Prosecutors Appeal Proud Boys' Prison Sentences Over January 6 Riot
Prosecutors asked for longer prison sentences at trial and now seem to be trying again.

It's been more than two-and-a-half years since the January 6, 2021, Capitol riot, in which a violent mob tried to prevent Congress from certifying Joe Biden's electoral win over Donald Trump. In that time, the government has charged hundreds of people for their actions on that day, securing over 600 years in collective prison sentences. Among the most severely punished were members of the far-right Proud Boys organization, who received sentences between 10 to 22 years each.
Yesterday, federal prosecutors filed notices of appeal in the cases of five convicted Proud Boys in an apparent attempt to secure even more prison time.
In May, a Washington, D.C., jury convicted Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio and group members Joseph Biggs, Ethan Nordean, Dominic Pezzola, and Zachary Rehl on charges related to their actions on January 6. All except Pezzola were also convicted of seditious conspiracy, defined as when "two or more persons" conspire "to oppose by force the authority" of the U.S. government "or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States."
Pezzola received the shortest sentence at 10 years in prison. Rehl received 15 years, Biggs received 17 years, and Nordean received 18 years. Tarrio received 22 years, the longest sentence, even though he wasn't even in the city on the day of the riot.
But in each case, federal prosecutors had asked for considerably longer sentences: 20 years for Pezzola, 27 years for Nordean, 30 years for Rehl, and 33 years each for Biggs and Tarrio.
On Monday, federal prosecutors filed notices of appeal for each of the five men. The government is also currently appealing the sentence of Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes, who received 18 years in prison after prosecutors asked for 25.
Granted, the Proud Boys's actions on January 6 are indefensible: Members, including the defendants, openly and unashamedly fought with police. Pezzola gained entry to the Capitol building by using a riot shield he had stolen from an officer to smash a window.
But it's far from clear that longer sentences are necessary or warranted. As Reason's Jacob Sullum has written, prosecutors "never showed that the defendants explicitly planned to disrupt congressional certification of Biden's victory," instead seeming to act impulsively in the moment. And Tarrio, of course, wasn't even in the city during the violence, though according to the Department of Justice, he did claim credit for it after the fact.
Further, it feels like sour grapes for the government to go back for more time. Prosecutors sought and received a terrorism enhancement for each of the five defendants, which allows for more severe sentences if the offenses constituted terroristic acts. U.S. District Judge Timothy Kelly disagreed with the prosecutor that the events of January 6 were "no different than the act of a spectacular bombing of a building," though he did ultimately say that "the constitutional moment we were in that day is something that is so sensitive that it deserves a significant sentence."
Reason's Christian Britschgi wrote after Tarrio's sentencing that most defendants, "including many who directly participated in the riot, have received much more modest sentences of a few months to a few years," whereas others "who chose to take it to trial instead of pleading guilty" receive sentences of a decade or more, an example of the so-called "trial penalty" in which defendants who choose to go to trial receive significantly harsher punishments than those who plead guilty.
Case in point: A sixth defendant in the same case, Charles Donohoe, pleaded guilty in April 2022 and agreed to cooperate with prosecutors. While he has not been sentenced, the maximum sentence is seven years, and as a cooperating witness, he will likely get much less.
The five convicted Proud Boys clearly committed heinous acts of violence with apparent political motivations, and incarceration may well be merited. But going back and appealing decade-plus prison sentences with the intention of making them even longer, as the government is doing now, is wholly inappropriate.
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They freaking deserve pardons and a monument, as far as I am concerned. Throw in some restitution paid by fining the Democratic party while you are at it
Can't do the time?
Don't do the crime!
Speak for yourself and your crimes against the English language, Fraudy.
What crime, Shillsy? Is protesting a crime now.
The video that McCarthy released shows that most of the people charged were completely peaceful and many weren't even there.
Yet Sqrlsy-power pig calls for internment camps.
EVERYTHING in the news media that disagrees with Perfect Mammary-Farter-Fuhrer is LIES, right, Mammary-Farter-Fuhrer?
READ the below and hang your tiny brainless, power-lusting shit-head in SHAME for always taking the side of Trumpanzees, power-luster-pig!
https://www.jpost.com/international/kill-him-with-his-own-gun-dc-cop-talks-about-the-riot-655709 also https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/04/28/michael-fanone-trump-gop-riots/
‘Kill him with his own gun’ – DC cop talks about Capitol riot
DC Police officer Michael Fanone: I had a choice to make: Use deadly force, which would likely result with the mob ending his life, or trying something else.
“Pro-law-and-order” Trumpturds take the side of trumpanzees going apeshit, making cops beg for their lives! For trying to defend democracy against mobocracy! Can you slime-wads sink ANY lower?!?!
Uh oh...
Recently unearthed footage suggests Capitol Police officer lied about Jan 6 injuries
Poor Shillsy.
Yes, the apocalyptic "The Post Millennial" conspiracy spigot is certainly the place to go for credible Jan 6th info!
What information was wrong? Video exists. Was that manipulated?
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47279253
YouTube aids flat earth conspiracy theorists, research suggests
Videos exist!
Did they produce a video of a disc shaped earth like Terry Pratchet 's disc world? Or is it a bunch of squirrel tards making dumbass claims on video?
Stupid is ass stupid does! YOU should know THAT! What more details do you REALLY need?
(Would ANY evidence EVER change your so-called "mind", if you WANT to believe lies?)
Comparing a video to an article. Squirrel tard would rather believe words over actual evidence.The two are not equivalent. Still waiting on your video evidenceML showed theirs, where’s yours. Or are you going to make more attempts at misdirection?
Drooling moron, grow a brain, and learn to read a thread! Below is what twat-comment I responded to...
JesseAz 15 hours ago
What information was wrong? Video exists. Was that manipulated?
Jesse was referring to ML's post and you know that you shit swizzling idiot. Just more misdirection.Now run out in the road or touch two power lines at the same time.
Learn to read all of the thread instead of trying to leave out the parts you don't like.
Your citation fell off. As it stands, your idea of credible is the equavalent of "trust me, bro."
Less than 30% have been charged with violence or vandalism. The DoJ has gone after over 1100 people and want to ramp it up to 2000.
I have to admit, the fucking Democrats sure know how to use the power of the state against their political enemies.
Still assholes, though
Sqrlsy supports fascism.
Liar
So if a gang of 50 thugs break into your house beat your and smash the place to pieces then hang around watching tv for a few hours, that is A OK with you? And anyone who just walked around and laughed at the carnage and slapped the perps on the back is a hero?
bunch of lying idiots
Your argument does not hold up. I'd call the cops and have them rousted out of my house. File civil damages. No one would spend more than a day in jail. Yes, I would be pissed. But it would be what it was.
"So if a gang of 50 thugs break into your house beat your and smash the place to pieces then hang around watching tv for a few hours, that is A OK with you? And anyone who just walked around and laughed at the carnage and slapped the perps on the back is a hero?"
Need help with that strawman, asshole? Like you, it's so full of shit, it's probably quite heavy.
Or wave a BLM flag.
Agreed. Not only restitution from the Democratic Party, but bankrupt the fuckers while they're at it. Factio Democratica delenda est.
These protestors got off easy, compared to “The Whiskey Tax Rebellion” 200+ years ago. POTUS Washington sent in federal troops who killed, arrested, thousands. Hamilton was in charge. Why? It was his tax, designed by him, so his banker co-conspirators could redeem the national debt they bought at 10% for 100%. Keep voting if you want the same political paradigm that uses the initiation of force, threats, fraud. Otherwise, boycott it, demand local neighbor govt. based on non-violence, voluntary compliance, rights.
Not sure wtf a two year long violent rebellion has to do with 1/6, but I’m sure that sounded smart in your head.
All except Pezzola were also convicted of seditious conspiracy, defined as when “two or more persons” conspire “to oppose by force the authority” of the U.S. government “or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States.”
Reminder. They found no evidence of a conspiracy from their CIs in the group nor in their emails and texts. The conspiracy charges were based on what the prosecution itself called an unspoken conspiracy.
Prosecutors sought and received a terrorism enhancement for each of the five defendants, which allows for more severe sentences if the offenses constituted terroristic acts. U.S. District Judge Timothy Kelly disagreed with the prosecutor that the events of January 6 were “no different than the act of a spectacular bombing of a building,”
Reminder, the evidence of terrorism utilized was knocking over a metal railing, as mentioned by the Judge himself.
Granted, the Proud Boys’s actions on January 6 are indefensible: Members, including the defendants, openly and unashamedly fought with police.
As happened for an entire summer during the BLM riots. Where arsonists got under 2 years, looting got under 1, and even a manslaughter charge got under 10. The DoJ asked for the lightest sentences possible, even defending the two law students who fire bombed a cop car in NYC.
But there is no political abuse of the DoJ.
The five convicted Proud Boys clearly committed heinous acts of violence with apparent political motivations, and incarceration may well be merited.
"Heinous." LOL.
+1. Lancaster writes:
"The five convicted Proud Boys clearly committed heinous acts of violence"
Is that true? My understanding is that they wrote some unhinged texts and emails, but did they commit any acts of violence at all, much less heinous ones?
Most of these guys definitely deserved some prison time for rioting, shoving with police, and destroying property. By the time they were convicted, it should have basically been reduced to time-served. Tarrio shouldn't have been convicted at all. But Lancaster apparently includes Tarrio in that group that committed heinous acts of violence for which he deserves incarceration, which baffles me.
That sounds like pretty basic violence. "Heinous" is a pretty strong modifier to be using for a political protest that got out of hand.
Sounds like activities that get you an overnight stay, a warning and a suspended sentence.
Do you not remember them raping and killing AOC? Or beating 5 cops to death with fire extinguishers? How about when they took over the Speaker's podium and issued laws - still in effect today - concerning the use of gendered language and teaching kindergartners about felching?
Lol.
You had me till the "felching" part. I had to look that up. Thanks for an image that has damaged my retinas.
Rightists when Ashli Babbs & the Trumpanzees Gone Apeshit are criticized: “Whatabout BLM and Anti-Fa and other rioting assholes”?
Leftists when BLM and Anti-Fa and other rioting assholes are criticized: “Whatabout Ashli Babbs & the Trumpanzees Gone Apeshit”?
Whatabout whatabout whatabout & the whatabouts?!?!?!
Butt, whatabout that them thar whatabouts? Whatabout Hillary? Whatabout OJ Simpson?
How many brain cells does it take to run a socio-political simulation on the following:
Judge and Jury: “Murderer, we find you guilty of murder! 20 years in the hoosegow for YOU! Now OFF with ye!”
Murderer: “But OJ Simpson got off for murder, why not me? We’re all equal, and need to be treated likewise-equal!”
Judge and Jury: “Oh, yes, sure, we forgot about that! You’re free to go! Have a good life, and try not to murder too many MORE people, please! Goodbye!”
Now WHERE does this line of thinking and acting lead to? Think REALLY-REALLY HARD now, please! What ABOUT OJ Simpson, now? Can we make progress towards peace & justice in this fashion?
(Ass for me, I think we should have PUT THE SQUEEZE on OJ!)
Ass for me...
Took the words straight out of my mouth. Yes, Fraudy, you are an ass.
You COULD be a piece of an ass for me, except I'm not into SheMales!
We know, your proper pronoun is. "Nut
nibbler."
The seditious conspiracy charges were almost certainly added due to the fact that the media and the left had spent over a year calling this an "insurrection," but without charging anyone of sedition or treason. There were lots of well-deserved criticisms for the over-the-top rhetoric in comparison to the actual event.
Keep in mind these people supposedly tried to overthrow the government and yet didn't even show up to protest again the next day. I've yet to hear of a case where a Jan. 6 suspect resisted arrest, seemingly validating their recognition of the authority of the United States. A good number of the supposed insurrectionists actually turned themselves in.
Such a strange insurrection it was.
It could go down in history as "The three hour rebellion".
The rebellion that left their guns at home.
Shorter:
Granted, the Proud Boys’s actions on January 6 are indefensible: Members, including the defendants, openly and unashamedly fought with police.... the same way George Floyd openly and unashamedly fighting with police was indefensible.
I'd tell Lancaster to go fuck himself but this far into history with this narrative, whether he realizes it or not, he's performatively fucking himself and his profession.
The Proud Boys should have just stopped resisting.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/proud-boy-who-smashed-capitol-window-on-jan-6-gets-10-years-in-prison-declares-trump-won
You'd be OK with it if I smashed your window in, and led a bunch of thugs into your house, to ransack it?
How about if an FBI agent is caught on camera smashing the Capitol’s window and blames the protesters?
Poor Shillsy, all this recently released video is fucking up your lies.
Everything posted on Twitter-Twatter is TRUE for sure! How 'bout that them thar Lizard People?!?!?
Unless you can prove the VIDEO is a deep fake, yes you can trust the actual evidence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwku5Alsi04
Man launches himself in self-made rocket to prove flat Earth theory
You realize that video is only evidence of that guys idiocy, right?
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47279253
YouTube aids flat earth conspiracy theorists, research suggests
So much for videos... Unless you can PROVE that the research cited is a deep fake!
What a stupid deflection. You must be unhinged.
Go BACK to your Planet of the Flat Earth, intellectually challenged Wonder Child! Did yer Mommy help you write that BRILLIANT post of "yours"?
Yep, you're definitely in unhinged. Facts to you are like sunlight to vampires. Shine a little light and your lies dissolve.
Smack Daddy, try snorting less smack! Then, with the OBVIOUSLY GREAT writing talents that yer Mommy uses to help you to write your posts, you could help yer Mommy get a writing job at Reason.com!
Again you compare an editorial to actual video. Don’t believe your eyes, believe tree rat. The fuzzy fuher demands it.
A think the prosecution needs to take a field trip to Gaza. Realign on what violence looks like.
Agreed. Most of these idiots have never been involved in so much as a schoolyard fight, much less suffered violence so horrible that those who experience it are terrorized by their own dreams.
So is your argument that the BLM protestors should have been prosecuted as harshly as the Proud Boys, or that the Proud Boys should have been prosecuted as leniently as BLM?
How about the law being applied in an evenhsnded way that is not politically motivated?
...in which a violent mob tried to prevent Congress from certifying Joe Biden's electoral win over Donald Trump.
When you absolutely, positively, have to adhere to an agenda.
I'm surprised Lancaster didn't call it a violation of "The Cathedral."
They did delay the vote, so Congress had to work overtime. We all know how much the swamp creatures hate to work.
Seems like the only part of the law that applies is hindering or delaying, which seems ridiculously broad and also would appear to apply to an awful lot of political protest.
Are there no laws against breaking in through windows? Break on through to the other side, at Zeb's house!
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/proud-boy-who-smashed-capitol-window-on-jan-6-gets-10-years-in-prison-declares-trump-won
You’d be OK with it if I smashed your window in, and led a bunch of thugs into your house, to ransack it?
More narrative destruction for poor Shillsy.
Everything posted on Twitter-Twatter is TRUE for sure! How ’bout that them thar Lizard People?!?!? Twat does Ron DeSatan say about that them thar Lizard People?!?!?
https://www.deseret.com/1991/6/24/18927592/elvis-bigfoot-ufos-skeptics-society-says-they-re-all-balderdash
ELVIS, BIGFOOT, UFOS? SKEPTICS SOCIETY SAYS THEY’RE ALL BALDERDASH
Sorry to break this kind of thing to You, Oh Perfect One!
Another stupid deflection. That tiny squirrel brain must be over heating.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47279253
YouTube aids flat earth conspiracy theorists, research suggests
So much for videos… Unless you can PROVE that the research cited is a deep fake!
Go BACK to your Planet of the Flat Earth, intellectually challenged Wonder Child! Did yer Mommy help you write that BRILLIANT post of “yours”?
Doubling down on stupid, just makes you double stupid.
Of course vandalism and destruction of property are crimes. That's not what is at issue here. Breaking windows is definitely not seditious conspiracy. If he was charged with vandalism or rioting, that would be perfectly reasonable.
OK, those are good points...
Charge those that broke the windows with breaking and entering - not those that were invited in by the police on the other side of the building, and not those that were not even there!
Oh wait, in spite of all the video of the event, most of those that did the actual breaking and entering have not been charged...
It's not clear to my why prosecutors are allowed to appeal sentences. I understand that both sides can appeal procedural violations or verdicts if they allege a procedural violation, but SENTENCES? Aren't those the exclusive prerogative of the judge?
Right. Sentencing appeals are only for death row inmates and no one else! /sarc
That seemed odd to me as well. As well as a bit evil. How are the existing sentences anything but excessive.
I could see maybe allowing prosecutors to appeal if the sentence is lower than prescribed by the statute but otherwise, the law has been enforced and it's time to close the case.
One wonders if a prosecutor going back for tougher sentencing for J6 Democracy Protesters might be gunning for a cush job at MSNBC or something.
Nah, couldn't be.
They also have an endless money pool going up against victims of their procedural violence who are already broke.
How much damage? How many injuries outside the protesters gunned down by your Stormtroopers Joe? Love how you marxist scum fawn over actual fucking riots and actual insurrection (remember CHAZ?) But anything from the right is a terrorist act to you cunts. TMITE
Second this.
i don't get this. i'm not one of the maga crowd that wants to pretend they are all angels, but why push for more? are these prosecutors just trying to make sure nobody ever calms the fuck down about this shit? it isn't like they got a jury to find them guilty and then let them off with a slap on the wrist.
As you’ve been told and shown it is done to politically attack your political opponents and instill fear against them speaking up. Don’t act shocked now.
It is why dems are going to law firms, legal accreditation boards, and using judges to issue fines to lawyers representing those clients as well.
as i have said a number of times, i do understand that is a part of it. that part usually irritates me because it allows people to ignore the legitimate kernels of truth the charges are wrapped around.
my question is what is the point of this specific action? the guy got 22yrs and is now a felon. what extra deterrent is really attained by tacking on a couple more years to that? this move by the prosecutors does not make anyone more scared, it just makes them more pissed.
it allows people to ignore the legitimate kernels of truth the charges are wrapped around
That's the point.
Wut?
There are legitimate wrongs being done to the J6 yahoos, but that doesn’t negate the fact that crimes were committed.
The argument I most often see is that these guys are being wronged, get mad about how it’s so unfair compared to the summer riots, and then ignore the facts of the cases.
The fact that you don’t know the facts proves my point.
Furious googling followed by copy pasta doesn't count as knowledge.
Why would Biden’s DOJ want people to ignore the kernels of truth of what they actually did wrong?
“Furious googling followed by copy pasta doesn’t count as knowledge”
Where did I do this? My comment was a single misspelled word.
Why would Biden’s DOJ want people to ignore the kernels of truth of what they actually did wrong?
I don't know what that means other than w h a t a b o u t.
Dude that’s not a whatabout. I’m asking you what their motivation for doing that would be.
What?
No seriously, why would you call that a whatabout?
He’s a drunken idiot troll.
There are legitimate wrongs being done to the J6 yahoos
The argument I most often see is that these guys are being wronged,
Wut.
But keep defending the state committing wrongs.
Do you even read what you post?
Nobody here has dismissed the actual crimes you retarded biden defending neocon. They have pointed out the people are being wronged just like you did. The comparisons of sentencing and prosecutions between them and BLM is part of the wrong you retarded fuck.
Most of us do not want political or biased used of the law. You know standard libertarian thinking.
You apparently recognize the wrongs but are okay with them happening because you dont like the people being wronged or those mentioning it.
Talk about principles.
Do you even read what you post?
None of that was I said was inconsistent. As someone on the previous article said, you appear to lack nuance.
Specifically you say giving credit and praising are the same. You categorically disallow the possibility of giving credit without celebrating.
Credit can be given grudgingly without giving praise. That’s what I would do if you got something right. I’d give you credit, but no praise.
The fact that you would do neither should the tables be turned, but rather you'd be making up something new to argue against, has no effect on what the words mean.
Sarc: None of that was I said was inconsistent. As someone on the previous article said, you appear to lack nuance.
Sarc translation: I’m drunk and JesseNM.
It was entrapment.
Sarc’s pretty consistently ant-cop and all their tactics. Except this one time.
But he doesn’t hate the people being abused by cops this one time. It’s just a coincidence this is the time he’s cool with leo’s actions.
Christ, what assholes.
Board the train!!! You 'icky' Jews. Says the left-Nazi's. Make no mistake. The left is replicating the German Nazi's to a T. Did you see all those gun-packers and dead police after this so-called insurrection???? They are literally LYING and spreading propaganda constantly and compulsively to de-humanize their 'jew' (right-wing).
has any journalist actually gone and visited tarrio in prison ... he was a ci for a full decade before j6 went down ...
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-proudboys-leader-exclusive/exclusive-proud-boys-leader-was-prolific-informer-for-law-enforcement-idUSKBN29W1PE
Joe said: “…appealing prison sentences…as the govt. is doing now, is wholly inappropriate.” This govt. is wholly inappropriate! What made America great? The American way, specifically, sovereign citizens, NOT sovereign rulers like all other countries suffer under, referred to by the Founding Fathers as oppression or tyranny. Either a people are free to choose individually, personally, i.e., run their own life, to “live & let live” or they are forced to live as others dictate, to live without rights.
Who chooses for you? Are you free to choose for yourself, on principle, as a fundamental political paradigm? When you are, it’s called, “Living the American Dream”. If you choose NOT to choose, i.e., abdicate your rights, i.e., vote for rulers (law makers), you self-enslave and live like the rest of the world, NOT the American Way.
What does this accomplish? The political means determines the end, e.g., submit to the initiation of force, threats, fraud, and you get war, social conflict, oppression, repression, chaos. Choose.
Sovereign citizen is redundant. All citizens of a republic are sovereigns.
"Members, including the defendants, openly and unashamedly fought with police."
"The five convicted Proud Boys clearly committed heinous acts of violence"
Tarrio wasn't even in the city you moron! You're a hack.
How isn't this a blatant violation of double jeopardy and prosecutorial misconduct? They're too lazy to make up new bullshit charges so they are going to burn the defendant's resources by illegally attempting to re-litigate the case with the express purpose of enacting a more punitive sentence? The cases I've looked at were already blatant abuses of our legal system. The rule of law doesn't exist, only the exercise of power. These types are making it exceedingly clear that their power needs to be countered by a leveled barrel.
I don't blame them. Especially as the MAGA-right continues to paint them as "persecuted victims" the same way the BLM-left does their violent agitators.
The fact of the matter is that the Proud Bois (and Oathkeepers and 3%ers) are a gang. And if we're going gangbusters in this nation - which we should - the best way to do so is to cut the head off the snake, and then break up what remains before someone can rise to fill the vacuum.
A message needs to be sent. If there's any objection to make here, it's that Lady Justice seems to only be sending it to certain people, instead of ALL the people who should be receiving it from the tip of her sword.
In a just world, every J6er would have a BLMer for a lifelong cellmate.
A gang insisting the USA is a Constitutional (Oath-keepers) nation. You just as well claim every founding father was but a gang that deserved being cutoff at the head.
Your definition of a 'just' world has been warped.
bs
criminal gang
TDS-addled lying plie of lefty shit
That's what they market themselves as. In reality, they're violent agitators (in cosplay) who intentionally go out looking for trouble, instigating a reaction, and hoping for the opportunity to engage in "justified violence" and "government showdowns." Gavin McInness, Stewart Rhodes - they both openly admit this.
The Founding Fathers were honorable men who had no other choice but to accept oppression or risk everything in open rebellion. And they copped to that fact. In fact, they wrote a very famous letter saying that's precisely what they were doing and why.
The Proud Bois and the Oathkeepers are not even remotely oppressed, nor can they be honestly claimed to be in any way rebelling. They are nothing more than hyper-partisan fanatics who lash out violently for no reason and no purpose, organized with a leadership structure. aka, a gang.
Disagree? Tell me what the endgame of J6 was supposed to be. What is it they thought they were going to accomplish with their rioting and mayhem? What was Step 4 after, "1) Show up; 2) Go berserk; 3) Enter the Capitol"?
You tell me what the plan was. I'm all ears.
“…That’s what they market themselves as. In reality, they’re violent agitators (in cosplay)… You tell me what the plan was. I’m all ears…”
You stupid steaming pile of lefty shit, they were protesting, engaged in an activity among thosewhich A1 specifically prohibits government interference.
How stupid do you have to be not to see this? Well, at least as stupid as AT.
Fuck off and die, TDS addled steaming pile of lefty shit and take your bogus claims with you.
Unless you'd like to take CNN's "mostly peaceful" narrative approach, it stopped being a protest once MAGA started climbing the walls, attacking cops, kicking in windows, and crawling through them.
In fact, let's think on that a moment. You're supposedly there to "protest." You see the so-called "protest" getting really out of hand really quickly.
Exactly what is your rationale for the MAGAs there NOT turning the opposite direction and saying, "Whoa, this isn't what I came here for! I'm outta here!"
What goes through the depraved mind of someone who says, "They're kicking in windows and pressing in against the cops? I gotta get in on this!" (Is it the same thing we say about BLM and Antifa? Or is it more of a herd-mentality of lemming following lemming?) Heck, let's even give them the benefit of the doubt that they don't deserve. "Yea, well... the middle of an active riot of mayhem and destruction - that's the PERFECT time for a self-guided sightseeing tour of the Capitol!" Is that it? Is that their rationale?
Seriously Sevo. You're real good at insults, but how about you try thinking for a change. Exactly what did these rampaging unhinged baboon "protesters" hope to accomplish with their mayhem?
Ironically that is what most of them did do. Course you just follow the lefty painted narrative off in delusional land. Did you not pay any attention to the Reason article that the most prosecuted wasn't even there let alone at the front line swatting helmets (like OMG! The mayhem??? WTF?). J6 is nothing but another Hitler painting of the Reichstag Fire only this time over a F'En fire extinguisher.
As opposed to you following the righty painted narrative off in delusional land?
I don't follow one or the other. Why do you? I just call it how it is. Why won't you?
And you didn't answer the question. What was the end plan? What did they think they were going to accomplish?
The people were protesting their government for allowing an illegal election to occur and not investigating massive abnormalities. Apparently you believe everyone should just bow down to their gov-gods and never protest.
Unless you’d like to take CNN’s “mostly peaceful” narrative approach, it stopped being a protest once MAGA and their ganglords started climbing the walls, attacking cops, kicking in windows, and crawling through them.
In fact, let’s think on that a moment. You’re supposedly there to “protest.” You see the so-called “protest” getting really out of hand really quickly.
Exactly what is your rationale for the MAGAs there NOT turning the opposite direction and saying, “Whoa, this isn’t what I came here for! I was here to protest, and this is DEFINITELY not that! I’m outta here!”
"I don’t blame them. Especially as the MAGA-right continues to paint them as “persecuted victims” the same way the BLM-left does their violent agitators..."
As a TDS-addled shit, I'm sure those lies appeal to you.
After today, they should look forward to some BDS Arab cellmates too.
After your bullshit, you might look forward to learning something, but the evidence suggests otherwise, steaming pile of TDS-addled lefty shit.
MAGA = BLM = Antifa = Pro-Hamas
It's all the exact same "ends justify the means" "us vs them" "whatever it takes no matter how awful" mentality.
Wearing a silly red hat doesn't make you any less anti-American.
And back to my original assertion. The 'right' side is the side insisting on a Constitutional USA (hut hum: Oath-keepers). But heaven forbid actual people's LAW factors play into your BS. Oh no; The USA has to be conquered by [Na]tional So[zi]alist[s] and anyone against that must be a violent gang of fire extinguisher throwers. /s
The ‘right’ side is the side insisting on a Constitutional USA (hut hum: Oath-keepers).
They’re not insisting on that. They’re insisting on government showdowns. They’re instigating violence for any excuse to engage in force and lawlessness.
In fact, MAGA as a whole seems to have ZERO respect for the Constitution. They seem to want the same thing the left does: a benevolent dictatorship. So much so that pretty much the only difference between MAGA and Leftism is their definition of “benevolent.”
Violating the Constitution *IS* lawlessness.
There are so many examples of the right being far more-so Constitutional than the left…. COVID – Trump leaves to States, Biden mandates federally. Healthcare, Retirement, etc, etc, etc….. *ALL* initiated by Democrat-Trifectas. You need to dig a little deeper than your local leftard propaganda outlet if you seek any truth to your claims.
And how is a violent gang of cosplayers known for instigating confrontations attacking the Capitol in an unhinged fit of mayhem, with absolutely no plan beyond "unhinged fit of mayhem," a solution to lawlessness?
This is what happens when the Evil Empire wins and the Rebels are defeated.
Granted, the Proud Boys's actions on January 6 are indefensible:
Reason is dead.
If these were not a bunch of whiney white men you all would have demanded they all have been shot on site
criminals
traitors
morons
Stuff your TDS up your ass, shit-pile. Your head wants company
MORE leftarded racism showing.
No. They just weren’t drug loaded so badly they actually caused their own death while resisting an arrest.
>>Further, it feels like sour grapes for the government to go back for more time>>
This is a legal argument?
I mean, I happen to agree that they should not be appealing sentences, or actually even have the ability to do so, but 'feels like' is what got us here in the first place
traitortrumps supporters 'feel' he won the election
"traitortrumps supporters ‘feel’ he won the election"
TDS-addled lefty shits need to fuck off and die.
He did win the REAL person election. That’s not just a feeling. The election violated election laws. (executive fiat) That’s not just a feeling. Live TV did delete Trumps vote count. That’s not just a feeling. IP address logs shows foreign connection. That’s not just a feeling.
What is just a feeling is pretending the election was legitimate in the face of all that. A prejudice and biased feeling completely loaded with nothing more than deceit. And the amount of BS rumors/propaganda/witch-hunting about it just further solidifies the guilt.
If the leftard Nazi's gave one thread of care to election integrity they would be pursuing justice/investigating executive fiat, foreign IP connection, after hours counting, Live TV vote deletes, video of drop-box stuffing etc, etc, etc.... BUT NO; Instead of even offering 2% of what Hillary s claims got (years of investigation) they're literally dismissing it all and just PROSECUTING the claimants. It's a DEAD GIVEAWAY of a cover-up.
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