Poised To Lose Battle Over Gun Ads, City Bans All Advertising But Its Own
Flagstaff keeps digging a hole over commercial free speech.

Spoiled brats upset at losing a game sometimes take their ball and go home so nobody can play, but can petulant politicians do the same with advertising venues? That's the question as city officials in Flagstaff, Arizona, end advertising at the local airport rather than allow a firearms-related business to advertise its services to tourists. Well, they're discontinuing advertising for everybody except a city agency that promotes select businesses. That's unlikely to resolve the dispute.
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Advertising That Violates a Policy To Be Named Later
Earlier this month I covered the case of Rob Wilson, who wanted to continue advertising his Timberline Firearms & Training to people visiting the high-desert community. "Officials rejected the ad, telling Wilson that its representation of shooting sports violated the city's ban on displaying 'violence or anti-social behavior' and its new advertising policy against depicting guns," I wrote.
That policy hadn't even been approved yet. "The City's Facility Advertising Policy remains in draft form," Flagstaff Public Affairs Director Sarah Langley told me via email. It was scheduled for consideration at the November 14 council meeting. Langley added that part of the city's objection is that Timberline's new advertisement is a video, unlike the rotating still images used in past ads. Arizona's Goldwater Institute, which represents Wilson, denies any such change and shared with me a video identical to the current one and date-stamped August 13, 2019.
Not that still vs. moving images should make a difference.
It quickly became clear that Flagstaff's city government didn't want Wilson's business, or gun-related businesses in general, advertising at its facilities and was scrambling to come up with a justification. But government agencies are limited in their ability to pick who can and can't speak on public property.
"By denying Mr. Wilson's request to advertise based on an unreasonable and pretextual application of the advertising policy, the City has violated Mr. Wilson's constitutional rights to freedom of speech and due process of law," John Thorpe, staff attorney for the Goldwater Institute's Scharf-Norton Center for Constitutional Litigation, informed Flagstaff officials in an October 24 letter. "Moreover, the new policy currently under consideration is unconstitutional, both as applied to Mr. Wilson (as it expressly targets his expression) and on its face (as it bans broad, poorly-defined categories of speech and discriminates based on content and viewpoint)."
Commercial Speech Enjoys First Amendment Protection
Flagstaff was on shaky ground. While commercial speech enjoys somewhat lesser protection than other forms of expression, it is still covered by the First Amendment. Under the Central Hudson test, the U.S. Supreme Court established that if the speech concerns lawful activity and is not misleading, to be allowed to regulate the speech the government must have a substantial interest, the regulation must materially advance the government's substantial interest, and the regulation must be narrowly tailored.
Importantly, as Thorpe pointed out to Flagstaff, Goldwater was involved in a similar case a decade ago when Phoenix refused Alan Korwin permission to advertise his firearms training effort at city bus shelters. An Arizona court ruled in Korwin's favor on First Amendment grounds.
Flagstaff officials apparently agreed they had little hope.
"Advertising at the airport is not something we depend on for our revenue stream, really, and I just get a little concerned about people's interpretation of what may be offensive," commented city council member Lori Matthews during the November 14 meeting after a presentation by a deputy city attorney about what the city might or might not be able to regulate, advertising-wise. "So, I'm kind of swaying to just opt out of any advertising at the airport."
"Litigation on this could be very costly," warned City Manager Greg Clifton, who agreed that advertising should be stopped at the airport as well as at city recreational facilities. "And we'll quickly exceed any benefit that we realize through the revenues that we're talking about."
So, the city council decided that nobody will get to advertise. Well, nobody except for the city's tax-funded Discover Flagstaff promotion program. That may be a problem.
A Solution That Creates More Problems
"We're stewards of the bed, board, and beverage tax," Economic Vitality Director Heidi Hansen reminded the council about Discovery Flagstaff. "It is our job in our advertising to talk about those attractions, hotels, restaurants, and campgrounds that actually pay that 2 percent…. So, I just want to make it clear that if someone were to come to the airport, they might see actual businesses on our advertising."
"That raises the question: if the city is advertising businesses through Discover Flagstaff, does it become a problem that the city does not allow other owners to independently advertise their own businesses?" Adrian Skabelund noted in Arizona Daily Sun coverage.
Well, yes, it does raise a big question. By definition, Discover Flagstaff advertising is government-approved messaging promoting select businesses in the city. Instead of battling Rob Wilson and Timberline Firearms & Training in court, Flagstaff may find itself defending against multiple lawsuits over favoritism shown to businesses given a boost by the program.
"What's essentially happening here is the city is tying itself in knots to suppress viewpoints it doesn't like," Goldwater's Joe Setyon told me by email. "There's a better way: the city should simply allow Rob to run his harmless ad, as he has already done thousands of times, with no complaints."
Flagstaff officials could set aside their pearl-clutching and let all sorts of businesses, organizations, and individuals promote their goods and services to visitors within the broad limits protected under the Constitution. Those visitors could pay attention to the advertisements or ignore them as they please, as Americans do every day all across the country. That would be a healthy step towards promoting both good will and a little more prosperity for the city and its residents.
"I just want to say that if the council gives the direction I think they just gave, that we want to make sure we do that in a way that complies with the law," Deputy City Attorney Kevin Fincel advised Flagstaff city council members after declining to sign off on the new policy. "And so I'll just leave it at that."
It's not at all clear that Flagstaff is complying with the law when it comes to respecting the free speech rights of advertisers at city-owned venues. It's definitely not certain that the city is sparing itself from litigation and resulting costs by barring private parties from advertising at the airport and reserving that privilege to businesses promoted by a city agency.
What is clear is that a government body once again made what should be a relatively simple case more difficult by meddling and restricting. Flagstaff officials tried to take their ball and go home, but free speech rights were never theirs to take away.
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Citizens should flag staff involved with this and remove them from employment.
Run the up the flagstaff and see how long they keep twitching.
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high-desert community.
Flagstaff is not in the fucking desert. It is located in the lower Colorado plateau. Its annual rainfall is 24 inches of rain.
Just because it is in Arizona does not mean it is the desert. If you travel about 15 miles outside of flagstaff then you again run into more arid conditions, but that is not flagstaff.
Generally accepted definition of desert is less than 10 inches annually. Flagstaff is just slightly below the average continental rainfall of about 28 inches.
Sorry, pet peeve of mine.
Don’t you mean Flagstaff, New Mexico? :p
Its airport is also far too small to feature moving walkways; it doesn't have any gates with jetways or anything like that. You get on and off the plane from a mobile stair on the tarmac.
I think this mostly clarifies my question but, to be clear, (and forgive this Chicagoan for his stupidity and not really to put you in the hot seat but) the City does in fact own the airport, right?
We had a similar, less litigious kerfuffle about a few (well, the two) local billboards in our Village a while ago and the retardation ended on the fact that whether forcing the removal of ads by Village Hall was a 1A violation or not, even though the billboards were within Village borders, they sat on easements owned/controlled by the State, not The Village.
I don't know who owns it - I suspect they do - but I just know from my one experience that it's a very small airport. You walk into a general 'lounge' area that's directly attached and barely separated from the service counter, car rental, and baggage claim area by a single TSA checkpoint.
Used to think the Reason staff were just lazy, but now I'm sure the use of irrelevant photos is a deliberate, long-running inside joke.
I've never been to an airport like that. It must make you feel like you're in a b&w movie.
Yeah, I was surprised at the size of the pines around Flagstaff, even saw some sawmill activity.
Don’t know why reporters feel the need to throw in local-color stuff when writing about cities they’ve never been to. Like the guy writing about the border crisis who referred to the "dusty streets of McAllen". It's an irrigated river delta, the main weather complaint is the humidity, and on rural roads the usual problem is mud, not dust.
I think Tucci lives there now. Which makes it worse.
To add to your point, here is a link to an actual image of Flagstaff Pulliam Airport:
https://foursquare.com/v/flagstaff-pulliam-airport-flg/4baa0e1df964a52013473ae3?openPhotoId=5ce85b3b0e3239002b0b3c88
Sure doesn't look like desert to me.
Seriously, what is it about guns that make people act this way? I guess hoplophobia is real.
It's not hoplophobia. It's misanthropy. Hoplophobia is the excuse (this 'two weeks' anyway).
Sure, it is real, to an extent. I personally know someone who is a die-hard Republican Trump voter but who is anti-gun because of a gun violence tragedy in her past.
Show me someone who is afraid of guns and I'll show you someone who thinks AR stands for Automatic Rifle, who thinks assault weapons are extra deadly, and thinks .223 is a large caliber.
In other words, ignorance begets fear.
Yes, exactly!!! Fear borne out of ignorance is no good basis for rules or legislation. This is no different than fear of gays, other races or teaching sex education in schools.
TBF, teaching sex ed in schools is not what seems to be driving the narrative. It is teaching sex ed, gender identity, gay sex to children in elementary school. Age appropriateness is a fair topic for debate (i.e. few would disagree with the contention that Hustler magazine should not be in an elementary school library).
The hags on the View have more than once talked about an AR-15 blowing up a deer..."If You Shoot A Deer, You Can't Eat It Because You Demolish The Animal"...which is really funny because in many states a .223 is not legal for deer hunting because it's not powerful enough to make a clean kill.
Well .223 does have three digits, .44 only has two. Just remember our current educational system.
My working theory for years now is that too many people consider self-defense to be a malum in se crime rather than a basic human right. Possessing, or worse, carrying a firearm thus shows that you are a dangerous deranged criminal who believes the opposite. Especially if the reason you have guns isn't for the sake of committing some lesser crime like armed robbery or murder.
I have seen many people equate self defense with vigilante justice.
Hmm... maybe how much it sucked Rittenhouse was found not guilty. Like that? Lol.
Exactly!
There is a small, albeit very vocal, portion of the anti-gun cult that expects boys and men to just drope their drawers and bend over, and girls and women to just lie back and enjoy it.
A few years ago I had to pull a weapon when a guy knocked down a co-worker as we were going to the parking lot. He took her purse and computer bag, then he started kicking her. The police were called, not because he was kicking her, but, because I had a gun.
the city's ban on displaying 'violence or anti-social behavior'
So Jesse is no longer legally allowed in the city limits of Flagstaff. Pity.
Ok, sarc.
JesseAz's white knight to the rescue!
*swoon*
I’m glad you and Jeff fell in love by your hatred of me.
Irony you rush to Jeff’s rescue.
Since we know jeff won't. Please post an example of my violent behavior.
And just because someone thinks you're retarded doesn't mean they are anti social. O don't have to beg on message boards to get someone to go to a concert with me. I didn't have my entire family leave me. Lol.
Look at the mean, little man.
Ideas!
And his idiot sidekick.
So are you admitting you dont know what anti social means? Because it doesn't mean being mean to an individual.
Hilarious victim signal after joining jeff in a pathetic attack by the way.
Anti-socialist.
Emphasis on "little."
Fucking democrats and your weird dick fixations.
Members of that club like to whip out their small talk.
What violent behavior. It is your boy sarc who keeps threatening to beat people up.
You advocate shooting trespassers.
Please post an example of me advocating violence.
As far as anti social, I guess your pedophilia counts as social.
Nardz calls for the murder of anyone who doesn't vote for Republicans and for Trump, and of all the people in the comments you treat him with the most respect.
The only possible conclusion is that you also want anyone who votes differently than you to be murdered.
And again youre lying t o protect your best friend jeff. The respect you see, as stated the other day, was him actually defending his views and not being a victim. Hilarious.
Also, quite a retarded conclusion. Again. You've advocated death and assaults in these comments. I have examples. Don't be a hypocrite now.
jeff was mean to you so you say he's playing the victim. As always you accuse other of doing what you are doing while you are doing it. Poor baby.
All you do is recycle things people have said about you.
Get some original material.
Jesse, by my estimation, you spend all day every day online either here or in the fever swamps of right-wing internet. You have no life and you are a sad little man. You have no ability to think critically beyond the right-wing arguments that have been fed to you; when you are confronted with objections to your arguments, you just dish out insults and fallacies, and then just repeat the same arguments later on. For all the time you spend online reading things, you'd think you would have picked up a clue by now.
You forgot the mic drop.
He dipped it in nacho cheese.
What's funny is that these city burrocrats somehow think anyone pays attention to their ads. I guess when you like playing pretend-businessman and have a rinky dink little advertising agency all your own, you gots to pretend it's useful.
If the city council-critters can claim that they don't depend on the airport ad revenues, then I think it would be fair for the local citizens to claim that they are being over-taxed to pay for a sub-optimal airport operation.
It is amazing to me how shortsighted elected officials are when trying to save people from being offended. You don’t like guns? Don’t patronize the guy’s business. If you like shooters sports, patronize the guy’s business. There are lots of businesses I find offensive and others I support and in both instances, I vote with my wallet. Let others do the same. Stop with the nanny state nonsense; we’re all adults here.
Want to get re-elected? Pander to perceived offenses and irrational fears.
Well, it's a college town, so you have an abnormally progressive / liberal bent to the area, politically, compared to the surrounds.
Exactly, don't like the Flagstaff airport policies, move to Sun City.
And the time machine door opened, and out stepped Jeff Mason...
Poised To Lose Battle Over Gun Ads, City Bans All Advertising But Its Own
Um, that's what happens when you 'accept messages' from the public, but then decide you don't like certain messages. If you're the government, you either have to paint BLACK LIVES MATTER and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN down fifth Avenue in NYC and give it 'round the clock police protection, or you can print neither.
How did banning gun ads suppress gang violence in Flagstaff?
Proof positive that you should never try to live anywhere near a college campus, nor allow a college to be built near your town. Arizona is a RED state, but if your town is mainly a college town(like Flagstaff), then you're going to get shafted and your constitution is going to get burned and thrown out the window.
The result of decades of people moving to Flagstaff without leaving California and New York behind them.
Very well written and "reasoned" out (hey, it's my first ever comment here, so yeah, I DID have to go there ????????). I'd just point out that Liberals don't let little things like the Constitution and SCOTUS rulings get in the way of their Progressive Agenda. Biden and the COVID rent hiatus is just one case in point. Since they aim to disarm the populous [read: Proletariat], they certainly don't want to be part of putting any thoughts of freedom [read: sedition] into our minds.
It's obvious the Goldwater institute shot holes in their illegal policy.
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