Denmark May Ban Burning the Quran
A cabinet minister who once defended the right to blaspheme now wants a crackdown.

In 2017, then–Danish Prime Minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen proclaimed: "I'm proud and happy that we live in a country where we have abolished the blasphemy provision and where you're allowed to be critical—even in satire and cartoons—of religious symbols." Last week, however, Rasmussen, who is now the minister of foreign affairs, did an about-face.
The Quran burnings have become so bad, he said, that Denmark is "seen as a country that supports the insult and denigration of other countries and religions." In response, Rasmussen announced legislation "that will allow us to put a stop to the kind of insult and denigration we are currently witnessing."
The bill criminalizes the "improper treatment of objects of significant religious importance to religious communities." The prohibition marks a sea change in a country where no one has been convicted of blasphemy since 1946, and successive governments have defended freedom of expression following newspaper Jyllands-Posten's publication of cartoons depicting the prophet Muhammad in 2005.
The Danish change of heart can mostly be traced to Rasmus Paludan, an anti-Muslim bigot and far-right activist, whose favorite pastime consists of burning Qurans around the country. These Quran burnings have not only led to violence and terrorist threats from religious extremists but also concerted intimidation from the 57 member states of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC), which has worked to protect Islam from what they term "defamation" since the publication of Salman Rushdie's The Satanic Verses in 1988.
A plurality of Danes support the bill. After all, why should they risk terrorist attacks and economic sanctions due to the antics of a widely despised extremist whose ideas and actions are off-putting even to secular non-muslims? Many Danes feel there are better and more sophisticated ways to criticize a religion than torching books.
But it is precisely the tolerance of the most offensive ideas put forth by the individuals most despised by polite society that is the true measure of the civic commitment to free speech. Once you abandon principle for expediency, it establishes a precedent that incentivizes demands for further concessions.
Using violence and diplomatic coercion, religious extremists and the OIC have established that even in liberal democracies, religions and their followers are entitled to special legal protection that trumps individual freedoms. No doubt the Danish prohibition will form the tip of the spear in the OIC's global campaign to purge "blasphemous" content.
The effect of the Danish bill is not confined to the narrow circle of far-right pyromaniacs. There is a very real danger that it will lead to much broader collateral damage. Artistic and political expressions are not exempted.
Accordingly, the Danish-Iranian artist Firoozeh Bazrafkan risks going to prison if she persists with her performative art pieces that have included shredding, whipping, and branding the Quran as a protest against Iran's theocratic regime. The Spanish artist Abel Azcona would also risk arrest if his work "Jihad 191" was exhibited in Denmark. The work consists of 191 Qurans smeared in blood, a reference to the 191 victims of the 2004 Al Qaeda bombings in Madrid.
It's not just criticism of Islam that would be criminalized. American artist Andres Serrano's (in)famous work "Immersion (Piss Christ)," featuring a crucifix immersed in the artist's urine would almost certainly be punishable. Heavy metal artists like Behemoth and Marilyn Manson, who have desecrated Bibles at concerts, might also find that performing in secular and liberal Denmark is too risky. Which is quite ironic given that Behemoth lead singer Adam Darski was acquitted for blasphemy in Catholic, conservative Poland after he tore the pages from a Bible during a concert.
There is little hope that the European Court of Human Rights will provide a shield against the Danish bill. The court has long held that expressions deemed "gratuitously offensive" to religious believers can be restricted. In 2018, the court decided that Austria did not violate the right to freedom of expression of a politician fined for calling the Prophet Muhammad a pedophile, since - according to a widely accepted Hadith—Muhammad consummated his marriage with his wife when she was 9. The court has also upheld restrictions of artistic films deemed overtly offensive to Christians. One "The Love Council" ridiculed God, Jesus and the Virgin Mary, the other "Visions of Ecstacy" graphically depicted the revered Spanish Saint Teresa of Ávila touching and kissing the crucified Christ in an erotic manner.
Denmark's surrender to violent extremists and states that imprison, lash, and execute "blasphemers" is a disturbing sign of the free speech recession that is sweeping the globe in the 21st century. One can only hope that the First Amendment will continue to serve as inspiration to liberal reformers across the globe in a world where free speech is in fast retreat.
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When I was living there, the only people burning anything at protests were the middle eastern immigrants, burning effigies of the Israeli Prime Minister and the US President.
I suspect that the demographics of Denmark have changed sufficiently to enrich this about-face.
When I was there, the muslims were protesting, usually, something about Israel, and occasionally, the fact that their mosques did not receive the same state funding as the Lutheran Church of Denmark (the state church).
Also, as a quirk of Danish culture, they referred to every muslim or person of middle-eastern descent as 'Turks'. Didn't matter whether they were from Syria or Egypt or Iran. 'Turks'.
That is probably a throwback to a few hundred years ago, when The Ottoman Turk Empire was the predominant Islamic power. Thomas Paine made reference to "the Turkish Church."
You're likely correct with regard to the Ottomans, I just thought that it was a funny linguistic anachronism, given how sensitive we are about it in most of the Western world. And the Danes are generally reluctant to cause offense - they're nice people.
To my ears, it sounded similar to calling everyone from China / Mongolia / Korea / Singapore / Etc . . . 'Orientals'.
Don't want to cause offense occidentally.
They prefer the more dignified term "Saracens."
It's a short walk from banning the burning of a book to burning blasphemers at the stake.
I never have an urge to burn a Quran until someone threatens to harm me for doing so.
At which point my desire to light up and take my chances goes sky high.
Why waste the paper? Supply Korans to every bathroom. Moslems are free to use their left hand instead. Remember that every time a Moslem hands you anything.
Denmark's surrender to violent extremists and states that imprison, lash, and execute "blasphemers" is a disturbing sign of the free speech recession that is sweeping the globe in the 21st century.
The MAGA cultists in the comments have been discussing this since 2014.
Jacob Mchangama has been discussing it longer.
So Reason's been selectively ignoring the commentariate *and* Jacob Mchangama for years!
And Salman Rushdie and Ibn Warraq have been discussing it for even longer.
Plus or Minus one Koran ass wipe.
I hate to make water on the fires of freedom, but I believe that (thanks to Soviet pressure IIRC) the UN "political and civil rights" treaty contains these gems:
"Article 20
"1. Any propaganda for war shall be prohibited by law.
"2. Any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence shall be prohibited by law."
https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/international-covenant-civil-and-political-rights
I presume the Russians and third-world regimes put this in so that they could have a "civil rights" excuse for political repression.
But now these attitudes are infecting the West, which has an international-law basis for practicing the censorship they wanted to do anyway.
(The U. S. ratified that treaty with a "reservation" preserving the 1st Amendment - you'd think a treaty needing such a reservation probably shouldn't be ratified at all.)
you’d think a treaty needing such a reservation probably shouldn’t be ratified at all.)
I agree. Additional SCOTUS has ruled that a treaty can not invalidate the Constitution. Boos v Berry touches on the topic at hand. Case centered around protesting outside embassies - SCOTUS ruled in favor of the 1A over a treaty requiring host countries to protect embassies. DC had banned signs critical of a country from being held anywhere close to said countries embassy.
When the subject of Second Amendment and other constitutional protection against invasion was broached on Austin's Live and Let Live, nobody paid atteention. But when the debate reached Physics today years later, nobody was eager to try to ban or infringe Strategic Defenses against incoming nuclear weapons--not after reading the Second Amendment. Ask Hirohito (https://bit.ly/3Tm8cu6)
+1 kamikaze school bus driver from Hell in Pittsburgh!
This was brought up in a1 documentary I saw on TubiTV called Islam and the Future of Tolerance.
The Soviets, the Islamic Bloc, and the Third World Bloc in the UN also in the 1980s supported licensure for media to prevent it from reporting on the Kleptocracy that went on with aid to Third World development programs. Fortunately, the U.S. threat under Reagan to withdraw from UNESCO put a stop to that.
Reagan did one thing right, along with hundreds of wrongs.
After all, why should they risk terrorist attacks and economic sanctions due to the antics of a widely despised extremist whose ideas and actions are off-putting even to secular non-muslims? Many Danes feel there are better and more sophisticated ways to criticize a religion than torching books.
Wait, what? You stole a fucking island of bases there. What exact economic sanctions is Denmark facing for not bringing Paludan and/or Quran burning, under control?
I don’t doubt that there would or could be sanctions any more than I doubt that there would or could be terrorist attacks but Holy Shit why would you tease and then dodge that 800 lb. gorilla in the room?
They probably don’t want one of their embassies burned down like with Sweden. It is a religion of peace after all.
The US Embassy in Pakistan was burned down back when the "new" Mohammed and his myrmidons took over the Grand Wazoo in Mecca on Carter's watch. U.S. diplomats in Iran were promptly kidnapped on the theory of... um... er... maybe one of the girl-bullying mystical sockpuppets can explain the derivation. Volunteers?
Trudat!
Dear Reason, this Jacob kid may be the only libertarian you have on staff so do your best to keep him around ok?
It is something that the implication is that the speech of a "right wing anti-Muslim bigot" is only worth protecting because not doing so would put the speech of left wing anti-Christian bigots in peril.
Welcome to the new dark ages. It's been a hell of a long time since Europe enforced any actual blasphemy laws.
Ackshuyally, Italian Journalist Orianna Fallaci was prosecuted for offending Muslims with her writings...and the law that Muslims used was a law against desecration of religion that was still on the books from the time of Mussolini.
To Mother's Lament if reading: (So much for Mussolini's Fascism being Atheistic, right?)
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Authoritarians of various stripes have been happy to co-opt and cynically exploit religions for a very long time. Whether or not they actually believed a word of it was a lot less important than whether it could serve their interests and help legitimize their rule. Even Stalin eased up a bit on the Russian Orthodox during WW II because conscripted peasants didn't really give a shit about international proletarian solidarity but they were a lot more motivated to defend God and the Rodina.
And, of course, religions themselves can be cynical exploiters and cynical exploiting powermongers gravitate to them.
I keep trying to tell Mother's Lament et al. about Stalin to no avail.
It's strange that Putin had suddenly become a Greek Orthodox Catholic.
Putin's bizarre concept of religious freedom includes giving respect to Al-Qu'ran and forbidding it's lampooning and desecration.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch_trials_in_Denmark
If you want to know who holds the power, figure out who you’re not allowed to criticize.
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>>A plurality of Danes support the bill.
misspelled cowards.
The Danish change of heart can mostly be traced to Rasmus Paludan, an anti-Muslim bigot and far-right activist, whose favorite pastime consists of burning Qurans around the country.
I don’t recall any Reasoners characterizing the guy who created piss-Christ as an anti-Christian bigot and far left activist. As so often happens though the passage of time proves those the left ridicules to have been correct all along. Other examples include racial discrimination for favored minorities coming from affirmative action and Obamacare being a justification to restrict people’s freedom in their name of lowering health costs, among hundreds of examples.
You might think eventually Reasoners would notice this and express some level of skepticism about the lefts moralists assertions, but no their own bigotry seems to prevent that step toward enlightenment.
Anti-Christian bigotry is OK because Christians, by and large, do not get violent.
On the other hand, violence against non-Muslims and opponents of Islam is an intrinsic part of Islam.
Plus they vote Democrat, because Republicans treat them like would-be terrorists. So even Democrats like them, despite their extremely anti-woke views.
Ackshuyally, Andres Serrano, the artist who created Piss Christ is a Catholic Christian and meant no blasphemy by his work.
Piss Christ--Wikipedia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ
I don’t recall any Reasoners characterizing the guy who created piss-Christ as an anti-Christian bigot and far left activist.
Probably because he wasn't any of those things.
You might think the Danes of all people would be familiar with the saying that once you pay the Danegeld you're never rid of the Dane but you would be mistaken. Obviously they still believe that if you feed the crocodile he'll eat you last.
Where do I find an online petition opposing the Danish enactment of this blasphemy law?
Where do I join an online boycott of Danish products?
Just don't eat that Danish with your morning coffee.
And those dry butter cookies in the round tin pans. They aren't good anyway.
I'll have your portion, albeit only one at a sitting, since I'm Type 2 Diabetic.
They originated in Austria. I'll let you decide if that's any better.
You know who else originated in Austria?...
Funny you should mention that. Opponents of Islamic terrorism against Danish media over Muhammad cartoons in 2005 actually encouraged purchase of Danish products to counteract Islamic boycotts.
I remember I bought Danish Ham, Danish Baby Back Ribs, Royal Dansk Christmas Cookies, and Danish Wedding Cookies to support the Danes in their struggle.
Somehow, I don't think boycotting Danish Ham and Danish Baby Back Ribs will adversely affect Isoamofascists. The petition is a better idea of the two and I would sign as well.
I'm an anti-atheist bigot. So what book should I be burning to rile them up?
Try this one:
https://paperage.co/products/paperage-blank-journal-notebook-mint-160-pages-medium-5-7-inches-x-8-inches-100-gsm-thick-paper-hardcover
That is a nice notebook, but if someone buys one and burns it, they only advertise their own stupidity. Just don't burn mine and we're good.
Which sect of Atheist? The old-fashioned Spaghetti Monster kind? Or the new-fashioned earth-worship socialist true-believer kind?
Speaking as an Atheist Libertarian, no book that anyone else owns and burns will rile me to violence.
A book or anything else I own-- including my body and brain--is another story.
At that point, all will be revealed, including believers' questions on life after death.
"The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins
Or you could go to libraries, borrow this book, and instead of returning it, replace it with "The Dawkins Delusion" by Allister McGraffe (I think that's his name).
Note: That's illegal, and I'm not saying you should do that. Burning your own copy of the book is also effective, and it's safe and legal.
So much for God as a basis for moral and ethical behavior. Looks like somebody needs watching to do right.
While Richard Dawkins says many wise things on both Atheism and his scientific specialty, he is not Gospel on all subjects for me or other Atheists.
Abrahamic Theists have one Good Book but disagree on whether it is The Torah, The Holy Bible, or Al-Qu’ran.
Atheists, however, can have many Good Books, as varied as they are as persons and as ever-expansive as human literature itself.
Since devout atheists seem to disagree on everything, it doesn't appeal to me as a serious religion.
Don't worry, it's not a religion, serious or otherwise, though there are religions such as Buddhism, Jainism, Quakerism, and Unitarian-Universalism that allow Atheism within their membership.
In any event, Atheism is still here to explore and embrace if you want and there's no punishment, eternal or otherwise, if you don't.
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You seem to be operating under the incorrect belief that most atheists can read.
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Says the man who can't spell "Atheist" with a capital letter like other views on Philosophy and Religion and who doesn't post anything even remotely legible.
Not to mention the live-action Dr. Clayton Forrester who never succeeded in breaking his captives on The Satellite of Love. Small wonder the Love Theme to MST3K sounds so triumphant.
Christian National Socialist soldiers marched unresisted into Denmark on a platform that said "We demand freedom for all religious denominations... as long as they do not endanger the state or violate the ethical and moral feelings of the Germanic race." So caving to another bunch of mystical bullies is maybe par for the course?
Indeed. And The Christian National Socialists and The Wickedly Great One also had a soft spot for Islam and their Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels also hired The Grand Mufti Haj Amin Al-Husseini to broadcast praises of Nazism and incite Muslims to expel and exterminate Jews in Islamic nations.
Please keep up that lucidity, Hank.
'A plurality of Danes support the bill. After all, why should they risk terrorist attacks and economic sanctions due to the antics of a widely despised extremist whose ideas and actions are off-putting even to secular non-muslims?"
Because then we would think they are pussies. And so would the militant Muslims who will more eagerly pursue taking over Denmark.
Everyone is scared of Muslim extremists except the US, who are scared of some domestic terrorists, but not others.
Perhaps, just perhaps, atheists and homosexuals have a rational and reasonable basis for being “bigoted” against the Quran, a book that literally calls for their deaths? Just a thought.
Very true, though the response I give below would be most effective at exposing the ugliness of Al-Qu'ran in a fire-safe manner.
Oh, and don't get stuck in an Islamic version of Stepford. They not only include the territory of Officially-Islamic and majority-Muslim nations, but also Hamtramck, Michigan, Holy Islamville near Clover, SC, Islamberg in the Katskill Mountains of New York, and other communities scattered throughout the U.S.
Turning the other way when you see a Halal restaurant or food store would be a good travel safety pro-tip.
+1 whatever. It doesn't involve myself.
If you are a Kuffir (Unbeliever,) it will involve you eventually if the Jihad comes your way.
If it doesn't spread beyond a fire-safe area and become arson against the persons and property of others, anyone has a right to burn any book or anything else they wish, out of protest or any other reason.
That said, the worst thing any protester can do against Abrahamic and other religious "holy books" would not be burning, but to actually read them out loud to passers-by. Here's a good place to get the text for three of them, plus Christian Apocryphal Works:
The Skeptic's Annotated Bible/Qu'ran/Book of Mormon
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com
Does Denmark even know their own history? Danes used to burn down whole cities, and take what they wanted. Now they're worried what people might think of them?
I have never been a fan of provocative "symbolic" speech as distinct from speech that conveys specific information or ideas. Thus I strongly supported legality for the ten Muhammad cartoons (still legal in Denmark), but thought SCotUS got the flag-burning decision wrong.
On that basis, I think Denmark is correct to curb exhibitionist Qur'an burning, that brings only trouble, not enlightenment. Sweden's first Qur'an burning this year (Jan 21, in front of the Turkish embassy), was funded by a journalist Chang Frick with ties to Putin. The obvious purpose was to incite Turkey to keep blocking Sweden's admission to NATO.
Burning books or flags or whatever falls into the category of "I don't think it's a good idea, but I don't think it should be illegal." Any principled defense of free speech has to include protecting the speech of assholes. Otherwise you're just deciding how much you're willing to surrender today. And you will be asked to surrender more.
Why should anyone else give a shit about what you are a fan of? Burning a flag or a book harms no one. People who react to such actions with violence are entirely responsible for their own actions. You seem to be basically saying it's OK to criminalize hurting people's feelings.
The Quran hurts my feelings. Can we ban it?
The Quran advocates killing me. Why shouldn’t I be allowed to burn it or desecreate it any way I like?
Would you also prohibit burning “Mein Kampf”, a book that, if anything, is less violent than the Quran?
It's still a best-seller in Russia.
>The Quran burnings have become so bad
How about instead of just going straight to, "ban it!" you maybe ask why Quran burnings have become so bad.
Or... maybe there's an answer there you don't want to hear? Maybe a conversation you don't want to have about a subject you're remiss to question (let alone invite criticism)?
A pal on an Atheist Forum brought this funny possibility up: What if you burn a copy of Al-Qu'ran, The Holy Bible, or another religious text onto a CD-ROM or DVD? Does the ban on burning cover that? Hmmmmm...
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