Hamas' Attack in Israel Doesn't Reveal Much About U.S. Border Security
There is little, if any, comparison between the terrorist threat that Israel faces and security problems along the U.S.-Mexico border.

The U.S.-Mexico border is a chaotic mess. In the fiscal year ending in September, Border Patrol had 2,045,838 encounters with unlawful border crossers—the second highest in history.
There are three explanations for the border chaos. The first is the incredible U.S. demand for immigrant labor. Since President Joe Biden took office, there have been an average of about 10.4 million nonfarm job openings per month compared to just 6.7 million during the Trump administration. Second, U.S. immigration laws allow in very few legal immigrants. Third, the Biden administration has broadcast mixed messages that sometimes unintentionally encourage dangerous travel to the border.
The U.S. economy is paying immigrants to come, the law is stopping most of them from coming legally, and the administration is confused. The result is a massive increase in illegal immigration since Biden took office. Voters rightly fear this border chaos, which is why the number of border apprehensions is correlated with a desire to reduce immigration—even the legal variety. This voter response doesn't make sense because less legal immigration will increase illegal immigration, but it is a predictable political response to chaos.
At the same time, the number of migrants apprehended along the U.S.-Mexico border who were in the Terrorist Screening Database (TSDB) also increased to 169 in 2023, up from 98 last year and three in 2020. The TSDB, also known as the "watchlist," is a government database that consolidates all federal terrorist watchlists of known or suspected terrorists, additional individuals who represent a potential threat to the United States, known affiliates of watchlisted individuals, and practically anyone else.
According to Christopher Piehota, the former director of the Terrorist Screening Center, the government can include individuals on the TSDB without a reasonable suspicion "to support immigration and border screening by the Department of State and Department of Homeland Security." In other words, it is a broad list that is less meaningful than it seems at first blush.
I testified in front of Congress last month that the chance of terrorists illegally crossing the U.S.-Mexico border is small. Since 1975, three terrorists crossed the U.S.-Mexico border as children and, over 20 years later, were arrested for planning an attack in New Jersey before they could carry it out. A terrorist could cross the U.S.-Mexico border, but the increase in TSDB apprehensions doesn't necessarily indicate that it's more likely now. Most of those TSDB hits are likely Colombian former members of revolutionary drug dealing groups like FARC that terrorized Colombia but have never attempted an attack in the United States.
Earlier this month, Hamas committed a stunningly brutal terrorist attack in Israel that murdered at least 1,400 people. Terrorists from Gaza broke through Israeli border barriers and murdered soldiers, women, children, and civilians of all ages. Americans justifiably reacted with horror and disgust at those attacks, but some policy makers and commentators used the news of those attacks in Israel to draw unreasonable parallels with U.S.-Mexico border security. Donald Trump is the most prominent Republican who linked Hamas' terrorist attack in Israel to U.S.-Mexico border security, but Nikki Haley, Ron DeSantis, Vivek Ramaswamy, and Kevin McCarthy also responded to Hamas' attack in Israel by worrying about terrorists crossing the U.S.-Mexico border like they crossed Israel's border.
Border security is important, and there is an international terrorist threat that endangers Americans. Still, there is little comparison between the terrorist threat that Israel faces and security problems along the U.S.-Mexico border.
First, many of Israel's borders are aspirational ceasefire lines that rockets, terrorists, warplanes, and soldiers frequently cross. The U.S.-Mexico border, by contrast, is riven with arms smuggling, drug smuggling, illegal immigration, and the violence that comes with all black-market activity. There are no bomb shelters for civilians to defend themselves against frequent rocket attacks and acts of terrorism and military incursions are not punctuating a long-simmering insurgency. The U.S.-Mexico border is standard; Israel's borders are radically unstable.
Second, the annual chance of being murdered in a terrorist attack in Israel is about 33 times greater than in the United States. There have been about 200 murders for every person killed in a terrorist attack in the United States since 1990. In Israel, there are about two nonterrorist murders for every person killed in an attack during the same time—and most of the murders committed in the Hamas' attack on Israel were carried out by terrorists who illegally crossed Israel's borders. Not so in the United States, where zero people have been murdered in attacks by terrorists who illegally crossed the border.
Third, countries bordering the United States are not a source of terrorism. Since 1975, zero Mexican terrorists have even been arrested for plotting an attack, let alone accomplishing one. There have been 24 terrorists from the Western Hemisphere who attempted or committed attacks on U.S. soil since 1975. There were 12 from Cuba, three apiece from Haiti and from Canada, two apiece from the Bahamas and from Trinidad and Tobago, and one apiece from Honduras and from the Dominican Republic. Together, they murdered seven people in attacks and injured one person. There is no Mexican, Central American, or South American version of Hamas targeting the United States.
Terrorists could cross the U.S.-Mexico border and commit an attack here, but the facts show that it is an extremely small threat. Regardless, the U.S. government should continue to weed out potential security threats to protect Americans' life, liberty, and property.
At a minimum, any serious comparison between the security challenges of the U.S.-Mexico border and Israel's borders is inappropriate. Israelis measure their border security challenges by looking at a huge number of victims from terrorists who attacked across Gaza; Americans measure it by proxy measurements of mostly Colombian former members of FARC registering hits on overly broad terrorism databases. This analysis is not comforting to Israelis but should provide much comfort to Americans.
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"There is little, if any, comparison between the terrorist threat that Israel faces and security problems along the U.S.-Mexico border."
Untrue in some major particulars. both states have been plagued by tunneling across their borders to deliver contraband, drugs in the US case and rocket building materials in Gaza.
In both border economies weapons and drugs are worth more in than their weight in illegal aliens.
South of the border, Mexicans aren't illegal aliens. Gazans are illegal aliens on both sides of their border.
Where are your papers?
A huge chunk of the illegal border crossers in the US are NOT from Mexico, and are generally viewed by Mexico as illegal aliens, too, at least if they stay in Mexico for any length of time.
Gazans are stateless. They don't have passports and travel anywhere is fraught with many obstacles.
Gazans have a de facto statelet, with borders recognized by other nations (albeit their government wants Gaza's borders expanded to cover all of Israel and, eventually, the entire planet), but, since their government is run by terrorists, they are blockaded by Egypt and Israel with regard to military use items, since their government is run by terrorists.
>>This analysis is not comforting to Israelis but should provide much comfort to Americans.
the slow ones, anyway ...
You must be very, very comforted then.
The U.S. economy is paying immigrants to come, the law is stopping most of them from coming legally, and the administration is confused.
SloJo confused?? Tell me it ain’t so, Joe.
Haha! Mental patient Prez.
Allowing in as many Mexicans who want to work here after an ID check at the border is not "open borders" in any sense of the word. They should be allowed to stay in the United States as long as they support themselves and don't commit any actual crimes (yes, I mean murder, armed robbery, assault and battery, etc.) People who scoff at "open borders" or who fear cultural destruction or who don't want to pay for welfare for immigrants are just making excuses to cover their disgusting xenophobia. Enough with the chaos already! Time to abandon your big, beautiful walls and leave other people alone.
Die.
Funny how you guys always end up at cries of racism when you can’t defend your position with any intellectual arguments.
They should be allowed to stay in the United States as long as they support themselves and don’t commit any actual crimes (yes, I mean murder, armed robbery, assault and battery, etc.)
This is the crux of the argument. They don't support themselves. They do cost money. They do cause border hospitals to go bankrupt. They do commit crimes. Not all. But enough to have an effect on society. But you cry racism at anyone pointing this out.
The sponsor system doesn't require sponsors to ever actually pay for those they sponsor. Despite laws. So it is a meaningless system.
Do you need what the current costs are yet again? Tens of billions a year in subsidized costs. Not even including displacement costs from jobs of Americans on welfare. Which is why all welfare needs to be ended.
Amazingly the left has turned down every offer of expanded work permits to quell many of the arguments. Instead of attacking them you declare everyone who knows the facts as xenophobic. Youre why the argument is so terrible.
By all means make the immigration issue a left-right welfare thing. Proving my point every step of the way! Couldn't have done a better job myself. What are they going to do if you don't give them welfare while they're here not supporting themselves? They're going to go back home. But as you well know the vast majority of illegal aliens ARE supporting themselves doing the jobs you think are beneath you. Thanks for playing ...
They are bankrupting border hospitals and ER's. This is a fairly well-known piece of knowledge.
That NO city seems to find them to be a financial benefit seems to belie your belief.
But they're not supporting themselves.
How so? Since they're coming here to fill jobs you won't take, they are obviously supporting themselves.
So every job provides a living wage and all those fight for
$15 $20$25 protesters are just whinging?Not only are they earning a living, they're living very frugally AND sending money back home. Keep proving your racism with every word.
You just now said that immigrants all act in the same way.
That’s racism.
That's because cities like Chicago are giving them $9000 to pay their rent. And New York puts them up in hotels at a $10B cost and rising.
Just saw an article about Texas being "not white" anymore, whites comprising 39.something percent and Hispanics 40.something. "What a great thing for diversity!" the article spouted. Then it went on to say "Texas is facing problems due to an uneducated workforce." And also said "Whites graduated high-school at 95% rate, Hispanics at 70%". As if these things were not related.
I'm not saying something racist like Hispanics cannot be educated, but they simply are not qualified at this point. We've imported millions of uneducated (many are illiterate even in their native language) and individuals living in poverty. Most are not educated enough to take on the "new jobs" and, while they may be good honest hard-working folks, there are fewer and fewer jobs that require raw manual labor. So what exactly are these people going to do to stay off the welfare roles?
OTOH, if you get rid of the welfare state, including public schools, then they would certainly HAVE to be self-sufficient, and that argument goes away. At which point I'd throw the border pretty much wide open, simple checkpoints to make an effort to weed out known criminals.
When people from south and central America become the majority, why do you belive their cultures won't? The US will become the 3rd world shit hole they are fleeing.
SM fears the prospect of being surrounded by people who speak Latin better than he.
What is the latin for magic soil.
Yes, that is exactly what it is. Those migrants put a huge strain on US tax payers because they earn far below what they would need to earn in order to pay for the per capita expenditures of US governments. Immigration into the US should be limited to the best and the brightest, people with excellent earnings potential.
My xenophobia is quite principled and based on being an immigrant. What is disgusting is that virtue signaling morons like you want to turn the US into the same kind of shithole that I worked very hard to get away from.
Your xenophobia comes first and you make up lies to support it. None of what you say is true. If you don't want to support immigrants who don't support themselves, stop giving them welfare. It's as simple as that, so stop lying to cover your racism ... it's just embarassing!
"Stop giving them welfare"
Can we do that? I'd like to do that, please.
Can you advise us how to not give them welfare?
You better believe it! I am literally and unapologetically afraid of the rest of the world because I have experienced it, extensively. I don’t want it to come to the US.
I have nothing against immigrants under US law: limited, regular immigration of people based on their ability to support themselves and make positive contributions to the US. I oppose "let anybody come".
Welfare has nothing to do with this. The federal, state, and local governments spend about $30000 per year for every person within the US, man, woman, child. You can easily verify that yourself.
This isn’t welfare, this is what it takes to keep the country operating. If we admit a population of people who, on average, don’t pay that much in taxes per year, we are making our fiscal problems worse. You need to earn six figures to pay that much in taxes, and almost none of the people coming over the southern border ever will.
Likewise, the migrants we are attracting are producing less on average than the per capita GDP of the US; that means that they inevitably lower the wealth and prosperity of the US according to standard economic measures.
So, I think anybody should be able to come to the US if they make six figures in the US. But as long as the US spends as much as it does, people who make less than that should not be admitted. Fix government spending, and then we can talk about more liberal immigration policies, not before.
Xenophobia remains a 100% valid point of view as long as "one man one vote" remains.
Deal with it.
You assume an orderly process, presumably passed into law by Congress, and the executive branch administering the law faithfully = Allowing in as many Mexicans who want to work here after an ID check at the border is not “open borders” in any sense of the word.
Start with an orderly process.
"They should be allowed to stay in the United States as long as they support themselves and don’t commit any actual crimes "
But if you're born here you get a free pass.
In the fiscal year ending in September, Border Patrol had 2,045,838 encounters with unlawful border crossers
Need far more drill down on the nature of these encounters.
How many were 'pull my finger'?
How many were 'see! made you blink'?
How many were 'say hello to my little friend'?
How many where given a court date 10 years from now and a bus ticket to a US city of their choice?
And how many got across the border without an encounter?
Oh, we're doing this again.
Its funny how Israel didn't think their boder with Palestine was like it was - until they found out it was even though they didn't think it was.
We live bordering a country where criminal gangs control large amounts of territory adjacent to that border and murder more people in that region than are murdered in the whole US every year.
Isn't this the 2nd Reason article telling us we have nothing to fear from millions of people illegally entering the US from cultures like this:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/02/jalisco-cartel-mexico-rise-guadalajara
The solution to millions of people immigrating to the US illegally every year is to legalize them. See how simple things can be when you're not blinded by racism and xenophobia?
The solution to millions of people immigrating to the US illegally every year is to
legalizeexpel them.The solution to high murder rates is to legalize murder.
Easy peasy.
The way to fix high rape rates is to legalize rape.
Simple.
The way to fix high theft/shoplifting rates is to legalize both....oh wait, large cities HAVE done that and it does not seem to have been super effective.
MWAocdoc, are you really that vacuous or just trolling people with stupid comments? Not that one is better than the other.
30 million illegals reveals a lot about the US border, or rather the lack of it.
Another rousing meeting of Libertarians For Authoritarian, Bigoted, and Cruel Immigration Policies and Practices, convened by a bunch of disaffected right-wingers masquerading as libertarians as they await replacement. By their betters.
Yawn.
I testified in front of Congress last month that the chance of terrorists illegally crossing the U.S.-Mexico border is small.
So what?
Let's suppose someone puts a “small” amount of ricin in your drinks and meals every day. How much is acceptable to you?
Or would you rather have none?
If I were in Homeland Security, I'd be more worried about the northern border than the southern border. Canada has lax immigration controls, and the Canadian-US border is almost completely unpatrolled if you get off the highways.
This is hilarious.
The migrants started pouring in since the late Obama years, even before the pandemic. They’re not merely large influx of illegal immigrants. They come in as caravans, claiming asylum as backdoor entry to the nation. The notion that they’re market response to labor shortages is pure fantasy. If there was no labor shortage, all these people would have stayed home?
Yes, countries below the nation’s borders aren’t terrorist. Meaning the migrants are NOT refugees. You finally get it! They’re not under systemic persecution. Did it finally strike you as odd that we likely have 10 times the South American “refugees” than Ukrainians, people who are actually fleeing from war?
Who wants to tell Reason why Hamas can’t illegally cross into Israel to commit terrorism? Whereas terrorists can come here on work visas and stay after they expire?
You don’t leave your borders unprotected, period. Most gun owners aren’t criminals. That doesn’t mean they shouldn’t go through background checks before purchasing guns. If a million people come in unverified and 20 of them killed Americans, an injustice has been committed. Terrorism is a worst case scenario.
And after any significant terrorism abroad, the nation’s defense and intelligence has to kick into overdrive. They can’t say “Well past trends indicate Hamas attack is unlikely, so let’s do nothing” Who does this? Even Biden admin is warning that terrorists may enter through our borders.
Most gun owners aren’t criminals. That doesn’t mean they shouldn’t go through background checks before purchasing guns.
Poor comparison. American citizens shouldn't have to ask the government permission to exercise a right, especially a right that implies toppling the same government when it gets too abusive.
Immigration to another country is a privilege, not a right.
"Most of those TSDB hits are likely Colombian former members of revolutionary drug dealing groups like FARC that terrorized Colombia but have never attempted an attack in the United States."
Gee, I feel so much better now, knowing those guys are *only* narco-criminals and "revolutionaries". I'm sure they will get a nice button-down 9-5, pay their taxes, and never cause any problems ever again once they are in the US.
I'm really not sure that the number of encounters at ports of entry or whatever watchlist the regime creates is relevant here. Hezbollah has had an organised, documented presence in Mexico for well over a decade. Since the beginning of the Biden regime well over a million "gottaways" have been observed and probably that many more were not observed. I don't know if Hezbollah has had an interest in committing terrorism in the US in the past. But in the current circumstances they have made clear that if the US enters the war in Gaza they will retaliate. We don't know if there are terrorists in the US waiting for the order to act. But they certainly have had ample opportunity to set up shop.
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