Homelessness Isn't an Unfixable Problem
Start by looking at the government policies that have made it worse.

California is home to nearly one-third of the nation's homeless population and the problem—by almost everyone's account—continues to worsen. The statistics tell part of the story: More than 170,000 people sleep in tents in public parks, under freeway bridges and on sidewalks in our cities and suburbs. The state has spent $20 billion to address the problem in five years.
The anecdotes are even more telling, given that the common, appalling street scenes cause businesses to shutter and discourage people from visiting downtowns or using public transit. I was chatting on my cellphone on a Sacramento street when a homeless man started screaming in my face. It doesn't take many incidents like that to harden our attitudes.
Liberal Democrats, who typically run big-city governments, have understandably been reluctant to embrace enforcement-centric policies. That's changing as scared and angry residents speak out. Gov. Gavin Newsom announced efforts to clear out 1,200 homeless encampments. Officials in San Francisco even unleashed the National Guard to tamp down open-air drug markets.
The governor's office said the effort is "concentrated in or near the Tenderloin and South of Market neighborhoods of the city." Those neighborhoods are Ground Zero for homeless encampments, which should surprise no one. Sprawling tent cities have become like the Wild West—breeding grounds for illicit drug use, retail theft, and sex crimes.
Meanwhile, California's official "Housing First" policy is failing. As a fact sheet on the Housing and Community Development website explains, "anyone experiencing homelessness should be connected to a permanent home as quickly as possible, and programs should remove barriers to accessing the housing, like requirements for sobriety or absence of criminal history."
That approach is an outgrowth of progressive ideology. Housing First views homelessness primarily as a housing problem, thus downplaying the addiction and mental-health issues that are at the root of the crisis. Placing mentally ill people and those with substance-abuse problems unsupervised in housing units doesn't provide them with the help they need. As one homeless expert told me, it mainly results in them dying alone in a room.
Even if Housing First worked, the state can't afford to build—and certainly not quickly—the number of units needed. We've seen absurd news stories about affordable housing projects costing more than $1 million per apartment. Thanks to the usual governmental issues (poor management, environmental rules, union featherbedding), cities can't even build a public toilet for less than $1.7 million.
The head of Orange County's Rescue Mission has told me that the vast majority of people the nonprofit assists self-identify as having a mental health or addiction issue. Yet homeless activists and political commentators push the fiction that homelessness is primarily a housing issue—and advocate their usual litany of solutions: rent controls, eviction moratoria, and additional spending on subsidized apartments.
They make the problem sound easy to fix. As a headline in the Jesuit magazine, America, noted: "Homelessness is only getting worse, but we know the solution: a right to housing." Declaring new rights doesn't solve anything, of course, and only will make matters worse.
Depriving property owners of the ability to evict non-paying tenants and imposing rent controls demonstrably discourages housing investment—and leads to further shortages. In reality, homelessness is a mental health and social issue that's exacerbated by our state's inordinately high cost of housing.
The overwhelming nature of the problem, poor public policies, and aggravating debates lead many people to basically throw in the towel. But that might not be necessary. I recently moderated a homelessness panel in downtown Sacramento, where attendees watched a short movie that compared San Francisco's intractable problems with those in San Antonio. There are no easy buttons, but the documentary, "Beyond Homeless," did offer a thoughtful blueprint.
Essentially, the Texas city built a lovely campus in an industrial area not far from downtown. It offers dormitories, a cafeteria, clean restrooms, and a panoply of social services. It's run by a nonprofit organization. According to the filmmakers, San Antonio's downtown unsheltered homeless population dropped by 80 percent. The program has moved 6,000 people into permanent housing.
The state and cities already are spending billions of taxpayer dollars a year, so why not spend more of that money in this humane manner? California officials would be thrilled to reduce its downtown homeless populations by that degree—even if dealing with the remaining 20 percent of homeless people is still challenging. (With the latter, the state's new CARE Courts, which "sentence" low-level lawbreakers to services rather than jail, will help.)
This approach would satisfy the federal Martin v. City of Boise decision, which limits the ability of cities to enforce anti-camping ordinances unless they have a place to house homeless people. So here's the basic model: Build a big, nice campus for homeless people that offers an alternative to living in parks and on sidewalks. There's more to it, but maybe everyone is overthinking the problem.
This column was first published in The Orange County Register.
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I agree, homelessness can’t be fixed. The poor will always be with you, either by choice or economic downfall. These marginalized citizens need our help, sadly many spurn it…it’s there choice
I sincerely believe the US could permanently end poverty and homelessness by lowering the minimum wage to $0.00 / hour and allowing unlimited, unrestricted immigration.
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And you probably also sincerely believe that we can power America on unicorn farts.
I assume Soros piss boy, Koch, is more into solar and wind.
It isn’t a problem for the homeless, it’s a problem for everyone else.
Mental illness, drug dependency, chronic illnesses and stupidity are real barriers to employment.
We can ignore or placate them living together with their dysfunction and troubles near our homes, businesses and families.
Or we can decide not to tolerate that in our society.
Instead we could heal, house and employ them, by law, until they can earn their freedom with compliance to the laws of society.
When people are spiraling downhill, cheering them on doesn’t make any problems go away.
And get rid of the Joooooooosssssss, right Misek?
earn their freedom
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The phrase, “work makes you free” terrifies you pansy.
Maybe you’re homeless, eh?
Just a lying waste of skin Kol Nidre boy.
Interesting, I thought such things never existed.
It’s your bogeyman story, not mine, fuckwit.
It's your denial, not mine, stormfag.
He has to be a parody.
Anyone who ever saw the naked body of somebody who died from cyanide asphyxiation would NEVER forget the red skin colour. The bodies reaction to being unable to process oxygen.
Not a single surviving fuckwitness ever mentioned it though.
Also, no dark cherry red skin discolouration was visible in any supposed photographs of bodies of so called victims of the holocaust.
The fact is that you can’t explain it and your bigotry prevents you from recognizing the ONLY logical conclusion.
Not a single fuckwitness testimony or alleged photograph of bodies was of anyone who died from cyanide exposure.
So much for “evidence” of a holocaust.
That visceral feeling you’re experiencing is that of a human animal trapped by logic.
The truth will set you free.
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As usual Greenhut misses the main issue. How much does California spend per year on the homeless? Where does the money go? Who do the people who get that money support politically? How much of that money comes back as political contributions?
It's a BUSINESS! They don't want the homeless issue dealt with. There's too much money to be made.
$20 Billion over five years. It is in the article.
The welfare industrial complex is much to important to progressivism for Reason to ever really attack it.
^ it's a jobs program for otherwise unemployable low-IQ social studies majors.
How many people in California work for the homeless industry?
So what you're saying is that Californians no longer know how to govern themselves?
Their government is now solely an enterprise of by and for the corrupt?
Everyone who is not directly engaged in and benefiting from that corruption has their head up their ass? is a perpetual victim that continues to vote for their own victimization? while still bragging to everyone else in the world that CA is some sort of model of leading edgeness?
What a pathetic bunch of whiny losers.
It's funny that you tried to reframe Jim's position attempting to use absurd and reductionist framing while ironically stating truths that you apparently don't even realize.
"you tried to reframe Jim’s position attempting to use absurd and reductionist framing"
This is sarcasmic, Mike and Buttplug's current modus operandi too. It's all they have left since team blue took its mask off.
> What a pathetic bunch of whiny losers.
conservative says what
Asshole says what?
I was chatting on my cellphone on a Sacramento street when a homeless man started screaming in my face. It doesn't take many incidents like that to harden our attitudes.
[clears throat]
I don't care what actually happened here, and neither should you. It is way past time we stopped litigating petty disputes between individuals in the national press. This isn't a story. Billy Binion @billybinion
Start promoting the real family, babies, and morality.
Proximate causes do almost nothing.
And to counter the money argument...Biden is a mojor cause of societal breakdown. "Apr 26, 2023 — According to the CBO, Biden is going to match Trump's addition to the national debt in just three years, reaching a total of $7.1 trillion over four years.
Forests, roads, USPS Amazon contracts, climate change, gay initiatives ---- all getting money but not actual people.
With progress we get poorer and poorer. Who can't see this.
Well, Biden solved the illegal immigration problem by defining those 'seeking asylum' as not being illegals, why not solve the homeless problem by defining those with tents as having a home?
Surely you noticed a few years ago that "homeless" became a right-wing dog whistle and the almost-identical "unhoused" is the kind word? Check in tomorrow for the new one, though.
I think urban outdoorsmen is a good one. It's accurate and sexist, so it ticks a few boxes.
Nah. "Freedom Crappers". Very descriptive of what their doing in SF.
Also "people experiencing homelessness".
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Solving the homeless problem requires comprehensive and multifaceted approaches that address the root causes and provide appropriate support and resources to those experiencing homelessness. This can involve initiatives such as affordable housing programs, employment assistance, mental health services, substance abuse treatment, and social support networks. It's important to understand the complexities of homelessness and work towards long-term solutions rather than relying on simplistic definitions or labels.
who typically run big-city governments
I'd like to commend the word "typically" for the feat of Herculean strength it's putting forth here.
2 Weeks ago, Greenhut insisted to us that San Francisco wasn't that bad. He insisted that evil conservatives are exagerating the city's problems in order to blame the progressive leadership of the city and state.
This week, Greenhut is complaining about the homeless. He notes that it is causing huge problems in San Francisco and he blames progressive leaders of the city and state.
This is Greenhut for you. Conservatives have the exact same arguments as he does, but if they voice them, its a bad thing.
He hadn't been yelled at yet. Now he got yelled at. His attitude hardened.
"A liberal is a conservative that hasn't been mugged yet".
You mean like that old line from the sixties?
This was before the BART cleaver attack
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/report-bart-passenger-allegedly-attacked-by-man-with-knife/ar-AA1b1B04
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Why so much addiction and mental health issues? Has it increased since, say, 1900? 1950? Does the San Antonio model "cure" these problems or just warehouse them? Maybe warehousing (mental institutions) is a better answer?
It’s where we used to put them
Almost everyone who has been around for a while knows full well by now that shutting down the institutions and leaving the hopelessly addicted and the clinically insane to fend entirely for themselves was one of our worst policy mistakes of the last few decades. But many people are still reluctant to say so out loud because we all got successfully brainwashed by Hollywood and the media to believe that everyone in there was being tortured by a cruel, sadistic "Nurse Ratchitt" type character.
If people would rather call it a "campus" instead of an "institution", I'm OK with that. In the end, who really cares what the hell we decide to call it?
What if we called it an off-shore reef?
Build a campus with dorms way out in BFE...better to keep drugs & alcohol off campus. Run it like the old CCC camps. Bus the homeless who want housing to the campus, should satisfy 'Boise', allowing localities to arrest aggressive vagrants.
"who want housing" is. key idea. 9 out of 10 refuse housing because that interferes with their addictions.
And we have libertarians like Tom Szasz to blame! It's been one of our few striking policy successes — things that were advocated by libertarians practically alone — and we turned out to be wrong!
Yeah, I never found Szasz’s “there’s no such thing as mental illness” line convincing or realistic. There’s kind of a post modernist edge to his take I never recognized back in the day.
There have always addicts and mentally ill on the edges of every town. California got rid of the mental institutions, and there was an uptick. But that was decades ago. The current explosion is different. Something happened. Something not related to mental institutions which have been closed since I was a kid.
No doubt bums from all over are flocking there.
Don't think they are flocking here. They are native Californios who are addicts and bums and sometimes legitimately down on their luck, who California policy is not addressing properly. I see no evidence that they are all coming in from outside the state.
California’s decriminalization of drugs and emptytheprisons mandate seem to have coincided somewhat.
These two public policies are sacred cows to the editors here (not necessarily to libertarians though, many of whom support the enforcement of vagrancy laws).
Thus “lovely campuses” are seriously proposed as a solution to the shit-show in California’s major cities.
Here's the timeline of how a lot of patients got released from mental institutions to save money. It was a multi-year impact over several administrations. The situation wasn't mostly Ronald Regan's fault but he did contribute to accelerating the release of patients by cancelling the federal program and pushing mental health back to the states in "block grants". Everyone knows that "block grants" often don't target what they are supposed to when they get down to the state level.
https://www.kqed.org/news/11209729/did-the-emptying-of-mental-hospitals-contribute-to-homelessness-here
It would've been much worse to have kept patients in the mental hospitals yet make no progress. They are not meant to be places of permanent residence. Individual will and responsibility is the most important factor to fixing the issue. Drugs are the ultimate cause of homelessness.
What makes you believe that the freedom to act out your mentally ill delusions in society will solve anything?
Why so much addiction and mental health issues? Has it increased since, say, 1900? 1950?
Given the news and social media? Yes. For committable psychiatric disorders? Probably not. One issue with mental institutions is what it takes to commit someone. People were comitted who were perfectly fine. Their relatives just wanted them out of the way for inheritances or something else. Brittney Spears is an example of how crazy things are now. Things were worse 100 years ago.
I see a few groups over the past 100 years. Balancing among it all is a problem.
1: Those who need to be locked up for everyone else's safety
2: Those who are fine if taking medication but refuse to take it
3: Those who are fine but got forced into an institution and can't get out (catch-22 style)
I would not throw out "Housing First", but rather recognize it will not work for all homeless people. I would think the approach would work well for those people experiencing short term homelessness due to financial problems.
My city, Madison, has built a homeless campus at the edge of the city and it has had some success. I suspect a big part of the homeless campus idea is where to get the land and how to deal with NIMBY from those nearby residents. I would also think that for a large city multiple campuses would be better and would avoid concentrating homeless in a single area. It more resources and more effort but it is easier to contain if problem develop.
I would think the approach would work well for those people experiencing short term homelessness due to financial problems.
Short-term homelessness was already short-term, and "Housing First" was not required to fix that problem. In fact, Housing First has made that problem worse because it crowds out "short term homelessness" with long term homelessness which is paid to be homeless.
I don't think you or I are in disagreement. People living at the edge who are functional and are suffering a short term economic set back, can be helped by getting them back in housing. Allowing them to reconnect with a job and get back on their feet. I would put them first on my list to get funding and help. The chronically homeless have significantly bigger problems and the best that a city may be able to do is to create a reasonably safe environment like a homeless campus. It is sad and difficult to admit but this is just palliative care until an overdoes or infection ends their life.
I would think the approach would work well for those people experiencing short term homelessness due to financial problems.
This is basically a non-existent caricature in the minds of proggies. These kinds of "homeless". people do not exist for all intents and purposes.
"those people experiencing short term homelessness"
Moreover, these are the kinds of homeless people that are able to get assistance from the current system to help them out of their situation.
People who want help to get out of their current situation can actually find it.
The more government programs the better, amiright?
No government programs would just be leaving them on the streets, sleeping on grates and defecating on sidewalks. What is being suggested is a smarter government policy to create a reasonably safe campus for the homeless.
No government programs would just be leaving them on the streets, sleeping on grates and defecating on sidewalks.
It actually wouldn't. The vast majority of citizens are just fine with homes, without government intervention.
What is being suggested is a smarter government policy to create a reasonably safe campus for the homeless.
That can be done without government involvement.
No cops?
Why not launch a War on Poverty, and build a Great Society?
Some sort of 5 year plan…..
We did. And the problem got worse.
Can I get a Nobel prize in economics for the concept of incentives?
To be fair, Don't look called for a 5-year plan, not a 10.
Depriving property owners of the ability to evict non-paying tenants and imposing rent controls demonstrably discourages housing investment—and leads to further shortages.
Is it too much to ask that an ostensibly libertarian publication find writers who can at least pretend to be libertarian?
Keep it simple, keep it principled: depriving property owners of the ability to evict non-paying tenants and imposing rent controls deprives them of their natural rights. Governments have neither the constitutional nor the moral authority to tell someone what he can do with his property. Outside of adjudication of contract disputes there is no role whatsoever for governments in housing.
Housing is not a right and the assholes in the Society of Jesus are more than welcome to sell some of their property and antiquities to build the bestest homeless compound on the planet and press their devotees into service maintaining it. That would cure them of their smug righteousness quickly.
The left's definition of right is something given to you.
If housing is a right, that would simply mean government cannot interfere with you trying to be housed. It does not mean one will be provided for you.
If housing is a right, that would simply mean government cannot interfere with you trying to be housed.
That isn’t what the Jesuits are talking about. Government is currently shoulder-deep in the ass of housing and that isn’t going to get better. That’s by design; none of the vested interests profit if it does.
"The left’s definition of right is something given to you."
More accurately, something you can take from someone else. Enslaving others to provide you with something is not a right.
California is home to nearly one-third of the nation's homeless population and the problem—by almost everyone's account—continues to worsen. The statistics tell part of the story: More than 170,000 people sleep in tents in public parks, under freeway bridges and on sidewalks in our cities and suburbs. The state has spent $20 billion to address the problem in five years.
So I guess those Fox News hosts might be on to something.
The statistics tell part of the story: More than 170,000 people sleep in tents in public parks, under freeway bridges and on sidewalks in our cities and suburbs. The state has spent $20 billion to address the problem in five years.
They spent $1960 per person per month? I could rent apartments up and down the state for that price. The state is spending money in all the wrong ways.
""More than 170,000 people sleep in tents in public parks, under freeway bridges and on sidewalks in our cities and suburbs.""
That's more people than some small cities.
At some point they may just build a wall around everything. Some guy named Snake will help if you lose someone behind the wall.
I believe that homelessness IS an unfixable problem, because we made it that way.
The US: The Sick Man of North America.
^correct
If only they'd stayed laser focused on furniture.
Perhaps the solution to problems that arise in the public commons is to eliminate the commons. How many of you would be happy to live in a private town? You can own your property and also have guaranteed access to a private commons. e.g. streets and other shared spaces. Anyone not a resident can visit as a guest until asked to leave.
Haven't you just described a gated community? There are plenty of those for people. I don't know where you live but most apartment building in my city limit entry.
Or any high rise apartment building with an armed security guard and elevator key entry. Kind of how most Democrat politicians from NYC live in.
I am suggesting a gated town, with all the streets, workplaces, retail, services, and other "public" facilities where we spend our lives now. And either be a member or an invited guest who follows the rules.
Like they had in the Middle Ages?
> Like they had in the Middle Ages?
Yes. What “Earth-based Human Skeptic” is endorsing is what a lot of quote unquote libertarians endorse, to whit: neofeudalism. Lords (landed property owners) and Peasants (everyone else).
You guys have really backwards, bad-intentioned, fucked-up beliefs, despite what this billionaire-funded propaganda organ tells you.
Cause liberals are SOOO much more enlightened and not at all a bunch of spoiled brats who stomp their feet when they don’t get their way, all the while demanding that the rest of society be dragged into their fucking communes.
Yep. Merge the public property into the surrounding private lots with contractual agreements in perpetuity for the continuation of upkeep through taxes, etc. Create a giant HOA disallowing people "camping out." Now you can evict them all legally.
People just aren't very smart, or work really hard to keep others ignorant.
You should go ahead and build that. There are plenty of communities like that in places like florida and california to keep out riff raff and "community police" to toss out brown people and vagabonds who aren't visiting the white populous
Convert every inch of “city” land to private property (simply by divying up to the closest attached lot), with in-perpetuity agreements to maintain access for lawful purposes (driving on the roads, visiting the parks), upkeep (road repair handled in a community manner by government through taxes), expansion of roads, etc.
If all the land is private, it is no longer legal for homeless to “camp out” and they can be legally evicted.
So I guess you and your buddies get all the profits from that?
Here's the headline in today's local newspaper:
First you wanna kill me...
>>sleep in tents
not homeless.
Every human will seek shelter from the elements before food and water. So yeah they actually are homeless. a tarp over your head aint a house.
Freaking send them to Greenland and Puerto Rico already. They all had their opportunity and pissed it away on drugs and or crime ( sex offenders also lose their homes often). Choices. They do matter.
Six offenders? So Shrike doesn’t have a stable home?
The #1 cause of homelessness is good weather.
Probably not a lot of homelessness in North Dakota.
Surprisingly Vermont is number 2 in states with most homeless per capita. And NY, number 5, ain't so balmy either.
https://www.security.org/resources/homeless-statistics/
I’d rather risk the complete collapse and literal burning of the western states than move addicts and the severe mentally ill to a place where land is cheap with plenty of water. Places where no one is around for miles and miles, no opposition -no neighbors, cheap trailers, counseling for those who want to quit drugs, separate area for a full on drug zone for those who want to use drugs or alcohol. Someplace like appalachia or the middle of Kansas or Alaska.
I don’t have a right to move to the north shore of Maui and pitch a tent and shit on the beaches or the bamboo forests, smoke Maui wowie all day, invite my entire extended family and friends to do the same because we really like Maui. Some wealthy people running the drug cartels, funding the non prosecution of foot soldiers- violent felons want business as usual.
Death Valley is wide open.
1) There are people who actually need help, but the homeless policies crowd them out in favor of the addicts and bums. Furthermore, it encourages addiction and indolence.
2) Funny thing, these crisis has been growing for a long time, but it didn't take off until Trump got elected. Almost as if it was planned to Democrat city leaders in California could blame Trump. Or that they could claim to be the solution for. Within the space of a year my brother's residential neighborhood became a permanent homeless encampment. Police clear them out of one sidewalk and they just show up again the next day on the other side.
3) Places that have NEVER had a homeless problem in California, now have one. Los Banos, middle of nowhere, now has permanent homeless encampment. Crazy. Even worse in those places because there's literally no funding to do anything about it. Agriculture counties ain't set up for dealing with a homelessness crisis.
SCOTUS 2019:
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/homelessness-california-west-coast-supreme-court-ben-shapiro
Funny thing, these crisis has been growing for a long time, but it didn’t take off until Trump got elected.
Is the receipt for this assertion dated 2016 or 2019? Asking for some guy in the back seat just trying to helpfully give directions and his friend named Smrochelle Smwalensky.
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“1) There are people who actually need help, but the homeless policies crowd them out in favor of the addicts and bums. Furthermore, it encourages addiction and indolence. ”
Not at all surprising. There are American veterans who need help, but the immigration policies of this administration crowd them out in favor of illegal invaders.
“2) Funny thing, these crisis has been growing for a long time, but it didn’t take off until Trump got elected. ”
Translation: It took off when Democrats initiated their anti-Trump “Woke” campaign full force, hoping to blame homelessness on Trump, too. Trouble for you is, homelessness is a State issue, not a Federal one.
“3) Places that have NEVER had a homeless problem in California, now have one.”
Vote for Democrats, get Democrat policies. Why is this difficult for you to understand?
Again, homelessness is a State issue. Did it ever cross your mind that legalizing drugs, defunding the police, disarming citizens, decriminalizing crime, and providing free needles for addicts might in fact result in more homelessness?
Nah, of course not. That would require the ability to reason – which, along with personal responsibility, are repudiated by every initiate to the suicide cult of Marx – aka the Democrat party.
The solution is to prohibit government from initiating force.
No, the solution is to prohibit government from handing out cash and cash-equivalents using taxpayer money.
Where do the severely addicted get money to buy drugs?
Come on dude. You already know the answer to this question. They get it from all the bleeding heart fools who give them their spare change or a buck or two as they're walking or driving by.
I don’t think the cartels are taking pocket change for heroin or meth, coke. I bet they’re trading SNAP cards or cash assistance of $300/month- maybe housing vouchers too. The bleeding hearts open the food kitchens so they can eat while trading away SNAP, mob then sells SNAPs to illegals or resells on web. Fed taxpayers pay 80percent on section 8 vouchers to slum lords on vouchers. In cities, most total welfare transfers are up to 60,000 to $100,000/year. California has 1/3 of ALL federal welfare transfers
Ding ding ding!
Abolish all CASH and cash equivalent benefits to the poor. Most will simply stop claiming benefits if all they get are healthy foods and durable (but not stylish) clothes.
Fortunately - the 'Mises' Caucus knows how to solve homelessness:
Take Back the Streets: Get Rid of the Bums. Again: unleash the cops to clear the streets of bums and vagrants. Where will they go? Who cares? Hopefully, they will disappear, that is, move from the ranks of the petted and cosseted bum class to the ranks of the productive members of society. - Murray Rothbard
Course like everything from their ilk, there is never and can never be a measure of success in implementation because - Austrian school doesn't do empirical evidence of anything - which is why they make for permanent 'deniers' of anything empirical like 'facts that don't comport with the methodenstreit and first principles'.
So as long we 'unleash the cops', we will at least be engaging in the right process and be affirming what 'libertarian' is.
Psssst. You're on the wrong website.
A lost RT poster, perhaps?
Of course there's a measure of success - fewer homeless living in cities. Even a Demunist ought to be able to grasp that.
"...Austrian school doesn’t do empirical evidence of anything..."
This is the kind of perfect ignorance (dishonesty?) we've all come to expect from Demunists. Austrian school is ALL about empirical evidence, not "theory."
I always find it amusing when you totalitarians try to portray Libertarians as totalitarians. It's hard-wired into you to try to seek a moral equivalency between your malicious totalitarian agenda and those of freedom-loving folks.
Of course there’s a measure of success – fewer homeless living in cities.
Well just because Rothbard defined ‘disappear’ as ‘move from the ranks of the petted and cosseted bum class to the ranks of the productive members of society’ doesn’t make it so. Nor is a definition itself ’empirical’.
Hell – I bet I can come up with a definition of ‘disappear’ that every cop (the implementer of said ‘disappear’) will be able to implement more easily than Rothbard’s nonsense definition. I can define disappear = ‘bums buried in a mass grave under an earthen dam while said cop claims the bums are now in Chicago – and productive’.
Neither definition is empirical. One could easily create empirical measures to test the success or failure of ‘disappear’ – and to determine where the one definition or the other has succeeded or failed. And to all that the Rothbard assertion would be – ‘who cares?’ Empirical evidence is irrelevant to Austrian School. What he advocates – unleashing the cops – is self-evidently going to lead to ‘disappear’ – which will always be defined as ”move from the ranks of the petted and cosseted bum class to the ranks of the productive members of society”.
Austrian school is ALL about empirical evidence, not “theory.”
Cool. So you truly don’t know shit. From Mises.org BS by Rothbard – TLDR – c) that there is consequently no need for empirical “testing,” either of the premises or the conclusions; and (d) that the deduced theorems could not be tested even if it were desirable. It’s why Austrians get more and more certain about their conclusions/prescriptions the longer they sit on the sidelines in an armchair spinning a narrative. They don’t need no steenkin evidence.
There's more than one side that routinely ignores empirical evidence.
Mothbard is close but not quite.
the real libertarian answer is to let private property owners deal with squatters and trespassers however they like and minimize public property ownership. In libertarian-world, roads, overpasses and sidewalks are all private so this makes it easy. Then you can have the private security with billy clubs move these homeless campers off your property as you see fit. Problem solved.
So everyone has to negotiate rights of way and easement permissions -every day - for 1000+ land owners between where you are and where you want to go?
'...Homelessness has decreased 80% in downtown area..' but cites no real evidence to support it. 1. KSAT (San Antonio tv) found no reduction in the number of homeless the last ten years, (and it's increasing post covid) so most likely 2. downtown got sick of this, and simply enforced the 'no encampment' laws.
"Liberal Democrats..."
This is an oxymoron. Democrats (or, to use their propaganda phrase, "social liberals") are literally the totalitarian antithesis of Classical (real) Liberals.
Solution…
First step: Make it a crime to live homeless in cities. Second step: Relocate ALL homeless people to encampments far from large cities where they will have no access to drugs and alchohol. Death Valley comes to mind, a place where we can build large tent cities in a matter of days (engage the US military - they are quite good at it). Sheriff Arapaio of Arizona once showed that it is easily possible to house, feed, clothe, provide BASIC medical care for, and CONTAIN prisoners for a few dollars per day each. In other words, for less than 10% of what they are spending now, they can permanently solve the problem.
There are a few additional details, of course. Wireless internet and cheap tablets for each person would allow them to obtain education and search for work. Prospective employers would need to agree to provide food and housing up front to acquire workers.
Real solutions aren’t hard. They just don’t let Democrats funnel billions in taxpayer revenues into their campaigns.
No it isn't fixable. A decade ago it was, but the woke idiots in the democratic party have made this part of the fabric of America. They glorified and promoted homelessness.
Alex, I'll take things that never happened for $3000.
More than 170,000 people sleep in tents in public parks, under freeway bridges and on sidewalks in our cities and suburbs. The state has spent $20 billion to address the problem in five years.
20,000,000,000 / 170,000 = 117,647
Seems like they could have just bought everyone a motorhome and called it a day.
this is brilliant. I'm going to steal this and use it in conversation.
How about attacking the problem from the other side, with a carrot, instead of a stick, for once.
Make the first $50,000 in rental income tax free. Encourage homeowners to rent out part of their homes. Let them actually keep the money, instead of it being clawed back in income tax.
because access to housing is not a cause of homelessness.
although your proposals are of course good, just not as a way to solve homelessness.
It seems to me that preventing homelessness on an individual basis should be much less expensive than fixing it after it happens. Communities should spend much more time and money on identifying people already housed in their community who are at risk of becoming homeless, and providing whatever necessary assistance is needed to prevent that from happening. Once they become homeless, it’s a slippery slope. Finding people who have lost jobs, are running out of money and are thus facing eviction, etc., should be relatively easy. Providing rent subsidy or assistance finding work to prevent homelessness should be much less expensive than the full homelessness recovery treatment. Also, if communities dedicated, say 80% of their homeless remediation budget to prevention and only 20% to recovering people from chronic homelessness, it would discourage people from arriving in town homeless looking for free services.
Houston has made similar effort as well and had a lot of success. Austin is still way behind both cities, as the city council is a bunch of buffoons.
Steps to solve homelessness:
1. Prohibit urban camping and enforce the no camping law.
2. Prohibit panhandling and enforce the law.
3. No cash benefits. No other benefits for non-workers either, as long as unemployment is low. Employers are hiring.
Do those 3 steps first and half or more of the problem will be solved.
Putting them in jail gets them away from us and will motivate some to rejoin society.
But the only crime most of these people have committed is to be dysfunctional and unwell, they still know and choose right over wrong.
Lumping them in with all kinds of criminals solves everyone else’s immediate problem but won’t help many of them.
They need to be jailed in a facility with others like them that is as much, medical, educational and employment as it is incarceration.
That’s my $.02 anyways.
It’s not a prison sentence for camping, it’s just no camping. When bad behavior isn’t an option, half or more will stop the bad behavior. And the rest of society would benefit immediately.
The other half of homeless need other measures like involuntary mental heath treatment, etc.
Getting the tents off the streets serves the public. Prohibiting the panhandling serves the public. Laws and policies should serve the public.
Without consequences up to and including incarceration, there is no motivation for people without motivation.
What are you suggesting instead?
They’ll shuffle off to other locations and authorities will spend their time just telling them to leave.
Consequence is that you get no sleep and your tent is confiscated. And you’re arrested if you don’t obey the lawful orders of police.
"…authorities will spend their time just telling them to leave"
Sounds like authorities will be engaged in serving the public by doing that.
Your alternative plan to give up before doing anything accomplishes nothing.
Uh, they don’t have homes, jobs, any responsibilities and people throw away or give them everything they need.
They sleep, eat, shit, anywhere, anytime unlike the rest of us.
There aren’t enough authorities to hassle them 24/7.
There are plenty of authorities to hassle them. Hassle them and cut off their income streams enough, and getting a job and will start looking like a better alternative for many of them.
While I commend your optimism I think it’s misplaced.
The authorities do work for the people, including the homeless and those who advocate their lifestyle. They don’t “hassle” people. Status quo.
With a law criminalizing vagrancy a precedent to arrest and a program to let them regain self worth we could expect a change from the current status quo.
Give them a haircut, shower, clean cloths, a meal and a bed for 24 hours then a bus ticket out of town. Problem solved.
That just moves the problem to the next town. And the next town is just sending their problems to yours.
The bum lifestyle needs to be prohibited in every town. Bums can live in the forest away from town or get a job, not live on the street in town.
Regarding panhandling, every couple of weeks I drive by a Wendy's with big sign "Now Hiring; text (number) for interview". On the neighboring street corner there stands a particular guy, generally talking on his phone, next to his sign begging for cash.
Some people are not interested in joining productive society.
Make life harder for him until working at a job looks preferable. Keep doing it until he either works or moves into the deep forest, or into a jail cell.
A lot of "Homeless" are homeless by choice. If they want to live that way, why not provide them with a place to do so? I'd build them a giant open-air place...with a log stockade all around it. And guards up on the stockade, with orders to shoot anybody who gets too close to the stockade. We could call it "Andersonville II."
I've seen pictures of the original Andersonville, and it looks like a homeless encampment surrounded by a log stockade. If they want to live like that, I'd let them.
Like “escape from New York”?
One of the many, many issues with government is the inability to revert back and instead, attempt to apply a correction to the correction to the correction, etc. This makes what the author is proposing almost impossible to do and I think fair to say, with modern public servants, impossible to do. The only starting point would be to remove ALL programs and start from ground zero. Of course that will never happen with homelessness or any other issue that needs addressing.
"The only starting point would be to remove ALL programs and start from ground zero."
Too wordy.
The only starting point would be to remove ALL programs.
Welfare Industrial complex enriches all those well connected NYC intellectual types who majored in "social science"...lets be frank who pushed these programs.
As for the homeless..easy solution, just don't allow them to stay in your town. My Dad told me during the Depression in his small city in Central NY hobos would show up and the town would give them a hot meal, a bed for the night, a shower, some clean clothes and $5 and put them on the next bus to Buffalo. It worked...give them a bus ticket out of town...problem solved.
I was a housing analyst about 10 years back for one of the largest banks in the US. I did demographic and GIS analysis of mortgages. I remember that then the what-has-become the Biden Plan was mocked and hissed at. And the Tim Scott approach was gaining great favor. Now, you have to understand that Biden is essentially destroying the indicators of who will fail to become a responsible home owner, whereas Scott is augmenting the standard indicators to find other surrogates or proxies for those indicators.
What makes Biden's plan so stupid is the laziness of abandoning the supplemental indicators (payment on utilities, history of business finances, non-credit-card advances of credit successfully paid off, etc) Biden will drive MORE people into the number of those who are not certifiable for credit and confuse those who are bad risks from those whose risk is fine but needs to found by surrogates or proxies.
As stupid and lazy a man as ever rose to high office.
Canada has a final solution to homelessness.
One third of Canadians fine with prescribing assisted suicide for homelessness
Roughly the same number told a poll they were fine with approving MAID for someone whose only affliction was poverty
"assisted suicide" is the first entry in the dictionary for oxymoron.