Florida Doubles Down on Anti-Competitive Car Dealership Law
Automobile dealers say the law will preserve and protect the "competitive nature" of the business, by removing their competitors.

This week, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed H.B. 637 into law. The bill, which goes into effect July 1, bans most vehicle manufacturers from selling their products directly to consumers. Instead, automakers must continue to rely on franchised dealerships to act as middlemen. Florida already banned most automakers from selling directly to consumers; H.B. 637 affirms the ban, with some carve-outs.
The new law is a bad deal for consumers, and it's a bad deal that exists across the country.
Virtually all states have some form of law keeping automakers from selling directly to consumers or operating their own dealerships. That's why even if you go online and pick out a car on the manufacturer's website, you typically can't get it delivered to your door the way you would with nearly any other product; you have to contract with a local dealership, owned by a third party, to facilitate the transaction.
The Florida law is a boon to dealers, who overwhelmingly favored it: The Florida Automobile Dealers Association (FADA), which was involved in drafting the legislation, released an issue brief in February supporting the bill. It cited up-and-coming electric vehicle (E.V.) manufacturers like Tesla and Rivian that threaten the franchise dealership model: Tesla owns all of its retail locations, while Rivian has none.
But notably, the bill would not ban direct-to-consumer sales entirely: Lobbyists working on behalf of Tesla negotiated a carve-out in the bill that would allow automakers currently selling that way to continue to do so, while legacy automakers would be forbidden.
"As new EV companies have entered the marketplace, some legacy manufacturers have begun to mirror their programs," the FADA brief cautioned. While noting that Florida dealers do not oppose newcomers that sell directly to consumers, "legislation should make it clear that a legacy manufacturer (a manufacturer that has an independent dealer network) may not own, directly or through a commercial entity, a dealership nor sell direct-to-consumer." (Other states have floated similar laws without carve-outs: In March, the Mississippi Senate approved a bill that would hold E.V. manufacturers to the same franchise dealer rules as other automakers. Tesla and Rivian would have to build brick-and-mortar dealerships just for the privilege of selling to Mississippians.)
FADA insisted the bill is necessary to "protect the competitive nature of the franchise system." It further claimed, "The franchise system has always driven prices down for the consumer," and dealers "offer every advantage of the direct sellers" while remaining local. FADA lobbyist Dave Ramba told Florida Politics, "The attempt by auto manufacturers to cut out the dealer would only result in higher prices and less customer service to the public."
This is nonsense. True competition would involve welcoming as many competitors as possible. Dealer protection laws don't make the car-buying process better for buyers—most people, especially younger buyers, don't enjoy having to go to a dealership and haggle over prices. And experts hate it, too: "The argument that adding a mandatory layer of costs between the manufacturer and the consumer will reduce consumer prices has no basis in economics," according to a 2020 letter signed by dozens of economists and law professors. "Nor do arguments that dealers are necessary to advocate for consumer interests in obtaining recalls or warranty service make any sense."
The Federal Trade Commission has also determined over the years that dealer franchise laws "harmed consumers because they caused motor vehicle prices to rise" and "insulate motor vehicle dealers from competition from automotive manufacturers."
As with any other product, the market should decide the best way to buy and sell a given product. Since the dealership model is increasingly outdated, dealers turn to state law in order to retain a competitive advantage.
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Florida exempts Tesla from the franchise law.
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As I asked on another thread, what is wrong with direct-to-consumer sales?
And the answer is, nothing, unless you're an existing dealer in need of regulation to preserve your profits.
This is a really easy one.
I can see how a dealership franchisee might be a bit miffed with having to compete with the company he is a franchise of, along with all the other franchises of that company and the others. Though that sounds more like a contractual issue than one a government should be making law about directly.
McDonald's own some of its restaurants but the franchises don't care
They actually do.
And for decades have been in a push-pull relationship with McDonald's corporate to make sure the company stores aren't bleeding franchise business or moving into established market territories.
Exactly how it should work with contractual civil matters, of course. Piss off the franchisees and you get a franchisee revolt, which is a bad look for the entire brand. Violate the franchise agreements and they'll take you to court.
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Once upon a time, when we used to ride dinosaurs to school, uphill in the snow, both ways... the dealership model was a way to prevent manufacturer monopolies. Stop the manufacturers from undercutting their downstream retailers, or setting up a tied system were manufacturers owned the retailers.
But what we got instead was a dealership cartel. It's no better for the consumer. And the manufacturers still control the dealerships to a large degree. Discounts depend on jumping through the manufacturers hoops. Existing manufacturers WANT the dealership system. It's the new kids on the block, the Teslas and Rivians and such that these laws are meant to keep out.
So it's monopoly all the way down.
Six of one, half dozen of the other, 1/24th of a gross of the third.
Dealers pick up and drop new manufacturers all the time. Ford-Family dealers become Ford-GM-Chrysler dealers, Mercedez-BMW-VW become Mercedez-BMW-VW-Porsche-Honda auto groups all the time. Of course, none of them can pick up Tesla even if they're selling and servicing more EV systems than any Tesla... store is... not servicing... within 100 miles.
If your business is non-competitive, go open a different business. Don't be a welfare queen and demand protection from Uncle Sugar.
Shame on DeSantis for supporting this. The Left calls him a Fascist and in fact this was precisely the kind of thing Mussolini did.
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Yeah I remember when Mussolini kept in place the exact same fucking auto cartel law that had been around for a century when he came to power. This is so similar it's eerie, shreek!
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Section 230 applies to all. The only flaw is that the companies should make public what type of site they are operating and be held to that in court.
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dealer groups are some of the most wealthy people in many states
trigger warning, PDF:
https://www.wispolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/State-Laws-on-Direct-Sales.pdf
The above is not to suggest the Florida be "let off the hook" but to merely point out that this problem, such as it is, is pretty comprehensive.
Here are the Private Corporation Association libertarian cowboys that push for these laws, if any of y'all are curious who's on the other end of the phone when these laws are written.
Yup. DeSantis is awful but a lot of other state governors, including Andrew Cuomo, signed similar bills into law. New York once had manufacturer owned dealerships in Manhattan because it was too expensive for normal rich folks to buy the land to build a dealership.
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“The attempt by auto manufacturers to cut out the dealer would only result in higher prices and less customer service to the public.”
Imagine that! Cutting out the middle man raises prices!
My economics study has much to learn.
ETA: The "less customer service" lie brings up another point besides prices in favor of getting rid of dealers: honest mechanics and home repair. Manufacturers would find it a lot harder to force customers to get service from them without dealers. Even if they had manufacturer repair shops, if people didn't have to know where it was to buy the car, they'd be less inclined to search it out for even warranty repairs.
ETA: The “less customer service” lie brings up another point besides prices in favor of getting rid of dealers: honest mechanics and home repair.
The TOS on your internet-connected car won't allow that. Welcome to freedom.
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Duh. But at least Chevy gives you the original parts first, admits it when they don’t, keeps replacements in stock, and doesn’t void the shit out of things if you go somewhere else for OEM parts.
Not to mention that, IMO, the only thing worse than haggling with car dealers is haggling with "honest mechanics".
I have had several honest mechanics work on my cars. A choice, even.
Not so much with dealers.
They're like barbers for penis-having people. When you find a good one, you stick with him and stop shopping elsewhere.
At 17, I hit a railroad spike in a truck. An, per the video, by reputation, good, honest mechanic* (no quotes) had a replacement wheel and tire on the next day. I don't know if he got busy or distracted or tired or what but 5 mi. down the road, at about 50 mph, I nudged the car back towards the center of the road. The right front tire rolls out in front of the truck and off into the ditch. Coasted to a stop. Put the spare on using the 3 spare lugs and limp the rest of the way home.
Good and honest enough to give a full refund on the parts and service, and I'm not saying a dealer or "corporate" mechanic wouldn't have made the same mistake. I'm just saying "honest mechanic" is and always has been more of a myth than a reality to me.
*In a community where most people send their family vehicles to him because they're too busy maintaining and rebuilding farm equipment to deal with the family vehicle.
Also, the local dealer, where Mrs. Casual went to HS with the family members who now run the operation, has their name all over the HS’s local sports complex, from the jumbotron and press box to the entry gate to the covered pitching/batting cages. Mr. Whatsa Torquewrench was never in a million years, even if he provided 100.00% impeccable service, going to be providing that magnitude of standard service to the community.
Sounds more like forgetful or too-busy mechanic than dishonest.
That's why I said "(no quotes)" and tried to be clear that he honestly accepted the mistake. Like I said, I'm not indicting every honest mechanic everywhere, just pointing out that the lone/honest/independent mechanic > corporate/franchise/dealer mechanic dogma is in no way inviolate.
IMO, it's like the early days of the internet in the "fair and balanced reporting" era. Multiple sources, including yourself, are required to triangulate the truth/solution to any given problem. Relying on "your guy" is like relying solely on Fox News or CNN for your political info.
But notably, the bill would not ban direct-to-consumer sales entirely: Lobbyists working on behalf of Tesla negotiated a carve-out in the bill that would allow automakers currently selling that way to continue to do so, while legacy automakers would be forbidden.
So the bill changes nothing in the status quo. GM, Ford, Chrysler, Toyota, et.al. decided long ago that they did not want to do direct sales.
There also is not a lack of competition. Dealers compete with each other and with personal sales of used vehicles.
If anything, it seems to loosen the law somewhat for companies which do not have existing franchise dealership networks.
I could see the compromise position that the manufacturers need to buy out the franchisees rather than opening competing franchises but that's not what's being argued.
Not all competition is the same you dom twats.
Not all competition is the same you dom twats.
True, but Reason has a terrible habit of saying 150 ship yards or franchises or whatever competing against each other is a "monopoly" when it suits them and pretending that the top 5 players constituting 95+% of several markets, all obviously colluding, are just private businesses making choices and you should quit whining about market forces and build your own competing business when it suits them.
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Crony capitalism is the best capitalism.
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One of the big beneficiaries of these no direct sales laws is Berkshire Hathaway. It owns 102 franchises.
https://www.berkshirehathawayautomotive.com/
DeSantis probably considers Charlie Munger and Warren Buffett to be woke. Munger and Buffett are laughing at him all the way to the bank.
In the interest of equal time, Munger and Buffett also benefit from the stupid policies of progressives. The progressives have gotten to be quite effective at blocking oil and gas pipelines, often with the help of NIMBYs who are conservative on everything other than the use of Big Government to "protect" their perceived lifestyles. Berkshire Hathaway owns the largest railroad in the US, BNSF, and freight railroads use tanker cars to carry crude oil, natural gas, and refined petroleum products all over the US -- at higher cost and generous profit. Munger and Buffett have even more reason to laugh all the way to the bank, this time laughing at people on the opposite side of the political spectrum from DeSantis.
If you could manage to contain your raging hard on for Buffett for even one post you'd be able to hide your socking a little bit better, shreek. Too bad you're too fucking autistic to keep a lid on your tics.
Politics at it's worst.
Desantis needs business support since he kicked Disney in the nuts. So he signs legislation that has no measurable affect on Florida consumers. The legislation inflames the mindless wannabe journalism, but that's about it.
This legislation will be kicked to the curb when necessary, but right now it doesn't impact anybody.
Desantis is just keeping the dinosaurs happy - but they're still going extinct.
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At one point, there were over 53,000 car dealerships in the US. Today, there are less than a third that many. Let the rest go out of business if they can't compete with direct sales.
When I buy a new computer, I can go to my local computer store, my local Big Box retail store, a big national internet retailer, or the manufacturer itself. There aren't a lot of local computer stores around any more but it doesn't seem to have harmed the economy.
On the other hand, think of how sad you were when Toys R Us closed up, shreek.
How/why’d it get this way? Why'd other types of business not get this way?
Tesla is the dominant manufacturer of E.V.s and should thrive or at least survive in competition with the legacy vehicle manufacturers.
Rivian is a failed start-up. Their creditors might scrape up a few pennies from the IP.
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What in the actual fuck.
These car dealer carve outs are so pervasive nationally, why single out Florida/De Santis?
You're slipping, 'reason' -- you didn't find a way to blame this on Trump. Or is DeSantis close enough for government work?
But notably, the bill would not ban direct-to-consumer sales entirely: Lobbyists working on behalf of Tesla negotiated a carve-out in the bill that would allow automakers currently selling that way to continue to do so, while legacy automakers would be forbidden.
So is the bill pro-electric and anti-gas, instead of anti-consumer?
The law was anti-consumer before, and it hasn't changed this for most cars. It changed the law only where it was most vulnerable to political and legal challenges. So a bad law was preserved for over 90% of the cars sold by giving a carve out for "new manufacturers", which pretty much means Tesla.
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