The Allen Massacre Underlines the False Promise of 'Universal Background Checks'
Mass shooters typically do not have disqualifying records, and restrictions on private gun sales are widely flouted.

After the mass shooting that killed eight people at a shopping mall in Allen, Texas, last Saturday, President Joe Biden said that horrifying crime reinforced the case for "enacting universal background checks." Yet the perpetrator, who was killed by a police officer at the scene, had been licensed as an armed security guard, which means he passed a background check and was legally allowed to own firearms.
In that respect, the killer was typical of people who commit crimes like this. That is the main reason why expanded background checks cannot reasonably be expected to have much of an impact on mass shootings, contrary to the impression left by politicians who reflexively recommend that solution.
Federal law disqualifies broad categories of Americans from owning firearms, including people who have been convicted of felonies or subjected to court-ordered psychiatric treatment. Background checks are required for all gun sales by federally licensed dealers, and some states extend that requirement to transfers by private sellers.
As several news outlets noted after the Allen attack, Texas is not one of those states. But that detail does not seem relevant in this case: Although the killer bought some guns from private sellers, CNN reported, the rifle he used in the attack was "purchased legally," meaning he was not a "prohibited person" under federal law.
From 2016 to 2020, according to the Texas Online Private Security database, the killer was licensed as an armed guard, a job that is subject to stricter eligibility criteria than the average gun buyer. According to CBS News, "he did not have a serious criminal record."
Nor does it seem that he had the sort of psychiatric record that would have disqualified him from buying a gun. The Washington Post reported that he "joined the Army in June 2008 but was 'terminated' three months later" because of "an unspecified mental health issue" after "failing to complete his initial training."
Such separations, the Post explained, "are meant to quickly force out recruits who can't perform military duties as a result of various physical or behavioral conditions. They are not typically punishments and would not show up on background checks."
Like the Allen killer, most mass shooters do not have records that would be flagged by a background check. In mass shootings from 1982 through April 2023 where the source of weapons was known, Statista reports, 85 percent of the murderers obtained firearms legally.
According to a National Institute of Justice report on public mass shootings from 1966 through 2019, 77 percent of the perpetrators "purchased at least some of their guns legally," while 13 percent made "illegal purchases." In mass shootings at K‒12 schools, more than 80 percent of the killers "stole guns from family members."
Even theoretically, then, expanded background checks could make a difference in only a small share of mass shootings. The experience with state laws requiring background checks for all gun sales provides further reason to temper expectations of what that policy can accomplish.
A 2018 study found that such laws, which require that transactions be completed via licensed dealers, were associated with increased background checks in Delaware but not in Colorado or Washington. That suggests these laws are widely flouted by gun owners who resent the additional expense and inconvenience that compliance entails.
Unlike mass shooters, ordinary criminals often have disqualifying records. But they generally obtain firearms from informal sources that would not be affected by new background-check laws.
Studies that aimed to measure the impact of expanded background checks on homicides have produced mixed results. The RAND Corporation deems the evidence concerning mass shootings "inconclusive."
That's not surprising, since notionally "universal" background checks cannot be effective unless private sellers comply. Enforcement is inherently difficult when the government tries to regulate transactions that, by definition, are unrecorded and inconspicuous.
The policy that Biden recommends is undeniably popular. But there is little reason to think it would work as advertised.
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The Washington Post reported that he "joined the Army in June 2008 but was 'terminated' three months later" because of "an unspecified mental health issue" after "failing to complete his initial training."
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Who said that background check were a 100% predictor for future behaviour?
The articles premise is silly.
It's because he was radicalized by Tim Pool and LibsOfTiktok
When I was in Air Force Basic Training in 1978, two or three recruits soon washed out because physical problems had previously gone undetected. One washed out for mental reasons - he did not fit in and refused to change. (I have no idea why he signed up in the first place.) He may have been saner than the rest of us...
So I'm not very worried about the mental state of someone the military found unsuited for service.
the killer was typical of people who commit crimes like this. That is the main reason why expanded background checks cannot reasonably be expected to have much of an impact on mass shootings
So the obvious solution is to make a law saying it is illegal for mass shooters to own a gun. That would solve the problem right there.
Why not just skip the middle-man there, and make mass shootings illegal to start with? They'd never happen then!
I kinda can't believe nobody has thought of this obvious solution, yet.
Mass shooting free zones!
well, so what? Last I checked murder is already illegal, yet so many people DO it anyway. If they're gonna go off a boatload of innocents, why does anyone think they'd comply with a BGC law?
What makes ME madder'n a wet hen is the stupid fact that, with some 250 million folks who already lawfully ownna gun and have never would not ever use any of them to kill aninnocent, yet I, who have never and would never do such a thing am burdened wuth the time and epense and now a ten day waiting period before I can buy a gun from my neighbiur I've know and trusted for thirty years. Particularly since there ARE ways of enabling ME, the citizen seller who does NOT want to sell to a criminal, to find out if my buyer IS safe to own a gun. It could be done in a few minutes from my phone or internet at no cost, and remain anonymous to anyone but me checking on putative buyer to make shre HE is not inder disability to own guns.
All this means they only want to congtrol and develop a master list of who has what where. A desire the criminals will NEVER be part of.
So the obvious solution is to make a law saying it is illegal for mass shooters to own a gun. That would solve the problem right there.
Actually, the truly obvious solution is to make a law that no one can have a gun.
Just as obvious is that it would never happen in the U.S., so we can discount that as an option even if it might work to keep guns out of the hands of would be mass shooters.
So, what is the solution?
It would be much more effective to pass a law making it illegal for the media to sensationalize mass shootings.
The prospect of the sensationalism encourages would-be shooters.
Not really recommending this -- just saying it would be more effective.
So common sense press control?
Many countries limit speech on "public safety" grounds.
no just leave the sick perp's name and mugshot out of the reporting. If he remains not famous he won't be imitated, as so often happens. How long did we wait until the first school invasion/murder? ANd how many wanna be lookeylikes have we seen since then?
Carol Siemon had this insight.
https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/2021/08/10/ingham-county-prosecutor-lessen-use-felony-firearm-charge/5555564001/
This is what we call an admission.
Just to say what should go without saying, the killings were stopped by a man with a gun.
How about we take the guns away from the IRS and put them in the CMP?
Er, it was stopped by an on-duty police officer, to be precise. I do get your point, but most won't get past that initial fact.
It does illustrate, however, that the problem is not guns, but guns in the hands of the "wrong people". Cops do regularly kill members of the public, but they tend not to commit mass murders at schools.
"Cops do regularly kill members of the public, but they tend not to commit mass murders at schools."
However the number of people cops do kill are counted in the statistics. Including the newspeak "Mass Shootings" stats.
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Miami Vice was a TV show. How often do cops shoot 4 or more people in the same instance in the real world?
Mike Larson will be here soon to rationalize why the Allen shooter recieved multiple articles while Audrey Hale did not.
Oh, does he care?
He only cares when someone calls out the bias of his boo.
I think the most absurd reaction to this particular shooting was Texas Democrats trying to push a new law raising the age requirement to own an AR-style weapon from 18 to 21.
The shooter was 33.
So long as the voting age goes with it, I have no problem with raising the age of majority to 21.
Going to increase the age to join the military to 21 along with that? In addition to overturning the 26th Amendment that was motivated significantly by the Vietnam war and draft of men between 18-21 years old?
anybody ever count how many times a day guns are safely fired in America?
No, but ammo sales might give us an indication. Have you seen any good statistics on that?
I don't know about "safely fired" but several studies have attempted to quantify "defensive uses" (which can include both firing and mere brandishing). While there are methodological challenges to those studies, they are reasonably consistent in estimating that the answer is probably in the low 7 digits per year.
Seriously? Millions of times a year people shoot or brandish a gun in self defense? Odd that I've never known anyone that did that.
"and some states extend that requirement to transfers by private sellers."
No they don't, because the background check system is federal and is not accessible to any one who isn't a licensed dealer.
What some states have done is effectively prohibit private sales, by requiring all such sales go through a licensed dealer and the licensed dealer is required to perform a background check.
What some states have done is effectively prohibit private sales, by requiring all such sales go through a licensed dealer and the licensed dealer is required to perform a background check.
Um, sounds like you are picking at a technicality. If I lived in one of those states and wanted to sell a gun to a friend, would he be paying the dealer running the background check who would then pay me (minus a fee for the check), or are we paying the dealer to run the background check before the gun is transferred between me and the friend?
OK, just thinking out loud here a bit.
1. Let's assume E-verify would have little to no effect on mass shootings. We don't know that is the case, but I think Jacob presented a good case.
2. What are the disadvantages of doing it besides "it likely won't help"? I can think of
a. it will be costly
b. it might be a pain in the ass for businesses
c. database errors could prevent you from making a lawful purchase
What am I missing?
I pose this question because sometimes I think you can trade something that is not a huge deal to you for something that IS a huge deal to you. For example, can you imagine what kind of immigration reforms Trump would have been open to if the Dems had given him his damn wall?
On the surface, a well-executed E-verify doesn't seem that onerous to me, but I haven't thought it completely through.
Opinions and education welcome.
The one thing you might be missing is that you inadvertently posted this comment on the story after the e-Verify story.
First, E-Verify is a federal system about employment. It will not and cannot have any effect on mass shootings because the data it holds and the filters it applies have nothing at all to do with restrictions on gun ownership. But changing your question to the unnamed “universal background check” system, add:
c’. Database errors do more than merely prevent you from making a lawful purchase – they prevent you from making that purchase in times and conditions where the lawful purchase may be lifesaving. Consider the battered wife who needs to protect herself and her children from an abusive spouse.
d. It creates a database of owners that can (and, if history is any predictor of the future, eventually will) be abused for confiscation.
e. It perpetuates and expands the potential for abusive “discretion” such that the politically favored can exercise rights while the politically disfavored can not. f. As we have already seen several states do, this risks being expanded into a requirement not merely for sales but for informal transfers all the way down to letting someone borrow or test a weapon when you’re both on the gun range.
If this were the end of the gun control demands, it might be worth considering even if we didn’t think it would be all that effective. Legislative and regulatory history, unfortunately, suggest instead that this is part of a long-term strategy of incremental attacks against gun ownership and that having traded this away as “not a huge deal”, they’ll keep doubling down until it is a huge deal. Arguably, we are already long past that stage. Despite the clear and unambiguous wording in both state and federal constitutions, gun rights are vastly diminished from what they were in our grandparents’ days and yet gun violence has not been materially reduced by any of those restrictions.
I pose this question because sometimes I think you can trade something that is not a huge deal to you for something that IS a huge deal to you.
OK, trade your right to free speech for your apparently greater need to present yourself as a retard, and shut the hell up.
For example, can you imagine what kind of immigration reforms Trump would have been open to if the Dems had given him his damn wall?
Fuck you. Probably the ones he proposed to Congress, which they flatly rejected without counter proposal, well before he proceeded with rekajiggering the budget to build the wall.
Somthing like E Verify ciuld, and probably should be done, BUT access must be extended to anyone wanting to sell a gun to a specific person wanting to buy it. NICS already exists. It is full of problems and needs cleaned up and standardised. SO MANY "close" names get flagged. Standardise each person's name and other data fields so there are no more confusing files. Full name, date and city and state of birth, mother's or father's given name (user chooses, once chosen it never changes). Current city and state of residence. When I want to sell charlie a gun, I call up or go to their website. Fill in the open fields with the data the buyer gives me, punch GO. It comes back proceed or deny.n The chances of ALL those fields matching for two people in the database are several places to the right of the decimal point. And IF the database does have two identical records it can flag a verification process when the matching one is being built. At that point the system would compare current resudence addresses and determine whether they are two individuals or two files for the same guy. If two, then generate a random four digit number for a personal code. They alread do that. Maybe even have eeveryone select a four digit security code that would become a permanent part of that file.
do all this at no cost, availble 24/365. Once compketed with a "priceed" code, system gives a six digit file number the seller can record. If buyer ever shoots up a school seller can show he checked. No record retained about who sold what to whom, in other words, no database or regustry can ever be built from this. Interstate does not matter. Why shoud it?
Background checks are just an end run around the prohibited firearms registry. There's a record made of the check and it can be assumed that the person being checked bought a weapon. When you cross index that with the records that a Federal Firearms Dealer is required to keep, taadaa instant registry.
Except, of course, for straw purchasers and "the gun show loophole"*.
*To say nothing of the myriad of other fallacies involved in the "the database is reality" thinking.
Background checks are just an end run around the prohibited firearms registry.
Why is a firearms registry prohibited, and who prohibited it?
It's a SNAFU for the same people to say that this shooter or this mass murder was due to "mental illness," when whatever prohibition there was on gun & ammo purchases by those with mental illness did not apply to him. He either had a condition that should have prohibited his 'legal' purchases, or he did not. If not, then those who blame this on a mental illness are simply copping out.
It seems possible that he flashed his 'licensed security guard' card and the gun dealer took that as sufficient, even though it'd be foolish to rely on a background check done by an employer. That check sure didn't consider the shooter's social media posts.
What is a "illegal" sale?
It can't just be one from a non-FFL seller because those are NOT illegal under federal law UNLESS the private seller KNOWS the purchaser in disqualified. Nor are they illegal under 40 plus state laws. Gun owners are not required to be mind readers.
The private sales which are ILLEGAL are repreated sales by persons who are (1) themselves prohibited persons [ie, sale of "trade-ins" by dope dealers] or (2) are breaking the law by repreated sales as a business (and do not hold an FFL).
The weak ststs you provide rstablish no basis for including 99% of all private sales.
It is well and good to make evidence-based arguments for why a proposed solution to a problem is unlikely to work. But what could work? Seems like a rather important question to be asking.
It's important to understand that not every problem has a solution. Believing otherwise gave us "the best Congress money can buy" (that is, campaign finance laws that are used as specifications for how to legally bribe a politician), welfare programs that encourage people to become incompetent at earning a living and making reasonable life decisions, drug laws that not only violate our rights but do far more harm than drug use ever could, and downtown cities becoming war zones.
The closest thing to a solution to mass shootings as well as for other violent crime is for there to be many law-abiding citizens carrying guns. When there is an armed citizen present to shoot back right when it's starting, intended mass shooters generally don't shoot enough people (4) for it to be counted as a mass shooting. When there's no one to stop it until the cops arrive, the average is 14 victims.