1 Million Told To Flee
Plus: Inflation issues, California's "Ebony Alerts," and campus macroaggressions...

Israel tells one million people to flee Gaza: Overnight, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) warned the more than a million residents of Gaza to flee the entirety of the north. Two major refugee camps and all of Gaza City are included in the zone that the IDF plans to attack in retribution for the 1,300 Israelis who have been killed by Hamas' October 7 invasion and the fighting that has followed in the days since.
Hamas has "dismissed [Israel's warning] as a ploy and called on people to stay in their homes," per the Associated Press. Some are staying put, but others are joining the roughly 400,000 who have already fled their homes. "We cannot evacuate hospitals and leave the wounded and sick to die," Gazan Health Ministry spokesperson Ashraf al-Qidra told the A.P.
The United Nations agency that's ministering to refugees in the north says that it will not evacuate the schools where displaced Palestinians are staying.
In Gaza, people are desperate: More than 1,500 have been killed and the country's main power plant has run out of fuel. Generators that power the main hospital, Al-Shifa, only have a few days' worth of fuel left before they go dark. The road out of the north is jammed, and many people do not have functioning cars, let alone fuel.
"Israel said it needed to target Hamas' military infrastructure, much of which is buried deep underground," per the A.P. An IDF spokesman says residents will be permitted to return once the war is over, but it's not clear what will be left if the Israeli military successfully carries out its plans.
U.S. inflation update: "The Federal Reserve's higher interest rates were supposed to trigger changes to fiscal policy," writes Reason's Eric Boehm. "So far, that hasn't happened."
Yesterday, the Bureau of Labor Statistics released new inflation data, which shows prices up 3.7 percent over the last year but "core inflation" (which exempts food and gas) at 4.1 percent. Rents and hotel costs, meanwhile, are up 7.2 percent, reports Boehm. (Paul Krugman, of course, claims we "won" the war on inflation at "very little cost," which is patently absurd.)
For 11 consecutive meetings, the Federal Reserve raised interest rates (before halting in July, keeping the base rate at 5.5 percent). Inflation has cooled as a result, but "the federal government's $33 trillion national debt and rising budget deficits are creating inflationary pressure in ways that remain underappreciated," argues Boehm. "The big problem is that, while higher interest rates are helping curb inflation, they are worsening the federal government's deficit."
Macroaggressions: "We, the undersigned student organizations, hold the Israeli regime entirely responsible for all unfolding violence," read one representative statement from Harvard student groups. Similar ones were issued at Stanford, Columbia, George Washington, and elsewhere. At Yale, religious studies professor Zareena Grewal tweeted: "Settlers are not civilians. This is not hard" and that Israel is a "murderous, genocidal settler state." It hasn't all been paraglider poster art and simplistic decolonizer narratives (all free speech that I personally find vile, but important to permit), though: At Columbia, an Israeli student was reportedly assaulted by another student.
Since roughly 2013—the start of the modern-day campus social justice movement—college administrators have been offering safe spaces replete with coloring books, bubbles, and Play-Doh for students who might find their emotional health threatened by hearing words they disagree with from on-campus speakers (if even platformed at all). They've been providing guidance on which Halloween costumes might hurt feelings or lean too far into stereotypes (at, for example, Yale, where Grewal teaches). Students have been routinely sorted into affinity groups and privilege hierarchies, in what looked (to the uninitiated) like a benign effort to help them understand how other people's plights differ from their own.
To some of us, these practices seemed hollow, infantilizing, or downright wrong from the start. But for many others, this moment we're in now has smashed whatever vestigial support for campus wokeness remained. Turns out, when people reveal themselves to be Hamas apologists, it is hard to take seriously their requests for microaggression sensitivity.
Scenes from New York:
In my opinion, it's times like these when in-person worship is most essential. The post-COVID pivot-to-Zoom when under threats of violence or contagion feels soul-corroding.
This is NEW YORK
"New York State officials are starting to suggest synagogues consider closing Friday out of an abundance of caution and making Erev Shabbat services virtual." https://t.co/FxEg6hIiBd
— Jacob N. Kornbluh (@jacobkornbluh) October 12, 2023
QUICK HITS
- In France, pro-Palestine protests and rallies were banned. Authorities say this is because they need to protect "public order," but cracking down on speech in this manner is a flagrant civil liberties violation.
- Yesterday, Zach Weissmueller and I interviewed terrorism expert Max Abrahms on the situation in Israel and Gaza. Watch it here.
- "At every stop since Saturday's massacres, Americans and Israelis have compared Hamas to the radical Islamists of ISIS," writes Reason's Matt Welch. "Therein lies cause for even more sobriety when it comes to hostages."
- Rep. Steve Scalise (R–La.) drops out of House speaker race.
- It is not clear to me why an "Ebony Alert" is needed in order to alert Californians to missing black women and children. Do Amber Alerts not work?
- Israel eases gun restrictions, and tells its citizens to arm themselves.
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Israel tells one million people to flee Gaza...
Well that's unanticipated.
Don't worry. Palestinians will make more.
Everyone is a first cousin over there.
https://twitter.com/PeterSweden7/status/1712782854290071699?t=cmRImLazTqKl20bDZVvCGQ&s=19
BREAKING: A French teacher has been stabbed to death by a man shouting "allah akhbar"
This comes after Hamas called for a "global jihad" on Friday the 13th.
He must have been provoked. It certainly cant be his barbaric religion and ideology. No, that teacher probably oppressed him
He is "decolonizing" France.
By removing the colon of a French oppressor.
"“global jihad” on Friday the 13th"
Spooooooky!
I'm so inured to dissing superstition that I didn't even notice the date. I'm sure Hamas picked it deliberately as a psy-war tactic against those for whom the date has significance.
I think we finally found a compatible religion for Jason Vorhees.
https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1712846800116179078?t=PSrZnFuqRrf5UeXsSPh1dA&s=19
Arras, France: Teacher stabbed to death by a man yelling Allahu Ahkbar, others injured
Beijing, China: Israeli embassy employee is stabbed by a foreign national
Stay strapped, folks
"It's a mostly peaceful intifada," MSNBC reported.
"Teacher stabbed to death by a man yelling Allahu Ahkbar, others injured. Police said the motive was unknown."
"by a man shouting “allah akhbar”
You misunderstood. He was actually yelling "MAGA forever", they're the real terrorists you know. - t. FBI
It isn't real terrorism until a metal barrier is moved at least 6 inches.
With a fire extinguisher.
In France, pro-Palestine protests and rallies were banned. Authorities say this is because they need to protect "public order," but cracking down on speech in this manner is a flagrant civil liberties violation.
And restricting this sort of gathering also stops the targets from bunching up nicely.
Well that’s unanticipated.
Yeah, I figured they wouldn't start until Sunday.
I expect Jerk and Jill to invite all of them to settle in the USA.
Hamas has "dismissed [Israel's warning] as a ploy and called on people to stay in their homes..."
"Your Hamas leadership has your best interests at heart."
"In a war of attrition, you will be the attrition and like it."
Presidente Hamas
Nobody needs 23 years of life.
That's a definite white privelege deal.
https://twitter.com/Aristos_Revenge/status/1712867583009890328?t=7WQKKMXjNJGqWCWLjUQ7jg&s=19
"expanding its conventional forces" has been what the US has needed to do for a decade and a half, during the Obama administration everything became about SOF doing all the work, regulars being target practice for IED's, and contractors doing all the continuity work.
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Human shields are cheaper than real shields.
somebody has to guard the kitchen rockets.
And the grade school munition dumps.
Funny, when Israel came into being and it's Arab Muslim neighbors declared war, Israel's enemies told Arabs in Israel to leave and that they could return after "The Zionist Entity" was destroyed.
Israel survived, the Arabs who left were made stateless refugees now known as Palestinians, and the rest is history. Many of these Arabs still retain as family heirlooms the house keys for the homes they left, hoping to re-use the keys one day.
The Arabs who stayed, of course, became equal citizens of Israel. So much for Israeli "Apartheid."
With the technology of man-made coral islands and seasteading platforms, refugee problems could be ended tomorrow, both in the Middle East and everywhere. But Israel's enemies want the Palestinians kept homeless and used as political footballs.
Also, Hamas wouldn't want anything to do with The Seasteading Institute founded by (((Patri Friedman))), Grandson of (((Milton Friedman))), because Hamas hates Jews more than it loves the Palestinian Arabs they claim to represent.
"We, the undersigned student organizations, hold the Israeli regime entirely responsible for all unfolding violence," read one representative statement from Harvard student groups.
The world will never reach peak useful idiot.
But "best and brightest".
Leftists, especially young Jewish leftists who attend elite universities, have long despised Israel. It’s another way to piss off their parents, along with having a “mitzvah” for their non-binary kid.
https://twitter.com/VDAREJamesK/status/1712695727283958174?t=x3u8Jwaqm5WIzCGgsm7Zpg&s=19
Get ready. They are going to start insisting that Europe and North America take these people. And I bet some Israeli "humanitarian" NGOs will eagerly volunteer to "help" resettle them, though it's not like we won't have our own homegrown traitors urging the same.
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Seems legit:
https://babylonbee.com/news/harvard-student-leaves-lecture-on-microaggressions-to-attend-kill-the-jews-rally
Lol
Magic underwear in the sky!
Thanks, Knee-jerk-Based Human Skeptic.
At Yale, religious studies professor Zareena Grewal tweeted: "Settlers are not civilians. This is not hard" and that Israel is a "murderous, genocidal settler state."
"Grewal" sounds like the name of some ugly Dickensian or Tolkien-esque villian.
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https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1712903239962693805?t=SJTmyyK-zsJUBWw9Csckrw&s=19
Cory Booker was in Israel during the attack and has just returned home to repeat the words "Hitler" and "Nazi" as many times as possible on MSNBC, while Chris Hayes respectfully looks on. "As a Black man," Booker says, he too has experienced a Hamas-style attack... on January 6
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That is even dumber that I thought Cory Booker was capable of. Apparently I was wrong.
It's not dumb, it's evil.
"1 Million Told To Flee"
Charles Koch: Eeeeeeeeeeeexcellent.
#WarIsGoodBecauseItCreatesRefugees
#CheapLaborAboveAll
Not sure if Hamas radicalized Gazans will be as good of strawberry pickers as Sinaloa narcotraficantes, Lord Koch.
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1712823385527562468?t=KopPWg_mEEijzw8JYblXgg&s=19
First time I got to Dublin a decade ago, I remember asking, where are all the Irish?
Here’s Dublin now:
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Leprechauns after too much Guinness?
Since roughly 2013—the start of the modern-day campus social justice movement...
I'm going to print the two paragraphs that start there and wallpaper my office with them.
Based Liz is so much better than lefty-simp liz.
2013 isn't when it started. It is when the first batch got into higher HR position and it bled into companies. Many were warning of this bullshit movement in the 2000s.
Yeah, the modern movement can ultimately be traced to the mainstreaming of it in the 90s when it was called "political correctness." Wokism is just the latest name for it.
You were a conspiracy theorist if you recognized it back then.
I should know, as it was obvious even back then, as a college student in the late 1990s.
Political correctness was a term in the late 80's as I remember declaring myself not Politically correct before I left college in 1988.
97-2002, I could see it happening.
But compared to today, it was extremely mild.
Yeah, it was happening then. Moreso with the administration than with the faculty (this was an engineering college).
It’s definitely more obnoxious in overall tone than it was back then, but a lot of the hyper-moralfagging that we see now was definitely present in what are now considered seminal critical theory works from the 1970s-90s. The stuff produced by Kimberle Crenshaw, Frances Cress Welsing, Gayle Rubin, Judith Butler, Noel Ignatiev, Peggy McIntosh, Paolo Freire, Henry Giroux, Cornel West, etc., all had the same overbearing stridency and circular reasoning that became the standard campus theology after the Gen-X and Millennial academics finished grad school and started gatekeeping the hiring boards.
I remember foundly reading political correct bedtime stories in the early 90s. Was just as funny to mock them than as it is today.
The movie "PCU" came out in 1994, so that was trending enough to make a low-brow comedy about it, which tried to play from the same deck as "Animal House".
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Other factions on campus include a commune-style house of pot users called Jerrytown that Gutter frequents, a radical feminist group known as the Womynists, an Afrocentric group suspecting the Pit of conspiring against them, and the college president, Ms. Garcia-Thompson, who is obsessed with enforcing "sensitivity awareness" and multiculturalism to an extreme. She proposes that Bisexual Asian Studies should have its own building, as well as a plan to change the campus mascot to a whooping crane instead of an offensive Native American character during their bicentennial anniversary.
And like bad wine, it hasn't improved with age
I can remember Playskool Communist college students using the term "politically correct" unironically back in the 1970s. It came from the Little Red Book.
tell me you’ve all seen P.C.U. ... that pre-frosh snagged the bee?
Loved it. All I remember is Jeremy Piven throwing meat at the vegetarians and the hippy girl having her pop up blank placard ready to be filled in.
meat tosser!
At some point well before 2013, someone, somewhere, realized how valuable it would be to have all university presidents and upper-level administrators be pledged blood loyal to wokeism/social justice, and it has proceeded apace. Their reward has been no questioning of the massive, impossible-to-justify tuition increases which have been used to expand the army of administrators (non-student, non-faculty) and construct extravagant, palatial campus environments.
Agreed. I can see highlighting some time during the Obama years though, as his presidency did turbo charge the woke movement, racial grievance politics, and solidify the coalition that currently pushes the stuff.
But for sure it started earlier.
Obama's election absolutely gave it the adrenaline shot it needed.
I actually agree with Liz here. There was a blessed decade or so in the 2000s when PC was not normalized but ridiculed. Attempts to push these tropes in schools were largely stopped by a public that would speak out against the histrionics of these PC cry babies. In the Duke Lacrosse case, there was a massive outpouring of support for the boys, and the DA ultimately resigned in disgrace because his political witchhunt was stopped.
But 2013 is a good start to the era when this shit became entrenched. When Justine Sacco was sacked for her innocuous tweet, it represented the beginning of the Cancel Culture era, where woke activists figured out they could use Social Media to force any critic into silence for fear of losing their jobs. That began 5 or 6 years of people being punished for ridiculing or pushing back against woke nonsense.
To this day, people must think carefully before pushing back against DEI and other nonsense. And they must do so because of this new wave of entrenchment that was enabled by the Woke-created cancel mobs.
I disagree. While there was a slight come together after 9/11, colleges still pushed the wokeness in colleges. General education requirements started to require culture and race based learning. There walls the outcry against oppression of Muslims after 9/11. Etc etc. 2000s were not anti PC.
You and Overt are saying the same thing, but you're pointing out when it became legitimized in the clerisy, and Overt is pointing out when it became legitimized in greater society.
Yes. That was my original post. The original indoctrination takers got HR jobs and advanced in companies to see the explosion in the work force requiring it around the time of Obama.
But it was heavy in colleges in the early 2000s. And many of us warned about it back then and were told "colleges aren't the real world."
"And many of us warned about it back then and were told “colleges aren’t the real world.”
Even as late as 2018, people were saying "They'll grow out of it". And then all of a sudden the CEOs of the world's biggest companies were solemnly saying the same stupid things.
I knew I was out of step back then, when my "outcry" was based on Muslims not being oppressed *enough*.
"I actually agree with Liz here. There was a blessed decade or so in the 2000s when PC was not normalized but ridiculed. Attempts to push these tropes in schools were largely stopped by a public that would speak out against the histrionics of these PC cry babies."
As someone who attended college in the mid 00s, no. Political correctness was expected, promoted, and vigorously enforced.
I don't disagree that PC was being actively pushed. What started in 2013 was a mass wave of peoples' lives being ruined because they pushed back against this stuff.
It went from "you are a racist bigot" to "you are a racist bigot predator who is harming me, and must be fired to protect me."
It went from “you are a racist bigot” to “you are a racist bigot predator who is harming me, and must be fired to protect me.”
^
YEah, there was lots of PC and critical theory shit at college in the late 90s for me (helps that I went to the school that provided the model and exterior shots for PCU) but not so much of the "your words are literal violence and you are denying my right to exist" crap.
Certainly, though, the former was a precursor to the latter. A generation was brought up on this idea that being offended is harmful and you must never do this kind of harm, and it eventually manifested in the need to destroy anyone with offensive ideas.
Yeah, that was my first first-hand encounter: when my kids started trying to "educate" me. "What's wrong with being considerate of others' feelings?"
I said "That's fine, but I am NOT responsible for others' feelings. Period." That's when I became a right-wing, alt-right, Nazi-adjacent conservative.
Thus concludes my journey from hippy, better-living-through psychedelic-chemistry, anarchist, Randian, patriotic liberal, centrist, right winger, conservative, Objectivist, Nazi.
And ALL of that was achieved without me once changing my base anti-authoritarian views. (which originated about age 6 when I realized the adults were waaaay too stupid to be in charge, but they were anyway.)
As someone who attended college in the mid 00s, no
As someone who taught college in the mid 00s, yes. When I started teaching in the late-'90s PC was a bit of a joke and there was at least a slight sense of embarrassment about it. By 2005, it was getting dangerous to say things that some student might go complain to the administration about. My lectures on the history of the language were fraught because I talked about Aryans outside of the context of "Aryans Evil." This wasn't a problem in 1998.
1998 is not the decade of the 2000s.
Point is it was getting bad then, and the trend has continued.
1998 is not the decade of the 2000s, but 2002 is. I suppose Overt should have said "roughly 1994-2004," but the point still stands - this is a thing that has been going in waves, not a linear progression, and the general explosion of this out into the public was about 2013.
You’re probably correct that 94-02 or thereabouts was the height of tolerant American culture.
But that was a very different environment from 02 and on.
So yea, identifying the 00s as a Halcyon pre-woke decade is erroneous.
90s might work.
00s does not.
But 2013 is a good start to the era when this shit became entrenched.
I'd actually trace it to Occupy Wall Street when the protests were quickly taken over after the first couple of days by the cultural marxists, and they turned from a general complaint about banks getting bailed out to being a general social justice grievance movement. A lot of the retards that participated in those protests are entering state politics and corporate management positions now.
The “Occupy” movements and Tea Party originated simultaneously and for a time, I thought they actually were opposed to a common enemy…that is, until Occupy was taken over by SJW-trained Antifa and the Tea Party was taken over by corporate "conservatism".
I thought for a while that the simultaneity of the Occupy and Tea Party movements might mean they were protesting a common enemy…before SJW and Antifa forces took over the former and corporate astro-turfing the latter.
Should’ve noted the populist roots of both would attract adversarial attention from various powers-that-be. And so it came to pass.
I think the social media aspect of it is very significant. Social media really took off around 2013 as the all-pervasive thing it has become and I think that had a lot to do with getting the woke mind-virus out to the broader culture and enabling "cancel culture".
That and smartphones becoming a lot more pervasive around the same time. Even in the early days of social media, you still had to sit down and set aside time on your computer to engage with it. Smartphones made that available at all times, and the apps dinging at people had a Pavolovian effect that demanded personal engagement.
Correct
Note that the smart phone aspect of the problem allows the dimmest of bulbs and middest of wits to feel "informed" on any issue in 30 seconds...which "informed" state is universal, of no value and deep as the skim of oil on a shallow puddle.
The thing, in the 1990s and even early aughts, you could still find conservative professors who weren't suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.
Now, outside maybe the Ag sciences and military sciences, that's pretty damn rare.
All depends on what she's "based" upon, just as "Progressive" all depends on what those who wear the label are Progressing towards, of course.
I never really liked any of these labels. Why not just call yourself Real?
Liz Wolfe seems a better fit with nonsense-teaching, bigoted, superstition-based, conservative-controlled campuses than she does with America's strongest research and teaching institutions, which are operated in and for the liberal-libertarian modern American mainstream that faux libertarians, clingers, and right-wing culture war casualties despise.
Carry on, clingers . . . so far as better Americans permit, that is.
Nice to know what you think of libertarianism, Artie. Go back to the WaPo with the other fascistic Democrats, please.
Libertarianism . . . the kind that starts by mocking people who "can't take mean words," then whines about people saying disagreeable things? Or the kind that involves a website for faux libertarians who turn out to be disaffected, bigoted right-wingers prancing around in unconvincing libertarian drag?
Carry on, clingers. Your betters will continue to let you know just how far and how long is to be permitted, however. Thank you for your continuing compliance.
Has anyone ever seen Artie and MovieBob in the same place at the same time?? Because their positions and "wisdom" are pretty similar.
Note: Artie, this is not a compliment.
LOL, your side can’t even figure out how to pay back its student loans, you slack-jawed, slope-foreheaded hicklib.
Disaffected, resentful, bigoted right-wingers are among my favorite culture war casualties. And the faux libertarian backbone of the Republican Party.
Why, oh why are you still granting permissions to the clingers, Artie? When will the madness end?
Haha. Impotent doosh.
"New York State officials are starting to suggest synagogues consider closing Friday out of an abundance of caution and making Erev Shabbat services virtual."
You know who else wanted to virtually end Jewish gatherings?
it seems like its always far left socialists.
I wonder what the overlap is between the pro-Hamas protests and the "fiery but mostly peaceful" BLM riots in terms of participants.
What amazes me is the number of fad-of-the-moment 'progressives' who can't realize that the alphabet gang will be the first up against the wall if Hamas comes here.
They don't learn actual history. They learn progressive history.
Ya, love the "Queers for Palestine" groups.
They would all be thrown off a roof or beheaded in palestine, but tolerated in Israel.
Tel Aviv is extremely gay friendly. Jenin and Ramallah, not so much.
Since when are right-wing religious kooks gay-friendly?
Did you get dropped on your head as kid, or were you just born stupid, Kirkland?
Just a reminder: Your lefty boos, the "cultural betters" over there will murder someone on the spot for being gay.
"Right wing religious kooks" in America are so bigoted they live by gays, interact with gays, befriend gays, sometimes fuck gays, but they commit the most egregious sin: not allowing left wing groomers to advertise it to their kids in grade school.
Oh, the fucking horror.
Really? Give in to terrorists, and their wannabe disciples? So Jews can no longer congregate and pray together?
I don't think so.
Has any of the retard leftists thought of the fact that jews can't use technology on sabbat
Don’t they have that Mulligan Wire around Manhattan that makes cheating OK?
Here it is:
https://www.npr.org/2019/05/13/721551785/a-fishing-line-encircles-manhattan-protecting-sanctity-of-sabbath
I was in a Jewish neighborhood in Brooklyn on Tuesday and noticed fishing line strung around a building and wonder about what it was about.
Eruv extension.
And I thought Catholics had stupid fucking rules
Makes it so you can leave the house, not do work.
Either way, their brains are twisted.
And you really think God is fooled by this stuff?
It costs between $125,000 and $150,000 a year to maintain.
That much, properly invested, could eventually buy enough firearms to protect every Jewish person in New York City, or at least maybe bribe politicians to repeal The Sullivan Act so everyone can arm themselves.
The last thing Jews need to worry about is working on the Sabbath, especially when Jihadis don't take a break.
Does this wire grant any blessings unto the gentiles? That would be ironic, coz when the Jews figured out the Mormons were doing posthumous baptisms of Jews into the MORMON heaven, they were right pissed about it. Only when it was famous Jews, though. Anne Frank being the precipitating "celebrities in Heaven" case.
Saturday, Donny, is Shabbos, the Jewish day of rest. That means that I don't work, I don't drive a car, I don't fucking ride in a car, I don't handle money, I don't turn on the oven, and I sure as shit *don't fucking roll*!
Is cussing considered work?
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Over the line!
"You think I'm fuckin' around here? Mark it zero!"
Abide, dude.
Shut the fuck up donnie.
If the mostly deadliest disease known to man wouldn't stop them, not sure just the threat of terrorism will.
The Covid State agents?
King Ahaseurus?
Any bad Borscht Belt comedian?
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Andrew Cuomo.
In France, pro-Palestine protests and rallies were banned.
Let them eat challah.
(I don't know, you figure out a joke there.)
One might say they're cut.
Did the protesters out-rude the waiters catering their protest?
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Then they should ban the Sabbath too. Both sides.
Both sides? You mean Ozzy AND Dio era?
"Students have been routinely sorted into affinity groups and privilege hierarchies"
Yeah but chemjeff says the real problem with American education is public school parents who don't want their 6th graders learning Kendi.
#RadicalIndividualistsForRacialCollectivism
I believe chemjeff said "nu uh" until he was beaten over the head with so much evidence, he got embarrassed and stopped talking about CRT.
He never stops, he just regroups and then tries a different angle.
Remember when sarc said Mike and Jeff were the only other libertarians here? Wish I had bookmarked that one.
No, no, that was tulpa.
/sarc
It's always Tulpa. Drunk post? Tulpa. Post a lie then try to retract? Tulpa. Post insults and then claim it wasn't him? Tulpa.
Tulpa seems to be this magical being with the power to take over Sarc's, Laursen's, or Jeffy's account at anytime, anywhere, and post anything on those accounts.
The best was after the HO2 debacle when White Mike after six months of freely acknowledging the post decided to retcon the situation and claim it was actually Tulpa posting.
He still claims he isnt White Knight while praising how smart WK was.
Im surprised he didn’t make that claim after I went at him for threatening to kick my ass. Probably too scared.
Sarc is a pathetic little bitch and a shitweasel.
I think we all remember that from the documentary series revenge of the nerds
what the fuck's a frush?
Rep. Steve Scalise (R–La.) drops out of House speaker race.
He's had enough targets on his back, I guess.
What's the down side of not having a Speaker?
You're forced to use headphones.
https://babylonbee.com/news/aoc-asks-why-we-need-a-house-speaker-since-everyone-already-has-headphones
More goofy headlines?
He had his shot
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What if I don't like snake oil.
Ugh, next you'll say don't like copperhead road. You Canadians with Brian Adams an Crash Test Dummies...*shakes head*
"Our government has apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions!"
He was a secret Canadian government plot to ruin wedding receptions everywhere.
Not a problem. Just que up some Bare Naked Ladies.
Maybe BNL has two Billboard awards to your zero!
"Why does everyone leap to defend that band so aggressively?"
Aldo. Nova.
The Guess Who and Burton Cummings (solo) a much better pick
I believe America released a statement along the lines of "In light of the existence of Norm McDonald..." excusing several of Canada's celebrity transgressions.
But... how else do you keep them shiny if you don't oil them?
It is not clear to me why an "Ebony Alert" is needed in order to alert Californians to missing black women and children. Do Amber Alerts not work?
It actually seems like a setback for those who complain that missing blonde girl stories get more play in the news.
An "Ebony Alert" is needed because the other option, making things safe, requires a hell of a lot of hard work.
"Making things safe" as you put it, is racist due to the disparate demographic impacts of any steps taken to achieve that goal.
It has been determined (by race-grifters) that it is impossible for any race to commit more crimes than any other. The statistical reality can be dismissed through hand-waving, MAGA-blaming, "WHAT statistics?" and "Hey shut up." Follow the science, man.
Does it ever occur to anyone that some of these "missing" people might have good reasons for not wanting their families and associates to know where they are?
^ Tell me you’re too stupid to understand how an Amber Alert works more than 20 yrs. after the system was invented without saying, "I'm too stupid to understand how the Amber Alert system works more than 20 yrs. after it was invented."
Lemme guess, you’re obfuscating and playing stupid in defense of innocent pedophiles and against the ravenous, bloodthirsty homophobes that lurk behind every corner.
Aren't most reported missing children part of ugly custody disputes?
With a clear, identifiable abductor/assailant (vehicle), yeah. Very much a "heat-of-the-moment" or "crime-of-passion" oriented system, not a "My child didn't come home last night." or "I woke up and they were gone." system.
Newsom Assures New Phone Alert System For Black People Will Be 'Separate But Equal'
Damn.
The Bee is kind of on fire this week.
Of course, fish in a barrel. But still, good on them for rising to the occasion.
I think the fish have actually figured out how to shoot themselves this week.
They're fishing with dynamite... in a barrel.
ha! 🙂
"This new ‘Ebony Alert' system will mobilize task forces statewide to launch a search that is approximately three-fifths as strong and focused as a search for a missing white child.""
Noice.
Israel eases gun restrictions, and tells its citizens to arm themselves.
That's just going to escalate the gun violence. SMDH.
"Rep. Steve Scalise (R–La.) drops out of House speaker race."
This is your daily reminder that SQRSLY, who's in a constant state of panic that stolen election whining will inspire violence, just kinda forgot that a leftist tried to murder Scalise (and others!) after months of consuming RUSSIA HACKED THE ELECTION idiocy.
Could make the daily reminder "by the way, nearly all (if not all) political terrorist acts in recent years in the US have been by left wing activists"
But in a mostly peaceful way - - - - - - - -
Criticizong their violence is the real violence.
That's especially true if you count only actual terrorists and not FBI cosplayers.
Like the link Pluggo had yesterday? Every single one of them was wearing an FBI uniform minus the "FBI" on it.
I must remind you that this factual statement has been thoroughly handwaved by none other than Merrick Garland.
There's a lot of things that douchebag "forgets" when it serves his purposes.
SQRLSY cheers violent attacks on republicans. Most democrats do.
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Fuck Around
Find Out.
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(I had thought the O was Gaza, the Fs were the Mediterranean, and the A made no sense. Thanks for the enlightening me.)
Outstanding.
'In France, pro-Palestine protests and rallies were banned. Authorities say this is because they need to protect "public order," but cracking down on speech in this manner is a flagrant civil liberties violation.'
Public order or personal freedom. Choose one (at most).
There is an easy solution. Allow all protests, after all, let them take their masks off and show they are terrible humans.
Then, when they get out of order and destroy property or harm individuals (since they are lefty socialist whack jobs), crack some skulls
Win win
Aye. We seem to have confused protests with riots. The public transportation boycott in the south was a protest, and not prejudicial to good order. We can all protest without hurting others.
The two can and commonly overlap. We’ll respond accordingly.
"Public order or personal freedom. Choose one (at most)."
It feels increasingly like we're going to get neither.
Hamas today are just like the Nazis in 1945. They know they're done for, they know what they have coming, they never gave a rat's ass about their own civilians, and they'll do all they can to delay justice, not caring how many people die while they drag it out.
The war ends when Hamas either surrenders and frees the hostages, or there isn't anyone left in the Hamas hierarchy who's able to surrender. IDF's duty is to utterly destroy them, and it will be Mossad's duty to hunt their remnants down like Eichmann.
If you're a Gazan who obeys Hamas' order not to evacuate, I guess it sucks to be you, but that's not Israel's fault.
-jcr
Note that their leader is calling for global jihad while sitting comfortably in his luxury apartment in Doha. Not unlike Bulwark/Dispatch neocons who agitate for war while never having to undergo the hardships of it themselves.
Qatar has a moral and legal duty to arrest all the Hamassholes in their country, and extradite them to Israel for trial. Hamas obeys no international laws, so they're not entitled to the protection of diplomatic immunity.
-jcr
Time for the Israelis to build some gallows.
Misek will be here shortly to inform you that the Nazis were the good guys of the story.
Hamas spokesman gave an interview stating Iran is funding their attacks, they started planning after Bidens Afghanistan withdrawal, etc etc.
https://www.memri.org/tv/senior-hamas-official-ali-baraka-prisoner-swap-america-planning-invasion-two-years-russia-support
Hamas: Iran helped us by planning and funding our attack.
Iran: We might of helped a little bit.
Biden Administration: We'll never know how Hamas got the money or weapons. It's a mystery.
Hamas: It was Iran.
Biden Administration: I guess we'll never know.
Same people investigating this investigated the baggie in the white house.
I thought that was white nationalist terrorists, who are the number one threat to the US. Or something. Seems like that's the conclusion of every investigation by federal law enforcement.
Yup... this is the administrations official take
Certainly the 'professionals' in the IC
Un-fucking-real to me; Israel will settle the score.
Soon, no Iranian oil will flow to market; Kharg island will experience some kinetic issues. And the pipelines from Iran to China will develop some 'problems' as well. Iran will not walk away unscathed.
Cool.
But you realize you have to stop with the “never again” trope now, right?
Edit: At least as a guilt-tripping tactic.
Perfectly fine to invoke "never again" as a rallying cry for your holy war.
Of course, you have to acknowledge the validity of others doing the same against you too.
Biden: We'll never know where Hamas got that weaponry. The list of identifying information on the billions of dollars of weapons that were left behind (BY DIRECT ORDER)...was eaten by our dog. Who has been punished.
"...they started planning after Bidens Afghanistan withdrawal..."
Gave 'em a good idea of the sort of 'competence' they would be dealing with...
And put a shit ton of weaponry and vehicles on the market.
Mad Man Muntz: "I wanna give 'em away, but my wife won't let me!"
Droolin' Joe: "Here ya go, just take 'em"
The father if modern globalism Henry Kissinger states Europe may have stupidly gone too far in taking any and every refugee without attempts to assimilate their cultures into their own.
https://www.politico.eu/article/henry-kissinger-germany-let-in-way-too-many-foreigners/
Whenever his name comes up, I'm amazed he's still alive. He seemed old when I was a kid and he was Sec of State. Born May 27, 1923. 100 years old!
Maybe Hell doesn't want Henry Kissinger.
*snerk!*
Gee, ya think?
Roosevelt knew this, too:
"Let us say to the immigrant not that we hope he will learn English, but that he has got to learn it. Let the immigrant who does not learn it go back. He has got to consider the interest of the United States or he should not stay here. He must be made to see that his opportunities in this country depend upon his knowing English and observing American standards.
"We must in every way possible encourage the immigrant to rise, help him up, give him a chance to help himself. If we try to carry him he may well prove not well worth carrying. We must in turn insist upon his showing the same standard of fealty to this country and to join with us in raising the level of our common American citizenship.
"If I could I would have the kind of restriction which would not allow any immigrant to come here unless I was content that his grandchildren would be fellow-citizens of my grandchildren.
"In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here does in good faith become an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with every one else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed or birthplace or origin. But this is predicated upon the man’s becoming in very fact an American and nothing but an American.
"If he tries to keep segregated with men of his own origin and separated from the rest of America, then he isn't doing his part as an American.
"We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile. We have room for but one language here and that is the English language, for we intend to see that the crucible turns our people out as Americans, and American nationality, and not as dwellers in a polyglot boarding house; and we have room for but one soul [sic] loyalty, and that is loyalty to the American people."
Not very libertarian: Par for the FDR course.
https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1712881486284677360?t=cYkom-TbQ868iHMONfUi-Q&s=19
It's too late.
The police are massively outnumbered.
Is Europe headed for a civil war eventually?
These cultures just don't seem compatible.
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https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1712598913759203360?t=K454m3nxvqG4Dh4mfv9wRA&s=19
Pro-Hamas protesters at George Mason University chant “they’ve got tanks we’ve got hang gliders, glory to the resistance fighters.”
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https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1711749131709071496?t=plB-dgH0B4rhqztyHoA1iA&s=19
Tiktoker threatens that Jews in the US are “next.” Says colonizers in all countries “have every reason to be afraid” because they’re gonna be dealt with “hands on.”
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https://twitter.com/AetiusRF/status/1712857796000006245?t=M5r41WJo3nbAX9gT0JD-OA&s=19
A sitting house representative is wearing the military uniform of a foreign country?
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https://twitter.com/GuntherEagleman/status/1712600904661160187?t=KFrsTXjCgt9HIEsq2TqZoQ&s=19
This is France… Soon to be right here in America.
Open border problems
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https://twitter.com/RadioGenoa/status/1712557106388492553?t=XsuJ9VwtqPDR7Q-n4qcESg&s=19
Pro-Hamas Muslims in Brussels want Islamic Jihad in Europe. It's time for mass expulsions, we can't waste any more time.
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https://twitter.com/CovfefeAnon/status/1712913007477510159?t=LG5ZUivnDX8a25sk93Hd5Q&s=19
For context, he's saying this is *bad* because it's Israel
In other circumstances this doesn't happen or is a force of nature or something
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Personally loathe Kissinger...but he is so correct here it's insane.
Why did none of the geniuses who run the world now not realize this?
Getting awkward for the cleanest election ever crowd as democrats begin suing each other over elections based on fraud and illegal votes.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/dem-candidates-file-lawsuits-alleging-election-fraud-while-republicans
hearing in court, he is one of a growing number of Democrats who have filed lawsuits or an affidavit over election irregularities. When Republicans have done this, they have been routinely dismissed as “election deniers.”
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Since the 2020 presidential election, former President Donald Trump and other Republicans have raised concerns about election irregularities and are often called “election deniers” by Democrats and the media. However, Democrats largely do not receive the same label, despite their almost identical legal challenges in various jurisdictions.
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Connecticut limits who can return a voter’s absentee ballot, and the lawsuit alleges that video footage of a ballot drop box appears to show multiple people depositing multiple absentee ballots into the receptacle, — called ballot harvesting — including a Ganim supporter.
Chipotle Price Index continues to rise, as they raise prices for the 4th time in recent years. I'll have to ask shrike if it is inversely related to inflation and rig counts.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/chipotle-plans-fourth-price-hike-two-years-offset-inflation
Buttplug claims fluctuations in oil futures and precious metal prices are inflation related. Last week he was crowing that a drop in the price of gold showed that inflation wasn't happening.
Well, in addition to dishonesty, turd has a heaping helping of stupid.
Hard to say which he has more of.
I've moved way out into the country a few years ago, but I loved Chipotle when I lived near one. Now the closest one is about 35 minute drive, one-way AND is consistently rated very low (it might be the worst Chipotle in the state).
Given that, I've learned to make my own at home, as I have with a few other of my once-upon-a-time fast food favorites. The internet has any number of sources of copycat recipes, and some are pretty close and can be surprisingly easy.
Saves a ton of money too.
It's tied to spittin' tobacky.
…(all free speech that I personally find vile, but important to permit)…
When did Reason hire an actual libertarian? And how did she sneak past KMW?
White Mike hardest hit.
Haven't seen a Laursen post in a while. And I understand ENB's on maternity leave. Same person?
my vote is yes. and I miss 99% of my posts being mischaracterized.
Laursen puts a lot of effort into mischaracterizing 8 word posts.
"all free speech that I personally find vile, but important to permit"
Permitted, certainly. Which is not to say it should not be mocked, vilified, dragged into the sun and left to fry, nor that anyone espousing such loathsome--but free--speech should ever be acknowledged in any positive fashion by society.
In France, pro-Palestine protests and rallies were banned. Authorities say this is because they need to protect "public order," but cracking down on speech in this manner is a flagrant civil liberties violation.
A more forceful denunciation of going after speech than the 700 J6 prisoners who committed no violence or vandalism. Heh.
As an ex-subscriber, it's that kind of massive holes in Reason's libertarian logic that make me ex. The knee-jerk, blind, thoughtless immigration stance, as if "open borders" were the founding principal of libertarianism. The slimy acceptance of TDS, showing Reason staff to be blatant MSM wannabes. The mild covid skepticism. And the "if we don't look, it isn't there" stance towards the J6 victims of The Swamp, which is, and will hopefully someday be recognized as, one of our country's greatest miscarriages of justice...all these things discredit what used to be a monthly source of sincerely honest journalism. And all the old lions have given up and sought to learn the ways of dissembling, gaslighting and fact-selectivity that they once decried. Just so they can be more popular with the cool kids.
So many things the Reason staff just ignores. How about the fact that questions about a blatantly insecure voting process are met, not with explanations or reassurances, but with hysterical name-calling? Nah, Reason agrees with the name-calling. Impressive. Such a sophisticated take. How about when the intelligence agencies and the FBI and the DoJ conspire against a sitting president...how is that not a coup attempt?? Well, Reason staff don't like Trump so, who cares? Principle? What's that?
I'm past feeling how sad this is. Hopefully, any Reason staff who ever had any integrity will someday feel searing shame and regret. But I doubt it.
The goal of raising intrest rates was not to Chang economic policy, it was to squeeze the middle and lower class out of the housing market so Blackrock can buy houses in cash and rent them out, removing as many owners as possible. It literally the globalists stated strategy
Inflation is a result of too much money chasing not enough stuff.
Raising interest rates is supposed to reduce the money supply by discouraging borrowing.
The goal is less money chasing the same amount of stuff, lowering inflation.
There's nothing sinister about it.
You just explained the method.
Do you have a point?
Isn't Point a beer from Wisconsin?
Yes, you didn't refute the good Reverend's statement as claimed, you just said how they did it.
Then why didn't they raise interest rates until there was inflation? If his conspiracy theory is correct you'd think they'd have raised interest rates a while ago and would be keeping them that way.
Sarcasmic, this is all ordinary business practices writ large. Blackrock happens to be large enough and own enough banks now that they don't have to worry about high interest rates, so they're doing what every real estate player would love to do but normally can't. It's not the conspiracy theory you're trying to pretend it is.
That sounds like a company taking advantage of a situation rather than a conspiracy between them and the Fed to create the situation.
What if you found out that the people who run the Fed also own stock in Blackrock and it's subsidiary banks and companies, and many have been former executives of the same?
And what if you found out that many Blackrock associates used to work for the Fed?
Try having a little peek here and read the bios: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_Board_of_Governors#Current_members
I'd say that the actions that the Fed has taken are in line with their stated intentions and past actions. As in the steps they've taken to fight inflation were predictable and unsurprising. If those people didn't own stock in Blackrock or if Blackrock didn't exist, they'd likely have done nothing different.
You can do things for multiple reasons, sarcasmic, and no, this isn't completely in line with their past actions.
Let’s see.
I can trust what I’ve heard and read from educated people with degrees in things like economics, political science, and international politics, who don’t lie and deliberately mislead others in pursuit of a political agenda, or you.
Easy choice.
We all know you dont read sarc. You admitted a few days ago.
"educated people with degrees in things like economics, political science, and international politics, who don’t lie"
Oh sarcasmic...
Even if we pretend that they did actually disagree with me, a "top men" argument?
And you still claim to be libertarian?
“I know how to read a chart, and the chart tells me global warming is real”
the point of federal reserve inflation of the money supply is to steal money from the middle class and its really that simple.
The point is to keep inflation at a predictable 2% so people can plan around it.
if you believe that...
It is true that inflation is a hidden tax on saving. I won't disagree with you there. But that's not the point. By keeping it at 2%, that means people can plan ahead. You can park your money somewhere other than a savings account if you want. You can predict price increases. If you're a business you've got less uncertainty about the future. Compare that to a gold standard. When currency is pegged to a commodity, then the value of the currency fluctuates with the value of the metal. That means all kinds of volatility and unpredictability in the economy. Neither system is perfect.
There wasn't any good choice in that regard that didn't advantage them, though. They had the advantage of ZIRP loans for over a decade to ramp up housing costs by giving cash offers above list price. Now that the interest rates are high, they're the only ones who can afford any kind of loans in an inflated environment.
Bernanke and Yellin ultimately screwed the little guy by refusing to increase interest rates back to pre-2008 levels long after the recession had actually ended. And the latter got rewarded for that by being appointed Secretary of the Treasury.
Is it just me or is it kinda ironic that people posting anti-Israel pro-Hamas comments online are getting canceled?
You dont know what cancel culture means apparently.
Nobody is going to their employers over 10 year old statements, contacting advertisers to deplatform them, etc. When a journalist contacts an employer saying "some people claim this person is X or said Y" is cancel culture.
Employers acting on their own based on concurrent statements is not cancel culture.
I know you have a need to make excuses for youd extending the acts the last 5 years. But learn what it is before you attempt a comparison.
That's about as retarded as claiming only white people can be racist.
In what way?
He isnt smart enough to understand.
His mommy said he as smart. His mommy lied.
I never said “culture” in my post. He’s arguing against cancel culture to dishonestly move the goalposts from the act of canceling to the cancel culture. His point being that the folks getting canceled can’t be being canceled because they’re not being canceled by cancel culture. That’s akin to observing a black person engaging in an act of racism against a white person, and saying it’s not racist because racism requires having power over the other person and since blacks don’t have power over whites it can’t be racist.
Remember that every word he says to me is in bad faith. He assumes things not said so he can argue against them and then call me a liar when I disagree. It's so tiresome.
"I never said “culture” "
Pedantry, at best.
Part of being canceled is being blacklisted, which is what is happening to these little loudmouths who are used to being the ones doing the canceling.
But I wasn't talking about them being canceled by a cancel culture. That would mean a new cancel culture has risen up against them, which is not the case nor what I was saying.
And that's what JesseAz is arguing against. Because it's something I didn't say. He has yet to argue against anything I actually did say. He always finds some implication that isn't there and insists that's what I really meant.
I just thought it was ironic just-desserts for people likely to engage in cancel culture to get a taste of their own medicine. That’s all. Full stop.
He has to turn it into a big tirade about how I don’t understand cancel culture blah blah blah… and with him always arguing in bad faith there’s nothing I can say to get him to stop. He'll just make up some new thing that I didn't say and argue against it. I’m not interested in playing his game.
I never said “culture” in my post. He’s arguing against cancel culture to dishonestly move the goalposts from the act of canceling to the cancel culture.
I just thought it was ironic just-desserts for people likely to engage in cancel culture to get a taste of their own medicine.
Back to back.
It isnt the other commenters fault that you are ignorant on every topic.
In the case you try to be using as a cudgel, CEOs are finding out on their own who is making these statements. It isnt someone going to CEOs demanding people be canceled. It is literal freedom of association.
But you only care about how you can use it politically.
If someone shows up to an interview in a Nazi outfit and the hiring manager doesn't hire them, it isnt cancel culture.
If someone is hired by a company and a 3rd party goes and asks the company why they hired them when they did unrelated X, that is cancel culture. It is the 3rd party demand to remove employment that is cancel culture.
Again, try to educate yourself before trying to score retarded political points.
Worst state for gerrymandering? Give you a hint, it's blue, not red.
https://www.thecentersquare.com/illinois/article_3040f838-6946-11ee-b0b2-c3fe2a38f569.html
The anti-gerrymandering group Common Cause gave Illinois an “F” grade, citing a lack of public participation that has routinely gotten in the way of producing political maps reflective of the state’s demographics. The state was sued for a version of their maps, with allegations of prioritizing partisanship over Black Illinoisans impacted by the drawn districts.
In one lawsuit, the East St. Louis Branch of the NAACP argued that in the Metro East area, concentrated areas of Black voters were split into three separate House districts solely for the purpose of protecting white Democratic incumbents.
“Our overall concern was that at the end of the day, it is the politicians drawing the lines and not the folks who they seek to represent,” said Jay Young, executive director of Common Cause Illinois.
And the asshole who signed off on the maps...
“This is a national problem,” Pritzker said Wednesday evening. “If you’re going to solve redistricting and the problem of redistricting, you have to do it at the national level.”
No, fat fuck, you don't. You signed off on the worst map in the US, and that's at your level, the state level, dipshit.
Hilarious that Democrats are suing because the map is getting other Democrats elected. Illinois is a joke.
Gerrymandering is wrong regardless of party. I note, however, that Illinois is joined in having the worst grade by 5 other states, who no doubt also incur your wrath.
The other states receiving a failing grade in the report were Alabama, Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, Tennessee and Wisconsin.
Another gerrymander source:
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/most-gerrymandered-states
There's a fair degree of overlap, I notice.
That's kind of amazing. It's like he believes his supporters can be lied to with impunity!! Oh...wait...
"...Paul Krugman, of course, claims we "won" the war on inflation at "very little cost," which is patently absurd..."
Consider the source...
I'm just going post this poll right here.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/poll-earlier-year-found-more-democrats-sympathise-palestinians-israelis
A Gallup poll released in March of this year found that for the first time more Democrats in the U.S. sympathise with Palestinians than with Israelis, a stark finding in the midst of current events.
Gallup’s 2023 World Affairs Poll revealed that among Democrat voters 49% to just 38% said their sympathy lies more with the Palestinian side than with Israelis.
On the same poll, Republicans are 78% Israel, 11% Palestinians, 11% neutral/no opinion.
Democrats who said they are neutral also fell to 13%, a new low.
Overall, the poll found that 54% of Americans have more sympathy for Israelis, with 31% saying they sympathise more with Palestinians and 15% remaining neutral.
You mean Buttplug might not have been being entirely honest when he said Republicans were the antisemitic party?
very weird, it seems to be exclusively democrats/socialists of all colors at these "gas the jews" rallies, and not a "white supremacist right wing nazi" to be seen.
"and not a “white supremacist right wing nazi” to be seen."
Give the glowies some time.
Pluggo, honest? I've met more honest used car salesmen.
The fundamentalist Christians with their "hate the Jews, love Israel" position vote Republican.
Lol, wut?
What an idiotic assertion
These people are...?
Yes.
Then maybe those "fundamentalist Christians" don't hate Jews after all? Has that thought ever entered your mind?
Normally, I believe what I see and hear rather than think up stuff that contradicts that.
The Neo-Nazis gravitate to the GOP, you idiot.
Now go find your Tiki Torch for the next Unite the Right protest.
Cite? We know the whole Tiki Torch thingy was put on by the Lincoln Project, dork.
Didn't we prove yesterday that the only people wielding Tiki Torches were your pedo pals at the Lincoln project?
And doesn't that poll show that the Neo-Nazis are actually all voting (D)?
Now go find your pal Misek. I think he's lonely.
No, you liar. Neo-Nazis love Fatass Donnie. Go over to Stormfront or Daily Stormer or whatever the racist anti-Semite sites are today and they all bask in the MAGA love.
The most prominent ones endorsed Joe.
The very people you cite want segregation. The only party pushing segregation is the left. They have the same goals
Soros even funds groups advocating for segregation.
You're such a liar.
Sarc is correct. There is no point in engaging a full-time liar like you.
Jesse proves Pluggo a liar.
Pluggo: "You're a liar. Sarcasmic is right."
Laughing my ass off, seriously.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.
What was the lie?
You disagreed with his assertion.
"Neo-Nazis love Fatass Donnie"
But always end up endorsing the Democrat.
Would you like the cites again? Remember how well that turned out for you?
I've got to hand it to you though, it takes guts to try and assert that the guy with the Jewish family, who moved the embassy to Jerusalem, and the first president to pray at the wall while in office is somehow secret leader of the antisemites.
turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Got a citation and link for that, dipshit?
He will post some liberal opinion writer making the bald assertion.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Time for some fancy "Israel /= Jews" formulation that allows the Dems to be anti-Jewish without being anti-Jewish.
I'm more into answering polls about who's in favor of baby-beheading and military child-targeting.
And yet, somehow, more Jews will vote democrat than republican.
(especially in New York)
Plenty of room in Egypt.
But only Israel is blockading Gaza. That's what they tell us.
Egypt wants Gazans so much that they've built a serious wall that even is intended to stop tunneling through the border up to 20 meters (yes, meters, not feet) deep.
I was told walls don't work.
So we need to hire their contractors for the US border?
There might be two big guys then.
Bugs Bunny hardest hit.
shouldn't have taken that left turn in Giza.
^
The post-COVID pivot-to-Zoom when under threats of violence...
It's the worship equivalent of hiding under your desk during a school shooting instead of getting the fuck out of there or going on offense. It's in the interest of the power elite to teach passivity in the face of aggression.
Therein lies cause for even more sobriety when it comes to hostages.
The hostages are goners. Only the possibility of trading them for ransom might keep them alive.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12626287/idf-flotilla-13-sufa-checkpoint-hamas-hostages.html
Astonishing moment IDF elite force retakes military post overrun by Hamas, rescuing 250 hostages, killing 60 Hamas fighters and capturing top terror leader
Goners...
That happened on Saturday - inside Israel.
One of the saddest accounts I have is read the father yesterday who upon being told his young daughter had been killed and not taken to Hamas -- thank God she was dead and not a hostage.
I don't see much possibility of negotiating anything. Israel has sealed off Gaza, and the equation is simple: water, electric to be turned on in exchange for all of the hostages freed, all bodies turned over.
Other than that, Hamas members better make peace with themselves because they are about to die violently.
Not violently enough. A 5.56 FMJ to the x-ring is way to humane for these fucks. I encourage the IDF to commit to the bayonet.
In fact, I encourage the IDF to resurrect the 17 inch, triangular blades pig stickers the Brits used on the Brown Bess.
Aim low, thrust, twist and rip.
“The Ebony Alert will ensure that vital resources and attention are given so we can bring home missing Black children and women in the same way we search for any missing child and missing person,” Bradford said in the release.
Newspeak. It does the opposite of that, treating Black missing persons differently. And, since when is a 25-year-old a child? When they're Black? What does that say?
soft bigorty, low expectations
High profile black people need to start speaking out against insulting nonsense like this. I’m sure it’s been very amusing to sit back and watch white people call each other racist, but it’s time to try something else if things are ever gonna get any better.
Don't expect the "high profile" black people, who benefit from things just as they are, to advocate for change. They're not interested in things "getting better".
As it is, they can benefit from their political connectedness, talent, or looks and still claim to be "victims".
Wouldn't this just let racists know which missing child alerts to ignore?
Yeah, it's similar to how giving Black children silly made-up names makes it easy for racist employers to know which applications to toss.
are you saying LaQuantarvious would have been an excellent choice to manage that hedge fund?
LaQuantarvious
Be careful with that. Mother's Lament is busy scouring the site for covert racism. His cancel impulse if strong.
Dude, you ooze racism like a slime trail from a slug.
Lol, funny but true.
You aren't covert. Youre very overt with your racism.
Shit. I was getting my comment ready while you were posting yours.
"White man's burden" style bullshit for the 21st century.
From the Ebony Alert article:
“The Ebony Alert will ensure that vital resources and attention are given so we can bring home missing Black children and women in the same way we search for any missing child and missing person,” Bradford said in the release.
What? This new alert is going to make sure the blacks are searched for the same way any person is searched for?
It takes some high end lying to camouflage this bullshit as anything but race pandering, and pretty half-assed pandering at that.
“CA said we’re getting $1,000,000 reparation checks”
“We’ve changed our minds, here’s your ‘Ebony Alert’ though, dummies”
Tim Scott blames opponents for attempts to out him:
Tim Scott suggests opponents are planting stories about his unmarried status
“People plant stories that have conversations to distract from our rise in the polls, to distract from our size of our audience,” Scott said. “What we’ve seen is that poll after poll says that the voters don’t care, but it seems like opponents do care, and so media coverage that opponents plant — it’s OK. Good news is we just keep fighting the good fight.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/tim-scott-suggests-opponents-are-planting-stories-unmarried-status-rcna103984
You have an odd fixation on Tim Scott. Do you secretly want to make out with him or something? A secret crush, Pluggo?
We all know Pluggo is not attracted to adults.
People be aksing questions.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Racists be peddling narratives.
OK, but that doesn't explain your oddball fixation on Scott. You surely must have a homosexual crush on the man. Come out of the closet, Pluggo.
I just hate liars like Tim Scott. Him being in the closet is just a symptom of the mask he is wearing. I respect Nikki Haley for calling out Big Spending Trump-Tards. Scott runs cover for MAGA. He truly is the "Sambo" that the Congressman called him.
I don't think he's the one in the closet, Pluggo.
And Sambo said that slavery was better for blacks than getting a check from the government. Really, fuck that shit-stain. I will continue to be critical of his shitty worldview.
"Sambo". Interesting that you use that term. Outside of referring to the now-defunct restaurant chain, the only people who use terms like that, that I know of, are people who tend to be deeply racist. People like yourself, Pluggo.
Odd how the FIERCELY HETEROSEXUAL Corey Booker does not get similar questions, ain't it?
Plug's homophobic posts just highlight the fact that leftists are actually bigots. No one I know in South Carolina cares if Tim Scott might be a closet gay or not, and more than they care about the color of his skin. It's only his opponents on the left who bring any of that up, and they usually do it in a vile manner.
Of course, any minority running with an (R) gets the same treatment.
They call themselves "progressives" and "anti-racists", they called Georgia's updated voting laws Jim Crow 2.0.
In reality, they are base human beings, simply filled with venom and racist vitriol to be turned on anyone with whom they disagree.
Democratic lawmakers and liberal media outlets alike have responded to the Republican Party's gains with Black and Latino voters by attacking Black and Hispanic Republicans.
Mayra Flores's opponent in November, Rep. Vicente Gonzalez (D., Texas), argued in June that he is more qualified than Flores because he "wasn't born in Mexico." Weeks later, Arizona representative Rubén Gallego (D.) said a female Hispanic Republican running for Congress in the state was not sufficiently Latina because she took her husband's last name.
The New York Times, meanwhile, said Flores's win marked the "Rise of the Far-Right Latina," citing the Republican's support for religiosity, strong borders, and traditional values. A Texas political blog that has received campaign funds from Gonzalez also attacked Flores last month, referring to the congresswoman as "Miss Frijoles," "Miss Enchiladas," and a "cotton pickin' liar."
"Who does this Mayra Flores think she is? Somebody said she was crowned Miss Frijoles 2022 in San Benito," Texas political blogger Jerry McHale, who has received $1,200 from Gonzalez's campaign, wrote on July 2. "She isn't in congressman Vicente Gonzalez's league. She isn't even in the bush leagues unless she doesn't shave her p**sy."
I despise progressives and everything they stand for. It is you Wokies that are adopting the language and piety of the far left.
But I also despise conservative Bible-thumpers like Tim Scott.
Yet all your talking points are Wokie.
Why you rely so heavily on their primary sources of news like Salon and Media Maters.
Yeah, the "non-partisan" Media Matters. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
Yet you only target people like Tim Scott. I wonder why that is.
They call themselves “progressives” and “anti-racists”, they called Georgia’s updated voting laws Jim Crow 2.0.
In reality, they are base human beings, simply filled with venom and racist vitriol to be turned on anyone with whom they disagree.
Democratic lawmakers and liberal media outlets alike have responded to the Republican Party’s gains with Black and Latino voters by attacking Black and Hispanic Republicans.
When Herschel Walker was running in Georgia, the liberal media and his opponents had a lot to say about the color of his skin (and Tim Scott's:
"Herschel Walker's candidacy is a white insult to Black people."
"Walker is what they think of us, and they think we’re big, ignorant, and easily manipulated. They think we’re shady or criminal. They think we’re tools to be used. The Walker campaign exists as a political minstrel show: a splashy rendition of what white Republicans think Black people look and sound like."
"I make a hard distinction between Black conservatives and these tokens" – referring to Senator Tim Scott (R-SC) and Walker – "who are out here right now, shucking and jiving for their white handlers."
"Walker has positioned himself into being a useful fool for those who don't have the best interests of Black people or this democracy at heart."
"[Herschel Walker's] irrelevant to the Black community, and we should treat him as such."
"Herschel Walker, the football star turned Georgia Senate candidate, is an animated caricature of a Black person drawn by white conservatives."
"Most white people in the South vote 'R' like their entire white supremacist project depends on it."
"Georgia Republicans want Walker because he's Black and Warnock is Black, and they think they can defeat Warnock in November if they can shave just a little of the Black vote..."
"Mr. Walker was merely a vessel for the G.O.P. and Mr. Trump's ambitions."
"He's a puppet on a string, and somebody's pulling those strings really good."
All of those quotations and more sound like they came off Pluggo's sticky keyboard.
That's the paranoia that comes from believing CRT.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Welcome to the white party.
https://twitter.com/mozgovaya/status/1712562024440549450?t=_bPStageP6ppTl0HvVZBEA&s=19
#Jewish students at @UW campus witnessing pro-#Palestinian rally break down. “They want us dead, how you are allowing this?”
#Hamas #Gaza
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I saw that Nardz. The first thing I thought: This is just like the visceral reaction that happens when an uberlib has their delusional beliefs swept aside.
"You were a useful idiot for us, all along. Thanks for your support. Now STFU and get back into line"
Intro to Being White in the Late Progressive Era 101
When they realize that Fascism was a progressive ideology.
They want her dead, and yet she's standing next to a crowd of them, not dead.
I think the they is Hamas in that statement. Not the pro-Hamas morons protesting. Kind of like the Germans who cheered on the Nazis solving the 'Jewish problem' and then acted surprised when shown the camps.
I think the they is Hamas in that statement.
She's clearly complaining to the campus official about what the people right there are saying, which de-escalates the immediate problem from "they want me dead" to "they're saying things I don't like."
Still, in her defense people can want someone did without actually wanting to do the deed themselves, ask any chickenhawk whose never worn a uniform.
True, but no one in this situation is actually threatening her personally. She just happens to be adjacent to people expressing ill intent towards people in a foreign country that she identifies with.
Thus, the answer to the question "how you are allowing this?" is "because it is allowed. Feel free to chant 'death to Palestinians' all you like - it is your right to do so."
I don't disagree, but if she is an Israeli going to school here in the states, she very well could have been personally impacted. It's also jarring even for non-Israeli's, especially Jews who are being told to avoid going to synagogue. Bush may have been wrong about a lot of things, but his telling people to go to the mall, ball games etc after 9/11 was the right way to respond to terrorism. Be vigilant but don't let the dickhead stop you from living your life.
I don’t disagree, but if she is an Israeli going to school here in the states, she very well could have been personally impacted. It’s also jarring even for non-Israeli’s, especially Jews who are being told to avoid going to synagogue
I definitely see why she's upset. It's the "how is this allowed?" part that I take issue with. She doesn't have the right to silence them, and she isn't obligated to stand next to them. Given the current atmosphere and threats that have been made, though, campus police need to be watching this protest very closely. If they're worried about Ann Coulter fans, they need to be worried about these people, too.
On the flip side, given that it’s a college these days, it probably has some pretty significant limitations on speech, even if that speech doesn’t hit “Massacres are great”. See earlier comments about microaggressions and the like.
i.e.: "How is this allowed when 'misgendering' someone will get you expelled?"
“How is this allowed when ‘misgendering’ someone will get you expelled?”
Now that is a very fair question.
https://twitter.com/Klaus_Arminius/status/1712735259291267426?t=AIaGF7_Soiwe2ClqpjxmSA&s=19
France: —Emmanuel Macron swiftly cracksdown on pro-Palestine migrants protesting in Paris
In contrast, when Algerian migrants rioted in July, burning several residential buildings and government properties, Macron was partying at a concert with his wife
Why the sudden crackdown
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https://twitter.com/AuronMacintyre/status/1712844423619330176?t=zMRi8k1s7iWAFjpZPw4Z3A&s=19
If you're hoping that the cognitive dissonance will eventually collapse the progressive movement let me tell you that's a long wait for a train that is not coming
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https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1712493138399363405?t=p-ec2Co7usFt48vwRpOliQ&s=19
In this video, you can see the initial moments where Hamas approached the main gate of the kibbutz village
After they fail to enter, they wait for a vehicle of villagers to open the gate, then ambush and kill everyone inside
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https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1712565113394245724?t=akpkCJeqnxajG0JzmFlFSw&s=19
BREAKING: Footage of the initial Hamas attack on the kibbutz village
In this you can see the taking of hostages, looting, homes set on fire with people inside
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Probably the most disturbing one I saw was them slowly beheading a man with a garden hoe, one swing at a time, while he was bleeding out on the ground after they came in and murdered the rest of his family
Yea. Was an East Asian guest worker too.
An IDF spokesman says residents will be permitted to return once the war is over, but it's not clear what will be left if the Israeli military successfully carries out its plans.
And now we are getting to see this unfold. Hamas is telling Gazans to stay because if they leave they will never be allowed to return. That this is a repeat of the 1948 Naqba.
If Reason ever linked to anything other than the NYT or WaPo or their own fucking stories, they might become a source of real info instead of just propaganda and ideology.
In other news - it appears that China is also weighing in on its take re what's happening. Advocating a two-state solution. Qatar and Saudi are doing the same.
Obviously Hamas doesn't give a shit about that but it puts Palestine right back at the top of the international agenda. Which would be a Hamas objective. And the reality is that for the last 25 years (ever since Rabin was assassinated), its been Israel that hasn't been interested in the two-state. So much so that the Abraham Accords have completely ignored Palestinians.
The politics is beginning to play out.
There is no "solution" possible. Not one-state, two-state, or three-state. The violent conflict will continue for centuries. The USA needs to bug out and let them have their fun.
I agree there's no solution. But the chimera of 'the solution' is what keeps the Middle East at the center of world attention and there's people on all sides who want to keep that going.
There is absolutely a solution. Just ask the city fathers of Carthage.
1. The NYT and WaPo are pro-palestine - like you are.
2. Good, then we can advocate for the two state solution re: Taiwan.
We already have a two-state solution re: Taiwan; we're just not allowed to say so out loud.
First you have to get Taiwan interested in a two-state solution. So far, they aren't.
It doesn't matter what they think.
NYT and WaPo are as American establishment as you can get. You people are truly beyond moronic.
You need a laxative to unclog your brain.
"NYT and WaPo are as American establishment as you can get. You people are truly beyond moronic."
JFree just posted that. Really, he did.
He is a fucking imbecilic piece of shit, ain't he?
Lol. They are leftist rags.
ill give Jfear one small "kind of right".
They are fully in cahoots with the spooks (who launder info through them) and American DEMOCRAT establishment.
But they absolutely just push the far left narrative of the day
And the reality is that for the last 25 years (ever since Rabin was assassinated), its been Israel that hasn’t been interested in the two-state.
Israel has proposed several two-state solutions. The Palestinians have rejected all of them because they aren't interested in anything other than pushing the Israelis out and taking back Palestine under its pre-mandate status.
So much so that the Abraham Accords have completely ignored Palestinians.
Because Arab leaders don't give two shits about the Palestinians. They don't even want them living in their own countries because they're such a destabilizing force that demand absolute dedication to taking back Palestine. Jordan took them in, and they assassinated the nation's king, set up their own rump state, and tried to topple the regime in the span of 25 years. Lebanon took them in, and they fomented a civil war. Kuwait took them in, and they acted as spies that opened the door for Iraq's invasion. Because of that, absolutely no one will take them in on a permanent basis anymore. Egypt only lets them in for trade, and then makes damn sure they walk back across the Sinai border into Gaza every night.
If Arabs--their own people--don't trust them, why the fuck would Israel or the US?
A good start would be to bulldoze all of old Jerusalem so that no one wants it. The Dome of the Rock, the old Temple, the Church of the Sepulchre – whatever all those old structures are called.
Then put a strip mall up with a Starbucks and McDonalds.
Capitalism triumphs.
Then I would put a bar in that mall.
Drink specials every day. Rusty Nail and Virgin Bloody Mary only $5.
The TDS-addled asshole turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
You must've been rock hard when the Taliban blew up those 1,500 year old Buddha statues.
Were Buddhists waging a holy war over those statues?
Capitalism triumphs.
I knew that would piss you off.
Destroy things that people wage war over. Got it.
So if somebody wages war over capitalism should we destroy it to?
Your thinking isn't even puddle deep, Pluggo. I guess without those daily talking points your pretty much fucked, huh.
Worst analogy ever from the moronic Canuck.
Capitalism is like a Buddhist shrine and can be destroyed?
You must really, really hate Ayn Rand.
Umm, do you know what an analogy is, Plugstick? Because that wasn't an analogy, it was a conclusion.
"Capitalism is like a Buddhist shrine and can be destroyed?"
According to your pals, anyway.
Lenin's Brilliant Plot to Destroy Capitalism
Remember that turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
A good start would be to bulldoze all of old Jerusalem so that no one wants it.
Hahaha, yeah, and rock and roll and blue jeans will make the former Soviet Union and China into democractic states.
But it worked so well for Buttplug's neo-con pals with Iraq.
Bush/Cheney are your political soul-mates, pal.
I'm not the one fondly quoting the Cheney's, McCain, Romney, Kristol, Frum, Goldberg, Max Power, David French, etc. That's all you.
Most of them are proudly escaping the GOP Plantation and that pisses you off.
And landing squarely in democrats open arms.
Escaping? More like being kicked off the island. Good riddance to the neocons, who, I might add, originally came from the Democrats to whence they now return.
https://twitter.com/SwordMercury/status/1712768463243010436?t=B6VEcOOJFoV8yELIoh2LCA&s=19
Really cool that the cold war was just a fight between Trotskyism and Stalinism and the Trotskyites won (after which they literally decided to implement the plan of permanent worldwide revolution, starting in the middle east).
Americans really got played, didn't they?
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https://twitter.com/AJiazhang/status/1712795194125427095?t=HoyZCtmWHV4oxCVf39uBVA&s=19
In the Stalin vs Trotsky battle, Stalin was the conservative.
Then the Trotskyites fled to the US and became our “conservatives.”
"Most of them are proudly escaping the GOP Plantation and that pisses you off."
FUCK NO.
Honest Buttplug, you can have every single neocon your little heart might desire.
Hell, if the neocons want to escape the "GOP plantation" then they have my blessing. I'll personally pay their DNC membership fees. They can all be yours.
Who would have guessed that money can't buy freedom, especially when the buyer is also a slaver?
Not Nixon.
While Nixon opening the door to China was certainly a strategic blunder on a biblical scale, in fairness to him it did take decades for that to all to play out. The Clintons turning China into a personal piggy bank is probably the watershed for them realizing how easily bought off American politicians and globohomo corporations were.
With the Soviets, there's a fantastic interview with Nixon sometime before he died where he's taking about the precariousness of democracy in Russia, and how the system needed to establish its credibility for people to buy into it--because if it didn't, they'd go right back to an authoritarian form of government just like they'd always had. The US then proceeded to sponsor a drunk puppet in office, exercising election interference in 1996 to such a brazen degree that Time Magazine wrote an article on it--just like it did when it documented the 2020 color revolution and election manipulation. The puppet then proceeded to fuck things up so badly the Russians decided that liberal democracy wasn't worth the effort and turned to Putin to straighten things out.
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Israel has proposed several two-state solutions.
There was never any proposed two-state before Israel made peace with Jordan in 1994 because the 'solution' by Israel before then was sovereignty over everything they occupied. Rabin was assassinated in 1995 because it was possible that he would have come round to a two-state solution. Netanyahu was always on the side of Rabin's assassin. Ehud Barak supported two-state - and even proposed an initial map at the 2000 summit. Here's a Palestinian version of that map - with Jewish settlements inside chopped up areas of 'Palestinian control'. Those truly are apartheid reservations not anything resembling a 'state'. There is no later map and geography is kind of important. That summit apparently had Clinton offering stuff that may or may not have been real but wtf is Clinton and certainly Clinton is not Israel. At any rate - that summit failed, the 2nd intifada started, and nothing has happened since.
Arab leaders don’t give two shits about the Palestinians.
Yeah. Neither does anyone else. That's why they are stateless refugees. The irony is that that situation is quite similar to another ethnicity nearby. And the irony of the solution for that ethnicity is that that solution is what creates the problem for Palestinians.
For if a Jew born in Warsaw or Brooklyn or Kathmandu can always have a homeland in Jerusalem - where does a Palestinian born in Jerusalem have a home?
A Palestinian born in Jerusalem does have a home, Israel. Israel doesn't deny citizenship to Arabs. The problem is Palestinians don't want to Israel to exist, and many reject the citizenship offered to them. Fuck, can you get any more wrong on these issues? Palestinian Arabs don't have a home. Oh, they do have a home they just don't like the fact they have to share it the Jews, they are so oppressed. Fucking simp.
The problem is Palestinians don’t want to Israel to exist
Some Palestinians don't want Israel to exist, and these Palestinians are concentrated in Gaza.
Some Israelis want Israel governed by the Torah and to be an ethno-state, and it's not hard to see why Arab Muslim citizens of Israel would be uncomfortable with this.
If we're going to accept the premise that "Jews don't have a home without Israel existing as a sovereign Jewish state," then yes - Palestinians don't have a home. But neither do Kurds. Neither do Sikhs. Neither do Assyrians. Neither do Basques. Neither do Yazidis. Neither do Copts. The list goes on an on.
In the end, the fundamental sticking point is ethno-nationalism and the notion that if other races live near your home then you don't have a home.
According to the polling I've seen, and yes it's a bare majority, but still a majority of Palestinians feel Israel doesn't have a right to exist, a far larger percentage of those living in Gaza, which does seem to bias the results, but not an insignificant amount of Palestinians even in the more moderate West Bank hold that view. The percentage of Jews living in Israel who want a society ruled by the Torah and Israel be an ethno-national state is a tiny percentage of Israelis. It's like the number of Christians who want America to be an ethno-national, Christian nation, yes they exist but they're such a small percentage anyone claiming to be worried about them is either using it to justify their behavior or irrational.
If you're a Palestinian ethno-nationalist who's being asked if a Jewish ethno-state has a right to exist in Palestine, it's not hard to see why a majority would answer "no."
yes they exist but they’re such a small percentage anyone claiming to be worried about them is either using it to justify their behavior or irrational
Yet they've successfully kept Israel from adopting a formal written Constitution.
But yes, in fairness, that's a majority of Palestinians, although it's only a slight one. I should have said "not all" rather than "some."
Polls are worse than ridiculous for hypothetical questions and abstractions.
On the other side - the more extreme religious Zionist parties are the third largest combo in the Knesset. And would be larger except that some factions are illegal
Polls are actual data. The rhetorical and hypothetical questions your side brings up is only done to instill fear. You're really overstating how "more extreme" the "religious Zionist parties are".
I'm not overstating anything about how extreme some of these parties are. The Minister of Internal Security - Itamar Ben-Gvir - and The Minister of Finance (in charge of expanding settlements) - Bezalel Smotrich - are two examples
It's not just that they are extreme. It's that Netanyahu gave them cabinet positions deliberately intending to create as many problems as possible.
Oh, what has anything these guys done to give credibility to your claims? Right, nothing. I don’t see anything in Israel resembling and overtly religious Zionist ideology. Maybe, just maybe, Ben-Gvir and Smotrich aren't who you make them out to be.
Again, you’re only instilling fear based on overblown accusations.
[T]hey aren’t interested in anything other than pushing the Israelis out and taking back Palestine under its pre-mandate status.
Wait, they want the Turks to take back over? 😀
I mean, if they miss the Ottomans so much, maybe Turkey will take them all in! 😀
JFree, the ground war hasn't even started. This evening, it will. Hamas members will be found, pursued, and then killed. They will die violent deaths. Israel will be issuing one-way tickets on the Paradise Train for the foreseeable future.
Oslo (Two States) is dead.
Disengagement is dead.
Conflict management (mowing the lawn) is dead.
They are failed policies. What emerges policy-wise, post Simchat Torah War, is unknown. All I will say is that level of thinking that created these failed policies cannot be the same level of thinking post-war. Something new must emerge.
I agree that those policies are dead. Problem is that the failure of them is all Netanyahu's. He's not new to office. If he had some ideas of how to fix anything (beyond simple ethnic cleansing), then he would have had decades to do something beyond just ignore it. Now he is simply reacting emotionally and in anger to a plan put in place by Hamas.
This doesn't seem like a good way to start.
JFree...Failure has many Fathers = Problem is that the failure of them is all Netanyahu’s. He’s not new to office.
They were all invested in those failed policies to some degree: Barak, Hertzog, Lapid, Olmert, Gantz, Netanyahu, etc.
That has changed.
Short-term, Israelis will rally round what they need to do right now.
But it won't take long before people begin to voice their criticism. It's already happening.
Here's a 19 year old girl who was at Kibbutz Be'eri when it was attacked criticizing the dependence on tech and Iron Dome while the IDF itself was in the West Bank helping settlers take over Palestinian land.
[Which as an aside really raises questions about Israel's tech sector which is heavily dependent on security, surveillance, AI, and all the police state stuff that is market tested and 'proven' in Gaza and on Palestinians in West Bank. Not that 'MAGA libertarians' here will ever question police state technology.]
Or a journalist proclaiming The End of the Netanyahu Doctrine -
Did his plan to preserve Hamas in Gaza as a tool for keeping the strip separate from the West Bank and the Palestinian Authority weak finally backfire?
or Netanyahu's words at a Likud meeting a couple years ago -
anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state needs to support strengthening Hamas. This is part of our strategy, to isolate Palestinians in Gaza from Palestinians in Judea and Samaria.
You mean it will be like hundreds of years under the Ottomans?
Israel pulled troops and settlers out in 2005 and were rewarded with the election of Hamas and constant terrorist attacks.
Um, the only election Hamas "won" (44%) was all of the Palestinian territories, not just Gaza.
Hamas just took over Gaza, no elections at all.
Even Wikipedia admits that.
"Legislative elections were held in the Palestinian territories on 25 January 2006 in order to elect the second Palestinian Legislative Council (PLC), the legislature of the Palestinian National Authority (PNA). The result was a victory for Hamas, contesting under the list name of Change and Reform, which received 44.45% of the vote.
These were the last contested elections to be held before Hamas took over the Gaza Strip in 2007; no new elections have been held since."
Hmmm, didn't something similar happen in some Central European country sometimes around 1929? It also seems they also had a problem with the Jews too, if I remember right. Can anyone help me out here?
Did you hear Putin's remarks on this? I was rather blown away. Yes, it's just a statement, but holy shit it touched on some serious points.
Putin is the most legit world leader of the past 50 years
Putin is indeed a very intelligent and well spoken gangster.
Alexander Mercouris (of the Duran) read the transcript out on his podcast. I was working while he was reading out the statement on the conflict, and I actually stopped what I was doing and listened to it in full. I couldn't help but be impressed.
The statement didn't malign ANY side with acidic remarks. It condemned the killing of innocents and non-combatants. It acknowledged that IF combat was to take place, that the conflict must be relegated to the combatants only. It made leveled, thoughtful criticisms of US policy towards the entire region, acknowledging that the US has done good work in giving material aid-- which is necessary and helpful, but unfortunately has abandoned politics-- and the solution is ultimately a political one.
Seriously, listen to this. Video cut at relevant time.
It condemned the killing of innocents and non-combatants.
Pretty rich coming from Putin.
Yeah, homeboy really doesn't have any kind of moral high ground to stand on there.
Still, a bloody warmonger being such an audacious hypocrite doesn't necessarily negate the actual argument itself, and it would be nice if the world's leaders expressed a similar level of thoughtfulness and perspective rather than the tard-raging everyone does when Israel and the Palestinians start going at it.
And the US has zero standing on this issue either, if we simply use the calculus of "you killed civilians in a legally questionable war". So let's be adults about this, realize that global politics is a mess, and you work with what you have.
a bloody warmonger being such an audacious hypocrite doesn’t necessarily negate the actual argument itself
No doubt. I didn't suggest that he was wrong, just that he's a hypocrite.
JFree, when you offer land for peace and they STILL attack you --- I see no reason to even entertain two state solution without MASSIVE changes by the Jordanians----oops, "Palestinians"
As has been noted, Egypt could offer shelter to them but are very much not doing so.
Who offered which exact land (meaning where’s a map) for peace to whom? Be specific. Those words (but not map or any agreement re what peace means) are in the UN resolutions which are obviously NOT what Israel accepts. But words are also useless on their own.
Those would be there with the Egypt -Israel peace treaty. That’s it.
And the fact that you are calling Palestinians Jordanian indicates that you know you're full of shit. Jordan and Israel have a peace treaty. And it was Jordan that gave up its claim to West Bank land. Not Israel
Modern-day "Palestinians" are just Jordanians. Simple reality.
As far as land for peace --- Oslo Accords. Israel turned over land and PLO still attacked them.
So fuck 'em. They cannot be trusted.
Wolfe, France has no civil liberties. They have civil privileges. The French Revolution wasn't about freedom, it was about switching who had power.
Exactly. Our system of law says you can do whatever isn't prohibited, while theirs says you can only do what is allowed.
Well, that's what we used to aspire to.
The Progressives and their regulatory state has somewhat turned it from "It's a free country, do what you want" to "Who said you could do that?"
We're not totally there yet, but I'm afraid it's just a matter of time.
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That means that libertarians now have more in common with the left than with the right. Not because libertarians have drifted left. Rather its because the conservative right has abandoned support for liberty in general.
I've got an idea.
Why don't you go through your long list of posts of mine that you've got tucked away like a complete loser who has no life outside of these comments, pick one where the context is a discussion about conservatives walking way from the tenuous alliance between libertarians and the political right based upon economic liberty, and apply it to something that has absolutely nothing to do with that context?
JesseAz is a full-time liar. That is his MO. He has no reasoning capability. Lies are his currency.
Wait - you already said as much.
The two biggest liars and most hated trolls on the site have declared Jesse to be the problem.
Amusing.
ML’s mating call is “Tu quoque! Tu quoque!”
It makes his fellow trolls swoon and get wet.
Apparently Sarckles' is "Please pay attention to me".
Also, you deliberately getting "tu quoque" wrong to fuck with everyone, right? Nobody can be that ignorant accidently.
Tu quoque (/tjuːˈkwoʊkwi, tuːˈkwoʊkweɪ/; Latin Tū quoque, for "you also") is a discussion technique that intends to discredit the opponent's argument by attacking the opponent's own personal behavior and actions as being inconsistent with their argument, therefore accusing hypocrisy.
I don't have to go far for an example.
"The two biggest liars and most hated trolls on the site have declared Jesse to be the problem."
Thing is, I think you actually believe it.
If someone accuses someone you like of stealing, you call them a thief.
If someone accuses someone you like of being a liar, you call them a liar.
If someone accuses someone you like of gaslighting, you call them a gaslighter.
So when you say "Nya nya you're a hypocrite! That means you're wrong!" I think you really believe it.
That’s not what a tu quoque is.
Shrike didn’t make an argument. He made an accusation. It is literally in your definition.
Key words dumbass: opponent’s argument
Your quote definition doesn't match up with your usage above. Now let's see if you can figure out why.
The argument is that you're a lying sack of shit with little capacity for reason.
The tu quoque retort is invariably "You're a liar and you're stupid! That means you're wrong! Hypocrite! Nanny nanny boo boo! I win!"
“The tu quoque retort is invariably “You’re a liar and you’re stupid!”
THAT’S NOT TU QUOQUE YOU FANTASTIC FUCKING RETARD. Tu quoque isn’t just about calling names or telling you to fuck off. Look at your own bloody definition!
discredit the opponent’s argument by attacking the opponent’s own personal behavior and actions as being inconsistent with their argument, therefore accusing hypocrisy.
Those words don't mean what you think they mean.
The argument is that you’re a lying sack of shit with little capacity for reason.
Completely bald assertion.
As usual. You and shrike are best buds now. The new Corky and... damn can't think of another retard from a sit com.
Funny how you never actually back up your assertions.
Don't be jealous ML =)
Can't help it. Sarckles was supposed to hate me most. I was supposed to be #1 on his mute list.
He's got a few of us on his unpublished list. Watch for the "juggalo" comments to come out of his keyboard now.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.
What lies? I literally posted his statement word for word.
Glad you and sarc are such buddies now though. Makes both of you look bad. Lol.
I wouldn't have bookmarks at all if you didnt constantly lie about your prior assertions.
They would be more effective if you had the intelligence to use them in a similar context.
Dude, it's a record of what's said so you can't claim "Tulpa" took over your account again.
I provide links all the time. Often times even when I do you make up rationalizations of what you really meant even when context is provided.
You're a chronic liar about your own statements lol.
This statement above was immediately called out as the left supported: Covid restrictions, mandates, censorship, legal arrests of political opponents, etc. And you defended your assertion even after being told that. There was no rationalization for your words at all except you defending the left from an ignorant and partisan basis.
Your comment literally said libertarians have more in common with the left than the right. Never mind that that's a complete misunderstanding of the history of libertarianism, it also counters your comment that you just posted.
Wait, it was that obvious how I was using it to show the hypocrisy of his assertion? Who knew! Oh, anyone with intelligence above sarc levels.
>>Two major refugee camps and all of Gaza City are included in the zone that the IDF plans to attack
if everyone leaves post-warning who is being attacked?
Hamas gave no warnings before targeting and attacking civilians. Israel gives warnings to evacuate to avoid civilian casualties as much as possible, before attacking military targets housed within civilian neighborhoods. JFree 'those evil Israelis, always killing Palestinians'.
Perhaps them building their military infrastructure INSIDE of civilian buildings has some consequences?
kitchen rockets are a military necessity.
Just got here but have to say once again how impressed I am with the Roundup now that Liz has taken over. Now off to the comments.
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>>The post-COVID pivot-to-Zoom when under threats of violence or contagion feels soul-corroding.
idk if pivot-to-Zoom quite captures if you come to church you will be arrested
“We cannot evacuate hospitals and leave the wounded and sick to die” … but we can tolerate the terrorists who butchered old women and children and raped Israelis, causing this particular disaster …
“In Gaza, people are desperate” … but not desperate enough to prevent Hamas from attacking Israel for the umpteenth time and deepening their desperation repeatedly! Why take control of your own future by ending the blood feud when you can sit in squalor and blame Israel for all your problems?
...or have them NOT build military installations INSIDE hospitals?
>>Yesterday, the Bureau of Labor Statistics released new inflation data
tell me you & Eric also didn't believe the new data.
>>An IDF spokesman says residents will be permitted to return once the war is over, but it's not clear what will be left if the Israeli military successfully carries out its plans.
did the IDF guy say the second part? seems like he would have said "after" not "if"
What's not clear is why the IDF will allow the people who chose terrorists to run their government and repeatedly tolerated bloody attacks on Israel over decades, deepening their own desperate circumstances, to return.
seems more the Christian thing to do.
>> cracking down on speech in this manner is a flagrant civil liberties violation.
now do Flowers By Irene.
Oddly, an actual florist by that name seems to exist in Dodge City, Kansas.
As an aside, Reason seems to eat Google Maps links.
name precedes Simpsons too. lol.
https://twitter.com/DisgracedProp/status/1712698610641748396?t=1mXj6O6FTd1w3pUGUFj8Mg&s=19
insane to see this show of force against Palestine supporter but not against BLM. It’s literally the same people protesting the same exact thing, yet the police response is 1000x more serious.
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It is certainly not "the same exact thing", and I doubt it's "the same people".
LOL
With BLM there is only a chance of shit getting set on fire/exploded, and the people they kill, statistically, tend to be more black people.
The anti-Israel bias is so deeply ingrained, you do it reflexively.
It's not even "in retribution!" Every once in a while the exterminators have to eliminate the rat infestation to improve the environment for a while. Do pest control experts eliminate rat infestations in retribution for rat behavior? The planned IDF operation is simply for the purpose of eliminating the Hamas infestation of Gaza, nothing more. I have no doubt that many of the exterminators will be very, very angry at Hamas while performing the extermination, so I suppose you could call that retribution of a sort.
From "never again" to "it's ok when we do it" in less than a century
So you think exterminating innocent civilians in Europe is exactly the same thing as destroying terrorists during a war with the terrorists that the terrorists launched? Wow ... just wow ...
You're both awful. Get a room.
This crap has been around campuses for much longer than that. "White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack" came out in the 1980's, and that wasn't even the start of it. What was happening in the 1960's and 1970's wasn't really all that different either.
Who can measure the precise moment that the counterculture becomes the culture? Or when blue turns to violet on the spectrum?
But when the 1960s counterculture became the only acceptable thought on campus -- that was the turning point.
Well, that won't be a concern for you then.
Or, even better, the in-person worshippers should post armed guards around the perimeter of the synagogues and gun down anyone who attacks them?
In New York that is a one way ticket to jail.
Especially if you're an elderly bodega owning immigrant, than they'll try and throw the book at you.
Well, I suspect that they knew that when they decided to live in New York?
when people reveal themselves to be Hamas apologists
Uh, when you’re putting up paraglider poster art, you aren’t an apologist, you’re a defender or advocate.
Unless, of course, you’re of the mentality that something like this is Christian Apologist artwork.
For a second I thought you had linked to that picture of Jesus which looked exactly like Kenny Loggins
Stanford teacher suspended for allegedly separating out Jewish students in class as ‘colonizers’
https://nypost.com/2023/10/13/stanford-teacher-suspended-for-singling-out-jewish-students/
"making Jewish students stand in a corner while branding them “colonizers” — while also downplaying the Holocaust and defending murderous Hamas terrorists as “freedom fighters.”"
Would you look at that. Another good marxist prof who likely would go around calling everyone he doesn't agree with a fascist nazi, separating out and shaming the jews. The Iron Law of Woke Projection always at work.
>>making Jewish students stand in a corner
in college? that's double-barrel middle finger let's all goto the Nuthouse for beers
Judea is the homeland of Jews. It's a pretty good trick to label them colonizers. It's almost like these idiots just pick a random label and brand anyone they dislike by that term. It's almost like the same psychology behind calling Germans Huns in 1918 and Krauts in 1944, but I'm sure they don't mean to dehumanize their opponents...
We saw exactly what they mean by "decolonization". Labeling people "colonizers" is preparation for decolonizing them.
Conductor, I think I’ve seen this movie before, can I get off the train now?
Or is mentioning trains to on point?
"...It’s almost like these idiots just pick a random label and brand anyone they dislike by that term..."
Apartheid
It's more like they pick a random date from history when one of the many invaders happened to control the region and call any new invaders after that "colonizers." Of course the date they pick isn't actually random. Islam didn't even have a book mentioning the region until around 660 AD, but never mind ...
To be clear, I fully support Israel's right to exist. In fact, I think they should expel the Palestinians from "their homeland" in Gaza and the West Bank.
That's because the concept of a "homeland" more than a millennium ago makes no sense. Likewise the concept of "colonization" for those migrations is also idiotic.
Most of Europe had different "homelands". Most of Europe was forced to pick up and move for various reasons, again and again:
Franks: The Franks were a group of Germanic tribes who lived in the region that is now modern-day France and Germany during the Migration Period. They gradually migrated westward and established a kingdom in what is now France.
Vandals: The Vandals were a Germanic tribe who lived in what is now modern-day Poland during the Migration Period. They migrated southward and eventually settled in North Africa, where they established a kingdom.
Ostrogoths: The Ostrogoths were a Germanic tribe who lived in what is now modern-day Ukraine during the Migration Period. They migrated westward and eventually established a kingdom in Italy.
Visigoths: The Visigoths were a Germanic tribe who lived in what is now modern-day Romania during the Migration Period. They migrated westward and eventually established a kingdom in Spain.
Burgundians: The Burgundians were a Germanic tribe who lived in what is now modern-day Poland during the Migration Period. They migrated westward and eventually established a kingdom in what is now Switzerland.
Magyars: The Magyars were a nomadic people who lived in the steppes of Eurasia. The location of their Urheimat (original homeland) is subject to scholarly debates, but according to one theory, they initially lived east of the Urals and migrated west to "Magna Hungaria" by 600 AD at the latest
Angles: The Angles were a Germanic tribe who lived in what is now modern-day Denmark during the Migration Period. They migrated to various parts of Europe, including Britain, where they established several kingdoms, including Northumbria, Mercia, and East Anglia.
Saxons: The Saxons were a Germanic tribe who lived in what is now modern-day Germany during the Migration Period. They migrated to various parts of Europe, including Britain, where they established several kingdoms, including Wessex, Sussex, and Essex.
Scots: The Scots were a Celtic people who lived in what is now modern-day Ireland during the early Middle Ages. They migrated to Scotland and established the Kingdom of Alba, which covered much of the same territory as modern-day Scotland.
The saddest thing, to me, is that he did this in two classes and not one of the (approximately) 60-100 students there objected or resisted.
Progressive indoctrination in k-12 has thoroughly broken the next generation.
"Our focus as university leaders is to support the members of our Stanford community in this difficult time."
Is it REALLY the function of university administrators to feel the pain of their students? One of the things I find most frustrating about the social currents lately is the meaningless virtue-signaling of "support" for people they don't know who are trying to survive disasters thousands of miles away in places they've never even been to.
I'm really hoping one of the students got suspended for kicking the shit out of him, as well.
Boy, I saw the headline of this post and thought, "Ok, we're up to 2012 news now..."
Don't ever say the wheels of Reason Libertarianism don't turn. They just turn very, very slowly. Whoever brought in Liz Wolfe needs to be bought a beer or something.
looked (to the uninitiated) like a benign effort
And that "to the uninitiated" parenthetical is the punchbowl spike this site has been needing for a very long time.
A couple of years ago I read Sir Martin Gilbert's book, "In Ishmael's House: a History of the Jews in Muslim Lands". Iit's largely about the Jews in Arab lands, which is important here.
It puts the lie to the oft-repeated claim that, historically, our treatment under Arab Muslim rule was, while not great, nonetheless better than under European Christian rule. It also provides an eye-opening account of how brutally and vilely the Jews in Arab lands were treated post-1948, with mass hangings, torture and other oppressive acts - which, ironically, validated the purpose of Israel's existence against which these were reactions.
Indeed, while it is unreasonable to expect the modern Palestinians to pay the price for centuries of abuse of Jews, it is entirely reasonable to expect the Arab Muslim world to recognise that a debt exists. I concluded, after reading the book, that if the Holocaust had never happened or if Herzl had not been affected by the Dreyfus trial, our treatment at the hands of the Arab Muslim world for centuries fully justified the establishment of the state of Israel as now.
Although I agree that it is unreasonable to expect modern Palestinians to pay the price of centuries of abuse of Jews, that’s NOT what is happening here! While it might be convenient for your narrative to ignore the actual events of history, the Jews had been trying to escape from Christian AND Muslim atrocities for over a century by returning to Judea. Some of them never left the region during the diaspora. For decades Jews had been buying up useless land from occupants who couldn’t make it prosperous. On the same day that the Jewish State was declared, the Jews were attacked violently from inside and outside. Ever since that day Jews have been fighting for their state and, frequently, their lives against entities that have vowed to destroy them. Every step of the way the moderates have tried repeatedly to secure their Jewish State with peace treaties against people who fled from Israel for no particularly good reason. Every attack by Islam on Israel has strengthened the position of the hard-liners who have been proved to be correct over and over again that negotiating with terrorists simply gets Israelis killed. Try selling your fables to people who have no brains; it won’t work here where people can think and read history.
It's not even a question of "debt". People of different religions don't live well together. The best you can hope for is for a bunch of protestants to grudgingly not kill each other, or for a small religious minority to be tolerated as long as they do dirty work the majority doesn't want to do.
The non-Jewish people in Israel, Gaza, and the West Bank need to move elsewhere; it sucks, but that's the only way this conflict will get solved.
Israel was founded by deluded socialists, who thought they could ignore this reality and just get along and demonstrate their moral superiority. "Palestine/Israel" was sparsely populated, and in the early years, moving non-Jewish residents to Jordan would have been fairly easy and painless. The huge non-Jewish population in Gaza and the West Bank is the result of migration and population growth.
A couple of years ago I read Sir Martin Gilbert’s book, “In Ishmael’s House: a History of the Jews in Muslim Lands”. It’s largely about the Jews in Arab lands.
It puts the lie to the oft-repeated claim that, historically, our treatment under Arab Muslim rule was, while not great, nonetheless better than under European Christian rule. It also provides an eye-opening account of how brutally and vilely the Jews in Arab lands were treated post-1948, with mass hangings, torture and other oppressive acts – which, ironically, validated the purpose of Israel’s existence against which these were reactions. Indeed, while it is unreasonable to expect the modern Palestinians to pay the price for centuries of abuse of Jews, it is entirely reasonable to expect the Arab Muslim world to recognise that a debt exists.
I concluded, after reading the book, that if the Holocaust had never happened or if Herzl had not been affected by the Dreyfus trial, our treatment at the hands of the Arab Muslim world for centuries fully justified the establishment of the state of Israel as now.
Arab Muslims have been engaged in oppression of Jews (and to a lesser extent, Christians) for centuries and they simply could not - and indeed, to this day in so many instances still cannot - accept that Jews should be treated equally or at least should not be held down as we had been.
Ask the Coptic Christians of Egypt (one of the oldest Christian Sects, predating Mohammed by centuries) how well they are treated in Egypt. Christianity has not always been benign, but largely since the end of the Protestant Reformation and the subsequent so called wars of religion (which weren't actually about religion, especially the 30 Years War) Christianity (especially mainstream protestantism) has not been militant. Islam on the other hand hasn't known a period in it's history that hasn't condoned militancy. And no, Nazism was not a Christian movement no matter how much antithesis and the left try to mislabel it as a Christian movement. A good number of Christian ministers and laypeople ended up in the concentration camps too.
Islam on the other hand hasn’t known a period in it’s history that hasn’t condoned militancy.
That's part of the beauty of Islam, as religions go. Christian thinkers have always had to do intellectual loops to justify aggression, whereas the Quran is all cool with violence against unbelievers, so no cognitive dissonance necessary.
Yeah, it takes some doing to reinterpret 'turn the other cheek' 'remove the plank from the own eye' 'let those among you who have not sinned be the first to cast stones' etc into 'God commands you to go and kill those people and you'll end up in Heaven' its been done but it took some work. The irony is that during the recruiting period of the first crusade (and subsequent ones) one of the targets for the enraged people were European Jews. And it was often church leaders who came to their rescue. Mainly because Christianity has never been anything but fractious. Hell at one point in the fifteenth century, there were three different Popes at the same time, no one could agree on which one was the real pope. Which delayed a planned crusade by Henry the V, so he invaded France (and helped create Shakespeare's best work as a result).
The Saint Crispin Day speech wouldn't be quite so good though if Shakespeare had written 'well guys, we can't go kill Muslims or Pagans, so let's kill the French'.
Did they have a Pope-Off?
Pope Thunderdome? 😀
I'd pay to see that.
No, but they did somehow turn the convention of cardinals into a show trial for Hus and burned him as a heretic, despite the Emperor guaranteeing his safety.
Hell at one point in the fifteenth century, there were three different Popes at the same time
One of my favorite incidents in religious history. Two popes for a couple of generations before someone went "I know - if we nominate another guy, everyone will just fall in line behind him and we'll be united again! Right? . . . Right??"
Yeah, moving the Papacy to Avignon kind of fucked up the whole reasoning behind why the Bishop of Rome was preeminent in the church. That and it pissed of the Holy Roman Empire. 'The Pope shouldn't be beholden to the French King, that's our job'. Which is pretty literal as one of the whole reasons the Bishop of Rome was able to declare successfully preeminence was largely because of the Support of Charlemagne.
one of the whole reasons the Bishop of Rome was able to declare successfully preeminence was largely because of the Support of Charlemagne.
A two-way street - Charlemagne got to be Holy Roman Emperor instead of just the latest barbarian warlord.
In fairness, I get why they moved to Avignon - by that time Rome was such a shithole they were doing so in no small part for their own personal safety. Who knew the Emperor would take it personally?
I don’t know, Charlemagne claimed he didn’t know the Pope was going to name him emperor and wouldn’t have gone to the service if he had known. If you can’t trust the word of the grandson of the man who promised to support and defend the king of the Franks only to overthrow him, who can you believe? On the other hand, his grandpa did know how to deal with militant Muslims.
On a somewhat tangent: why is the Viking Age considered separate from the migration period by many Medieval Historians? I mean it's just another Germanic tribe migrating west and conquering and taking land in what was once the Roman Empire. Granted they tended to strike predominantly other Germanic tribes, the Franks and the Anglo-Saxons but really separating the two ages doesn't make a lot of sense.
Probably someone's dissertation depended on that. Much of the academy exists to provide occupations for academicians.
Doesn't seem to have worked out too well for them.
I heard somewhere that the Israeli government said that they were going to turn Gaza into "a city of tents". I reflected on that and then thought, "They might want to consult with the city governments of Seattle, L.A. and San Francisco... they achieved that without firing a shot."
Chicago now too.
https://twitter.com/ChicagoContrar1/status/1712636997209133291
Tents cropping up at Pulaski and Leland, across from CPD's 17th District. Illegals taking over a residential area in Albany Park on both sides of the streets.
Oh no, not Chicago. That was the one thing I liked about traveling to Chicago back to the home office. My chances of being carjacked increased exponentially, but I was relieved of the eyesore of tent cities. Now Chicago has both? Ugh.
It's spreading to the NW side. There used to be a few smaller tent cities for a long time: Dan Ryan Expressway at Roosevelt Road, across from UIC; and under the Ryan at Canalport Avenue.
One of the prominent features of insanity is that it makes perfect sense to the schizophrenic. To outsiders it seems puzzling that a million people, having fled from the promise of democracy because of their status as slaves of Allah to one of the most beautiful beach resorts on the Mediterranean - if not the world - and instead of turning it into a peaceful, prosperous destination for the wealthy on holiday, they preferred to squat in squalor in refugee camps and fire off missiles periodically at the Israelis. I cannot explain this any other way than as a form of religious hallucination.
Hilarious that Democrats are suing because the map is getting other Democrats elected. Illinois is a joke.
That was in response to ITL above. No idea how it got here.
Regardless, Illinois is the joke of the US. It's the one state that sometimes manages to make California look good.
Everyone is out retarding everyone else.
Philly crime now putting Chicago to shame.
Illinois politics now putting CA to shame.
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If the person on the loose is both black and senile, will the combination of ebony and silver alerts result in a charcoal alert?
The alert should be announced in such case either by Morgan Freeman or James Earl Jones.
Look at the bright side. This is a wonderful opportunity to sweep Ukraine under the rug while nobody's looking.
Name me one foreign policy decision Biden's undertaken that hasn't turned into shit. I'm so glad the adults are back in charge.
Also, Trump's tenure is looking better and better. Economy + foreign policy, im really starting to miss the trump presidency.
It's not an either-or thing. Just because Biden's tenure is looking worse and worse doesn't mean that Trump's administration is looking better. Trump's administration wasn't as great a disaster as Biden's because every recent administration was worse than the one before it. It's a trend.
It’s going to take a lot of free shit to keep Biden in the White House, especially when the connections between how we left Afghanistan and what just happened to Israel are out in the open.
There’s still a whole year for damning shit to come out about this senile criminal and his party. The only way he wins next year is with massive fortifications.
Not that he’ll likely be the nominee…
The 2024 vote won't have been rigged. Biden will just have been really good at playing the domestic and international catastrophes, that were pointed out as being his fault by active participants and impartial third parties every step of the way, off of each other.
> Hamas has “dismissed [Israel’s warning] as a ploy and called on people to stay in their homes,” per the Associated Press.
They need human shields.
> “We cannot evacuate hospitals and leave the wounded and sick to die,” Gazan Health Ministry spokesperson Ashraf al-Qidra told the A.P.
Better figure it out. (Also, your hospitals are blacked out anyway. You should have moved them the minute Palestine started attacking.)
> The United Nations agency that’s ministering to refugees in the north says that it will not evacuate the schools where displaced Palestinians are staying.
Fine. You were warned.
Imagine what would happen if tens of thousands of explosive missiles rained down from Tijuana onto San Diego, as a thousand gunmen crept through the border and murdered hundreds of people at a music festival, butchered kindergartens, shot people in their homes, etc. On Christmas.
They US wouldn't be dropping leaflets or issuing warnings. B52s would carpet bomb and destroy every building and vehicle and road in a 20km strip from the Pacific to a bit past Tecate, and declare it a buffer zone in which anyone seen would be immediately shot. Tijuana would be nothing but rubble.
Israel could easily do the same. Instead they will, in the end, put their own soldiers at risk to try to avoid harming the human shields that Hamas is keeping above and around their weapons depots and tunnels and missiles. While the UN whines about restraint and refuses to help evacuate civilians.
B52s would carpet bomb and destroy every building and vehicle and road in a 20km strip
Not a chance. Biden would be calling for a cease fire and negotiations, while thousands of college students demonstrated in support of the oppressed Mexicans.
An aside re: Bari Weiss: Bari Weiss is also the winner of the Reason Foundation "Bastiat Prize." in 2019 (scare quotes intended). Are you kidding me?
I think your paradigm is a bit outdated.
It's not about dominance in the mideast, it's about replacing the traditional domestic population with a more obedient foreign serf class.
Death is the consummation of their faith and all faith.
FTFY
I wonder if Ryan Carson is one of the “betters” the rev keeps yapping about, or maybe the guy who killed him?
Neither one is in any position to dictate permissions to anyone. Haha.
Except its not, and this isn't a "well its all bad".
A hamas leader put out a statement to Israel explicitly saying we are martyrs, we love death like your people love life. They understand, very well, that they are at a significant advantage because of their different mission statements. One side is very OK and proud to die, and to put children in harms way on purpose, and they have made it very clear that is a tactical advantage for them, because they understand their faith is different than Israels.
There may not be a black and white good guy vs bad guy here, but one of them is absolutely worse than the other. Unless your brain is mush from too many years of fence sitting equivocation.
They will never be a threat to the rulers. That's the definition of obedience. The chaos they cause is also obedient in as much as it hurts the plebs.
"There may not be a black and white good guy vs bad guy here, but one of them is absolutely worse than the other."
Thank you for succinctly articulating my thoughts over the last few days. As someone who is familiar with the conflict and the history, there is a certain about of 'both sides' - but that only accounts for maybe 25% of the current conflict. The 75% is that one side is uncompromisingly genocidal and it's leaders are more than willing to sacrifice it's foot soldiers and the people they claim to be helping in the name of 'the cause'.
The whole 'look at these poor suffering innocent Gazan civilians' narrative that almost immediately took over is so revealing of true sentiment and rank hypocrisy among the 'intelligentsia'. At best, they are equal victims of Hamas not a discrete group with any actual power anymore than the average North Korean is autonomous from their government.
Rest assured, I am not making a moral equivalence between Jihadis and their victims. I am making a statement on the nature of faith.
If faith is believing in something regardless of or even contrary to evidence, and if man is a rational animal who requires evidence from the use of reason and the senses to survive, then, yes, all faith is deadly.
This is true whether it is the jihadi's faith in getting 72-virgin-pie-in-the-sky-in-the-sweet-by-and-by or a Christian's or Jew's faith that God will protect you from the jihadi.
At best, they are equal victims of Hamas not a discrete group with any actual power anymore than the average North Korean is autonomous from their government.
^
" that almost immediately took over"
It took over before the bodies were even cold. It was a knee-jerk reaction
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