Nobody Knows Who Attacked the Hospital
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Hospital explosion: Yesterday, the al-Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza City was struck in the single deadliest day of violence since October 7. Hundreds of people have allegedly died, with some estimates claiming as many as 500, though it is hard to confirm the exact toll at this stage. The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) says it was an accidental explosion by the group Islamic Jihad; the terrorist group says the IDF is deflecting blame and is actually responsible for the attack.
The IDF "was not firing in the area, Israeli military spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari said," reports the Associated Press. Per Hagari, "Israeli radar confirmed a rocket barrage fired by the Palestinian militant group Islamic Jihad from a nearby cemetery at that time of the blast, around 6:59 p.m."
"The misfired rocket hit the parking lot outside the hospital. Were it an airstrike, there would have been a crater there; instead, the fiery blast came from the misfired rocket's warhead and its unspent propellant," said the IDF spokesperson.
"We were operating in the hospital, there was a strong explosion, and the ceiling fell on the operating room. This is a massacre," said Dr. Ghassan Abu Sittah, a London-based doctor who traveled to Gaza and was at the hospital during the attack.
Paralyzed: "Life in Gaza is paralyzed, with all institutions and private sectors closed, affecting the people's access to basic needs, particularly health," the hospital's director, Suhaila Tarazi, wrote last week, in a plea for help after fighting in the region started on October 7 following Hamas' single-day massacre of 1,300 Israelis, including civilians.
The primary concern is, of course, the many innocent people who were slaughtered in the hospital attack, and the fact that Gaza's hospital capacity is further crippled. "If someone doesn't die from the bombardment, then he'll die from the lack of medical service," said the director of Al Shifa Hospital (which is likely to run out of fuel to power generators today) several days ago. Death tolls will rise. Speculation abounds as to who carried out the attack. But the response around the world makes clear that things are about to get worse.
Protests in the West Bank, Turkey, Jordan, Lebanon, Morocco, Tunisia, Iran, and Iraq: At least "half a dozen cities in Iran" have experienced demonstrations in response to the hospital attack. "There is the sense that this was something catastrophic," says Al Jazeera correspondent Dorsa Jabbari.
In Istanbul, protesters tried to enter the Israeli consulate and set things on fire outside of it. In Jordan, where protests erupted and demonstrators tried to storm Amman's Israeli embassy, President Joe Biden's visit—planned to happen within the next few days—was called off. (Biden just landed in Israel a few hours ago, where he has been meeting with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.)
In Beirut, protesters reportedly threw Molotov cocktails at the U.S. embassy, which started a fire. Family members of embassy personnel and non-essential staff are being given the option to leave Lebanon. Hezbollah, which has been striking Israel from the north, called for "a day of unprecedented anger" in Beirut in response to the hospital explosion.
American journalists think they're on the case: "No Palestinian rocket can cause the carnage & mass death we saw in that hospital," wrote Gaza Fights for Freedom director Abby Martin on Twitter/X. "Israel warned evacuation before bombing it. Officials gloated about it before denying. Shame on all media stenographers repeating Israel's lies to deflect the perpetrator of this egregious war crime."
"If in fact it's confirmed that the Israeli military lied about bombing a hospital today then that fact should be included in every story they are quoted in from now on to give readers the ability to judge their trustworthiness as a source," wrote journalist Hamilton Nolan. (The reverse is true as well, but not mentioned.) One Los Angeles Times reporter even got the Hamas vs. Islamic Jihad distinction wrong in the process of claiming that "the burden is on Israel to demonstrate its extraordinary claim that a Hamas rocket—which usually kills maybe one at a time—somehow leveled a hospital."
Major news organizations were initially quick to run with the Hamas description of events and blame before, in many cases, changing their headlines to be less credulous. Biden, on the other hand, was quick to endorse the IDF explanation. Some journalists have offered useful context about past Israeli military denials, without jumping to the conclusion that this is necessarily a case of that. The fact of the matter is that we don't know right now and anyone claiming to know with certainty at this stage is probably incorrect. More details will likely emerge over the next few days.
Scenes from New York: Jewish city councilwoman Inna Vernikov, who represents Brooklyn's Brighton Beach, West Brighton Beach, Manhattan Beach, Gravesend, Midwood, and Sheepshead Bay, was arrested for carrying a gun at a pro-Palestine rally.
Vernikov's only "crime" was being seen "with the butt-end of a firearm protruding from the front portion of her pants" according to police sources and The New York Post. She did not brandish or otherwise use the gun. In fact, the Ukrainian-born councilwoman has long been a supporter of gun rights and even has a concealed carry permit. Still, it is illegal to carry in certain places in New York, like protests and school grounds. She turned herself in and "was booked later Friday on a Class E felony … which can carry up to two to five years behind bars," per the Post.
In my opinion, we actually need more cool Eastern European ladies who carry, not fewer.
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Nobody Knows Who Attacked the Hospital
Why, my ideological enemies did, of course!
Almost certainly a misfired Palestinian rocket.
Video shows a rocket failing, and one second later an explosion.
You'd have to believe Israel dropped one bomb, just one, in the area that happened to miraculously hit at the exact same moment in the exact same place the failed rocket would.
Now photos come out showing a burned out parking lot, intact buildings, and no craters.
In the end it doesn't really matter that much though, because the whole Arab world and half of everyone else thinks Israel bombed a hospital.
So a bunch of embassies were overrun last night, which is always such a good sign...
https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1714626034870399322?t=oMYeFZmpFVC_thwAwr4lCA&s=19
Even anti-Israel sources are now admitting it was a failed missile launch from Gaza.
So was the entire story fake? No hospital was hit? It was the parking lot? I guess we have to question even the number of reported "deaths" then also.
All of the legacy news media reported that a hospital was hit, Israel did it and 500 died ... but it was just a parking lot? But now they have Muslims rioting all over the world and attacking Europeans ... over a fake story where no hospital was destroyed, only a parking lot?
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A lot of people look like lying fools = those last evening who were so quick to denounce Israel; w/o knowing what actually happened. Which was Hamas managing to kill their own human shields.
A lot of people have looked like lying fools for years.
It doesn't matter.
You understand how humans work, right? Emote first, and consider objective data never.
"No Palestinian rocket can cause the carnage & mass death we saw in that hospital," wrote Gaza Fights for Freedom director Abby Martin on Twitter/X.
But this sounded like such an impartial source!
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It is common for muslims leaders to lie about kids being killed by Israeli air strikes. They often make it up completely. They understand their followers are mindless animals who will rage at the ‘injustice’ foist upon them.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Lebanon_War_photographs_controversies
Some might says this was the plan all along. Get Israel to strike back and flood the world with images, real or fake, of the 'massacre' and create a whole world uprising of the faithful now that they have infested every 1st world country.
Muslims are the only culture that can die multiple times in their lives.
Chicago wants to know how many votes each one gets.
You add 2 for every death.
And Time Lords. Unfortunately, Muslims are the ones who aren’t fictional.
Both sides lie constantly (have we forgotten the baby beheading fantasy already).
There will be more lying. It is what it is.
People should learn not to react emotionally to every story that comes out, but they won't.
Baby beheading was real. They have photos and evidence. The question on if 40 was the only question.
Sure it was
It was.
That's why Ben Shapiro is posting pictures of a charred something he claims is a baby as proof of all the beheaded children.
I have no doubt Hamas did some horrible things to women and children. I also have no doubt the Israelis and media spread false atrocity porn.
Ben Shapiro isn't the only one who has pictures.
The reports were people shot in the back including babies, many set on fire, and some beheaded.
Multiple journalists have confirmed all 3. Not just Shapiro. Shapiro was showing a body burned. Showing X does not disprove Y.
Not sure why you're so insistent here. It doesn't force anyone into a war. But hiding atrocities through denial despite confirmation is nearly as bad as lying about them.
The report was they found 40 beheaded babies.
No pictures of that have been produced because it didn't happen.
It was a lie.
It was a Ghost of Kiev story.
That actually wasn't the report. That was two separate reports getting conflated by other people and then once the conflated claim was disproved, that was used to claim that the original two events didn't happen either.
^ correct.
The 40 is the number being used to dispute the rest as I stated in my original post.
"That actually wasn’t the report. That was two separate reports getting conflated by other people"
So it wasn't the report, it was one of the reports...
Yes. There was a report of beheaded babies. There was a report of 40 dead children. These two reports were then conflated by third parties, and the debunking of the conflated story was used to discredit both original stories.
I'm sorry I didn't spell it all the way out for you originally. I recall you not needing that sort of hand holding. Perhaps I misremembered.
Moving on…….
Some might says this was the plan all along. Get Israel to strike back and flood the world with images, real or fake, of the ‘massacre’ and create a whole world uprising of the faithful now that they have infested every 1st world country.
Don't forget about the massive influx of humanitarian aid money that will go to line the pockets of their so called leaders (and pay to restock their rockets and other ammo supplies).
What else could it have been? The entire Hamas offensive had zero military purpose, which means that it could only have been undertaken for political or propaganda purposes. I don't know if they also planned the "hospital massacre" or just took advantage of it, but it fits perfectly with the likely overall strategy.
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The corporate press is the enemy of the people.
I think that has been well established by now… All that remains is to correctly identify them as and rename them propogandists
Israel did it and 500 died … but it was just a parking lot?
Easily explained: all of the cars in the parking were clown cars with about 20 people crammed into each one. QED.
I think you mean because of Israeli oppression Gazans have to carpool and sleep in their cars in parking lots 20 to a car.
Your first time encountering the magical world of Pallywood and the 'facts' being reported by the Palestinian Health Ministry?
They have a long, long history of manipulating (and outright faking) imagery to make Israel look bad. I would wager 98% of the pro-Palestinian media knows this but simply don't care...
It doesn't help, of course, that Israel is usually quite bad on its own.
Odd then that Palestinians resort to so much lying and manipulating, rather than just reporting how "quite bad Israel is on its own". Israel is not allowed to fight back. Hamas slaughters babies, shoots from schools, but oh that evil Israel, daring to shoot back. Those nasty evil Jews.
The Hands up, don't shoot pivotal moment for the Muslim world.
It's not like we don't have thirty years of news articles about Hamas using hospitals as weapons caches and makeshift headquarters.
Had Hamas not killed, raped, and kidnapped over 1400 peaceful civilians, all those people would still be going about their lives.
300+ of those "peaceful civilians" were IDF another 20-30 were cops.
So?
And what of the other 1000+? Is there some point to your minutia?
That we should be only 78.57% percent as outraged as we originally were?
SIV fucks chickens, so... moderate your caring accordingly.
You're discounting 1000 peaceful civilians - its ok they were murdered because a tiny handful of military were also killed?
Keep in mind that cops are civilians too and thus not 'military targets' either.
Joking aside, does it even matter anymore, really?
And I'm not saying that to be flip, I'm actually quite serious. Regardless of who actually did it, Israel's lost control of the media narrative here in no small part because Binny's dumbass aide, Hanyana Naftali, initially claimed that there were terrorists in the hospital and that Israel had, in fact, bombed the hospital.
It wouldn't have taken any effort at all to just say, "We are aware of an explosion at this hospital and are investigating," THEN come out with the "here's the evidence we didn't do it, the Palis bombed their own people" later on. Instead, they're having to try and do damage control, but it's too late now. SA's calling off their Abraham Accord agreement, Jordan and Egypt are calling this a war crime, and Iran's looking like it's in the catbird seat now because they're full on supporting the Palis.
Short of Iran launching a ballistic missile with a nuke at Tel Aviv, Israel's going to be trying to figure out how to extricate itself now with even a sliver of its reputation intact. They got surprised by a bunch of paraglide enthusiasts despite having what is supposed to be one of the best intel and surveillance agencies on the planet, couldn't coordinate a response for three days, went ham, and now they have this incident hanging over their head. Again, it doesn't matter whether they actually bombed the hospital or not-- social media has determined they are guilty, and that's the perception that is being spread now. So unless Biden's puppets can figure out a way to turn the dial way back quickly--which isn't a given because they don't control Twatter anymore to the brazen extent they used to--Israel's reputation is fucked. You can't be the chad of the region and allow a four-foot dwarf to knock you on your ass.
It's an absolute debacle for Israel.
They're screwed now. Don't have the capability to simply win a war like they did in the past.
They went hysterical over the initial attack and idiotically promised invasion, which they absolutely cannot undertake because Hezbollah will crush them in the north.
They left themselves no room to walk anything back.
Hezbollah is not capable of crushing much of anybody anywhere.
Hezbollah has been blowing up Israel tanks and outposts all week
Israel can, and should, carpet bomb them out of existence then take the land and salt it.
The Jordanians in the area have shown they cannot be trusted. If Iran wants to bitch, let them.
Dealing with Hezbollah is the route the US will take in joining this war.
Maybe we can put a peacekeeping force there, made up of marines.
I can’t possibly see what could go wrong…
Should we not let them carry live ammo too?
Do we have any left?
To be clear, I'm actually comfortable with the "carpet bombing" plan. I'd prefer to save Marine lives at the expense of Chair Force budget.
A meeting of iranian officials shows the attack on Israel was done to disrupt normalization with SA and Israel.
Joking aside, it never mattered, at least as far as public opinions. Humans react much as chimps do, and "decide" right and wrong based on emotions and tribal biases. Information sharing mostly comes from and goes to the gut. Truthiness is much more desired than truth.
SA’s calling off their Abraham Accord agreement, Jordan and Egypt are calling this a war crime, and Iran’s looking like it’s in the catbird seat now
Which was/is, in all probability, the goal all along. The last thing Iran wants is for other Muslim majority nations, particularly Sunni Muslim nations and least of all SA, to normalize relations with Israel. It's amazing to me how few people see this. I'm not even an expert on foreign policy in general or the fucked up rat's nest of relationships and historical grievances that seem to dominate the foreign policy of the middle east, but for fuck's sake, it's not that hard to figure out what's happening.
Q: Who benefits from a deadly attack on innocent Gazan people?
A: Hamas
Q: Who has most recently murdered innocent people, thus proving that killing innocent people is no impediment?
A: Hamas
Q: In light of these facts, is it safe to presume that Hamas is responsible for the attack on the Baptist hospital?
A: Yes
Er, Islamic Jihad...
Nobody knows? Use logic.
Israel had no reason to intentionally target a hospital. The last thing they want is more international condemnation for their invasion.
Hamas may have done it intentionally, so they could blame Israel. That may be even too evil for them, but apparently they had no concern for their fellow Palestinians when they launched a horrific terror attack that would undoubtedly draw a massive military response from Israel.
But more likely it was an accident or a mistake, a misfire or a faulty targeting system. Since Israel has the best missiles the US can provide, and Hamas/Hezbollah/Syria/Lebanon buy theirs from Rockets 'R' Us, you do the math.
Life in Gaza is paralyzed, with all institutions and private sectors closed, affecting the people's access to basic needs, particularly health...
If only people had masked up.
It was probably the low jab rate among Palestinians. If it can prevent hurricanes and lower car crash fatalities, why couldn't it prevent violence as well.
The more jabs, the more lives saved. Eventually you reach the point where you start to save more lives than are being lost. Then you've got real problems. Mines to put around cemeteries ain't cheap, but how else are you going to keep the living dead where they belong?
Israel is just taking two weeks to flatten the curve and sort the "with COVIDs" from the "of COVIDs".
The female sex already was masked up, whether they wanted it or not.
Maybe Hamas should have thought of that.
(Biden just landed in Israel a few hours ago, where he has been meeting with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.)
(Hasn't Bibi suffered enough?)
War is over!
I hope some Israeli takes a second to bitch-slap the Vegetable in Chief for the total failure of deterrence that his incapacity has brought us. This is not the time for Jimmy Carter 2.0.
-jcr
"...This is not the time for Jimmy Carter 2.0."
Droolin' Joe can only wish...
Can we try and not crash the rescue helicopter into the desert this time during the Rube-Goldberg, pull it out of our ass, rescue plan?
And if we redo the 80s, I'm okay with that. Some great music, great movies, Oregon Trail (Jebediah died of dysentery) but can we skip parachute pants, and the hair this time (I'm getting a bit to thin on top to regrow the mullet)?
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Major news organizations were initially quick to run with the Hamas description of events and blame before, in many cases, changing their headlines to be less credulous.
They got the narrative out there, and that's all that counts.
(The narrative being that they have no credibility left.)
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They made me pay double for the closing paren.
Too many of those used for smile emojis.
Need more sadness. 🙁
Biden is working on that.
(But wait, there's more!)
Still, it is illegal to carry in certain places in New York, like protests and school grounds.
Guess it turns out that prohibition wasn't ruled overbroad after all?
The patriarchy strikes again.
You know where else Jews were deprived of arms?
At a Def Leppard concert?
Is this a one armed drummer joke?
Yes. And I see I nailed it since you had to ask.
A Hasidic leper colony?
The body of the article kind of says we know who hit the hospital... who wrote the misleading headline?
There is the video of the barrage and explosion.
There is even audio of Hamas talking about it.
https://justthenews.com/government/security/hamas-terrorist-says-hospital-hit-local-shrapnel-and-not-israeli-intercepted
I know, I wondered about that, too. It is not like the IDF hasn't provided photographic and signals proof.
I don't trust the IDF any more than I trust Hamas.
What I do trust are my own eyes and simple logic.
The video used by pro Palestinians shows a rocket misfiring and an explosion one second later. It doesn't show any aircraft, it doesn't show a barrage of falling bombs.
So we're supposed to believe in the most remarkable of coincidences to maintain Israeli responsibility.
Just doesn't add up.
The Al jezeera video of the same launch shows a piece clearly fall off and into. There’s a ton of evidence on Israel’s side here at this point.
Thread showing last night's protests around the world.
You know who else wanted to get rid of the Jews and was leftwing?
Stalin?
Misek?
The Squad?
SBP?
Randal?
Soros?
Henry Ford?
Sandy Koufax?... oh wait, he was a left-handed Jew.
left arm of God.
Ellen Ripley?
nuke Israel from orbit?
It's the only way to be sure.
Hitler?
Hey now!
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Harvard student body president?
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Queers for Palestine?
Akhnaten?
Margaret Sanger?
The Democratic Socialists of America?
Bernie Sanders?
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Kosher lard?
Titus?
Did I leave the iron on?
King Ferdinand?
Bill Kristol takes a page out of sarcs playbook and infers Biden respects and recognizes the constitution. Ex Reason staffer Harsanyi weighs in.
David Harsanyi
@davidharsanyi
Other than Article I and III, the 1st, 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 10th amendments, Biden is pro Constitution.
https://twitter.com/davidharsanyi/status/1714267588241305776
The Biden administration admires and respects all the bits that don't get in their way.
I just find it hilarious that Sarc was crying about being called a neocon and him and Kristol have the same talking points.
Sarc's been eating what White Mike feeds him.
And drinking a shit-ton of bottom shelf liquor.
Yesterday I asked why the DOJ would want to cover up what the 1/6ers actually did wrong and he called it whataboutism.
The poor soul doesn't realize that it's accusations of whataboutism that are strategic framing and have a framing effect. It's an attempt at manipulation and serves the motive of discrediting.
In many contexts whataboutism can provide necessary context into whether or not a particular line of critique is relevant or fair.
Sarc, however, likes flinging magic words he doesn't really understand like stones to chase away challenges to his rhetoric.
He thinks if he invokes magic words like "ad hominem, tu quoque, whataboutism", it grants him an instant and effortless win, and he doesn't have to actually think about the accusation.
He has been screaming whataboutism when the basis of the claim is disparate treatment which requires showing disparate actions against 2 groups. It has been utterly amazing.
His comment yesterday saying he agreed the J6 people were being wronged through excessive sentences and on the next paragraph disparaging people saying J6 people were being wronged was hilarious.
His comment yesterday saying he agreed the J6 people were being wronged through excessive sentences
Yeah…
and on the next paragraph disparaging people saying J6 people were being wronged was hilarious.
No, I’m disparaging people like you who claim that being wronged excuses their wrongs.
Go away. We’re busy talking about what a moron you are. You’re also a huge, cowardly pussy.
I would love this citation of my comments sarc. Because it is never what I nor anyone here you hate has said.
And I can even tell you which threads show you are lying here.
I maintain that screaming “whataboutism” like it’s some kind of talisman is the purview of people who don’t want to discuss the merits of the counter example and how it shines a light on their own hypocrisy.
Pruno is a hell of a tipple.
One time I went to a pub in Bumfuck Canada, and Mother’s Lament was behind the bar. As I walked in he asked “Did you see that fence outside?” I nodded. He said “It’s a nice fence isn’t it? Nice and straight.” I nodded again. He said “Do they call me ML the fence builder? Noooooo.”
So I ordered a Guinness. ML slid a pint in my direction and asked “Is that a perfect pour or what?” I nodded again. He said “Do they call me ML the Guinness pourer? Noooo. But you fuck one moose…”
You’ve told this joke before sqrlsy.
It was "Sqrlsy" that time, wasn't it.
Can’t wait for him to get shitfaced enough to copypaste his Tim the Enchanter bullshit under his Sarcasmic handle. That might finally end him here.
Already happened and he blamed Tulpa hacking him.
But you fuck one moose
But enough about drunks under bridges in Maine.
ML crossed the border?
Aren't moose endemic to Maine?
Not the entire state. Just the parts close to Canada.
We get the ones escaping Canadian moose-fuckers.
You don't seem to realize I live a hell of a lot closer to California than Maine. In fact I live 2,300 miles away from the Maine border. The only guy here in the vicinity of any freshly-fucked Maine Moose is you, Sarckles.
Wow! Those moose do travel!
I wish your patent dishonesty was hilarious, but it’s not.
Now if you were are remotely honest person, which you are not, you’d have said I mentioned Biden one time said he couldn’t do something because it wasn’t within the powers given to his office by the Constitution. I didn’t say he respects it all the time, just that he gave it lip service one time which is more than Trump ever did. That would be honest.
But of course you’re allergic to honesty so you’d never tell the truth. You’d probably go into anaphylactic shock if something honest crossed your lips.
WHATABOUTISM!
Normally I discourage retards from bragging about being retarded, but in your case I'll just sit back and watch.
You are the walking meme of "i was only pretending to be retarded."
He wasn't pretending.
Were you to drunk yesterday to remember this gem?
https://reason.com/2023/10/17/prosecutors-appeal-proud-boys-prison-sentences-over-january-6-riot/?comments=true#comment-10279731
Pour sarc.
Please. Pour the slimy, lying PoS down the toilet.
The last time you stated I’m lying about Biden constitution comments I posted them and you ran away. Want to see them again?
Rereading your post. You are lying yet again about what you said. Here is what you said.
sarcasmic 2 months ago
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Why wouldn’t there be? Despite all his faults, at least Biden recognizes the Constitution. Can’t say the same about Trump.
This is the second time you've lied about what you said. The comment posted sounds just like neocon Kristol.
Nothing in that statement is about lip service or saying he respects it.
So once again you lie about your prior statements. This is why people bookmark your comments.
Recognize. As in point at and give lip service to.
I did not say respect.
That's your addition.
What fucking dictionary are you using? 2nd day in a row you’ve used incorrect definitions.
You are functionally illiterate.
Is this one of the behaviors you adopted from Jeff?
You can’t ever admit you said something stupid and retract it. You try to rationalize it with new unconnected definitions and what you really meant. Just a retard.
A couple of weeks back you even denied you were promoting style over substance. You deny actions are more important than words. And here you do so again.
You notice a pattern here?
I say abc.
You claim I meant xyz and expect me to defend xyz.
I say no I meant abc.
You say abc means xyz, therefore I need to defend xyz.
I say no I said abc and meant abc.
You call me names and say I'm illiterate and stupid because I refuse to agree that abc meant xyz.
I maintain that I meant what I said, not what you said.
You call me names.
wash, rinse, repeat
Tell us more about tu quoque and gaslighting again, sarc.
Dude, every conversation with that guy involves me refusing to defend his deliberate misinterpretation of what I said, and then him calling me a liar because I "deny" the words he put into my mouth.
What the fuck.
WHATABOUTISM!
Exactly how stupid are you?
Whataboutism would be me saying someone is not guilty of something because of what someone else did. Like when you guys defend the J6 yahoos by bringing up the George Floyd protests, or defend Trump by bringing up something some Democrat did a long time ago.
I'm not defending anything.
Just saying that JesseAz follows a pattern of accusing me of saying things I didn't say, expecting me to defend those things I didn't say, and finally calling me a liar for refusing to "admit" to saying those things I didn't say.
I’ll ask again sarc, were you to drunk yesterday to remember posting this?
https://reason.com/2023/10/17/prosecutors-appeal-proud-boys-prison-sentences-over-january-6-riot/?comments=true#comment-10279731
Sarc. I literally post your old statements while you lie about what you said. Who is misrepresenting here retard?
Awe, pour sarc ran away.
I literally post your old statements while you lie about what you said.
You post things out of context and claim they mean things they didn't mean. I'm not the liar here.
And what's the fucking point anyway? You having a conversation with me or with your interpretations of my past comments?
Live in the present for a change, asshole.
How the fuck is posting your entire comment out of context you retarded fuck?
Stop saying stupid shit. The solution is simple.
I'm not interpreting your post retard. I'm posting it word for fuckinh word.
The dishonesty you display is utterly contemptible.
And other than coordinating or brow-beating social media companies to project the messages the DNC wants, Biden is pro-"democratic capitalism."
Anyway, it's nice to see Kristol finally come around and admit that the neocons are full-fledged Democrats now. I fully expect other members of the center right like The Dispatch crowd to follow suit soon.
Maybe Nikki Haley can get on the dem ticket.
Pro iconoclasm
Pro Disney
Pro war
Pro refugees
Meets all the criteria.
Flexible on abortion, too, and I'm not even joking. On her stop in Iowa, this is what she called a "firm stance":
“If it’s six weeks, that’s great. If it’s 15 weeks, that’s great. If it’s 20 weeks … it’s going further than what we want, but guess what? We’ll save more babies that way.”
Way to plant your flag, there, Nikki!
LOL
Somehow even squishier than mittens
Other than Article I and III, the 1st, 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 10th amendments, Biden is pro Constitution.
LOL
The fact that he's never personally forced anyone to quarter troops in their own home during peacetime practically makes him a Goddamned American Constitutional Hero.
Jim Jordan is "the perfect speaker for a policy-free GOP..."
So suddenly spending like crazy while pretending not to is not a policy.
Libertarians: gov should do less, have less policies
Reason: why doesn't the GOP have more polices about what the gov should do like the dems?
Teen Reason is really making old Reason look like a completely different magazine.
Dem school board member in Virginia objects to moment of silence for Israeli victims.
https://thefederalist.com/2023/10/18/fairfax-school-board-member-objects-to-moment-of-silence-for-israeli-victims/
The photo is quite explanatory.
Exactly. They are drawing the lines for the rest of us.
She represents the 5th column.
Take the rag off your head, lady.
Wait, I thought lady rags are supposed to be a human right?
Off topic and Sevo's right, but its only been a 150 years here in the West since plebian women stopped wearing headscarves and moved to hats.
While some of the headscarf/cap wearing was religious, realistically it's because it's the only way to keep hair somewhat clean in an environment where you can't frequently wash it. The switch to hats coincided pretty closely with switch to dependable water sources.
The rag on her head was why she was elected to the school board.
FTX and the use of customer funds for political donations.
I don't think we're allowed to discuss this.
As long as you aren’t on Trump’s team, you can.
As long as you boaf sides it including the much less contributions to GOPe members like McConnel, you're good.
If you use the heuristic, Hamas Lies about Israel, it wasn't Israel.
If you use the heuristic, the first headline in liberal newspaper is wrong about Israel, then it wasn't Israel.
...pledging to give literally $1 annually if she "find[s] employment elsewhere" and the school's trustees "grows the backbone" needed "to fulfill its mission."
The sole impactful mission of university presidents is to fund raise. Hopeful this kind of thing takes off.
https://twitter.com/17cShyteposter/status/1714550164562874850?t=cAv2rAv32ec2Bs7AyFlXcA&s=19
It's rare that you get to see a leftist's internal struggle session in real time, but here it is
It's okay, Ben. This is exactly how I was feeling a decade ago when they started to talk about white men this exact way
You just have to understand that they mean it about you too
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Another beauty from Dreyfus from October 10th of last year:
Ben Dreyfuss
@bendreyfuss
The actual audio of this—as someone who has struggled with drugs and mental health issues and received calls like this from my family—just sort of almost made me cry
Yeah, I'm absolutely gobsmacked that a hysterical shitlib like Ben has had "drug and mental health issues." Seems like a feature of left-wing upper class these days.
If the scientific establishment do not stand up and say "a lab leak is plausible in this case, we need to investigate and learn lessons about which research projects were unwise", then the world…
The damage is done. There's no regaining it. Virology, like other areas of public health, is now suspect and forever will be.
It will take 100 years to regain the trust that they had a decade ago.
They shouldn't have the trust originally after climate alarmism, reproducibility crisis, p value hunting, etc.
Well yes, but I was talking mainly about the general public's trust in the medical profession and public health groups.
It’s just a crazy conspiracy theory!
Western Science has decided to follow in Lysenko's footsteps.
Western Science got out in front of Lysenko's footsteps two weeks ago.
https://twitter.com/Oilfield_Rando/status/1714438284678512694?t=dM2fRg-rREwfFfAj-vhEag&s=19
Remember when things were so much better that the biggest worry of the day was that the President was gonna tweet something mean?
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Or start WWIII
Droning an Iranian terrorist got us three Reason WWIII articles.
Which is far closer to actually happening now, but hey, no more mean Tweets! Adults back in charge!
Ironic.
But he had TWO scoops of ice cream! TWO SCOOPS! Nobody needs that.
Remember when things were so much better that the biggest worry of the day was that the President was gonna tweet something mean?
I remember when things were so bad oil plunged below 0.00/bbl, 30 million jobs were lost in a month, and the economy almost shut down.
#HowQuicklyWingnutsForget
By governors. And local politicians. Democrats doing so far longer.
And yet even when we had a game show host in the White House and a pandemic and lockdowns, Wall Street still didn't do as bad as in year 2 of #Bidenomics.
Stocks fall to end Wall Street’s worst year since 2008, S&P 500 finishes 2022 down nearly 20%
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
"remember when things were so bad oil plunged below 0.00/bbl, 30 million jobs were lost in a month, and the economy almost shut down.
#HowQuicklyWingnutsForget"
Did Trump do that or Democratic governors, Shrike?
#ButtplugCouldn'tTrickAToddler
#That'sWhyHeJustSnatchesThem
Hahahahahaha, goddamn man, can you at least try to be less transparent with your Dem shillery.
He cannot.
Biden sends Blinken to smooth over things and he is rejected by every Arab leader. Biden goes and also gets the cold shoulder. The President of the US is snubbed by third world dictators. Glad the adults are back in charge.
How long before China makes a move on Taiwan?
Sometime before 2030. If they don't, the demographics start to work massively against China making any move. They won't have enough younger people to 1) support the mission, and 2) support the retirees.
By this time next year.
We'll see how badly this comment ages (hopefully very poorly, but who knows).
Do worry. We can afford a third war.
Do I hear four? Four? Anyone willing to go to four wars?
You thinking N. Korea finally makes a move?
afford
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Taiwan has a spoilsport option. They can take out the three gorges dam.
Xi never gave a rat's ass about the lives of his billion and a half hostages, but losing the 80% of China's agriculture that would be inundated might be enough for what's left of the Han people to finally give him the Ceacescu treatment he's been begging for since he seized power.
-jcr
"...The President of the US is snubbed by third world dictators..."
First-world leaders are too 'polite' to snub droolin' Joe.
Family members of embassy personnel and non-essential staff are being given the option to leave Lebanon
I’d GTFO of there, and leave something special behind for the fuckers to find at the embassy to help facilitate their “Day of Rage”
Poop smeared Koran?
Piss Mohammad?
IED?
(Although I do understand the reflex to go with poop and pee.)
Why not an IED that includes human waste?
I was thinking more along the lines of "Piss Christ", but a bit more edgy given how Muslims don't much care for images of Mohammad.
Only if it's pig shit.
VineSight, a Tel Aviv-based tech company with offices in New York, relies on artificial intelligence (AI) to scan the internet for “toxic narratives” and “misinformation.” A thorough examination of the company’s recent reports, however, reveals so-called “toxic narratives” and “misinformation” are synonymous with conservative arguments and inconvenient truths.
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The company’s report on clean energy, for example, highlights a post from a “bot-like” account as misinformation that reads, “China emits the most CO2.” The statement, however, is verifiably true. China is by far the world’s largest producer of carbon dioxide emissions on the planet and has been for almost two decades.
https://thefederalist.com/2023/10/18/censorship-ally-vinesight-flags-true-social-media-posts-as-toxic-misinformation/
Are you trying to make me support Hamas?
This won't do it but there is only so much one can take before deciding turning the whole region to glass is really the only option.
I had to both sides it this morning.
there is only so much one can take before deciding turning the whole region to glass is really the only option.
Elon can't get that Mars colony set up fast enough at this point.
If only for the fact that one nutso Palestinian reducing the population of the entire colony to zero will be sooo satisfying.
[Dusts off hands] Sure was a snap getting past *that* humanitarian crisis!
I said the other day that Tel Aviv is basically San Francisco or Portland without the homeless encampments and poo in the streets.
I dunno man, bums and poop are pretty defining characteristics of SF and Portland. One can find retarded ideology anywhere.
For example, take Chicago...
No, really, take Chicago.
But liberals just got done telling us how bad Amy Coney Barrett is….
To be fair, objectively looking at her record would not have served any useful purpose at the time.
Without a degree in Supreme Court Lawology, you wouldn't be able to make heads nor tails of it anyway. "Heads nor tails" is that right? [checks biology textbook] Yeah, without a Lawology degree you wouldn't be able to make "heads nor tails" of Supreme Court ethics.
...Congress must not cut federal funding to colleges that refuse to punish students for their statements justifying, and in some instances celebrating, the horrific violence against Israeli citizens.
Agreed. Cut funding to all of them because we can't fucking afford it and because college isn't the right path for the majority who take it.
And because they fundamentally fail at their stated purpose. And because they act as indoctrination camps for post-modetnist marxist dogma destroying society.
they act as indoctrination camps for post-modetnist marxist dogma destroying society.
It would be interesting to see how quickly all that shit stops if the federal gravy train is stopped (obviously, would also have to stop the federally backed student loan spigot as well).
F bombs from fist?
I just don’t know which way is up anymore….
There's basically no doubt anymore, as of this morning. It's settled.
Probably 30-50 people, total, were killed when an Islamic Jihad rocket misfired and broke up midair. The totality of the clear and compelling evidence from independent parties is overwhelming. Anyone still claiming an Israeli munition blew up the hospital in Gaza is actively participating in a disinformation campaign. Between the videos, the phone call, the satellite tracking, Al Jazeera'a own livestream, the crater analysis, the intelligence reports from multiple nations, the geo tracking, the chemistry and explosive analysis, the statements of the involved parties and the circumstances of their delivery, and the lack of a shred of compelling contradictory evidence, there's simply no room for reasonable doubt. Only highly motivated reasoning or outright lies.
Evidence is so overwhelming even Keith Olbermann retracted.
The steak I ate last week is more intelligent than Keith.
Is that asshole still posting his hate? I thought Riley Gaines put him in his pathetic boomer place pretty well.
Jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams?
Lighter fuel doesn't melt chicken wire proving 9/11 was an inside job - DailyKos
Fake News = Israel did it
The Arab capacity for self-delusion is truly astounding.
I noticed today, YouTube surfin MSM Gaza stuff on the couch, that theres a strong commie element in the media that ze jews supposedly own. Whether it’s the UN, EU, or DNC it’s taking orders from. And then the British news outlets, holy fuck. They’re commie AND Muslim.
Can we expect all those who protested when they thought Israel was responsible to protest now? Can we expect any of them?
No. They will still blame Israel for making the failed rocket attack necessary.
"The hall monitors at school grew up to become tech journalists"
Kyle Wiggers?
Yikes. Why not use a pen name?
That is the pen name. His real last name is 'Chinks'.
I suspect he's a very niggardly person.
It's nothing to snigger at.
Don't be such a nagger about the man's last name, hey?
Back in my school days a “whigger” was synonymous with a “yo-boy”. Is that still the case? It’s got to be cultural appropriation now.
He could change it to Dingers.
Earlier this year, I shared three words I thought would define Scott's White House bid: “Keep yo’ money” — a reference to the South Carolina Republican's cringeworthy catchphrase he trotted out in 2017 to try to sell then-President Donald Trump’s tax cuts for the rich. The three words, in my view, epitomize a man who appears to feel no shame in using his Blackness to advance right-wing causes.
https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/tim-scott-campaign-super-pac-ads-rcna120860
#KeepYo'Money
#DownLowBro
Keep showing your colors, grand dragon plug.
Slave catcher Pluggo never let's a darkie get away. Even if he has to quote an MSNBC Judas Goat to do it...
Let me guess the pedo has a jacobian article mocking a black Republican?
Yep, from MSDNC.
Why I have him muted, no pint in reading his crap, he clearly stops at the headline
"msnbc.com/the-reidout"
LOL
I know you resent Tim Scott because you're a Southern redneck who hates when black people disobey your commands. Still, has he ever done anything as stupid as invent a story about time-traveling hackers like Joy "Michael Clarke Duncan in a Wig" Reid did?
He's really helping to rid himself of his reputation as a bog standard democrat party NPC by giving us amazing cites from...Mother Jones and Joy fucking Reid lmao.
Jesus christ these clowns. No wonder he is so pig ignorant on anything to do with the economy. Classic democrat. AOC level of econ intelligence.
turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
https://twitter.com/Babygravy9/status/1714631009273024852?t=KZoRrvlpJLDQIo2-2reW6A&s=19
This is such a bizarre juxtaposition: the commander in chief who barely has the strength to raise his head and speak, and the imperial nation pledging it has the will and resources to fight two wars at once, possibly against both of its biggest rivals.
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Jim Jordan is "the perfect speaker for a policy-free GOP,"
Ah, Gridlock, sweet Gridlock.
For once I can say for sure that Washington DC won't be fucking us taxpayers over with more Big Spending like Fatass Donnie and Sleepy Joe are prone to do.
Just keep blundering along - we don't need yo Speaker, GOP.
#GridlockParty
Gridlock wasn't so sweet for you the other day when you inveighed against "Republican grandstanding holding up important house business".
Liar.
Congress is harmless right now. Keep it that way.
#FuckBigGovernmentTrumpism
Said as he constantly shills for every congressional dem candidate.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2 40 mins ago
Liar.
What, did you look in the mirror just now and have a moment of clarity?
"Liar."
If I link to your post saying exactly that do you promise to fuck off?
You can't though.
I did say that appointing an Ambassador to Israel was okay. I already know that your dishonesty will try to wrangle that quote into something it's not.
You said the GOP not approving the Ambassador was causing the conflict and would help the situation. Despite Joe not nominating one for 2.5 years.
Is appointing an Ambassador to Israel important house business?
"I did say that appointing an Ambassador to Israel was okay. I already know that your dishonesty will try to wrangle that quote into something it’s not."
So you did know exactly what I was talking about. Lol.
turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
He welched on bets and didn’t leave when I rubbed his nose in his own shit 13 years ago. What makes you think he’d do it now?
Too bad Chuck and Nancy weren't in gridlock as you defended them constantly as they passed those spending bills with veto proof majorities.
Odd you never mention Mitch and Donnie's big spending handouts.
Who was in the House? Where does spending originate?
And I Blame mitch constantly. Even in this thread.
Mitch and Donnie’s big spending handouts.
Which ones of those weren't conceived, proposed, written and enacted by Chuck and Nancy, Pluggo?
All the ones Fatass Donnie signed (like the CARES Act). All he had to do was tell Mitch to sit on them.
BUT NOOOOOO!
Fatass wanted his name on those stimmy checks.
The TDS-addled turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
You still don't understand how Congress works.
You don't, you fool Trump Cultist.
If the Senate and President don't want a bill to pass then the House cannot "override" the two.
Was the first spending bill unvetoable or not?
How come you always imagine people won't remember some of the biggest shit to go down since 9/11?
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.
The president can veto bills, they can’t force a senate majority leader to not push a bill to vote retard.
Mcconnel is establishment. 3 times Trump said no more spending and McConnel pushed spending.
https://www.npr.org/2018/03/23/596437455/trump-threatens-veto-of-spending-bill
You truly are dumb.
"All the ones Fatass Donnie signed"
Were any of them unvetoable, Pluggo, and did "Donny" refuse to sign any of them? Because I seem to remember that he did.
You're such a snake.
So when the debt rose under Obama when the House was Republican, that was Obama's fault, but when it rose under Trump when the House was Democratic, it was the Democrats' fault.
Be specific. Which years?
And were the bills veto proof or not.
No matter which sock you use you seem incapable of understanding the budgetary process.
Bringing up Obama is especially amusing as he shut down open air parks, spending money on security, to try to force Paul Ryan to approve spending increases. Totally the same as covid spending.
You truly are dumb shrike.
Still not shrike, you lying fuckwit.
"Oh, these two people have some overlapping ideas they must be the same people." Are you MoLa and R_Mac and InsaneTrollLogic?
I said "debt" not "deficit", note, and that rises every year. If memory serves, the only time it didn't since Reagan - the Spender in Chief - was the last year of the Clinton admin. And IIRC none of the bills passed under Trump with veto-proof majorities.
So try again, Bubba.
You should take it as a compliment, oh obnoxiously arrogant piece of lying shit.
Debt increased every year under Clinton shrike. We’ve discussed this as recently as last week.
And I've blamed congress for baseline budgeting for 25 years.
Another amusing response to "did you blame Obama..." it was under Obama that the OMB Director changed the wording of appropriation requests from can spend (meaning up to the value) to shall (meaning they have to spend the full allocation).
Good job picking Obama for the question.
"Are you MoLa and R_Mac and InsaneTrollLogic"
Yes. Check out my new name.
No, that was RINO’s doing what they do best: compromising with shithead democrats so they don’t get called mean names.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
"Pierre Poilievre casually smacks down a left wing journalist while munching on an apple.
Right now he's looking like he might be the antidote to Trudeau. Every short, curt answer destroyed the guys game.
The only question is, how can he become PM? Trudeau needs to go.
Somebody take Castreau ice fishing.
Trudeau has a minority government formed with the NDP socialists. The second the NDP decide to break the alliance off an election will be called.
I love how he pushed back without being abrasive about it. Just ask for examples and the damn reporter couldn't muster up anything except repeat his talking points.
It's such an easy trick in a way, because the current narrative is built on feelings and accusations without a fact in sight. They're so used to steamrolling over people with bullshit that when someone calls them on it, they're lost.
Jordan Peterson does this a lot, and Musk did it with the BBC journalist.
It really does seem like a form of pathological lying. He has a pretty straightforward "Why should people vote for you?" question that he even gets out, but seems pathologically inhibited from asking straightforwardly and has to cache it in his hedging, biased/dishonest B.S.
The shitweasel couldn't even look him in the eye. I don't know how Pierre had the patience to refrain from slapping a bitch.
-jcr
https://twitter.com/RadioGenoa/status/1714523105014563012?t=cj4EgbWNzYCVnpGZFpfBUQ&s=19
Overnight clashes in Berlin between pro-Hamas protesters and German police. In Europe we have a huge problem that needs to be solved now.
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Some kind of final solution?
"Gee, I wonder why no one wants radical refugees from Palestine", pondered the bleeding heart progressive.
The Palestinians in Gaza are the losers here. The Biden Administration has been working to get them some humanitarian relief. Now the Arab streets are inflamed, nearby countries that could help are running for cover. Getting aid will be pushed back till things settle.
Keep up, dude. The Abraham Accords brought everlasting peace to the Middle East.
#TrumpCultBullshit
#SorosBidenDefendingStrawman
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
"The Abraham Accords brought everlasting peace to the Middle East."
Joe even fucked them up. Amazing.
I think the Israeli civilians and tourists at the concert that were raped, murdered, and/or taken hostage are pretty big losers too.
As well as the Israeli families murdered in their homes.
What you said is a given. My comment is directed to the immediate effect and that is to stop any kind of meeting of middle east countries that might assist get humanitarian aid to the Palestinians.
"..."If someone doesn't die from the bombardment, then he'll die from the lack of medical service," said the director of Al Shifa Hospital (which is likely to run out of fuel to power generators today) several days ago..."
Perhaps things would be better if you didn't support those who start such disasters.
Jim Jordan is a shallow, do-nothing, fence-sitting committed ideologue of the far right.
If he releases all of the j6 video he will be the best speeker in the last 20 years
I’m sure Reason is in the Hakeem Jeffries camp
This is what a Soros-backed State's Attorney does.
https://www.chicagocontrarian.com/blog/who-is-chicago-prosecutor-kim-foxx-really
Despite the best efforts of Chicago media to protect the most corrupt prosecutor in the country, Kim Foxx’s malevolence and dark designs for the very system she purportedly represents occasionally sneaks out.
Such was the case recently when the media broke the story a plea deal negotiated by Foxx’s office with an offender tied to murder of one police officer and wounding of another.
On August 7, 2021, Eric Morgan was driving in the Chicago Lawn neighborhood when his car was stopped by Officer Ella French, partner Carlos Yanez and a third officer. All three were members of the Community Safety Team. A struggle ensued and Emonte Morgan, a second occupant of the car and brother to Eric, opened fire on French and Yanez. French was later declared dead and Yanez was critically injured. Eric Morgan fled the scene with the gun used in the shooting but was held by residents.
In his plea deal, Eric Morgan will not be charged with the murder, and instead pleaded to a string of felonies that will put him in prison for seven years.
The murder of Officer Ella French is not the only shooting death of an officer that tarnishes Foxx’s record as prosecutor. The perpetually aggrieved state’s attorney is also under fire for her role in the exoneration of offender Jackie Wilson for his role in the 1982 double murder of two police officers, William P. Fahey and Richard J. O'Brien.
Wilson’s legal victory was an asset for the radical left that has steadily gained in political and legal strength throughout the city and state. The election of Foxx is another grand accomplishment of their movement.
Unbelievably, it gets worse. Foxx is also facing intense criticism for allegedly not responding to a FOIA request seeking information on why Foxx’s office decided to release several convicted killers. One case involves two men convicted for their role in stabbing a couple to death and kidnapping their two children.
Do you get the picture here? Anything remotely tied to criminalizing or legally attacking police officers or those who have represented police officers appears to get the full support of Kim Foxx. Men involved in crimes in which officers are fatally shot or wounded? Foxx’s administration gives them a pass.
To fully grasp how Foxx has artlessly turned her office into a command center for the war on “the system,” one has only to look at the exoneration of Nevest Coleman and Darryl Fulton for the rape and murder of a young woman. Attorneys defending the detectives in the case got on record yet again to state the fact top prosecutors did not believe Coleman and Fulton were innocent or that detectives committed any wrongdoing in investigating the crime. The excuse, then, for not retrying the offenders? Prosecutors lacked the “resources” for a retrial.
One important question emerges: How does Foxx get away with it? The answer is easy enough: Both Foxx and the Chicago media are riding the same ideological bus. Foxx and the media would suffer humiliation beyond measure if the truth about the real inner workings of each saw the light of day, if the public was every truly privy to the mutual machinations of each entity.
In particular, both Foxx and the media cannot allow the public to catch a glimpse of the motives behind their actions. Foxx’s motives are best represented in statements former Black Panther and retired congressman Bobby Rush made in defending Foxx from accusations of corruption in her handling of the Jussie Smollett case when Rush called the Chicago police union “the sworn enemy of black people.”
A former Black Panther defending Foxx and leveling the ridiculous charge an entire fraternal organization harbors a deep prejudice against an entire race puts Foxx’s actions in context, for Foxx’s philosophy and tactics harken back to the grand days of 1970s revolutionary groups like the Black Panthers murdering police and the Weather Underground bombing government buildings, including police stations, all the while extolling the wonders of Marxism.
The newest incarnation of revolutionaries is glossier, more rhetorically sophisticated, better funded, and has burrowed deep into the institutions of what is now a doomed city. The city’s demise is being carefully disguised by the collection of media activists with journalism degrees.
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1714647744030142910?t=fxKocPA4UWfZk95w50jIcA&s=19
JUST IN - Biden announces $100 million in aid for Gaza, West Bank.
Puts me in mind of Putin's comments about US diplomatic failures in the middle east.
"But it's just paving equipment."
"Yes. Gaza parking lot coming up."
(I know he's not going to do that.)
Be nice if it was contingent on getting rid of Hamas.
(I know he's not going to do that either.)
Major news organizations were initially quick to run with the Hamas description of events and blame before, in many cases, changing their headlines to be less credulous.
My comment about this rocket attack yesterday:
One of my favorites was during Iraqi Freedom when CNN was interviewing some woman who claimed American soldiers fired rounds into her hut, nearly missing her and her family. She had dug the rounds out of the wall and was showing the concerned CNN reporter.
Shiny unfired FMJ’s, still in the brass. Google seems to have misplaced the clip.
Vice did that too, but just for a header image on an article
Are we sure CNN didn't give her those rounds? Wasn't it CNN get caught doing cut takes of an 'Ar-15' shredding a concrete block to claim it was more powerful than a bolt action rifle of the same caliber until they got caught faking the footage back in the 1990s?
This article demonstrates the point I have been making till I am blue in the face.
If the scientific establishment do not stand up and say "a lab leak is plausible in this case, we need to investigate and learn lessons about which research projects were unwise", then the world will conclude that all of virology is too risky.
By dismissing it as a conspiracy theory, and refusing to investigate, they have contaminated the reputation of the whole of science. The damage could have been limited to one Chinese lab and its US funders. Instead, the forces of anti-science have been massively boosted.
Guy, the very fucker who funded the research was the asshole gnome running the pandemic response. You're so close here, and yet you can't make that leap.
Nobody Knows Who Attacked the Hospital
Which side has, historically, been fine with atrocity?
Which side has, historically, been known to fake atrocities by the other side for media sympathy?
Which side has been known for taking pains to avoid civilian casualties even to the point of warning of the time and locations of upcoming attacks several hours in advance to allow people time to clear out?
We know who attacked the hospital.
The best you can say about the attackers is that it was caused by their own incompetence and lack of care rather than deliberate.
What does Obama have to do with this?
I'm glad Dubya brought peace and democracy to the Middle East after 9/11. And it only cost us taxpayers $3 trillion!
#RepublicanForeignPolicySucks
Your dude Obama continued it with the same neocons.
#PluggoIsAnIdiot
Even started a bunch of color revolutions in 2011 to facilitate it.
Make that a "...lyingIdiot"
Your dude Obama continued it with the same neocons.
Liar. Obama withdrew from Iraq.
Then killed Bin Laden on the cheap.
O crushed Iran's people with his pen and phone.
The TDS-addled turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Obama withdrew from Iraq.
And then snuck the troops right back in, neocon.
Bullshit.
US combat in Iraq ended in 2011.
Yet somehow 20 soldiers died there Obama’s last year in office, lol.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/263798/american-soldiers-killed-in-iraq/
One of your lefty sources, Pluggo, the WaPo:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/01/11/invaders-allies-occupiers-guests-brief-history-us-military-involvement-iraq/
The United States has faced the drawdown debate before, and in 2011, President Barack Obama withdrew most U.S. troops, only to redeploy some starting in 2014 to fight the Islamic State.
April 18, 2016: Number of U.S. forces rises to around 5,000
Pentagon officials said there were 4,087 troops in Iraq. Analysts estimated that the number was closer to 5,000 when including military personnel guarding diplomatic outposts and waiting to rotate out.
Would you like to go for Double Jeopardy where the scores can really change?
"US combat in Iraq ended in 2011"
You have to be a dumbass to state this unironically.
Well, consider the source. It is Pluggo, after all.
turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
So how were US service members still dying there after 2011? Lots of car crashes?
Good ole right wing Time from 2016...
https://time.com/4298318/iraq-us-troops-barack-obama-mosul-isis/
On Monday, Pentagon officials said the total U.S. troop presence in Iraq would grow by more than 200 troops—to a deployed force of 4,087—as Baghdad and Washington prepare to take Mosul back from ISIS.
It was stupid when Bush got us into avoidable wars with no plan to get out. It was stupid when Obama continued those wars. It was stupid when Trump continued those wars. It remains stupid that Biden is continuing. (In fairness, finally getting us out of Afghanistan was quite possibly the only useful things he's done.)
People who were Republicans 20 years ago because of foreign policy have switched to your team.
But you already knew that, which is why you so often link to Bill Kristol's The Bulwark.
#BidenVotedForTheIraqWar
#(SoDidClinton)
Global unification under Biden has been so much better.
turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Glad all of Dubya's people are now solid supporters and members of the Democratic party! How's your girl, Victoria Nuland doing? Oh, and Bill Kristol's your boy now.
Its interesting how Palestinian hospitals have had 'less than 24 hours of fuel left' for a week now;)
Every article will always put in a mention about how their generators are about to run dry and have been doing so for several days now.
They can burn $100 bills in them now thanks to Brandon.
https://www.axios.com/2023/10/18/gaza-humanitarian-aid-entry-israel-netanyahu-biden
He stressed that if Hamas steals the aid or diverts it, it would prove that the militant group doesn't care about the Palestinian population.
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The fuel that was suppose to last for 1 day lasted for 8
I thought that was a Jewish thing... why can't these people get along, again?
+1
Its interesting how Palestinian hospitals have had ‘less than 24 hours of fuel left’ for a week now;)
[glares at floor, shields eyes...] "For when the Greeks entered the Sanctuary, they defiled all the oils therein, and when the Hasmonean dynasty prevailed against and defeated them, they made search and found only one cruse of oil which lay with the seal of the kohen gadol (high priest), but which contained sufficient [oil] for one day's lighting only; yet a miracle was wrought therein, and they lit [the lamp] therewith for eight days. The following year these [days] were appointed a Festival with [the recital of] Hallel and thanksgiving."
—Shabbat 21b
First she came for the oil, now she comes for the wind.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/10/17/why-is-greta-protesting-against-a-wind-farm/
Greta Thunberg was arrested in London on Tuesday on suspicion of obstructing the highway outside a conference for fossil-fuel executives. The climate celeb has certainly been keeping herself busy recently. Last week, she received a €400 fine in her native Sweden for blocking the roads to and from an oil terminal. Then, the day after, she journeyed to Oslo in Norway for what might have been one of her most surprising stunts yet. The purpose of this protest? To demand the partial destruction of one of Europe’s largest wind farms.
Yes, you read that right. The climate activist was protesting against the failure of the authorities to act on a 2021 Norwegian Supreme Court judgement, which called for the dismantling of 151 wind turbines in Norway’s Fosen district, about 450km north of Oslo. This, it seems, is the new face of ‘climate action’ – demonstrating to prevent the development of wind power. To oppose not only fossil fuels, but also ‘clean’ electricity.
As Greta’s wind-farm protest shows, the so-called climate emergency can always be put on hold. Even eco-activists are prepared to put their woke infatuation with indigenous people above the development of renewable electricity. By backing Sàmi reindeer herders over supposedly planet-saving wind farms, we see the green elites’ embrace of ‘small is beautiful’ parochialism and identity politics over modernity and democracy. Not even renewable energy is safe from the eco-activist cult.
Fuck Greta, with a reindeer. On pay-per-view.
Onlyfans?
They want a world with only 250M people. Of course Greta expects to be one of the 250M
US Christo Fundie Nuts want a world with only 144,000 according to the Bible.
After the good and the bad are sorted out by Giant Jeeby on his throne on Judgement Day.
The TDS-addled turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Nobody buys your bullshit.
"US Christo Fundie Nuts want a world with only 144,000 according to the Bible."
Yeah, that's not in the Bible, Buttplug.
Also, you're invoking Jehovah's Witnesses who, alongside actual fundamentalist Christians, would both agree that they definitely aren't "Christo Fundie".
You always throw out the stupidest, most retarded shit I've ever seen. How did you grow up so astonishingly ignorant of the broader culture around you?
I sometimes wonder if the pedo has a wheel with random bullshit on it that he spins when he can’t find something in his morning email to spew.
The Wheel of Misfortune. Similar to the one Sqrlsy uses to pick which copypasta he replies with.
Not in the Bible?
Revelation 14:1-3
Then I looked, and behold, the Lamb was standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His name and the name of His Father written on their foreheads. And I heard a voice from heaven, like the sound of many waters and like the sound of loud thunder, and the voice which I heard was like the sound of harpists playing on their harps. And they *sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders; and no one could learn the song except the one hundred and forty-four thousand who had been purchased from the earth.
Many of the fruitier Christians use the number as the total sum of the "elect".
You mean the JWs? Most other Christians consider them a bit nuts.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit
The 144,000 comes from Revelations and is meant to be interpreted as a multitude of multitude (144 being the square of 12, with 12 being the number of tribes of Israel in the old Testament). And only the Jehova Witnesses believe it's literal. I asked an ex-girlfriend, who was a JW, 'if only 144,000 can get in, why do you keep recruiting more competition for those limited seats?' She didn't have an answer. It is also contradicted by Jesus' own words that there is a room for every believer in his father's mansion, and John 3:16-17.
I thought it was something about who would live in "Heaven on Earth" after the rapture. It's not that more people won't "get into Heaven", they just won't be part of the "living" eternal "Heaven on Earth" cohort. Though, it's been a long time since I read Revelations.
“US Christo Fundie Nuts want….”
You know anyone like this, buttplug? Yeah, me neither.
Idiot.
Well, when the rapture comes....
I wouldn't be so sure: Greta strikes me as an absolutely miserable creature.
Gee, it's almost like maybe they just hate all modernity and want to return to a pre-industrial agrarian society with a world population of less than half a million people or something.
I think we should sequester the carbon in their bodies. For the climate.
Hey now, that’s not really fair to the just abjectly stupid Breatharian-style true believers they’ve surrounded themselves with.
The methane produced from the decomposition of 8 billion bodies (not to mention all the domestic livestock that would also likely die, not all of it, but a good portion of it) won't have any effect on GHG emissions, I'm sure. BTW, methane is 4 to 7 times more heat trapping than CO2, and even though it has a shorter lifespan in the atmosphere, it breaks down into CO2 and H20.
The snotty little commie bitch just wants people to freeze in the dark.
-jcr
You're literally quoting a pro-Palestine *activist* here, Wolfe - not a journalist.
Re: Joe Cohn
The *government* should not.
But private actors acting privately should do what they feel is necessary. Shunning works. And remember - there is no such thing as 'cancel culture', there is only 'consequences culture'.
"the burden is on Israel to demonstrate its extraordinary claim that a Hamas rocket—which usually kills maybe one at a time—somehow leveled a hospital."
Riiight--mostly peaceful rockets.
Again, like the Canadian reporter above, the statement "The burden is on Israel to demonstrate its claim that a Hamas rocket somehow leveled a hospital." isn't really that controversial. The burden to show that Israel did it is equally on Hamas.
There's no reason to throw in the patently false statement of "which usually kills maybe one at a time".
The argument, for decades, isn't and hasn't been that the Palestinian Rockets aren't lethal. The argument has been specifically against this atrocity: that the rockets are lethal but are horrendously and inhumanely inaccurate.
"In my opinion, we actually need more cool Eastern European ladies who carry, not fewer."
And look like super models and make sandwiches.
Clearly an unbiased opinion...
Well, you can't expect them to get basic facts right, that's like, racist or something. Besides, all those "brown people" are the same, amiright? Also, those must be the shittiest rockets ever made. Or is that what they're going with now to explain why Hamas/ Islamic Jihad. whoever isn't that bad? "Their rockets suck and can't kill more than one Israeli at a time, therefore Israel bad."
FTFY. They're not "incorrect," they're deliberately lying to promote a narrative.
Israel: “We have radar evidence of a Hamas missile barrage launch near the hospital at exactly the same time as the hospital explosion; there is no crater as there has been with every other bomb we’ve dropped on Gaza; none of our air forces were conducting operations in the area of the hospital at that time.
Hamas: "Israel is lying. They did it."
Which one do you think will be more subject to verification by truly independent investigators? Would anyone here be willing to bet which of those will get the most air time and news media hand-wringing? Sheesh!
And the claim of "500 deaths!!!!!!" turns out to be somewhere between 30 and 50.
These assholes lie more than turd does.
Woah woah woah…nobody lies more than turd.
Well, he's getting some competition.
Again, for IME, 50+ yrs. -
Israel: The rockets launched by Hamas and even Hezbollah aren't bad because they only destroy Israeli military infrastructure, their poor construction, operation, and targeting makes them a danger to anyone within their range. To the point that we can't just fortify our military installations against them but have to build an Iron Dome to guard against any park, hospital, residential building, or street side cafe they may land in.
Hamas: This rocket didn't fail. It was Israel.
The BBC are basically confirming that it was a Palestinian rocket - presumably fired by Islamic Jihad - just as Israel had claimed.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67144061
If the evidence had shown any reasonable possibility of the destruction being due to an Israeli attack, the BBC would already have said so.
The key point in that article was buried way down: almost all of the dead and injured were refugees gathered in the parking lot. Since there was near zero damage to the hospital all of the hysteria about the “humanitarian crisis” due to lack of medical care and the roof caving in on the operation in the operating room is lies.
we all know who didn't hit the hospital.
Hitler?
brevity. soul. wit.
The Joker? Because he's already dead, right?
I think it depends which one.
The Bears quarterback?
Justin Herbert couldn't hit the Pacific Ocean on Monday either
>>... the hospital's director, Suhaila Tarazi, wrote last week, in a plea for help
hopefully there is a Hamas Suggestion Box for Director Tarazi.
also, if B is there to forestall the Israelis, who am I to believe is the enemy?
Islamo-Fascists call for "Day of Anger" Jan 6 style.
Fuck them too.
Everyone here knows that turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
“Islamo-Fascists call for “Day of Anger” Jan 6 style.”
They’re going to walk between the velvet ropes and take lots of selfies, too? Maybe some jihadist will sit at a desk and put his feet up?
How frightening for you, Plugstick.
"Nobody Knows Who Attacked the Hospital"
Well, someone did not long after the explosion, but now we all do.
Shut up, Sevo. You fucking moron.
Hamas shot up their own hospital.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit
Hamas shot up their own hospital
Actually it looks like PLO butt boys ‘Islamic Jihad’ did it
This is really a win-win: Both sides can blame the other side for the attack!
What's even better is that ardent supporters of either side won't question that it was the other guys!
Guitar playing rock star, 65, looks worlds apart from when her anthemic one-hit wonder was released 27 years ago
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12643837/Guitar-playing-rock-star-65-looks-worlds-apart-anthemic-one-hit-wonder-released-27-years-ago.html
It’s been that long?
stupid song, nice Telecasters.
I've never played one. Used to have a Strat. Still have a Les Paul.
I bought one because Keith Richards.
>>Thread showing last night's protests around the world.
ya? what are they protesting Liz?
And were the protests "fiery but mostly peaceful?"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12640995/Britney-Spears-fell-pregnant-Justin-Timberlake-abortion.html
Britney Spears reveals she had an ABORTION with ex Justin Timberlake after getting pregnant at 19 - claims the 'agonizing' decision was made as boy band star 'wasn't ready to be a father'
Spears writes in memoir The Woman In Me...
They read it so no one else has to.
That's a girl who should have just sang in a church choir in small town Louisiana, married the local dentist, and had five kids, instead of entering the industry.
I honestly sympathize with her, but it's also known that she wanted to be famous, but clearly couldn't handle the media attention that comes with it.
If anyone thinks that the leadership of the anti-gun cult is even concerned with violence from the street thug and the gangbanger...
Jim Jordan losing again, Peanuts.
Good. Just don't have a Speaker.
turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
"Good. Just don’t have a Speaker."
I hope you get Trump.
I hope he gets gored by an ox.
Your neocons probably aren't having it.
imagine caring about that
We won't have a speaker, but I wish you'd have a brain.
protesters ..... set things on fire outside ..... protests erupted and demonstrators tried to storm Amman's Israeli embassy .... protesters reportedly threw Molotov cocktails at the U.S. embassy .....
Any chance these weren't protesters and demonstrators but ..... INSURRECTIONISTS? No doubt funded by the Russians.
Jerryskids best poster.
lolword. what were they protesting, Liz?
Well, they did use Molotov cocktails, and we know where Molotov came from don't we?
The Communist Party?
Biden announces that the hospital blast ‘appears to be caused by the “other team”‘.
Guess he was watching the playoffs on AF One.
By the time you posted this article, it was more than clear that the Palestinians did this. There's all sorts of video showing the rocket.
And photos of the site clearly show that it hit the parking lot, not the actual hospital. So the 500+ deaths claim is complete BS
my Terrorist Toyota!
This is why I never end up at protests or go rioting. There's a major new event, something I see online or hear about, and my reaction is, "Man, that looks really bad. Let me wait a few days and see how the facts shake out."
Right now I can't definitively say that this wasn't an IDF missile, but the weight of probability falls on this being a HAMAS rocket. I'm even wondering about the extent of the actual damage to the hospital at this point.
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The hall monitors at school grew up to become
techjournalistsThat's more accurate.
WHERE MY SPEAKER GONE?
Check your rectum for your Bose.
turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit
It wouldn't be farfetched to be the case that Hamas was storing munitions, fuel, rockets, or explosives in/around/under that hospital (wouldn't be the first time, nor the last), and that the magnitude of damage was increased by that cache being detonated as a secondary explosion by an inbound strike on something nearby, or an off-target JDAM (nothing built by humans has ever been 100% perfect), or by a falling outbound missile. With the role of "martyrdom" in their cause/culture and the fact that the only truly effective weapon they have is western outrage, it's not completely inconceivable for Hamas or I/J to have done the whole thing intentionally as a false flag to generate sympathy (although I'd hope they'd only do something on that scale out of complete desperation).
Most likely we'll never know for sure since access to the site before all evidence is completely contaminated has already been made impossible. Hamas is definitely not past policing up bomb frgments and other "evidence" from sites scattered around Gaza. for the purpose of plantig at ddee
Very true. And hidng munitions among civilian spots such as hospitals, schools, and businesses is indeed a war crime and all civilian deaths that result are the responsibility of the ones who hid them.
And a practice allowing Hamas to use humans as shields in non-obvious ways; been shown by actual evidence in the past.
Re: Jim Jordan's credentials to be speaker
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/391428970_10227570691190893_8001124649082400601_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=k7cKF44LQyYAX8q39fH&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=00_AfDG5XjhmQDyBiqqKWuuGIBcLxzhbMNU68bT6fFGnYLFhQ&oe=65351618
SRG's credentials to be a commenter here:
Lies, pulled out of his ass.
Fuck off and die, slimy piece of shit.
"Nobody Knows Who Attacked the Hospital"
This is the blockbuster sequel to "Nobody knows whether babies were decapitated".
So Reason would take whatever the police or government say with a grain of salt but would give the benefit of the doubt to a bunch of terrorists?
Did you hear the story about Melendez being indicted for bribery and being a foreign agent for Egypt? Jamal Bowman pulling down a fire alarm to delay vote? Tlaib cheering on the terrorist cause and spreading misinfo about the hospital? Why is Reason obsessed over Jim Jordan?
It's getting harder and harder to take this place seriously.
claims that US intelligence knows/proves that something wasn't caused by our allies and instead was caused by their/our enemies haven't always been 100% true, historically speaking. This is the same CIA who admitted after loyalties had shifted that they'd assisted with falsification of Iraqi reports "proving" that chemical attacks on civilians in Northern Iraq had been the work of Iran. that doesn't prove that something similar is happening now, but it does make it nearly impossible to rule out that possibility.
I don't think that the Israeli commanders have yet reached a point where they'd order a deliberate strike on an occupied hospital, but so many IDF soldiers and pilots likely have friends and family who were killed or taken in the major attack by Hamas that it's not impossible to imagine someone might be up for some freelancing; not to mention the possibility of a malfunction or other error that can happen whenever people are involved; if there was a laser-guided bomb involved, and whoever was "painting" the target with a designator got distracted, or hit in a way that caused the laser to be pointed at the wrong place for the crucial few seconds an unintended target could have been hit (as a hypothetical example).
With everything happening in "fog of war" conditions, and no ability to conduct anything like a detailed investigation in any reasonable timeframe, it's unlikely that anyone will ever know the answer with absolute certainty unless it was a deliberate strike, and then only those with direct involvement with making it happen will really know (and they're unlikely to confess). Both sides have the ability and motive to lie and a proven willingness to falsify "evidence" if necessary, but even with opposing claims there's no reason to accept that one or the other has to be making an accurate accounting.
What's hilarious is that we had confirmation of who hit the hospital *before this article was posted*!
lol
Only one of those two has any credibility. It's not the terrorists.
Can't say they weren't warned. Israel gave them plenty of notice they were coming, and plenty of opportunity to leave.
If Gaza is paralyzed, it's because Hamas/Palestine is keeping them that way.
Which is precisely why Hamas attacked it.
Reason has gone from libertarian to establishment propagandists.
I didn't think you would cross into vile and reprehensible territory, but here we are.
"This is an impressively scathing letter from (former) University of Pennsylvania donor and prominent investor/hedge fund guy Jonathon Jacobson to the school's president, pledging to give literally $1 annually if she "find[s] employment elsewhere" and the school's trustees "grows the backbone" needed "to fulfill its mission.""
No, Liz got the story backwards. if you click the link and read the letter, he says he will now reduce his donations to ONLY $1 per year UNTIL she finds employment elsewhere.