Kevin McCarthy Announces Impeachment Inquiry Into Joe Biden

The investigation could look into "allegations of abuse of power, obstruction, and corruption" related to the president's involvement in his son's foreign business dealings.

House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R–Calif.) announced today that the House will launch an impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden's links to his son Hunter's foreign business dealings.

"I do not make this decision lightly. Regardless of your party or who you voted for, these facts should concern all Americans," said McCarthy during his announcement of the investigation. "The American people deserve to know that public offices are not for sale and that the federal government is not being used to cover up the actions of a politically associated family."

McCarthy referenced revelations from pre-existing House committee investigations that he says deserve further inquiry in the form of an impeachment investigation.

They include Biden's participation in phone calls with Hunter Biden's business partners, $20 million in payments made through shell companies to the Biden family and associates, and the allegations from one FBI informant that the Biden family accepted illegal bribes as part of these business dealings.

"These are allegations of abuse of power, obstruction, and corruption, and they warrant further investigation by the House of Representatives," said McCarthy, adding that an impeachment inquiry will give House committees the powers they need to conduct a more thorough investigation.

Comments

[Longtobefree]

The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind - - - - - -

[MatthewSlyfield]

Did you break wind again?

[The Margrave of Azilia]

Belated Clinton joke?

Oh, wait, you said "in the wind."

[SgtKevin]

Are they also going to check into the $2 billion dollars that Trump's kids made?

For that matter are they going to investigate every Congress critter whose kids tried to play off their name?

[soldiermedic76]

The $2 billion they made running a pre-existing company, that they ran because Trump excluded himself from all his previous businesses? None of it made by selling access to the President to foreign powers. Yeah, sure go with that dipshit. Seems like a winner.

[VULGAR MADMAN]

Don’t mock his Blueanon talking points!

[charliehall]

That isn't true and you know it. The Saudis invested $2 billion in Kushner despite a lack of detail in what he was going to use it for. Only people as rich and foolish as the Saudi royal family would ever do such a thing. Except they weren't foolish -- they were buying influence. Just last week Jared called on his father in law to promote a "peace" deal between the Saudis and Israel. The Saudis probably didn't realize the Jared overstated his influence with his father in law, who probably realizes that Jared isn't of any use to him any more if he ever was.

Oh and Hunter supposedly made $20 million? That is one one hundredth of what Jared got from the Saudis.

[Mother's Lament]

Kushner didn’t “make” that money, you Media Matters shill, he’s managing it as part of his job as an investment manager, which he was doing before Trump became president.

Were you “given” the 7Eleven you’re managing? If you get a job managing the Walmart produce section should the government investigate you for getting a Walmart from the Waltons?

I swear, your fucking talking points get dumber and dumber every day.

[soldiermedic76]

How is a peace treaty between Israel and Saudi Arabia a bad thing? And didn't Trump try and negotiate one anyhow? Fuck You're an idiot.

[EISTAU Gree-Vance]

Lol. Wow! You have amazing, detailed knowledge of these peoples relationships and how they present themselves to saudis. You are clearly going way deeper than the X’s and O’s Charlie! That is in depth analysis.

What an idiot.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

They didn’t write a check to Kushner you dumb cunt.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

Everything you just said is all pops and buzzes to what passes for his little mind. Best to just deposit him in a landfill and pave over him when the time comes.

Just like all the other Marxists.

[Minadin]

"are they going to investigate every Congress critter whose kids tried to play off their name?"

Sure, why not? I'll accept your terms.

Then we can do insider trading.

[JesseAz]

He didnt make 2B you retarded fuck. The 2B is the value of the investment. What Kushner gets is management expenses, not the 2B in funds.

Do democrats care about facts at all?

[CountmontyC]

Well no, no they don't.

[rbike]

Always pin this down. They know nothing but smear with lies.

[R Mac]

They choose truth over facts.

[TryLogic]

^ That's a thread winner there folks. Mic drop. Bravo.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

Nope. If they did, they wouldn’t be democrats.

[Djmcg55]

1) This story is not about Trump. Besides your allegations have already been addresses.
2) All politicians need to be held accountable if they are selling influence
3) Biden has, at lest once, bragged about having the Ukrainian prosecutor fired after his son asked that he " intervene " . That, in itself is enough to merit Impeachment. ( a Republican doing that would have been impeached a long time ago. )

[Don't look at me!]

The walls are closing in!

[charliehall]

On Donald Trump.

[Mother's Lament]

Which one are you?

[soldiermedic76]

Just like in 2017, 2018, 2019 and 2020 right dipshit?

[A Cynical Asshole]

This is where the fun begins.

[soldiermedic76]

This is a travesty. Everyone knows Uncle Joe is the most transparent President Ever and the buck stops with him. He has saved our economy. Saved the world with his green agenda. Saved us from literal (sic) insurrection. Brought the country together (by labeling half of it MEGA MAGA terrorists and traitors). Survived a devastating fire that nearly destroyed his vette and cat. Single handedly started the civil rights movement. Single handedly ended apartheid in South Africa. Single handedly destroyed all corruption in Ukraine by getting the prosecutor investigating corruption fired.

[Fats of Fury]

Only 10% of the buck stops with him.

[Mike Parsons]

*At least* 10% of the buck stops with him

[Dillinger]

and half my salary!! ~~Hunter

[BigT]

More like $20 million

[mad.casual]

No mention of the fact that he ended the war in Afghanistan, a feat that the previous administrations were too incompetent to achieve?

[Liberty Lover]

Ending a war by getting your ass kicked has never in history been considered a good thing.

[Minadin]

Hey, an ending is still an ending.

[charliehall]

It was Trump who surrendered to the Taliban, not Biden.

[Diarrheality]

It was Trump who surrendered to the Taliban...

Your support of endless wars benefiting the MIC is noted. Perhaps when you're done fingering your asshole, you can further your support by taking up a forward position in Ukraine.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

Nope. He really didn’t. But Biden managed to fuck things up, like Obama said he does, and turn it into a defeat.

It’s the democrat way.

[Old Engineer]

I'm just happy that he didn't offer the Taliban American citizenship so that they could vote for him in the next election.

[A Cynical Asshole]

Don't give him ideas.

[Medulla Oblongata]

Pretty sure quite a few Taliban have made their way to the US, maybe they'll vote for Joe after all.

[DirkT]

How many of the Taliban have made their way to the USA and will vote for Biden? That number is as large as your imagination, right?

[R Mac]

Holy shit how many fifty cent retards DID they send for this article?

[gnome]

Who needs them. There are plenty of votes on the photocopier already.

[charliehall]

Don't give Trump ideas. He is still praising Kim Jong Un.

[soldiermedic76]

Don't you get tired of regurgitating discredited talking points and looking like an idiot?

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

He’s too stupid to realize how unoriginal. Hackneyed and discredited he really is.

[Djmcg55]

He did just give Iran $6B plus 6 terrorists in exchange for6 US citizens.

[soldiermedic76]

And it's totes wasn't another Saigon. We literally (sic) didn't see American military helicopters scrambling to evacuate American Citizens from the rooftop of the embassy.

[Heresolong]

So your spin is that despite Trump's publicized plan to withdraw from Afghanistan on a particular timeline, carefully worked out with military and civilian leadership, the fact that Biden accelerated that timeline and abandoned the actual plan for political optics and gain, resulting in one of the most horrifically incompetent and destructive withdrawals in the history of US warfare, it was Biden who ended the war and Trump who was "too incompetent" to do this. Interesting.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

You sir are a lying dog faced pony soldier.

[soldiermedic76]

No, no corn pop assures me it's all true. And we know he's a bad dude.

[Pear Satirical]

Don't forget curing cancer.

[jimc5499]

Careful man. Your sarcasm meter looks like it's about to go nuclear.

[TryLogic]

Saved us from Corn Pop, too. #Never forget

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2]

Well, a blowjob from an intern sounds quaint these days.

[Michael Ejercito]

At least FJB did not commit perjury for the purpose of defeating a sexual harassment lawsuit.

[Dillinger]

yet ...

[Liberty Lover]

No but he will commit prejury to avoid corruption and bribery charges. Biden is a compulsive liar, he will tell a lie when the truth would serve him better.

[gnome]

Tara Reade unavailable for comment then, is she?

[charliehall]

Tara Reade is a confirmed liar -- and a political opponent of Biden.

[R Mac]

Cite?

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

She said something that was against Biden. What more do you need?

[Mother's Lament]

What confirmed it other than the fact that your boss at fifty-cent factory told you to say that?

[Ersatz]

And what made her an enemy - perhaps it was when he Non-consensually fingerbanged her?

[soldiermedic76]

#believeqllwomen*
*unless they accuse a Democrat then slander them until you destroy them.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

Is that what you were told to think?

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

Not nearly as fun as a blowjob from a little boy, right Shreek?

[jcw]

I think there should be a permanent impeachment inquiry of every president at all times. Please, dumb politicians, waste all your energy and resources stabbing each other in the back!

[Miss Ann Thrope]

But then Congress won't have time to repeal unneeded laws and control the national debt.
Oh, wait...

[Fats of Fury]

McCarthy is going to be battling the fierce El Rino headwinds all the way.

[JesseAz]

Buck (R) is leading the charge as he appeared on MSNBC to defend Biden with claims of no evidence despite the inquiry being needed to get bank records with subpoenas.

[Lester75]

McC caved to Freedom Caucus wingers.
Impeaching Trump didn't help demos. Impeaching Biden won't help Repubs.

[JesseAz]

Thank you for your concern trolling.

I do have a question though...

Does a single leftist here not know that an impeachment inquiry is different from an impeachment?

[R Mac]

They’re not sending their best.

[JesseAz]

I fear sarc and Mike are their best.

[Stuck in California]

They don't have to be any good, just plentiful. The pseudo-soviet theory of internet manipulation, quantity has a quality all its own.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

It’s like fighting a bunch of rabid retarded kindergartners. They’re weak and pathetic, but a hundred of them can be a problem.

[soldiermedic76]

No these are the same idiots who think you can deprive someone of their right to run for office without a conviction for sedition (which they haven't even been charged with).

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

It’s McCarthy’s constitutional duty to impeach Biden for selling his office. An alien concept to many.

[con_fuse9]

The moment you say RINO everyone knows you're a fruitcake.
RINO == anyone that doesn't lick DJT's boots. Please!

While its pathetic the best Democrats and Republicans have to offer is Biden and Trump - its worse that there are people out there that actually revere these two idiots.

It is still true, no one ever accused a Trump supporter of being smart.

[Mike Parsons]

Let the inquiry go through the rest of the year, then spend 2024 on impeachment hearings.

Would be everything they deserve

[Fats of Fury]

Let's hope the dems don't fuck this up. This is a perfect opportunity to dump Joe, make history with Kamala and still blame the republicans. They could have had 8+ years of Al Gore and been done with the Clintons back when they had the chance.

[Longtobefree]

Exactly.
Then slide Newsome in as Kween Kamala's VP, and two years and a day into her reign, the 25th can give him 10 years as president for life.

[Old Engineer]

The real Kamala Harris died three years ago. This one is an impostor.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=kamala+harris+wrestler+images&ia=web

[SRG2]

This is an excellent opportunity to dump Biden. I wonder whether McCarthy's thinking is that an impeachment investigation will instead solidify Democratic support for Biden, his view being that Biden is the GOP's preferred candidate to run against.

Certainly it would be foolish to think that McCarthy didn't make a political calculation before this announcement, but it's not easy to be sure what the calculation is. It may be to satisfy the batshit wing of the GOP (MTG et al), or to avoid being primaried, or to remove a threat from Gym Jordan or, least likely of all, on the grounds that Biden may well be guilty of impeachable offences so the right thing to do is investigate.

[JesseAz]

What if the calculation is simply Joe is corrupt as fuck and it exposes the Democrats?

[SRG2]

I would not exclude that as a possibility

[Sevo]

"This is an excellent opportunity to dump Biden..."

For Newsom, the tin-pot-dictator wanna be? The empty pile of clothes Harris?

[The Margrave of Azilia]

She put the clothes back on before driving home.

[Fats of Fury]

The house would have complete control on who the next Vice President will be.

[Mother's Lament]

You guys impeached Trump for recommending they do what McCarthy is doing, so maybe you can impeach McCarthy too.

[SRG2]

Who are "you guys"? And what was Trump's first impeachment for? The accurate version, not some febrile MAGA bullshit.

[JesseAz]

It was the whistleblower and Vindman accusing trump of foreign election interference for Trump asking Ukraine to look into the firing of Shokin. Which is 100% justified by the release of all recent documents from the State Dept and foreign agencies.

But you knew that. The transcript was even released the day after the accusations. And even with the immediate release the Dems also tacked on obstruction.

Please defend the 1st impeachment in light of all current information.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Duh, giving Putin a BJ.

[Mother's Lament]

"Who are “you guys”?"

Democratic party shills and apologists.

"And what was Trump’s first impeachment for? The accurate version, not some febrile MAGA bullshit."

I'll be more than happy to oblige, but first I want you to tell us what you think the "accurate version" is, and why it's accurate.

[A Cynical Asshole]

first I want you to tell us what you think the “accurate version” is, and why it’s accurate.

The version that aligns with The Narrative and confirms all of his pre-existing biases, which is also how he knows it's accurate: because it confirms all his pre-existing biases, therefore it must be true.

[SRG2]

Let's quote directly from the investigation:
"[T]he impeachment inquiry has found that President Trump, personally and acting through agents within and outside of the U.S. government, solicited the interference of a foreign government, Ukraine, to benefit his reelection. In furtherance of this scheme, President Trump conditioned official acts on a public announcement by the new Ukrainian President, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, of politically-motivated investigations, including one into President Trump's domestic political opponent. In pressuring President Zelenskyy to carry out his demand, President Trump withheld a White House meeting desperately sought by the Ukrainian President, and critical U.S. military assistance to fight Russian aggression in eastern Ukraine."

Of course, as most of you are pro-Putin shills and apologists, to use MoLa's phrase, you are likely to have supported in particular the withholding of US military assistance.

[Mother's Lament]

“solicited the interference of a foreign government, Ukraine, to benefit his reelection.”

Now tell us how the fuck it was foreign interference when what he was accused of “soliciting”, was valid factual information about a fucking crime by an American vice president that he had every right to request as President.

And maybe you want to explain why the FBI knew about Biden’s criminality but hid it during the election and the phony impeachment.

And then finally explain how this proves your assertion that I was wrong when I said “You guys impeached Trump for recommending they do what McCarthy is doing”, because your own quote says that.

“In pressuring President Zelenskyy to carry out his demand, President Trump withheld a White House meeting desperately sought by the Ukrainian President, and critical U.S. military assistance to fight Russian aggression in eastern Ukraine.” Of course, as most of you are pro-Putin shills and apologists”

Cool your jets, Joe McCarthy. Russia isn’t at war with the US no matter how badly you want it to be. The Ukraine isn’t a US state and America has no business there. If you were libertarian you’d understand that.

You definitely are Shrike through and through however. With Neocon warpig sensibilities like yours you could have gotten a job in the Bush administration.

[SRG2]

Way to move the goal posts. The question was why was Trump impeached and the accuracy (or otherwise) of your stated reasons, and was not about the strength of the evidence.

Nor am I shrike. And as for war pig. that is laughable coming from a Putin apologist. I was never in favour of the Iraq War, nor of Grenada, Panama, Vietnam, nor involvements in Iran and Chile, etc etc. Easy when one isn't originally an American, of course.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

We’re not pro Putin. Personally, I’d snap his neck just like every other one of you Marxist ghouls. So shove that shit up your faggot boy fucking asshole

Or better yet, just kill yourself. Come on, deep down you know you should.

[R Mac]

“McCarthy referenced revelations from pre-existing House committee investigations”

First I’m hearing of this.

[Mother's Lament]

If it were real I'm sure Reason would've had tons of articles on it.

[Truthteller1]

Move the reply button

[R Mac]

Why?

[rbike]

Because when scrolling on my phone, I keep hitting the button and having to CANCEL REPLY too often. Just sayin'

[JesseAz]

Shame the lefty!

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Flag button is worse because you can't cancel if you accidently hit it.

[soldiermedic76]

Flag should be a two part option like muting or unmuting. Are you sure you want to flag this comment? That would eliminate most of the accidental flags.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

That would involve several minutes of minimal effort from whoever handles Reason’s website.

So it won’t happen.

[R Mac]

I’d prefer truthteller answer the question, thanks.

[soldiermedic76]

A good rule of thumb, if someone uses a self fellating word such as truth in their handle you can pretty much guarantee you won't get any truth from them. It's like strippers named Chastity.

[Gozer the Gozarian]

Death to corruption and the corrupt!

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Why do you hate democracy?

[TJJ2000]

…because it doesn’t have any assurance for Liberty and Justice.
As-if the Anti-USA (US Constitution) Democratic government hasn't demonstrated that in truck loads.

[Commenter_XY]

The only question is whether impeachment happens before or after Xmas. My guess is before....Team R will want to deliver a Xmas present of sorts to POTUS Biden.

[JesseAz]

One of the reasons being speculated for Weiss indicting Hunter by end of the month is he would be able to turn down any subpoenas to appear at the impeachment hearings. The thinking is Weiss indicts then drops after the impeachment to keep Hunter from being called for the inquiry.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Sounds right but I keep hearing that an impeachment hearing has much broader supenea powers. Don't know what applies in the case of an "inquiry".

[JesseAz]

He would be justified in yelling fif at each question.

[tracerv]

Worked for Tron.

[Commenter_XY]

JesseAZ, I am not sure in an impeachment scenario that you can turn down that subpoena. I seem to recall reading that the rules change somewhat in an impeachment scenario.

Congress is at the apex of their power in an impeachment scenario.

[JesseAz]

It would definitely give him cover with court challenges as they try not to align criminal investigations, especially post indictment, with congressional testimony.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

You’re correct. The House has a great deal more power in an impeachment. Levine as talking about that on his show, and he’s pretty solid on this sort of thing.

[Jim Logajan]

All very interesting, but I'm hoping for a shut down of the Federal government.

[windycityattorney]

Well Marge Green (R-Dumbfuck) said she wouldn't vote for any budget bills unless McCarthy allowed an up/down vote on impeachment. And you know how much pull large Marge has in the house.

Now, they just need to schedule the vote.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Nancy never called a vote.

[R Mac]

^ this guy is definitely an attorney.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

I’m guessing you’re only an expert on Bird Law.

[JesseAz]

Less credible than Balsley Ford I'm sure.

What a short article regarding the evidence already known. Nothing about the State Dept and European emails praising Shokin just prior to Burisma hiring Blue Star Strategies and Hunter. Biden bragging about withholding aide. The articles opening trump impeachment were both longer and repeated what turned out to be false claims.

[Dillinger]

"no direct evidence" ... "there is no evidence" ... "yes but that's circumstantial" ... "no direct evidence" ... "no direct evidence" ... "no direct evidence"

[JesseAz]

Chapelle R Kelly skit comes to mind.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Yeah McCarthy didn't get to the Shokin evidence which is overwhelming. I'm not sure why at this point unless he's covering somebody's ass. Really no way to keep it out.

[JesseAz]

He just sent a letter to State for all documents relating to the change of status towards Shokin. May actually have been Comer though.

[Michael Ejercito]

We need a nice snap impeachment to uncover the truth.

[mad.casual]

Considering some of the alleged impeachable activity is tied to the actions from when he was VP and for which his predecessor has already been impeached, what exactly is the criteria for "snap"?

[Moderation4ever]

You need evidence first. Start there and hold the snap, crakle, pop for your breakfast.

[JesseAz]

There is a lot of evidence.

[Moderation4ever]

A least as much as there is for election fraud.

[JesseAz]

Act Blue talking points aren’t helping you out much today.

Bank records, laptop, emails, witnesses, etc. Yeap. No evidence.

[charliehall]

No Joe Biden bank records indicating anything problematic.

Nothing on the laptop admissible as evidence anywhere.

No incriminating emails.

Prime witness is a Chinese spy, Iranian Arms trafficker, and fugitive. Now exactly how are the Republicans going to get him to testify under oath? The Democrats are licking their chops at the possibility of cross examining him.

[JesseAz]

Well this is false too. Admitted coming Ling of accounts with Hunter as well as questions about CelticCorp they haven't had a subpoena for.

Plenty of incriminating emails like 10% for the big guy and again comingling of accounts.

I do love this retard theory that if a criminal just puts money in a family members account there is no crime. You have to be retarded to believe that. But it is amusing.

[soldiermedic76]

That's why they charged him with crimes that the evidence totally absolves him of? And did you ignore the four other career justice department and IRS agents who also testified? Or the fact that Biden used false aliases to hide these business deals from FOIA requests?

[soldiermedic76]

Nothing says nothing to hide like using multiple aliases to hide your dealings.

[Mother's Lament]

Now you're flat out lying and you know you're lying.

[R Mac]

He’s a parody.

[JesseAz]

It really is the only explanation.

[Mother's Lament]

Oh wow, Mod.

You're right. Outside of the bank records, the multiple bank issued Suspicious Activity reports, the wire transfers, the Privat bank transactions, the LLCs, the texts, the emails, the WhatsApp messages, the photo's of Joe with Hunter's business partners he said he didn't meet, the voicemails to his son, the two business partners advertising Joe as "The Brand", the "big guy" and "the chairman", the two whistleblowers testimonies, the recorded phone calls between Biden and Poroshenko, the video of Joe bragging about the firing of the Ukrainian prosecutor, and Hunter's statements about having to give his father half his income, there is absolutely NO EVIDENCE.

[JesseAz]

Missed the recent email showing Joe's VP office helping Hunter directly.

[jimc5499]

Just impeach him for mishandling classified documents. Plenty of evidence and I'm pretty sure one of his statements was a confession.

[BigT]

You mean like bank records, witness testimony, statements from contacts in Ukraine, email messages, and video of the perp bragging about getting bribed?

[soldiermedic76]

Snap impeachment? The house has been holding hearings for a year and the investigators have said they need impeachment proceedings to continue to gather evidence that the Whitehouse has blocked. But yeah, snap impeachment.

[sarcasmic]

Make Harris president. Great idea. Idiots.

[JesseAz]

Because Biden is the greatest president ever huh sarc.

[sarcasmic]

Because she's worse, dipshit.

[JesseAz]

Youre aware that Congress plays a role. And how is she worse? She is just as bad as Biden. They literally have the same set of advisors. They are figureheads dumbass. They are both terrible. Replace them and they same shit will be signed and passed.

They are both terribly bad. Maybe think about it next time before pushing mainstream narratives to justify your hatred.

[sarcasmic]

Why don't you try responding to my words instead of the voices in your head?

[JesseAz]

Why don't you try intelligently defending your assertions?

If you think both are terrible you would be criticizing Joe instead of screaming about Harris as a reason to not impeach him.

[sarcasmic]

Why do you insist that she's benign? It's like you'd vote for her or something.

[JesseAz]

Again. That whole intelligent and logical argumentation you lack shines through.

[sarcasmic]

Impeaching Biden equals making Harris the president. Why do you want her as the president?

[Kungpowderfinger]

Impeaching Biden equals making Harris the president

Mike Pence and Al Gore will be surprised to hear this.

[JesseAz]

I dont know how to make this more clear after a half dozen times.

They have the same policy advisors. The outcome of policies would be the same. It makes no difference.

Your screams of Harris only make sense to protect Joe from impeachment however. As you won't say how policies would be different.

Your logic doesn't exist.

[Mike Laursen]

My prediction is it would go about the same as Trump’s impeachments: the Republicans may accomplish an impeachment of Biden, but they won’t be able to get the votes to remove Biden from office.

Hmm, come to think of it, Harris is one of the reasons they won't get the votes.

[Get To Da Chippah]

Name one policy Kamala is worse on than Biden. Failing that, name one thing that makes Kamala worse.

Mind you, I am not saying she is better. They are both basically brain dead figureheads who will be puppetted around by unelected proggy assholes.

[JesseAz]

He won't answer. His only concern is trying to dissuade the impeachment.

[Fats of Fury]

He probably wants her to get a work permit first.

[JesseAz]

Lol.

[Outlaw Josey Wales]

Does she need a work permit for a blow job?

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Hey Professional sex workers are real workers.
#ENB

[Fats of Fury]

He probably wants her to get a work permit first. Because there are no jobs without a work permit.

[Jerry B.]

Try naming one policy Kamala is responsible for. That’d be a good start.

[JesseAz]

Venn Diagrams.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Governing by BJ.

[Mother's Lament]

I'm not opposed to this. A BJ from the politicians would make a nice change from all the surprise buttsex they inflict on their constituents.

[A Cynical Asshole]

surprise buttsex

Without even the god-damned common courtesy of a reach around.

[soldiermedic76]

A BJ is about all I'd take from her. Then again to get it up I would need to take a double dose of Cialis.

[soldiermedic76]

Because she is about as attractive as Rosanne Barr and Rosie ODonnell combined.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

What about Michelle?

[R Mac]

Ladydick is overrated. Speaking for sarc.

[soldiermedic76]

God, Michelle makes Rodman or Barkley look sexy by comparison.

[Don't look at me!]

What if she’s in on the scam?

[sarcasmic]

What if you had a brain?

[JesseAz]

Ideas!

What policies would change with her instead of Biden dumbass?

Why are you actually angry? Because Joe is being shown to be everything you hated about Trump but with evidence?

[sarcasmic]

Oh I’m sure the former prosecutor could think of something. Not sure why you insist I’m angry and full of hate. Projection is my guess.

[JesseAz]

5 years of statements buddy. Irrational emotional hate devoid of thought.

I mean you’re raging in these comments lol.

How is Harris worse than Biden? What would be different? You made the assertion. Defend it. My assertion is they are both fucking terrible.

Your statement seems to be done in defense of defending Biden from impeachment.

[sarcasmic]

I agree that they're both terrible. She's a former prosecutor, which means she has no soul. So I'm sure she could figure something out to make things worse. Unlike you though I have no ability to predict the future.

[JesseAz]

You have no means to defend your assertions you mean.

[sarcasmic]

Why do you have such a hardon to see her as the president?

[JesseAz]

I dont. I have stated both are terrible dumbass. But it doesn't matter if she or Joe is the president. They don't run shit.

Why are you protecting Joe from impeachment buddy? Makes your 2019 wails looks pretty bad huh.

[sarcasmic]

I just agreed that they're both terrible, dumbass. You're the one keen on making her president by impeaching Skeletor. Why? You want to make history by making the first black, woman president?

[JesseAz]

Yet you are dead set on screaming Harris as a reason not to impeach Joe instead of you know... criticizing Joe.

Lol.

Your argument essentially boils down to dont impeach Joe Biden on known corruption because of Harris despite you not explaining what the difference would be.

The primary factor being not to impeach Joe.

[sarcasmic]

No, I'm saying you're an idiot for wanting her as the president, just to satisfy your anger and hatred towards Biden. There's an expression about that. Something about cutting off your nose.

[sarcasmic]

Biden is a fucking idiot. Harris is a conniving bitch. Sometimes the devil you know is better.

[JesseAz]

Sarc, answer the question. What would change? Nothing. You ran in here with the GOPe rationalization of why Biden shouldn’t be impeached. You don’t want dems to be impeached. You can’t explain what would be different.

Your counter arguments make no sense in the sense that there would be no difference. But you would allow coverage for Joe’s corruption. Youre literally defending Joe against charges on possibly the most retarded talking point ever. Just like you’ve constantly attacked all the known evidence in comments against him. And cried when people were saying FJB. And yes I can post examples. My favorite is Biden respecting the constitution. Lol.

[R Mac]

Pour sarc.

[sarcasmic]

Nothing requires her to keep Biden’s staff. So your argument is based upon a crystal ball.

And if nothing at all would change as you say, then what's the point of impeachment other than emotional vindictiveness?

[JesseAz]

Whats the point of impeaching a corrupt politician says the retard who cries about qualified immunity non stop.

Please. Defend Joe more.

[sarcasmic]

I think Harris would be worse != I think Biden is great

And you talk about your prowess in the subject of logic. You're an idiot.

[JesseAz]

The entire thesis of your argument is giving Joe Biden a pass on impeachment dumbass. The only goal you have here is to give him a pass.

Your two arguments against Harris are even worse in regards to Biden. You want to give him a pass.

If he is guilty of corruption why are you AGAINST impeachment?

[sarcasmic]

The entire thesis of your argument is giving Joe Biden a pass on impeachment dumbass. The only goal you have here is to give him a pass.

No, the entire thesis of my argument is that I think Harris would be worse. I'd rather the doddering old fool stay in office than have the power-hungry bitch take over.

[JesseAz]

You have given two examples so far. Crime and guns. Joe has been just as bad as if not worse. So your assertion is without merit. And again done to give Biden a pass at being impeached.

Want me to pull up the Trump impeachment comments from you? You had ZERO problems criticizing Trump even though the claims were largely baseless. But you can't do that here.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

Guys, he’s not going to answer your question any more than he will face me. He’s a weasel and a pussy.

[TrickyVic (old school)]

I don't think the dems even want that.

Have you seen a Harris / Trump poll for 2024 anywhere?

[sarcasmic]

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_harris-7386.html

[JesseAz]

Ahh. Thats your big worry. Trump being favored more under Harris. Lol.

[sarcasmic]

Get off the crack pipe dude, you're hallucinating again.

[JesseAz]

How so? You rush into a Biden impeachment article and instead of criticizing him you start screaming about Harris. The only reason for that is to defend against the impeachment.

Most of the anti trump GOPe are making the same argument.

[sarcasmic]

You're the one who wants her as the president. Why do you like her so much?

[JesseAz]

You are really bad at logical arguments aren't you buddy. Even here your primary concern is not impeachment Biden by using Harris as the result. It is a stupid argument as they have the same policy administration teams. You won't say how policy would change, but want to argue it so you can push back on the Joe impeachment.

Youre not fooling anybody. Prove me wrong. Tell us how Harris policies would differ from Joe's.

[sarcasmic]

You're the one who wants her as the president. Why do you think she's so much better than Biden?

[JesseAz]

Man you are really terrible at logic aren't you.

[sarcasmic]

Says the guy with a 'Impeach Biden - Harris 2023' sticker on his car.

[JesseAz]

How would policy change under Harris. Answer the question sarc.

Until you do your apparent only care about is defending Joe from impeachment.

Your logic and intelligence is under audit. Make your argument.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Why switch horses midstream?

[sarcasmic]

She’s got 30 years in law enforcement in CA and once referred to herself as “top cop.” That means she’s a raging cunt.

What makes you so sure that she wouldn’t do anything if she became president? I don’t know any more than you do. So let us look at her history. She helped to put over 1500 pot smokers in jail. She opposes any kind of police accountability. She sent out cops to confiscate peoples’ guns in California. You want a literal gun-grabber for president?

I’d rather have the current incompetent boob than her as president.

[JesseAz]

Yet you can't explain what the difference would be. She has a campaign website from 2020. You can go do some research instead of justifying yourself running in to complain about impeaching Uncle Joe.

Just pathetic at this point.

Finally found a government actor Sarc doesn't want impeached or to go to jail for crimes. Lol.

[sarcasmic]

Finally found a Democrat JesseAz wants as president: Harris.

[JesseAz]

The difference between you and I sarc is I never want a dem to be anywhere near the seat of power. You are set on defending Joe because it makes your last 7 years if commentary here seem retarded, which it was.

Youre the one who keeps asserting dems are more for liberty. Lol.

[sarcasmic]

Fuck off dude. I'm not a Democrat. I know your simple mind can't grok independent thought, shown by your consistent attacks on anyone who isn't a Republican, but some of us out here think for ourselves.

[JesseAz]

Hey retard. I didn’t say you were a democrat (even funnier because you call people trump cultists, conservatives, and MAGA constantly), I said you’ve made consistent claims they align with libertarians such as:

sarcasmic 1 year ago Flag Comment Mute User That means that libertarians now have more in common with the left than with the right. Not because libertarians have drifted left. Rather its because the conservative right has abandoned support for liberty in general.

This despite covid regulations, censorship, regulations, command economy, higher taxes. It makes you a laughing stock.

But let me simplify the question for you.

Should Biden be investigated for corruption, yes or no?

If the answer is yes, why the fuck are you trying to give him a pass?

[sarcasmic]

Hand me a box of crayons. Ok, thanks. I'll try this in big letters.

I THINK KAMALA WOULD BE WORSE

There. That isn't a defense of anyone or giving anyone a pass. It's pointing out that cutting off your nose to spite your face is a bad idea.

[JesseAz]

So you still can’t answer a simple question or criticize Joe. My point is proven. Thanks dumdum. Lol.

Impeaching Joe bad because of uninformed opinions. Lol.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Make Harris president. Great idea. Idiots.

I get your joke here, but I'm not convinced that President Harris would be in any way noticeably or markedly worse. And I'm quite serious about that.

Currently we have:

o Aging man in steep cognitive decline who's so *checks Reason bylines* enfeebled that he's not really running the country, his zoomer interns are.

o Dim witted hot party girl who really has no capacity to be the leader of the free world, and the same zoomer interns telling Biden where to stand and stopping press conferences as he goes off the rails will be doing essentially the same for her. But at least she'll know she's not in Cleveland when she's in Miami.

[JesseAz]

His only concern is not impeaching Joe.

[Ersatz]

^this^
your record with him in comments above establish this definitively

[TrickyVic (old school)]

Prosecutors tend to like prosecuting.

[Mother's Lament]

There's no evidence of Harris peddling influence and taking bribes so I'm going to say she's better than Joe.

Sucking dick to high office isn't illegal or even the worst way to become president.

[R Mac]

Peddling influence in a country we are currently fighting a proxy war with a nuclear power to cover up said corruption. No guarantee we stop the war with Joe gone, but it definitely becomes more likely.

[charliehall]

The guy who was trying to influence Ukraine to do wrong things was Trump. He even got impeached for it. But we now know that Putin is a genocidal dictator who needs to be stopped. Think Adolf Hitler and Austria and Czechoslovakia.

But most of the Republican Party has sold out to Putin.

[Pear Satirical]

Joe Biden literally bragged on camera about forcing Ukraine to do what he wanted!

"Putin is a genocidal dictator...."

No, that's Xi Jinping, who's country was a source of millions to members of the Biden family.

[JesseAz]

Charlie and sarc are in competition for worst take apparently.

[Mother's Lament]

"The guy who was trying to influence Ukraine to do wrong things was Trump."

Investigating Biden's actual corruption is wrong? Hunter, is that you?

[soldiermedic76]

Investigating Democrats is in Charlie’s simpleminded opinion, always a bad thing. Charlie is still butthurt that he got told to stop licking the windows when he had to ride the short bus to school.

[Fats of Fury]

Several advantages to replacing Biden with Harris 1. She can no longer be the tie breaker in the Senate. 2. The house has authority to vote in the next VP. They can sit on that the rest of her term. .

[JesseAz]

Good points.

[soldiermedic76]

Another point: Ford, having nothing to do with Watergate was still handicapped by Nixon. There is no sympathy bump for being part of a corrupt administration like there is with assassination or death in office.

[sarcasmic]

She's a gun grabber who hates potheads. With the power to issue executive orders she could create a lot of mischief.

[JesseAz]

Thank God Joe has never issued anti gun legislation, orders, or runs on anti gun legislation. He RESPECTS the constitution after all.

And this for sure never happened.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/20/18677998/joe-biden-1994-crime-bill-law-mass-incarceration

sarcasmic 1 month ago
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Why wouldn’t there be? Despite all his faults, at least Biden recognizes the Constitution. Can’t say the same about Trump.

LOL

[sarcasmic]

As much as I despise the guy, he did acknowledge limits to presidential power, unlike the crybaby-in-chief.

[JesseAz]

Was that before or after he constantly implemented unconstitutional orders?

What the actual fuck. You truly will defend Biden at all costs.

How many constitutional cases did trump lose at the USSC as compared to Biden again?

[sarcasmic]

Before. At least he actually said there are limits to his power though. That's something King Trump would never say.

[Nobartium]

Style over substance, again.

Raise your hands if you're surprised sarc defended words over actions.

[sarcasmic]

You trying to make me puke here? I don't like defending Biden, or any other politician. They're all scum. The kind of person who seeks power is the last kind of person who should have it. But Skeletor did, in response to some question, say something along the lines of "I can't do that as president."
Good luck getting Trump to say anything like that.

[Nobartium]

Right, words over actions matter the most.

Now explain why this is.

[sarcasmic]

Your strawman can explain it for you.

[JesseAz]

And then Biden did it anyways.

Now compare actions. How many constitutional cases has Joe lost compared to Trump?

And not a strawman as that is literally your fucking argument.

[sarcasmic]

On actions Trump has Biden totally beat.

I've said it a thousand times. Trump was good in that he didn't start any new wars and rolled back some regulation. On economics he was a total retard, and Biden is continuing what he did.

[sarcasmic]

If you had any principles at all you’d be praising Biden for continuing Trump’s trade wars and protectionism. That’s the difference between us. I look at issues and concepts. IDEAS! You only see people.

[JesseAz]

And sarc admits based on actions Trump is better. But because of mean tweets he is worse.

So STYLE OVER SUBSTANCE.

Is your kink being lied to by old dem creepy pedophiles or something?

And was hilarious last week when you tried pretending dems weren't for protectionist tariffs while criticizing trump. You still can't blame Joe or dems even for that. Lol.

[TJJ2000]

Ya; He talks the lying BS like Obama did and then went out and did it anyways. Apparently what you're really a fan of is being lied-to and manipulated.

[JesseAz]

The police officer said i was a nice guy as he bashed my head in so he wasn't all bad, nice words!!!! - sarc

What a fucking childish argument.

[Nobartium]

Then we get a more immediate fight over EO's power.

Gosh, it's like you think nobody else can see a step further than you.

[sarcasmic]

People who get woozy with emotion when they hear talk of impeaching Biden tend to not think ahead.

And yes, the executive has way too much power thanks to Congress delegating their power away to alphabet agencies. Agencies that President Harris could direct with executive orders.

[Nobartium]

Ok?

How is that different than the last 120 years?

[JesseAz]

Biden would never use executive orders. He RESPECTS the constitution lol.

So far you have done nothing but defend Joe despite evidence of corruption. It is amazing. The one true libertarian has spoken in defense of Joe.

[sarcasmic]

Dude, you're fucking retarded if you think saying "I think Harris would be worse" equals "I think Biden is great."

[JesseAz]

You rushed into a thread about Biden to complain about the consequences of him being impeached to defend him.

Not in a single of your posts do you agree he should be impeached for being corrupt.

Fuck off retard monkey.

[sarcasmic]

Fuck off you logically impaired dunce.

[VULGAR MADMAN]

Come see the ideas of the worlds greatest super genius!

[JesseAz]

You have presented zero logic or even baseline of facts. Lol.

Defend Biden retard monkey.

[sarcasmic]

I see politics like an all-you-can-eat buffet. Except instead of roast beef and potatoes and vegetables, the steam table has pan after pan filled with shit. You've got dog shit, cow shit, horse shit, cat shit, rat shit, bat shit, people shit, and on and on it goes. And while I'm gagging over here trying to explain why Kamala's shit smells worse than Biden's, you've got a plate full of Republican shit that you can't stuff into your mouth fast enough.

[Nobartium]

If that's how you see it, why do bother hanging out at ANY political outlet?

It's all shit, and therefore beneath you. Unless, of course, there is indeed flavors of shit there that you like, which ruins your moral high-ground point.

[sarcasmic]

What do I have to do with anything?

[Nobartium]

You just gave your opinion of the bloodsport that is politics, declared it to be folly, then called out those that enjoy it.

So, why are you here or at any political locale?

[sarcasmic]

You just gave your opinion of the bloodsport that is politics, declared it to be folly,

yes

then called out those that enjoy it.

no. My comment was specifically to JesseAz who sucks more Republican cock than a feisty intern at a cocktail party.

[Nobartium]

then called out those that enjoy it.

no

you’ve got a plate full of Republican shit that you can’t stuff into your mouth fast enough.

Now words whatever he says it means. Whatever, muted.

[sarcasmic]

Whatever, muted

*sigh* thank goodness. All your arguments were at me, not what I said, so not seeing them anymore will be a blessing.

[JesseAz]

Lol. Sarc cries about being called a dem above but then screams I'm a republican in a thread I've already called the GOPe out in. As well as Buck (R).

Do you have a cite sarc?

Sniveling Biden sucking retard.

[sarcasmic]

in a thread I’ve already called the GOPe out in

I missed that part. Care to point it out since you're not worth the effort of me doing it myself?

[JesseAz]

Does the greatest programmer in history not know how to do a find on a website?

[Mike Laursen]

I was under the impression thinking all politics is shit is not that much of an outlier position to find at a libertarian website.

[sarcasmic]

Libertarian website, Trumptard-ruled comments.

[JesseAz]

Why do you democrats keep coming in to defend the left if it is a trumptard comment system?

Funny how you and Mike get to throw those names around but don't dare call you out for constantly defending democrats.

[JesseAz]

You go to the all you can eat Bidens Ass buffet apparently.

[Pear Satirical]

Oh, like Joe Biden?

[BigT]

Ya think the Donkeys would ever vote out SloJo?

Nah, the play here is to have impeachment hearings all summer and fall of ‘24. Keep scheduling a vote and delaying it a bit. Of course the MSM could ignore it. That’s their fav move - like Sgt Schulz in Hogan’s Heroes. They know nothing!

Btw that would make a great R campaign ad.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

This is an article.

Hillary Clinton is stepping over the White House threshold in yet another role

WASHINGTON (AP) — During her husband’s 1992 presidential campaign, Hillary Clinton observed that “our lives are a mixture of different roles” and said most people are trying to find the right balance.

“For me, that balance is family, work and service,” she said.

Clinton juggled those roles — and more — during eight years as first lady in the White House. She’s returning Tuesday for her first public appearance in the building since the Obama years to indulge her love for the arts.

In her White House years, she was a wife, a mother and the nation’s hostess, but also a wronged spouse, the head of a national health care task force and on the cover of Vogue. In later years, she stepped over the White House threshold as a visiting senator and Cabinet member, but never in the long-sought role of Madam President.

Early on as first lady, she held a rare news conference where she was grilled about the Clintons’ past real estate dealings, declaring that she had been “rezoned” out of her sphere of privacy.

The former first lady and current first lady Jill Biden will appear together to announce the recipients of the Praemium Imperiale, an annual global arts prize for lifetime achievement by the Japan Art Association. Both women will deliver remarks.

Her return visit is likely to be a sentimental one.

[Fats of Fury]

Is it her turn again?

[Zeb]

BARF

[TrickyVic (old school)]

""declaring that she had been “rezoned” out of her sphere of privacy.""

Server was removed from the bathroom?

[soldiermedic76]

I miss Adams and Jefferson, who mostly retired to private life and kept their thoughts mainly to themselves and close associates after leaving office.

[sarcasmic]

I knew you were old, but shit..

[VULGAR MADMAN]

Humans long ago developed this technique of preserving knowledge and passing it on to future generations.

What did they call it ? Oh yeah, writing.

[JesseAz]

You have to forgive sarc. His entire intelligence and logical argument is based on complete ignorance. He assumes that standard of everyone else.

[soldiermedic76]

Funny thing is, I'm almost certain Sarc is der than me. I'm pretty sure he's said he's older than 47 (the 76 in my username is my birth year).

[Dillinger]

>>"The American people deserve to know public offices are not for sale and the federal government is not being used to cover up the actions of a politically associated family."

lol Roosevelts, Kennedys, Busheseses, Brandon, Inc.

[Mike Laursen]

Curious you listed all those but didn't include the Trump family.

[JesseAz]

Mike, are you capable of criticizing Biden in an article thread about him? We know sarc isn't. You two have to spend all your energy deflecting from the bad acts of democrats after all.

[TrickyVic (old school)]

So is "someone told me someone else said this" going to be evidence again?

[Sevo]

The admission a couple of weeks ago that Hunter would dial up dear ol' dad in the middle of a business meeting, but that was only 'the appearance of access' was an amusing bit of horse-shit.

[Moderation4ever]

My hope is that McCarthy got some concessions on the budget for this farce. He likely handed the gavel to Haken Jeffries in the next Congress.

[JesseAz]

How?

[Moderation4ever]

Eighteen Republicans hold seats in districts that Joe Biden carried in 2020. Biden will carry those districts in 2024 but the Republicans will be dumped. McCarthy has only a 4-seat majority that will not hold in 2024. Mark the tape and we will see.

[Don't look at me!]

Joe will not be running.

[VULGAR MADMAN]

Joe can barely walk.

[JesseAz]

Ahh. So the 2022 elections never happened and Joe is popular... got it. Thanks for the Act Blue concern trolling.

[Moderation4ever]

The 2022 red wave never happened. Joe is popular enough and the impeachment inquiry will make him more popular. It did for Bill Clinton. What's more, the weakness of the case against Biden will make the indictments against Trump look all that much better.

[JesseAz]

Joe is more popular at this point than one other prior president. Jimmy Carter. Run with that.

[soldiermedic76]

Did impeachment make Trump more popular and help him win in 2020 or his party? How about the threatened impeachment of Nixon? How about Andrew Johnson impeachment? When evaluating a statement such as impeachment makes a president more popular, maybe look at all the evidence not just what supports your hypothesis. The volume of evidence seems to suggest that being impeached for corruption, ala Johnson and Nixon (if he had not resigned) hurts both the impeached person's popularity and there party at the next election. Oh and BTW which party won in 2000 after Clinton's impeachment again? Remind me.

[TrickyVic (old school)]

Farce?

I heard the same thing about Trump's impeachment inquires.

[Moderation4ever]

Yes, from the same people trying to impeach President Biden. The majority thought the Trump impeachment cases were pretty good.

[JesseAz]

Majority of whom? Democrats? Act Blue interns?

A whopping 67% of registered voters said they believe Hunter Biden selling access to his father is an impeachable offense for President Biden, according to new polling by Harvard University’s Center for American Political Studies (CAPS) and Harris, a firm run by Democrat Mark Penn.

https://www.iwv.org/2022/04/shocking-harvard-poll-67-of-americans-say-biden-should-be-impeached-if-hunter-biden-corruption-proves-true/

[JesseAz]

Roughly three-fifths of Americans believe President Joe Biden was involved in his son Hunter’s foreign business deals, according to a CNN/SSRS poll released Thursday.

https://news.yahoo.com/majority-americans-believe-unproven-allegations-191747694.html

[JesseAz]

A majority, 61%, say they think that Biden had at least some involvement in Hunter Biden’s business dealings, with 42% saying they think he acted illegally, and 18% saying that his actions were unethical but not illegal.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/07/politics/poll-hunter-biden/index.html

[TrickyVic (old school)]

""The majority thought the Trump impeachment cases were pretty good.""

In this case good is being defined as hearsay evidence by people who said they did not see Trump commit a crime when directly asked.

I'm sure any impeachment against Biden will be at least that good.

[EISTAU Gree-Vance]

“Gooooooood morning Vietnam!!!!”

Lol. Seriously, it would be a mercy killing at this point.

Not that that’s a bad thing.

[Kungpowderfinger]

It’s probably in FJB’s best interest to get as much podium time as possible between now and his probable impeachment.

Senility may be his best defense against whatever solid proof of corruption congress brings to light.

[The Margrave of Azilia]

A long and happy retirement to the President!

(but maybe without so much questionable income)

[Longtobefree]

Excellent, wonderful, marvelous; now pass the damn budget!

[raspberrydinners]

You really don't get it do you numbnuts..

This is the party of obstruction. Impeachment (to make their cult leader Trump look less bad because "oh the other guy was impeached too!"), not passing a budget, dancing around a default, etc.

This party has NO IDEAS. They have nothing but obstruction. Acting as if they'll do anything for the country just to GOVERN and not RULE is pure lunacy.

Maybe one day you guys will wake up. But I highly, highly doubt it.

[Mother's Lament]

Hey fucknut, your boy took bribes and sold influence. Trump was impeached for saying that LEA should really look into whether your boy was taking bribes and selling influence.

There's a difference there that you're too morally corrupt to recognize.

[Its_Not_Inevitable]

"They're not doing what we say. They're obstructing!"

[TrickyVic (old school)]

Do you have a problem with obstruction? Or just that it might be done to your party?

The dems did everything in their power to obstruct Trump.

[EISTAU Gree-Vance]

Awww, poor raspy is sour again.

I’ll take “NO IDEAS” over climate lunacy, divisive race essentialism, tranny nonsense and covid freak outs any day.

You’re an idiot.

[John C. Randolph]

Better late than never, but I have no doubt that the democrats will give Biden a pass like they did for that scumbag, bubba Clinton.

-jcr

[raspberrydinners]

The same Clinton that they couldn't originally find a single damn thing on then tried their damndest to find anything and just wound up with Lewinsky?

It was certainly improper but not even close to worthy of impeachment.

But fomenting an insurrection? Yeah, that was worthy. Too bad we have too many fascists who put party over country.

[bacchys]

You can grab 'em by the pussy, but don't get a blowjob.

[EISTAU Gree-Vance]

Well, you can talk about grabbin’ em by the pussy, anyway…

[Mother's Lament]

"It was certainly improper but not even close to worthy of impeachment."

You're absolutely right!

That's why he wasn't impeached for for a BJ but for lying under oath. Which of course you know but decided to lie about.

"But fomenting an insurrection? Yeah, that was worthy."

By fomenting insurrection, do you mean storming the Capitol and occupying the Speaker's Office? Because your guys did that again yesterday.

It's different when you do it though, right?

[Fats of Fury]

The Clintons were never charged with any crime. Fifteen other people were convicted of more than 40 crimes, including Jim Guy Tucker, who resigned from office.[55]

Jim Guy Tucker: Governor of Arkansas at the time, resigned (fraud, 3 counts)
John Haley: attorney for Jim Guy Tucker (tax evasion)
William J. Marks Sr.: Jim Guy Tucker's business partner (conspiracy)
Stephen Smith: former Governor Clinton aide (conspiracy to misapply funds). Bill Clinton pardoned.
Webster Hubbell: Clinton political supporter; U.S. Associate Attorney General; Rose Law Firm partner (embezzlement, fraud)
Jim McDougal: banker, Clinton political supporter: (18 felonies, varied)
Susan McDougal: Clinton political supporter (multiple frauds). Bill Clinton pardoned.
David Hale: banker, self-proclaimed Clinton political supporter: (conspiracy, fraud)
Neal Ainley: Perry County Bank president (embezzled bank funds for Clinton campaign)
Chris Wade: Whitewater real estate broker (multiple loan fraud). Bill Clinton pardoned.
Larry Kuca: Madison real estate agent (multiple loan fraud)
Robert W. Palmer: Madison appraiser (conspiracy). Bill Clinton pardoned.
John Latham: Madison Bank CEO (bank fraud)
Eugene Fitzhugh: Whitewater defendant (multiple bribery)
Charles Matthews: Whitewater defendant (bribery)

[Dillinger]

>>Webster Hubbell: Clinton political supporter; U.S. Associate Attorney General; Rose Law Firm partner

Chelsea's dad.

[gnome]

Poor old Hubbel - took two for the party.

[TrickyVic (old school)]

Chelsea looked a lot like Bill when she was younger. Wasn't a good thing.

[NOYB2]

You'd think Hillary would have the good sense to find someone with better genes for her children. I mean even Bill Clinton would be preferable to that guy.

[JesseAz]

Why did the Clintons settle with accusers if nothing was found?

[Pear Satirical]

The problem was not the affair, but Bill lying under oath (perjury) about the affair. Now, I agree he should never have been asked about that, but he still committed perjury!

[Foo_dd]

i guess the republicans learned nothing when they were crying about this being done to Trump..... this kind of thing does not actually hurt them anymore.

you don't have the votes to get him convicted. you won't gain any votes. he won't lose any votes. he can point to this act as one of dishonesty and nastiness and maybe actually pick up some independent voters from it. much as it delights the fringe of the base and helps fund-raise..... it is still stupid.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

i guess the republicans learned nothing when they were crying about this being done to Trump….. this kind of thing does not actually hurt them anymore.

It is literally the opposite. They learned MUCH.

[Foo_dd]

they learned the wrong thing. how to do it instead of why you shouldn't.

[Don't look at me!]

Lol

[DarrenM]

They should have learned they aren't allowed to investigate Democrats. Is that it?

[bacchys]

No, they learned nothing. MAGAts are stupid. They think they need to get them some of that impeachment stuff, too. They don't really understand what any of it means.

[Mother's Lament]

Quit socking Sarcasmic. You're not tricking anybody.

That internet-verified 140 IQ keeps shining through.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Lol, the guys with the defensive knife wounds on their arms are fighting back, what rubes.

[Anastasia Beaverhausen]

Hell, they learned nothing from when they impeached Bill Clinton.

[Truthteller1]

If you want to see unchecked madness go read the comment section of the NYT about this story. They are completely unhinged from reality.

[Mother's Lament]

I bet they sound just like raspberrydinners. Screaming treason and crapping their pants.

[raspberrydinners]

It's not enough this traitorous party tries to overthrow the government but now they're weaponizing it for party aims.

Fascists all.

"Do not take the decision lightly." Yeah, sure. Go on jackoff. One of the most feckless house leaders in recent times.

[Don't look at me!]

Sux when the shoe is on the other foot.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

It’s not enough this traitorous party tries to overthrow the government but now they’re weaponizing it for party aims.

That statement is what I call "Irony Clad"

[R Mac]

Is shitlunches a parody all this time?

[Michael Ejercito]

Sure sounds like it.

[bacchys]

MAGAt internal polling for '24 must look really, really bad for the MAGAts.

[Mother's Lament]

Why?

Also, are you insisting Joe is innocent?

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Polling doesn't matter. 2024 is... fortified.

[Mother's Lament]

Biden could run from the cemetery and Trump's VP could be the Buddha, but he'll still beat Trump by 500 million votes.

[RickAbrams]

You are discounting teh Pelosi factor. Her running again will greatly energize Alt Right. Worse yet, the center who would vote for Biden and for moderate GOP or Dems for Congress are now are more likely to vote GOP to stop Pelosi. Pelosi is rightfully the most hated politician in America and even thou she is from SF, the idea that she would return to the Speakership will guarantee that the House not only stays red but turns deep Red. There is a likelihood her running will so pollute the race, that enough moderates will also vote for Trump just in case the Dems should retake the House.

Also, since Biden is too weak to handle Pelosi, he is too weak to handle foreign leader. The war in Ukraine should never have started and had Biden not slow walked the aid, it would have been over by now, and Ukraine would be free.

[EISTAU Gree-Vance]

“Had biden not slow walked the aid….”

Yikes. You in the wrong place, bruh.

[Mother's Lament]

"had Biden not slow walked the aid, it would have been over by now, and Ukraine would be free."

You're looking for the National Review comments section, this is Reason.

[Liberty_Belle]

How much money are we about to spend on this debacle ? Even the GOP can't agree with itself on whether this is worth it or not.

[Fats of Fury]

All the sudden you're worried about spending?

[Longtobefree]

No worries; we can just eliminate the Department of Education (after passing the loan collection task to treasury).

[Moderation4ever]

And it appears even this is not enough to make some Republican happy. Kevin McCarthy should know that once you start ass kissing you never get to stop, there is never enough.

[Mike Laursen]

It all goes on the giant Federal credit card.

[NOYB2]

How much money are we about to spend on this debacle ?

Probably less than Biden has received in foreign bribes.

[JesseAz]

Man the Act Blue trolls are up in arms this morning.

[Mother's Lament]

White Mike lit the moonbat signal.

[RickAbrams]

Although the Dems will never admit is, they are primarily to blame for this turn of events. More specifically, Nancy Pelosi is at fault and other Dems like the weasel Adam Schiff are at fault for lacking the integrity to stand up to Pelosi. I am not a GOP. I was a Dem, but I de-registered and became an Independent primarily over the Dem's allowing a power mad psychopath trash the Constitution in order to advance her own career goals.

After explaining the growing danger that Nancy Pelosi posed to the nation, I wrote one summary article inn 2021. To make matters much worse, this craven, self-centered, avaricious power-monger, who is probably the worse politico in American history (Yes worse that TrumpyDoodle), is actually running again in 2024, making certain that Congress turns deep Red and Biden loses.

https://bit.ly/3oeksOG November 8, 2021, CityWatch, Nancy Pelosi is the Most Dangerous Person on the Planet, by Richard Lee Abrams

[charliehall]

That's ridiculous. Nancy Pelosi is just an effective politician. You just don't like her because she is so good at what she does.

[Pear Satirical]

Insider trading?

[NOYB2]

"You just don't like Goebbels because he's good at what he does."

[Mother's Lament]

“Nancy Pelosi is just an effective politician.”

Yes. Not too many politicians can parlay their position into an enormous fortune as effectively as Nancy.

[Michael Ejercito]

Speaker Pelosi certainly had the choice to tell Hillary Clinton to shut upabout about the whole Russian®™ Collusion thing.

The problem is, she was Pelosi. Gephardt would have done just that.

[Use the Schwartz]

Wake me when the ruling families start assassinating each other.

[NOYB2]

I'd guess the Clintons already have had some minor princelings that offended them terminated. Why wouldn't they?

[Leftshot]

Don't complicate this. The Constitution says that any official who receives bribes "shall be" removed from office. It's Congress' duty to remove Joe Biden from office.

Any member of Congress that does not vote to remove Joe Biden has broken their oath of office and neglected their duty as a member of Congress and thus THEY should be removed from office.

[Longtobefree]

What is this "constitution: thing so many mention here?

[Jerry B.]

Yeah. But you have to prove it, and since a large percentage of both the legislature and the general population believe in feels rather than proof, you’ve got a hard row to hoe.

[JasonT20]

Don’t complicate this. The Constitution says that any official who receives bribes “shall be” removed from office. It’s Congress’ duty to remove Joe Biden from office.

Right. They shall be removed from office upon impeachment and conviction for bribery. It is Congress's duty to weigh the evidence and decide accordingly. You seem to want to skip that part as if it is already proven to that standard.

[Longtobefree]

Well, after all, it does take four clicks to designate your default browser - - - - - - - -

A major impediment to changing from Google to something else.
Sort of like having to show identification to vote, a major violation of rights.

[Jerry B.]

Four clicks is too complicated for the average Democrat.

[Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland]

The right-wing JV reporter didn't chew that rubbish before regurgitating it. He must be auditioning for a spot in the press office of Marjorie Taylor Greene, Matt Gaetz, Lauren Boebert, or Donald Trump.

Carry on, clingers. But only so far as your betters permit.

[Don't look at me!]

It’s ok if the commander in chief takes bribes.

/Artie

[Jerry B.]

Clingers! Drink!

[Diarrheality]

Pissed that you were kicked out of the library for sleeping in the stacks again, Reverend? Did the librarian threaten to take your pruno as you stumbled chaotically toward the exit?

[EISTAU Gree-Vance]

It’s good that you’ve begun to accept that there will be another trump press office, rev.

Now if you could work on your fantasies of granting permissions…..

[William]

Should'a begun the impeachment inquiry over 2 years ago, when Joetard botched the Afghanistan withdrawal and left behind $80 million in military equipment --- clearly a grotesque dereliction as Commander-in-Chief. Since then, it's only gotten worse, and worse, and worse, with no bottom in sight.

[Michael Ejercito]

A commenter on Jonathan. Turley's blog called it aid and comfort to the Taliban.

[AT]

> McCarthy referenced revelations from pre-existing House committee investigations that he says deserve further inquiry in the form of an impeachment investigation. ... an impeachment inquiry will give House committees the powers they need to conduct a more thorough investigation.

*facepalm*

HEY GUYS. OUR INVESTIGATION HAS REVEALED THAT WE SHOULD INVESTIGATE SOME MORE.

Perhaps the results of our investigation will be a Surprise. Which may or may not occur in October 2024. We, the American Government, definitely do not think you are all stupid morons who can't see through this.

[NOYB2]

An official impeachment inquiry gives them more powers to subpoena and obtain documents.

And it's good that they are taking this step by step.

And, yes, they are timing this for maximum impact before the election. What exactly is your problem with that?

[AT]

I'm sick of Reality TV Politics.

I'm sick of politicized antics that distract us from the actual issues we should all be focused on. The Left attacks the Right, the Right screeches "witch hunt!" The Right attacks the Left, the Left screeches "witch hunt!" At what point to halfway intelligent people wise up and see that this is a game.

Ohmygosh, more subpoenas and documents? Well golly gee that changes everything. *eyeroll* We all know that none of this is ever going to go anywhere, and that it's all persecutorial in nature because one side wants to throw mud at the other and hope some sticks when it's voting time. Not that the vote actually matters, because even if they weren't rigging it, they long-ago changed the qualification for office from "merit" to "don't be the other guy." (Pay no attention to the fact that "the other guy" is little different from "your guy.")

That's not the nation the Founders intended. That's not how we get Representative Government. That's not American citizens taking their civic duty seriously.

That's Bread and Circuses. From a tight-knit bunch of elitists - both Republican and Democrat - who crave nothing but their own perpetual power and stature. And a cowardly, apathetic, lazy electorate just letting them do it, acting like their online posturing and their party-line voting "makes a difference."

You let me know when Americans give a damn about their vote anymore. Hint: if they're giving it to folks like Trump or Biden, they don't give a damn whatsoever.

[NOYB2]

I’m sick of politicized antics that distract us

It looks like the Bidens received tens of millions of dollars in return for policies on China and Ukraine that have caused massive harm to the US and you don’t want that investigated? Is there any crime the elites can commit that you aren't willing to excuse and overlook?

from the actual issues we should all be focused on.

And what “issues” would that be? What progressive legislation do you want our all-powerful federal government to pass now? Frankly, if this distracts Congress from “focusing on issues”, that’s a bonus.

From a tight-knit bunch of elitists – both Republican and Democrat – who crave nothing but their own perpetual power and stature.

Yes, and nincompoops like you make sure that these people stay in power, because all you want is for government to address your "issues" and you obviously don't care about any misconduct or malfeasance by those elites.
The probe

[JasonT20]

It looks like the Bidens received tens of millions of dollars in return for policies on China and Ukraine that have caused massive harm to the US and you don’t want that investigated?

Maybe it "looks like" the Bidens received tens of millions of dollars to harm the U.S. in the same way this looks like an alien.

[AT]

> It looks like the Bidens received tens of millions of dollars in return for policies on China and Ukraine that have caused massive harm to the US and you don’t want that investigated? Is there any crime the elites can commit that you aren’t willing to excuse and overlook?

And it looks like Trump schemed and directly orchestrated efforts to undermine public confidence, interfere with certifying, and ultimately delay/deny the results of the 2020 election in a desperate grab to retain power after he was voted out of office - ultimately leading to a violent riot and conspiratorial abuse of power using the pressure of the Presidency to compel a State governor to participate in a fraud.

Seems half the people only want one investigated, while the other half screech "fake news!" at even suggesting the other. And, even if we did take it all seriously, the results are pre-decided with each respective side screaming "Justice!" or "Persecution!" depending on their mindless partisan loyalties.

Like I said, it's all just a silly game. One in which there will be no accountability either way - but hey, it provides a nice distraction and foments that partisan divide, doesn't it.

> And what “issues” would that be?

The biggest one? Borrowing and spending. Which, you'll note, all of the clowns begging us to watch their goat rodeo LOVE to do without a second's hesitation. The legislators cling like vampires to their office by coming up with new ways they can bankrupt America with free money, and the president seems to never meet a spending bill he can't wait to put his name to (and that's assuming they go through the legislature in the first place).

That's both Democrat and Republican.

I'd take your mewling about "misconduct and malfeasance" more seriously if people like you were AT ALL interested in getting these people OUT of power. Instead, people like you make excuses for and overlook half of them and then fall into line like good little binary choice sheep to make sure all the same people remain IN power, even when you have better alternatives.

So, spare me the righteous indignation. That's not something partisans get to claim anymore.

[NOYB2]

Yes, Trump was not reelected after Democrats had the opportunity to make their case to the American people as part of widely broadcast impeachment processes. And now the same is happening for Biden. I don't see a problem.

As for your comments about borrowing and spending: the more time Congress spends on impeachment, the less time they have to pass new spending programs and authoritarian laws. But more spending and authoritarian laws is what you are really after, whether you admit it to yourself or not.

Any I'm not a "partisan". I just think you're an idiot.

[AT]

I'm not referring to Trump's impeachment(s). I'm referring to his criminal trials. Which are just as much a stageshow as a Biden impeachment, which will similarly result in absolutely nothing with no one anywhere being held accountable for anything.

So, what's the point? A nice distraction for everyone to get all worked up about across partisan lines, while a growing nanny/police state and a failing economy, voted for by Congress, continues unchecked. And then all those very angry but very stupid partisans go out and vote for more of the same.

You seem to think a goat rodeo will keep Congress so busy playing political theater with garbage Presidents that they won't have time to pass bad laws. Seems to me that YOU'RE the one looking to pave the way for spending and authoritarian laws, not really minding it so long as you get your impeachment entertainment.

Keep your bread and circuses coming, right?

[NOYB2]

So, in summary: you simply don't care about corruption or bribery in government, no matter how blatant, no matter the consequences. Heck, let's sweep it all under the rug and reelect the worst crooks in US history because you just don't want to be bothered.

You wallow in the self-deception that your ignorance and your contempt for politics and laws represents some kind of superior political insight, that you are above it all, when it is your kind of ignorance and lack of involvement that is responsible for people like Bush, Obama, Biden, Trump, McCain, and Hillary making it through the primaries.

As I was saying: people like you are the source of America's woes. You are the reason for "bread and circuses".

[AT]

You don't care about it either. You just want to be entertained, and phone in your vote.

[JFree]

It's become so easy for us to just fall into routines of stupefaction. We don't even want to leave the easy habits of joining in whatever tribal ritual gets kudos today .

Year by year it just gets worse. And I'm pretty sure everything here - online - is contributing to making it worse

[TJJ2000]

My gosh you leftards PROJECT like nobodies business.

The VERY reason it is a [WE] mob RULES party is because of Democrats and their [WE] mob RULES ‘democracy’ touting without any US Constitutional principle acknowledgement.

You and AT are here to project this “boaf sidez…/s” narrative just to PROJECT the Democrats blatantly well-deserved blame onto Republicans. Let me clue you in to something ‘AT’ actually enlightened everyone on mistakably. Trump didn’t want to “witch-hunt” Hillary over some piddly non-significant persecution. Yet here you two are blaming Trump for exactly what HE DID NOT do but for what LEFTARDS do constantly. As well as PROJECT constantly.

[AT]

Because Trump is a Clinton supporter. They're besties, you realize. Like, you KNEW that, didn't you? Wait, you didn't actually believe the little song and dance he did when he was running in 2016, did you?

Did you???

In the meantime, Leftard Trump IS, IN FACT, in full support of doing exactly what Leftards do: https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/trump-biden-impeached-republicans-quick-pile-101686845

Anything a Leftist does - from ballot harvesting to impeachment - expect Trump to advocate doing the exact same thing.

Because he's a Leftist. And you're a blind idiot if you can't see that.

[TJJ2000]

Needle in a haystack. You will let me know when Democrats start lobbying for De-Regulation committees. Open up free-markets (oil/energy). De-funds the EPA. Tries to kill Obamacare (Nazi-Healthcare). Allows State handling of COVID and establishes Justices who think government media-censorship is UN-Constitutional.

Until then take you TDS and stick it.

Frankly; I was against Trump during elections but he has PROVEN by his administration to be NOTHING like Demcorats or RINOS (better than most Republicans) in so many ways.

[Mother's Lament]

"We don’t even want to leave the easy habits of joining in whatever tribal ritual gets kudos today."

Big Chief JFree is always quick to condemn tribalism when a Democrat is caught doing something shitty.

[Uomo Del Ghiaccio]

Even though Biden deserves impeachment, I'm not holding my breath. Once news breaks on the case, Trump will be charged with an addition 100 or so crimes.

While I despise Trump, I despise what the power elitists are doing even more. Neither Trump nor Biden should be president and the power elitists should not be allowed to pull the strings of power to insert their puppet.

[NOYB2]

If we're lucky, they both drop out. Or at least, they will both be despised by everybody.

[ElvisP]

How about impeachment inquiry based on willfully allowing an invasion of our country by illegal aliens on our southern border?

[Sevo]

Yeah, but do you have access to a sitting VP?

[VULGAR MADMAN]

Everyone has had access to her.