Taxpayers Bankroll Electric Vehicles Even as Fewer People Buy Them
Ford and General Motors have tempered plans for E.V. production, but governments still spend billions of dollars in incentives.

American automakers are delaying or abandoning their promises of electric vehicle (E.V.) production, citing cooling market demand. Unfortunately, government subsidies and mandates are unlikely to go away as easily.
Earlier this week, The Wall Street Journal reported that General Motors (G.M.), the United States' top-selling automaker, had walked back its E.V. production ambitions. CEO Mary Barra told investors in February 2022 that the company planned to manufacture, sell, and deliver 400,000 E.V.s in North America by the end of this year. In October 2022, Barra delayed the deadline by as much as six months, citing difficulty sourcing raw materials.
Now G.M. is abandoning that plan altogether amid cooling demand. Last week, the automaker announced that it was delaying E.V. production at its factory in Orion Township, near Detroit. In July, Ford similarly announced that it expected to hit its goal of producing 600,000 E.V.s per year in 2024—not in 2023, as it had previously predicted.
Each company is also contending with a strike by the United Auto Workers union. G.M. noted that it is losing $200 million per week as a result of the strike, though the company still outperformed expectations in its third-quarter earnings.
But there's more to this story than just a series of decisions by private companies. Earlier this year, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) announced new rules that would require as many as two of every three vehicles sold in the U.S. by 2032 to be electric. In July, an automotive lobby trade organization argued that while it supported a shift to green technology, the EPA's proposal was "neither reasonable nor achievable" on its intended timeline.
In turn, governments are spending billions of dollars trying to bend both the supply and demand curves to their whim. The Biden administration's Inflation Reduction Act implemented a $7,500 tax credit for the purchase of electric vehicles, even including a "made in America"–style provision requiring that to qualify, a vehicle's "final assembly" must have taken place in North America and its materials must be sourced domestically as well.
Meanwhile, state and local governments are dishing out lucrative incentive packages, trying to entice automakers looking for places to build new factories. In fact, the Orion Township plant for which G.M. delayed its E.V. rollout was part of a series of factories that received $824 million in incentives from the Michigan government, including a $600 million grant, a $158 million tax break, and more than $66 million in infrastructure improvements. Ford has similarly received hundreds of millions of dollars from the Michigan government since 2021 specifically tied to its plans for E.V. production.
Granted, market conditions change, and businesses have to adjust accordingly; sometimes that means delaying big projects. But in those cases, it's the companies themselves whose money is on the line. When governments chip in, it's taxpayers who are left holding the bag. G.M. may be delaying its E.V. goals, but Michiganders are still on the hook for $824 million in tax money or foregone revenues that the state government felt was better served in the hands of a company with a market cap currently just shy of $40 billion.
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GM and Ford can’t compete with Tesla.
That is OK if the business model involves sucking on the government tit. Just got to keep attached.
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Gee, who knew the childlike fantasy would implode?
I'm glad it's happening before the "transition" occurs. I'm not really into alternative protein and walking to work. I'm just dumbfounded by how many supposedly smart people have been brainwashed by all the green bullshit. It has been one hell of a grift by our overlords.
Were Tesla subject to relatively arbitrary EPA emission and fuel regulations, State and Federal Union regulations, and state-to-state dealership and sales regulations they wouldn’t be able to compete with Ford or GM.
None of which has the least bit to do with engineering, electromotive physics, or saving the planet and quite a lot to do with free markets and libertarians but, I guess as long as your preferred religious order is the one that gets preferential treatment, who gives a fuck, right?
Tesla builds a superior electric car and charging system.
In which case, Tesla should be able to sell them absent the subsidies.
And while paying to comply with Union/wage laws.
And while paying to comply with laws regulating them to clean up non-hazardous byproducts of the use of their product.
And while paying to offset the energy consumption of their product/subsidize the *next* generation of vehicles/energy.
Or, and it's completely a coincidence that this would go directly against ESG policies and the DNC platform going back decades; allow Ford, GM, and others to tell Unions, the EPA, and federal fuel and excise regulators to go fuck themselves.
They build a premium electric car that has a decent (and proprietary) charging system. If they had to build a mass-market vehicle, they couldn't compete as they lack the scale to do so.
For the first time ever, an all-electric vehicle — specifically the Tesla Model Y — is now the world's bestselling car. According to analyst data from Jato Dynamics (published by Motor1), the Tesla Model Y has surpassed Toyota's RAV4 and Corolla models to top global sales rankings in the first quarter of 2023.
Seems to be mass market.
Try, oh, a Ford Mustang with the same subsides.
And get your thumb off the scale, fanboi.
That does not appear to be factually correct: https://www.autoweek.com/news/industry-news/a44600661/is-tesla-model-y-the-worlds-best-selling-car-nope-not-even-close/
"...the company groups Model Y production and sales with Model 3 production and sales. Tesla delivered 412,180 Models 3/Y globally in the first quarter, and we can’t find the breakout among the two.We reached out to Toyota for Corolla numbers, and the automaker reports it sold 740,561 Corollas worldwide in the first quarter of this year, counting all versions including the Cross."
THX. That didn't smell right; you can't build the 'best selling car' in one plant, but fanbois managed to flood the search sites with that bullshit.
Ok, second place, (if you count all the Corolla variants as one model).
Also, Model y is made in more than one factory.
You.
Are.
Full.
Of.
Shit.
Fanboi.
If it's fair to lump all Tesla model 3 and model y sales into one group, it's fair to lump all Toyota corollas into their own.
And it's fair to mention that the Toyota outsells the Tesla (BEST SELLING CAR IN THE WORLD!!!!!!) by 3-to-one, but our resident bullshit artist is still pitching.
Mass media selling blatant lies in defense of the 'E' in 'ESG'?
Wake me when the deluded, lying crypto-socialist fanbois start to recognize they're delusional and lying.
BTW, regardless of your Tesla bullshit, EVs don't seem to be selling well at all:
"Electric vehicles account for less than 1% of the 250 million vehicles, SUVs, and light-duty trucks sold in the United States. Because only around 17 million new cars are being built each year, changing the vehicles from gas-powered to electric will be a long process, especially as far as the government is concerned..."
https://www.jdpower.com/cars/shopping-guides/what-percent-of-us-car-sales-are-electric
According to automotive research firm Kelley Blue Book (KBB), US EV sales in the third quarter crossed 313,000, nearly a 50% increase from a year ago, and around 15,000 more than the 298,000 sold in Q2. Cox Automotive (KBB's parent company) said EV market share hit 7.9%, its highest ever level and up from the 6.1% recorded a year ago.
The market is growing.
Yes, from 1% to, perhaps 1.5%. Do you really think want to keep proving you're an EV brain-dead fanboi?
It's their existential crises all the way down.
The market has to be growing because it's so small the only alternatives are "collapsing" and "vanishing".
Similarly, the useful *E*sg idiots need it to be growing, otherwise they're just plain old vanilla idiots of the useless variety.
I keep saying this as I keep coming across it, "I like electric cars." wouldn't bug me. I know people who like Crossfit too. I know people who are vegan. I know people who hate Mormons. I know people who hate Jews. No problems all the way around because they recognize it's a personal preference and that making up bullshit like "Tesla is the most popular car in America." not only hurts their cause, it undermines the notion that they're just enjoying something as a personal preference rather than as a social/virtue signal.
I accept your criticism as completely valid.
Complete bullshit. They could bury tesla, but the demand does not justify the investment. It's simple math.
Are you saying Tesla didn’t make any investments?
You should try to be a bit less obvious in an attempt at mis-direction.
Tesla model y is now the best selling car in the world.
Seems to be demand.
Financed by the taxpayer, fanboi.
BTW, see above. You're full of it.
Voters who are outraged about being forced to subsidize somethings are happy to force others to pay for what they like. This is called HYPOCRISY.
As a voluntarist, I'm against robbing anyone for anything. This is called CONSISTENCY. I'm logical. I respect rights, choice, not force, threats, fraud. I don't believe in "The Most Dangerous Superstition", by Larken Rose.
Ford and General Motors have tempered plans for E.V. production, but *TAXPAYERS* still spend billions of dollars in incentives.
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EVs are boomer ruling class idiocy. red barchetta!
The more federal government tightens its grip, the more drivers will slip through their fingers! Once again, the tube of toothpaste illustration is appropriate here: if government regulates one sector of the market, customers and drivers will shift to a less regulated sector. There are some things that electric vehicles can do well and some things that they cannot do as well as internal combustion engines. If government bans the sale of new ICEs altogether people will simply stop buying new vehicles and keep driving their old vehicles forever, just like Cuba. If our lords and masters want America to be just like Cuba, they can probably achieve that, at least, if nothing else.
There are some things that electric vehicles can do well and some things that they cannot do as well as internal combustion engines.
And the distinction evaporates with hybrid vehicles but, as indicated, Government leaders around the world openly collude to confining everyone to 15 min. walkable cities, public transportation, sleeping in pods, eating bugs, and owning nothing.
if the government has to pay you to buy something then it probably isn't worth it.
The billions in subsidies are peanuts. The biggest subsidies are in the form of fleet fuel efficiency standards: automakers need to sell EV's below cost and subsidize them by charging a lot more on gas powered cars to meet fuel efficiency standards. Without those requirements, the big automakers wouldn't be producing EV's at all.
It's all quite the tangled web that's been woven. The causes and effects, up, down and sideways are nearly endless.
The difference between and ICE and an EV is a minor consumer choice. Unless the government is having one of its "whims".
Taxpayers get robbed. No expenditure justifies theft, denial of property rights. Voters get ruled, not represented. All citizens suffer, but the voluntarists who boycott coercion, the initiation of force, threats, fraud, suffer most, because they are forced despite the fact they want no part of the coercive govt. paradigm. Voters tell them to leave or shut up, but when a voter gets "governed" against their values, they scream/yell, cry "unfair"! Why don't they leave? Because the whole world is unfair, violent, by consent of the victims who believe in "The Most Dangerous Superstition" (Larken Rose).
The fairer solution would be a carbon tax, so that polluters pay their own freight. But the fossil fuel industry is too powerful to allow that, so we get these incentive programs instead.
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MORE Gov-Gun theft against those 'icky' people will stop the weather from changing!!! ... because of course 'guns' control the weather!!! /s
It's amazing how gullible and retarded the left is.
The fairer solution would be a carbon tax, so that polluters pay their own freight. But the fossil fuel industry is too powerful to allow that, so we get these EV incentive programs instead.
You contain about 18% carbon. Can we tax you 18% of your body weight to generate more BS propaganda about evil carbon? E=mc^2. The entire 'evil' carbon premise is 100% BS. During WWII when more CO2 from gasoline was emitted completely UN-filtered than any other time the climate temperature averages fell faster than any other time before it.
It's all just a bunch of drum beaters and psychopaths feeding this BS propaganda from its very premise made-up entirely to further a Nazi-Empire conquer of the USA.