Stewart Rhodes Gets 18 Years After the DOJ Reiterates a Conspiracy Claim That Jurors Rejected
It remains unclear whether the Oath Keepers leader had a specific plan to violently disrupt the electoral vote count on January 6.

A federal judge in Washington, D.C., last week sentenced Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes to 18 years in prison for seditious conspiracy, obstruction of an official proceeding, and tampering with records. The New York Times says Rhodes was sentenced for "the role he played in helping to mobilize the pro-Trump attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021." It adds that the sentence is "the most severe penalty so far in the more than 1,000 criminal cases stemming from the Capitol attack."
Contrary to that gloss, Rhodes' role in the breach of the Capitol, which forced a delay in the congressional ratification of President Joe Biden's election, remains unclear. Rhodes was at the Capitol grounds that day, and during his trial a federal prosecutor described him as "a general surveying his troops on the battlefield." But unlike other members of his group, he did not enter the Capitol or participate in the violence or vandalism. Notably, the jury found him not guilty of conspiring to obstruct an official proceeding, a puzzling verdict if he did in fact direct his followers to assault the Capitol.
The Justice Department's sentencing memo, which recommended a 25-year sentence for Rhodes, said he and other Oath Keepers "led a conspiracy that culminated in a mob's attack on the United States Capitol while our elected representatives met in a Joint Session of Congress." It also said Rhodes "led a conspiracy to oppose by force the lawful transfer of power following the 2020 U.S. Presidential Election," a vaguer description that better fits the facts that the jury accepted.
Prosecutors urged U.S. District Judge Amit P. Mehta to take into account acquitted conduct in punishing Rhodes, as federal sentencing rules allow, and hold him responsible for the actions of his co-conspirators. They also recommended a sentencing enhancement based on "terrorism," defined as conduct "calculated to influence or affect the conduct of government by intimidation or coercion, or to retaliate against government conduct." Although Rhodes "did not engage in violence," the Justice Department said, his rhetoric inspired others to do so.
Based on evidence cited in the sentencing memo, it is clear that Rhodes saw violence as a legitimate response to what he perceived as a stolen election. "We're very much in exactly the same spot that the founding fathers were in like March 1775," he said during a conference call after the election. "Patrick Henry was right. Nothing left but to fight. And that's true for us, too. We're not getting out of this without a fight."
Rhodes was more explicit a December 14 open letter to Donald Trump that was posted on the Oath Keepers website. "If you fail to act while you are still in office," he wrote, "we the people will have to fight a bloody civil war and revolution."
Rhodes reiterated that sentiment in chat group messages that day. "Trump has one last chance to act," he said. "He must use the insurrection act. Unless we fight a bloody civil war/revolution."
In Rhodes' fantasy, the Oath Keepers would rise up after Trump invoked the Insurrection Act, which authorizes the president to call upon "the militia" to suppress "any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy" that "opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws." If Trump "doesn't use the Insurrection Act to keep a ChiCom [Chinese Communist] puppet out of the White House," Rhodes warned, "we will have to fight a bloody revolution/civil war to defeat the traitors."
In a December 19 exchange with a member of the Proud Boys, Oath Keeper Roberto Minuta described Rhodes as "pretty disheartened." Based on a conversation with Rhodes the previous night, Minuta added that "he feels like it's go time" and that "the time for peaceful protest is over in his eyes."
In a series of messages to an Oath Keepers chat group on December 25, Rhodes complained that Trump's advisers were "acting as if his only option is to hope Congress does the right thing." He said that was "extremely unlikely," adding, "I think Congress will screw him over. The only chance we/he has is if we scare the shit out of them and convince them it will be torches and pitchforks time is they don't do the right thing."
Such rhetoric was not enough to persuade jurors that Rhodes specifically planned the attack on the Capitol. In arguing that Mehta nevertheless should assume that Rhodes did have such a plan, the Justice Department noted that he had described January 6 as a "hard constitutional deadline," which it said confirmed "the group's knowledge of Congress's process for certifying the election results" and "improper purpose in later breaching the Capitol building."
The sentencing memo also cited a 90-second phone call between Rhodes and Meggs before the latter led a group of Oath Keepers who pushed their way into the Capitol. Although the content of that conversation is unknown, the Justice Department said, witnesses "testified that Meggs appeared to be receiving direction from whomever he was talking to on the phone." Again, the jury did not view that inference, even when combined with Rhodes' violent rhetoric, as sufficient to find him guilty of conspiring to attack the Capitol.
What about the "quick reaction force" (QRF) that stockpiled weapons at a Comfort Inn in Arlington, Virginia, prior to the riot? The sentencing memo noted that Rhodes "claimed he was unaware that there was a QRF for January 6," saying he knew that Oath Keeper Edward Vallejo had stashed guns at the hotel but "did not know that there was anybody sitting on them to do anything with them." In a message introduced at trial, however, Rhodes agreed with Meggs that a QRF was appropriate. "Okay," he said. "We will have a QRF. The situation calls for it."
The QRF ultimately did not do anything. But what did Rhodes think its purpose was? Oath Keeper Michael Greene, who in March was found guilty of a misdemeanor in connection with the Capitol riot, testified that Rhodes "wanted an armed QRF in Virginia because he heard people talking about they were going to forcefully storm the White House and remove Trump because Trump was refusing to leave the White House." According to the sentencing memo, Rhodes "instructed his co-conspirators to be prepared, if necessary, to secure the White House and use force against any government actors attempting to remove President Trump as a result of the presidential election."
Rhodes manifestly was ready to violently oppose the peaceful transfer of power, and he took steps in that direction, including the QRF and weapon purchases after the Capitol riot. That conduct, the jury evidently concluded, fit comfortably within the legal definition of seditious conspiracy, which includes plots to forcefully oppose the authority of the U.S. government or hinder the execution of its laws. But that conspiracy did not necessarily entail a plan to violently disrupt the electoral vote count on January 6. On that charge, the jury deemed the evidence insufficient to convict Rhodes.
The jury "made the confusing decision to acquit Mr. Rhodes of planning in advance to disrupt the certification of the election yet convict him of actually disrupting the certification process," the Times reported after the verdicts. "That suggested that the jurors may have believed that the violence at the Capitol on Jan. 6 erupted more or less spontaneously, as Mr. Rhodes has claimed."
Whatever you make of Rhodes' intent, it seems clear that the violence, by and large, did erupt "more or less spontaneously." According to the Justice Department, the Oath Keepers conspiracy involved 20 or so people. A handful of Proud Boys also were convicted of seditious conspiracy.
These relatively organized rioters represented a tiny fraction of the angry Trump supporters who trespassed on the Capitol grounds or entered the building itself. The 1,000 or so who have been arrested so far typically have been charged with misdemeanors such as "entering or remaining in a restricted building or grounds," "disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds," "disorderly conduct in a Capitol building," and "parading, demonstrating, or picketing in a Capitol building." Roughly a third have been charged with violent crimes, and only a few have been accused of acting based on plans hatched prior to January 6.
When the Justice Department says Rhodes "led a conspiracy that culminated in a mob's attack on the United States Capitol," it is not only making an allegation that jurors rejected. It is implying that, but for that conspiracy, there would have been no Capitol riot. Given the emotional energy unleashed by Trump's pre-riot speech, that counterfactual supposition seems highly implausible. But it fits the narrative favored by Democrats who reflexively portray the riot as an "insurrection," which implies a level of planning and organization that does not reflect the chaotic reality of what happened that day.
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It's obvious that steaming pile of TDS-addled shit can't spell "protest".
Why should he? I think the government may have gone a little overboard in this case, but that does nothing to absolve the people who hurt people and broke things during the mostly peaceful riot.
Congress had been evacuated before Trump's speech was over because of the bombs. Of course the FBI can't find that person. The protesters had a permit. We've all seen Ray Epps taking down the barricades and fences. It was a setup.
It was clearly a set-up but the person setting up the protesters was the then President Trump. Trump fed his conspiracy of a stolen election to vulnerable people. A skilled confidence man, Trump was able to get people's money and get them to take stupid actions. Some of these people then invaded the capital and whatever their intention they will be held accountable for their actions. Unfortunately, Trump, the person behind this will likely skate away free, while other do time for their parts.
"Trump fed his conspiracy of a stolen election to vulnerable people."
From Rasmussen
- 49% of all voters were concerned about US election integrity
– President Trump left office with a job approval of 51%.
– 47% of all voters believe there was election fraud in Nov 2020.
– 45% of all voters wanted debate on election integrity.
Even the precedent of half the country thinking the election was stolen, is bad.
If someone like you thinks it wasn't stolen, you should be eager to set this to rest. But that's not what you guys have been doing. Instead of encouraging a nationwide audit (not recount) with all states participating, you launch crazed attacks on anyone who questions the results, through disingenuous means like gaslighting, censorship, and demonizing. Your actions and rhetoric really makes everyone think that the election was stolen.
The fact that near half the country thinks the election was fraudulent is a testimony to the success of Trump as a confidence man and has little to do with the truth.
I am not opposed to a nationwide audit when you can explain what
an election audit is and how it is different from all the checks that are currently done. Audit is a word flung a round with no meaning.
"IT'S ALL TRUMP! NOBODY COULD HAVE WATCHED BIDEN'S TOTALS SUDDENLY JUMP IN MULTIPLE CLOSED STATES AND THINK ANYTHING UNTOWARD HAD HAPPENED! REEEEEEEEE!"
You are correct it is all Trump. None of his campaign staff or his administration thought there was significant fraud. His family members testified they knew he lost.
It interesting to you at all why so much of the video evidence was suppressed?
I wonder why.
Video evidence of what, pray tell?
NOBODY COULD HAVE WATCHED BIDEN’S TOTALS SUDDENLY JUMP IN MULTIPLE CLOSED STATES AND THINK ANYTHING UNTOWARD HAD HAPPENED!
Actually, anyone who was paying attention understood that because of the way ballots were counted in most states, and because Team Blue was encouraging mail-in voting but Team Red was encouraging in-person voting, that the counts on and immediately after election day would skew towards Team Red (because the in-person ballots were counted first), while the counts later on would skew towards Team Blue (as the mail-in ballot tallies were added into the total).
It is not fraud, it is how the ballots were counted.
Yeah, it’s normal to close the polls and start counting after the poll watchers are gone.
Kill your self.
Well, yeah, that is normal. Both sides had their own observers present for the counts. The only observers not allowed were the ones who exceeded the agreed numbers. Claiming this somehow proves fraud is about as convincing as claiming a basketball referee is biased because they won't let you put seven players on the court.
It is not entirely true that mail-in votes are counted after the in-person votes. Florida counted both. Many Republican states refused to make an adjustment to count both at once and the result was the late surge of the Biden voters.
No, not entirely true. I am thinking of places like Pennsylvania.
You don’t think at all
Given the increasing inability of the GOP to win elections without stacking the deck, it's hard not to suspect this was deliberately engineered to undermine confidence in elections. Even if wasn't, easily foreseeable consequences can't be legitimately written off as unintended.
No, that's been explained numerous times. An audit would probably include, but not be limited to:
Chain of custody trace on the ballot/validity etc.
Signature audit on all ballots
Eligibility checks on ballots.
Address verification on mail-in ballots-- ie, were they mailed from a dirt lot somewhere in Las Vegas.
All things already done. Note that Kari Lake recently had a case thrown out on ballot signature when it was shown that the checks were done. Again, what would you do different than is already being done?
When you run out of talking points do you just start blatantly lying? There are over a dozen settled judicial cases regarding illegal election changes in dem run areas alone. Then tens of thousands of double voters. Laughable signature matching. Pennsylvania destroying mail envelopes when state law required them to be kept for 2 years. Etc. Etc.
You expect honesty from that shithead?
I like how smoothly you endlessly repeat "over a dozen settled judicial cases regarding illegal election changes", to avoid having to mention that Trump lost nearly every single lawsuit he filed or was filed on his behalf alleging that the election itself was "stolen" or "fraudulent".
Focusing on largely meaningless election procedure cases (which did not involve allegations of fraud or anything which would have changed the outcome of the election) doesn't fool anyone.
(Okay, it probably does--but their minds were probably made up before the election had even taken place...)
He lost in courts run by corrupt leftist judges in blue shitholes.
This is false. Do you get tired of posting this narrative?
"All things already done."
Well that's a complete and utter fucking lie.
No. You should sign up to work at the polls and learn how elections are actually carried out.
Yeah, they kick the Republicans out when they start cheating
Funny thing is … Mother’s Lament is Canadian.
Yes, I also heard about those amazing signature checks done in half a second each. Those Dem poll staffers must be supermen.
The eyesight of a fighter pilot, the reaction time of a professional gamer, and the analysis skills of Sherlock Holmes. It's amazing they can find so many.
The signature checks were done and the work was upheld in court. That is what is required. So, the question remains what would an audit do differently than what has already been done?
Except the case showed that, mathematically, there was no signature check at all with the pace of the "checks". Taking 2.99 seconds at longest and ending up with a 99.97 approval rate, there was no signature check done.
Funny how it benefitted the Sec of State, who was in charge of that.
7 of the verifiers had 100% matching for thousands of votes. Statistically not probable based on historical verification rates.
Easy, they just keep counting and recounting until they get numbers they like.
All of which would be pointless since once the ballot is removed from the envelope, you don't know for whom the ballot counted. Without voter ID prior to counting the ballots, you can never know if there was fraud that swayed an election, only that there were fraudulent votes.
Do-overs are only allowed in a few states and then, the criteria are so convoluted and uncertain, that for all intents and purposes, there will never be any do-overs.
Washington State had the judge created requirement that any election anomaly could only invalidate an election if there was proof that the anomaly was the deliberate act of an individual with the intent of overturning an election.
You may think you can gaslight people, but it’s a fucking fact that they stopped counting in multiple jurisdictions around 2am and then when people woke up the next morning Biden was in the lead in all of those places.
Was it fraudulent? Who the fuck knows since the signature matching was spotty at best and out right destroyed (in contravention to state law) in some places. But it gave more than enough plausibility for people (47% of all voters means not just Trump Humpers or whatever derogatory thing you want to call anyone who disagrees with you) to think there were shenanigans.
Of course the sad reality is that there are two horrible options: 1) Democrats really did cheat and got away with it, or 2) Biden legitimately won and 81 million people actually supported the democrats policies.*
*if you voted for him without knowing this clusterfuck of an admin was going to push all the ridiculous shit it has, you didn’t pay attention to anything the Dems said during the debates or what he had in his campaign site.
Nobody voted for Biden. 81M people voted for "not Trump". After four years of blather and incompetence, the Dems could have nominated a potted plant and won. Trump knew that, which is why he started his lies well ahead of the election.
Near half the country thought EVERY election was fraudulent, and for good reason. The looter Kleptocracy is a secret band of robbers and murderers from which only a child or idiot would expect the honest truth. Lincoln was hired by 40% of the popular vote. Hired murderer Grant beat Greeley, who died after netting 44%. The Klan, White League and other racial collectivists murdered and intimidated voters as Twain explained in Huckleberry. But the Comstock laws so undermined GOP support it had to steal the 1876 election at gunpoint.
This is just the politics version of "teach the controversy" in evolution. Reality is, there is no amount of research or analysis which could persuade those people sure of a conspiracy, because that's the nature of conspiracy thinking. The more analysis showing the election wasn't stolen, the deeper or higher the conspiracy nuts will believe the conspiracy to go.
It sure helps if you can deny a defendant the ability to present evidence doesn’t it.
I hope you get ALL the cancers.
As cancer is relatively common, most people will get it in some form before they die.
It helps if the defendants claim to have no evidence when asked for it.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/21/giuliani-no-evidence-voter-fraud-arizona-jan-6-commitee
Autism has entered the chat.
Do you also believe the Durham Report?
Or is that (D) ifferent?
Yeah, funny how one plaintiff after another dropped their case like a hot rock when a judge was prepared to hear their "evidence". It's almost as if their attorneys managed to explain to them that lying on Twitter makes you an asshole, but lying in court makes you a felon...
– 49% of all Middle-Ages Church-goers were concerned about WITCHES, dammit!!! BURN the witches, AND those THIEVES who stole Donald's erections!!! Just LISTEN to Stormy Daniels, and ALL of the other "concern trolls" who are DEEPLY concerned about the Stolen Erections!!!
Show the proof where this happened. Get going.
I don’t think SQRLSY meant that to be taken literally.
Anyone who actually gave a damn would find out, not try to copy.
It really doesn't matter if it's a reasonable belief or not. If close to half of voters believe something, you can't just dismiss it or ignore them and expect to have any kind of functional political system.
"We have the most extensive and diverse vote fraud team in US history"
-Joe Biden
In no way can spreading a conspiracy about a stolen election cause people to riot. It is a complete non sequitir. It does not follow.
By that logic, spreading the "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" conspiracy also caused people to riot.
What I do know is that the Cunt®™, legally known as Hillary Rodham Clinton, started this conspiracy that Trump colluded with the Russians®™ to steal the 2016 election. Using campaign funds, she commissioned the fabrication of an intelligence dossier and used it to convince the FBI to lend credence to her claim, and as such, broke trust in federal law enforcement.
What the Cunt®™ did damaged democracy far more than any riot.
And you sided with the Cunt®™!
So much misogyny, must be scary living in a world with powerful women.
BTW - Trump tried to sell your story in a lawsuit, it was dismissed and his lawyers sanctioned.
I call Hillary Rodham Clinton the Cunt®™ for her role in corruptying the ethics of federal law enforcement, endangering democracy and the criminal justice system. The Cunt ®™ uniquely earned her infamous title.
By the way, the FEC fined the Cunt’s®™ campaign for its role in the Steele dossier.
And the violent révolutionnaires in Portland? Setting up their smelly pseudo city with their own government structure and storming and burning police stations in the real Portland? They're all in jail, right?
I'm sure a few spent an evening or two.
Relevance to rioters forcing their way into the Capitol building in Washington, D.C. to disrupt the peaceful transition of Presidential administrations?
They are all the same.
Remember this riot?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/31/politics/trump-underground-bunker-white-house-protests/index.html
The May 29th riot was brought to you by supporters of FJB and the Cunt®™ (legally known as Hillary Rodham Clinton)!
Your side excused this.
Your side accused the Secret Service of gassing them (which would not have been wrong had they done so)
My side? My is libertarians.
Firebombing federal courthouses is different...how?
Not at all different.
Trying to change the subject. Got it.
The CHAZ or whatever it was called was actually a literal insurrection.
https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1663229783482810370?t=ZQHS4nXHcCz9jfTBThz9hg&s=19
Charges Dropped Against Sai Kandula – The East Asian Migrant Terrorist with Nazi Flag Who Tried to Ram White House and Take Over the Country via @gatewaypundit
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That's what happens when everyone can call out a false flag. Expect the next false flag to be on the order of the Las Vegas shooting
ANTIFA commie anychists were sure the Christian nazis stole the 2016 election, just as MAGA Christian nationalsocialists piously believe they wuz robbed by pagan international socialists in 2020. This only demonstrates that both Kleptocracy looter factions are the same thing. Each knows that it would rob cheat and kill for electoral office and therefore believes the same of its Nixon-subsidized opposition.
"We're very much in exactly the same spot that the founding fathers were in like March 1775," he said during a conference call after the election. "Patrick Henry was right. Nothing left but to fight. And that's true for us, too. We're not getting out of this without a fight."
Anyone who believes that this statement is seditious conspiracy deserves what the establishment elite have planned.
It's only an insurrection when you lose.
We were promised a fight? They even brought guns, but didn't do shit. He's no Patrick Henry, that's for sure.
Who brought guns into the capitol building, Shrike?
You just can't stop making shit up to justify your fascism.
No one brought guns. They’d have been on display if they did.
But one guy had a gun on him blocks away from the Capitol!!!1!1!1!
And they had zip ties and smeared shit on the walls and that one brave cop was killed with a fire extinguisher!
Yeah a conspiracy of a handful of unarmed people created an insurrection of unarmed people who walked through doors opened by capitol police all because Trump told them to march patriotically and peacefully to the capitol in protest. The violence that occurred happened in response to tear gas and flash bombs fired at the protesters. Watch the videos.
Don't forget. Entering before the speech even ended.
Sarc and Jeff think he should have been shot on sight.
Sullum?
Like any leftist, yes.
They're not people, they're malignant tumors.
If they raise the punishment bar this high for a peaceful protest - the next one won't be peaceful.
No one is punished for peaceful protests, people are punished for crimes. People peacefully protest all the time in this country, that is our right as Americans.
You sure about that? https://reason.com/2022/10/04/a-jury-acquitted-them-of-various-charges-they-served-prison-time-for-them-anyway
Less than a third of J6 defendants were charged with violence or vandalism dumdum. Mackey just got 10 years for a meme dumdum. DoJ is going after pro life protestors with FACE for 10 years dumdum.
Thought crime should be taken seriously by all.
People are punished for peaceful protest all the time. Have you ever heard of "civil disobedience"?
Jan 6 wasn't entirely peaceful. But it was mostly peaceful. Many have been convicted who were entirely peaceful.
Still an “if”, still a hypothetical, since the protest we are discussing was not peaceful.
It actually was on the protestors' side. They didn't kill anyone, but lost one of their own, Ashli Babbitt.
Did I say anything about killing? I said that the protests were violent.
Did I say anything about killing? I said that the protests were violent.
Based on leftist definition--YOUR definition--, protests are peaceful if they include vandalism, arson, physical assault, murder and rape.
All these things happened during the 'fiery, but mostly peaceful' protests of 2020
Additionally during the period between 2016 and 2020 there were various takeovers, occupations and attacks upon various state and federal buildings. These, too, were peaceful.
Finally, at several points insurrectionists took over parts of the United States and declared them to be 'autonomous'. Some of these even had their own autonomous murder rates.
And this was peaceful as well--like the summer of love.
So what happened on January 6th could only be peaceful.
That isn't my definition. And I am not a leftist.
I honestly don't get what this sort of obfuscation accomplishes. There clearly were plenty of people who were attacking capitol police and destroying windows and property. Certainly it wasn't the whole crowd, but downplaying a riot as a peaceful protest is harmful to your argument.
I don't think Ashli Babbit should have been shot, either. But people often pretend she hadn't even broken a crime when she was trying to force her way into the building through a broken window. That's a clear crime chargeable in many ways. She wasn't among the hundreds of people who casually strolled in an open door.
I agree it isn't helpful to pretend there wasn't violence.
Regarding Ashley Babbit, I don't think she was actually forcing her way in through a window when she got shot. I saw video of just before she was shot and she was stepping through a broken glass door and talking to police who were present. I'm not clear on what exactly happened when she got shot, but after seeing that I question her killing even more.
I mean, 10’s of thousands of people didn’t riot or break anything. Hundreds of people did nothing more than mill about the halls of congress. And if you watch some of the videos, it’s clear the police shot tear gas and other munitions into the crowd BEFORE they did anything.
Just by the standards of the, check’s calendar, previous 9 months, it was peaceful.
Look up grapeshot in the Devil's Dictionary
Donald J Trump played the Osama Bin Laden part in the Jan 6 attack.
Apologists for both will note that neither personally carried out any destructive action. But they were the respective leaders of each attack on the US.
Kill yourself for your crimes against children.
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He’s a real Kool-Aid Man,
Sitting in his Kool-Aid Land,
Playing with his Kool-Aid Gland,
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Loves death and the dying moans,
Then he likes to munch their bones!
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Has no thoughts that help the people,
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Master? A disaster! Just the nastiest Beast!
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If EVERYONE who makes you look bad, by being smarter and better-looking than you, killed themselves, per your wishes, then there would be NO ONE left!
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You can not show that Donald Trump led the attack on the Capitol?
Hijackers attacked the WTC in the middle of OBL giving them their orders to do so?
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. Turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Trump and Bin Ladin both served girl-bullying faith-addled hate mobs. The analogy seems pretty valid.
The only email address I have for Stewart Rhodes is stewart.rhodes@oathkeepers.org
May be a while before you get a reply...
Kill yourself faggot.
Servant and Serpent of the Evil One is working overtime and over-tardedly today!
"oathkeepers.org’s server IP address could not be found." --Google
Didn't the FBI orchestrate this?
Just the no 2 guy for OK being an informant among others. Nothing to see here.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/oath-keepers-one-time-no-2-revealed-as-an-fbi-informant-likely-to-testify-at-rhodes-trial/ar-AA13TxSs
Don't forget the guy who told the FBI he didn't want to be an informant and got jail time for it
Rhodes is a shithead, but doesn’t seem to be, liked guilty of anything here.
This is so so far from "beyond a reasonable doubt". You will never get a fair trial in this country if you're on the wrong team. Straight to gulag for you.
There goes the jury box.
Which box comes after that?
I voted Libertarian.
Good News, Peanuts. You will get to bitch for months about a new American violence movie!
New 3.5 hour Scorsese Western gets seven minute ovation at Cannes:
Leonardo DiCaprio and Martin Scorsese’s ‘Killers of The Flower Moon’ gets raucous applause at Cannes premiere
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The cheers and applause grew louder for DiCaprio, De Niro and Lily Gladstone, who were all in attendance at the premiere. Jesse Plemons, Tantoo Cardinal, Cara Jade Myers, JaNae Collins, and Jillian Dion also star in “Killers.”
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Based on the bestseller by David Grann, the film is a true-crime story “set in 1920s Oklahoma and depicts the serial murder of members of the oil-wealthy Osage Nation, a string of brutal crimes that came to be known as the Reign of Terror.”
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The three and a half hour film marks Scorsese’s first-ever foray into the Western genre and premiered out of competition at Cannes. It has so far received positive reviews.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/21/entertainment/dicaprio-scorsese-cannes-premiere/index.html
Wow! Hollywood woke smugness, native American violence, DeNiro and Decaprio -- I can see conservatives bitching for MONTHS!
October? Move it up please.
Imagine how happy everyone around you would be if you had never been born.
"I can see conservatives bitching for MONTHS!"
As is often the case with your comments, you're either stupid or a liar.
Who bitched more about Scorsese's previous movie The Irishman? Whose whining prompted defenses like this: Robert De Niro Defends Anna Paquin’s Few Lines in ‘The Irishman’
OMG! Anna Paquin is an established actress with a role in this movie about male criminals and she doesn't have enough dialogue! Moreover, it only just barely passes the all-important Bechdel test!
It's like you've slept through several years of SJW pop culture criticism.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Guy should be sent to an institution, not prison.
Idiot shot his own eyeball out mishandling a handgun.
And you “accidentally” posted a link to kiddie porn.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
I’ve been to Australia, and I have to say that even the kangaroos would be embarrassed by these decisions.
"Such rhetoric was not enough to persuade jurors that Rhodes specifically planned the attack on the Capitol. "
The jurors were correct. Planning, in common parlance, means some kind of orderly sequence of actions centered around a goal, something that the meatballs in the Oathkeepers did not, and probably could not, do. Saying "Lets storm the capital tomorrow" is not a plan.
Saying " You, Sonny, take Fredo and the Turk with you and create a diversion on the north entrance with a Molotov cocktail. Luigi, you fake a heart attack. Mario you get the guards to call for an ambulance, that's when Luke, Leia and Han arrive in the fake ambulance, crash through the barriers and shatter the doors to the corridor leading to the Senate offices."
That's a plan, a terrible plan completely oblivious to the structure of the Capitol, but at least it reflects some aspects of a serious attack.
Of course, they didn't even have ""Lets storm the capital tomorrow."
As I under stand it, they actually had, "Let's have some guns over the border in Virginia, in case Antifa attacks the rally and the police stand back and let them." Which, don't get me wrong, actually DOES represent conspiracy to commit a crime, albeit a crime that shouldn't, constitutionally speaking, BE a crime.
Rhodes is an idiot, any sensible person would have realized that the feds would have his group chock full of moles, and that they had to be cleaner than clean to avoid going to prison. But he apparently wasn't idiot enough to plan to storm the Capitol building.
Clearly, SOMEBODY had planned to storm the Capitol. It doesn't, however, seem to have been the Oath keepers. But the government has been studiously avoiding finding out who it actually was. Because they already knew?
Do you know, they actually managed to not only track the guy who left those bombs, though public transport, but even to the point where he got in a car whose license plate they could see, and they STILL didn't identify him? How does that happen if you're not actively avoiding catching the guy?
Oh, and, yeah, just as I thought from the press photos:
Jan. 6 pipe bombs at RNC, DNC were inoperable, says ex-agent who contradicts FBI’s official story
Like that shocks anybody with the least technical knowledge who saw those photos.
Hell, the only person calling for storming the Capitol is the one guy who you're called a "conspiracy theorist" for even mentioning, Ray Epps.
Giant Douche and Turd Sandwich whips know that "git out there and hurt them bastards" is as complex a plan as their respective goons and thugs are intellectually qualified to put into practice. Remember Watergate?
"It remains unclear whether the Oath Keepers leader had a specific plan to violently disrupt the electoral vote count on January 6."
Wanna try to render that in understandable English, asshole?
"We have no evidence that the Oath Keepers' leader had a plan to violently disrupt the count, but can't prove he didn't.", basically.
The main stream medi has done its job well. They have convinced half the nation, the other half wants to take over the government in a violent INSURRECTION!!
A few questions that need answering:
How many stores did the Proud Boys loot?
How many did they torch?
How many police cars did they set on fire?
How many government buildings were set ablaze?
How many innocent people did the Proud Boys attack and injure?
Of all the rioting, looting, burning, assaults that resulted in nearly $2 billion in damage, hundreds hurt and some even killed, of all the cities that were deliberately set on fire and businesses that were destroyed, how many at the hands of the Proud Boys?
And yet they were described as dangerous threats to America.
How many BLM and ANTIFA rioters were sent to prison?
What also matters is the object and intent of such protests - and this is why statutes include references to intent, not merely the act itself.
The easiest test to prove whether these prosecutions are politically driven is comparing the results to similar left wing activists using similar apocalyptic language in their cosplay. The answer to that is a resounding no even for those who engaged in violence. For example one of the two layers who threw Molotov cocktails at the Floyd protests spent 28 days in jail. The other was sentenced to a year and a day, far less than people charged with parading in Jan 6th. The truth is the left needs to pretend there wa an insurrection to demonizes their political enemies so the legal system tries to make it true.
Meanwhile those same people pretend violence from the left doesn’t happen so the legal system minimizes their charges. Then the usual suspect propagandists here try to normalize the result. Each teammate plays a specific role, carefully eschewing knowledge of all others so they don’t have to accept responsibility for the entire process.
These Calico Cat v Gingham Dog duels are worthwhile so long as libertarians get to watch identical gangs of looters harming and hamstringing each other.