

    all those Newton, Iowa limousine liberals mucking things up

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Those guys may tag their votes.

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        cute. the family joke was in order to garner attention from the patriarch, paint blue M on forehead.

  56. Dillinger   2 years ago

    hey I wasn't here yesterday was there anything about the Republican Senator from Oklahoma who doesn't have to run again until 2029 selling out the whole fucking country with his immigration deal?

  57. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>The merger between JetBlue and Spirit was put on hold by a federal judge, out of antitrust concerns

    I for one welcome the two worst airlines combining forces but I live in Dallas and idk if you've lived in a city with two airlines' stranglehold on the people at the same time, but ...

    1. BrianL.   2 years ago

      No, the two worst airlines are Spirit and Frontier. Frontier also tried to by Spirit, but the JetBlue offer was better. JetBlue is way better than Spirit and Frontier.

      1. Stuck in California   2 years ago

        Shit, dude, that's the prettiest horse in the glue factory right there. But, yeah, Frontier redefines terrible airlines.

  58. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    Could Taylor Swift stop the rise of the far right in Europe?
    .
    In what appears to be a desperate last-minute appeal, Margaritis Schinas, Vice-President of the European Commission, has thrown his support behind the notion of enlisting pop star Taylor Swift to raise awareness about the upcoming election.

    https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/01/16/could-taylor-swift-stop-the-rise-of-the-far-right-in-europe

    ONLY TAYTAY CAN SAVE EUROPE!

    Is there anything she can't do?

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Is there anything she can’t do?

      Sing about something other than bad relationships she's had?

    2. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
      turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

    3. Dillinger   2 years ago

      >>Is there anything she can’t do?

      keep my attention.

    4. Don't look at me!   2 years ago (edited)

      The Yoko Ono of football

  59. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago (edited)

    Far-right extremism is thriving in rural areas. Here’s what it looks like in Upstate NY . There’s a little wine shop in downtown Ballston Spa, New York with rainbow-colored bottles lining the shop’s front window. The village is small, about 5,000 people, and attracts tourists from all around the world. . Last summer, the owner of the wine shop, Jes Rich, noticed a group of masked men in the street. “As soon as I saw them I ran out the door,” said Rich, who is openly queer and sees her shop as a safe and welcoming space for other queer people. . The men in the street were wearing black and yellow face coverings and T-shirts identifying themselves as members of the Proud Boys, a violent, far-right extremist group. A yellow truck drove alongside the group, blasting the provocative country song “Try That in a Small Town.”

    https://www.northcountrypublicradio.org/news/story/49046/20240115/far-right-extremism-is-thriving-in-rural-areas-here-s-what-it-looks-like-in-upstate-ny

    1. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    2. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

      Remember when you pissed your pants about the SECOND INSURRECTION BY RIGHTWING EXTREMISTS on 9 / 18 / 21?

      Have your intel sources arrived at a final value for the property damage on that terrible day?

      How does it compare to the damage caused by #BLM leftist rioting and looting and burning buildings in #2020?

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        No, I don't remember that.

        I do remember linking it so Peanuts could participate.

        1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

          You're constantly pissing your pants about VIOLENT FAR RIGHT EXTREMISM with your hysterical little "intelligence briefings."

          You didn't seem bothered when your ideological allies rioted throughout 2020, obviously inspired by "AmeriKKKa is evil and racist" progressivism. Or when your doppelganger James Hodgkinson, after consuming a steady diet of "Russians took over the US and GOP are traitors" BS, tried to mass murder Congresspeople. Or when a "transgender man" - who had certainly heard trans activists hyperventilate "the TRANSPHOBES are committing TRANS GENOCIDE" - murdered 3 adults and 3 children in a school shooting.

          Oh, but a flimsy warning about hypothetical future bad behavior from the right? That gets your full attention!

          Your concern for political violence is as phony as SQRSLY's, and as worthless as your economic analysis.

        2. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
          turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

    3. Dillinger   2 years ago

      none of that happened.

      1. Randy Sax   2 years ago

        A fair proportion of slacktivists live in "shit that never happened" land.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          I suspect the only accurate detail of that story was a yellow truck driving past with the song blaring out of it.

          I'm sure the story is as much of a True and Honest Account as the UVa rape story. That's how the commie dialectic works--create an Oppressor avatar, act provocatively until you get the reaction you want, then screech that you're "oppressed," requiring a communist revolution to replace the "oppressive capitalist" system.

      2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        none of that happened.

        Hilarious.

        You nutcases never give in despite overwhelming evidence.

        1. Dillinger   2 years ago

          lol for fuck sake now do your boyfriend & his laptop & his daddy.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          You nutcases never give in despite overwhelming evidence.

          Yeah, I'm sure you think the UVa rape story happened, and that Jussie Smollet was actually jumped by a couple of white hillbillies wearing MAGA caps in downtown Chicago at night.

        3. Super Scary   2 years ago

          "Many fly the yellow Gadsden flag bearing the message “Don’t Tread On Me” - a historic symbol of defiance that has become associated with anti-government sentiment and racial hatred."

          Great stuff, very informative.

        4. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      Yes, anything that resists the historic determinism of the left-liberal coalition is "right-wing extremism." A narrative that would be expected of public radio journoscum.

      Something tells me that if these masked men were Antifa and waving red and black flags with anarchy symbols painted on them, Ms. Rich wouldn't have been quite so agitated.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        Nice to see the Southern Poverty Law Center make an appearance in that article as well, which lets you know that pretty much every claim it makes can be dismissed.

    5. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

      Can you point to any violence perpetrated by the Proud Boys? I mean Other than being attacked first by Antifa and kicking their asses

  60. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

    Newest Trumpworld talking point:
    Jack Smith is in cahoots with... Ron DeSantis

    https://www.rawstory.com/desantis-working-for-jack-smith/

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      I also read that the Deep State had hired Taylor Swift to recruit the yute to oppose Donnie 2024.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      LOL, from Laura Loomer? I don't think anyone ever takes anything she says seriously.

      1. Zeb   2 years ago

        This has become all too common. Point to the craziest asshole you can find and portray that as typical of a whole broad group.

        1. mtrueman   2 years ago

          "This has become all too common. Point to the craziest asshole you can find..."

          ... and elect him president.

          1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

            Biden?

      2. JeremyR   2 years ago

        She literally recently blamed the Deep State using HAARP to control the weather to make it cold in Iowa

  61. tracerv   2 years ago

    To read behind a pay wall, try adding archive.is/ at the first of the address-

    https:// archive.is/www.nytimes.com/2024/01/16/climate/koch-chevron-deference-supreme-court.html

    Click on the link on the next page displayed to read article.

    Not sure how it works but it does! No I’m not a bot!

    1. Stuck in California   2 years ago

      No I’m not a bot!

      Are you sure?

      1. tracerv   2 years ago

        Yep.

  62. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

    Trending now.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/president-canadian-lgbt-organization-arrested-child-sex-abuse-charges
    President Of Canadian LGBT Organization Arrested On Child Sex Abuse Charges
    Arrests of prominent LGBT activists for child abuse are becoming rather common. Only a week before the detention of Sean Gravells, a well known trans woman (male) activist by the name of Kendall Stephen was arrested in Philadelphia, charged with the rape of two young boys.
    Multiple leftist activists with influential positions in media have been arrested or convicted on child sex abuse charges and pornography in the past year, including two senior producers from ABC and CNN, as well as Slade Sohmer, the former managing editor of CNN's now defunct BEME video and co-manager for a kids summer camp called “Camp Power.”
    Then there was the gay activist couple from Georgia that was arrested at the beginning of 2023. After adopting two boys, the couple allegedly abused them, then trafficked them to a pedophile ring.
    And how about Oregon teacher/activist Kelsey Boren, who “mentored” an 11-year-old drag queen and was later convicted on child pornography charges. Boren was sentenced to less than a year in prison in 2023 for 11 felony counts of encouraging child sex abuse.
    For many decades there were good people within the gay community that worked diligently to separate themselves from historical assumptions that they're inclined to target children. But today, radical LGBT activists are proving these assumptions correct by burning down whatever goodwill the community might have built up in the past. Their insistence on forcing trans and gender fluid ideology into schools and exposing young children to sexualized concepts and imagery has given rise to a reasonable public suspicion - That the end goal of the LGBT movement is not acceptance of different views, but outright predatory grooming of the next generation.

    1. Zeb   2 years ago

      Makes me feel bad for the gay people who actually did just want to live their lives like everyone else. I assume they are still out there. But the nutters are sucking up all the attention.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

        Same here. And I think this has a lot more to do with the Ts movement than the LGBs.

        1. Randy Sax   2 years ago

          There's a Dave Chapple bit about a car trip with an L a G a T and a B on the road to normalcy and T is making the car stop every five minutes to use the wrong bathroom, slowing the L G and B way the fuck down.

    2. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

      If this sort of thing happened in the Roman Catholic Church, it would be a major scandal!

  63. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/16/trump-haley-debate-2024-00135782
    ABC News has canceled a planned debate in New Hampshire, after GOP presidential candidate Nikki Haley said Tuesday that she would only step foot on the debate stage again if Donald Trump or Joe Biden is there.
    “We’ve had five great debates in this campaign. Unfortunately, Donald Trump has ducked all of them,” Haley said in a statement. “He has nowhere left to hide. The next debate I do will either be with Donald Trump or with Joe Biden. I look forward to it.”

    More likely it will be neither.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      Exactly, why would he bother? He's absolutely kicking her ass in every poll to such a degree, that you can't even argue for shitty methodology on marginal differences. The man's got endless court cases to attend, they haven't eroded his support, and he's almost as old as Biden. He needs what little energy he has for that, not wasting his time with some bint who has to spend an inordinate amounts of time and money just to get within shouting distance of him.

    2. Longtobefree   2 years ago

      There have been no debates in any campaign.

      There have been many joint press conferences, with all the subtle personal interactions of a kindergarten playground, but no debates.
      Debates involve putting forth facts, backed by verifiable citations, leading to a preferred policy conclusion, without interruptions.
      I have yet to see (or even read about) one of those.

  64. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

    Just when you thought Chris Christie was finally out of the news cycle.
    https://studyfinds.org/man-boobs-warning-early-death/

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Chris Christie nothing. That's JB Pritzker right there.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        Fat people all look alike.

        1. Chumby   2 years ago

          There is also that unpleasant obese person odor.

  65. JeremyR   2 years ago

    Why are you believing Iran when it comes to Israel?

    By all accounts, they targeted and killed a Kurdish billionaire. It was not a strike against Israel, it was against the Kurds, our allies (who we have been pretty terrible to)

    https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/kurdish-prime-minister-says-iran-is-attacking-civilians-accusations-israeli-spy-2024-01-16/

    Funny how Iraq, Iran, Syria, Turkey all seem to bomb the Kurds and literally no one cares. Even though they live in their actual homeland and are not invaded like the Turks or Arabs. (Okay, Persians always lived in Persia, but they weren't Muslim)

  66. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    I see I touched a sore spot with Kooky Ass Retard.

  67. Ersatz   2 years ago

    i think that was a 'yes'

  68. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    If you have evidence, cough it up. If not, then STFU and STFD.

  69. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Damn, Kooky Ass Retard, you really do have LDSDS in spades. Tell me, what is it about LDS that drives you up a wall? Is it the special underwear, the niceness, the larger families?

  70. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

    And officially outs themselves as KAR.

  71. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Go blow yourself, Kooky Ass Retard.

  72. Chumby   2 years ago

    Mission accomplished.

  73. damikesc   2 years ago

    Yeah, that was a pretty blatant giveaway.

  74. Ersatz   2 years ago

    thought that as soon as i read his mormon diss

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