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Israel

Israel Hit From All Sides

Plus: Spooky NYU statements, no ambassador to Israel, FTX trial developments, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 10.11.2023 9:30 AM

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Rising death toll: Overnight, the number of deaths in Israel and Gaza rose to roughly 2,200, following Hamas' surprise attack on southern Israel this past weekend that resulted in the massacre of civilians. In addition, more than 150 foreign nationals who had been traveling or living in Israel are dead or missing.

This includes at least 40 Americans (20 dead, more than 20 missing), 29 Thais (18 dead, 11 missing), 17 missing or dead Brits, 10 missing or dead Nepalese, 22 missing or dead Argentines, 17 missing or dead French, two missing or dead Ukrainians, three missing or dead Austrians, and four missing or dead Canadians. Several Germans, French, Argentines, and Americans have been taken hostage but exact numbers are hard to come by.

In the weeds: More information has come out about how Hamas carried out this past weekend's attack, which caught Israeli forces off guard. On Saturday, Hamas "appeared to destroy communications towers close to the Gaza border key to Israel's defense," reports The New York Times.

Israel is now being hit from all sides. While this has all been happening on the southern front, the northern front also erupted: yesterday, missiles were launched from Syria and Lebanon. Hamas and Hezbollah have taken responsibility. Missiles were intercepted by the Iron Dome, Israel's air defense system.

Israel has responded by bombing Hezbollah, and is continuing to bomb the Gaza Strip. Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant says a ground offensive will be launched in Gaza, and authorities there say a "humanitarian crisis" is imminent, as the power plant reportedly ran out of fuel around 2 p.m. local time, several hours ago. Doctors Without Borders has said that Al-Shifa, the main hospital in Gaza, only has about three days' worth of fuel, and that antibiotics, surgical equipment, and other supplies are close to being exhausted.

At least 250,000 Gazans have been displaced. Israeli forces have started warning whole neighborhoods—not just individual buildings—when an attack is coming, and entire sections of Gaza City have been razed.

American chaos: Not only do we currently have no speaker of the House, but we also do not have an ambassador to Israel. President Joe Biden's nominee, Jack Lew, must be hastily pushed through the Senate confirmation process, which will most likely happen next week.

Lew, who served under President Bill Clinton as the director of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), developed "the memorandum of understanding at OMB on multiyear funding for Israel and worked to sustain it during the Obama administration." And, per an unnamed White House official, he also "worked to provide 'crucial funding' for Israeli missile defense systems to protect citizens from attacks," per NBC News. "The American ambassador to NATO said on Tuesday that U.S. military assistance to Israel after the weekend attacks by Hamas assailants would not come at Ukraine's expense," reports The New York Times. (Instead, it will come at the expense of U.S. taxpayers.)

American insanity: Black Lives Matter's Chicago affiliate used Hamas paragliders—the ones who slaughtered 260-plus teens and young adults at a music festival—in their poster art expressing that they "stand with Palestine." Black Lives Matter's Los Angeles chapter proclaims that "when a people have been subject to decades of apartheid and unimaginable violence, their resistance must not be condemned, but understood as a desperate act of self-defense." 

These groups are grafting their understanding of domestic race relations and colonizer/colonized narratives onto Israel and Palestine, which simply does not work. Celebrating the murderous paragliders of Hamas—a terrorist group that keeps Gazans entrenched in deep poverty, by the way—isn't the same as communicating opposition to the state of Israel. There are no easy answers here, but it is actually quite easy to avoid using barbaric killers as your graphic design motif.

"When a political group is dogmatic to the extreme, there is no limit to the horrors they will condone and justify for their cause—no ability to depart from those they consider on their team, no matter what it is their teammates are doing: kidnapping children, killing kids in front of their parents, massacring hundreds at a concert, whatever," writes Tim Urban on Twitter. 


Scenes from New York: 

The folksy "hi y'all" and the candy corn and the "spooky" lettering, it's really all too insane, you'd think it was a parody:

https://twitter.com/Yair_Rosenberg/status/1711790931299426802

The person seemingly responsible for sending out this statement ended up getting their big law job offer from Winston & Strawn LLP revoked. I tend to oppose cancel culture wherever it strikes (but support the rights of private employers to decide who they want to hire and fire), so my rough take is that law firms should probably vet people more aggressively during the hiring process if they're sensitive to campus-activist drivel. But there's also a question of whether a junior hire's thoughts on Hamas have any bearing on their ability to do their job well; we ostensibly work with plenty of people who believe wrong or immoral things but have the good sense to keep them quiet in a professional environment.

Nor was this person a public figure whose words would have any sort of lasting impact or great influence—instead, these public statements from college students, DSA groups, and BLM come together to form a tour d'horizon of where the far left is going, and how simplistic American race relations narratives fall embarrassingly short. (A related cancel culture take—this one on the porn star Mia Khalifa—here, from Reason's Robby Soave.)


QUICK HITS

  • "The founder of the anti-trafficking group OUR has been sued by several accusers, who say he used their faith and visions from a psychic to sexually coerce them," reports Vice's Anna Merlan.
  • Wearing a scarlet letter—as Rep. Nancy Mace (R–S.C.) did, in reference to criticism she received for her vote to oust the speaker of the House—doesn't really make sense.
  • Did Rep. George Santos (R–N.Y.) commit credit card fraud?
  • Twitter has been full of profoundly insane takes from Extremely Online leftists. Oliver Traldi's tweet nicely sums it up:

not much surprises me but i've been taken aback by the almost literal bullet-biting of "if a Native American wanted to murder me i would just have to say 'well played' and die" people have been doing on here

— Oliver Traldi (@olivertraldi) October 9, 2023

  • More than 4,000 autoworkers at three General Motors plants in Canada went on strike yesterday, citing issues with pay and benefits in contract negotiations. More than 9,000 GM workers are currently on strike in the U.S. over similar negotiation disputes.
  • "Within the first 15 minutes of her testimony, Ms. Ellison repeatedly blamed Mr. Bankman-Fried, 31, for crimes that led to FTX's implosion," reports The New York Times.
  • Incredible account of a 62-year-old grandfather who fought off Hamas, rescuing a bunch of people—including his own family, who was in hiding.
  • In Ohio, pro-lifers and pro-choicers are anxiously watching the fate of an abortion referendum, which could be a "bellwether for 2024," says Politico. (For more on Ohio's referendum, see Elizabeth Nolan Brown's coverage here. For more on abortion and libertarianism, go here.)
  • A sailor in the U.S. Navy was "arrested on national security charges pleaded guilty Tuesday to conspiring with a Chinese intelligence officer and receiving a bribe," Axios reports.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Israel Hit From All Sides

    Particularly from the left.

    1. Nardz   2 years ago

      https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1711919156407230851?t=mKmAvo3ifAZF8YB4CctS1Q&s=19

      The ADL… truly beyond parody

      [Link]

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        When the fuck did BLM become white supremacists?

        1. Rob Misek   2 years ago

          “ exact numbers are hard to come by.”

          How about how many of the 2200 dead are Palestinian women children and dual citizens?

          Challenge your bigotry and watch the three minute segment of the video I’ve presented below. After all, it is a prominent Jew speaking particularly about civilian slaughter at the hands of Jews.

          I would prefer to hear from both sides before making a decision.

          Which mainstream media outlet is interviewing the Palestinians in Israel, particularly the West Bank who have experienced 75 years of Jewish terrorism, apartheid and oppression while their homes and communities are bulldozed and new Jewish ones are built in their place?

          Let’s hear from the Palestinians to recount what Jews have done since they promised to bring the US into WW1 in exchange for the British promise of Palestine via the Balfour Declaration.

          Hell, since that won’t happen in our environment of propaganda and censorship, listen to an uncommon Jew tell the truth.

          Miko Peled is an Israeli, an author, a public speaker and the son of a famous Israeli general.

          He is also opposed to Israeli apartheid of Palestinians.

          In the following video he puts into perspective what you won’t see in our western propaganda.

          Between 40:40 and 43:45 in the video he describes Israeli terrorism.

          http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TOaxAckFCuQ

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            Misek, another ass-clown of the commentariat, lies. It’s all he ever does. Misek is a Nazi, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to understand that what he posts is no more than bigoted lies.
            If he posts anything that isn’t a bigoted antisemitic lie, it’s totally accidental.
            Misek lies; it’s what he does. Misek is a lying Nazi, Holocaust-denying, antisemitic piece of shit.

            1. Mother's Lament (proud Kol Nidre for Misek)   2 years ago

              Imagine how much shit Misek would be in if he got his wish and lying became illegal. One hundred years for sure.

              1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                I prefer he receive the death penalty.

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                2. charliehall   2 years ago

                  I have long thought that the more dead Nazis, the better.

                  Hamas isn't much different from the Nazis.

              2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

                I look forward to Misek getting what he's begging for.

          2. Sevo   2 years ago

            Fuck off and die, Nazi scumbag.

          3. B G   2 years ago

            "Miko Peled is an Israeli, an author, a public speaker and the son of a famous Israeli general."

            Why'd you leave out that he apparently calls himself a Pro-Palestine activist? That lie of omission would have you in chains if the world you claim to want were the one we live in.

            RFK Jr is the son of one and Nephew of another Democratic Party hero (and past President of the USA). He's also an author and a public speaker. Does his personal dissent from the current form of the Democrat Party and certain U.S. policies on multiple topics prove all of those things completely invalid?

            The opinions and experiences of one individual aren't absolute disputation of every other interpretation of the available information on any topic no matter how much of a need you feel to believe it. The contents of the video give a strong indication that the man speaking believes what he's saying, but I see no "hard" evidence being presented to support any of the factual assertions mixed in with mostly statements of opinion.

          4. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

            Again, Bullwinkle?

            Or maybe I should say: "Again, Fearless Leader?"

            Then again, I'll stick with my old stand-by:

            Fuck Off, Nazi!

          5. charliehall   2 years ago

            Yes we should hear all sides. We should have given more attention to Goebbels’ statements during WW2.

            Goebbels didn’t come up with the Apartheid lie, but if there is a Hell he is smiling there as the actual Apartheid system was set up by his sympathizers, modeled after the Nuremburg laws. There isn’t much that is more anti-Semitic than falsely accusing Jews of doing what Nazi supporters did. The central feature of Apartheid in South Africa was the stripping of citizenship from all South Africans who weren’t White. Another Goebbels feature is to falsely accuse the other side of what you do. Hamas’s long stated intention is to eradicate the Jewish presence from the region. You seem to be okay with that.

      2. Moonrocks   2 years ago

        BLM is finally acknowledged as the black face of white supremacy.

        1. B G   2 years ago

          The L.A. times is going to be ripshit over that. They'd already lobbed that distinction at Larry Elder.

      3. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

        This, as well as the one posted below "...being a jewish kid in college supporting BLM, Ukraine...etc".

        This is what we have been telling you people, especially you white left leaning libertarians, centrists, fence sitters, and others who side with the left to stay in polite company, to get the corporate kudos, to get invited to all the functions/parties, to be an "ally".

        You are useful idiots, and will be the first against the wall when it comes time.

        "Secular" jews, jews that practice superficially, jews that love the label so they can claim identity political points and victims status, jews that love to claim the label in hollywood, jews that will proudly side with the left so as to not be associated with 'those' white people, the bad nasty icky right wing ones, the "white supremacists" the "nazis" ...you are useful idiots to the progressives. They are telling you, loudly, right now. They are chanting "gas the jews" with their hamas flags in Sydney. In western countries. And they aint lilly white young lads in polo shirts with swastikas. They are multicultural leftists marxists...and you are just white people in their way

        1. DesigNate   2 years ago

          The sad thing is, the modern progressives have ALWAYS been the Nazi’s, but half the damn country bought into their excellent propaganda that Nazi’s are somehow on the right of the political spectrum.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            Because "right-wing" literally means a favored class, race, or group, you idiot.

            Aryan Supremacy is the textbook example.

            1. Pear Satirical   2 years ago

              No it doesn't you asshole. The Nazis were socialists for crying out loud, a left-wing philosophy. Now they wanted a national, German socialism over the international socialism of the communists, but they were still socialists. Hell, read the 25 points of the Nazi's platform; many of them ae indistinguishable from left-wing talking points

              7. "We demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and
              way of life for the citizens. If it is impossible to sustain the total population of the State, then the
              members of foreign nations (non-citizens) are to be expelled from the Reich."

              12. "In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of
              the people personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people.
              Therefore we demand the total confiscation of all war profits."
              13. "We demand the nationalization of all (previous) associated industries (trusts)."
              14. "We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries."
              15. "We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare."
              16. "We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate
              communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost
              consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality."
              17. "We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free
              expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all
              speculation in land."

              1. Mother's Lament (proud Kol Nidre for Misek)   2 years ago

                Pluggo knows. He's been shown the Nazi party platform, their official nationalization strategy, and plenty of Hitler and Goebbels speeches praising socialism and promising more.

                But Plugstick loves to lie and he doesn't want to give up one of his favorite trolls.

              2. charliehall   2 years ago

                Now remind us of what happened to the actual socialists in Germany under Nazi rule. They were the only party in the Reichstag to vote against making Hitler a dictator. They were rounded up into camps even before Jews were.

            2. DesigNate   2 years ago

              Hey look, there’s one of the retards I was talking about.

              Hahahahahahahahaha

        2. B G   2 years ago

          "This is what we have been telling you people, especially you white left leaning libertarians, centrists, fence sitters, and others who side with the left to stay in polite company, to get the corporate kudos, to get invited to all the functions/parties, to be an “ally”.

          You are useful idiots, and will be the first against the wall when it comes time."

          I don't consider myself left-leaning, but most of my friends are; I'm more truly liberal (which often gets me tagged as anything from "right wing" to "fascist" by my some leftists I know).

          I'm not particularly worried about getting told to get against the wall, since the ones telling me to do it would first have to borrow my guns (and learn from me how to load/operate them), and that's assuming they'd even deign to touch one of the things. I've recently been hit with the realization that the wife of my oldest friend (I was Best Man in their wedding 23 years ago) might not be aware that I actually own a gun (I think the count is up to 14 as of a few weeks ago).

          1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

            We had some friends over one day, around the time of a mass shooting, and one guys wife was talking about how disgusted she was by guns and how they would never want to be near someone that owns them.

            Since she kind of sucks and I wouldn't have minded if she specifically left, I did debate on offering up the information that I have enough firepower to arm everyone at the get together, if they needed to be and so desired, but I figured it was still best to keep that info to myself.

            I stuck with, "well, I hope you never need one 😉 "

            1. B G   2 years ago

              I had a friend who knew I have guns ask me after the "mass shooter" in Davis CA who was targeting cops a few years back, "what makes someone do something like that?"

              The only answer I could give is that I'm the worst person to ask that question since my initial reaction to the news of it was to think that I literally already possessed all of the gear and skills that shooter used (and then some), but had never once given any thought to trying anything remotely like it.

        3. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          So you know, Zionism was and is a Secular Jewish cause founded by Secularist Theodor Herzl and carried out mostly by Secular Jews, There is a whole friendly entry on "Zionism" in The Encyclopedia of Unbelief edited by Gordon Stein.

          And I'm a Gentile Howling Atheist who proudly defends Israel against Islamofascist monsters and Christofascist hanger-on-ers and Neo-Nazis and Neo-Commies. Israel is the best thing to ever happen to Secularists of all backgrounds in The Middle East. *Feh!* on all Israel-Haters!

          1. Truthfulness   2 years ago

            Zionism wasn't secular. Plenty of Jews, past and present, have used their faith as a motivation for the creation and sustainment of a national Jewish state. Rabbi Yitzchak Yaacov Reines is an example of one who played a role in the start of the modern Zionist movement. Several Rabbis before him expressed desires for a Jewish state earlier in the 19th century.

            The fact that you cannot see this places you and Gordon Stein more at home with antisemitism than with Zionism.

      4. charliehall   2 years ago (edited)

        Yes we should hear all sides. But sometimes there isn't another side.

    2. Mother's Lament (proud Kol Nidre for Misek)   2 years ago (edited)

      I saw a Hamas video yesterday of them cutting a captured Thai national’s head off with a garden hoe as he lay on the ground. The guy was there on a guest worker visa. He obviously wasn’t Jewish.

      They killed him slowly with glee.

      There were four other Thai workers huddled together but it didn’t show their fate.

      I saw them torture a five-year-old boy, kill a young girl in front of her siblings, kill a friendly dog that had come to greet them, and dance around the body of a dead German girl like evil monkeys.

      These people know exactly what they’re doing and defending when they justify and equivalate Hamas's actions.

      1. Nardz   2 years ago

        https://twitter.com/Imamofpeace/status/1711875241557856373?t=WYtnNOfsiGoF0OAxu9R5FA&s=19

        At 40 seconds of this clip, Hamas Leader Ismail Haniyeh orders his followers around the world to join the violence “Each person in his/her own way.”

        Proudly aired by Al Jazeera TV, that uses Hamas buildings for its offices.

        [Link]

      2. Nardz   2 years ago

        Andy is wrong here- they're not "far left" they're just typical "left"

        https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1711966141281616215?t=N-j2O_VUPfoEHE4g8z-agw&s=19

        At least 18 Thai migrant workers were slaughtered by Hamas militants during the terrorist attacks in southern Israel. One graphic video shows a man repeatedly praising Allah as he tries to behead a semi-conscious Asian man with a garden tool. A further 11 Thai nationals are known to have been taken hostage.

        Far-left ideologues, socialists, Palestinian nationalists, BLM, Antifa and Muslim extremists are among those who defend the killings & kidnappings as "decolonization."

      3. rbike   2 years ago

        Thank you. I am just too squeamish to see other people's pain and suffering. Also blood. The descriptions are hard to believe and there is little honesty in war.

        1. Nardz   2 years ago

          See: the 40 beheaded babies story.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Google has pushed that story way down pushing claims of the story being fake way up.

            1. rbike   2 years ago

              I saw this. I think this is evidence of those pushing for war. I think there may be some truth: at least one child decapitation occurred. 40 infants were estimated missing in the area of attack. But what else is the truth? Got no idea. This is as bad as the truth out of Ukraine.

      4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Misek says these are good people.

    3. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      What did I tell ya, folks? What did I tell ya?

      Sunni Muslims and Shia Muslims are setting aside their ancient quarrel over who will run the conn (or con) after Muhammad died and they're uniting against "The Zionist Entity" and supporting Hamas murderers:

      Israel war: Leaders of Iran and Saudi Arabia hold first-ever phone call, pledging united support for Palestinians
      Story by Brady Knox •3h
      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israel-war-leaders-of-iran-and-saudi-arabia-hold-first-ever-phone-call-pledging-united-support-for-palestinians/ar-AA1i4h82

  2. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Black Lives Matter's Chicago affiliate used Hamas paragliders—the ones who slaughtered 260-plus teens and young adults at a music festival—in their poster art expressing that they "stand with Palestine."

    They meant it when they eschewed the concept that all lives matter.

    1. Nardz   2 years ago

      Also the communist roots going back 6 decades

      https://twitter.com/Rule3O3/status/1711939028793114696?t=dJfOFy2gDZcqln-KzA1hZA&s=19

      Anyone struggling to understand why younger liberals came out for Hamas:

      They’re reasoning by analogy with domestic politics, in three perfectly logical steps.

      1) Black people are always right.

      2) Who are the black people of this conflict?

      3) Clearly, the Palestinians.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Or they are just retarded and brain-washed.

        1. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

          ^This^

    2. Nardz   2 years ago

      Hilarious

      https://twitter.com/DGreenbaum/status/1711945783824540052?t=-Ojz-S6M_YUD4S8fFlw73g&s=19

      Jews marched in Selma. Jews marched for George Floyd. Jews showed up for Black Lives Matter. BLM is a disgrace. We will all still be there for you guys next time. Because that’s who we are. But now we know who you are.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        "And we are idiots."

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago (edited)

        A lot of left-wing Jews have had the scales ripped from their eyes in rather dramatic fashion the last few days. As they indicated, it won’t be long before they glue them right back on as soon as things settle down, again, though.

        1. Nardz   2 years ago

          Correct.

          It's interesting to watch the two foundational myths of modern society clash though.

          It begs another question: is it good that the foundational myths for western society, which they've been for 75+ years now, are the holocaust and slavery?

        2. middlefinger   2 years ago

          The new narrative, from the left wing open borders Jews/Biden administration welfare state progressives is that “it’s just a fringe group” and we “still hate the right even more” than the left.

          It’s just a fringe group.

          Useful fucking idiots

      3. B G   2 years ago

        Does BLM draw a significant following anymore?

        Seems like it's been years since they were exposed as another crypto-marxist "revolution" groups who got out over their skis and jumped the gun on the part of making their own leadership "more equal" than the proletarian grunts who were supposed to try to overthrow the establishment just to install the "revolutionaries" into the same seats of opulence and priveledge that they'd railed against in the incitement phase (two legs bad, four legs good!).

        This graphic seems like it might be in danger of getting far more exposure from people claiming outrage over it than from those endorsing it, with the net result of the "outrage" being little more than the increased awareness of the graphic itself.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          They never had a significant following. The group was astroturfed to hell and mostly served as a money-laundering operation for the DNC. This bit of mask-ripping by the Chicago branch is simply a case of some of the DNC's rabid pets getting off of their leash.

      4. charliehall   2 years ago

        BLM was always a grifting scheme. Its finances were as opaque as the Trump Organization. But grifting White Bigots like Trump get a pass while grifting Black Bigots like the people running BLM get trashed here.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    The elected student president of the NYU Law School Bar Association-

    Stop right there.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

      Americans wont be paraglider instructors, do we need to bring them here to do the jobs Americans won’t do.

      1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

        "Uncle Augusto's Ocean View Helicopter Tours"

  4. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

    "At least 250,000 Gazans have been displaced."

    Charles Koch salivates.

    #CheapLaborAboveAll

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Paging Fiona...

      1. middlefinger   2 years ago

        You joke, but Reason had an open borders piece- right away, as the decapitated babies in Israel were still on the roads

  5. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    The founder of the anti-trafficking group OUR has been sued by several accusers, who say he used their faith and visions from a psychic to sexually coerce them...

    Much to unpack there, but who is trusting Anna Merlan or Vice to do it?

    1. Minadin   2 years ago

      Hopefully not Robby.

    2. B G   2 years ago

      Anyone who's acting on "visions from a psychic" is still exerting a version of agency/consent. Seems like bribing the psychic to tell them a different version of fiction is something of a gray area when it comes to "coercion"

      1. Truthfulness   2 years ago

        Seems like the accused man was innocent.

        1. B G   2 years ago

          I don't know if I'd say innocent exactly, but I don't know any details of the situation and had never heard of if (or the group OUR, for that matter) outside of the post I responded to. Also, none of that touches the distinctions between morally innocent and "not guilty" under a criminal statute.

          I just wonder if anyone who's chosen to make their decisions based on what they're told by someone who's almost certainly misleading them at some level can actually be said to have been coerced if their "advisor" chooses to tell them one particular fabrication which would point them toward a particular course of action.

          At some level, the person claiming to have been coerced made an active decision to surrender some part of their own agency based on an unlikely and unprovable claim, and made an affirmative choice to follow through on what they were told in the particular situation in question. At another level, someone colluding with the "psychic" is causing a third party to be manipulated in a way that's or their own personal benefit (and possibly not in the best interest of the follower).

  6. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Wearing a scarlet letter—as Rep. Nancy Mace (R–S.C.) did, in reference to criticism she received for her vote to oust the speaker of the House—doesn't really make sense.

    A Handmaid's Tale costume would have been gauche.

    1. Anomalous   2 years ago

      A scarlet "A" is inappropriate. Those are DDs at least.

  7. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

    "reports Vice's Anna Merlan"

    This Anna Merlan?

    #HavenMonahanStillAtLarge

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Proof that modern journalism is about the beliefs you hold rather than the facts of the story.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Truth is what you feel.

      2. B G   2 years ago

        I don't know that it was ever really true, but I did enjoy a meme I saw:

        Used to be the News told us what happened and left us to figure out how to feel about it. Now the News tells us how to feel and leaves us to figure out if something actually happened.

  8. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago (edited)

    Black Lives Matter’s Chicago affiliate used Hamas paragliders—the ones who slaughtered 260-plus teens and young adults at a music festival—in their poster art expressing that they “stand with Palestine.”

    Populists on both sides use “the Jews” as a trope for their hatred of “elite globalist corporatist free trade Davos/Soros WEF” types.

    I stand with the Jewish people and Israel against this idiotic populist movement.

    1. Mother's Lament (proud Kol Nidre for Misek)   2 years ago (edited)

      “Populists on both sides use “the Jews” as a trope for their hatred of “elite globalist corporatist free trade Davos/Soros WEF” types.”

      Imagine trying to use Hamas’s brutality as a way of attacking populism and criticism of Soros and his fascist actions.

      You’re truly a piece of shit, Buttplug. There’s no depth you won’t stoop to in defense of that wicked old man.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        You and your Neo-Nazi brethren are all in for Donnie:

        “Man, President Trump’s Twitter account has been pure fire lately. This might be the funniest thing he’s ever tweeted. This is the kind of WHITE NATIONALISM we elected him for,” wrote Andrew Anglin on his Daily Stormer site – one of the most highly trafficked neo-Nazi websites.
        .
        “And we’re obviously seeing it only because there’s another election coming up. But I’ll tell you, even knowing that, it still feels so good.”
        .
        Neo-Nazi Anglin should pay $14M to Jewish woman in troll storm attack, judge says

        MAGA for the Fatherland!

        1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

          No one believes your bullshit.

        2. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

          Except sarcasmic.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            And Misek.

        3. R Mac   2 years ago

          You were banned for posting links to child pornography.

        4. Mother's Lament (proud Kol Nidre for Misek)   2 years ago

          Look at you immediately switch topics. You're so shit at this.

          Seriously, did you just get fired by the fifty-cent factory for incompetence? Because it seems like you're just aimlessly trolling lately.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            No, the relevant topic is the populist demonization of Jews.

            You and Andrew Anglin are both Neo-Nazis.

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Soros is viewed by his actions. Not his relatives religions. But you know that.

            2. Mother's Lament (proud Kol Nidre for Misek)   2 years ago

              Team Blue - "Populists are anti-semitic"
              Also Team Blue - "The jews brought this on themselves. Right-wingers are Israeli shills"

              Pick one and stick to it, Pluggo.

              Also, explain to me how you can pull the anti-semite card for an evil billionaire who explicitly said that he doesn't identify as Jewish. Do you want me to link to the video?

              You're such dishonest garbage.

              1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                You're the liar.

                I never said the Jews brought this on themselves.

                I did say "I stand with Israel and the Jews".

                Lying is all you have left.

                1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                  Left? Dude, arguing against lies he makes up about people is all he's ever done.

                  1. Mother's Lament (proud Kol Nidre for Misek)   2 years ago

                    I clearly said Team Blue was saying those things and Pluggo changed it around. You can see it just two posts above. I know you're dumb but it takes an extraordinary credulity to believe anything Shrike says.

                    I realize you're looking for allies in your war against us, but Buttplug and Misek aren't those allies. If you were smarter you wouldn't want anything to do with them.

                    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                      Pick one and stick to it, Pluggo.

                      Means that I said or agreed with BOTH.

                      You lie.

                    2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      Calling you out for being a liar doesn't have anything to do with anyone except you. You see, I don't care who you lie to or about. So when I point out the fact that you have to make up shit to have something to argue against, I'm not defending or helping the person you're lying about. I'm simply pointing out that you're a piece of garbage that would probably suffer an allergic reaction if you said anything truthful.

                    3. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

                      He didnt lie you ignorant fuck. His words are 2 posts higher. You continue to do this. Are you functionally illiterate or something?

                      And as you have been shown time and time again it is you who lies about your past arguments.

                    4. Mother's Lament (proud Kol Nidre for Misek)   2 years ago (edited)

                      Sarckles: “You see, I don’t care who you lie to or about.”

                      You also don’t care IF I lied or not, just as long as your pedo pal gives you an opportunity for a cheap-shot. You’re such a dishonest fucking meathead, Sarckles. I challenge you to give me one instance where I lied. Just one.

                      Fucking mop-head.

                      Plugstick: “Means that I said or agreed with BOTH.”

                      It means exactly what I said, you prevaricating fuck. Pick one and stick with it.

                  2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    Ideas!

                2. Mother's Lament (proud Kol Nidre for Misek)   2 years ago

                  But that's not what I wrote, Pluggo.
                  I told you to pick a narrative.
                  It's funny how you think people can't read the comment your attacking and will just take your word on a act of faith... Well, maybe you're right. There's always sarcasmic.

            3. DesigNate   2 years ago

              Being against that piece of shit living Nazi, Soros, doesn’t make someone anti-Semitic you racist chimp.

          2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

            Shreek has always been an idiot. And he’s got nothing here. It would be one thing if he spews smart enough to make some bullshit argument, but he’s not.

            Nope. Shreek is just a subnormal idiot.

        5. Minadin   2 years ago

          https://notthebee.com/article/that-neo-nazi-whos-all-over-twitter-and-is-def-not-a-fed--guess-who-he-likes-for-president

      2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

        Well, he already rapes small children, and enjoys watching others rape small children, so this isn’t much of a surprise.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Oh spare me the irony, asshole. You white knighted Misek, a fucking Nazi, yesterday, and now you're all about calling opposition to George Soros and his Open Society as antisemitism? Fuck off, retard.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        Liar. My only comment EVER to Misek was this:

        "Who did you vote for?" - which he ignored. He probably has me on mute though.

        I prefer to watch you birds of a feather fight each other.

        1. R Mac   2 years ago

          You should turn yourself in for your crimes against children.

        2. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

          Your mask (which, to be fair, never fit well anyway) has completely dropped.

        3. Mother's Lament (proud Kol Nidre for Misek)   2 years ago (edited)

          Pluggo and Misek sitting in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-Gee. First comes love, then comes marriage, then comes a (dead raped jewish child) in a baby carriage.

        4. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

          Uh huh. You’re his bitch.

        5. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
          turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

    3. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

      Still think Soros can’t be attacked for his actions since he is Jewish huh. He was a nazi and doesn't actually practice Judaism.

      1. middlefinger   2 years ago

        And laughed about it on camera, in an interview. There’s really no hope for progressives. The cities they’ve run into the ground are losing taxpayers and businesses are now open to wanton slaughter.

    4. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    5. charliehall   2 years ago

      "I stand with the Jewish people and Israel against this idiotic populist movement."

      Thank you.

  9. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Did Rep. George Santos (R–N.Y.) commit credit card fraud?

    Can't he steal from constituents the normal way?

    1. Minadin   2 years ago

      I mean, say what you will about all the millions of dollars of graft and corruption, but at least the people Biden and Menendez took money from gave it willingly and actually got something for it . . .

  10. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

    Here is Jack Marshall.

    https://groups.google.com/g/Talk.Politics.Guns/c/Hubz58JtRFM

    I Know “Fact Don’t Matter” To The Woke Anti-Semites, But At Least They
    Should Know What Facts They’re Ignoring…
    OCTOBER 11, 2023 / JACK MARSHALL

    In the short (5.5 minutes) video above, an articulate, objective,
    unpretentious podcaster explains the origins of the possibly endless
    Israel-Palestinian conflict in terms even “The Squad” should be able to
    understand (but won’t). He doesn’t even have to go into more recent
    events, like the Palestinian reliance on terrorism for the last 50
    years, or point out that Israel took over Gaza after it successfully
    defended itself against a coordinated, unprovoked attack, the second, by
    surrounding Arab nations, or dwell on the fact (there’s that word again)
    that the group still refuses to accept the legitimacy of the nation of
    Israel and is pledged to wipe it from the map.

    It is a quick, accurate (if simplified) history lesson that should be
    mandatory viewing for all of the young, unethical (incompetent, unfair,
    irresponsible…) bigots and fools cheering on Hamas at colleges and
    universities. As for the alleged American “intellectuals” who are
    posting pictures of the Hamas paragliders with machine guns as an image
    of liberation, I’m not sure what can help them re-enter reality…or decency.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      But "oppression"!

  11. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Twitter has been full of profoundly insane takes from Extremely Online leftists.

    To be fair, you could take the "leftists" off and it would still be accurate.

    1. Nardz   2 years ago

      You could also replace "twitter" with "Reason"

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

        Or replace Twitter with X

        1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

          I thought twitter was already replaced with mastodon?

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Threads is the new hang.

        2. DesigNate   2 years ago

          Never!

  12. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    not much surprises me but i've been taken aback by the almost literal bullet-biting of "if a Native American wanted to murder me i would just have to say 'well played' and die" people have been doing on here

    To be fair (again), the average Extremely Online leftists would not know how to circle actual wagons and don't own firearms, so the scalps would be coming off either way.

    1. Krokko   2 years ago

      I'm sure some hipster out there is trying to rediscover covered wagons... Distantly related to the guy who put wagon wheels on his Charger, but that's funny.

    2. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

      When you watch the narrative reflect backwards off the end of history, “The Gal Who Got Rattled” story from “The Ballad Of Buster Scruggs” is an old-timey Western interpretation of a modern true story.

  13. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    If you like skanky whores like I do then GOOD NEWS!

    Lauren Boebert’s divorce finalized, after shouting match behind closed doors
    With her grandson in her arms, U.S. Rep. Boebert appears in court to dissolve 17-year marriage to Jayson Boebert
    .
    According to her book, “My American Life,” Lauren married Jayson Boebert in 2006 after meeting him while she was working at a Burger King in Rifle. She had dropped out of high school.
    .
    Before they married, Jayson had pleaded guilty to public indecency after allegedly exposing himself to two girls who were with Lauren at a Rifle bowling alley. Lauren came to his defense in the book, denying that Jayson had exposed himself.
    .
    Since then, Jayson Boebert has been in the news for allegedly threatening neighbors after they complained about his sons for speeding around on an ATV in the Silt subdivision where the Boeberts lived.

    https://coloradosun.com/2023/10/10/lauren-boeberts-divorce-finalized/

    Look at Lauren's attorney. She is rocking it out stripper style.

    Very nice!

    1. Mother's Lament (proud Kol Nidre for Misek)   2 years ago

      Amusing watching you pretend you're sexually attracted to adult women.

      1. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

        Or that the Left disapproves of skanky whores.

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

          I strongly approve of them. Love that Nancy Mace since I saw her charming Bill Maher on Real Time.

          Stupid Democrats expelled their hottest skank (Katie Hill) for just a little girl-on-girl tongue play.

          1. Sevo   2 years ago

            The TDS-addled turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
            turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

          2. Pear Satirical   2 years ago

            Wrong again, Katie Hill resigned.

      2. R Mac   2 years ago

        To be fair, most men that have a healthy attraction to women don’t refer to them as skanky whores.

        1. Dillinger   2 years ago

          ^^^

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Closeted pedophile acts like a closeted gay guy.

      1. Mother's Lament (proud Kol Nidre for Misek)   2 years ago

        Pluggo is in no way closeted. You don't post the stuff he did when you are in the closet.

  14. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    More than 4,000 autoworkers at three General Motors plants in Canada went on strike yesterday...

    So, America, all your GM's will be built south of the border soon.

    1. Mother's Lament (proud Kol Nidre for Misek)   2 years ago

      Windsor, Ontario is directly south of Detroit so in a sense they were.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Which, of course, makes the Journey song so damn funny.

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

          Journey sucks.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            Did anyone chime your bell and ask for your opinion?

          2. Sevo   2 years ago

            turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
            turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

        2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

          Journey sucks (cannot be said enough).

          1. Sevo   2 years ago

            turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
            turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

  15. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Within the first 15 minutes of her testimony, Ms. Ellison repeatedly blamed Mr. Bankman-Fried, 31, for crimes that led to FTX's implosion...

    Putting her literal 15 minutes to good use.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      I guess scorned women is still a thing.

      1. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

        Her parents aren't super connected political leftists to my knowledge so anything to save her skin.

  16. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago (edited)

    There’s no problem so complex that the center-right believes can’t be solved by MOAR globalist managerialism:

    Israel can certainly kill a lot of people, break a lot of things, and displace a lot of civilians. Then what? Someone will need to govern and police the place. Why not jump to the inevitable: a multinational force needs to insert itself to root out Hamas and assume control of Gaza. It can provide the buffer with Israel, guarantee humanitarian relief, and continue to drive Hamas hanger-ons into the holes they deserve. As dysfunctional and littered with anti-semitism as the UN is, it can avoid the legitimacy problem that Israel will face…along with the proportionality and escalation critiques. The arab world…with eyes to Jordan and Egypt…must take the lead in managing Gaza. There’s no perfect solution but coexistence with a security buffer might be the best to be hoped for.

    These people are so fucking stupid and self-assured. The total lack of future-time orientation or understanding of the politics and culture of the Middle East, particularly in Israel and the Palestinian territories, would be stunning they hadn’t already demonstrated how ill-equipped they are over the last 40 years to be offering ANY kind of advice on the various conflicts there.

    Seriously, look at those fucking “solutions.” Tired, worn-out prescriptions straight out of 80s and 90s neocon Middle Eastern policy playbook–“insert globalist organization, add a dash of local paternalism, and poof–magic happens and peace is assured.” Two generations after becoming the thought leaders and policy makers of the GOP, and these idiots still haven’t learned a fucking thing.

    1. JFree   2 years ago (edited)

      The impulse here imo is for someone else to take over and solve the ‘Palestinian problem’ for Israel.

      One of the better analyses I’ve read is to try to answer – WHY did Hamas take the risk here to do what they did?

      Israel has been ignoring the Palestinian stuff for decades. Really since just after Camp David (Sadat initiated that) which was itself a consequence of the intelligence failure of 1973. With a strategy of – make peace with the Arab states and buy them off and then we can do whatever we want with the ‘Palestinians’ remaining in West Bank or Gaza.

      And it’s worked up til now. The Abraham Accords – turning Fatah into ‘prison camp guards’ via the bullshit of ‘peace process’ that goes nowhere – and the ‘Palestinian problem’ fading into irrelevance.

      But my guess is that Hamas has made a bet here. That the Israeli reaction v Gaza (a totally predictable consequence of these attacks) will mobilize the ‘Arab street’ against anyone who makes a deal with Israel. Arab governments fear their street opinion more than anything, so those deals are all off. For now at least. And Hamas has basically killed that Israeli strategy – meaning there is no Arab states peace with Israel without first resolving the ‘Palestine problem’.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        You really don't know why Hamas attacked Israel? They are open about it.

        1. JFree   2 years ago

          I am 100% certain you have not spent one nanosecond of time reading Hamas' explanations. Nor have you spent one nanosecond reading sources that in turn read Hamas's explanation - eg AlJazeera

          eg - We want the international community to stop atrocities in Gaza, against Palestinian people, our holy sites like Al-Aqsa. All these things are the reason behind starting this battle
          or

          This is the day of the greatest battle to end the last occupation on Earth
          or

          Everyone who has a gun should take it out. The time has come,
          or

          Hamas called on “the resistance fighters in the West Bank” as well as “our Arab and Islamic nations” to join the battle, in a statement posted on Telegram
          or

          Osama Hamdan, senior spokesperson for Hamas, told Al Jazeera that the group was not attacking civilians even though the group’s own videos have shown its fighters taking elderly Israelis hostage during the fighting on Saturday. "You have to differentiate between settlers and civilians. Settlers attacked Palestinians,” Hamdan said

          Okie dokie. Allrighty then.

          So what you are saying is that your 3rd or 4th or 5th or 6th hand - or completely made up bullshit - source of propaganda has all the answers to questions you really don't give a shit about anyway. Par for the course. Ooh - what does Fox have to say? Or zerohedge? Or whogivesaflyingshit.com? Enquiring minds want to know!!

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

            I’m sure Hamas has a charter you can read for their open declarations. But you and facts don’t seem to go together.

            But keep pushing rationalizations for the acts to defend the acts.

          2. One-Punch_Man   2 years ago

            "Fatah’s military wing the Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades, is calling on Palestinians to slaughter Jews who they term ‘apes and pigs.’” That’s actually a reference to the Islamic holy book, the Qur’an, which, in three separate passages, refers to Allah punishing Sabbath-breaking Jews by transforming them into apes and pigs (2:53-65; 5:59-60; 7:166)."

            "Hamas military commander Mohammed Deif hailed the beginning of what he called “Operation Al-Aqsa Deluge.” He said that the massacres of that day were just the “first strike,” and that much more was coming. Deif declared: “I say to the masses of the people and our nation, and to the free people of the world: Today, the wrath of Al-Aqsa has exploded – the rage of our people, our nation, and the free people of the world. I say to our pure mujahideen: This is the day that you make this criminal enemy understand that its time is up. ‘Kill them wherever you may find them.’” That also was a quotation from the Qur’an (2:191, 4:89, cf. 9:5).

            Humm, believe them or someone like you who's a liar. Oh and all those videos of beheadings - they were just 5th hand.

            Go Die

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago (edited)

        The impulse here imo is for someone else to take over and solve the ‘Palestinian problem’ for Israel.

        That pretty much describes the whole socio-political MO of the neocon right–they ALWAYS expect some savior of competency and effective decision-making to emerge from the mists and provide the leadership they expect (which is why they’re gravitating like moths towards Nikki Haley right now). They’re like a derivative of the bureaucrats who told Hank Rearden, “Oh, you’ll think of something!” Just brazen, willfull ignorance to any kind of reality or complex problem that supposedly can’t be solved with some form of benevolent managerialism to “move the ball forward.”

        It’s incredibly ironic that a political faction represented by people like Mona Charen, who wrote book called “Useful Idiots,” have become the very thing they called their opponents 20 years ago.

        But my guess is that Hamas has made a bet here. That the Israeli reaction v Gaza (a totally predictable consequence of these attacks) will mobilize the ‘Arab street’ against anyone who makes a deal with Israel. Arab governments fear their street opinion more than anything, so those deals are all off.

        If Hamas made that bet, it was a short-sighted one. I’ll just repost what I wrote here yesterday:

        “It’s pretty clear that Hamas was expecting this attack to galvanize support in the Middle East and kick off a regional war against Israel by showing how vulnerable they were. Hamas, even with Iranian support and arms purchases from God knows where, are simply not kitted out for a protracted fight beyond a couple of days, and it was inevitable that Israel was going to go full bore once they’d gotten over the shock of the attack and re-organized their defenses. If you start a war of annihilation, you better know for damn sure that every other Arab nation has got your back–and the problem for the Palestinians is that the leaders of these nations simply don’t give a shit.

        Erdogan is Muslim Brotherhood, but he’s got enough problems in his own backyard and isn’t going to devote anything other lip service support. Saudi Arabia sees Israel’s existence as a business decision now, since they are a counter to Iran. Qatar is hosting the leader of Hamas, but the Emir is still caught between keeping things calm between him and Iran due to the Gulf gas fields, and the rest of the GCC nations who actively despise him for hosting more extremist Arab leaders. The UAE doesn’t give a squirt of piss for the Palestinians, Egypt does not want a Muslim Brotherhood revival in the country, Syria’s still trying to secure its own territory, and any involvement by Hezbollah from Lebanon gives Iran’s involvement away.”

        1. JFree   2 years ago

          You're trying to assess:
          a)what the leaders of those states (and their armies) are going to do in the absence of Hamas changing the pressure on them from below - from their street opinion.
          and
          b)the assumption that they are a 'government' of Palestinians.

          The former may well be a big Hamas mistake but that is still to be seen. It will prove to be a mistake if the Arab street simply ignores what is going to be happening in Gaza over the next few weeks/months. As long as they can ignore their own street, or their street itself doesn't care about Palestinians, then those leaders can make their deals with Israel no matter how corrupt.

          The latter is always a faulty assumption by Westerners. To us - a Giant Douche and a Turd Sandwich is a comedic joke. To Palestinians or most Arabs - that IS their governing choice. And both of those choices are armed. So the question is not what would a reasonable Palestinian government want to achieve for Palestinians - but what would an Armed Turd Sandwich want? From the best possible perspective - Hamas gets its local respect from charity work - so the more charity Palestinians need, the more they are victims - the more respect Hamas will get.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

            a)what the leaders of those states (and their armies) are going to do in the absence of Hamas changing the pressure on them from below – from their street opinion.

            They don't give a fuck about "street opinion" unless it means there's a threat to them actually getting kicked out--and the only way that happens is if the CIA foments another "Arab Spring" like they did in 2011.

            b)the assumption that they are a ‘government’ of Palestinians.

            They are. Hamas has been running the Gaza strip for years, specifically because the Palestinians there want them to do so.

      3. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

        Israel can solve their own problems, JFree. Maybe America can hold Israel's coat while they take out the trash.

        1. JFree   2 years ago

          Israel has done a massively crappy job for decades 'solving' its neighbor problems. I agree that that failure does NOT mean the US should get involved in 'fixing' anything because obviously we can't. But at least be honest.

          'Holding Israel's coat' means, at minimum, the US supplying the planes, missiles, etc for the attack on Gaza. For which Hezbollah has just held the US responsible. For which factions in Iraq are now saying they will attack US bases there if the US gets further involved. For which some Syrian factions(?) are now lobbing missiles into the Golan Heights. We didn't send one aircraft carrier - with one more on the way - and possibly a third to the Indian Ocean if things start going south - to 'hold a coat'.

    2. Nardz   2 years ago

      https://twitter.com/The_Real_Fly/status/1712108342200402165?t=yEp4GKEibAIA-Ccd0lUWBg&s=19

      Putin:

      “I don't understand why the US is transferring aircraft carriers to the Mediterranean Sea. I don't see the point, what are they planning to do, to bomb Lebanon, or what? Or did they simply decide to scare someone? But there are people there who are no longer afraid of anything.”

      1. Mother's Lament (proud Kol Nidre for Misek)   2 years ago

        Probably to stop Turkey or Egypt from considering doing something rash. It's super unlikely but still a remote possibility.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Probably Turkey and Iran more than Egypt. Last time Egypt did something rash, they lost the entire Sinai Peninsula.

          1. Mother's Lament (proud Kol Nidre for Misek)   2 years ago

            Modern Egypt isn't exactly a high-IQ country and Arabs are famous for not learning a lesson the first 100 times.

        2. One-Punch_Man   2 years ago

          Turkey is actually taking in Jew refuges. Something like 200k. At least, that is what their news is saying. GF's mother lives there.

    3. VinniUSMC   2 years ago

      They don't want to solve the problem, for Israel or otherwise, they want to prevent Israel from solving the problem at all.

  17. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

    It's odd for Liz to be advocating for zero repercussions for leftists supporting genocide or excusing their actions. The NYU student wrote with the authority of her position that this barbarity was necessary and losing her job prospects while that is the top google result doesn't seem disproportionate especially in NY. I'm sure she'll find a position in the ADL or ACLU or among any other anti-semitic Demovrat NGO or officeholder in a few weeks.

    1. Nardz   2 years ago

      https://twitter.com/wanyeburkett/status/1711965731091259404?t=zbP0D-6oajlO68uH5FbMzw&s=19

      You really could (and probably still can) say literally anything, no matter how insane, about any of the recent "social justice" issues and you'd be fine so long as it was vaguely leftwing. For many kids this is the first time ever that this isn't true.

      [Link]

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Reason's take on cancel culture just a few years back was to ignore it when conservatives were talking and scream private companies.

      They only started really defending it when the left started being harmed.

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

        Also, the(ir) definition morphed from an ex parte adjudication of confidential or unconscionable acts to first party termination of contracts/agreements in relatively real time for literal or obvious violations.

        OK, photos of James Gunn, a decade ago, dressed as a priest at some Halloween or other weird Hollywood Party surfacing amid allegations of abuse as he directs GOTG3? Yeah, that might be Cancel Culture and might be coming predominantly from the right (although with a white, cis-male as the target in the #MeToo era, and the lack of clarity as to when the last time photos were taken and/or an event like that held, who knows).

        Firing someone today for supporting the killing of over 1,000 people this weekend? Nope.

        It’s like saying smacking (or otherwise disciplining) your dog for shitting on your floor years ago as a puppy is an obnoxiously punitive and irrational act but smacking (or otherwise disciplining) it right away for biting your hand as an adult dog is equally obnoxious and irrational. No, it definitively, by our fundamental understanding of cognition and reasoning, it not.

        1. Stuck in California   2 years ago

          I said it yesterday. It really feels like they're trying to gaslight us, like the cancel movement and the online mobs didn't happen.

          We know better. Firing someone for being stupid isn't cancelling, we know this. But if they say it enough then just firing someone is the same as getting an online mob going because someone said he instead of xe or told a dirty joke 15 years ago.

        2. Nardz   2 years ago

          Gotta be careful whose killings you celebrate...

      2. Stuck in California   2 years ago

        Well, I "ignore" it the way I ignore the drug addled homeless guy screaming at his invisible friend.

        Even if I don't say something, I make a mental note. I won't hire them. I won't associate with them if I have a choice.

        Anyone stupid enough to put that volatile an opinion online while they're looking for a high profile job is not someone who makes good decisions. Probably poison for a company culture, as well.

      3. One-Punch_Man   2 years ago

        Except this wasn't cancel culture. There was no mob currently. This was a company that didn't want to be associated with that imagine. Liz's - oh this isn't someone important. Doesn't matter. If you lose 1 client because of it, that's some big bucks.

        Same as the porn star and the comedian. Comedian didn't like what she said and fired her

  18. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    In Ohio, pro-lifers and pro-choicers are anxiously watching the fate of an abortion referendum...

    Groooooooooooan.

  19. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    A sailor in the U.S. Navy was "arrested on national security charges pleaded guilty Tuesday to conspiring with a Chinese intelligence officer and receiving a bribe..."

    Get a load of the Big Guy wannabe.

    1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

      It could have been an episode of JAG.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

        No more F-14 Tomcats to fight crime in.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Shoulda partnered with Hunter.

      1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

        This isn’t big enough for Hunter. He only does large scale high treason.

        1. Mother's Lament (proud Kol Nidre for Misek)   2 years ago

          Milley will do it for free.

  20. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/Babygravy9/status/1712058666231246969?t=skAGs8W2Gu-9ZshtuwgYvw&s=19

    People forget just how coordinated the official response to the Bataclan massacre was across the Western world. Any suggestion that the attacks demonstrated the abject failure of multiculturalism was totally prohibited. It was more important for our leaders to appear at mosques to demonstrate "solidarity" against scapegoating and bigotry than it was to condemn the attacks themselves or even comfort the victims.

    [Link]

  21. R Mac   2 years ago

    “(For more on Ohio's referendum, see Elizabeth Nolan Brown's coverage here. For more on abortion and libertarianism, go here.)”

    No thanks, I’m good.

  22. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    George Will calls on Tim Scott to drop out of White House race, back Haley

    https://thehill.com/homenews/4248403-george-will-calls-on-tim-scott-to-drop-out-of-white-house-race-back-haley/

    Who knew that George Will is a racist?

    “Or he can try to become someone whom, to his credit, he has no aptitude for being — another peddler of synthetic anger, stoking today’s rage culture.”

    Nailed it.

    1. Mother's Lament (proud Kol Nidre for Misek)   2 years ago

      "Who knew that George Will is a racist?"

      Did he say stuff like this?

      Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2 3 mins ago
      Flag Comment Mute User
      Uncle Clarence has had his hand out for over 20 years. GIMME DAT WHITIE MONEY!
      Sandy, I had a genuine fear that a Senator Walker would be shucking and jiving us good liberty-loving Georgians every day.
      Pharma Bro Vivek Ramaswamy... Trouble in Bollywood!
      Tim Scott 400-1 Whuffo Bro? Whuffo is you in dis race fo, bro?
      Do you remember Spermin’ Herman Cain? He sounded like a slave extra from Song of the South.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        Why yes, he did. It is an unwritten GOP rule that a Republican cannot criticize their token voter prop.

        1. Mother's Lament (proud Kol Nidre for Misek)   2 years ago

          Remind me again how minstrel-speak is criticism.

        2. JesseAz   2 years ago

          And now all black conservatives are just tokens. Another racist statement. No black person can ever leave your Dem plantation.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            What do you call that party assignment every four years whether it be Alan Keyes, Herman Cain, Ben Carson, or Tim Scott his cycle?

            Realistically, none of them could ever win the nomination.

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Al Sharpton has run for the DNC ticket 3 times. Democrats hate Kamala. Must all be racist.

            2. damikesc   2 years ago

              Explains the wealth of black candidates for the Dem...oh wait, they are sticking with the poster boy for pasty whiteness, Biden.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                And using Kamala Harris as a house...oh, wait a minute.

            3. Sevo   2 years ago

              turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
              If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
              turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

    2. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

  23. JFree   2 years ago

    So how in hell did Hamas - Sunni Islamists - make kissy-face with Hezbollah and Iran - Shiite Islamists? Those two Islamists tend to despise each other as worst possible enemies.

    Well turns out that Israel was the matchmaker. Go figure. In 1992, Israel deported 450 or so Hamas fighters from Gaza/West Bank up to no-mans-land in Lebanon. They weren't guilty of anything but some shit somewhere had happened.

    During that 2 years, those Hamas folks learned all the stuff that Hezbollah (also an 'unintended consequence' of Israel) had been doing over the previous decade during Israel's invasion of Lebanon.

    The interesting process lesson from this comes from the btselem story. IDF had originally tried to hide the deportation and just quietly make it happen without any judicial review. Judicial review didn't much matter - courts will almost always defer to other branches - but in principle checks/balances can serve as a form of crowdsourcing for decisions and not just individual protection of rights. A better outcome for Israel would have been if someone had said - what the fuck are you IDF assclowns trying to do linking up two opponents of Israel?

    1. Mother's Lament (proud Kol Nidre for Misek)   2 years ago

      "IT ISRAEL'S FAULT!!! THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE DEPORTED THEM!"

      1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

        Yeah, they should of executed them.

        1. JFree   2 years ago

          That would certainly have no unintended consequences.

    2. Moonrocks   2 years ago

      In 1992, Israel deported 450 or so Hamas fighters from Gaza/West Bank up to no-mans-land in Lebanon. They weren’t guilty of anything but some shit somewhere had happened.

      So some people did some things and then, for no reason at all, some Hamas fighters were deported?

      1. JFree   2 years ago

        You can read those links if you choose to. Or not.

        The actual perpetrators of the shit (four of them) were arrested, sentenced to life, were put in solitary confinement for 20 years and are still in prison. It's the other 1000 who were part of the deportation.

        1. damikesc   2 years ago

          Could we read something remotely neutral?

          1. JFree   2 years ago

            Maybe try to read purely for facts. If you want an opinion, make one yourself. Btselem and WINEP are at completely opposite ends of any political opinion spectrum. And yet - they can agree on basic facts. Which is admittedly a fuckload better than most commenters here can do.

        2. R Mac   2 years ago

          450 or 1000?

          1. JFree   2 years ago (edited)

            1000 were arrested specifically in response. 450 were sent in that secret deportation. idk about the others. There was an intifada going on.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Just like at all those peaceful BLM and Antifa gatherings.

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      So how in hell did Hamas – Sunni Islamists – make kissy-face with Hezbollah and Iran – Shiite Islamists? Those two Islamists tend to despise each other as worst possible enemies.

      The problem with trying analyze Middle Eastern geopolitical relations is that you simply can't do it along dualistic lines. The culture there may be thoroughly tribalistic, but the only common denominator there is how easily and quickly supposed allies will stab each other in the back for the most gossamer of short-term gains, or how long-term enemies will temporarily ally with each other for the same purpose, before going back to struggling with each other.

    4. B G   2 years ago

      So it was somehow unexpected that Sunni and Shia Islamists would decide they're all Islamists first, both believe that genocide is an admirable goal where Jews are involved (and hate the USA for making the completion of that goal past their capabilities), and that their factional differences will keep until the "infidels" are dealt with?

      In 1992, the survivors of the Holocaust and their direct children had a more significant presence in Israeli culture, and the idea of "never again" still categorically included not doing it by their own hand; even if there's plenty of room to debate whether anything which only affected one "Nationality" of Arabs (who the rest of the Arab world doesn't seem to care much for anyway unless claiming to serves some other objective). I don't know that the current population is ready to pull the trigger on mass executions and potentially deliberate eradication yet, but attacks like the one Hamas launched can't be making them generally less inclined toward the idea by and large.

  24. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

    Sbp wasn't a public figure but reason banned him for posting links to child porn

  25. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/michaeljknowles/status/1711930887871332811?t=SZKHWJcixqQ-mxPAmTXnjw&s=19

    I know Ukraine is yesterday's news, but in case anyone cares, the American transvestite who threatened to murder American journalists has been reinstated as the Ukrainian military spokesman. NATO has since praised "her."

    [Link]

    1. Mother's Lament (proud Kol Nidre for Misek)   2 years ago

      "the American transvestite who threatened to murder American journalists has been reinstated as the Ukrainian military spokesman."

      Wonder how much that cost Disney.

      1. HorseConch   2 years ago

        I hope there aren't more bigots cancelling disney+ when this becomes their next flagship franchise.

    2. mad.casual   2 years ago

      I don't think I could possibly laugh harder at Baghdad Bob, in a blond wig, saying "The donation of ATACMs will save tax dollars."

      It's even more absurd, over-the-top, misogynist and stridently dishonest than either Jon Lovitz' Tommy Flanagan/Liars Anonymous bits or Norm McDonald's Weekend Update bits on SNL.

  26. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/LDBildy/status/1711775096170578284?t=KXzHnhx0KNe2Pp2MCuIPOQ&s=19

    Many people in the West have long been flirting with very dangerous ideas from the safety of a stable society.

    Did they really think that provocative concepts like “unearned privilege”, “decolonization” and evil “whiteness” would just stay in academia and never be acted upon in the streets? That fostering resentment and oppression narratives would somehow morph society into euphoric liberation and unity without first opening the gates of hell?

    I fear they are about to discover that steadily hacking away at the guardrails that kept the worst impulses of human nature in check was really, really stupid. And there will be no “safe spaces” and colouring books to protect them (or the rest of us).

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago (edited)

      Did they really think that provocative concepts like “unearned privilege”, “decolonization” and evil “whiteness” would just stay in academia and never be acted upon in the streets?

      Yeah, they did, and I’ve been pointing out to those same people for over 20 years how stupid that belief was, too, especially after the center-right willfully ceded the nation’s cultural institutions to the left after getting spooked by MTV and Arsenio Hall's blatant electioneering for Clinton in 1992.

    2. One-Punch_Man   2 years ago

      Detroit, Chicago, Philadelphia, etc - it's already the wild west. San Fran tells you to leave your car unlocked to protect your windows.

      We are way past impulses

      1. B G   2 years ago

        Leftists don't negotiate with aggressors, they capitulate pre-emptively and hope there's no follow up demand.

    3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

      Yup, this is where “Everything Is So Terrible And Unfair!!! as an ideology must eventually lead to.

      It’s gonna be ugly.

  27. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/ScottMGreer/status/1712107731878850822?t=lstkO5jV0i4b2YcUbq6jJg&s=19

    This is the hilarious thing about people melting down over these pro-Palestine statements from university groups. These institutions and groups are explicitly anti-white and many of the same people outraged now shrug at that.

    [Link]

  28. tracerv   2 years ago

    Oh boy. The death count tracker is up and running again. Ever notice how the press gets this going on something they are against? I never see it on a "good" military event they are pushing.

    I don't give a shit how many Hamas members are killed by IDF. I hope it's all of them. Fuck the media.

    1. tracerv   2 years ago

      https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/10/middleeast/israel-kibbutzim-kfar-aza-beeri-urim-hamas-attack-intl/index.html

      "Children found ‘butchered’ in Israeli kibbutz, IDF says, as horror of Hamas’ attacks near border begins to emerge"

      Fuck all these animals.

  29. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Even throwing rocks at the Pritzker mansion gets one out of jail as per the SAFE-T Act.

    https://cwbchicago.com/2023/10/man-accused-of-stalking-jb-pritzker-throwing-rocks-at-his-mansion-is-released-on-electronic-monitoring.html

    A Cook County judge on Tuesday rejected a prosecutor’s request to have a man who allegedly stalked and threw rocks at the home of Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker jailed as a safety threat. Judge William Fahy decided that the public’s safety could be assured by releasing the man, 38-year-old Adam Dabash, on electronic monitoring instead, according to court records.

    Assistant State’s Attorney Anne McCord Rodgers told Fahy that surveillance video showed Dabash walking outside the governor’s home in the 1400 block of North Astor around 9:45 a.m. Monday. Dabash allegedly stopped twice to throw baseball-sized rocks at the mansion’s windows, then returned to throw another rock at the windows. She said three of the governor’s windows were damaged, with one rock recovered from inside the mansion and two found outside.

    Rodgers estimated the governor’s losses at $7,900.

    Dabash destroyed the mattress in his police holding cell and told officers at the police station that Illinois has a “m****r f****r for a governor.”

    Now that, I'll agree with.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      What if someone uses a machine to throw a lead pebble at pritzker?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Is it black with a thing that goes up?

      2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        I guess the question is, at what speed?

    2. Jerry B.   2 years ago

      Obviously, another MAGA white supremacy nut masquerading as a Black man.

    3. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

      This guy is an American hero. Does he have a GoFundMe?

  30. Ajsloss   2 years ago

    Wearing a scarlet letter—as Rep. Nancy Mace (R–S.C.) did, in reference to criticism she received for her vote to oust the speaker of the House—doesn't really make sense.

    But she wore the fuck out of it.

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      Was it an 'A' for adulterer?

      I need to know for my skank blog I'm writing.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        You need a scarlet "P" for the obvious reasons.

      2. Sevo   2 years ago

        The TDS-addled turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
        turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

  31. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

    "Twitter has been full of profoundly insane takes from Extremely Online leftists."

    The Left has embraced an ideology of extreme nihilistic self-loathing of Western Civilization. The realization that they would accept being exterminated for being an American of European descent is seems
    insane to one who does not subscribe to those beliefs, but seems to be the logical endpoint of their moral philosophy.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      What surprises me is people are surprised.

      I mean, I guess if you thought 2020-2023 was just an innocent expression of disquiet over systemic racism.

    2. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

      Ryan Carson would be marching for the Palestinian cause but HE DAID!

  32. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/Philosophi_Cat/status/1712001933651648916?t=anT0EK7em42Il3PW9T8GkA&s=19

    Really amazing to see the people who usually call everyone else Nazis suddenly acknowledging the failures of multiculturalism and championing ethnic cleansing as a means of securing an ethnonationalist state.

    Projection is a real thing…

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      Remember way back like 2 yrs. ago, when the Taliban was fighting for the liberation of its own people and the US was the culture tearing down statues, forcing women to cover their faces, and surgically mutilating little kids genitals?

      Progressivism, man! How far we've come!

    2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      My favorite thing is everyone wearing a MAGA hat is a no-shit, platinum rated Nazi, but an actual no-shit for-real Nazi who invaded Ukraine in 1939 riding in a Panzer tank while sporting a death's head symbol on his officer's cap has a more complicated relationship with National Socialism.

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago

        an actual no-shit for-real Nazi who invaded Ukraine in 1939 riding in a Panzer tank while sporting a death’s head symbol on his officer’s cap has a more complicated relationship with National Socialism.

        This is aboot respect! This is aboot dignity!

  33. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    A bit of satire regarding Mayor "Let's Go Brandon" Johnson.

    https://www.chicagocontrarian.com/blog/its-time-to-decolonize-israel-and-chicago-once-and-for-all

    Editor’s Note: "Chicago Contrarian" unequivocally condemns the horrific violence wrought on Israel. Our prayers cry out for the grandfathers, grandmothers, mothers, fathers, teens, children and babies raped, murdered and desecrated by Hamas, and the entire nation of Israel.

    ‍‍Words cannot describe our anger and grief.

    ‍‍But where does Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson stand on the topic? We extrapolated a bit from his own words on X and those of his most strategic colleagues in the Socialist (DSA) caucus in Chicago’s City Council – who have made it very clear on their call for destruction of the Jewish state and the killing of Jewish civilians, all the while as they occupy Chicago’s top leadership positions in City Hall thanks to recent mayoral appointments.

    1. Super Scary   2 years ago

      "We extrapolated a bit from his own words on X "

      X? What is that? Is it like Twitter?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        X is Twitter.

        1. Super Scary   2 years ago

          Oh right, I was thrown off by them not mentioning it. I guess we're finally past that now.

          1. mad.casual   2 years ago

            Does it really change anything at all if that's where they think the secret treasure is buried or if that's where Let's Go Brandon Johnson is supposed to stand while he says his lines?

  34. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago (edited)

    The folksy “hi y’all” and the candy corn and the “spooky” lettering, it’s really all too insane, you’d think it was a parody:

    Every woke hipster now uses y’all… it’s like some kind of zoomer thing. It makes me want to strangle kittens when I see it because you KNOW something smug and retarded is about to follow.

    1. Super Scary   2 years ago (edited)

      9 times out of 10, the people that are most likely to actually use “ya’ll” in conversation are the type of people that wouldn’t bother typing it out at way in text.

    2. mad.casual   2 years ago

      The way they go on about pronouns, appropriation, and individuals' lived experiences, you'd almost think it was between a self-loathing habit and subconcscious parasitic instinct to emulate and eviscerate the husk of the culture they've infected.

  35. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

    This article from Politico is so fucking LOL:

    Top American colleges seek to quell anti-Israel sentiment in wake of Hamas attacks

    Comments from college presidents calling for calm and compassion have been met with strong condemnation by student associations that took Israel to task over its control of the region. And Pro-Palestinian messaging from students has caused an uproar among political leaders on the left and the right. Harvard, Stanford and Georgetown were among those caught in the maelstrom, which also spread to other top schools.

    Gosh, turns out winding up dumbass college students with cultural marxist drivel about anti-colonialism and anti-racism might end up causing your rabid dogpack to turn on a lot of the people who teach at your universities, provide the schools with alumni donations, and hire them after graduation.

    They're going to have figure out a way to get their focus back on Evil White Christian Males as quickly as possible before this gets out of control.

    1. Illocust   2 years ago

      The problem they are having is that most of the young left doesn't care as much about the Christian part anymore and has focused on the white part. Jews are fucked because they are for the most part white.

      1. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

        Here or Israel? =Jews are fucked because they are for the most part white.

        If here, I agree. If Israel, most are not Ashkenazi.

        1. HorseConch   2 years ago

          That's not apparent from the bubbles of ignorance those morons reside in. If they looked into it that far, their beliefs would be challenged, and that's a violent act.

          1. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

            They're hopeless.

    2. Super Scary   2 years ago (edited)

      “They’re going to have figure out a way to get their focus back on Evil White Christian Males as quickly as possible before this gets out of control.”

      Sounds like we’re due for a person, known by the FBI no doubt, to cause a distraction.

      1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

        probably a patriot front, or the lincoln project marching with swastikas soon, so the media can refocus on the evil whites being the problem

        the very loud marxists are making it difficult to do that right now shouting "gas the jews"

    3. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      This is a conflict that the current far left marxists agenda has perfectly wound these zealots up for

      An oppressed, diverse group of POCs, living through "apartheid" under the boot of the evil white people in the region who are hoarding the power and wealth while cruelly oppressing the poor innocent Palestinians who never did anything wrong. And the colonialism of the state of Israel to boot.

      All their indoctrination has prepped them for this moment

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        Eh, it's really just more of the Same Old Shit when it comes to Israel and Palestine. I remember campus tards tard-raging about this when I went to college in the mid-90s, and I'm sure it was going around for at least a couple of decades before that.

    4. Minadin   2 years ago

      Apparently a ton of these students and groups are attempting to take back their signatures. This should be a fun lesson in how the adult world works.

      https://nypost.com/2023/10/11/harvard-students-take-back-support-for-hamas/

      Also, a bunch of post-graduate law students claiming they didn't read the statement before signing on? I don't blame their prospective employers for withdrawing their offers.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        To be fair, even post-grad college students are incredibly stupid people. I can see them being approached by the local campus commie group telling them, "sign this to support peace in the Middle East!" and pencil-whipping that shit without a second thought.

        1. Minadin   2 years ago

          To be fair, they're going to be reviewing contracts for clients in ~ 1 year.

  36. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    (For more on Ohio's referendum, see Elizabeth Nolan Brown's coverage here. For more on abortion and libertarianism, go here.)

    More hot female libertarian coverage please.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      That's Reason's subtle way of saying Read ENB here, get Libertarianism in a different place.

    2. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

      The fact that a racist like you praises her is very damaging to her reputation.

      1. Nardz   2 years ago

        Racism is the least of SPB's character flaws

    3. Mother's Lament (proud Kol Nidre for Misek)   2 years ago

      The fact that you're calling ENB "hot" tells me that you're not actually interested in adult women.

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago (edited)

        As crowder said “do you know why all the fashion magazines have anorexic modles that look like 12 year old boys? Because they are edited by gay men”

    4. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
      turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

  37. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Joe Biden sent 29k emails to Hunter, Jim, and their business associates like Rosemont Seneca while vice president. That's a lot of emails about weather.

    https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-joe-biden-emailed-businesses-associated-with-hunter-jim-biden-29000-times-while-vp

    1. Nardz   2 years ago

      It doesn't matter

      1. damikesc   2 years ago

        I'd love to see somebody who bemoans white privilege justify voting for the man whose son is the fucking poster boy for white privilege.

        1. Nardz   2 years ago

          Again, it doesn't matter

        2. HorseConch   2 years ago

          The entire family, not just Hunter. Best I can tell, not a single one of them has ever done anything productive and they're a goddamn dynasty.

    2. Minadin   2 years ago

      That's only like 10 per day (if you include weekends, holidays, vacations, etc). (15+ per business day).

  38. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    No, Hamas is not struggling against ‘apartheid’.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/10/11/no-hamas-is-not-struggling-against-apartheid/

    Just when you thought that parts of the left couldn’t sink any lower in their response to Hamas’s brutal assault in Israel, along comes Yanis Varoufakis.

    In a remarkable interview this week, the former Greek finance minister and founder of DiEM25 sought to present the slaughter of hundreds of Israeli civilians as the inevitable outcome of Israel’s oppression of the Palestinians. He claimed that Israel has long imposed a South African-style ‘apartheid’ regime on the Palestinians.

    The contrast between the struggle against Apartheid and Hamas’s war with Israel could hardly be starker. This weekend, Hamas carried out a pogrom against Jewish civilians. As Daniel Ben-Ami highlights, Hamas is not a national-liberation movement engaged in trying to free Palestine. It’s an anti-Semitic death cult, hell-bent on eliminating all Jews in the quest for an international Islamic order. There is not one iota of democratic idealism in Hamas’s make-up.

    1. Nardz   2 years ago

      I mean... Mandela did some really f'ed up stuff too. And anti-apartheid communism was every bit as centered around hating white people as Palestinian communism is centered around hating Jews.

  39. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/Aristos_Revenge/status/1712114927593287791?t=VXWycKjyOLvK1t7VilaShQ&s=19

    lmao, as a white dude I barely have words for this, not that I can say I am surprised

    "As a jewish kid in college you supported racial grievance politics wielded like a cudgel against whites and supported a foreign regime but now the scorpion stung the frog & you're confused?"

    [Link]

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      Umm... yeah... We literally told you that the first moment you were, not even obstructive of but merely inconvenient to, their quest for power they would put you against the wall and shoot you.

  40. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Brainwashed.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/10/11/no-hillary-trump-voters-dont-need-deprogramming/

    Liberalism in America is not in great shape right now. Since Donald Trump’s election victory in 2016, liberalism’s most prominent political representatives have become decidedly illiberal – and sometimes more than a little deranged.

    A case in point is failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. Last week, in a CNN interview with Christiane Amanpour, she tried to explain Trump’s enduring popularity with a large segment of American voters. Those voters, she explained, are ‘extremists’ and they’re in ‘a cult’. ‘At some point’, she continued, ‘there needs to be a formal deprogramming of the cult members… Something needs to happen.’

    But there is an alternative, even more disconcerting explanation for Clinton’s statement: she might actually believe it. This politician, who currently holds no political office and therefore has no real political mandate, might actually want to lock up millions of her fellow countrymen in re-education camps because they still want to vote for her erstwhile opponent. And she had the nerve to call Trump an ‘authoritarian’. Does nobody own a mirror in Washington, DC?

    But since her loss to Trump, Clinton and the liberal establishment she represents have become more and more deranged. So much so that they all seem perfectly willing to destroy every democratic norm, usually in the name of ‘saving democracy’ from those they disagree with. And the more hysterical and despotic they become, the saner Trump looks by comparison. This despite him being the same bombastic, unpredictable candidate who himself smashed norms of decorum on his way to the White House in 2016.

    While Clinton’s ‘re-education camp’ idea garnered the most pushback online, her comments to Amanpour about what she hopes will happen next in American political life were just as concerning. Sounding one part despotic and the other delusional, she said: ‘So it is like a cult and somebody has to break it… And that’s why I believe Joe Biden will defeat [Trump] and hopefully then that will be the end and the fever will break.’

    The thought of the barely alive Biden decisively defeating anything other than an ‘early bird special’ is, at this point, laughable. Right now, Clinton increasingly sounds like an older, more dour Marie Antoinette. ‘The fever will break’ is our century’s ‘let them eat cake’.

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago (edited)

      What does Hillary Clinton have to do with “right now”?

      She became irrelevant on Jan 21, 2017. Stopped reading after that first sentence.

      Republicans live in the past only.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        She was literally interviewed last week retard.

      2. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

        "She became irrelevant on Jan 21, 2017."

        LOL

        You have SARAH PALIN in your username.

        You still can't shut up about Herschel Walker nearly a year after he failed to become the second most brain-damaged Senator, far behind the giant can't-understand-spoken-language oaf from PA.

        #ZeroSelfAwareness

        1. Mother's Lament (proud Kol Nidre for Misek)   2 years ago

          "LOL
          You have SARAH PALIN in your username."

          He really doesn't even care anymore. He's just flinging poo now in the hopes something will stick.
          I think he was canned and now he's just trolling.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            The only person who falls for it is sarc.

      3. Sevo   2 years ago

        Remember that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago (edited)

      There were similar delusions by the left and a lot of NeverTrumpers that once Hillary won the election, then “healing could begin.” Along with the rather pretentious notion that “healing” can only take place if their side is in charge, it speaks to the massive neo-Puritan view of themselves as the divine elect, which explains their derangement when events don’t go along with their historic determinism.

      Thinking that Biden’s re-election will cause “the fever to break” is just as delusional and lacking in understanding of American’s political polarization as the center-right NeverTrumpers have that the prospect of Trump getting convicted will cause GOP voters to flock to Romney With A Gash rather than just another populist candidate.

      1. Longtobefree   2 years ago

        No one who read the democrat party platform could possibly think "healing" had any part to play if Hillary had won.

  41. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    Okay, Who do you Peanuts want to be your new Speaker of the House?

    Name names!

    1. Mother's Lament (proud Kol Nidre for Misek)   2 years ago

      Trump
      Jim Jordan
      MTG
      Ted Cruz
      Gaetz

      Anyone who will make you squeal, really.

      1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

        Anyone who will make you squeal, really.

        Black guy.

        1. Mother's Lament (proud Kol Nidre for Misek)   2 years ago

          Hell yeah.

          Tim Scott, Pluggo.

    2. Sevo   2 years ago

      Don't forget that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

  42. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Digging the hole deeper.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/your-position-clear-musk-slams-terrorist-supporting-blm-posts

    After celebrating the Hamas paraglider massacre at a rave in Israel which killed more than 260 people, BLM Chicago has deleted their tweet, and said that they had "sent out msgs that we aren’t proud of."

    "We stand with Palestine & the people who will do what they must to live free," the statement continues.

    However distasteful it was to celebrate the rave massacre, BLM has been consistent in their views.

    And of course, the ADL says white supremacists are celebrating the attack on Israel.

    While this idiot suggests there are "Israeli flags" flying at 'white supremacy' rallies. - see the Twitter link in the article; it must be seen to be believed.

    Seriously, the stuff in there has to be seen.

    1. Nardz   2 years ago

      The ADL is every bit, actually more, as evil as Hamas

      1. Mother's Lament (proud Kol Nidre for Misek)   2 years ago

        The ADL has done far more to hurt Jews worldwide than it has ever done to help them. It's a Democratic Party smear-shop, that's all they are and all they care about. Like the SPLC but it uses Jews as bait instead.

    2. Longtobefree   2 years ago

      "“We stand with Palestine & the people who will do what they must to live free,” the statement continues."

      And Israel is the people doing what they must to live free; kill Hamas.

  43. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    'Black Lives Matter's Chicago affiliate used Hamas paragliders—the ones who slaughtered 260-plus teens and young adults at a music festival—in their poster art expressing that they "stand with Palestine."'

    I agree--they should indeed stand with Palestine, and I will help fund their one-way tickets to Gaza.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Well, it's not Chiraq and Beirut-by-the-Lake for nothing.

    2. mtrueman   2 years ago

      "I agree–they should indeed stand with Palestine, "

      Careful what you wish for. There are plenty of Jewish target outside Israel.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        You missed part of the sentence (unless you were trying to be disingenuous).

        1. mtrueman   2 years ago

          You mean I missed the part where is declared willingness to fund those fighting Israel? No need to buy any ticket. Aren't there enough Jews right here?

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            ...and I will help fund their one-way tickets to Gaza.

            You missed what the funding was for, misconstrueman.

            1. Krokko   2 years ago

              "misconstrueman..." BAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

            2. mtrueman   2 years ago

              Careful what you wish for. There are plenty of Jewish target outside Israel.

              1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago (edited)

                Is it just me or did all the leftist posters go extra bat-shit at the same time right after the Hamas attack?

                1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                  I've always been supportive of Palestinians resisting occupation, and regaining their rights. Haven't you? I'm not the one promoting blacks killing Jews or vice versa, by the way. That would be everyone who's responding to me, including you I assume.

                  1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago (edited)

                    You’ve copy-pasted the same line about plenty of jewish targets outside Israel several times now, so yeah I think the insinuation you're making is pretty fucking clear, guy.

                    1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                      "You’ve copy-pasted the same line about plenty of jewish targets outside Israel"

                      I know that. I don't support buying tickets for Blacks to kill Jews. But if you do, you can save your money, is all.

                    2. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago (edited)

                      It’s quite obvious that he was saying he supports sending people who stand with Hamas to Gaza, so they can put up or shut up.

                      You’re deliberately misconstruing the argument to mean he wants to fund people to go kill jews.

                      This is obvious to everyone, including you.

                    3. mtrueman   2 years ago

                      "It’s quite obvious that he was saying he supports sending people who stand with Hamas to Gaza, so they can put up or shut up."

                      If he wants to pay for Blacks to go to Gaza and not kill anyone or not be killed by anyone, let him say so. He doesn't need you to mansplain.

                      "misconstruing the argument "

                      Argument? Is that what you're calling it?

                    4. Sevo   2 years ago

                      "...Argument? Is that what you’re calling it?"

                      Yes, shitbag, that's what it is, regardless of your (failed) attempt at sophistry.
                      Did your mom say you were clever? She lied.

                  2. Sevo   2 years ago

                    "I’ve always been supportive of Palestinians resisting occupation,..."

                    You have also always been good at lying.

                2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago (edited)

                  It’s not just you. Pluggo went for extra-retard. Misek went full-on Nazi. Sarc, well, he’s Sarc. Laursen disappeared (maybe he wants an ENB sandwich). And then there's misconstrueman here.

                  1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago (edited)

                    Misek has always been full-on Nazi.

                    Pluggo has always been cognitively dissonant (the nicest term I can think of for it in respect for those with born infirmities.)

                    Sarc has always been a drunk shit-poster.

                    And Mtruman has always been a crazy-maker.

                    It’s just that Hamas has made them all quintuple down on their special variety of stupid and evil.

                    Admittedly I have my silliness, but things like this give me a serious start on where the real priorities are. Israel’s citizens are the good guys and Hamas and Islamofascists and their defenders and apologists are evil. Period.

            3. Moonrocks   2 years ago

              He didn't miss anything. He's just excited at the thought of Jews outside of Israel getting murdered.

          2. Mother's Lament (proud Kol Nidre for Misek)   2 years ago

            No need to buy any ticket. Aren’t there enough Jews right here?

            Are you saying what I think you're saying?

            1. mtrueman   2 years ago

              I'm saying careful what you wish for. You want Blacks to kill Jews? And are willing to fund the effort? Or perhaps you want Jews to kill Blacks.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                You're the one saying it, misconstrueman.

                1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                  Short memory?

                  "I agree–they should indeed stand with Palestine, and I will help fund their one-way tickets to Gaza."

                  That's a quote from Earth-based Human skeptic, who's remained silent since I called him out for his shameful comment. Maybe he's decided to be careful, after all.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    He said he'd help fund their one-way ticket to Gaza, dip. Your reading comprehension doesn't seem up to snuff.

                    1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                      Short memory? I know what he said. I just quoted.

                    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      By only quoting part of the sentence, the thought, you were turning it into something it wasn't, misconstrueman.

                    3. mtrueman   2 years ago

                      "By only quoting part of the sentence,"

                      I was editing. Cutting away the dross leaving only the meaning and its subtle implications. If you don't like it, you're welcome to edit my comments in similar ways.

                    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

                      I was editing. Cutting away the dross leaving only the meaning and its subtle implications.

                      What exactly was shameful about it?

                  2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

                    My apologies if you are on the spectrum, and far enough to not get even moderately sarcastic statements.

                    On the other hand, if you are pretending to be stupid, then fuck off.

                    1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                      "On the other hand, if you are pretending to be stupid, then fuck off."

                      I'm not pretending to be stupid. I'm pretending to be moderately sarcastic. Like you.

              2. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

                "Or perhaps you want Jews to kill Blacks."

                If they're standing with Hamas, why wouldn't the Israeli's kill them?

                1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                  "why wouldn’t the Israeli’s kill them?"

                  Is that what you want? Personally I don't want Israelis killing blacks.

                  1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

                    Yeah you left out the first part, which qualified the second part.

                    This is why people are (accurately) calling you misconstrueman.

                    1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                      Don't know what you're talking about. But congrats on being accurate, anyway.

                    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

                      Don’t know what you’re talking about.

                      Commies typically play stupid when their dialectic gets exposed.

                  2. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

                    And yeah, we know you don't want Israel killing its enemies. Trust me, that is very clear.

                    1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                      "And yeah, we know you don’t want Israel killing its enemies. "

                      I think that puts some distance between me and Hamas, then, wouldn't it? The attack was bound to provoke a response from Israel, killing Palestinians, which was part of the Hamas plan all along. And the IDF bombs away, exactly as they always do, exactly as Hamas wants. The world's toughest, bestest military!

                    2. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

                      You want them to roll over and take it.

                    3. mtrueman   2 years ago

                      "You want them to roll over and take it."

                      How about doing something that works? This mowing the grass business doesn't seem to be doing the trick. Every year Gaza gets more populous. Half the people are children. Relying on an over praised, under performing military and intelligence apparatus doesn't seem to be doing them much good. You think otherwise I suppose.

                  3. Sevo   2 years ago

                    "...Personally I don’t want Israelis killing blacks..."

                    Hey, look over there! assholic trueman.

      2. VinniUSMC   2 years ago

        mNaziman, supports killing Jews. Fucking scumbag.

  44. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    "But there's also a question of whether a junior hire's thoughts on Hamas have any bearing on their ability to do their job well; we ostensibly work with plenty of people who believe wrong or immoral things but have the good sense to keep them quiet in a professional environment."

    Uh, no. Just because some people are good at camp management does not mean we want to hire Nazis for our vacation resort, as long as they don't wear swastikas at work.

    1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

      I wonder how that is consistent with laws against religious discrimination.

    2. Minadin   2 years ago

      "we ostensibly work with plenty of people who believe wrong or immoral things but have the good sense to keep them quiet in a professional environment."

      I would say that publicly publishing such a statement in an official Student Bar Association newsletter:
      1) Is a 'professional environment'. Or as close as one will get to one in college.
      2) Shows very poor judgment and arguably character.

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      It might certainly have a bearing for someone working for a law firm that's based in New York City.

    4. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      Very apt way to put it...although I now have visuals of Yogi and Boo-Boo as taxidermed and mounted on the <Übersturmfuhrer Park Ranger's wall.

  45. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    What did you Peanuts do to Jeff and Mike L?

    Do you really want H&R go full Trump circle jerk?

    1. damikesc   2 years ago

      They got a hard-on for ENB.

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        one of them was enb. mho.

    2. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

      Jeff as in chemjeff?

      The guy who went on a months-long jihad defending CRT in public schools?

      The guy who excitedly shared this essay about how only DARK BRANDON can save us from FASCISM?

      I don't know. Maybe he felt redundant since you already fill the niche of "garden variety Democrat who pretends to be a libertarian."

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Yep, Jeff as in chemjeff retarded collectivist.

    3. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      You mean it hasn't?

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

        Youre desperate to go back to praising dems huh. Or is it still supporting the neocons of 10 years ago?

        1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          Pure projection. I don't praise any politicians, no matter which tribe they belong to.

          You on the other hand will defend your tribe when you know they're wrong, and attack the other tribe when you know they're right, because that's what tribalists do.

    4. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago (edited)

      “What did you Peanuts do to Jeff and Mike L?”

      Don’t worry SPB, you still have Misek, trueman, and sarcasmic.

    5. Sevo   2 years ago

      Everyone here knows that turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
      turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides

    6. Sevo   2 years ago (edited)
  46. mad.casual   2 years ago

    These groups are grafting their understanding of domestic race relations and colonizer/colonized narratives onto Israel and Palestine, which simply does not work.

    No they aren't. They're projecting their racial grievance *grifting* narratives onto Israel and Palestine, which does work.

    They know Israel doesn't treat Palestinians the same way even the worst white slave owners treated slaves. This is just how the grift is expanded and perpetuated.

  47. mtrueman   2 years ago

    "There are no easy answers here, but it is actually quite easy to avoid using barbaric killers as your graphic design motif."

    People find inspiration in the courage, resolve and ingenuity of the Palestinians. Leftists have been using the image of Ernesto 'Che' Guevara for decades for similar reasons. This sudden faux outrage and tsk tsking is silly.

    1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

      They are no different than Brian Mitchell.

      1. mtrueman   2 years ago

        Tsk tsk.

    2. damikesc   2 years ago

      It's not sudden. Plenty have commented on the Left's fondness for the murderer Che. Now they support the murderous Hamas members.

      Great company you keep.

      1. mtrueman   2 years ago

        "Plenty have commented on the Left’s fondness for the murderer Che. "

        Not enough for my tastes. This thread needs more red baiting to compliment the islamophobia.

        " Now they support the murderous Hamas members."

        Now you support Biden. The world turns.

        1. VinniUSMC   2 years ago

          mBSman/mNaziman, you're a real piece of shit. Islamophobia? Whatever. If it was, it's still better than you anti-Semetic Nazi scum. Why do you hate Jews so much?

          1. mtrueman   2 years ago

            "anti-Semetic"

            I hate people who can't spell, Jews an Gentiles alike, if that makes you feel better.

        2. damikesc   2 years ago

          "Islamaphobe"? Nice of you to think that Muslims will support terrorists. Might want to check out a mirror, son.

          Hamas and Hezbollah are NOT Islam. Plenty of Muslims do not agree with them.

          You seem unaware of that.

          But, yes, I am the one who does not respect Muslims...

          1. mtrueman   2 years ago

            Pity you can't say the same about Ernesto 'Che' Guevara.

  48. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

    I tend to oppose cancel culture wherever it strikes (but support the rights of private employers to decide who they want to hire and fire), so my rough take is that law firms should probably vet people more aggressively during the hiring process if they’re sensitive to campus-activist drivel.

    Liz,

    Quit equivocating irrationally in favor of irrational idiocy. Vet people more aggressively, how? Ask them if Hamas killed 1,000 civilians would they Tweet support for Palestine or not?

    Firing, or refusing to go on with hiring someone for something they did in real time isn’t Cancel Culture, it’s straight rational human behavior. Cancel Culture is/was a Twitter mob taking things out of context, frequently years later, and trying to evict or fire people ex parte. Firing or refusing to hire a candidate because they went out and advocated on behalf of violence in rather immediate and direct response is not a violation of free speech nor a cancel culture-esque violation of conscious action, insisting that employers hire people after they did such is distinctly anti-Free Association in a distinctly anti-libertarian context.

    You may see the need to equivocate here, but Reason’s continued selective equivocation between Free Speech, Private Companies, Public Servants, and Free Association especially in the face of overt and politically-motivated calls for violence is just slowly, consistently chipping away at Free Speech, Private Ownership, Public Servants, *and* Free Association in a Round-Robin fashion.

    It’s OK for someone to get fired for saying “I stand with Palestine.” right after Palestine killed 1,000 people. Ex parte people calling for their firing 10 yrs. down the road, relatively out of the blue *is* irrational and a little suspect. But people losing their jobs in the moment, especially just a few handfuls, isn't really a threat to democracy, especially if people get shot for trespassing on public property and we convict and sentence hundreds of their cohorts for putting their feet up in a, frequently, thoroughly non-violent fashion.

  49. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>instead, these public statements from college students, DSA groups, and BLM come together to form a tour d'horizon of where the far left is going

    going? lol the regular left has hated Israel my whole life where ya been?

  50. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>law firms should probably vet people more aggressively during the hiring process if they're sensitive to campus-activist drivel.

    "Israel bears full responsibility" for headless babies from the NYU Law SBA president might have made heads think are we hiring a rational person to carry the Winston & Strawn banner?

  51. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>Wearing a scarlet letter—as Rep. Nancy Mace (R–S.C.) did ... doesn't really make sense.

    not really ... maybe a little ... but she pulled it off, Jelly.

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      1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

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        1. Dillinger   2 years ago

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          so, Mia Khalifha?

  52. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>the number of deaths in Israel and Gaza rose

    are you counting the dogs? and what about the actual dogs? I saw at least one of those get shot.

    1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      Islamic societies, for whatever reason, do tend to put down dogs, so that is a pertinent question for dog-lovers.

  53. Longtobefree   2 years ago

    "But there's also a question of whether a junior hire's thoughts on Hamas have any bearing on their ability to do their job well . . . "

    They show a thought process that pretty well indicates how much grief they will bring to your client base.

  54. NOYB2   2 years ago (edited)

    But there’s also a question of whether a junior hire’s thoughts on Hamas have any bearing on their ability to do their job well;

    Yes, I think whether someone is a racist, anti-Semite, and a radical totalitarian leftist does have a bearing on whether they can be a lawyer in the US.

    1. Marshal   2 years ago

      Recall that was the same argument defending letting radical leftists teach English and sociology in universities when the left first began its march through our institutions in the 70s. Now we have students openly supporting mass murder.

      Now we get Reasoners Sgt Shultzing as if it’s some great fucking mystery how this happened.

  55. NOYB2   2 years ago

    Rising death toll: Overnight, the number of deaths in Israel and Gaza rose to roughly 2,200, following Hamas' surprise attack on southern Israel this past weekend that resulted in the massacre of civilians.

    I'm sure open borders, free weed, and tariff-free import of Chinese goods would have prevented this. /sarc

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

      And butt sex. Don't forget butt sex.

      1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

        They already have plenty of butt sex.

    2. Eeyore   2 years ago

      I didn't know free weed was on the table.

  56. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>What does Hillary Clinton have to do with “right now”?

    SPB thinks he won't be first at the reeducating.

  57. Sevo   2 years ago

    "...Several Germans, French, Argentines, and Americans have been taken hostage but exact numbers are hard to come by..."

    Socialists, national or otherwise, cheer.

  58. MWAocdoc   2 years ago

    "authorities there say a "humanitarian crisis" is imminent"

    If only there might have been something the Gaza authorities and innocent civilians could have done to prevent this imminent humanitarian crisis like - I dunno - maybe prevent Hamas from invading Israel and firing thousands of missiles at Israel killing hundreds of innocent civilians. Oh, wait ...

    1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      They elected them. They supported them. They continued to support them while they were constantly firing rockets at innocent people.

      Then after Hamas committed an even worse terrorist attack, they were given the opportunity to leave and told to do so.

      Burn the whole damn thing. The lesson to be learned from this is letting this cancer grow right in your backyard WILL result in atrocities. Time to cut it off.

      1. mtrueman   2 years ago

        "They elected them"

        You elected Biden. There's a special special place in Gaza reserved for you.

        1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

          I would have already left Gaza, had I been living in a state run by open terrorists hell bent on beheading, raping, and annihilating their enemies, and calling for their extermination from this world.

          Turns out living in a terrorist state (and electing terrorists) has consequences.

          1. mtrueman   2 years ago

            "Turns out living in a terrorist state (and electing terrorists) has consequences."

            Living next door to a terror state also has consequences. No matter who gets elected.

            1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

              Oh, sounds like you have come around to my side then. Congrats.

              Living next door to a terror state got them fucked up really bad. Time to do something about that terror state.

              1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                Which one?

                1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

                  The one beheading children.

                  Simp harder for evil. Its a really good look. You get one of those BLM paraglider "we stand with palastine" shirts yet?

                  1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                    Why not both? They are both involved and their conflict could lead to much bigger things that nobody, including children with heads, is going to like.

                    Relying on the IDF's mowing the grass every year or so isn't solving the issue. If you really care about the lives of children, you'd be looking around for alternatives. The population of Gaza grows every year, regardless of the lawn mowing. Hamas is desperate and will resort to desperate measures, desperate and evil. For a nuclear power like Israel to let the desperate men of Hamas to seize the initiative and play the IDF for fools, is inexcusable.

                    1. Truthfulness   2 years ago

                      Keep shilling for Hamas, mtrueman. See where that takes you.

                    2. mtrueman   2 years ago

                      Keep dancing to the Hamas tune, you dancing fool, you.

  59. mtrueman   2 years ago

    "If only there might have been something the Gaza authorities and innocent civilians could have done to prevent this imminent humanitarian crisis like – I dunno – maybe prevent Hamas from invading Israel "

    Hamas got the guns, lots of them. Gaza authorities and innocent civilians don't got guns. That's why Hamas is Hamas and innocent civilians are innocent.

  60. Use the Schwartz   2 years ago

    “But there’s also a question of whether a junior hire’s thoughts on Hamas have any bearing on their ability to do their job well..."

    Is there? I've made kind of a casual mental list of questions about the anonymous signatories, and the above doesn't seem to be on my list.

  61. Marshal   2 years ago

    “them," reports Vice's Anna Merlan.“

    I guess Vice is scraping the bottom of the barrel now. Was Sabrina Rubin Erdely herself not available?

  62. One-Punch_Man   2 years ago

    Whatever happened to the other idiots - Tony, Rev Arthur? Mom finally shut down the internet?

    1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      I've been wondering that myself...Though make no mistake, I enjoy the absence.
      🙂
      😉

  63. One-Punch_Man   2 years ago

    The left : "word pronouns are violence" "words are violence" " we need safe spaces because opposite views are violence"

    Pieces of crap beheading babies - that is fine. Those babies had it coming. It's all their fault for being born Jewish and in Israel.

    How did the US go off the cliff so fast?

    1. mtrueman   2 years ago

      Their parents decided that raising them within a stone's throw of a camp of over 2 million desperate cut throats was a good idea. And trust a fence and an army who learned of the attack through Twitter to protect them.

      1. Minadin   2 years ago

        So, instead of refuting his point, you went the other way and proved it instead?

        Bold move, Cotton.

        1. mtrueman   2 years ago (edited)

          “you went the other way and proved it instead?”

          It doesn’t prove anything. Let’s not forget the Gazans raise children within easy range of and are frequent targets of the IDF, the toughest, bravest and bestest military on the planet.

          1. Minadin   2 years ago

            It's cool, we all saw you blame the parents and the babies instead of the violent murderers.

            1. mtrueman   2 years ago

              "we all saw you blame the parents "

              I'm not blaming the parents. I question the wisdom of raising children so close to millions of desperate cut throats with nothing but a fence to hold them back.

          2. Minadin   2 years ago

            I mean, I just hate it when the IDF leaps across the border, unannounced and unprovoked, murders a bunch of innocents, and then parades their bodies around like they just came back from safari.

            Don't you?

            1. mtrueman   2 years ago

              War used to be so much fun until Hamas went and spoiled it for everyone.

              1. Minadin   2 years ago

                No, don't back down now. I was really appreciating the honesty behind your 'Well, those Israeli toddlers shouldn't have worn that dress' approach.

                1. mtrueman   2 years ago (edited)

                  “‘Well, those Israeli toddlers shouldn’t have worn that dress”

                  It wasn’t me who wrote that ‘those babies had it coming.’ It was one-punch man. Check if you don’t believe me. My comment was taking the parents to task for putting their children in such easy reach of millions of desperate cut throats. A fence, Minadin, a fence. That’s evidently what these parents thought would afford adequate protection to their loved ones from the monsters just a stone’s throw away.

                  1. Minadin   2 years ago

                    He was being facetious to illustrate a point. You were the one who decided to take it to 'well, actually . . . '

                    1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                      "He was being facetious to illustrate a point. "

                      I'll take your word for it. I too was being facetious to make a point.

                    2. Truthfulness   2 years ago

                      @mtrueman

                      Whatever that point was, it sure doesn't hold ground unlike One-Punch_man's.

                    3. mtrueman   2 years ago

                      OK. I'll try harder next time. As one punch man says, Those babies had it coming. Happy now?

  64. Eeyore   2 years ago

    Has Israel thought seriously about running the public schools in Palestinian territories and making them mandatory. Then they could indoctrinate all of the next generation properly. You know? Like in America.

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