Lab Leak Is Not a Conspiracy Theory, Anthony Fauci Concedes
The doctor's claims that he was open to either explanation is flatly contradicted by his literal words.

Former White House coronavirus advisor Anthony Fauci doesn't believe the lab leak explanation of COVID-19's origins is a conspiracy theory. He admitted as much during a closed-door grilling session before the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic on Monday. Legislators did not release a transcript of his testimony, but Rep. Brad Wenstrup (R–Ohio), the chairman of the subcommittee, published some highlights on X (formerly Twitter).
✔️Dr. Fauci acknowledged that the lab-leak hypothesis is not a conspiracy theory.
This comes nearly four years after prompting the publication of the now infamous "Proximal Origin" paper that attempted to vilify and disprove the lab-leak hypothesis.
— Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic (@COVIDSelect) January 10, 2024
In recent months, Fauci has denied he ever categorically rejected the possibility that COVID-19 accidentally escaped from a laboratory. But he faces very serious allegations that he deterred scientific experts from considering it. At issue is "The Proximal Origin of Sars-CoV-2," a paper that appeared in Nature Medicine, a scientific journal, in March 2020 at the very start of the global pandemic. Fauci—who was then head of the National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID)—and Francis Collins—then director of the National Institutes of Health—participated in a conference call with the authors, whose initial openness to a lab leak explanation changed significantly prior to publication. The paper ultimately ruled out a lab leak as not just "unlikely"—the phrasing used in an early draft of the paper—but "improbable."
More recently, Fauci has contended that he always remained open to the idea, but was persuaded by scientific arguments—including those in the proximal origin paper—that a zoonotic spillover was more likely. This claim would be more persuasive if Fauci had not stated over and over and over and over again, in media interviews, that he "strongly favored" the zoonotic origin theory; his subsequent suggestion that he did not lean in either direction is flatly contradicted by his literal words.
"I wasn't leaning totally strongly one way or the other"
-Dr. Fauci pic.twitter.com/77hjmamKtc
— Matt Orfalea (@0rf) January 10, 2024
It was certainly in Fauci's interest to downplay the possibility that human experimentation on viruses accidentally unleashed COVID-19 upon the world; during his career, Fauci remained one of the foremost advocates of public funding for gain-of-function research, in which scientists manipulate viruses in order to make them deadlier and more transmissible. Fauci and other public health experts have straightforwardly denied that the U.S. funded such research in Wuhan, China, but critics say this is an exercise in semantics. Indeed, EcoHealth Alliance—a U.S. nonprofit that obtained public funding to conduct research on bat coronaviruses in Wuhan, China—was caught actively misleading Pentagon officials about the nature of the experimentation: Peter Daszak, the head of EcoHealth Alliance, advised colleagues to deceive regulators about the fact that the research would be conducted in China under laxer lab safety standards.
A cadre of elite scientists deliberately lied to U.S. security officials in order to spend American tax dollars performing risky experiments under substandard laboratory conditions in a notoriously secretive and authoritarian foreign country. Maybe those experiments created COVID-19, and maybe they didn't. In any case, it's clearly not a conspiracy theory; good of Fauci to recognize the obvious, however belatedly it might be.
One can debate the extent of Fauci's wrongdoing here—but it's the mainstream media that really dropped the ball in terms of lab leak discourse. The Washington Post was an early offender, accusing Sen. Tom Cotton (R–Ark.) of "repeating a coronavirus theory that was already debunked." The article explicitly applied the phrase "conspiracy theory" to the lab leak idea; The New York Times did the same, noting that the lab leak had been "dismissed by scientists." In fact, The Times' lead coronavirus reporter, Apoorva Mandavilli, went a step further, calling lab leak a racist theory.
Mandavilli's tone toward the lab leak was broadly representative of a whole host of mainstream journalists, media commentators, and so-called fact-checkers and misinformation experts. Following this flawed consensus, social media sites—including Facebook—brutally suppressed any and all discussion of the lab leak theory on their platforms. As recently as August 2023, The Journal of the American Medical Association was still counting lab leak discourse online as evidence of the unstoppable spread of misinformation online. And the Global Disinformation Index—a British non-profit that received funding from the State Department, and tarred Reason as an unsafe news website—warned that blaming the pandemic on a lab leak could lead to racist attacks on Asian people.
That's a long way of saying that self-appointed misinformation cops went to great efforts to censor and stigmatize this topic of conversation, on grounds that it was either racist, or a conspiracy theory, or both. Yet it is neither; even Fauci says so. One might hope that this would prompt some self-reflection within media circles. The anti-misinformation crowd wasn't just wrong—they were militant that it was of vital importance to stop everyone from even contemplating the possibility of a lab leak theory.
There's a perniciousness underlying this attitude, and one that clearly threatens free speech, as many U.S. political figures—including President Joe Biden and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.)—have decided that the federal government should do more to combat purported misinformation. They might consider whether they themselves have been misinformed.
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Fauci’s reign was a crime against humanity.
—but it's the mainstream media that really dropped the ball in terms of lab leak discourse. The Washington Post was an early offender, accusing Sen. Tom Cotton (R–Ark.) of "repeating a coronavirus theory that was already debunked." The article explicitly applied the phrase "conspiracy theory" to the lab leak idea; The New York Times did the same, noting that the lab leak had been "dismissed by scientists." In fact, The Times' lead coronavirus reporter, Apoorva Mandavilli, went a step further, calling lab leak a racist theory.
There was no ball dropping there; MSM has made their bed with their preferred party, and they are not about to stop LYING in it.
Claiming the MSM dropped the ball, when they’ve been captured and are part of the statist government establishment, is blaming the quarterback for fumbling the ball when the coach told him to fumble. The government told the MSM what to say, thanks to Fauci coordinating a fake report that lied, from other scientists involved, and they are to blame more than the subservient MSM.
The corporate MSM depends upon the government for a huge chunk of its revenue and sources for news, and any old reporter will tell you, the media doesn’t bite the hand that feeds it. Instead, it’s become an arm of the government.
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And it only took the esteemed virus scientist 4 years to reach the obvious conclusion, that COVID-19 didn't break out randomly in a city which happened to have a coronavirus research lab, and infect as its earliest victims some of the workers at that lab.
You know, it’s better than AIDS. It took 25 years for the CDC to admit that the heterosexual AIDS epidemic never happened.
Though different, I’ll draw a parallel between the two in their substantial effects on social interaction. I remember the whole “you have to wear a condom” to prevent aids era, and the push for them even if you’re in a monogamous relationship. I remember early in the era when people I know were afraid to use a public toilet, or even a public water fountain.
Basically, if you weren’t taking it up the pooper or fucking an IV drug addict, your likelihood of getting HIV was infinitesimally small. Condoms even in a relationship pushed the breakdown of monogamous relationships. Condoms prevent AIDS and the billions of dollars of aids research funding pulled the focus away from other diseases like the clap and syphilis, which started to rise. It was like the magic rubber talisman prevented all evil. (here’s a hint, if you wouldn’t fuck them without a rubber because you’re worried about disease, you definitely shouldn’t fuck them WITH a rubber, either)
Massive, scare-mongering, society-wide overreactions to something largely isolated to certain communities, and one that continued long after the facts were known to the point where it heavily affected normal human relationships, routed countless dollars away from other areas of research, and was not acknowledged as such until well after the initial events.
Fauci has an MO. He’s a bad scientist, a bad leader, and a bad human being. The world is worse off for his existence. And for this he was the highest paid bureaucrat in the Federal government and gets a hefty pension for the rest of his life.
He’s a bad scientist
Fauci does not have a degree in any science.
You don't need a degree to be a scientist - just a commitment to the scientific method. But no, Fauci doesn't have that either.
Agreed.
And, though I get what Vernon is saying, I fear claiming that a degree is what confers legitimacy takes away from the real issue, which isn't the definition of scientist, it's the definition of good science.
We all learned the scientific method in Junior High, theoretically. Nowhere in there is "I am the science" or "I have declared a consensus and anyone who challenges it should never be allowed to do so."
Yes 4 years later and all the natural origin sheeple have egg on their faces.
So how did it happen and who’s going to pay for it?
How and where was the virus first created, how did it get to China, who was involved and sought to benefit from its development, who had oversight, who dropped the ball?
Answer these questions and MAYBE we can compensate the world and prevent the next one which could be far worse.
So far, no origin hypothesis has been definitively proven. This admission just covers that the lab origin was always, and still is, at least as credible as a natural origin. Unless someone can force transparency from the CCP, it's possible that we'll never know much with 100% certainty except that however it originated, it happened in China.
We're all paying for it, and will be for the rest of our lives, or until the US government defaults on its sovereign debt and the interest payments on the $Trillions that was wasted on subsidizing the economic/governmental shutdowns and school closures might end.
If natural origin is a real possibility, which it has to be since it's happened many times throughout human history based on the fact that the emergence of "novel" virus strains pre-dates humanity having the technology to do the kind of research that may have created this one, then there's not all that much we can do to really prevent some other novel virus strain from emerging in the future.
Sounds like you’re advocating for another global conspiracy.
The fact is that there is no government desire in either the US, China or any other culpable states for transparency.
They’ve lied, covered up and are responsible. As long as exposing the lie isn’t deemed a crime the truth, reality will be exposed. Even criminalized, courageous righteous people will still expose these global conspiracies.
The legwork to trace Covid has already been done. From US development to transfer to China when gain of function work was outlawed in the US, through ignored US warnings about dangerous incompetence in China, to the impossible story of natural origin.
Corrupt shills like yourself only support these conspiracies with your transparent bigotry.
What color is the sky in your world?
Knowing that China lied about certain things only means that we know their particular claims are false. Knowing the truth requires information that's still under the control of a government which wouldn't hesitate to "dissapear" or kill anyone they suspect might try to leak the truth to anyone they can't control; there's no guarantee that the truth will ever be made widely available. That's not a "conspiracy", it's how totalitarian governments work (odd that you don't know that since you're such a strong advocate for implementing policies which would creating one here in the USA), especially when the government is empowered to determine what is or isn't "true".
The "natural" emergence of a novel virus strain is far from impossible. It's happened probably hundreds of times throughout the history of life on this planet (or are you one of those batshit christian fundies who misreads the Old Testament to mean that the world is about 6000 years old?); the fact that it's happened many times before (every "common" strain of coronavirus, flu, and rhinovirus was a "novel" strain at some point in the past) means that its 100% possible for it to happen again.
This next part requires an actual understanding of logic, so I'll understand when you're either unable or unwilling to actually comprehend its meaning:
To acknowledge that it's possible to have happened this time, and that it's possible that it could be the cause next time doesn't imply anything regarding whether or not the data proves that it definitely happened. I actually think that the data points to an accidental "lab leak" being the most likely explanation, but there's not enough data to day that it's absolutely proven to be the case, especially when there's alternative explanation which can't be completely ruled out.
As long as it's possible for a new novel strain to emerge completely independent of human activity, there's nothing we can really do to prevent another one from developing sometime in the future. We can reduce the risk of any new viruses or new novel strains which are created by human activity from being accidentally released (I'm not sure that the current strategy of moving the research from China to Vietnam, Myanmar, and possibly The Philippines is going to prove to be a good way to reduce that risk), but that's not the same thing as preventing another naturally occuring strain from appearing at some point.
The virus couldn’t have occurred naturally.
The bats where the virus base originated were from Yunnan province 1000 miles from Wuhan.
The first cases weren’t in Yunnan or on the road to Wuhan and bats don’t fly that far.
So yeah the natural origin story is bullshit.
When people lie to us they are stealing our agency to make immediate informed decisions.
Lying also coerces us to unknowingly make decisions in the liars interests instead of our own.
Lies are the basis for all conflict.
We need to criminalize lying to reduce all forms of corruption.
So what if Jews need to find a new religion.
It's fascinating that you're happy to accept a quantity of circumstantial evidence as definitive regarding something you want to believe, but demand impossible levels of empirical data to prove things which you want to disbelieve, and probably can't even recognize the distinction.
WTF do the Jews have to do with Covid? Do you think that the Chinese researchers or lab administrators are Jewish? Or the WHO officials who covered for them? Or Anthony Fauci?
How about we apply your standard of "truth" to religion? Prove with hard data that God exists as a conscious being who's actively involved with events on the Earth at some level, or else any religion involving a deity is based on a lie, and we should all take up Taosim instead.
We all get that you're batshit crazy and mostly operating in a different reality than most of the mammals on this planet. Do you think that you're accomplishing something by continuing to steer harder into that skid?
The proof has been there ever since January to February 2020, when the first transcript of the COVID-19 DNA was released. The spike protein DNA showed looked like it had been genetically manipulated, just where a lab doing gain of function research would have made changes to make the virus more infectious to humans.
Beyond that, if the spike protein change occurred naturally, it could not have happened in a single step from infecting _only_ bats to infecting _only_ humans. There would have been a mutation producing a virus that could infect both bats and humans well enough to survive in either, then transference to humans, and a period of evolution until the spike protein was perfectly suited to humans and utterly unsuited to bats. There is no sign of any such intermediate stage. And this miraculous change occurred at the exact same time that a virus from bats 800 miles away suddenly popped up in Wuhan, near a lab where Fauci had arranged to do gain of function research funded by the US government.
Beyond that, gain of function research is bioweapons research. Funding that in China is like if we had funded experiments to investigate the possibility of nuclear fission at the University of Berlin in Nazi Germany instead of Columbia University. It sure looks like treason to me.
Is there proof that the "pandemic" strain can't infect bats at all?
Since the lab was likely collecting and transporting bats from various regions, it's not impossible that one or more escaped captivity during transport and found somewhere to live closer to, or in the area around Wuhan. The bats carrying the primal virus in question could possibly be present somewhere other than where they're native as a result of human intervention.
It may not absolutely impossible that a natural mutation matching the furin cleavage gene change could happen (when I started to read up on it, the name seemed to refer to a relatively small number of DNA alterations). I'd have to ask my brother and hope I could comprehend his answer (he majored in genetics and has worked in biomed research of some kind for decades, including some work in gene mapping).
I agree that a lot of the evidence that's available does point toward a laboratory origin, and accidental escape for the virus, but I don't know enough about the "nuts and bolts" of the field to think that what I know about is 100% conclusive (or even that it's 100% accurately reported). My personal opinion is that the "lab leak" does seem to be likely to be the actual explanation in the case of Covid-19 (or else there's a whole stackup of incredible coincidences); I definitely don't beleive that the "experts" overall (especially the ones used as the comparison baseline for determining censorable "misinformation") have been honest with the public at most points in time of the progression of the virus from "pandemic" to "endemic", but that's not because I have 100% certainty that I know the truth myself.
The catch with certainty is that since we know for a fact that scores or hundreds of novel virus strains infecting humans, often "jumping species" have occurred naturally through human history. Anything that's happened multiple times in the past can't possibly be ruled to be impossible in the present or future. Even if I happen to think the "lab leak" is 95% likely to be the explanation this time, it would be premature to rule out some kind of natural origin completely (especially with maybe 80% confidence in the information leading me to my particular opinion).
No Rob, you're a Nazi, not a scientist.
I'm pretty sure the Nazis had scientists
You two fuckwits can fight about that.
YOU are calling so0meeone else a fuckwit?
Amusing, steaming pile of Nazi shit.
I have been saying this for three years: Fauci was a bureaucrat, not a scientist. Scientists employ the scientific method to expand human knowledge. Bureaucrats employ the power of government to control others, expand the scope of their authority , and deflect blame when they get things wrong.
Well, he certainly lied like a politician or a member of the MSM or a two-year old caught with his hand in the cookie jar. If I didn't like lawyers, I'd sue the bastards.
Do you mean "if I didn't _hate_ lawyers?"
Wasn't Fauci neck deep in the AIDS nonsense in the 1980's?
Kept the water fountains at my grade school closed for 2 years.
The raccoon dogs worked at the WIV?!?
it's the mainstream media that really dropped the ball
And Reason.
^ cosigned
As I commented above,
There was no ball dropping there; MSM has made their bed with their preferred party, and they are not about to stop LYING in it.
These days conspiracy theory is synonymous with spoilers. How long until undeniable evidence about 2020 comes out I wonder?
We are going to need new conspiracy theories. All of our old ones have proven true.
Just go back to the Bible.
"As a dog returns to his vomit, so a fool repeats his folly"
Prov. 26:11 comes to mind
Three years just wasn't enough time to find it?
Go ask Tom Cotton.
“The Times‘ lead coronavirus reporter, Apoorva Mandavilli, went a step further, calling lab leak a racist theory.”
I’ve said this many times before, but I still find hilarious and absurd the idea that the ‘Lab Leak Theory’ is anywhere near as racist as the ‘Wet Market Theory’, let alone more so somehow.
Lab Leak Theory: Highly trained scientists doing cutting edge research in a sophisticated high tech laboratory experienced an accidental loss of containment, leading to the outbreak. The notoriously authoritarian political regime that they operate under was less than forthcoming with information that could be politically embarrassing.
Wet Market Theory: A bunch of dirty foreign peasants couldn’t control their cravings for weird ethnic foods, and obviously have no concept of standards for hygiene or sanitation.
Because according to CRT/DEI, only white people have agency.
Chinese scientists literally can't ever do anything, because they aren't white. So they couldn't have created a virus. It had to be random chance from animals.
I have wondered the same, as to why a lab leak was so unacceptable but some unregulated Chinese "wet market" was so good to go.
I suppose that means DEI is a hypocritical, irrational farce?
More inclined to believe that key members of Team Blue had too much to lose, so obfuscated about the real cause [a shitty lab in Wuhan, about 300 yards from the wet market] that would prove to be too much of an embarrassment to and possibly implicate them in crimes against humanity?
And naturally MSM [already very biased, then sent into orbit to TDS in 2016], like a good soldier, took up the narrative.
Let's not forget Fauci using a front group to participate in that research, as Obama had ended it due to the very safety concerns that manifested themselves in late 2019.
Note the other part of the Wet Market theory: The dirty peasants showed amazing skill and dedication when they went 800 miles away to find a bat that was infected with a mutant bat virus that no longer could infect bats, but was perfectly suited to infect humans. Then they sold it right next to a science lab working on mutating viruses to better infect humans.
I can help.
The “racist” appellation is related to the glaringly missing fact in this article: the allegation that the virus was developed as a Chinese bioweapon.
People are not especially racist against hapless foreigners farming dirt and eating cherished pets (well, present company excepted, probably), but they do get rather racially incensed when prominent members of that race engineer bioweapons aimed at wiping out the Caucasian population across the world.
Do you see the difference now?
Hey morons, it is still a conspiracy. Fauci is simply stating that of the ways to go, lab leak was unlikely. A LOT unlikely.
But go on with your circular jerking.
Idiot
No faggot, that would be you. Best you commit suicide.
What are the chances that a virus that a research lab specialized in, doesn't come from that lab but from a market in the same town?
Fuck off and die, asshole. Make the world a better place.
And you would be a sock for.....Pluggo.
Yeah, I'd suspect a Shrike sock as Shrike (Pluggo) has been rather antagonistic toward Sevo in the past.
Bitch, if you knew that the WIV existed and was at ground zero for the rona breakout, and still believed the wet market nonsense for even a minute you are too fucking stupid to be allowed to speak.
Idiot fucking boot licker.
Do you understand the difference between the words conspiracy and unlikely? Go look it up
A lot unlikely? yeah, there is a math term no one but idiots use.
The lab theory isn't any less unlikely than the wet market, expect to true believers like you. I bet you were a mask still. Come on be honest.
AMNESTY!!!
NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE!
FAIR TRIALS BEFORE THE HANGINGS!
The Office of Special Masters of the U.S. Court of Federal Claims, popularly known as "vaccine court", administers a no-fault system for litigating vaccine
Just pick the jurors from the pool of people denied compensation by the vaccine court... Its the equiv of having a republican on trial in DC
Hey now, let’s not get carried away.
I’m still wondering why they tried to shut down the lab leak theory. Were they scared it would spook the markets if China/CCP were held accountable!(which it should be). The lockdowns did a lot more damage to the economy.
Because then gain of function research would be outlawed. I honestly have no idea why it's legal, much less why we are funding it in China.
Do you think it might have had something to do with their desire to avoid being punished for illegally funding dangerous research in the less secure labs of a potential enemy and using deception to cover up the fact that their bag man (i.e. subcontractor) lied to them about their contractual obligations in supervising the research?
Yes. But now it is "old news" [that is not an accident either, by the way] and it is time to "move on .org"
Covidians: "Why you bringin' up old shit?"
I honestly don't understand the why of gain of function research, unless you want to use it as a bioweapon and that's not something you should want.
Consider the possibility that you might want to see what potential enemies can achieve before those enemies actually achieve bioweapons against which you have no defense. If you can use gain of function to make a bioweapon, then you also have a chance to develop a defense against it. Is that extremely dangerous? Obviously, yes! Is outsourcing that research to a potential enemy in their laboratories where substandard safety precautions and security prevail outrageously stupid? Whether or not you think that the risks associated with gain-of-function virus research are worth the potential benefits, banning such research in your own secret, high security laboratories only to skyrocket the risks by conducting it elsewhere seems … I don’t know … words fail me here …
Isn’t this what traditional spy work is for?
Defense intelligence is concerned about potential for biological warfare. We must train specialized spies to infiltrate the government facilities of high threat countries.
Report:
Sci-Spy: China is doing gain of function research in this location on this biologic. Here’s documents.
DoD Option A: Let’s engage in counter research to have a vaccine or remedy on standby.
Option B: Secretly sabotage research.
Option C: Covert operation to destroy lab and research and make it look like the not at all suspicious NordicStream pipeline.
The official answer is that the research is necessary to develop defenses against bioweapons.
NO Q & A session to follow, right?
Yep, it's why the research was initially funded by DTRA.
“They might consider whether they themselves have been misinformed.”
And then again, they might NOT consider that! When government has the almost unlimited power to do whatever powerful officials want to do, those officials can almost always find – or pay for – “evidence” to justify their actions. When some of that unlimited power comes in the form of punishing opponents, totalitarianism is not far away. The right to defend yourself depends at least partly on the limitation of official authority in the form of due process, but when officials are not effectively constrained by due process in their actions; when they are, in fact, protected by qualified and unqualified immunity from damages and almost never punished or even brought up on criminal charges for even obvious misconduct; when they have access to virtually unlimited financial, time and manpower resources and nothing to lose personally in their pursuit and destruction of private victims who have limited resources and almost everything to lose personally; then the situation becomes intolerable! Collins and Fauci may very well get away with “semantics” almost four years after the damage has been done, with Congress critters engaging in mock show trials for political effect, but unless the perpetrators of this disaster are actually punished then there is nothing stop it from happening again and again and again, “over and over and over” until there is nothing left of limited government and Constitutional rights except a hollow shell and lip-service to the land of the free. Good luck to us in the former home of the brave.
Normally I'm opposed to public executions by slow torture, but in Fauci's case I'd make an exception. Put that shit on C-SPAN.
“And the Global Disinformation Index … warned that blaming the pandemic on a lab leak could lead to racist attacks on Asian people.”
I’m sorry, but I can’t help noticing the contrast. Postulating that Covid escaped from a laboratory located in Wuhan, China that was experimenting with viruses somehow causes people to beat up their Asian-American neighbors. By criticizing Israel has absolutely nothing to do with anti-Semitism. Go figure.
It's about tribes and teams; which you fall into has a LOT to do with how it's reported.
Another comment which completely ignores the "conspiracy theory" part: that the virus was related to a Chinese bioweapon.
(Which also explains the "racist attacks" claim you found so puzzling.)
Anthony Fauci is a Stain on society and deserves that his legacy is a disgrace. His name should be remembered in history for the evil misdeeds he fostered and shielded. He chopped down truth with a sickle like efficiency harvesting grain.
To "Fauci" is synonymous to being a Liar with more emphasis on lying due to the disillusion belief that the population is too stupid to know the truth or lying to achieve political goals by controlling access to information.
"You can fool some of the people all of the time..."
Hell, you only need 50.01% of them.
Fauci also said in his testimony that he could not recall (over 100 times) when asked about conversations about the origins of Covid and that he never read any of the funding proposals he approved, ever.
When did the definition of "Conspiracy Theory" become basically identical to "hoax" or "urban legend"?
I mean, the idea that China suffered a lab leak is a theory, and if that theory is true, there may well have been a conspiracy to cover it up afterwards.... and yet even when under oath, Fauci was instantly comfortable understanding that that's not what his questioners were asking, and they had a different definition in mind. I would have been more cautious about that.
"...The doctor's claims that he was open to either explanation is flatly contradicted by his literal words..."
Fauci lies. Fauci lies when he knows he’s lying. Fauci lies when we know he’s lying. Fauci lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
Fauci lies. Fauci is a lying pile of authoritarian shit.
So when is Fauci running for political office ? He seems to have all of the qualifications needed.
A gift for mendacity [aka bald assed lying to your face] and the support of MSM?
Yep, that will do it.
He lies, and he's over 80?
Must be hard for the "trust the science" cucks at Reason.
Can you just imagine what pusillanimous cowards they would be under a real regime of tyranny [Stalin, Mao, or Nazi], instead of being called out on social media and disinvited from Manhattan cocktail parties?
JRE's description of "bags of milk" comes to mind.
Democrats are shameless. They will politicize anything; including medicine and health!
Nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.
Cmon it’s like leading a child to a conclusion that should be obvious to us all: THEY MIHOP.
I mean fuck it’s all right there for us to see, the timing with trumps presidency, the remarks about strozke’s “backup plan”, the shutdown of civil discourse across all media - what other explanation is there but our gov deliberately released a virus that killed millions?
As an aside, can you imagine being fed feet first into a woodchipper? Conscious and lucid? I wouldn’t wish that on anyone unless they had millions of murders under their belt.
(Like this.)
Took four years to concede lab leak was possible and it also took him 2+ years to concede to the benefits of natural immunity. He's not a scientist, he's a full of sh*t politician/bureaucrat.
Yep...viruses which mutate rapidly cannot be fought with "vaccines"..or we would have one for the common cold. Treatment is the sane course with covid not vaccines. And they should have known that..
Fauci lied. People died. Fauci is complicit in mass murder.
It may not be true, but it rhymes!
Not a word about "bioweapon" claims in the entire article. I hadn't thought it possible to discuss the lab-leak "conspiracy" without mentioning its most significant purpose...
Whether the virus escaped a research lab or occurred in the wild is of magnitudes less importance than if the virus was "engineered" as a bioweapon (presumably by China), and/or released as such, as the conspiracy theory goes.
Cannot imagine why "experts" have lost so much credibility.
This is a garbage article. One which just feeds antivaxx bullshit while ignoring salient facts. Fact one: there's still no evidence to support "lab leak." Fact two: the comments made by Fauci and other scientists discussing it as a conspiracy theory were addressing actual conspiracy theories. Ignoring those facts is engaging in the bullshit Robby is accusing "the media" of doing.
Take the shot and shut up...Reason Editors...a bit late to push back isn't it Nick/Matt and the NYC/DC gang?
Covid was not the bubonic plague. The entire media and "professional" public health folks who have been given billions to prepare for the "big one" lost their minds and panic and politics took over. As for Fauci, met him as an undergraduate when he showed up for an AIDs discussion (I was a chemistry major) and thought he was more of a salesman or bureaucrat type not a working biochemist/virologist.
If he really thought Covid was the plague, funny how his first focus was covering the obvious illegal funding of a Chinese military bioweapons research lab with US tax dollars which just "happened" to be in the same city as the outbreak. And why hasn't Congress had the guy from Eco Health Alliance answer some questions? Did he flee to the UK?
I hope the Supreme Court takes this into consideration when deciding Missouri versus Biden. It is clear that the suppression of free speech is dangerous to public health. The thing that is most ironic about this is that if they just admitted at the outset that there was a better than 50% chance that this was caused by a lab leak related to bioweapon research, I bet vaccine uptake would've been much higher than it otherwise was.