Rachel Maddow's Prequel Is a Deceptively Framed History of the Radical Right
The book blames foreign subversives for ideas long rooted in American life.

Prequel: An American Fight Against Fascism, by Rachel Maddow, Crown, 416 pages, $32
"American democracy itself was under attack from enemies within and without," Rachel Maddow writes in Prequel: An American Fight Against Fascism. If you're not sure whether she is speaking of the past or the present, that's because she wants to conflate the two.
Prequel is a deeply flawed and deceptively framed history of right-wing radicalism in the United States on the eve of American entry into World War II. Maddow's treatment of this well-worn topic draws principally from primary sources generated from the protagonists of her story, a collection of private spies and anti-fascist activists, as well as contemporary press reporting, sundry government documents, and a narrow base of secondary sources, one that noticeably omits prominent works in the field. Deficiencies in her sources, methods, and analyses make for a book that recapitulates past passions at the expense of sober reflection and reality.
Maddow opens with her strongest case study, covering the German-born Nazi agent George Sylvester Viereck, who tried to push Americans toward neutrality by using personal connections with Congress to spread noninterventionist literature. She then switches focus to her weakest case study, that of populist Democratic governor and senator Huey "Kingfish" Long and his influence on the Nazi sympathizers Philip Johnson and Gerald L.K. Smith. Maddow does not clarify why Long, who died in 1935, is discussed here. But her tone and source selection imply that she agrees with the Kingfish's contemporary critics that his populism and demagoguery made him a proto-fascist and a political gateway drug for more radical figures, like Johnson and Smith.
Maddow then abruptly changes focus to the dark history of American segregation and its influence on Nazi racial science, following the German lawyer Heinrich Krieger's travels through the American South. Then she circles back to more-prominent characters, such as the American fascist Lawrence Dennis, the antisemitic preacher Charles Coughlin, and the abstruse spiritualist (and leader of the fascist Silver Shirts) William Dudley Pelley, among others.
The book's first half is occasionally productive. The chapter on Pelley does a good job of exploring the roots of his ideology: his conflation of anti-communism with antisemitism, his eclectic spiritualism, his millenarian Christianity. And the chapter on American race law is a haunting look at how American legislatures maintained racial hierarchy and what the Nazis learned from their practices.
But what narrative value she creates is relinquished by her analytical leaps, which conflate fascism with phenomena that were already well-grounded in American life well before the 1920s. And Maddow never directly states the size and scope of the groups she covers, such as the German American Bund and the Silver Shirts; instead we get such vague phrases as "many," "a lot," and "an insane number." This makes it easier to confuse the breadth of Maddow's cast of characters for the depth of their influence. (According to historian Francis MacDonnell's Insidious Foes, the German American Bund never attracted more than 25,000 members and the Silver Shirts maxed out at 15,000.)
The book's meandering journey narrows in later chapters, as Maddow argues that German propaganda had a pervasive influence on "isolationist" congressmen. She presents the propagandists' efforts as far more effective than they were, giving the impression that they were the root of Americans' general desire to stay out of World War II. She pays only lip service to the deeper roots of "isolationism," with a mere passing reference to the fallout from World War I. She does not mention the post-WWI revelations of Allied and American propaganda, the widespread alarm at the armaments industry's intimate relationship with the government, or the Great War's domestic abuses of civil liberties. (When Sen. Ernest Lundeen (R–Minn.) denounces a draft bill as "nothing short of slavery," she dismisses him as "shrill.") Instead, she writes as though the desire to remain neutral simply stemmed from abroad, stripping noninterventionism of its historical context and arguing that the "threads of isolationism, antisemitism, and fascism were becoming an ominously tight weave."
To make her case, Maddow retells a well-worn story about Viereck's use of the congressional frank, a taxpayer-funded mailing service, to distribute what Maddow calls "pro-German mailings." In fact, it was predominately literature that advocated neutrality. As historian Douglas M. Charles argued in J. Edgar Hoover and the Anti-interventionists, "All Viereck managed to accomplish was a wider distribution of anti-interventionist literature that, in any event, did not lead Americans to reassess their views on the Allies."
Her book culminates in the 1944 sedition trial, in which the United States federal government charged a heterogeneous and largely unaffiliated assortment of 30 defendants, which included far-right figures like George Sylvester Viereck, Lawrence Dennis, and William Dudley Pelley, for sedition under the 1940 Smith Act. She presents the episode as a missed opportunity to uproot homegrown fascism. In fact, the Justice Department filed its flimsy charges on politically motivated grounds—a clear threat to constitutionally protected speech and association, no matter how unsympathetic the defendants could be.
Throughout Prequel, Maddow displays a systemically uncritical use of her source material, frequently presenting the self-gratifying hyperbole of fascist propagandists and the motivated reasoning of anti-fascist reporters as gospel.
Whether she knows it or not, Maddow is dredging up a thesis from the past, written in the wake of World War II when passions were high and perspectives blinkered. This view does have some academic adherents, and she cites their work: Bradley W. Hart's Hitler's American Friends, James Q. Whitman's Hitler's American Model, Sarah Churchwell's Behold, America, Steven J. Ross's Hitler in Los Angeles, and others. But she drives her thesis beyond the confines of her evidence in a manner that these scholars do not. Hart, for example, hedges where Maddow does not, acknowledging that the "United States was not at risk of an imminent fascist takeover in the late 1930s" when he argues that there was "fertile terrain in which dictatorship might be able to take root." Yet Maddow leaves the impression that there was a risk of an imminent fascist takeover in the 1930s, with German propaganda fertilizing that fertile terrain.
Meanwhile, there is a sizeable body of work that challenges Maddow's thesis and that of her source material. Such works include established scholarship such as Leo Ribuffo's The Old Christian Right, Deborah Lipstadt's Beyond Belief, and Bruce Kuklick's recent Fascism Comes to America, to name a few. While these works do not downplay the pernicious ideologies of the far right nor their presence in American life, they do not sensationalize or dehistoricize them nor assign them more influence than they deserve. Lipstadt, who has devoted much of her career to combating the radical right's penchant for Holocaust denial, dedicated an entire chapter of Beyond Belief to challenging American anxieties about a Nazi "fifth column"—the very fears that Maddow is trying to resurrect. While Nazi Germany did have spies and propagandists in the U.S., Lipstadt cautioned that "they never constituted a network with the scope and power the press attributed them."
In Insidious Foes, MacDonnell argues that while odious and illiberal, right-wing extremists "never posed any real danger to the republic"; instead, a media echo chamber constructed the perception of a vast and powerful far right. He also makes a good case that Germany's propaganda effort was "spectacularly unsuccessful" and ultimately did more damage to the noninterventionist cause than it aided it. Ribuffo's classic The Old Christian Right (a work that Maddow mentions in her author's note but does not cite) similarly argued that the fear of these groups was a "brown scare" that often "exaggerated both [the far right's] power and its Axis connections."
How does Maddow square her findings with those of these earlier works? We do not know, because she does not tell us.
In closing the book, Maddow invites the reader to take inspiration from the work of Americans who sought to stop homegrown fascists by "any means at hand," assessing their legacies as worth remembering and emulating. Yet Maddow omits the pernicious legacy that followed from using "any means at hand" and violating the very norms her heroes sought to protect. They created the destructive and restrictive myth of isolationism, which held that it was an absence of American power from the world's stage that directly led to the rise of fascism abroad. They actively colluded with a foreign power—Great Britain—to interfere in American elections and manipulate American media. And they helped stoke the panic that led to Japanese internment and spurred the growth of the domestic security state. The latter, ironically, soon boomeranged against the left.
Those legacies are also worth remembering if we are to preserve liberty from an ever-present threat—not from enemies within our ranks or outside our walls, but within ourselves.
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Deceptively Framed
That's one way of describing what Maddow does.
Here's a different way of describing Maddow's type of journalism from the very definitely leftoid perspective.
Y'see, that's me, if I'm going to criticize a Maddow type, there's no need to go to Fox News for a second opinion. You can find someone else on the left who can see through the lies.
Some would say she lies as much as Pluggo.
They work from the same talking-points.
Personally, I’m kinda getting tired of the fact that we act like Maddow had anything to do with writing this book other than signing her name. This feels a lot like the Boehm article from a couple of weeks ago.
That is, some of, e.g., Glen Beck’s works I could kinda see how he read Agenda 21, or even just the preamble, and hammered out the outline of a simplistic, dystopian short story about it that someone else fleshed out. But for Maddow’s work are we supposed to just believe that Rachel Maddow is just browsing through Pre-/Anti-Fascism in American WWII history and just happened to come across the works of Charles Coughlin, William Dudley Pelley, and Heinrich Krieger? That she’s thoroughly familiar with Bradley W. Hart, James Q. Whitman, and Steven J. Ross? That she's been writing this book in bits and pieces behind the scenes in her spare time while not actively participating in the Historic Antifascists Society?
The generous interpretation is that, like other articles here at Reason, she was spoon-fed a list of sources to skim and provide a bullet point summary to fit a pre-existing narrative.
Don’t be an idiot. She is a Rhodes scholar and Oxford doctorate. She can do basic research. It’s not that difficult.
Now Glenn Beck? High school dropout and moron. He may be illiterate.
"Can"? What is this "can" you speak of. Do, or do not.
And what makes you so giddy in the presence of "Rhodes scholar and Oxford doctorate"? You left out that they are in politics. All that takes is woke persistence. A PhD in physics or math, now that's something.
What's your PhD in, Pedophilia? You got to do more than rearrange the letters, bud.
Fuck off, kiddie rapist.
A few years back you posted kiddy porn to this site, and your initial handle was banned. The link below details all the evidence surrounding that ban. A decent person would honor that ban and stay away from Reason. Instead you keep showing up, acting as if all people should just be ok with a kiddy-porn-posting asshole hanging around. Since I cannot get you to stay away, the only thing I can do is post this boilerplate.
https://reason.com/2022/08/06/biden-comforts-the-comfortable/?comments=true#comment-9635836
She can't do basic research. That's the point.
Can’t possibly. And it’s obvious. And it’s not the only place she does this.
At one point, there was a big thing about her wearing makeup and she said in Rolling Stone that she only wears it during the broadcast down to the minute, the copy of RS that she was on the cover of… in makeup.
It kinda gets to the point where you have to wonder if some of these people think Kim Kardashian is actually stitching together the underwear she sells too.
She can do research.
She wrote the book (if she didn't use a ghost writer), outlined her views and then researched to find sources, no matter how weak, that confirmed her views.
Maddow is a dumb person's idea of a slightly less dumb person.
And you claim not to be a progtard, yet you praise Maddow.
Don’t be an idiot. She is a Rhodes scholar and Oxford doctorate. She can do basic research. It’s not that difficult.
LOL, her research is pretty fucking basic. Surface-level, even.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
You probably think she’s nonpartisan, right pedo?
Shrike will sing the praises of Media Matters and Rachel Maddow every chance he gets, but don't you dare call him a prog.
"She is a Rhodes scholar and Oxford doctorate."
Nowadays that means you're well connected and come from money, not that you're particularly brilliant.
Besides, weren't you shitting on credentialism a couple of months ago?
She is a Rhodes scholar and Oxford doctorate, while being a complete moron.
So, there's that.
Yet he’s far more intelligent and articulate than you. You’re an idiot and a pedophile.
I suggest suicide. Don’t be selfish and keep living.
Yeah, this stuff is likely done by ghost writers.
Yeah, the Rhodes scholar needs a ghost-writer but some right-wing jackoff that never finished high school is a fount of knowledge.
Just because someone is a Rhodes scholar doesn't mean they aren't a total retard.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Sevo repeats the tired old lines. Sevo repeats the tired old lines even when they know they're beating a dead horse. Sevo repeats the same tired old crap when they know we know they're beating a dead horse.
Sevo repeats. Sevo is a tiresome broken record.
(I'm tempted to save this so I can repost it ad nauseam, but I really can't be arsed.)
Frequently. But you’re too stupid to understand that.
According to Wikipedia:
So, in addition to the show and the *two* Award-winning podcasts that she puts on, nearly by herself I'm sure, when she's not researching Spiro T. Agnew with Mike Yarvitz, she's studying up on US Pre-war pre-/proto-/anti-war fascism. And not simply managing and acting like an empty name-as-brand suit like Donald Trump.
Her degrees are in politics. All that shows is a willingness to put in years of woke persistence. It has nothing to do with quality or originality or real research.
– 2020 Alfred I. duPont–Columbia University Award for her podcast, Bagman.[99] The award “honors excellence in broadcast and digital journalism in the public service and is considered one of the most prestigious awards in journalism.” It’s “considered by some to be the broadcast equivalent of the Pulitzer Prize, another program administered by Columbia University.”
"The virus stops *slams hand on desk* with each person vaccinated..."
Dumb person's idea of a slightly less dumb person indeed.
LOL.
"I'm undoubtedly a liberal, which means that I'm in almost total agreement with the Eisenhower-era Republican Party platform."
https://valleyadvocate.com/2010/05/06/wonk-and-circumstance/
Wow. After polishing her research skills at Oxford, the epic historically first openly-LGBTQ white, female news anchor ideologically sides with the political platform that defeated Communism, opposed China's entry into the UN, declared America's trust as a faith-based nation, and signed EO 10450 (the actual, no shit, Don't-Say-Gay and work for the US Gov't order).
I'm sympathetic to Mr. Buck and anyone else who has read an entire book purportedly authored by Ms. Maddow. I can only assume that they have at some point committed a sin so grievous that God was forced to intervene and sentence them to hell on earth.
The threat of bolshevism and cultural marxism was/is far greater in American than any small fascist groups as the wave of socialists and secularists with old world grievances gained sustained power in America in the last 100 years. Not it isn't antisemitism to not want America to be dragged into useless Eastern European wars (Ukraine and Russia) or to be the sugar daddy for Israel.
And what if America was only following the strategy of Washington and the founders to avoid foreign wars? Somehow the left is labeling it as fascism. Really? Maybe America doesn't exist to give the left the win they lost when Trotsky lost to Stalin..the only thing going on here is the war on liberty by the left.
Notice German and Italian Americans fought against fascism and in fact led the American forces in the European Theater. Would Jewish Americans do the same as Israel engages in war crimes to fight war crimes.
a media echo chamber constructed the perception of a vast and powerful far right.
American Fascists have been tamped down by the liberal media echo chamber - which is testimony to our media and not an indictment of it.
Remember, Fatass Donnie call the media "the enemy of the people".
Of course you appreciate the American media. It tells you what you want to hear, then you gleefully regurgitate it, learning nothing when your #Resistance masters lead you astray over and over. Some of your greatest hits:
1. You said 2.5 years ago Trump would go to prison "soon."
2. You claimed Russia was "disintegrating" months ago, with Putin about to be overthrown and executed.
3. For a glorious 24 hours you also bought the hype about Prigozhin (remember him?).
4. You wet yourself about phantom terror plots like the SECOND INSURRECTION BY RIGHTWING EXTREMISTS on 9 / 18 / 21.
Hacks like Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann exist because people like you enjoy being misled.
What can we say, Turd lies and has the predictive accuracy of Jim Cramer.
Jeb Bush is guaranteed to be the 2016 nominee!
I never said that. Don't start lying too, Sandy.
I did choose Jeb to be the Republican left standing when Donnie was found to be a con man but conservatives were too stupid to see it.
Then you admit the others were not lies.
Fuck off, kiddie rapist.
A few years back you posted kiddy porn to this site, and your initial handle was banned. The link below details all the evidence surrounding that ban. A decent person would honor that ban and stay away from Reason. Instead you keep showing up, acting as if all people should just be ok with a kiddy-porn-posting asshole hanging around. Since I cannot get you to stay away, the only thing I can do is post this boilerplate.
https://reason.com/2022/08/06/biden-comforts-the-comfortable/?comments=true#comment-9635836
Victoria Nuland was literally nowhere to be seen during the Bushpigs Gulf War!
You chose Jeb!, one of the neocons you claim to hate, lying sack of shit.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Ignorant and prejudiced people like to be deceived. Why confuse them with the truth?
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Interesting to look up Americans who sold us out to the Soviets for ideological reasons...you should take a look. They all had the same MO..and it wasn't some hillbilly redneck from Montana following some idiot.
Fascism never had much of a reach in the US..but sustained decades of the bolshie ideology in our media/academia/govt has been a much greater danger to our liberty.
Let's take a look at Harry Dexter White for example and the red crowd who sold America out..
Fascism rolled into America under FDR’s blanket.
And the media who openly inflame racial and class tensions, while running cover for the very power they’re supposed to be speaking truth to, ARE the enemy of the people.
MSLSD's Madcow deceptive? Well I never!
Yeah, they could have shortened the headline a bit and recycled it for other subjects & events.
Fascism as in a History of the Radical Right?
Oh, shit. You know it, I know it, and the whole academic world knows it but the Peanuts deny it.
Turd, this is from Maddow, a woman who lies just as much as you do. You should get together with her, have a date, see a movie, fuck, then take a long walk off a short pier together.
Where does she lie? I doubt you can cite any.
I find her boring so I am not familiar with her politics other than she is a Rhodes scholar and on the left. She is really boring - I don't know how she is popular.
Now the right has the liars - Fat Rush Limbaugh (Praise be unto Him), Beck, Hannity, etc
I remember when she was pushing all-in on a story about an Oklahoma hospital that was absolutely overrun with patients ODing on Ivermectin. That was a banger.
Found it: https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/07/politics/fact-check-oklahoma-ivermectin-story/index.html
It was a local news segment that she re-tweeted.
The tale of ivermectin overdoses cramming Oklahoma hospitals was amplified on social media by numerous liberal personalities with substantial followings. Perhaps the most prominent was MSNBC host Rachel Maddow, who shared the KFOR piece with her more than 10 million Twitter followers.
Hardly a "lie" of HERS. Just a stupid re-tweet.
In which the child-porn spreader absolves everyone who shares anything of sourcing. Including his own child-porn.
Never change you pedo.
Well, I know Trump rednecks are full-time liars so if you call Rachel Maddow a liar it must be that you can't cite one from her.
And I was correct.
No you were not. You had to invent a new handle after you lied.
A few years back you posted kiddy porn to this site, and your initial handle was banned. The link below details all the evidence surrounding that ban. A decent person would honor that ban and stay away from Reason. Instead you keep showing up, acting as if all people should just be ok with a kiddy-porn-posting asshole hanging around. Since I cannot get you to stay away, the only thing I can do is post this boilerplate.
https://reason.com/2022/08/06/biden-comforts-the-comfortable/?comments=true#comment-9635836
Lying by commission is still lying, pedo.
Own up to your ban and FBI dodge.
turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Are you sure it wasn't the one where the people poisoned themselves with aquarium cleaner, and then it turned out to be the wife murdering her husband?
That was a nice fable until the rest of the facts came out.
She's too damned old.
turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
A large chunk of the academic world is supportive of Hamas.
Not sure they'd know fascism if it posted kiddie porn on Reason and had a handle banned.
I'm very sorry you are one of ... ~~ checks to see if Rachel's parents are alive ~~ ... seven people who will read this book.
+1 Not even sure her parents will read it, just house 30K copies so that it hits the Best Seller list.
Yes, Fascists did briefly control the government in the period prior to and during World War II. They managed a number of gross infringements on liberty. They called it "The New Deal."
Ribuffo, an historian of politics and religion who died last week at age 73, is best known for The Old Christian Right: The Protestant Far Right from the Great Depression to the Cold War. That book covered some very weird characters indeed, from William Dudley Pelley, who mixed spiritualism with Nazism, to Gerald B. Winrod, who thought the Illuminati were behind the New Deal.
Interesting specialty this Ribuffo had - "Christo-Fascism" as Doherty put it.
Better than diddling kiddies.
A few years back you posted kiddy porn to this site, and your initial handle was banned. The link below details all the evidence surrounding that ban. A decent person would honor that ban and stay away from Reason. Instead you keep showing up, acting as if all people should just be ok with a kiddy-porn-posting asshole hanging around. Since I cannot get you to stay away, the only thing I can do is post this boilerplate.
https://reason.com/2022/08/06/biden-comforts-the-comfortable/?comments=true#comment-9635836
turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
"William Dudley Pelley, who mixed spiritualism with Nazism"
I know that you're too dumb and angry to know this, but "spiritualism" was a prototype new-age occult religion. It wasn't Christianity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritualism
I'm always astounded how someone could be so appallingly ignorant about the culture that surrounds him.
It helps that shrike is incredibly incredibly dumb.
If he were really aware of these things, and had any self awareness at all, he would either change his beliefs and his malignant ways, or kill himself.
"which held that it was an absence of American power from the world's stage that directly led to the rise of fascism abroad."
Maintaining our insane demand for world war one "reparations" is what directly led to the rise of fascism in Germany. The attack on Pearl Harbor by the Empire of Japan was directly caused by the United States threatening Japan's access to petroleum supplies to punish them for their war on China.
No it did not. Germany's reparations were less than they had expected to demand of France if they had won (see the 1870 war for an example) and less than they demanded of the USSR.
Get your facts straight.
Your assertion, even if true, does not refute my opinion.
I'd argue you should say that GERMANY felt the reparations were "insane", but pointing out what the identical Germans demanded of USSR indicates that what they were expected to do was borderline generous.
Maintaining our insane demand for world war one “reparations” is what directly led to the rise of fascism in Germany.
Actually that's the myth people are taught in school and it's quite misleading. Reparations did not cause the hyperinflation in Germany, Germany's shitty policies did. This myth originates from Keynes, and the Keynesians worship at his altar and have ensured it goes into every history textbook regardless of its validity (just like the myth about how the New Deal ended the Great Depression).
The treaty of Versailles was bad, but largely because of how it tried to push the idea of ethnostates, while at the same time creating big multicultural states like Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia, or just taking swaths of land from Hungary and giving it to Romania regardless who lived there. The bad redrawing of borders and the focus on cultural and ethnic boundaries did a lot of harm.
But as to the reparations, they were greater on paper than they were in reality due to the interest rates they were attached to. Also, Germany only ever paid a fraction of them and then stopped paying them. Hyperinflation came as a result of price and rent controls that had been installed nation-wide during the war, and then carried over after the war.
Your assertion, even if true, does not refute my opinion.
Except the part about there not being “insane” reparations. And The part where Germany was financially ruined by paying them (they barely paid anything and mostly used money they borrowed from us to pay us). And the part where fascism arose to power in Germany. Fascism rose in Italy (one of the allies in WWI.). Mostly from ex Marxists who were feuding with the Bolshevik factions in Italy. Who in turn, declared “fascism” the very definition of “right wing”, because that’s what Bolshevik’s do to anyone who disagrees with them.
Germany had “national socialism”. It was basically, race socialism. And Mussolini was as likely to be Hitlers enemy as his friend before about ‘37 or ‘38.
Fascism in Germany had nothing to do with the US. All the German ‘liberalism’ that Weimar needed either emigrated to the US in 1848 or had no chance against the fascist and commie streetfighters trying to take down Weimar.
The attack on Pearl Harbor was inevitable the nanosecond Japan decided to go south rather than north after Khalkin Gol. The Philippines was going to be conquered and therefore the US Pacific Fleet had to be stopped.
The world doesn’t revolve around the US. What we do. What we don’t do. What is important in our elections. That notion is sloth and toxic.
"...The world doesn’t revolve around the US..."
Japan's decisions regarding WWII certainly did, but you are entirely too stupid and full of yourself to understand that.
"Among the factors leading to the revolution were the extreme burdens suffered by the German population during the four years of war, the economic and psychological impacts of the German Empire's defeat by the Allies, and growing social tensions between the general population and the aristocratic and bourgeois elite."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918%E2%80%931919
Although I usually try to avoid citing Wikipedia, it's as good a summary as any to start with on a complex historical discussion. Saying that the United States "had nothing to do with" fascism in Germany is just silly. Even if the actual economic impact of reparations was not a major factor, the resentment of the people of Germany at paying them certainly WAS a factor, played upon effectively by the emerging fascist movement.
"Two circumstances were mainly responsible for the failure of reparations. One was the political instability of Germany and its refusal to accept responsibility for the war. A more fundamental circumstance was the unwillingness of the creditors to accept reparation payments in the only practicable way they could be made—by the transfer of goods and services."
https://www.britannica.com/topic/reparations
Germany didn’t start the war, but Germany did, unprovoked, declare war on Belgium and France and invaded both before either had entered the war. They were asked to repay some amount of the economic damages they inflicted on those countries with their aggression.
Internal German politics pushed the “Stab In The Back” narrative of WWI that had nothing to do with the Allies. They had some delusion that they were winning and were going to defeat all the Allied powers if their corrupt leaders hadn’t signed a peace treaty.
And the reason you can’t trust Wikipedia is because the whole topic is political narrative building, and has been for decades. The talking points are entrenched and it’s difficult to challenge those, but that doesn’t mean we just accept them as true. German resentment was a factor, but it was an internal political matter-the German population were misled about how bad the war was going, and then blindsided by the surrender because they were disconnected from their leaders. Internal politics bred resentment, not the reparations they barely even attempted to pay.
The Treaty of Versailles did have problems, but the war reparations is not a true cause of the Weimar hyperinflation, nor any other factor leading into WWII.
Hell, the Weimar Constitution did a lot to kill Weimer Germany.
Article 48 was used way, way, way too often.
Fascists have a long history of calling anyone who opposes them 'fascists'. Meadow and her fellow fascists are, and have been, doing what she's describing for decades.
They're trying to impose fascism on us through fake crises and propaganda. It works quite well on the weak minded and entitled who want to be social justice heroes.
Mussolini was one of their heroes before they developed a crush on Stalin.
Yes, the Jews and the homos are the real Nazis! I wondered when one of you wingnuts would show up to deny your Nazi underpinnings.
FDR admired all three of them -- Mussolini, Hitler, and Stalin.
You just admire toddlers.
A few years back you posted kiddy porn to this site, and your initial handle was banned. The link below details all the evidence surrounding that ban. A decent person would honor that ban and stay away from Reason. Instead you keep showing up, acting as if all people should just be ok with a kiddy-porn-posting asshole hanging around. Since I cannot get you to stay away, the only thing I can do is post this boilerplate.
https://reason.com/2022/08/06/biden-comforts-the-comfortable/?comments=true#comment-9635836
And Fatass Donnie admires Vlad, Xi, and the fat little Korean.
OMEGALUL, it still bothers you that Chocolate Jesus and his whitebread retard lost Ukraine while Trump didn't.
In other words, you don't deny FDR was a fascist and a fascist lover.
Way to go, pedo.
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
"Fatass Donnie admires Vlad"
Yes, remember when Trump gave Putin a reset button?
Oh wait...
Or how about the time that he got caught on a hot mic telling Putin's surrogates to let him have some space until after the election, when he could be more flexible.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.
Bitch, please. Democrats are just Nazis with different racial/ethnic/religious priorities.
Fascists have a long history of calling anyone who opposes them ‘fascists’.
While I'm sympathetic to the proposal that college students are actually fascists despite using that pejorative against anyone who disagrees with them, that's just a rehash of Goldberg's laughably pathetic screed "Liberal Fascism".
But she's right! How else can one frame FDR's New Deal fascist takeover of the economy, along with FDR's admiration of Mussolini and Hitler and Stalin?
exactly. the fascists won in the 30s and are still in charge today.
*Trotskyists
With the left it is always about Trotsky. Look you can be against the mafia and not be an anti-Italian bigot...
As for the 1930s..the US could not have stopped "Hitler" as the entire European situation was chaotic and confusing. The Brits rejected the Strassa Front which Mussolini offered to encircle Hitler as the Brits wanted their empire, didn't want to let Italy have one and wanted their own side agreement on naval limitations with Hitler. And the view for many was Hitler was a barrier to Stalin/Communism. It wasn't very clear where things were going for the folks in charge until it was too late. And what was the US supposed to do? The French had just finished their occupation of parts of Germany. Was the US supposed to invade Germany by itself in 1937? As for Japan, FDR totally screwed the pooch there. He marginalized the moderates and was gunning for a fight. He just didn't think the Japanese who he thought were inferior humans (he also thought he was an expert in China) would be defeated easily. Pearl Harbor should have led to his impeachment.
France could have obliterated the German forces for years, but their leadership was cowardly and defeatist.
Almost all of Hitler's early moves could have been repelled, with ease, by a small number of troops. He would've likely been overthrown at that point.
Hell, if the UK and France did not threaten to intervene against them, the Czechs could have beaten back the Nazis with no help.
France? Are you kidding? The French army couldn't surrender fast enough when the Germans crossed into the country. They were too busy with their glasses of wine and hands full of cheese.
I'm pretty confident this book was ghostwritten. There's no way she took time out of her schedule to suddenly become a scholar of any stripe.
ChatGPT: "Compose a short book based on my monologues."
forget it Jake, it's Maddow town
Throughout Prequel, Maddow displays a systemically uncritical use of her source material
That is because, as the author meticulously explains, this is not in any way a scholarly work. It is a ham-fisted attempt to link the modern conservative movement with the (alleged) sins of gaping assholes of the past.
Gaping Assholes of the Past would be a great band name.
“In fact, the Justice Department filed its flimsy charges on politically motivated grounds—a clear threat to constitutionally protected speech and association, no matter how unsympathetic the defendants could be.”
If Reason existed at that time, would they have covered this?
Depends if they had a billionaire benefactor who told them what they could and couldn't write.
There's an old legend that Huey Long was once asked by a reporter if fascism would ever come to America to which he replies "Yes. But they'll call it anti fascism". But "his populism and demagoguery made him a proto-fascist and a political gateway drug for more radical figures ". So was he a proto-fascist or a proto-antifascist? We currently have a former president who has been accused of populism and demagoguery in these very pages and who is seeking another term in office. The Kingfish of our times. Is he a real fascist or an anti fascist bent on bringing fascism to our glorious democracy? Meanwhile gangs of anti fascists roam the streets terrorizing the population. They kinda act like fascists. Or maybe it's just an idea roaming the streets. But is the idea fascism or anti fascism or fascism disguised as anti fascism? I am increasingly reaching the conclusion that this word actually has no contemporary definition. Prove me wrong.
The same anti-fascists in America's colleges and universities constantly attacking, either verbally or physically, any one who dares challenge their anti fascist ideology .
Namely white people.
Why did they use a pic with her in a Halloween mask?
Ironic, given that Rachel Maddow is a fascist.
People throwing around terms that don't mean what they think it means. Nothing new here.
Rachel Maddow, deceptive about the right?
No way. No fucking way.
I think I am going to faint.
Who really cares what that ugly lesbo says?
Her along with other philosophical greats as Joe Behar and Joy Reid represent true idiocracy.
I always think it is funny that in the US the real fascists call others fascists. FDR's New Deal had many fascist aspects as evidenced by the National Recovery Act. It used a blue eagle symbol that retailers had to post in their windows and the Act controlled prices. Retailers who violated the act and had a sale were prosecuted. It also caused the economy to relapse back to depression levels because producers shut down production because they couldn't afford material to make product. He was a big admirer of fascist power. The left here has always wanted to implement fascist controls. It is why government always grows when they are in power.