This Company Is Running a High-Speed Train in Florida—Without Subsidies
Brightline is the first privately funded intercity rail line in the U.S. in over 100 years.

It comes as no surprise that President Joe Biden—who has reportedly ridden Amtrak trains over 8,000 times—supports pouring endless amounts of taxpayer money into the outdated, slow-moving system. In 2021, as part of the massive federal infrastructure law, the Biden administration gave Amtrak $66 billion, the largest government subsidy for passenger rail since the creation of Amtrak in 1971. But private companies, like Brightline in Florida, are trying to find profitable ways to bring passenger rail to the United States.
On September 22, Brightline opened service between Orlando and Miami. Topping out at 125 mph, it completes the trip in about three hours. For comparison, Amtrak takes roughly 6.5 hours to complete the same route, depending on the direction.
Brightline is the first privately funded intercity rail line in the U.S. in over 100 years, as well as the second-fastest train in the country (after Amtrak's Acela line in the Northeast). It may not be truly high-speed rail by the global definition, but it's certainly better than the region's 80 mph Amtrak alternative.
Michael Reininger, CEO of Brightline, says that passenger rail can make commercial sense under certain conditions—such as in Florida, where it connects two populous, tourist-friendly cities that are over 230 miles apart. At that distance, Reininger says, "it is too far to drive and too short to fly. You can approximate the time of flying significantly, improve the time of driving, and you can offer it at a price point that makes it an economic proposition."
In order to get the most out of $5 billion in private investments, Brightline had to be mindful of its bottom line—but others attempting to build high-speed rail in the U.S. don't seem to care how much they spend and have no shame in asking for more taxpayer money.
Perhaps the worst example is the California state government's high-speed rail project, which has turned into something so "foolish" that it's "almost a crime," according to Quentin L. Kopp, the former state senator who was crucial in rallying support for the original $10 billion bond measure to fund the project. The 520-mile railway between San Francisco and Los Angeles was supposed to be completed by 2020. But after eight years of construction, they've only started to lay track for a 170-mile stretch in the Central Valley. The project, which has received over $20 billion in state and federal subsidies, is now projected to cost over $128 billion. Brian Kelly, the CEO of the California High-Speed Rail Authority, says that spending nearly $1.8 million per day was not "enough" and that the project's daily burn rate is now closer to $3 million (with very little to show for it).
Yet that hasn't stopped the federal government from recently giving the doomed project an additional $200 million.
Florida's Brightline offers a blueprint for a way passenger rail can actually work in the U.S. without massive federal subsidies. Only time will tell if its business model can be replicated in other states and bring competition and choice to the railway market.
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Brightline is now looking at connecting Vegas to parts of southern California. I wonder if that line will be completed before the state's high speed choo-choo is, despite CA having had an 8-year head start.
Brightline have a much better idea. The right of way is there (I15), they don't have to pass over the mountain ranges. They're only going to Riverside county, so they don't have to deal with the LA central congestion, and the terminal station connects to an existing metrolink line to get people to downtown LA.
Getting from Bakersfield to LA, over the Tehachapis, is quite a task. The grapevine is too steep for trains of any speed, much less high speed trains, and there are no easy routes for new rail to union station no matter how indirect the course. The high speed rail may, one day, go from Bakersfield to Fresno, but it'll never go to LA and SF.
The fun part will be comparing the time needed for permits and the final costs for the interstate version between Deep blue CA and NV, republican Gov but Democrat senators. I am also interested to see how much the feds try to step in.
Wasn't the issue with the last attempt at a Vegas to LA train that the NIMBYs litigated for 6 years or something every time they tried to establish the endpoint station ? I remember the "No sin city to Disneyland" propaganda in the news from the local PTA out there or something.
WTF?!?! A positive Florida story?
Perhaps Operation Wolfe is expanding to other fronts.
Incidentally, Florida’s “medium speed” rail at 125 mph is a lot faster than Cali’s high speed rail of 0 mph.
3 hours to go 230 miles is not 125mph.
Sure, if it was non-stop.
Just because it can top out there doesn't mean the entire route supports that speed.
WTF?!?! A positive Florida story?
I'm sure we'll get a "Florida Man" story out of it sooner or later.
According to the mighty Google, driving takes 3 hr. & 41 min.
It is 241 miles, or about 12 gallons of gas; $36 or so.
Brightline is $119 coach and $149 'premium'. This does not include the uber trip or parking if you take your own car.
Bright line terminals are at the Orlando airport, and Downtown Miami. Miami parking is $10/day, Orlando airport parking is $20/day. And the shuttle drop from the parking lots is "a 13 minute walk" from the terminal.
On the other hand, it is a good deal for a tourist without a car.
It’s worth a lot to get the hell out of Miami.
You prefer San Francisco? Who the heck thinks that poorly of Miami?
There's Amtrak from Holland, MI to Chicago, and even when gas prices (>$4) were high and with low fuel economy (<20), it's still faster and less expensive to drive.
Parking in Chicago though, what a scam.
"According to the mighty Google, driving takes 3 hr. & 41 min.
It is 241 miles, or about 12 gallons of gas; $36 or so."
It costs a lot more than just gas to run a car. You also have to factor in the 500 miles of wear and tear and depreciation on the car.
The cost of gas is not the full cost of driving a car. Check the tax deductible cost of driving from the IRS to get a better idea.
My spouse can do work on a train. Can't do that while driving. If you work for yourself on a computer etc it's much better to take the train. You can make back the difference very easily. Plus it's much more comfortable on a train than a plane. Flying is a tin can torture session.
'Michael Reininger, CEO of Brightline, says that passenger rail can make commercial sense under certain conditions—such as in Florida, where it connects two populous, tourist-friendly cities that are over 230 miles apart. At that distance, Reininger says, "it is too far to drive and too short to fly. You can approximate the time of flying significantly, improve the time of driving, and you can offer it at a price point that makes it an economic proposition."'
Just to quibble a bit, 230 miles is well within the distance that favors driving. I calculate my travel time door-to-door, so the quoted 3 hour train trip is probably only half of the total elapsed time. According to Google Maps, we can drive from Miami to Orlando in 3.5 hours.
And 6.5 hours for Amtrak is laughably criminal. How long by federal ox cart?
As of my last knowledge update in January 2022, there were discussions and plans for high-speed rail projects in Florida, but no high-speed train was operational without subsidies at that time. Plans for high-speed rail development can evolve, and new projects may have been initiated or completed since then.
If there is a specific company and high-speed train service you are referring to, and it has started operations without subsidies, I recommend checking the latest news sources, the official website of the company, or other reputable news outlets for the most up-to-date information. News articles, press releases, or official statements from the company would provide details about the current status of the high-speed train service and its financial model.
Keep in mind that the status of infrastructure projects can change, and developments may have occurred after my last update in January 2022...
Well, yeah. Brightline is in operation now. Even Reason knows that.
https://www.gobrightline.com/train-stations/fl/orlando
And there were no subsidies.
(Sorry you internet connection has a year long lag time)
Must be using dial up.
At the library.
Dumb. Private profit is immoral!
“…California state government's high-speed rail project, which has turned into something so "foolish" that it's "almost a crime," according to Quentin L. Kopp, … who was crucial in rallying support for the original $10 billion bond measure to fund the project.”
What’s just as foolish is rallying support for the original bond measure, as if no one knew that such projects never turn out well.
So, something else Florida does better than California?
"have no shame in ?asking?" -- Paying taxes is not an ?asking? thing.
**IMPOSSIBRU!!11!!!**
First of all, the Florida train is NOT high-speed rail, which is a lot more expensive to build and operate. Second, there ARE subsidies to the Florida operation. Thanks to the faster-than-usual trains, this is the most dangerous rail line in America, killing more than 60 people so far. Brightline has refused to upgrade its grade crossings or protect its right of way unless someone else pays for it, and the feds have agreed to spend several tens of millions of dollars doing so.
Third, Brightline is using this train as a moving advertisement for subsidies to its planned Las Vegas line, and has already scored $3 billion in such subsidies from the feds. The Las Vegas line will not be able to pull in anywhere near as many passengers (it would compete against at least 64 airline flights a day from the LA area whose fares start at $24) and its costs will be much higher. I suspect the company will not be able to attract the $9 billion in private investments necessary to build it and so will require even more subsidies.
Reason needs to take a better look at the big picture before praising something for being something it is not.
In France, high speed train connecting most large cities in the country (and connecting to UK, Belgium, Germany, Netherlands too) runs flawlessly at 200 miles per hour.
AND ITS FULLY STATE OWNED.
Well off to your dreamland utopia then.... Chop, chop...
it's not a dreamland or a utopia.
Just a regular country where we enjoy high speed trains and don't bankrupt ourselves going to the hospital.
You also rely on the US taxpayers for your defense; moneydoes not grow on trees.
You're welcome.
France is one of the few countries to have both nuclear submarines (with nuclear weapons on board) and an aircraft carrier....as well as multiple military bases all over the world.
We are doing fine defense wise, thank you.
Next time, do your research before shooting from the hip.
What are you still doing here? Chop, chop....
Cute. Also…not very useful an answer , don’t you think?
Sure it is... You're here to tell us how great the USA would be if France were to conquer it but apparently are missing the excuse as to why you don't just move your *ss there.
I have never talked of « conquering » the USA.
All I am pointing out is the absurdity of your hysterical anti government stance.
There is absolutely no inherent reason for state owned services to be less efficient than private ones (to the contrary as a private structure is not interested in providing a better service but in maximizing its profits).
And for a whole range of what are called natural monopolies (from electricity production and transportation to railways), the public sector is a lot more efficient than the private sector.
The same applies for the health sector. A mostly state funded system will provide a lot better results for the general health of the whole population than a privatized system like the USA….simply because providing basic free health services for everyone is a lot more efficient.
There is every inherent reason state owned services is less efficient than private. By it's very 'tool' state-owned is 'gun' - force operated and therefore has no 'efficiency' checks and balances. It is not required to supply a service anyone is willing to trade fairly nor willingly for because it involves government - 'guns' of force. It's buy or die/rot in prison.
As-if there isn't a single government taken-over service that hasn't gotten less efficient than it's private counter-part. For F'Sakes doctors use to come to patients doors for the price of a pizza. UR sure dumb.
And oh but you did. You want the USA to throw away it's definition (US Constitution) and copy what France does. The USA wasn't founded on democratic [Na]tional So[zi]alism - [1] characterised by social ownership of the means of production, [2] as opposed to private ownership.
"simply because providing basic free health services for everyone"
...while you lobby for slavery.
Do you think there is a free-health services tree or what?
F'En stupid.
What planet R you on? Understand anything about Economic history, RE: Commies & destruction of entire nations. The things U state RE: Gov is more efficient, Health care, Electricity, Etc are the EXACT polar opposite of Reality. Gov. has zero incentive to provide top notch service, U have never seen how Gov. operates, they can care less about efficient use of money, in fact the opposite is true, if a public entity has a budget of 260 million & they don't spend it all by end of fiscal year, EG 240 Million= Its what they get following year, 240 Million. So a mad rush ensues , spending MORE Possibly <280 Million ??? so Budget will keep increasing. Gov. Entities are self feeding monsters, waste, laziness, corruption, on & on & on. Try seeing it first hand from inside, then maybe U will have a clue . However doubtful this may be.
In Europe highly subsidized high-speed rail runs well, but freight trains don't do so well. Trucks carry a much higher percentage of the freight in Europe - which means their freight operations have higher fuel consumption and emissions per ton-kilometer than in North America.
Billion, schmillion! Who actually comprehends how much money $66 billion is?! Whenever you mention that Amtrak Joe bestowed $66 billion on Amtrak, you should add that 66 billion dollars is equal to $200 from the pockets of every man, woman, and child in America! …or, almost $400 from every taxpaying household in America! Just for a little added perspective, it should be pointed out that the average US resident takes a one-way trip on an Amtrak trail just once every ten years. Amtrak is the mother of all money laundering schemes.
We take the regional or Acela east coast round trip monthly at least. Have a frequent traveler card and work on the train. Very comfortable and comes out better financially than driving. To each his own. Inter-city in Europe we also take the trains. Trains are not inherently bad. The 'trains bad cars good' knee jerk response isn't any more convincing than the converse.
Brightline is a very nice train and I have taken it from Palm Beach to Miami to go to the Frost science Museum which is right next-door to the Brightline station.
However bright line has metal detectors and will not allow you to bring your legal concealed carry firearm onto the train.
I go to Miami once a month for my second job and will not take break line because I won’t go anywhere without my firearm.
As others have mentioned, the price is four times more than taking your own car.
Yes you absolutely need your firearm to....err ....compensate for your tiny manhood?
Off to your dreamland utopia... STOP trying to conquer the USA.
Conquer the USA?
I should point out that there would be no USA if not for the French help..Lafayette and all…
They should have thought about that when they decided to 'help' instead of 'help' conquer. You're pretending two completely opposite sides of a coin are the exact same.
I remember when the first leg of the Brightline project opened, I saw the following: "Beyond slashing travel times, Renne says the construction of private mixed-use real estate developments at each station will bring in hundreds of millions of dollars in new revenue." So Brightline may be looking at that as the primary profit source.
https://www.npr.org/2017/12/07/569183423/florida-set-to-launch-countrys-first-private-high-speed-train-service