Everglades Restoration Complicated by Florida Agricultural Interests
Tariffs and sugar subsidies have propped up overvalued land needed to fix the environmental damage.

In his 1904 campaign for governor, Napoleon Bonaparte Broward vowed to turn the vast South Florida marsh into an "Empire of the Everglades." The ensuing efforts to tame the natural landscape set off a century of miraculous growth and development, but at great environmental cost. Restoration of the Everglades region is now among Florida's most vexing challenges—complicated by an array of tariffs and subsidies that prop up the Big Sugar industry in the region.
Prior to human settlement, the Everglades was nearly twice the size it is today. Water flowed freely from Central Florida through the winding Kissimmee River and into Lake Okeechobee. In the wet seasons, the lake's water levels rose until the liquid lapped over its southern edge into a vast "river of grass" before entering Florida Bay. The water flowed through expansive grassland prairies, marshes, and sloughs, giving rise to one of the most diverse ecosystems on the planet.
Shortly after Florida was granted statehood, Congress passed the Swamp Lands Act of 1850. This law turned over roughly 20 million acres of federally owned swampland to the state to make way for food crops and cattle farms. By the 1920s, a series of canals had been constructed and a modest levee built out of muck and sand to protect settlements south of Lake Okeechobee from flooding. But these flood protections were easily overcome by two hurricanes in the 1920s, which led to extensive flooding and a devastating loss of life. At President Herbert Hoover's instruction, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers constructed over 130 miles of a 30-foot-tall earthen dike around the lake. The Army Corps dug canals to the east and west, allowing excess water to be flushed to the coasts through the St. Lucie and Caloosahatchee rivers.
Further hurricane-induced flooding events in 1947 prompted Congress to authorize the Central and Southern Florida Project, a regional water management system that created a vast network of canals, levees, pumps, and culverts to direct the flow of water. The once-winding Kissimmee River was channelized, sending stormwater runoff from Central Florida hurtling into Lake Okeechobee. Water gushed out of the Herbert Hoover Dike through the east and west canals while just trickling to the south. North of the lake, cattle ranches and citrus groves appeared. To the south, the Central and Southern Florida Project designated nearly 700,000 acres of fertile land as the Everglades Agricultural Area (EAA), now mostly occupied by sugar cane farms.
By the late 1960s, the environmental damage caused by the project was evident. What remained of the natural Everglades was frequently parched, and nutrient pollution threw the region's ecosystems out of balance. The tide began to turn in 1970, when plans to build a sprawling new Miami jetport in the middle of Big Cypress Swamp roused a groundswell of conservationists into action. The struggle over the jetport coincided with a national environmental awakening in the early 1970s, prompting President Richard Nixon to quash the project and establish Big Cypress as the nation's first national preserve in 1974. The state bought up large swaths of land and began backfilling the channel that skewered the Kissimmee River. Today, the Everglades is the target of the largest restoration effort in the world, featuring a tangled web of interdependent projects orchestrated by federal, state, and local agencies.
The largest restoration program in the Everglades region is the Comprehensive Everglades Restoration Plan (CERP), which aims to improve the quantity, quality, timing, and distribution of freshwater throughout the ecosystem. Authorized by Congress in 2000, CERP consists of more than 60 projects. Its "crown jewel" is a 10,500-acre reservoir in the EAA capable of storing about 78 billion gallons of water. Once completed, the reservoir will store and treat water from Lake Okeechobee before sending it south to Everglades National Park. This will bring flows to water-starved portions of the park and reduce the need for harmful discharges of nutrient-laden water to the east and west coasts.
Yet there are concerns that the $4 billion reservoir isn't large enough to accomplish its goals. The original proposal for the project was a much larger 60,000-acre reservoir capable of storing and treating about 117 billion gallons of water. The project was downscaled due to difficulties in acquiring sufficient land. In 2008, then-Gov. Charlie Crist planned to buy almost 200,000 acres of land from U.S. Sugar at a cost of $1.75 billion. After the recession, the deal was reduced to just 72,800 acres for $536 million before collapsing altogether in 2015.
Environmental activists frequently blame "Big Sugar" for nutrient pollution in Lake Okeechobee. In reality, sugar cane production in the EAA contributes a relatively small portion of the lake's nutrient pollution, compared to the urban centers and cattle ranches to the north. The much greater consequence of large-scale sugar cane production in the EAA is that it stands in the way of constructing additional storage and treatment infrastructure to send additional water south.
Future efforts to acquire land in the EAA will likely continue to be stymied by powerful agricultural interests unless lawmakers challenge the quotas and subsidies that prop up the sugar industry and raise the value of EAA land. Federal policy restricts the supply of imported sugar and effectively sets a minimum price for sugar in the U.S. that is typically twice as high as the world market price. If sugar prices fall too low, the U.S. government is required to buy domestically produced sugar and resell it at a loss to ethanol producers. These backward policies cost consumers between $2.4 billion and $4 billion annually, hurting the public but benefiting large sugar corporations. Absent these handouts, it may not be so attractive to cultivate sugar cane in the EAA and the sugar cane producers may be less motivated to maintain a stranglehold on the land.
Human ingenuity broke the Everglades system, and that same ingenuity has devised an ambitious plan to fix it. Overcoming Florida's vested agricultural interests may prove a more daunting task.
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Just swamped with special interest emails, be back later.
Don't muddy the waters.
Knee deep in alligators at the moment.
You can bank on it.
Sugar price supports are so effective that now slightly more sucrose for the domestic market comes from beets than from cane.
Bears in trunks, beets, Battlestar Galactica. Dwight Schrute pounces.
MICHAEL!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaaANll8h18
What kind of trunk bear is best?
There is definitely more land suitable for beet production than for sugar cane production in the US. However, beet producers are also struggling, largely because smaller scale refiners are going out of business and shipping beets to larger refiners is costly (beets). We just lost the refinery in Sidney, MT last year, so all the beet growers had acres of irrigated land for beet growing but no longer had a market for the beets. So we're seeing a lot more corn and soybeans (corn was always a rotational crop with beets, along with barley). The growth of corn in the area though is likely to hurt our barley production because corn is a host for fungal diseases that impact small grains and cause high DON levels that make the barley unsuitable for beer production or human consumption. Not calling for subsidies just providing some context. Farmers generally will adjust crops as conditions change. Several beet growers have also began growing irrigated hay crops. They can get three cuttings of alfalfa or grass when dry land guys are happy with one (but dry land guys can charge more because dry land hays tend to be more nutritious, protein being the most expensive nutrient and dry land usually has higher protein content, stressing plants to a degree actually increases protein).
OT, except for beets:
Many years ago I visited an Austrian friend at his parents' house in the Alps. His father was a WWII POW interned on a beet farm in Utah. He described it as one of the best years of his life.
Northern Utah, southern Idaho is some of the best beet producing lands in the world. The volcanic soil and environmental conditions are very conducive to beet production. But beet production also is water intensive so generally requires extensive irrigation. So once that land goes out of beet production, or during rotational years (due to disease risk, beets should only be planted every three or four years and shouldn't be rotated with other root crops like potatoes) you now have hundreds of thousands (if not more) money invested in an irrigation system that you have to figure what to use it for. Not to mention the special planting and harvesting equipment needed for beets. Harvesting beets always seemed to me to be a lot of hassle. It is very temperature sensitive, if it's to hot you can't harvest and if it's to cold you can't harvest and the refineries determine when you can harvest. If they have to many beets in the beet pile you have to wait, if the weather is not correct to properly pile it (to hot or to cold) you have to wait until they call you and tell you you can harvest and deliver. Because of their high water content beets don't store well long term like grains.
When you harvest grains you can basically just keep grinding away until it's finished, the biggest issue is storage space. And then you can choose when to sell. Generally selling at around harvest time is going to cost you, because prices are usually depressed (more supply, but a big factor is farmers selling last years grain that they hadn't sold to make room in their silos for this years).
But because we're a beef producing area, quantity tends to be more desirable than quality. The nutrient needs of pregnant beef cows really isn't that high except just before calving and through peak lactation. That's why we calve in mid to late spring, so that they're lactating when forages are most nutritious. It's also why wild animals like deer and elk birth in May around here. It is pretty rare to have ranchers around here still calving in February or March. April 15th tends to be most guys target dates, with quite a few moving to May or even June calving. Yeah calves are smaller come fall sales, but you save more in feed costs, and small calves generally get better prices, so economically it actually is better to calve in May or June.
They are discussing sugar beets, not beef.
I can think of great uses for barley, I will need some wheet, rye, and yeast first though
And the price supports make sugar cost so much, most (soda) pop uses high fructose corn syrup instead of the good stuff.
I can't taste the difference. Maple sugar, now that's really different — although I guess if you had a (stupid) mind to, you could refine that away and just get expensive sucrose.
When it comes to beets, though, I like eating the red ones; it's close between them and carrots for my favorite vegetable.
There are folks here in Maine that make maple sugar. Also, a few use it as the substitute sweetener. Not uncommon in baked beans. It is expensive, but not so much if you tap your own trees and boil off the water yourself.
I've been wondering why shrike hasn't brought up the white male in Texas who went on a shooting rampage. Turns out he was backed out after violent assaults on his parent by Soros backed bail group. Awkward.
https://thefederalist.com/2023/12/07/soros-nonprofit-bailed-out-violent-criminal-charged-in-texas-shooting-spree/
How embarrassing for Shrike if he were capable of feeling embarrassed.
Seems he is just a common street thug.
Success. 131% of eligible D C. Voters are finally registered to vote.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/dirty-voter-rolls-slammed-131-of-eligible-dc-voters-registered
I think we'll see a lot of incredible numbers the next time around too. Here's to Joe Biden, the first president to break the 500 million votes mark.
That's a super-mandate right there.
PoPuLaR vOtE!
Why even California is trying to kick trump off the ballot so idiots can scream that. Even got those cries on this site.
https://twitter.com/RadicalCath/status/1733275849183387717?t=VQXhBZhXB60VQR4QljogjQ&s=19
Imagine the nation-wide riots which would have ensued - the marches, the denunciations, the public humiliation rituals, etc. - had she been able to pull this off without being filmed and caught.
"JUST IN: A woman has been charged after trying to burn down Martin Luther King Jr.'s birth home in Atlanta.
26-year-old Laneisha Shantrice Henderson was arrested and charged.
Thankfully, two tourists from Utah noticed Henderson trying to burn down the home and jumped into action to stop her.
"Tonight, an unfortunate incident occurred at the birth home of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. as an individual attempted to set fire to this historic property," the King center said.
"Fortunately, the attempt was unsuccessful, thanks to the brave intervention of good Samaritans and the quick response of law enforcement. We thank the Atlanta Police Department, Atlanta Fire Department, the National Parks Service, and Mayor Andre Dickens for leading the efforts to ensure the safety of our cherished national landmark and its adjacent neighbors. Our prayers are with the individual who allegedly committed this criminal act.""
A mostly peaceful tourist.
This was likely an op intended to be cast as a white supremacist hate crime that the black female navy vet tasked with carrying it out simply fucked up
Yes, and "pray for her".
"I'll just say a little prayer against you."
Far right Christian nationalists who promote color blind racism shouldn't be allowed child hood homes to become tourist traps.
Could the MLK center ever say "Two white people did the right thing by defying a black person" without having an institutional aneurism?
Dipshit Dave Weigel's dream gay butt sex partner is really starting to get paranoid now that he has been indicated for federal tax evasion!
https://drudgereport.com/
It will be epic if he ends up ratting out the old man.
Trial will be dragged out until the day after the election and he will get pardoned. Why it was important to delay this for years despite no new evidence in the indictment.
Yo really think Trump will pardon him?
Joe has 3 months in office even if he loses.
Shouldn’t this be reported on the Fudge Report?
OK, why is the pristine, unaltered state of nature the preferred ideal?
Sure, I like wild lands and choose to live in a scenic, less-populated and developed area. But I have no problem with the recognition that by being here I have "defiled" the virgin landscape and ecosystems.
For fun, I challenge the nature-lovers to start their quest for restoration in their own home area. I bet that Manhattan Island was quite scenic in the 1500s (or do we have to go back to 15,000 years ago).
That’s right. We need to tear out all the sidewalks in Central Park. BaCk To NaTuRe!
"or do we have to go back to 15,000 years ago"
22,000 years ago to the last glacial maximum. Strip it down to the bedrock and then pile a mile of ice on top. Environment restored.
CliMaTe cHaNge!
I'm just glad that's not the point when part of humanity started freaking out about climate change.
Or hell, maybe they did. Admittedly, the people in Doggerland were significantly affected...
And Beringia.
I have had similar thoughts. On the other hand, draining wetlands creates a whole host of other issues, that generally costs a lot to address, ergo, from a cost reduction view, improving, protecting and rehabilitating wetlands is generally as good as use, likely better, than other money the government spends on 'environmental' projects. Additionally, great places to hunt and fish once restored.
There is really only one reason why wetlands are considered to be important, and that’s because the Constitution gives the federal government the power to control navigable waters. By redefining that to include any water that might run into navigable waters, it effectively gives the feds the power to control any dirt that gets wet. And when they have to power to control something, they're going to say it's really important when really they just want power.
We used to call it "taming the wilderness" or "making the land productive."
Biden crime family cover up continues.
https://thefederalist.com/2023/12/08/weiss-charges-hunter-biden-with-three-tax-felonies-but-ignores-foreign-influence-peddling-to-protect-joe/
https://thefederalist.com/2023/12/08/theres-only-one-explanation-for-hunter-bidens-simple-indictment-taking-so-long-2020-election-interference/
Local story. Hunter ranting on the Moby podcast made me think of sarc.
Both always the victim.
Both not responsible for their actions.
Both use sobriety to attack their enemies and excuse their past (if you believe they are sober)
Both deny things they are on record as doing or saying.
Get a life.
A Democrat.
Constant denial.
Blames conservatives for everything.
Gets angry when you attack Joe.
FUCK JOE BIDEN
Glad I don't pay rent for all that time I spend in your head.
The check would bounce.
"Sarcasmic! Pay your rent!"
"Sarcasmic's not here man..."
I dont accept section 8 vouchers.
What about returnables?
False sense of grandeur.
Thinks they are the smartest person in the room when they clearly aren’t.
Bad cooks (although one is meth).
Constantly mocked by everyone that knows them.
Both have stayed in half million dollar Airbus.
Supports police abuses on their enemies but not themselves.
My daughter was telling me about this thirteen year old boy in her class who is a total antagonistic piece of shit. Made me think of you.
Speaking of…
Alienated kids.
Wives leaving them.
Friendly with pedophiles.
sarcasmic 13 mins ago
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I had CPS called on me because I said sometimes dragged my kid’s feet off the bed to get her to get up. CPS said it was reported that I was “Laying hands on my child in a concerning way.”
None of the parents I know have had CPS called on them. Weird.
It's standard procedure these days in divorce negotiations.
Joe Biden (D) lays hands on children in inappropriate ways. Numerous videos have documented this.
Yeah, they're going after him for doing drugs and owning guns and dodging taxes, none of which should be illegal, and ignoring the family corruption that reaches to the highest level of the government.
https://twitter.com/_kruptos/status/1733501508572815750?t=WefYPS2nSBcwxXfhXWzdsA&s=19
This is what happens when you ship your whole industrial base overseas: you need your Asian proxies to build weapons for your Central European proxies to use in a war.
The GAE is quickly becoming an abstraction, like a software licensing deal. We are the “middle men” the “ideas guys.” An empire of invest bankers and mergers and acquisitions lawyers, who happen to have a few aircraft carriers they can display for show.
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LET'S OUTSOURCE EVERYTHING!
Except the profits.
https://twitter.com/DisgracedProp/status/1733515406923759860?t=9F-tGNM_gvUNRsLi_dw8wA&s=19
Nobody is talking about the fact that yesterday on the front page of the Wall Street Journal the full facts behind Sam Altman’s firing were revealed, and revealed to be perhaps the most paradigmatic longhouse situation of all time.
Essentially the entire affair boiled down to a feud between Sam and board member Helen Toner, an unqualified Australian longhouse harridan only 31 years old with some fancy BS DC think tank strategy director title. The feud arose from the fact that Helen was going around criticizing the speed at which OpenAI was moving, particularly in relation to grant-bait diversity operations like Anthropic, and saying that her mission as a board member was not in fact OpenAI’s success but the success of humanity at large.
Sam, understandably, started working to get her out, and she responded by organizing the other women and simps on the board to oust Sam behind his back (as always happens in longhouse environments).
During this process, when asked whether the ouster of Sam could destroy the company, and thus violate both the mission of OpenAi and her fiduciary duty, she responded (literally) that the destruction of OpenAi would in fact be in line with the mission of OpenAi, because it could be seen as more beneficial to humanity in the long run. Utter, total insanity.
The crazy part is that SHE SUCCEEDED. This all worked, and Sam was fired. The only reason he made it back is because his core team of employees revolted and said they wouldn’t work if he was fired. Without that, Helen Toner would be happily ruling over the ashes of OpenAI today. Instead, Sam took back control and ousted the board members that organized against him—meaning that today OpenAi has no female board members (which btw I believe is a violation of California law).
Remember, longhouse harridans are eating our institutions every single day, and they happily do it with the belief that in destroying something beautiful they are actually in the long run “helping humanity.” Usually there’s no revolt to stop them.
This is why you can’t have chicks in power.
Repeal the 19th!
"saying that her mission as a board member was not in fact OpenAI’s success but the success of humanity at large"
Ah, the Sam Bankman-Fried defense.
Think first of the stakeholders.
And by stakeholders they mean everyone not an actual owner.
Exactly. Stakeholders, as opposed to shareholders (the people who put you on the board.)
There's a huge difference between a for-profit business being run as a fraud in order to pump money into good causes, and a board of a nonprofit that is by its founding charter supposed to put the good of humanity over profit deciding to rein in its for-profit branch because it thinks such an action is for the good of humanity.
A common example of how the long March has become the short March. Government rules requiring boards for non profits let activists take over. Same thing as Project Veritas.
dEmoCrAcy!
OpenAI was founded as a charity to protect humanity from AI gone bad. If it's putting profits above the mission, that's the perversion from its original goals.
California actually made it a state law for corporate boards to be “diverse,” until the law was found unconstitutional:
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/california-board-diversity-law-violates-federal-constitution
A California law mandating racial, ethnic, and sexual orientation diversity in corporate boards is unconstitutional, a federal district court said.
The Alliance for Fair Board Recruitment alleged that Assembly Bill 979—which requires boards of public companies headquartered in California to include at least one to three members of underrepresented groups or face a fine—violates the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment and 42 U.S.C. § 1981. The group sued in the US District Court for the Eastern District of California, which granted its motion for summary judgment Tuesday.
Senior Judge John A. Mendez found that the California law constituted on its face an impermissible racial quota, despite California Secretary of State Shirley Weber’s argument that the law only sets a “flexible floor” for diversity.
California asked that the part of the law found unconstitutional be severed, so that it would still apply to LGBTQ groups, but the court found that the bill wouldn’t be coherent as severed.
But what if I as a stockholder want to only vote for directors who are white middle-aged or older American males with actual experience in the business? I'm pretty sure that needs to become a criminal offense.
"Longhouse"?
No, her position is not even remotely insanity.
OpenAI was deliberately and specifically founded as a nonprofit organization with the mission of making sure that AI was safe for humanity. If an OpenAI board member favors the success of its for-profit subsidiary over the safety mission, they're literally not doing their job. Keeping the AI developers on a leash was the whole reason OpenAI was structured with the nonprofit board having a kill switch to begin with.
The successful rebellion, putting the interests of the subsidiary's fiscal success above the judgment of the board, makes OpenAI a fraud on the original donors to the nonprofit.
Ooooh, software written by kids gonna kill us all!
This is your hero:
"Toner was born in 1992 in Melbourne, Australia. She graduated from the University of Melbourne in 2014 and participated in UN Youth, an organization that provides student engagement in international diplomacy simulations.[2][3] During her time at the university, she was recognized by her peers for her academic and extracurricular activities.[2]
Toner's career includes involvement with the effective altruism movement, which focuses on using resources efficiently for charitable impact and ethical development in artificial intelligence.[2][4] After graduating, she worked with GiveWell and Open Philanthropy, an initiative co-founded by Dustin Moskovitz.[2]
Toner also worked in China studying the AI industry.[2] She later worked as a research affiliate at the University of Oxford's centre for the governance of AI, before becoming Georgetown's Center for Security and Emerging Technology's director of strategy and foundational research grants.[2][5] She has published a couple of articles in Foreign Affairs."
Eat a dick.
So I may have missed an article or 2, but what's with the long house references?
https://twitter.com/memeticsisyphus/status/1733495957055062334?t=s5wRbC5uq3ZP-9Z5njawPA&s=19
The low iq angry grievance army dei has built must be terribly confused. They spent decades gaining power by blaming white guys for all the worlds problems, but when they blamed the white guy with a funny hat they’re dragged before congress and have their funding pulled.
Oh let me get this straight. So plants are now polluting the environment????
F'En clowns.
Yup. And every single molecule of C that the noble plants suck up gets dumped back into the environment when they die. Scam.
I had to look that one up. Plant sugars is where the CO2 goes.
The plants use the C from CO2 in almost every compound they produce, including for leaves, stems, trunks, roots, etc. And all those things decompose, which oxidizes the carbon compounds and releases CO2.
Also, almost all plants respire, especially when the sun does not shine, and "exhale" CO2. Don't tell the climate freaks.
A large percentage returns to the air on decomposition, but not all of it. Some gets buried or ends up in places like peat bogs etc.
Sugar cane doesn't like to grow in Florida. Because of that farmers need to modify the environment to grow the stuff. It's not plants that are polluting the environment, it's farmers who couldn't afford to competitively grow that crop without subsidies and protective tariffs. And if there's one thing I've learned from the comments, it's that protective tariffs are good and wonderful, and that anyone who disagrees is a leftist. That means Reason is leftist. But we already knew that, right?
Now subsidies and tariffs are polluting the environment???
F’En clowns.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1733529033575465381?t=9cD5rX152DANqWO_7sbQ2A&s=19
Reinstate Alex Jones on this platform?
Vox Populi, Vox Dei.
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https://twitter.com/JenGriffinFNC/status/1733243056868987355?t=tq2XVQiQmG4CSE0L2prTzA&s=19
10th attack on US forces at 15:15 pm EST Bashar Air Base NE Iraq. US official: "Definitely an escalation."
Al Asad Air Base, Iraq – 2
Mission Support Site Euphrates, Syria – 1
US Embassy Baghdad – 1
Rumalyn Landing Zone, Syria – 2
Patrol Base Shaddadi, Syria – 1
Erbil, Iraq – 2
Which YouTube video started it?
Tucker on X.
Quick! Arrest him now before he hosts another interview.
Actually it's Rebecca blacks Friday video
. With that knowledge you can understand the attacks
https://twitter.com/Alt_Azn/status/1733529235678183806?t=AlZli9mAro6-FN-RzRDNEw&s=19
The same people screaming Trump is going to be a dictator made me show medical records to get a slice of pizza in Los Angeles.
All dictator politics is local?
The whole state, except Space Mountain, is going to be underwater in 7 years anyway, according to AOC.
I'm consistently amazed at how bad "scientists" are at science.
As long as the grant money keeps flowing in, they are succeeding.
If their predictions prove wrong, they can get another grant to study how much worse it's going to get 10 years from now.
More climate denialism in Europe
French Farmers Dump Manure on Government Buildings to Protest Climate Hysteria
https://modernity.news/2023/12/08/french-farmers-dump-manure-on-government-buildings-to-protest-climate-hysteria/
Of course more feces on the street would go unnoticed in San Francisco.
The way you can tell the difference between establishment and proletariat protesters, is establishment protesters like BLM or Just Stop Oil target target ordinary people, while grassroots prole movements like the Gilets jaunes and Canadian truckers target government.
So proles are seditious Nazis?
The plebs are traitors to the aristocracy's vision and goals.
Rand Paul versus the MIC.
https://news.antiwar.com/2023/12/07/senate-votes-down-resolution-to-withdraw-troops-from-syria/
The bill failed in a vote of 13-84 and received support from seven Democrats, five Republicans, and one Independent, Sen. Bernie Sanders (VT). The resolution was introduced by Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), who argued the US occupation of eastern Syria risks a major regional war.
“Keeping 900 US troops in Syria does nothing to advance American security. Rather, our intervention puts those servicemembers at grave risk by providing an enticing target for Iranian-backed militias,” Paul said.
“Our continued presence risks the United States getting dragged into yet another regional war in the Middle East without debate or a vote by the people’s representatives in Congress. Congress must cease abdicating its constitutional war powers to the executive branch,” he added.
Kudos to Paul and those that voted for it. Fuck the rest of the cabal that wants to keep occupying a slice of Syria.
They are super Syria about it.
When ignorant folks want to know more, I say: damn, ask us.
I’m gonna steel that one.
Uniparty sucks all around. But definitely vote for Nikki.
Nikki sticks? I'm in, he could get us out of that same ol situation. And when it comes to men asking if they can compete in chick sports, his responce would be girls girls girls. The media would not know what to do with him, as he is a bass player and the first instinct of any sound editor is to compleatly mix out the bass player
Well Rand Paul is libertarian adjacent but he's not super dreamy like Polis and Amash. He is an icky Republican after all. The only Republican acceptable to libertarians is Niki Haley because... (googles Haley policy positions). Hmm. Turns out she's a full blown neocon. On the other hand she'd be a strategic bulwark against scary populists and Christian Nationalists. If they actually exist. So, however reluctantly, libertarians will support the candidate that falls within normal parameters. Even if she can't find Ukraine on a map.
Its a small country next to a bigger country. She could be VP.
Ukraine is large, but not like Russia. It is in the process of experiencing shrinkflation.
They are a primary exporter of compost. Now their compost is just a bit creepier.
The compost of Kiev
He's icky because he's pro-life.
Which party gets to claim the war boner for Syria, and which party gets to suck it?
One big circle jerk.
It's basically a lemon party.
Uniparty claims the war
America first says we want none of this.
If your thinking in r VS d terms you need to check your framing
My framing looks at US politics like pro wrestling. I just want to know which character gets to play war hawk this time.
The ultimate warrior
Yeah, go ahead and let ISIS be a thing again! If it's one thing we've learned, Islamic terrorism will stay in the middle east if we just ignore it!
And screw all the non-Muslims in the world. They can just move to the US if another genocide happens, like with the Yezidis. Of course, we have to let all the Muslims in too, gotta be fair. But they certainly won't bring their Islamist views with them! We definitely won't see marching calling for the genocide of Jews in all the major cities, and among elected officials from those disticts in Congress!
I thought the White House denied that we have troops in Syria
This is the Higgins memo written in 2019. I read it for the first time today and, aside from references to Trump as the sitting president, it could have been written yesterday.
https://www.libertynation.com/the-higgins-memo-read-in-full/
I'm not going to copy/paste quotes because you really gotta read the whole thing.
I will read it but if it's not 80 pages about how to get Eliza to pronounce a hard r, I will be disappointed
"Libertarians for the EPA and federal wetland protection!"
I thought I was the only one that noticed.
I'm shocked there is not yet an article about how the Hunter Biden tax evasion highlights that tax is theft, so he must be set free (like the one about his gun charges)
Biden making deals with Ukraine to stop the prosecution of his son's company is freedom of association.
It's not a coincidence that many food products that contain sugar, like Kool-Aid and Oreos, are now made in Mexico.
This is not the first time I have seen a cry about the environment here. Someone gets a lot of money for this. I don’t understand why petitions are needed to protect the environment when nothing has been done to support ordinary people affected by the flood. Here is a simple example where it will be clear how much you need to spend for installing basement windows - https://thwindowsdoors.com/the-basics-of-how-to-install-replacement-vinyl-basement-windows/ This will be a must for those who had old houses with wooden windows. Does anyone subsidize such mandatory expenses? I don't see it yet(