America's Immigrant Brain Drain
International students want to stay in the U.S. after graduation. Most of them can't.

The United States boasts more international students, immigrant inventors, and foreign-born Nobel laureates than any other country. But thanks to our dysfunctional immigration system, the U.S. is slowly surrendering that advantage to other countries.
In June, The Hechinger Report outlined how foreign governments are welcoming U.S.-trained international students. The United Kingdom offers a "high potential individual" visa, which authorizes a two-year stay and is available to "new graduates of 40 universities….21 of them in the United States." Recruiters from Australia are "attending job fairs and visiting university campuses" in the United States. From 2017 to 2021, according to the Niskanen Center, a Washington-based think tank, Canada managed to attract almost 40,000 foreign-born graduates of American universities.
Most international students want to stay in the U.S. after graduating, but very few are able to do so. The U.S. does not have a dedicated postgraduate work visa. Canada and Australia, meanwhile, have streamlined the steps from graduation to employment to permanent residency. Graduates in the U.S. can complete Optional Practical Training, but it does not lead to permanent residency and lasts a maximum of three years.
Worryingly, fewer international students are choosing to study in the U.S. in the first place, in part due to COVID-related border closures and the Trump administration's hostility toward international students. Although international student enrollment is creeping back toward pre-pandemic levels, the number of Chinese students, who make up the biggest share of foreign students in the U.S., has declined.
Many foreigners who graduate from American universities try their luck with H-1B visas, which are reserved for skilled workers. But there are problems with this pathway, both in design and in practice. Demand for H-1Bs far outpaces supply, and the annual cap of 85,000 visas has not changed in more than 15 years. Three-quarters of America's H-1B workers are Indian. But thanks to caps on the number of green cards a given country's nationals can receive each year, there is a massive backlog of workers waiting for permanent residency. It can take decades for Indians to achieve that status.
Canada recognizes that this work force is both valuable and frustrated with the U.S. system. In June, the Canadian government announced a "Tech Talent Strategy" that, among other things, will create a pathway for "H-1B specialty occupation visa holders in the US to apply for a Canadian work permit." It will also offer work and study permits to family members.
It is not just foreign workers who suffer under the U.S. immigration system. American employers are increasingly unwilling to navigate such complex processes to hire foreigners, depriving them of employees who might otherwise be perfect fits. Envoy Global, an immigration services provider, reported in March that 82 percent of the employers it surveyed "had to let go of foreign employees in the past year due to difficulties securing or extending an employment-based visa in the U.S." A similar share transferred foreign workers to an office abroad for similar reasons. And a staggering 93 percent of the businesses that Envoy surveyed said they were considering nearshoring or offshoring.
Until the U.S. gets out of its own way, talented foreigners will look for more welcoming pastures. Our loss will be other countries' gain.
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How many of the recruited students are originally from those countries (or their neighbors)? How many stay in the country long-term?
I travel a bit for work, and while it is nice to visit places like Spain or Australia or New Zealand, I very much prefer the US as a place to live.
Reminds me of this anecdote, ~1988
We were assigned a group project for our senior engineering design project. It was myself, the class hippie, and a Chinese national. 3 weeks in, the Chinese guy tells us that he is getting deported. He apparently caught his faculty advisor in a compromising position and he got his visa cancelled. So group becomes 2 of us, and, of course, I end up doing 90% of the work in order to get the grade
Sounds like they deported the wrong guy.
Our loss will be other countries' gain.
Oh, no!! Where will our next generation of victimology, equity, ESG, and CRT experts come from? There are only so many purple-haired lesbian asexuals with multiple face tattoos/piercings to go around.
I'd be real cautious of hiring any recent graduates of American universities, especially the elite universities.
I don't know. I have not yet met a 1st generation immigrant that buys into the woke crap; probably something to do with the mindset that comes with the ambition to immigrate to take advantage of the opportunities in the US. In fact I've known several Africans that refuse to take advantage of affirmative action/diversity hires intended for black Americans.
Yea, they're importing millions of foreign nationals because those people totes don't support the regime's pogroms.
Great call.
Real big brained eunuch we got here!
Real big brained eunuch we got here!
At least I understood the point of the article is exactly the opposite of "importing millions of foreign nationals."
The point of the article is to promote the invasion of the US by foreign nationals in service to globalist technocratic government, you cancerous tumor.
Your vicious self righteous online rhetoric only serves to discredit your arguments. You serve the state way more effectively than Fiona.
I bet you're meek like a mouse in person though.
You'll tell yourself whatever you need to in order to believe your evil is righteousness, but in reality you're a fucking parasite that actively harms those around you.
Cease being.
you do tend to respond at 11 you know...
dialing it down a bit wouldnt kill you ... and might make your arguments more palatable - that is, if your intent is to persuade.
We all get bilious from the constant affronts to common sense and sound policy here but venting a spleen every time has to be exhausting!
Read DOJ vs Facebook 2020, 2600+ cases of discrimination against better qualified local STEM/IT applicants. Better qualified than foreign workers at Facebook in similar jobs (by Facebook's own admission to Federal Investigators). There is nothing quite as satisfying to globalists than indentured/enslaved workers, this indictment proves this. All the information in it came directly from Facebook's own HR personnel, under threat of a Federal Obstruction of Justice charge, should they lie. This is the only document you or anyone can actually trust.
Indeed. The reason that H1-B’s are sometimes sought over American workers is because of work restrictions that make their residency tied to their employment status. It is this policy that makes them willing to work cheaper and put up with harsher conditions than American workers that have more liberty to change jobs. Remove these rules and the playing field would be leveled. Americans would be preferred since the hiring process is easier for local applicants. Bonus: one less place for DOJ meddling in private business hiring practices.
So which is it, is the regime "importing millions of foreign nationals," or is Reason "promot[ing] the invasion of the US by foreign nationals in service to globalist technocratic government" in opposition to the regime's current policies?
There is literally a lawsuit against space x for not hiring asylum employees or foreign born refugees. Space x is following Export Import laws with the decision. The refugees are forcing the suit.
I'm specifically addressing the brain drain issue of foreigners that immigrate to get educated and work here, not asylum seekers and refugees, although they are not necessarily mutually exclusive groups.
Educational visas are non-immigrant visas. You only get them if you do not intend to immigrate.
If you get an education visa with the intent to immigrate, you have committed immigration fraud.
Uh huh. That's the problem.
It's not a problem at all. Students can change their mind, and if they are any good, they can get an H-1B. And eventually they can become immigrants.
I'm simply correcting your erroneous statement: people do not "immigrate to get educated and work".
His conception of immigration sounds, at best, like it came right out of the 19th Century. Depending on the country of origin, the state narrative that they are the victims of American capitalistic oppression is the narrative running for 50+ yrs.
Silly cherry-picked stereotypes aside, if they really were these unbridled engines of creativity and productivity, keeping even only 1, or 5, or 10% of them would still pay dividends and their homelands or other parts uknown would be shining cities on the hill. Rather than, you know, book-burning, account-freezing, rioting hubs of social unrest like Europe and Canada. Unless, of course, neither dirt nor blood is magic and even immigrant's kids, raised in the failing public school system, turned out to be exactly like Ocasio-Cortez, Omar, Pressley, Tlaib, Tometi.
Imagine being such a pro-immigrant racist that you have to ignore Pancho Villa, the FARC, the Sandinistas, Daniel Ortega, the Zapatistas, etc., etc., etc. to cling to your "They're *all* just here to quietly hold down jobs and support freedom/capitalism." idiocy.
Translation: A 3 paragraph word-salad essay to capture absolutely nothing I said.
Imagine working with many foreign nationals and find them to mostly be normal people just looking to support their family while acknowledging not everyone will be perfect.
Imagine working with many foreign nationals and find them to mostly be normal people just looking to support their family while acknowledging not everyone will be perfect.
RIght. It's easy to applaud SS Soldiers on Canadian soil if you pretend you don't have any clue about where they came from or what they believe in.
Does your quaint "They're just hard workers who've come here to prosper." only apply to Foreign Nationals on US soil or do US Nationals on Foreign soil get the same unabashedly favorable view from you too?
You people are, by your own precepts, checkers morons trying to play a game of chess.
Imagine being such a pro-immigrant racist
It’s easy to applaud SS Soldiers
Dude! Get a grip! You've called me racist and invoked Godwin's law. I see no reason to continue this discussion with you.
Plenty of "mostly normal people just looking to support their family" are also racists, bigots, and socialists. And if the first generation immigrants aren't, their children will be fully indoctrinated into the belief system that they are victims of "white supremacy".
Leftists plan for the long term, and flooding the country with non-white people allows them to pursue their divisive, racist policies.
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Plenty of “mostly normal people just looking to support their family” are also racists, bigots, and socialists
Sure, native born Americans or immigrants.
Show me evidence that the children of immigrants are any more likely to racist bigots than native born Americans to justify your desire to keep out
Leftists plan for the long term, and flooding the country with non-white people allows them to pursue their divisive, racist policies.
Even if it's true this will backfire. The huge influx of Latinos now will be the conservative voters of the next generation.
I didn't state any desire to keep anybody out. You made a statement that these were “mostly normal people just looking to support their family”, and I simply pointed out that whatever point you were trying to make, you failed to make. So, try again.
Past voting data says otherwise, and there is no reason to expect that. After all, blacks have voted for racist Democrats since the 1930s despite being socially conservative and rejecting wokeness.
I didn’t state any desire to keep anybody out.
OK then we agree skilled/educated immigrants should be allowed to stay and work here.
Either you are illiterate, in which case you should have someone explain the meaning of my statement to you, or you are being deliberately obtuse, in which case, f*ck off.
Either you are illiterate, in which case you should have someone explain the meaning of my statement to you, or you are being deliberately obtuse, in which case, f*ck off.
I was just drawing attention to your pedantic nitpicking style of argument. Seriously, what was the point of saying I never said...then getting your panties all wadded when I call you on it?
Past voting data says otherwise, and there is no reason to expect that
There are plenty of reasons. They tend to be more religious, and less wealthy than average Americans and thus and poorly represented by democrats that are increasingly the party of the wealthy college educated. Latinos will see the self serving destructive policies of Democrats as easily as whites.
Then there's the plethora of articles like this:
"Once the backbone of the Democratic base, working-class white voters have been migrating toward the Republican Party since the 1960s, largely out of alienation from the Democrats’ liberal stands on cultural and racial issues...Now a chorus of centrist and right-leaning political analysts are claiming that the same shift has begun among working-class nonwhite voters, especially Latinos."
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2022/07/working-class-latino-voters-political-alignment/670593/
> Silly cherry-picked stereotypes aside, if they really were these unbridled engines of creativity and productivity, keeping even only 1, or 5, or 10% of them would still pay dividends and their homelands or other parts unknown would be shining cities on the hill.
There is something called network effects that are hard to replicate. For example everyone knows Elon Musk is a fantastic entrepreneur but do you really think SpaceX or Tesla was possible in South Africa ?
The various other skills, processes, rule of law etc. that was needed to make Musk successful were present only in USA. That is USA's strength.
Interestingly this is also true for many other things including a Taco stand, Nail saloon and Motel 6. One has to only visit Germany or UK to realize how dynamic US society is and how it is shooting itself by harming immigrants.
I have met lots of 1st generation immigrants who believe themselves to be victims of white oppression in the US, while simultaneously being ambitious and personally conservative. In fact, among 1st generation immigrants, that's probably the norm. They vote reliably Democrat because they have swallowed the lie that Republicans are racist.
We've been exposed to very different groups of immigrants.
I question whether it's even possible to be ambitious and personally conservative and still believe you are a victim of white oppression. Every self proclaimed victim I've seen is looking for hand outs and favors.
They are looking for handouts and favors not from the government, but HR departments, and they are getting them.
Furthermore, "personally conservative" doesn't translate into "voting for conservative politicians".
That raises an interesting question: Are there ANY foreign students in American Universities pursuing a major in any of the victim studies areas (Women's studies, African, Fat, Queer, etc)? From my experience, except for the middle eastern students, they are all a bunch of four-eyed egg heads. The middle eastern guys are mostly there just soaking up the free money from Saudi, along with planning jihad on the great Satan.
Surely, China is suffering a dearth of experts in these areas! Joe Biden, with his VERY close ties to China should address this shortfall by setting up a Chinese racism/gender/trans/CRT center at Penn. No joke.
That raises an interesting question: Are there ANY foreign students in American Universities pursuing a major in any of the victim studies areas
Surely there must be some, probably mostly Europeans.
https://www.careeraddict.com/useless-degrees
Fine arts, performing arts and theatre etc are very competitive and jobs are hard to find. Others of these may be useful only in combination with grad degrees or as dual majors. Biology and computer science were a surprise to me, but it sounds like those are too general and specialization is key.
Gender/women's studies generally has too small a percentage of students in the programs to be mentioned in the articles I looked at. Millions of women with women's studies degrees? That's a myth. The most popular undergrad degree is Business and the next group of popular categories are health professions like nursing.
During the assault on statues rioting there was an Asian lesbian that led the charge. There are a couple of Korean women journalists that are very anti white, I think they both worked for the NYT and then there are the Indian politicians that are far left Marxists.
Imagine the unbridled stupidity of presuming "There are no foreign students in Women's Studies, ESG, African, Fat, Queer, etc."
It's the same magic dirt bullshit they claim to be railing against. Sen. Robert Menendez, despite openly claiming he hid the money out of cultural practice doesn't count against immigrants because he was born here. Same for Ocasio-Cortez, Omar, Pressley, Tlaib, Tometi, etc., etc.
The same stupid checkers-as-chess: "It doesn't cost us anything for them to put their foot down on the other side of the border, so what's the problem? Borders are just an imaginary social construct man!"
Even if they 100% are dyed-in-the-wool anti-socialists, which is retarded beyond belief, if they all have 3 kids who all turn out to be SJWs raised on the dote, we're in the same fucking place as before we entertained Quicktown Brix and Fetterman's Hump's retarded drivel.
Imagine the unbridled stupidity of presuming “There are no foreign students in Women’s Studies, ESG, African, Fat, Queer, etc.”
Yes, imagine that strawman argument, then go to town with it.
if they all have 3 kids who all turn out to be SJWs raised on the dote, we’re in the same fucking place as before we entertained Quicktown Brix and Fetterman’s Hump’s retarded drivel.
Yeah, we're in the same place, not worse off if this scenario you've crafted de novo with no supporting evidence comes true.
Yes, imagine that strawman argument, then go to town with it.
Well, at least we agree that you weren’t saying a lot with your “They just want to come here and work to support their family.” bullshit. That it’s no more profound, true, or less wrongheaded and racist than “The people from those shitholes are lazy and don’t shower.” “You have not yet met a 1st generation immigrant who…”? Have you met anyone else of color besides your one black friend too?
You guys need to get your retarded story straight. If they’re refugees and asylum seekers rather than political pawns, here and in Europe, then they aren’t just coming here to make enough money to support their families and, even if they are, that doesn’t resolve the moral hazard of feeding more bodies into the leviathan and giving them the ability to deprive natives of the debts owed by the government on moneys taken unequally.
Without that, your “They just want jobs.” hippie dippy bullshit is little different than “Borders are just social construct, a figment of imagination, man.” zero-depth bumper-sticker social policy.
Yeah, we’re in the same place, not worse off if this scenario you’ve crafted de novo with no supporting evidence comes true.
Like we can’t all see the 100% lilly white LAUSD striking for the second time in four years for “Just enough money to support their fam…” oh, no, because public sector Union wages in California aren’t high enough and education is a human right. But it’s OK because even though it’s mostly brown people protesting, they were born here so it doesn’t count as contributing to the clusterfuck… somehow.
I'm a bit surprised to get liberal argument tactics (accusations of racism...how many people of color...one black friend) from an obviously conservative commenter. They're not worth addressing.
If they’re refugees and asylum seekers ...they aren’t just coming here to make enough money to support their families and... giving them the ability to deprive natives of the debts owed by the government on moneys taken unequally.
I won't hold you accountable for knowing my entire argument, but I have stated above that I'm arguing here that educated and skilled immigrants should be allowed to stay and work. That they contribute more than they take.
As for refugees and open borders, I think that is the correct libertarian position, but acknowledge that it is incompatible with our current welfare state. If we removed welfare and work restrictions along with unrestrained immigration, we'd restore the conditions that allowed the US to become the most powerful nation and biggest economy in history even if it would be somewhat more pigmented.
The ME guys are here for the slutty blondes.
While earning a degree I reroofed mansions. My employment applications included a drawing of an equilateral triangle, each side =2, and asked its height. Another was a paralellogram; find the area given the base and height. Of some 20 applicants from 20 to 40 only one could solve 8th grade geometry problems relevant to getting paid per area of construction work completed. These are what Fiona wants to import more of.
"The United States boasts more" ... *immigration* ... "than any other country."
There FTFY.
And maybe if Democrats didn't void immigration policy and allow massive unfiltered invasion the people would have more of an appetite for positive immigration.
But Reason has yet to demonstrate any difference between the two.
We're being literally invaded.
Fiona is your enemy.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-keep-paying-salaries-tens-thousands-ukrainians-during-government-shutdown
Ukraine has some real deep dirt on our political class.
Why would you think that?
Seriously.
How fucking blue-pilled do you need to be to think this shit requires blackmail?
They aren't being blackmailed, they're paying employees and attacking Americans.
American employers are increasingly unwilling to navigate such complex processes to hire foreigners, depriving them of employees who might otherwise be perfect fits.
I think you left out a part. I think it's "....perfect fits who will work for a significant discount to their comparably qualified American peers."
Now, maybe it's the case that Americans should favor the interests of the foreigners and employers over those of the American workers. But, if you want that, then argue for that. But, honestly, I'm finding myself increasingly unsympathetic to that argument. I notice that the authors here are largely indifferent to ideas like IP reform, removing aid to higher education, or ending the central banking cartel, libertarian reforms that might undermine the interests of affluent cosmopolitans. Rather, they insist that true justice consists only of commoditizing the middle class.
https://twitter.com/Oilfield_Rando/status/1706653459552800890?t=VK0djwbHL7QXkD9vbJDgAg&s=19
You will be forced to pay for the invasion of your country, you will be forced to endure the destruction of your communities, and you will be arrested if you object. Realize where we are.
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And presumably you're here to provide us an example of domestic brain drain as well.
https://twitter.com/Babygravy9/status/1706647277698158794?t=ARBvgGLkgLqu5vxxSZdV0Q&s=19
It's now beyond a shadow of a doubt that every possible means is being used to deliberately flood the US with migrants. For all intents and purposes the US doesn't have any borders at all.
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"Future Democrat voters."
So brain drain applies to the country of arrival, but not to the country of origin? How much more racist can open border supporters be?
I think their brains drained.
Yes. For example Elon Musk in South Africa could have best owned a Ford Dealership or perhaps a large Ranch. Only in USA he can do SpaceX.
Do Americans really think all their success and dynamism is purely luck ?
https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1706547926464381388?t=4lNkKTx5WRGPXTFOc2aIdw&s=19
It’s not a border crisis, it’s a plot.
It’s not immigration, it’s an invasion.
It isn’t spontaneous, it’s coordinated.
Western civilization will be gone within a generation. Our grandkids will hate us.
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Uh, sure. Are we talking about the ultra-genius foreign students ready to lead the next technical breakthroughs, found the next successful enterprise, or even create the next inspirational artworks, or are we talking about the rich spoiled kids of foreign despots who enjoy living like playboys with blonde American girlfriends and working plumbing?
My experience has been that, at least in advanced science/technical fields, most of ones who want to stay, and who we'd want to stay, get to stay.
About a dozen foreign students did their MS thesis with me, and each and every one of them is still here. Fiona left out some details:
1. After getting a degree, graduates can apply for one-year practical training (OPT), basically a one-year work permit. It's more or less automatic, never heard of one getting turned down.
2. The numerical H1B quotas aren't absolute: for example, academic institutions hiring PhDs aren't subject to the quota.
3. Waivers can also be sought for highly specialized staff. For example, someone with a graduate degree and unique experience doing a particular job at the company. How did the employee get that unique experience? During that OPT mentioned above.
4. If they have wealthy relatives, there are waivers for people starting up a business.
5. And finally, they can marry. Could be an American, or could be someone who got to stay via one of the methods above.
IMO it's all good.
See if the dems would go for a law adding one H-1B visa to the cap for every ten illegals permanently deported.
Get rid of all illegals, get a million legals. Win - win.
See also Andrew Heaton Fixes the Student Debt Crisis, a Reason video worth rerunning.
The OPT visa gives a 15% tax break to hire a foreign student worker. We should not be "okay" with that, unless it is extended to all students and the unemployed (as an apprenticeship program). This tax break creates an early incentive to prefer foreign workers over locals, without regard to skill. The H-1b lottery is also insane. H-1b visas should have a high dollar salary cap (110k or more with COLA) and be allocated based upon offered salary (not by lotto drawing). The Green Card system can be gamed, to prevent locals from applying to Green Card jobs. Further, a Green Card applicant can fail the Green Card process an infinite number of times. Green Card jobs ads should be required to be on every free job board. And if you fail the application 2x, your out and the local gets in (whatever their status may be greed card holder or citizen). Companies discriminate massively against better qualified locals, for reasons having to do with what the hiring manager requires (for example sand-bagging with trusted fellow countrymen, or kick backs and favors). We know this from DOJ vs Facebook 2020, please read it, at the USDOJ right now, if you want the truth obtained directly from Facebook's own HR personnel, under threat of a Federal Obstruction of Justice charge, should they lie to Federal Investigators.
"H-1B visas, which are reserved for skilled workers"
I never met an H-1B holder who was anything but a grunt level COBOL programmer.
(but they did work cheap)
My boss, my boss's boss, and the director of the research center where I'm the grunt (and 100% Native Born American) all started on H-1B visas. They all eventually went to green cards and then citizen. Needless to say, they're paid very well.
While this may be true in your case, we know that the vast majority of H-1b applicants are freshers out of college. Most are working for Offshore Outsourcing companies and actively involved in removing jobs from the United States to India.
Just an anecdote:
We opened a position for assistant professor in engineering in early 2023. There were approximately 75 applicants.
0 (Zero) out of 75 were American born US citizens, judging by undergraduate school. A fraction (maybe a fourth) were naturalized citizens or permanent residents. The vast majority needed an H1B, fortunately, the position was exempt from the quota.
If you don’t believe me, pick any major state university, navigate to an engineering department, and look at the assistant professors.
Bad students, hostile work environment, no funding, low salaries, uncertain career path--why would anybody with actual skills and options want to take such a job?
The best U.S. engineering students want jobs that pay more than assistant professors. Assistant professor is a low-paying job, even in the engineering department. Only those who are really into research might become TAs and they'll migrate to the universities with pricey research programs and decent salaries.
The really prestigious research colleges can still get STEM graduates to be TAs.
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NOYB, Lester, you’re basically right.
But it’s not that graduating PhDs don’t think the money and working conditions are good enough, it’s that Americans graduating with a BS and technical ability have the choice between going straight into a $90K+bonus job in industry, or spending six more years being a grad student, with their debt still hanging over them, and then taking a $90K+summer job as a professor. So Americans just don’t do PhDs in engineering.
Quite a few say they want the academic job, and intend to make some money and then go back to school. But five years later they find themselves with a mortgage, a spouse, and a promotion. Going back to Ramen soup and $1K a month is just too hard.
You can thank George Waffen Bush and his daddy's faith-based asset-forfeiture prohibitionism. Wrecking the economy by superstitious sumptuary legislation is not conducive to turning out engineers. But it is conducive to multiplying communist ideologues to worsen the wreckage. That is the process now destroying all of Latin America thanks to Nixon (pelted with stones), Reagan-Biden, Perry, Ford, Bushes and Orange Christian National Socialist.
Yes, and in your previous post you mention that your boss and your boss's boss are all paid well. Well you work in education, and the pay is typically far less than that in private industry. The one advantage you might have (but might not, because there is no employee bargaining power) is benefits (ex: pension). So let's be clear, we are talking about jobs that pay a living wage, and maximizing that, not jobs where you live in a van and eat Ramen.
And many of them shouldn't. Many are not good enough (have you looked at the piss-poor quality of many US degree programs lately?). Many others came to the US on condition that they return to their home country.
Those that are good enough and have made no other commitments have no trouble staying in the US.
Those that are good enough and have made no other commitments have no trouble staying in the US.
Yes.
Readers will observe that Fiona makes no distinction between degrees in Gender studies, Applied anarchism, Underwater basket weaving and poetry appreciation versus Physics, Chemistry, Mathematics, Engineering or Medicine. Of these last, the only curtailment I know of was that physicians emigrating to Canada were, a couple of years back, required to agree not to practice medicine. This struck me as suicidal and proof of a cartel lobby. Islamic Poetry Appreciation PhDs are welcome to return to Altruria, while Physics, Math and Chemistry baccalaureates are welcome to stay and work. See "values"
> while Physics, Math and Chemistry baccalaureates
They really aren't. That is the whole point of Fiona's article.
You should all read DOJ vs Facebook 2020, 2600+ cases of discrimination against better qualified local IT applicants, over just the 1.5 yr period of the investigation. Facebook told U.S. Federal investigators that if finds 30+ fully qualified local STEM/IT candidates per openly advertised job. Facebook also said that these local applicants they turn away (29 per job ad) are better qualified than foreign workers undergoing the Green Card certification process at Facebook, for similar jobs. Facebook never forwards the resumes of the better qualified local applicants, they turn away, to the hiring managers involved in the Green Card process, because that would immediately invalidate the Green Card application. Facebook hides the Green Card certification ads in 2 Sunday print editions of the San Francisco Chronicle. Facebook refused the free offer of the Chronicle, to place these ads on the Chronicle's jobs website. Facebook required any local applicant that found these job ads in the Sunday Chronicle, to send their resume by stamped mail to a lawyer's office in Palo Alto. Basically this means that practically none of the foreign workers at Facebook, applying for a Green Card, are actually needed in the U.S. market place, they are redundant. And you can trust this information, because it all came from Facebook's own actively employed HR personnel. If you lie to a Federal investigator, you can face a 10-year prison sentence (same charge that landed Martha Stewart, a billionaire, in jail), so they told the truth. You can lie all you want to the press and the public about a mythical STEM/IT worker shortage, but you can't lie to a Federal investigator.
Currently we give companies a 15% OPT tax break to hire a foreign student, over an equally qualified local. We need to expand the OPT tax break to all students and the unemployed, as part of a 3-year apprenticeship program. If you leave early (without medical cause), then you pay back the Federal government. This will put our local IT students and unemployed tech workers on the same level as foreign students in this country. Every tech job, requires some training. Companies prefer foreign workers, not because they are more skilled (DOJ vs Facebook 2020), but because they can't leave the job and they come with a massive tax break. The reason for this is because immigration lawyers write the immigration program regulations. And putting a foreign worker on OPT, means massive yearly repeat business, trying to get that H-1b visa. And once on an H-1b visa, it means massive yearly repeat business trying to get the Green Card. An apprenticeship program is a way to restore an open competition for STEM jobs in the United States.
If you look at the data from the last 2 recession, and the current tech recession, H-1b demand has stopped being abated by recession and equally qualified tech worker glut. This despite the fact that 250,000 tech workers were let go. Every tech job on linkedin, gets over 100 applicants. I have 23 years of experience in cloud dev, but have only had one interview these last 7 months. This year, there 800,000 H-1b applications, 400,000 of which are legitimate job offers. Most of the H-1b applicants are freshers, right out of college in India. What this means is that the H-1b system has created a massive system of discrimination against our local graduates and our local tech workers. We need to end the idiotic H-1b lottery, and instead switch to a merit based visa application process, that requires companies to openly advertise jobs, and consider all reasonable applicants, not just people who can indenture themselves to a fellow countryman here in the United States.
You are right, immigrants cannot stay in the US for various reasons, but the immigration system mainly influences this outcome. In any case, if you came to the USA for any purpose, you should first contact an immigration lawyer to resolve issues with preparing the correct package of documents, etc. Olena Manilich is also an immigrant, so she knows very well how to help you in various situations.
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