Can Republicans Fix Student Debt?
Unlike Democrats, Senate and House Republicans have released proposals that would actually tackle the root causes of increasing student loan debt.

As a long-awaited Supreme Court decision on President Joe Biden's massive student loan forgiveness plan looms, Senate Republicans have unveiled a plan of their own to address the nation's climbing student loan debt burden. However, instead of promising blanket forgiveness, the Senate Republicans' plan aims to reform how student loans are given out in the first place—seeking to direct students toward high-quality programs and limit access to schools that provide a poor return on students' investment.
The plan is composed of five separate bills. Three of the bills focus on ensuring that prospective borrowers are aware of the financial tradeoffs of taking out student loans and the financial outcomes for alumni of specific institutions. The last two tackle the federal student loan system itself, cutting down the number of repayment plans and limiting the circumstances in which federal student loans can be given out.
The first bill in the package focuses on increasing transparency from colleges. The bill seeks to require colleges and universities to provide a wide range of data on student outcomes and enrollment trends to the National Center for Education Statistics, which would create a database of this information aimed at helping prospective students make informed educational decisions.
The proposal's second bill would require colleges and universities to use a standardized financial aid offer form in order to maximize transparency around the true cost of attending a given institution. The third bill in the proposal has similar aims, requiring that students applying for federal student loans receive information detailing sample payments for their loans, as well as how long they would expect to be paying off their student loans, and what income they can expect to make after graduating from a given school.
The fourth bill cuts down on the number of repayment plans available to borrowers. The bill would consolidate the host of current repayment options down to two—a standard 10-year repayment plan and a Revised Pay As You Earn (REPAYE) repayment plan with minor changes. The REPAYE plan is an income-driven repayment (IDR) plan, which currently allows borrowers to pay a monthly amount fixed to their income, achieving forgiveness after at least 20 years of payments.
Importantly, the fourth bill also cuts off access to federal student loans for students attending programs that do not result in median earnings higher than those of adults who only have a high school diploma—or a bachelor's degree, in the case of a graduate program.
The final bill in the package would eliminate Graduate PLUS Loans—a type of federal student loan whose borrowing cap was removed in 2006. The removal of this cap has been directly connected to a rapid increase in graduate school tuition, as—unlike for undergraduate programs—graduate students were able to borrow an unlimited amount from the federal government, incentivizing universities to jack up prices.
Notably, House Republicans have also introduced their own legislation aiming to reform federal student loans. Their proposal would provide "targeted" student debt relief to those who have consistently made payments but have seen their debt increase anyway. The proposal would also reform existing income-driven repayment plans and mandate considerable warnings for borrowers before student loan payments resume in October.
"Colleges and universities using the availability of federal loans to increase their tuitions have left too many students drowning in debt without a path for success," said Sen. Bill Cassidy (R–La.) in a Wednesday statement. "Unlike President Biden's student loan schemes, this plan addresses the root causes of the student debt crisis. It puts downward pressure on tuition and empowers students to make the educational decisions that put them on track to academically and financially succeed."
The Republicans' plans offer a constructive solution to the problems that plague the federal student loan system. Rather than focusing on short-term solutions—like Biden's $400 billion student loan forgiveness boondoggle—Republicans' plans target the sloppy government policies which directly cause rising student debt.
In particular, the Senate's attempt to eliminate Graduate PLUS Loans and both plans' proposals to reform income-driven repayment plans take direct aim at some of the most fiscally irresponsible federal student loan policies.
While both bills face an unlikely path toward actually becoming law, they provide a clear template for what a sensible response to the student loan crisis looks like—and policies that are actually likely to lower the cost of college, not raise it.
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are students borrowing money for school not the root cause of increasing student loan debt?
No, that is the proximate cause, not the root cause. Students would not borrow (or at least, borrow so much) but for the dysfunctional incentives built into the federal loan system. The fact that there is "but for" is evidence that you're not yet at the root cause.
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Incorrect. There is no "but for," unless you claim that "but for getting their sorry arses to work for a living."
I agree with Rossami. It's good that one of the goals of these bills appears to be to increase the amount of information given to potential student borrowers before they sign the paperwork. You're talking about 17-20 year old kids in many cases, who are signing themselves up for decades of indentured servitude without realizing it.
I know in my case, they just shuffled you off to the Student Financial Aid office, had you fill out one or two government forms that took a few minutes, and then the only 'advice' you got from the 'Advisor' was to take out the maximum amount allowed, even if you didn't need it for tuition.
They never suggested that you explore other options for funding, and they CERTAINLY never mentioned the Scholarship & Grant office, which was almost completely empty the few times I visited, and was conveniently located all the way across campus from the Financial Aid office.
That office had a veritable catalog of various endowments and scholarships and grants available to students, left by alumni donors, and all you had to do was apply. Most of them went unclaimed each year, because the administration did not promote them. And why should they? Unclaimed monies sit in the University Endowment Fund, which, last I checked, had grown to a few billion dollars.
ultimately I think both ^^ of your well thought-out and reasoned responses are correct, although cart before horse in the most pragmatic sense ... students could not borrow money they'll never be able to pay back for schooling they don't need - or in your case explore the campus first 🙂
I type that as I still owe, but mine was necessary lol
Sure, but nobody is telling them that. In fact, pretty much every one of them is going to get the advice that they must go to college or their future is already over.
Yes... See how housing skyrocketed when government started playing in that mortgage market. Everything the 'Socialists' touch goes to sh*t. The USA was never meant to have government as a banking industry.
Clearly you have not read the memo. The little dears are not responsible for their decisions!
No, Federal Reserve Notes are. In the 1960s, my sister paid her own tuition and books, while living at home, and working part time. For $1.60/ HR. We were still on the gold standard.
The gold standard? Really? As far as I know, the warnings of the gold standard folks have failed to materialize. Pointing out that education costs have outstripped wage growth and claiming it has anything to do with the gold standard isn't supportable.
No, I would say that the root cause of increasing student debt is people like the President of the United States saying that everyone in America should get a college degree; that people who have a college degree earn more in their lifetimes than people who don’t have one; that higher education represents a path out of poverty; and that if you can’t afford to pay for a college education, the Federal Government will grant you loans to eliminate the unfair barrier placed in your way by heartless capitalists. A secondary effect of the artificially created increasing demand for higher education is the increasing price (supply and demand, remember?) and increasing loan totals before you can graduate. Another secondary effect is increasing background inflation rates from increasing government deficit spending and – voila! – a perfect student loan program storm.
And the constitutional power for such a loan program is...? If it's FYTW, then Republicans should be good enough to say so.
That goes without saying at this point.
Absolutely! 10000+; Republicans should stop tip-toeing the Socialist line and get tough on insisting it be eliminated and the US Constitution restored.
SHUT THE NAZI-EMPIRE DOWN!!!
That's my thinking too, the constitution doesn't grant the federal government the power to lend tax dollars to anyone, not students, not businesses, not home purchasers. Get our government out of the lending business. And the insurance business too. Our federal government can't even do what it's actually allowed to do well, all of the businesses it's running just lose money.
the constitution doesn’t grant the federal government the power to lend tax dollars to anyone,
It's unclear. Congress has the power to "provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States" and an expansive reading of "general welfare" would encompass such a grant.
No. Not it doesn’t. That’s a bullshit argument. It has nothing to do with the federal government’s enumerated powers. Case closed.
“general Welfare of the United States” ………….. And where else in the entire Constitution does it use the NOUN “United States” to refer to the people??????????? HUH? HUH?
I’m so sick of that BS word manipulation and deception. EVERY F’EN where in the Constitution the NOUN “United States” refers to the National Government (i.e. The feds) —- That is it’s NAME and that is what that means. There is no question about it.
I mean for F'Sakes. It's a phrase within the Taxing Clause... Does the "Common Defense" also include giving everyone a Tank for Christmas??? Give me a break with this stupidity.
Read the 9th and 10th amendments to the constitution and get back to us, and stay in Europe with that bullshit.
You guys can WEF and ESG yourselves to death if you like. We don't need to.
Just ban farming and make people stay within 10km of their houses. Go ahead. I want to see how this ends.
While the feds should just get the hell out of education from k to grad school (the true root cause). This sounds like some good mitigating that could potentially get passed.
Agreed on both points. It's not the best solution, but it is a step in that direction at least.
I can't imagine that the university academic and administrator class is going to be thrilled with any of these bills, and that's a good thing.
I can already hear the grievance studies crowd yelling its racist...to tell kids how big a scam those degrees are.
"The average graduate of our world renowned Grievance Studies department graduates with $500,000 in debt and earns $20,000 per year as a barista."
"Until she gets elected to Congress"
Five bills?
And the damn scam will still be with us?
Bullshit.
New bill:
Section one: the student loan program is hereby terminated.
Section two: Payments on the existing loans will be paid as agreed for the next five years.
Section three: after the five years, all remaining balances will be paid off by the endowment funds of the college(s) that received the loan funds.
So simple. How about this for section three. After 5 years the borrower us still liable for all principal, but the education institution is liable for all interest.
How do students go to college based on your section one? Not everyone can work 3 jobs? Just curious.
What about mortgage can we get rid of that too?
It would be up to the universities to come up with business plans that do not rely on exorbitant tuitions. They used to be able to do that.
Nothing forbids banks and schools making their own loans.
Other than the fact that they know student loans for Bitterness Studies majors are a very bad risk.
"Other than the fact that they know student loans for Bitterness Studies majors are a very bad risk."
So the market continues to function and we end up with fewer whiners penning crap for tax-payer funded NGOs?
Win, win, WIN!
Don't go to college.
Get good grades in high school and earn scholarships.
Join the military and use the GI Bill later.
Do like my friend in high school; have 3 paper routes and work all summer the last four years of high school, and let ROTC pay for your last two years of college and for your masters.
(yeah, no paper routes for kids these days, but the concept is there)
F*** the military and F*** the Pentagram!! Stop fighting wars for Pissreal.
Go to a trade school, learn a real, marketable trade, instead of learning how to load a howitzer. Besides the military is a woke mess.
Welding, HVAC, auto tech,plumbing, electrical, A&P and even pilots.
I would never advise my kids to enlist in the military.
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Would you please run for President?
I’m glad to see some thought being given to modifying the horrible student loan structure we have now. The bills requiring transparency would be useful.
As others have mentioned from time to time, the real solution is to get the federal government out of the loan business. Make the colleges/universities responsible for advancing the funds that their students need to enroll. If the student doesn’t complete the program or can’t pay back the loan, then that’s a loss for the university. Who else is better able to evaluate the financial value of the degree program that’s offered, and the likelihood that the student will successfully complete the program and get a job that allows for payback of the loan? It would also encourage the university to support the student who is having difficulty.
And of course the student should be free to get a loan from any other source if they think it’s a better deal.
And make student loans dischargable in bankruptcy. That will really incentivize lenders to look at the programs borrowers are going into.
Nevermind. Wrong thread.
I see two things you might call wrong with student debt.
1. Students acquiring the debt have a mindset that they are not obligated to pay it back.
2. Students ignoring the amount of debt they are acquiring only to be surprised how much they owe.
3. Students going to college for things they never needed to go to college for.
Are you talking inflated credentials, or are you talking political indoctrination?
Yes
Fix the debt? Easy peasy.
1. Student loan holders will pay what they borrowed according to the terms of the loan. Defaulters can pay in kind. Lots of potholes to fix.
2. Immediately terminate all federal student loan programs.
You are bringing logic to a Demunist emotional issue. You will be cancelled.
If they would just reverse the meddling that they did with making student loan un-dischargable in bankruptcy, the problem would take care of itself. Lenders would have to actually make sure that borrowers could pay back loans. But this would cut off the government funds to their cronies.
Yes, making student loans dischargable under bankruptcy (instead of "forgiveness" programs) would be the most valuable reform they could enact, and would ensure that affluent borrowers who can afford to pay off their loans would not benefit from "forgiveness".
If student loans could be discharged through bankruptcy, every student would so declare, as soon as they finished their schooling.
They would be under a large debt, would be unemployed, at the time, and would have no prospects to repay that debt.
The seven years, to regain their credit, would be worth it at such an early time in their lives.
"If student loans could be discharged through bankruptcy, every student would so declare, as soon as they finished their schooling."
Some folks didn't bother giving thought to the moral hazards here such as you did.
Good luck finding a judge who will go along with that. They don't hand out bankruptcies like circus tickets.
hmmm… maybe judge shop as is done all the time. Find a nice socially aware Dem appointed judge. who better to go to if you’re looking to get circus tickets than from a clown that works in the circus?
That meddling came about largely BECAUSE the government was subsidizing loans (Sallie Mae), then later tightened further BECAUSE the government became the lender. The government was smart enough to realize that they were handing out money to people with no collateral, and trying to keep interest rates low. The best way to accomplish that was to not let people skate through bankruptcy.
Until government got in the game, student loans were high-cost because of the danger of default and/or bankruptcy and the fact that they are basically signature loans. The interest rates needed to operate that market were too high, so the government stepped in to try to make things more "fair".
Which brings us to where we are now.
It's a step in the right direction.
Colleges jack up tuition because it's easy money. They don't care about their students. Tell them directly what it will cost, is a step in the direction. Now, if the school wants to keep their 1000 admins that is up to them.
I do like the school has to show stats. Maybe this will stop some from getting a 'how does a strawberry grow' or 'how many genders are there degree'. Get a real degree.
There are lots of options out there. The smarter students already go to a community college for core classes than a major for final.
I do agree the school should also be on the hook for the debt.
Now, let the Dems crying begin "they are victims"; "they aren't responsible for what they signed" - same as car loans, house loans, and debt.
same as car loans, house loans, and debt.
The big difference there is that no one is giving 17- and 18-year-olds mortgages and big car loans—because it is recognized that they are not mature enough for that. Most high school kids really don't understand what they're doing when they sign up for student loans.
So they can't understand terms of a loan, but can chose a gender and get chemical and surgical treatment without parental involvement?
Step 1: Restrict any and all forced financial assistance/underwriting to the hard STEM diplomas.
Step 2: If the person does not make enough money to start paying off a bit of the principle each month at 12.5% or less of their income within 10 years then they are restricted to paying off the principle while the educational institution they attended pays any and all interest until the loan is paid off.
Be fair. We could lend students money with a cap based on earning potential of their declared major.
Nope, because then the educational institution will run the government mandated numbers and hit the absolute limit to the maximum possible needed to charge through books and classes for the shittiest education. By forcing them to pay carte blanche so long as the major is within the accepted categories, it minimizes the graft on the university side since the more they charge for any class that helps qualify for the accepted major including any electives the more likely they'll have to pay it back.
I don't suppose [WE] should have any say; unless [WE] are ***VOLUNTARILY*** funding it. [WE] gangsters out committing ARMED-THEFT on everyone; and then pretending they can dictate where their STOLEN money goes is exactly what's wrong in this Nazi-Infested nation.
Without making a judgment for STEM to the exclusion of others...
Charge student loan interest rates commensurate with the unemployment rate per major. STEM majors would tend to pay 1-2% rates, while gender studies would be paying 12% or more.
Also, a lot of student loan money is not even spent at educational institutions. Money is borrowed to fund a luxury lifestyle at near-campus resort-like apartment complexes.
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"the fourth bill also cuts off access to federal student loans for students attending programs that do not result in median earnings higher than those of adults who only have a high school diploma"
Yet another example of abuse of statistics and epidemiology to support questionable government interference in private matters. Setting aside for a moment the fact that Government student loan programs and guarantees are the CAUSE of outrageous cost increases, the myth that college graduates earn a higher lifetime income than non-graduates relies upon a reversal of cause and effect which this law will not correct! It may be true that Art History majors are unlikely to earn more than they would flipping hamburgers during their lifetimes, but if you abuse statistical analysis by lumping engineering graduates with Undewater Basket Weaving baccalaureates you will dilute the effect and undermine your goal.
It also seems impossible to implement fairly.
Which 'adults who only have a high school diploma' should be the reference set? Those of the same age? Same number of years of experience? Same location? Same industry?
It also reinforces the myth that the purpose of a college education is to get a high-paying job. That is not the purpose of a four-year degree. That is the purpose of trade school. The purpose of a four-year degree is to become an enlightened critical thinking citizen who also specializes in a certain field, and because of that, commands a higher salary in the marketplace.
The purpose of a four-year degree is to become an enlightened critical thinking citizen
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Edit: I forgot emojis don't work on Reason.
This law (as I understand it) does the precise opposite of that.
"Programs" in this case means "degrees". i.e.: "The CS program", "the ME program", etc. Engineering would very specifically *not* include underwater basketweaving.
Fair point and I didn’t make it clear what the abuse of statistics was in this proposed law. There are many, many other factors that contribute to the “lifetime earnings” besides that degree itself. Also there is a concept in the analysis of cause and effect called “confounding” – in this case having a degree and earning a higher than average lifetime income may both be caused by another factor (personality, family of origin, intelligence, etc.) or the degree may be partially causative, and so on. The reversal of causation in this mythology is more subtle: just because people who have college degrees earn more on average during their lifetimes (if it’s true) doesn’t mean that giving a degree to everyone will increase everyone’s lifetime earnings. If all the available higher-paying positions are already filled with college graduates, the next college graduates to come along may not find positions at higher wages. And finally, recruiting for the higher-paying positions may be filled by college graduates due to resume inflation; in other words the job may not have required a college degree but lots of graduates were applying for the job so lazy HR's narrowed down the applicant workload by weeding out the non-graduates - even some who might have made better employees in the position.
If you are independently wealthy, then yes, major in art history. But the pathetic thing is the leaders of these colleges acting like they are helping the poor to become wealthy when are giving loans to people that can’t repay them. Enough already!
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Make all student loans interest free. That would go a long way to helping.
Your education is letting you down.
You assume that steaming pile of lefty shit got what you and me might consider and "education".
Better we just cleanse the left fro this country so we can fix things.
You’re the problem.
+1000000000000..... Exactly. Arrogant selfish-pride in thinking gangland politics and armed-robbery makes them masters of the universe.
They're still just all POS armed criminals hiding behind government guns. Seriously; just take notice to how many times a day the leftard pretends they are masters of slave labor. Once the party of slavery; still the party of slavery.
I see no alternative. The only thing that might really make a difference is if an Article 5 convention got off the ground and ,add meaningful changes to the constitution. But even then, the federal government, and many democrat states are now almost completely lawless.
I agree; It'll probably come down to what's left of the 2nd Amendment if saving this nation from the [Na]tional So[zi]alist - Empire ever does occur as much as I hate that being the last option. Lefty-Tyrants don't seem to have any desire for Liberty or Justice by any means.
Lazy shits still wouldn't pay off their loans.
Have the college backstop them..solves the problem today and tomorrow.
All of these proposals seem worth considering.
Glad they are engaging in actual policy discussions.
here we go again..complex "solutions" that don't solve anything and allow the well connected who have grifted off this system to continue to grift and use that money to push cultural marxism.
Easy solution..a college has to backstop 50% of any federal insured student loan. Solves the problem of tuition and mismatch of majors/skills/placement into a job that allows the kid to start a live while paying off the debt.
This seems like a good plan, the question is will it be supported by Republicans. Can the Republican House members take a break from culture wars and billionaires as victims long enough to look at this idea.
Question, how many of the get rid of student loan commenter above are past college and so no longer care what happens to students?
The bills were written by Republicans.
The question is whether the communist in the LieCheatSteal party will give up their socialist tendencies and support it.
I think your reply shows why the plan will get little support among Republicans. Why work when you can just name call and that alone makes your supporters happy.
Why not just thin the ranks of democrats and until they are reduced to a more manageable level?
Maybe we're against the current student loan program BECAUSE we care what happens to students.
Or maybe like Judge Smails (Caddyshack) you think, "The world needs ditchdiggers too!"
It does. And why should those ditch diggers pay for kids to take degrees where they are indoctrinated into Marxism and hatred towards America. All while learning nothing of use? Better we get rid of your fellow travelers and fix things.
Actually as I've gotten older I realize Judge Smails was pretty much right about everything. Thugs deserve the electric chair, some people who have values or behavior which is degenerate don't belong...he really was the hero of the story. There needs to be a natural peaking order of betters and lessors need to know their place and accept it. The NBA is a perfect example of what Judge Smails was taking about..mertiocracy in it's finest regardless of race, creed, or color.
So basically, your fellow travelers at all levels made a horrible mess of things, but now you need these icky fuck up Republican hicks to fix everything for you.
Does that about cover it?
No, I want a Republican party that addresses real issues. There are plenty out there that need attention. If you believe that competition yields the outcomes, then a competition of ideas is needed. I am not looking for a Democrat idea or a Republican idea, I am looking for a good idea.
No, you’ve demonstrated over many years that you are nothing more than a democrat thrall. And any solutions coming from republicans will be disparaged and resisted by you and your fellow travelers.
Why not just admit it?
Why not admit it, because I don't think it is true. What I would like is for the Republican party to return to a party of ideas, rather than one in awe of a personality. If you read my comments, I have advocated for middle of the road ideas, not the clap trap of either parties extremes. I have never advocated for free post-secondary education but rather improving a system that provides students with a return on investment for the time and money spent. My education improved my lot in life and I would like to see that for others.
I see ideas in the Republican plan that will move to the goal I have suggested.
There are no guaranteed returns on real investments.. and ones that are provided to students are not returns on investments [other than investments on bought politicians] but are just bribes by politicians.
Have the colleges backstop 50% of federal insured student loans..you will get the behavior changes you wish. Colleges will drop tuition, get rid of all that admin overhead they added the last 30 years, ridiculous useless majors (all social "science" would be a good start)...and focus on job training and placement. Like they should.
How many ACTUALLY paid for their past college education instead of sucking the blood of the working people while partying their *sses off without a care in the world like leaches???
Which goes hand-in hand who even bothered to look at the F'En price and do price comparison before hand. The whole system is setup so people don't give a F about price. So of course the system is going to suck up just as much as they want.
The very side-effect of using Gov-Guns to make sh*t. They're not making sh*t; so why do they care? It's all at someone else's expense until one day someone else's gets fed up and then you enter the zero-sum resources game followed by genocide and collapse. This isn't rocket science.
I managed to get my finance and accounting degrees while borrowing less than $20k. Which I repaid in full over 15 years ago. That loser wokies get to take Marxist studies in the grievance arts on the taxpayer dome is bullshit.
I paid for mine and I paid for my children's education. I was raised by parents that valued education, even though they had only finished high school. I value education and believe it will improve the lot of every person.
Do you think allowing them to use Gov-Guns to STEAL their education from those 'icky' people "will improve the lot of them"??
Here in the land of [WE] gangsters have a ?right? to anything [WE] gangsters think [WE] want??? Gangster Armed-theft for the WIN!
Because if you really cared about 'education' as you keep pretending too - you probably should care enough not to be teaching an armed-robbery success training career.
The fact is (by the very point in tail of your initial comment) you don't give a Flying-F about education. All you care about is Gov-Gun stolen *FREE* sh*t.
Here's an idea; SCOTUS rules that [Na]tional So[zi]alism is UN-Constitutional and restricts the federal/National from functioning as a Socialist government.
“Can Republicans Fix Student Debt?”
Make the slackers pay up, perhaps?
The government should be out of the loan business. Let the schools or banks make loans, and if they get stiffed, it's their problem, not the governments.
These are unsecured loans, unlike when one borrows to purchase a house or a car, that can be repossessed if payments aren't made.
Not to mention the loan is going to an 18 year old, with no income, and four years until being able to even begin repayment.
A real lending institution would set such loans' intertest rates at a level that would make credit card interest rates look cheap.
set such loans’ intertest rates at a level that would make credit card interest rates look cheap.
That would just result in more defaults.
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Another restriction on student loans should be that the money go only to the college, for tuition, and not so that the student could be paying for room and board.
If you need to borrow the money for schooling, it should be somewhere that is close enough for you to remain living at home.
The concept, that college is an opportunity to begin to experience what it's like to be away from your parents, has been taken, by colleges not making kids live as though they are in the real world.
When an institution can make their students not be held responsible to legal authorities, for such things as sexual assault, widely interpreted, they are not providing the experience of living in the real world.
That's the reason college "dorms" have been upgraded to resemble resort hotels. Today's students would say "hell no" to the accommodations students lived in when I was a student in the 1970s.
"Another restriction on student loans should be that the money go only to the college, for tuition, and not so that the student could be paying for room and board."
That would be a terrible disadvantage to students in rural communities. Even a tiny state like Delaware, where 2/3 of the population live within a out an hour of UD, would have 1/3 who couldn't take advantage of college loans. Now imagine someone living in West Texas or Alaska.
There's no reason for taxpayers to subsidize students living at places like "The Knox".
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Here's a thought. Eliminate the federal guarantee of student loans completely and instead provide a reducing amount of aid to community colleges since they offer a solid education at a fraction of the cost. The reason college prices keep going up is because they can -- due in large part to too much easy federal money/loans.
Fuck yeah! The Senate plan seems to hit all the important elements.
Collect data so the value of a school's education is defined by a clear standard and the market value of the diploma, not what the school's PR department can spin. Betsy DeVos, Universoty of Phoenix, and most of the for-profit colleges will hate that, so it's pissing off the right people for the right reasons.
Standardize financial aid forms so everything is an apples-to-apples comparison, lay out how long and how much the loan will cost, and present a fair estimate of expected income **from that specific school** instead of letting shitty schools talk about the general income advantages of a generic college education when they know no employer will pay that rate for their shitty diploma-mill degree.
I'm less psyched about dictating repayment plans to those offering student loans, but this is excellent: "Importantly, the fourth bill also cuts off access to federal student loans for students attending programs that do not result in median earnings higher than those of adults who only have a high school diploma—or a bachelor's degree, in the case of a graduate program.". If the school doesn't give you better income and job prospects than the education level below it, you can't get a loan to go there (looking at you, U of Phoenix). How many veterans did UoP scam into spending their GI Bill money on worthless degrees? Fuckers.
Finally, eliminating a type of loan that is basically a slush fund for graduate schools? Hell, yeah. It's yet another example of how un.etered subsidies skyrocket prices.
Holy shit, Senate Republicans! Market based solutions? Accountability? With no culture war bullshit added in? I don't know why you suddenly decided to go back to fiscally responsible, market-based, data-driven policies, but I love it.
Keep up the good work! Resist the urge to backslide if this doesn't pass. A party that acts like this could dominate, long term, if you can keep focused on the important things and not the id-driven rage monsters in your midst.
This is a Republican party that reasonable people can get behind.
Any plan that complex will be compromised by the folks enriching themselves with the current system. Better to just force any college accepting a federal student loan to backstop 50% of it...the behaviors you desire will occur. Admin will be cut, useless woke departments will be axed..diversity departments let go...
Well I got 2 kids that have graduated college in the last 10 years.
One went through undergraduate school.with very little.debt,.two years of Jr College, and then one year at a major University and then she got accepted to a top ten graduate Pharmacological.
program after her Jr. year. Then she racked up 6 figures of debt.
But she got a job making over 100k almost immediately out of school, although she decided to work in a hospital rather than a drug store even though Walgreens and CVS pay more than hospital pharmacists. She's getting close to having her loans paid off now.
My youngest son just graduated in computer science virtually debt free, I actually had to talk him into taking on some student loans explaining. to him "your better off graduating owing 10,000 and have 7000 in the bank than owing 3000 and having nothing in the bank. Gives you a.lot more flexibility and a reserve in case you need it." He thanks me for the advice now, because he put all his savings into Etherum and tripled it, and I'm totally pissed because I told him not too but he did it anyway.
No on needs to fix student debt. People should pay their loans. If you can’t afford college, don’t go. Get into an apprenticeship program or go to a tech schools. We need more plumbers, electricians, auto mechanics and the like more than we need more lawyers, MBA’s or 8 year college educated baristans anyway.
Yours is an argument for never loaning money to anyone regardless of the reason.
"If you can’t afford college, don’t go." -> "If you can't afford it, don't do it."
People take out loans to do things, in large part for many of them, because they think (or trust when they have been told) that doing the thing will make the loan payments affordable and then some.
While I am all for reforming this clearly broken system, there is something else that is being overlooked here. Back when I was in high school, many schools had AG departments and also offered shop class.
Students have been made to "incorrectly" believe that the only path to making good money is by attending and graduating from a 4-year college/university.
We need to get back to encouraging our youth to dip their toes into the vocational/technical trades as well as 2-year college programs and certifications.
I speak from experience as I am a graduate of a technical college and am earning a 6-digit income. It all started when I took shop class back when I was in high school (this was in the early half of the 80s).
During my time in technical college, I learned how to network computers, install, configure and even troubleshoot network equipment.
I also learned in technical school how to write programs in C language, which helped me to get my first job creating supervisory control and data acquisition systems for the energy industry to monitor and control (real-time) systems as well as electrical power monitoring.
A lot of folks who graduated back then and earlier benefited greatly from getting vocational/technical diplomas or Associates level degrees and the cost to attend those schools are FAR less expensive than a 4-year program.
Seems a bit complicated. Why not end federal student loan programs and all loan guarantees? Let the banks make their own decision about to whom to lend. You might still find them willing to lend to an engineering student, but less inclined for a gender studies major.
Pay your debts.
Wow, that wasn't hard at all.
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In the fairy-tale land where Gov-Guns can manage finances...
I wonder if my hot-air popcorn popper can balance my checkbook. /s
Hint, hint: The idiocy lies in the assumption a 'gun' is a tool with "financial management skill". Because if there is no need for gun-force then there is no need for 'government'. That is the only 'tool' in governments toolbox.
^ ChatGPT generated garbage.
"a sensible response to the student loan crisis looks like"
1) Make them dischargeable in bankruptcy.
2) If corporations desire certain skills have them pay for it. Do their own training, sponsor programs, sponsor full-ride scholarships. With internships going to students in earlier and earlier grades corporations are already trending this way, so encourage them to keep going.
3) Fund state and multi-state schools so that they are high quality, cheap, and have sufficient seats for everyone interested.
Simple, and doesn't involve manipulating the social sphere - i.e. trying to drive people to make decisions that you favor, or giving them a Hobson's choice that you favor.
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I'm afraid #3 is an oxymoron.
That's the same as letting tax payers hold the bag. No way.
This problem was caused by colleges and universities granting useless degrees. Those educational institutions should be held financially liable, the same way as any company who engages in false advertising and fails to deliver a product that works as advertised.
Public sector unions make that impossible. How about we simply abolish public universities altogether?
They were dischargeable in bankruptcy. But when the federal government started subsidizing the loans to try to bring interest rates for them down, the government removed that option. When the government became the actual lender, they made it harder.
If student loans were dischargeable, the interest rates would be a lot higher (like they were before the government took over).
Why the hell is the government in the student loan business to begin with? Just get rid of the program period.
[Na]tional So[zi]al[ism] of course...
Or if you prefer the abbreviated term: US Nazism.
Brought to you by the Democratic Party who likes to hide from their Nazi intentions. "Fifty years ago, President Lyndon Johnson signed into law the Higher Education Act of 1965 and established the US federal government as the primary provider of financial aid."
Just as they have Nazified medical, housing, labor and energy.. And still growing the Nazi-Empire more and more everyday.
Because it "wasn't fair". The calling card of Marxists everywhere.
When I was in school the "coolest" thing we had was a bowling alley where about 1/3 the lanes were constantly broken. The upside was my tuition was the lowest in the state. I worked two jobs in school and graduated debt free. Now my former college has fancy gyms, rock climbing walls, name brand food franchises, and the list goes on and on. The kids complain about college debt. Well you know country clubs cost more than schools. If you don't want to accrue ridiculous debt...tell the school administrators that you are there for an education not a country club retirement. Either way I don't want to pay for all of the amenities for these spoiled rotten kids with my tax dollars.
There is a very easy fix for the "student loan crisis": let students who can't get a well-paying job sue the universities that granted them their degrees for damages.
I guarantee you, this crap would stop within less than a year after the first court decision.
Why do you think that a student could win such a case? With hundreds, if not thousands, of counterexamples of students who got great jobs right out of college, the evidence would seem to point to a failure by the stident, not the school.
It depends is the issue....kids who majored in engineering at a State college do pretty well. Kids who majored in gender studies who are not well connected (NYC liberal wealthy types) and went $200K in debt at some private university are screwed.
Again the solution is to make colleges backstop 50% of all federal student loans..that would solve the mismatch between tuition and majors that can provide real employment.
Yes, down the line, forcing colleges to simply assume student loan risk is the solution.
Looking backwards, students should be able to sue non-profit universities, the same way they could sue for profit universities under Obama.
I seriously doubt that there are a lot of gender studies graduates with "great jobs". But this would indeed be something for the university to demonstrate.
Furthermore, if the student was performing poorly compared to their classmates, then the university should be able to document that through grades and evaluations. If the student graduated, then presumably the university claims that the student fulfilled the requirements of the course of study.
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Make the colleges backstop 50% of all federal insured loans.
That will solve the tuition and mismatch of majors and market skills needed to get employment at a pay level to pay the debt back.
We had a good system, kids could go to school, work a bit, and graduate without debt. The bills and laws increasing "help" increased debt. Whose bills were those, Republicans or Democrats? That "help" had the unintended consequence of increasing college prices, increasing student debt? I don't know which party broke the well working system, but that is the party that needs to fix it, and throwing even more money at it will not fix the problem.
Also the Democrats have the Senate and Presidency, and as we saw with the parental rights bill they can not get anything done by themselves. Why is reason harping on the Republicans, when the Democrats have most of the power?
A lot of this started because of that slimy scumbag, Bill Clinton and his idea of advancing education. So what have we profited from all this? Just take a look at every single college and university except a few, the rest are woke neo-Marxist pig stys and the kids learn nothing except how to kick and scream.
So instead of obtaining a degree with a useful purpose, one that has a marketable quality, instead, get a degree in Hospitality, Gender Studies and Creative writing. Useless unmarketable university degrees are the second worst thing to happen.
The American people should not be responsible for paying off their debts and no one in Washington should even consider it.
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