The War on Terror Zombie Army Has Assembled
All of the unfinished U.S. conflicts in the Middle East are coming together into one big crisis for Biden.

President Joe Biden announced U.S. airstrikes on the Houthi movement, one of two competing factions claiming to be Yemen's government, on Thursday. The attacks came after Houthi drone and missile attacks on trade routes in the Red Sea, which Houthi leadership said was meant to pressure Israel to lift its siege on Gaza. Several members of Congress from both parties said that Biden had no constitutional authority to attack. Biden justified the strikes in terms of self-defense.
It was a new escalation, and it wasn't. The United States has been involved in Yemen for years, striking Al Qaeda and supporting a Saudi-led coalition against the Houthis. But Thursday was the first open combat between the U.S. military and Houthi forces, except for a limited incident in 2016. It was also the first airstrike in Yemen by anyone in nearly two years. Saudi Arabia had accepted a truce and peace talks in early 2022, partly because of U.S. pressure.
The Intercept also reported on Friday that special U.S. Air Force intelligence teams, whose job is to share targeting data, had been ordered to Israel. Although the Biden administration has claimed that it is only sharing intelligence with Israel for hostage rescue missions, the arrival of the targeting teams suggests that Washington is playing a much more active role in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict than ever before.
Meanwhile, the Iraqi government is asking the U.S. military to leave Iraq after a U.S. drone strike killed an Iraqi militia commander. (Behind the scenes, Biden administration officials seem confident that the notion of expelling Americans from Iraq is empty talk.) Although U.S. forces have been battling pro-Iran militias in Iraq for decades now, there had been a monthslong truce in place, which Iraqi militias decided to break after war erupted in Gaza.
All of the ghosts—or perhaps zombies—of U.S. foreign policy for the past 30 years seem to be assembling into one big war. Since the Obama administration, Washington has promised to pull U.S. forces out of the Middle East, while quietly dabbling in proxy wars all over the region. That arrangement turned out to be neither stable nor sustainable. Right under everyone's noses, and without permission from Congress, the United States has gone from proxy warfare back to direct combat in the Middle East.
The immediate cause of the crisis was unexpected: the mass Hamas-led killing and kidnapping of Israelis last October and the Israeli invasion of Gaza in response. But the underlying dynamics were there for everyone to see. American leaders believed that they could impose an unpopular order on the Middle East without putting in much effort and freeze the Middle East's conflicts on Washington's terms. And like an overconfident character in a horror movie, the Biden administration accidentally foreshadowed the bloody events to come.
"The Middle East region is quieter today than it has been in two decades now," National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan said a week before the war. "Now challenges remain—Iran's nuclear weapons program, the tensions between Israelis and Palestinians—but the amount of time that I have to spend on crisis and conflict in the Middle East today compared to any of my predecessors going back to 9/11 is significantly reduced."
Those "challenges" have now combined into the worst Middle Eastern crisis in decades.
Sullivan had borrowed his playbook, the Abraham Accords, from the Trump administration. The idea was to unite Israel and the oil-rich Arab monarchies through their common enmity with Iran. Security ties would lead to economic cooperation and cultural normalization, while the Iranian government would collapse on its own under the pressure. U.S. military forces could underwrite the whole thing without getting involved directly.
The Iranian nuclear program indeed seemed to be the biggest threat. Although the CIA does not believe Iran is currently building an atomic weapon, its nuclear infrastructure could be used for that purpose. Former President Barack Obama had believed that, unless a U.S.-Iranian deal was struck, he would have to choose between bombing Iran or accepting an Iranian bomb. The Trump administration offered a different option: Exert pressure that "expands the space" for an uprising against the Iranian government. That seemed to work. Halfway into the Biden era, Iran faced its most intense unrest since the 1979 revolution.
One wrinkle remained: several million Palestinians, living under various degrees of Israeli control, with neither a country of their own nor legal status in any other country. The hopeful days of the "two-state solution," negotiations to create a State of Palestine living peacefully alongside the State of Israel, had gone by. A growing chunk of Palestinian society supported armed rebellion, and a growing chunk of Israeli society supported "population transfer," a euphemism for ethnic cleansing.
The Trump administration was unbothered. "The biggest threat that our allies and partners in the region face is not the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. It's Iran. You've got to start there," Trump administration official Brian Hook said in August 2020. As was the Biden administration. Current Secretary of State Antony Blinken said in January 2021 that "it's hard to see near-term prospects for moving forward" on the issue.
Perhaps the United States alone could have solved the conflict; perhaps no one could have. Either way, Washington had tied itself to the outcome. Israel continued to receive U.S. military aid in greater amounts and with fewer conditions than any other country. And the Abraham Accords made Israel a key part of the entire Middle East's security architecture.
Meanwhile, Tehran was licking its wounds. Although the Islamic Republic of Iran is internationally isolated and domestically losing control, it has many cards left to play. Iranian leaders can still count on a large arsenal of missiles and drones and an array of pro-Iran guerrilla forces across the region. (The Houthis are one such group.) Saudi Arabia, once an advocate for bombing Iran, decided to cut its losses and accept a diplomatic deal with Iran last year.
The stage was set, then, for the October war to spread all over the region. The Abraham Accords were exposed as both fragile and unpopular in the Arab world, especially after Israeli leaders began to talk about expelling Palestinians from Gaza en masse. Iran had a golden opportunity to escalate on its terms. Hezbollah, the pro-Iran party in Lebanon, immediately began firing on Israeli territory. Biden sent two aircraft carriers to the region to deter any further escalation against Israel, while also talking Israel out of a preemptive war on Lebanon.
Iraqi militias broke their truce with Americans the following week. The U.S. bases originally set up to overthrow Saddam Hussein and repurposed for the war against the Islamic State were now redoubts against Iran's Iraqi supporters. Like the Obama and Trump administrations before it, the Biden administration cited the original Iraq War authorization to justify its newest battle.
Then the Houthis began to menace international commerce. Houthi spokesman Yahya Sare'e claimed that Israeli shipping was a "legitimate target" until the siege of Gaza was lifted. Echoing the logic of liberal American hawks, he claimed that Yemen had a responsibility to protect Palestinian civilians. But the Houthi attacks also struck non-Israeli ships and drove international shipping companies out of the Red Sea, which normally carries around 10 percent of global trade.
As it turned out, the problem wouldn't take care of itself. Despite the Abraham Accords, no Arab state except Bahrain was willing to intervene against the Houthis on behalf of Israeli shipping. (Saudi Arabia also seemed more concerned with maintaining its own truce.) Biden decided to cobble together his own fleet to fend off the Houthi assaults.
There is another small wrinkle: None of these fights have any mandate from the American people. Congress last authorized military action against Iraq in 2002. It has never passed a law allowing the president to threaten Lebanon out of shelling Israel, nor one allowing the Navy to bomb Yemen out of threatening cargo ships. The Biden administration has tried to keep its support for Israel, including a U.S. military base on Israeli soil, as secretive as possible.
For all the sound and fury about college campuses, there has been no real national conversation on U.S. involvement in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict or its regional spillover. Before the October attacks, Washington seemed confident that it could steer events from a distance. Now that U.S. forces are directly involved, American leaders are pretending that it was a sad inevitability, that their hands were forced.
Or perhaps they're not pretending. Earlier this week, Blinken was in Saudi Arabia, trying to convince reporters that the crown prince was still interested in joining the Abraham Accords. Like zombies, they shuffle off into the distance, not really understanding where they came from or where they're going. Unfortunately, they're dragging the rest of us behind them.
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There Biden was, minding his own business when... ALL OF A SUDDEN!
The terrorist jews are on trial in the international court of justice ICJ for committing genocide in Gaza and the evidence is overwhelming.
Why isn’t this trial in our mainstream news propaganda? Could it have something to do with our government’s continued support and funding of the genocide?
Why isn’t our governments support of the criminal Israel a divisive issue in the election? Could it be that ALL parties are complicit with the satanic Israel lobby?
When Israel is convicted of planning and committing genocide what will all their co conspirators do?
Crawl back under their rocks?
Call everyone Nazis?
Or walk willingly to the gallows with Netanyahu?
We invaded Iraq and Sadam Hussein was hung for crimes against humanity and he didn’t even have WMD.
High level Israeli officials are on record threatening to use nukes they aren’t supposed to have, planning and executing the denial of food and water to Gaza and telling their troops to target and kill Palestinian women and children.
If these facts aren’t enough to demonstrate that Israelis are the bad guys, what is?
Fuck off and die, Nazi shit.
Insanity is doing the same thing while expecting a different result.
How’s that working for you fuckwit?
““No one will stop us, not The Hague, not the axis of evil and not anyone
else,” Netanyahu said in televised remarks Saturday evening,”
Israel and the US, genocide Joe, are out of control.
Being signatories to the UN genocide convention means nothing to these lying wastes of skin.
Fuck off and die, Nazi shit. You deserve nothing other.
“ All foreign news organizations operating in Israel are subject to the Israel Defense Forces’s official censor, which dictates subjects that are off-limits.
But The Intercept has just discovered that CNN goes a step further. For years, the network has required that all stories about Israel and Palestine are reviewed by its Jerusalem bureau — ensuring that “the people closest to the Israeli government” can shape the entire outlet’s coverage.”
Whatever happened to Rick Sanchez?
“ While the ICJ proceedings may do nothing to halt Israel’s murderous rampage in Gaza, a ruling in South Africa’s favor would increase pressure on countries across the world to make their positions clear. It would also serve as an important test of whether nations, namely U.S. allies in Europe, believe in upholding international laws and conventions or whether they accept the U.S. as the ultimate overlord enforcing its own set of unevenly applied rules.”
The intercept
Jews extended WW1 by duping the antiwar US into the war in exchange for Britain’s promise of Palestine via the Balfour Declaration
Jews drove Germany into WW2 by coordinating global boycotts of all German trade in 1933
Jews are blatantly committing genocide in Palestine coercing the US and its allies to ignore international law, for what, WW3?
When your car is out of control, you stop driving and sort out what’s wrong BEFORE driving again.
WE CANT SUPPORT OUR WESTERN GOVERNMENTS CALLS FOR WAR WHILE THEYRE OUT OF CONTROL.
Let’s see any fuckwit ever post anything again about antisemitism .
Exposing the depravity of Jews and those who support them has just become sport for the next millennia.
Holocaust denial? Jews are demonstrating it now.
The graphic reality demonstrated by correctly applied logic and science stored on millions of computers around the world for all time.
Having "the adults" back in charge is working wonders, domestically AND globally.
Yes, Ukrainians and Israelis -- the ones still alive -- must be so grateful for the wisdom of American voters!
It was clear from the start that Trump was the anti-war option, and America chose war in the last election.
People are stupid like that.
Oh, and is this a bad time to mention Obama giving Iran billions of dollars to use to arm their regional terror affiliates? Is that still not aiding and abetting enemies of the United States?
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Unaware of Trump's record of drone strikes in Yemen, I guess...
"Antiwar" Trump actually authorized more airstrikes in Yemen in his four years than Obama had done in his eight years.
Obama birthed the Yemeni genocide. I’m surprised there was anyone left to kill by 2016.
"“Antiwar” Trump actually authorized more airstrikes in Yemen in his four years than Obama had done in his eight years...."
TDS addled shitstain makes claims; no cites. Perhaps TDS-addled shitstain is lying.
“By 2024, conflict will erupt in the Middle East and everyone will simply forget what Ukraine is.”
– Zhirinovsky circa spring 2022
Who?
A now deceased former Russian politician that is occasionally looked back on as a prophet of things to come. He had an interesting career. His ME prediction video is making its way around eastern and unipolar circles.
Defenstration?
I just looked into him and it was an interesting read. I appreciate your reference.
Wow, that was prophetic. There's no way anyone could have predicted that war would happen in the Middle East.
We have always been at war with Eurasia
You are not reading the second part.
By 2024 bc conflict will errup in the middle east and will continue for a long time
the Biden administration cited the original Iraq War authorization to justify its newest battle.
*** meekly raises hand ***
Why doesn't the U.N. handle piracy in international waters?
Why doesn’t the U.N. handle piracy in international waters?
Not capable. He who has the biggest navy is responsible for handling piracy in international waters. Prior to the US it was the UK. Prior to that, there was rampant piracy, and prior to that it was the Romans.
Obviously the solution is for the U.S. to have one Navy ship less than China.
China may end up being the exception to that, but notably even the Chinese are quite keen on trade just like most empires.
The reason those with the largest navy are usually anti-piracy is because they are the fleets of the largest trade nations thus they have a particular interest in quelling piracy.
The reason those with the largest navy are usually anti-piracy is because they are the fleets of the largest trade nations thus they have a particular interest in quelling piracy.
^
Going all the way back to the Phoenicians.
It’s the other way round. The largest fleets of ship owners used to register their fleets under the flags of the navy which would protect them and which would keep their ships safe. And the costs of that protection would be significantly borne by those ship owners.
Until it became MUCH more profitable for ship owners to register ships in countries that do not inspect ships or regulate them or their crews or protect them on the seas or that has laws related to shipping or that charges for much of anything beyond ski chalets and banking accounts in Gstaad for El Presidente. Much more. Like many millions of dollars per ship per year.
Mostly started by the corruption of shipowners who flagged ships in Panama to avoid being inspected for running booze into the US during Prohibition and by the guy who ran the Lend-Lease Program who after the war decided to sell the same scam through Liberia and now the Marshall Islands. Which is ok apparently since the US is basically the Blaster of Mad Max. Only needs a whistle and a Master.
So today roughly 2/3 of the global trading fleet is ‘protected from pirates’ by Panama (350 million dwt), Liberia (300 million dwt), Marshall Islands (275 million), Hong Kong (200 million), Singapore (140 million), Malta (120 million), China (90 million), Bahamas (70 million), Greece (60 million), and Japan (40 million).
The US is irrelevant. 4% of the total. We may not even have a navy afaik since all we have are the 100 or so Jones Act vessels – and Reason certainly loves to talk that number down. Haven’t seen too many articles on Reason about US Navy spending. Oh yeah. That’s because we don’t have a navy or any flagged ships to protect.
Bring back Pompey.
Fac Pompeium magnum iterum.
So, basically, without the US patrolling the entire globe --- the dream of "globalization" is borderline impossible?
Their response: but pirates!
Butt pirates?
For the exact same reasons Girl Scout Troop #8034 of Peoria doesn't handle piracy in international waters. It doesn't have the capability, and its input wouldn't be of any benefit whatsoever to anyone with the capability.
All the UN handles is corruption.
And anti-Zionism. It rivals corruption on their list of priorities.
Why doesn’t the U.N. handle piracy in international waters?
The UN is a diplomatic organization; that is, a place where nations talk to each other.
Most UN member nations are authoritarian, dictatorial, intolerant, and racist. The last thing you want to do is give the UN military power.
"All of the ghosts—or perhaps zombies—of U.S. foreign policy for the past 30 years"
"Elected to the Senate in 1972, Biden was reelected in 1978, 1984, 1990, 1996, 2002, and 2008"
Hrrrrmmm.
It's a shame that I lost the arsenal I was planning to use to fight off the upcoming zombie apocalypse in a series of unfortunate boating accidents. In case anyone asks.
A lot of that going around...#ilostallmyfuckinggunsmetoo
Wait, so Obama bombed these guys in 2016 and Biden bombed them now? How many world wars did Trump start in between?
How many world wars did Trump start in between?
All of them.
When Trump was president, other countries were bombing them for us and paying us for the privilege. Fortunately, the adults in the room put a stop to that.
Trump started the culture war by daring to fight back.
When does it change from a cold culture war to a hot one?
When Taylor Swift comes out as queer and her video with Selena Gomez drops?
It's not how you think:
https://babylonbee.com/news/selena-gomez-explains-to-taylor-swift-how-the-federal-reserve-creates-boom-and-bust-cycles-through-manipulation-of-interest-rates-and-fiat-currency
You must have missed the memo: Rittenhouse/Kenosha - Jan 6 - Bundy Standoff - Sutter County Sheriff/Prosecutor.
When the Supreme Court affirms the Colorado Supreme Court decision taking Trump off the ballot.
No, Trump just kept on bombing them.
Twice as much as Obama, actually.
Not according to this article.
You.
Are.
Full.
Of.
Shit.
TDS-addled asshole.
Trump is a compleat fucking moron that invented a time machine went back to 1812 started that was, forwarded to 1850s pushed for a civil war, then again the idiot time traveler came back and became president
he claimed that Yemen had a responsibility to protect Palestinian civilians
It’s like this moron never heard of disrupting traffic on a bridge in his own country.
To be fair, closing a narrow straight is the international trade equivalent of sitting on a highway.
True, true. But he should be disrupting his own citizens. That’s how you get people to care.
Remember when the Trumpeters were trumpeting how Putin only invaded Ukraine because Biden wouldn't do anything about it?
You're purposely conflating impotency and inaction.
He's very familiar with impotence.
A growing chunk of Palestinian society supported armed rebellion, and a growing chunk of Israeli society supported "population transfer," a euphemism for ethnic cleansing.
Yes, an ever growing chunk of the Palestinian Arab (not!Palestinian) population supports terror and genocide (not!armedresistance). Curiously, they support Hamas, the 10/7 massacre and terror by a larger margin since 10/7 than ever before, which means that the IDF incursion just doesn't hurt them enough yet.
No, population transfer is not a "euphemism" for ethnic cleansing. This disingenuous claim is as ridiculous as claiming that a justified homicide during self-defense is the same thing as (unjustified) murder. Let's recap the history of the Arab-Jewish conflict in short:
- Arabs started to kill/pogrom Jews, not the other way around
- Arabs launched wars with proclaimed genocidal intent many times, not Jews
- Arabs ethnically cleansed all Jews from their states (including from mandate territories i.e. Gaza Strip, Judea and Samaria in 1948), yet Jews didn't do the same thing (some 700K Palestinian Arab moved from Israel proper in 1948, as an inevitable consequence of Arab-Muslim warfare)
- Arabs dispossessed some 950K Mizrahi Jews in total, so far more people than the misconstrued number of the 48' Palestinian Arab "refugees"
- Jews didn't "ethnically cleanse" Arabs out of their land, as a result one-fifth of Israel's population was and is Arab (now exists almost 2 million Arab Israel citizens, which is literally more Arab-in-Jewish-land than the number of Jew-in-Arab-land despite the vast differences: 15m Jew vs 450m Arab, 0.6% land area Israel vs 99.3% Arab-Muslim land mass, etc...)
So now that we know all these facts and numbers, here's the deal: Jews wanted peace every single time, Arabs didn't. Jews thought that peace is possible - some of them did so up until 10/7 last year - but the Arabs proved them wrong once again. So there's this genocidal entity right next to the only Jewish State - with the support of the supermajority of its population - that committed the largest, most brutal massacre against Jews since the Holocaust. When Israel responded to that monstrous act, Jew-haters of the world immediately started to criticize them barking "how dare they?!", despite the fact that Israel's response was clearly measured, justified, and in accordance with the laws of warfare and the principals of self-defense. And now there are some people who claim that ending the threat (at least the one from the Gaza Strip) once and for all would constitute "ethnic cleansing". No, the complex yet self-evident truth is that removal of such a hostile, incurably genocidal population is not only desirable for a peaceful civilized state, but such a state would be well within her right to utilize any and all powers at her disposal to end that threat for good. Just like an assailant forfeits his life the moment he grabs the gun and threatens his victim, so too the terrorists and their supporters forfeited all their rights the moment they proved once and for all that they are incapable of coexisting with Jews, as they can't stop massacring them (and they promised to do it again, and again in the future). Clearly, the most humane solution out of all possible and feasible solutions would be to put them away to a "minimum safe distance", so they can no longer target innocent civilians with rockets, and can no longer dig terror tunnels to massacre the "hated infidel" Jews. The Sinai would be a perfect location,since pushing the entire strip downwards would ensure that the only Israeli city the terrorists could reach with rockets in the future would be Eilat, with no feasible way to dug their way into Israel either.
Now shipping Gazans a whole bunch of shipping containers full of water bottles laced with arsenic, that might be ethnic cleansing. And nobody who matters would actually care. Most people would cheer.
Can we ship a few of those containers to Harvard?
You left out Step One from your recap: European Zionists colonized Palestine.
You probably wished to imply something mean by that comment. While the statement is mostly correct, I suspect you aimed to misconstrue the meaning of those words.
Yes, towards the end of the 19th century European Zionists decided to exercise their right to self-determination and to re-establish Jewish sovereignty in their homeland i.e. Eretz Yisrael, aka Palestine. Though it wasn't entirely a European project and it wasn't solely a Jewish one, since non-Jewish Zionists and entities also supported the goal. Chief among those was the UK (Balfour Declaration), and much of Europe (San Remo Conference), as well as the League of Nations (the international community at the time). And colonization i.e. spending capital, time and effort on building a civilization is not a bad thing, only in leftist circles. It wouldn't even be a bad thing if it included the defeat of a nomadic-primitive people (see: Ayn Rand on Natives). Yet the Jewish Zionist project was much much gentler than a typical "colonization" project (hard to call it "colonization" if Jews had no home country from where they can go and colonize other lands, that's why re-settling or re-establishing are the correct terms). They got permission from the international community. Then they started to purchase lands, largely useless swamp lands well above their market price from absentee landlords. The land was largely uninhabited, scarcely populated, and the population consisted of serfs and nomads (not much claim to property, let alone any meaningful wealth). And the Jews didn't "take" anything from them, since they had place enough to build their own villages and towns right next to Arab settlements. Which of course, was a good thing, since Jews brought money, knowledge, expertise, and along with these came infrastructure, agriculture, healthcare, and so on... something that the land lacked dearly. All the leftist narratives fall apart quickly once it becomes plain and obvious that the Jews only bought good things to the land, with no hostile or belligerent intention. Sure, one could perhaps argue that "the Arabs had the right to live as primitives who wasted the land's potential because some of them were there sooner of for a longer time than the Jews". This of course, is partially true, though there are a handful of counter-arguments:
- What does "there" mean? Being there as a permanent or temporal resident? Being there as a serf or as someone who owned his property? Being there as a nomad or as a settled serf?
- What does "them" mean? Just how many Arab had to be there for them to "win" this part of the argument? What % and of what religion. There were of course no "Palestinian" identity at the time, and it can be argued that it doesn't exist today either (or if it does, it is the single most damning identity of all).
- What does "for longer" mean? The laughably corrupt UN agency defines "Palestinian refugee" as someone whose "normal place of residency was Mandatory Palestine between 1 June 1946 to 15 May 1948" which is ridiculous and suspicious at the same time. Why does the UN wants us to consider an Arab "more native" than a Jew who was born on the same land decades prior to 1946? Plus let's not forget that Palestinianism is the only congenital refugee status that passes from father to son, which again, is exceedingly absurd and should clearly be NOT a thing.
- Thus the Arabs, including the faux-Palestinians never had any sovereignty over the land, unlike Jews. While Jewish sovereignty was a long time ago, and may find religious, historical or spiritual claims lacking, it matters not, since Jews can also rely on public and customary international law, multiple decisions by significant bodies and powers, as well as undeniable facts on the ground (e.g. Jews won all their wars, thus vae victis).
Yes, I'm aware of the standard pro-Zionist narrative.
There's no "standard pro-Zionist" narrative, and my explanation was certainly not "standard".
But thanks for your comment, after all it is an admission disguised as a cheap retort. The fact that you're unwilling to counter my arguments pretty much shows that it is impossible to counter them. The fact that you can't refute the available facts (e.g. UN's criteria and definition of the "Palestinian refugee" status) only proves that you realized that these facts are inconvenient to your narrative. After all, having these facts and thinking them through (one needs to utilize just an ounce of common sense) immediately damages your narrative. One might ask that "hey, why can any Arab be a Palestinian if they lived just 2 years on the land till 1948?" or can ask "how come Palestinian refugee status is something you can born with, unlike real refugee status for any other people"? And the list could go on and on... while pro-Palestinianists can't answer a single question for they can't refute a single fact, since fact is your kryptonite.
Get a life.
Learn some history and please stfu when you don't know what your lying about.
"One might ask that “hey, why can any Arab be a Palestinian if they lived just 2 years on the land till 1948?”
Whom are you asking? How would the Zionists who founded the state of Israel in 1948 answer? They agreed to all these terms, signed treaties like the one on refugees, and promised the UN to deal legally with the refugee situation as a condition of international recognition of statehood.
Yup, the Joos first showed up in Israel under Queen Victoria. What a student of history you are
Masses of European settlers first showed up in "Israel" when the Zionist movement began in the 19th century. Apparently you're not a student of history.
Actually, they 'showed up' there ~1st century CE, you stupid shit.
Fuck off, Nazi.
-jcr
You left out Step One from your recap: European Zionists colonized Palestine.
You actually believe that kind of neo-Marxist drivel, don't you.
I believe obvious facts of history.
European Jews who moved to Palestine did not "colonize" it. A "colony" is a territory subject to foreign rule. The Romans, Arabs, and Ottomans "colonized" Palestine. European Jews simply immigrated/migrated to it and eventually declared independence.
Even the leftist redefinition of "colonialism", the "displacement of indigenous people", doesn't apply, because Jews are unquestionably and demonstrably the indigenous people of Israel, forcibly evicted and oppressed by Romans, Arabs, and Ottomans. Yet, you take the side of their oppressors.
What's so stunning about the left is that, in the same breath, you can spread this nonsense about Israel's supposed "colonialism", you then justify the invasion, displacement, and cultural destruction of the indigenous people of Europe by Arabs, Africans, and Asians.
"European Jews who moved to Palestine did not “colonize” it. A “colony” is a territory subject to foreign rule. "
Weren't Europeans, Jews or otherwise, foreigners in Palestine?
"and cultural destruction of the indigenous people of Europe by Arabs, Africans, and Asians."
I'm not sure where you are going with this. Africans, Arabs and Asians have destroyed the indigenous people of Europe, but Europeans didn't destroy the Palestinians because they weren't foreigners? It makes no sense.
Again, you're illustrating the utter intellectual bankruptcy of the Israeli case. You do it almost with every comment you make on the subject.
One more antisemite Nazi shitstain heard from.
Weren’t Europeans, Jews or otherwise, foreigners in Palestine?
No. The indigenous people of the area of Israel, Gaza, and the West Bank are the Jews, both historically and genetically. Romans, Ottomans, and Muslims were/are colonialists, oppressors, and invaders.
Africans, Arabs and Asians have destroyed the indigenous people of Europe
Are you illiterate? I didn’t say they “have done so”, I am saying that leftists are “justifying” the invasion of Europe by these people. Hopefully, we can actually kick these invaders and colonialists out of Europe again before they destroy European indigenous societies and culture.
"The indigenous people of the area of Israel, Gaza, and the West Bank are the Jews"
So, these 'European Jews' were not actually European Jews at all, but Israeli Jews, Gazan Jews and West Bank Jews? And presumably anyone who wasn't Jewish but lived in Israel, Gaza or the West Bank simply didn't exist? You line of argument has taken a Hitlerian turn.
"we can actually kick these invaders and colonialists out of Europe"
We? I'll sit this one out, thanks. Europe brought this situation through its own actions. Most recently with their unforgivable meddling in Libya and Syria which resulted in a wave of refugees. They call it karma, reaping what ye sow, what goes around comes around, chickens coming home to roost. If you want to try to turn back the clock of history, it only goes to underline what I've said before. Everything you opine on the subject illustrates the intellectual bankruptcy of Israel's position.
So, these ‘European Jews’ were not actually European Jews at all, but Israeli Jews, Gazan Jews and West Bank Jews?
Jews are the indigenous people of the land presently called Israel. European Jews are Jews who were displaced from their ancestral home lands and forced to live in Europe.
And presumably anyone who wasn’t Jewish but lived in Israel, Gaza or the West Bank simply didn’t exist?
Of course, the Arabs and Muslims who live there “exist”, but they are not indigenous and they are colonizers by the standards of progressives and the left. And despite this fact, Israel welcomed the Arabs and Muslims living in its territory and has given them full citizenship.
Europe brought this situation through its own actions. Most recently with their unforgivable meddling in Libya and Syria which resulted in a wave of refugees.
The fact that Muslims are murdering each other by the millions is not the fault of the West. Blame the Ottomans and the reprehensible, violent, intolerant belief system that underlies Islam.
You line of argument has taken a Hitlerian turn.
YOU are literally on the side of Hitler’s collaborators, of genocidal maniacs who want to ethnically cleanse Israel of Jews and mass murder gays and atheists.
"Jews are the indigenous people of the land presently called Israel."
So they are alien to Europe. Shame about the Hitlerian rhetoric. Hitler made the same claim about Jews in Europe, alien vermin etc, and you know where that led. The fact that you have to turn to the arguments put forward by Hitler to justify Israel's treatment of her refugees is despicable. And you'll repeat the same disgusting arguments again and again. What a nasty piece of work you are.
"Of course, the Arabs and Muslims who live there “exist”
Very broad minded and unHitlerian of you to admit it. They exist, but do they have the right to exist?
"but they are not indigenous and they are colonizers by the standards of progressives and the left."
None of this is relevant. Palestinians are refugees under international law, the same laws that bind Israel when she signed those treaties in 1948 on being recognized as a nation. That crap about Romans and Ottomans would be laughed out of court.
"The fact that Muslims are murdering each other by the millions is not the fault of the West."
This is more of your idiocy. The Al Aqsa Flood has been the catalyst for unprecedented unity in the Muslim world. Shiite, Sunni, Arab, Indian, Turk, Persian, Indonesian, all singing from the same song book. You should really make an effort to inform yourself if you're going to comment. That means more than reading tidbits from cue cards provided by lying Zionist propagandists.
"YOU are literally on the side of Hitler’s collaborators"
Here a Hitler, there a Hitler, everywhere a Hitler.
Here a Hitler, there a Hitler, everywhere a Hitler.
Yes, mtrueman, you are a Nazi and an anti-Semite. You keep proving that over and over again. You are utterly vile.
"Yes, mtrueman, you are a Nazi and an anti-Semite. "
Again, nothing but bluster and insults. You need to educate yourself, and lay off the Nazi rhetoric - Palestinians are alien vermin that need to be exterminated. Psychopaths like you reading from the Nazi script really doesn't reflect well on Israel's cause.
Palestinians are alien vermin that need to be exterminated.
Palestinians are part of a large movement that is like Nazis: genocidal, intolerant, racist. They want to destroy Israel, they want to destroy Western societies, they want to exterminate Jews and homosexuals. They have said so. I want Israel and the West to defend ourselves against these people the same way we defended ourselves against the Nazis, by any means necessary. These people are evil and so are you.
Psychopaths like you reading from the Nazi script
YOU are the psychopath reading from the Nazi script; literally, you defend Nazi collaborators who want to exterminate Jews today and believe they are superior to everybody else in the world.
really doesn’t reflect well on Israel’s cause.
Nobody gives a f*ck what you think about Israel’s cause; you are the Nazi sympathizer.
"YOU are the psychopath reading from the Nazi script;"
You've misunderstood me. It's you who called for the unwelcome aliens to be expelled or worse. Just like the Nazis. I'm for integrating the holy lands into one big happy secular state. Unlike the Nazis. You should either learn more about the Nazis or read my comments with more care.
"YOU are literally on the side of Hitler’s collaborators, of genocidal maniacs who want to ethnically cleanse Israel of Jews "
This is more stupidity from you. Hitler and the Nazis were quite happy with all the Jews of Germany relocated to Israel or some other distant land. They issued exit visas and money to Jews willing to leave Germany. That was what Eichmann and Heydrich and other SS personal tried for a decade to arrange without success. Aren't you at all embarrassed at displaying your ignorance so openly? It explains your hiding behind a pseudonym, at any rate.
"The fact that Muslims are murdering each other by the millions "
You keep repeating this fantasy of yours. Is it supposed to convince me? It only shows me you don't know what you're talking about. Since Oct.7, the Muslim world has seen unprecedented unity. Surely you can't have missed that.
You’ve misunderstood me. It’s you who called for the unwelcome aliens to be expelled or worse. Just like the Nazis.
The Nazis didn’t call for the expulsion of “unwelcome aliens”, they called for the extermination of supposedly genetically inferior citizens.
Yes, I call for the expulsion of people who enter the country illegally, who claim false refugee status, and who want to murder me for being a gay atheist. And I don’t apologize for it.
I’m for integrating the holy lands into one big happy secular state.
We have that: it’s called Israel, a country with two million Arab Muslims living in it, with full citizenship rights. A country founded largely by secularists and socialists.
– Freedom of religion: Israel guarantees freedom of religion for all citizens, and people of all faiths can practice their beliefs openly. – No official state religion: Israeli law does not define an official state religion, unlike many other countries.- – Secular plurality: A significant portion of the Israeli population, around 45% of Jewish Israelis, identify as secular. – Secular legal system: Israel’s legal system is based on civil law, not religious law.
It is Palestinians who refuse to live in such a country, who want to establish an Islamic theocracy, not just in Israel, but throughout the Middle East, through terrorism and Islamic revolutions. That’s why they have been expelled from other Muslim countries.
“YOU are literally on the side of Hitler’s collaborators, of genocidal maniacs who want to ethnically cleanse Israel of Jews ”
This is more stupidity from you. Hitler and the Nazis were quite happy with all the Jews of Germany relocated to Israel or some other distant land.
To the contrary, Palestinians collaborated with Hitler and wanted to bring his genocidal program to the Middle East.
“The fact that Muslims are murdering each other by the millions ”
You keep repeating this fantasy of yours. Is it supposed to convince me? It only shows me you don’t know what you’re talking about. Since Oct.7, the Muslim world has seen unprecedented unity. Surely you can’t have missed that.
The Sunni and Shiites are as divided and murderous as ever. A propagandistic “two minutes hate” of Israel doesn’t change that. No Muslim country wants the Palestinians; in fact, many expelled them, that’s how they ended up where they are.
"The Nazis didn’t call for the expulsion of “unwelcome aliens”, they called for the extermination of supposedly genetically inferior citizens."
You need to read some books on the subject. There's so many, so I'm sorry I can't recommend a particular one that comes to mind. The fact remains that Nazis encouraged Jews to leave Germany, even providing funds to do so. If you don't believe me, I encourage you once again to check it out for yourself. Either read a book or ask someone who knows what they're talking about.
"I call for the expulsion of people who enter the country illegally, who claim false refugee status, and who want to murder me for being a gay "
Who is telling you this? I suggest you're being hoodwinked, and expand your sources.
"We have that: it’s called Israel, a country with two million Arab Muslims living in it, with full citizenship rights. "
Again, who is telling you this?
"To the contrary, Palestinians collaborated with Hitler and wanted to bring his genocidal program to the Middle East."
Who is telling you this? Do you have a source? In fact the Nazis collaborated with Zionists, as they had a common enemy in the British. Nazis were more than happy to see German Jews relocated to Palestine, as were the Zionists. It's all in the history books you refuse to read.
"It is Palestinians who refuse to live in such a country,"
Who is telling you this?
"The Sunni and Shiites are as divided and murderous as ever. "
Who is telling you this?
You should find some before making an ass of yourself again.
"You left out Step One from your recap: European Zionists colonized Palestine."
You should try reading some history before making an ass of yourself. Again.
“Jews thought that peace is possible – some of them did so up until 10/7 last year – but the Arabs proved them wrong once again. ”
It seems that prior to the Al Aqsa Flood, Bibi and the Israeli elite believed they had finally achieved peace. Groups like Hamas and the PA could be relied on to administer the occupied territories, and the Palestinian population could be kept down by mowing the lawn every couple of years or so. Jews in Israel were free to live their lives without giving a thought to the millions living lives of desperation in the occupied territories. It was, for better or worse, a final solution to the Palestinian problem. At least until Oct. 7 rolled around, and showed Israel that the peace they thought they’d achieved was illusory. The attack plunged Israeli Jews into a hysterical panic mode from which they’ve yet to recover. After more than 3 months, not a single goal outlined by the PM has been achieved.
One more antisemite Nazi shitstain heard from again.
Mostly peaceful bombing. Done reluctantly and strategically.
100% safe and effective with no downsides!
"Mostly peaceful bombing. Done reluctantly and strategically."
And done without congressional approval. As God intended.
And here I thought we were through with war in the Middle East. This is great. Just like Old Times !
And when the US Civil War gets underway, it will be like really old times!
Psst! You guys are Christian Nationalists, right?
[glances around warily]
Are we supposed to wear the red crosses with a white background throwback uniforms, the blue and/or grey ones, or the chocolate chip cookie dough ones?
All of the ghosts—or perhaps zombies—of U.S. foreign policy for the past 30 years seem to be assembling into one big war.
It's always been one big war: pan-Arab Islamists vs the rest of the world.
Yahya Sare’e: "The airstrikes will not deter further Houthi attacks on shipping."
Biden: "Okay. Continue the airstrikes."
Deleting the Iranian navy and air force in their entirety along with whatever the Houthis have would get a lid on this shit.
-jcr
Riiiiiight! Because that has worked SO WELL for the last six decades ...
Americans are being held hostage in Gaza, and we've got motherfucking Jimmy Carter 2.0 in the goddamned White House.
-jcr
I'm so sick of this half-measures nonsense.
Just nuke Iran. Everything falls apart after that.
Because everyone else is proxies of Iran.
Yemen = Houthi
Lebanon = Hezbollah
Palestine = Hamas
Iraq = Kataib
Bahrain = Al Ashtar
Afghanistan = Taliban
Somalia = Al Shabaab
Nigeria = IMN
Albania = IRGC
And so on and so on.
THESE ARE NOT ACTUAL COUNTRIES. These are not peaceful nations with pockets of radicals. These. Are. IRAN.
Stop pussyfooting around and just cut the head off the snake. I will vote for whatever President declares that his first official act will be to do whatever it takes to nuke Tehran, Mashhad, and Shiraz as soon as possible. With other Iranian cities to be named later if that's not enough.
Yes ... you are SO sick ...
Why? Why would you instead prefer to let Islamic terrorist nations thrive and act with impunity when their name for us is The Great Satan and every thought and choice they make is prefaced by and motivated toward how best to succeed in killing us all?
Iran has watched us for half a century and has machinated this asymmetric warfare against Israel and the West. Do you know the most powerful weapon in their arsenal right now? It's the American media and the educational subversion that has every day Americans cheering for the terrorists.
They're not fighting a typical boots-on-ground war against us. They're not even fighting in the skies or in the seas. They're coming at us crab-legged through these proxy nations of theirs - so we have to change OUR strategy.
And I can't think of a better, more decisive way to do that than to just rain indiscriminate fire and death on them from above, from which none of them will survive. The tree is Iran. If it's uprooted, all the fruit and branches that are these fake countries like Syria and Yemen that are 100% dependent on Iran will wither and die.
Iran needs to go. Period. And then, once they're a smoldering ash heap - we turn a real stern eye towards Russia and China who are currently salivating over Ukraine and Taiwan respectively, both with a higher/shared goal that is decidedly anti-West as well.
"Iran needs to go."
You're deluding yourself if you think turning Iran into an ash heap will solve Israel's problems with her Palestinian refugees. America's establishment might think we can bomb our way out of our problems, but they are either senile or corrupt. What's your excuse? Public school education?
It's not about solving Israel's problem with the Iranian proxy that is "Palestine" (which isn't a thing) and its culture of terrorists. That's just an incidental benefit.
It's about taking the most belligerent of belligerent nations off the playing field, and in doing so leaving its proxy terror nations to wither on the vine.
"taking the most belligerent of belligerent nations off the playing field"
Remind me, are the Taliban on the playing field or off the playing field. America can't afford to be humiliated by Iran.
"They’re coming at us crab-legged through these proxy nations of theirs – so we have to change OUR strategy. "
Your idea of a change is dropping really big bombs instead of slightly big bombs? I think you're hysterical. Just like the Israelis after Oct. 7, acting overly emotional, rather than the change of strategy you are talking about. Nuking Iran isn't something Biden would do. Fortunately, both America and Iran seem to want to avoid escalation, though who knows what circumstances might back either side over the edge.
How about this reminder?
mtrueman|8.30.17 @ 1:42PM|#
“Spouting nonsense is an end in itself.”
Fuck off and die, antisemitic Nazi shit.
America can’t afford to be humiliated by Iran.
We’re humiliated by Iran every day they continue to exist as a nation. Every American moron out there shouting “Free Palestine” is America being humiliated by Iran. Every tanker avoiding the Red Sea is America being humiliated by Iran. Every death in our allied nations by jihadi terrorist cowards is America being humiliated by Iran.
Iran knows America is weak because of people like you. And they’re stabbing at that underbelly every. single. day. America can’t afford to be humiliated by Iran? YOU’RE humiliating America FOR Iran right here and right now.
But I’ll tell you what, apologist – go ahead and humor me. What’s your solution for dealing with a belligerent nation whose single commitment in everything they do is to seeing you, me, and everyone like us exterminated?
Your idea of a change is dropping really big bombs instead of slightly big bombs?
Yes, my idea of change is dropping really big bombs instead of slightly big bombs. My idea of change is the total and complete annihilation of the nation of Iran, followed by a mop-up of any proxies that aim to act on their behalf and toward their ultimate goal. To the degree that we’ll have to redraw the map of the world by the time we’re done.
You think that’s emotional? It’s not. It’s a stark realization that Iran is NOT going to stop. Unless they’re stopped.
You want peace in the Middle East? You want no more foreign wars? You want to stop committing American time, energy, and money to endless battles? Then nuke Iran. Nuke it off the face of the planet. Is there even a single valid reason why we shouldn’t?
But you know what? Humor me. What’s your idea of change? Please, by all means tell me your plans for avoiding escalation with someone constantly and openly plotting your very brutal and very public murder. Name me one thing that Iran has ever done that deserves praise or accolade that should spare them from nuclear annihilation.
I’ll wait.
"I’ll wait."
Good idea. No need to go off half-cocked and letting your emotions govern you. Don't be thin skinned, and expect everyone to love America. Get a grip.
Yea, I didn't think you'd be able to name one.
Because such a thing does not exist.
You need to calm down and think. No need to go off like a hysterical Israeli politician. Look where it got them.
Oh gee look, more fun from your terrorist besties.
https://abcnews.go.com/International/explosions-reported-us-consulate-iraq-iran-claims-responsibility/story?id=106390671
In your subheading you call it "unfinished". That implies a condition where further action could be used to "finish" things.
That is the perfect view for a Bush/Obama/Clinton/Biden Neolib. Hey, at least you got 3 of your 4 preferences.
I've been gone a while and just popped back in. Are there any actual libertarian contributors left? Or has this site been 100% skinsuited by Establishment/MIC lovers?
Might as well try Slate or Vox. They can't be much worse and the writing quality is probably higher.
For the record: there is NOTHING about the subheading that states or even implies that the author APPROVES of all that "unfinished" business that is coming back yet again to remain unfinished forever. There is also nothing in that subheading or the rest of the article that implies that further action could ever "finish" things. We won't mind at all if you just pop back out again for another few years ...
“Are there any actual libertarian contributors left? Or has this site been 100% skinsuited by Establishment/MIC lovers?”
This article is probably the most Libertarian, anti-interventionist, pro peace thing published here in months. It’s evident in the very first sentence. “The Houthi movement,” it says. Not terrorist or other prejudicial descriptor.
One word of criticism, the article tends to share the establishment obsession with Iran and the belief that Hamas is little more than a tool of Iran. As far as I know Iran took no part in Oct. 7 and were just as surprised by the events as everyone else. Hamas is also supplied by North Korea, China, and smugglers in Ukraine. There are probably others. I even heard that there are mafioso in Israel who deal in weapons with the Palestinians. (Can't vouch for the mafioso bit, it was told me by an Israeli acquaintance around the time of the Rabin assassination.)
"...As far as I know..."
Which is pretty much zero.
The Houthi motto (in their own words) is: “God is Great, Death to America, Death to Israel, Curse on the Jews, Victory to Islam.” They punish atheism, apostasy, and homosexuality by death.
I don’t care whether they are aligned with Iran, or whether you call them “terrorist”. They are the declared mortal enemies of Americans and should therefore be treated as such by us and our military.
"They are the declared mortal enemies of Americans and should therefore be treated as such by us and our military."
Treated like the Taliban were treated, in other words. America is a crumbling empire and the military is a paper tiger. Yemen is one of the most poverty stricken nations on the planet, as was Afghanistan. Twenty years, the US spent in Afghanistan shoring up their quisling government. The Taliban marched into Kabul in broad daylight as the last GIs were flying home. Have you forgotten already? Are you that anxious to resume your war mongering?
“They are the declared mortal enemies of Americans and should therefore be treated as such by us and our military.”
Treated like the Taliban were treated, in other words.
No, not at all. We tried to modernize Afghanistan and help the people there, absolutely pointless exercises. We should instead focus on simply destroying our enemies’ infrastructure and military capabilities, cut them off from international trade and travel, and otherwise leave them alone.
That's trueman; never forget:
mtrueman|8.30.17 @ 1:42PM|#
"Spouting nonsense is an end in itself."
"We tried to modernize Afghanistan and help the people there,"
Save it for the rubes.
“We tried to modernize Afghanistan and help the people there,”
Save it for the rubes.
Well, so you have no problem then with simply bombing the major cities of our enemies into rubble, destroying their infrastructure, and then blockading them? Glad we got that settled.
I don't have any enemies. You can bomb all the cities you want on your own dime.
This is not "pro-peace", it is pro-submission.
It's not even pro-submission. It's global genocide until only they remain.
Matthew
You described what happened on 10/7 as “ The immediate cause of the crisis was unexpected: the mass Hamas-led killing and kidnapping of Israelis last October”. Israelis were not “killed”. One kills a mosquito. Israelis were, at the very least, murdered. More accurately, they were slaughtered. The words we use matter.
It’s a bummer that the US stopped nuclear power development after TMI. Energy independence with a robust electrical grid. And the discovery of fracking just sweetens the pot. With energy independence, the US could ignore the Middle East.
We do have allies in Europe, who are dependent on Middle East oil.
So while we might be energy independent, we would still be affected by events in the Middle East as they would affect our trading partners and allies
"So while we might be energy independent"
How so? America imports large amounts of fossil fuels from both Canada and Mexico. Two foreign nations with socialist/communist governments. That's your idea of energy independence?
We do have allies in Europe, who are dependent on Middle East oil.
They should damned well pay for keeping their own trade routes open; it's not the job of US taxpayers to do it for them.
" it’s not the job of US taxpayers "
The job of the US taxpayer is to pay for stunts like the blowing up of the Russian gas pipeline to Europe, thereby ensuring their dependence on Middle East and American fossil fuels.
What the US should have done is to tell Germany 25 years ago that if they go through with Nordstream 1+2, they will be kicked out of NATO and are on their own.
"What the US should have done is to tell Germany 25 years ago that if they go through with Nordstream 1+2, they will be kicked out of NATO and are on their own."
On their own? Some Imperialist you'd make!
The entire world is finally opening its eyes to what Jews are and what they represent but I wonder if Jews themselves brainwashed from birth that they are the chosen people and are above the law can see it.
The US and its allies are ignoring international law to support Israeli genocide in Gaza.
“So it's a question, and I was talking to some people the other day, as Americans, as taxpayers, wouldn't we want the Sixth Fleet, which is in the Mediterranean, the US Navy's Sixth Fleet, to aid the Palestinians? To provide them support? To create a no-fly zone over these innocent people that are being massacred? I mean, as Americans, isn't that the natural, shouldn't that be the natural ask? The natural desire to demand our politicians to use, because American naval vessels have been used for humanitarian causes before. Why aren't they supporting the Palestinians? Why aren't they providing them aid? Why aren't they helping them rebuild? Why are American tax dollars going to continue this genocide rather than stop it and aid the victims?
I think these are questions Americans need to ask themselves because it makes absolutely no sense. It is absolute madness that people are allowing their government to support a genocide that's not even done in secret. It's not even done in hiding it. It's on prime time. Everybody sees it. Everybody knows what's going on. And again, for some strange reason, Americans are allowing their military and their government to aid the genocide. And there's no question, I mean, there's no question that it's genocide. I mean, the definition of the crime of genocide is so absolutely clear, anybody can look it up and compare it to what's been going on in Palestine. So that to me is really the greatest questions. Why aren't Americans demanding that the US support the Palestinians?”
Miko Peled
When you’re a hammer, everything is a nail.
When you’re a genocidal jew, everyone else is an antisemite Nazi.
What’s Biden’s excuse?
I guess he doesn’t want to be an “antisemite Nazi” to his wealthy Jewish donor puppeteers, freemason overlords.
What’s your excuse for supporting genocide?