Can Mutually Loathing Americans Learn To Leave Each Other Alone?
The country needs a political truce with devolved power.

It's no secret that Americans fundamentally disagree over who should get to jam their vision of the good life down their opponents' throats. We're so at odds that some people even question whether the United States should continue as a unified country. Worse, these divisions are driven less by strong bonds among allies than by hostility to opponents and the institutions they control. As damaging as polarized politics are to domestic tranquility, the hate-based version is even more pernicious since it creates potentially insurmountable barriers.
"Nearly three months after the dawn of a new era of divided government in Washington, Americans express highly negative views of President Joe Biden, the congressional leadership in both parties and Congress more broadly," Pew Research reported last week.
Low approval ratings are par for the course for elected officials these days. But those low ratings conceal significant disagreements among Americans.
"At least six-in-ten Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents continue to express confidence in Biden," Pew adds. "By contrast, Republicans and Republican leaners continue to express low confidence in Biden on every issue."
And the public's low opinion of Congress conceals the fact that Republicans and Democrats alike approve of their own party's leaders in Congress and blame the other side for the body's woes. "Nearly identical majorities of both Republicans and Democrats say that the other party is doing too little to work with their side."
The result is that a majority of Americans across partisan affiliations now believes the country "cannot solve many of its important problems," a reversal from the majority who thought solutions were achievable even through the turbulence of recent years.
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They're All Immoral, Dishonest, and Closed-Minded
Blaming the other side has become a regular feature of American politics, extending far beyond those who wield power in government. Last summer, Pew reported, "Growing shares in each party now describe those in the other party as more closed-minded, dishonest, immoral and unintelligent than other Americans." And by growing shares, we're talking about big jumps over half a decade. "In 2016, about half of Republicans (47%) and slightly more than a third of Democrats (35%) said those in the other party were a lot or somewhat more immoral than other Americans. Today, 72% of Republicans regard Democrats as more immoral, and 63% of Democrats say the same about Republicans."
That's a dramatic increase in mutual loathing by supporters of the two main political parties, which hold roughly equal shares of public support whether you're talking about explicit party identification or those who lean in one direction or the other. Worse, this sort of negative partisanship is the defining feature of contemporary American politics.
"If we use what's called a feeling thermometer, which is commonly used in the political science literature, and you ask voters on a scale of zero to 100 how warm they feel toward a political party, those who are Republican are about as warm toward Republicans now as Republicans were 30 to 40 years ago, and the same holds true for Democrats, on average," Chris Weber, a political scientist at Arizona State University, found in 2020. "What's changed is the striking dip in feelings toward the opposing party, so Democrats are much more cold toward Republicans and Republicans are much more cold toward Democrats."
Hate-Based Politics Aren't as Constructive as You Might Hope
"Viewing half of the country or a large section of the country as antithetical to American democracy is actually really harmful," Weber added. "These are neighbors in many cases. So, I would certainly not call it a good or desirable thing. It's a deleterious characteristic of modern democracy, and it's an outgrowth of political polarization that has potentially very serious consequences."
Part of the problem is that negative partisanship becomes self-reinforcing as activists and political candidates draw on ill-will to build power.
"The use of insults to characterize opponents contributes to the psychological categorization of individuals, and the very usage of pronouns, where entire categories of persons are referred to not by name, but as the impersonal 'them,' depersonalizes and makes it easy to dehumanize them," Georgia State University's Jennifer McCoy and Murat Somer of Turkey's Koç University wrote in a 2018 paper published by The Annals of the American Academy of Political and Social Science.
Insults such as immoral, dishonest, and closed-minded, for example?
Such vilification leads to "negative consequences for democracy…because it questions who has the right to live in a polity as a full citizen—membership vs. non-membership—and whether one group can claim exclusive legitimacy to represent the citizens in government," add McCoy and Somer.
In a National Divorce, Who Gets the Kids?
Such questions have some Americans favoring "national divorce" by which states dominated by different factions go their own way. Reason recently hosted a debate on the idea, and it's not an inherently unserious proposal. While secessions are often messy, peaceful separation worked well enough for what was Czechoslovakia, under the right conditions. But the idea has limited support.
"One in five Americans supports a national divorce, where Republican-leaning states form a separate country from Democratic-leaning states, while 77% oppose it," the Axios-Ipsos Two Americas Index found last month. Unfortunately, the poll also reported that "only 37% of Americans said they're optimistic about the state of our democracy" and "nearly 2 in 3 Americans now say there's more that divides us than unites us" with partisan hostility the major point of contention.
Low support for national divorce is just as well. Since the geographical borders of the political divide are defined less by state lines than by counties and gradations of population density between cities and the countryside, anything of the sort would be more challenging than splitting a central European country along lines of language and culture.
But that still leaves us with Americans who despise each other, distrust institutions in the hands of their political opponents, and see little way forward. Is that an omen of continuing battles over control of government bodies to keep them out of hostile hands and useful as weapons against hated others?
Instead of a national divorce, what America needs is a truce. We've spent decades turning a federal system into a centralized government only to discover that it's too dangerous to place under the control of those with whom we disagree. If we can't trust the presidency and Congress in the hands of the "enemy," we should devolve power to levels people can trust.
That devolution can be by law, as unlikely as that seems, with bodies further up the political food chain surrendering authority to localities and individuals. Or we could peacefully build upon what we're already doing with sanctuary cities that scorn immigration restrictions and Second Amendment sanctuaries protecting self-defense rights. Ignoring dictates from on high is a more promising—or, at least, less conflict-ridden—path forward than trying to capture and hold the heights of power.
Going our own way without completely separating may be the best way to get along.
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While the divisive nature of politics today is bad for the country it is profitable for those involved. Every controversy can be used to generate calls for donations. The saying is never waste a crisis and today it should be every crisis generates dollars.
Politicians will not solve this problem, people will and the way to stop is to stop sending money.
That is true. I quit sending the national LP a penny since the Comstockist nazi takeover. I do have donation money for State or county LPs that have preserved the original 1972 plank enforcing individual rights for females to choose. Infiltrators alienated thoughtful female support for the LP as of 1980. Orange Hitler, Palito, Long Dong and Mutterkreuz Mom are pointing to what comes next.
The solution is simple.
EVERY conflict between people results from claimed or presumed truth that is not or can not be proven with correctly applied logic and science. Don’t do it.
What rational or credible person admits that they deny the truth of correctly applied logic and science? People aren’t in conflict when they agree.
If only irrational people cause conflict by lying, what possible benefit comes from tolerating it?
Criminalize lying.
You constantly lie here. You would end up in prison for life. Fucking jew hating Nazi shitbag.
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The fact that you can’t prove your claim that I’ve lied demonstrates your bigotry.
Big Brother May I share the lies you and your ilk believe for entertainment purposes only?
Fuck Off, Nazi!
Nothing has stopped you from lying before.
Fill your boots. Nobody takes you seriously anyways.
Choosing to have an individual killed isn’t initiating force? On what planet?
It’s going to be either peaceful secession or Civil War.
There’s no way That normal people can live with tyrants who want to disarm the citizens and force boys into girls locker rooms.
Who want to dictate what kind of car we drive, and even mandate our lightbulbs and toilets.
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What would be most thrilling would be a civil war not preceded by geographic separation. Imagine the brother slitting the sister’s throat and blaming it on the dog, the dog blaming it on the cat, etc.! Like maybe half the population wiped out the first night of the war then half the remainder the next morning, etc., and nobody could trust anybody until the population was down to like 1 per square mile.
BZ chemtrails. That’s the answer.
The only good Republican is a Dead Republican.
The only good demonicrat is one that is on fire????????
The only good Vendicar Decarian is a headless Vendicar Decarian.
There is no both sides! There is only one side! Republicans! Everyone else is evil, and that included libertarians who support leftists! Stop with the both sides!
Ever since Lincoln imposed the National Socialist Union upon us, there has truly only been one side in US politiks.
End the Union with it’s property tax and the bulk of our nation’s problems become solve able.
Dude. If I’ve learned anything from the comments it’s that true libertarians are Republicans, true Americans are Republicans, and anyone who isn’t a Republican is evil. It’s literally good vs evil. If the other side wins then it will be hell on earth. The only thing that can save us is Republicans. Don’t you pay any attention?
Your tired diatribe is so dull now only the newbies respond, and they think you are serious. Explaining your schtick seems pathetic. Give it a rest and try to add something of value like you seem to be able to do on occasion. In between remember the old adage :
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.
When Sarcasmic thinks he has made a clever, he’ll abuse it without rest until it’s dead.
What’s old and dull is the constant refrain that Republicans are good, and everything else is bad. When libertarians disagree with Republicans that means they agree with everything leftist. It’s tiresome.
Here’s an old adage for you:
The lesser of two evils is still evil.
So, a constant refrain gets old, dull and tiresome and your response to that is an old, dull and tiresome constant refrain. Got it.
Maybe take your advice, with apologies to the original.
The lesser of two old, dull and tiresome refrains is still old, dull and tiresome.
I’ll tell you what. Stop accusing libertarians of being leftists whenever they disagree with Republicans, and I’ll stop pointing it out. Fair?
Fair, except that an old army of occupation training film correctly explains it is pointless to argue with or unbrainwash Nazis. Once Big Pharma and Hitler–Orange or mustachioed–has hypnotized them, they stay hypnotized. Outvoting them, on the other hand…
Not something I have ever done in the comments. My advice still stands.
Edit: The LibertarianTranslator has your back though. Good stuff.
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If you don’t do it, then don’t react defensively when the topic comes up.
Next time someone agrees with you I should imply that you agree with everything they say. But I won’t.
i was reacting to your posting style with no reference to the topic at all. It was hardly defensive and in fact a suggestion to improve the comments you seem to think are so slanted against liberals.
You can imply whatever you want. I don’t care. It won’t make your constant refrain posts any more interesting.
Hey bitch, when are you going to come kick my ass? I’ve been waiting for months now. You’re not just some loudmouth pussy, are you?
“With friends like these…”
Well, at least he stopped doing the “THIS ARTICLE DOESN’T EXIST!” bit.
So, MAGA, MAGA, lock her up!
Bully dem bitches to squeeze out pups! This is new and refreshing? Who’s next after Comstock laws? Nuremberg laws?
Ask Biden, he’s the one making law today.
So tell us in 2023 how the major party priorities compare to libertarian principles, and which party might be the better ally?
Run away little girl! Run away……
You do know that property taxes are local, right? And that Southern politicians like to impose and raise them too, right?
There is no both sides!
Correct. There is only one side.
The side that is correct.
Currently, the republicans are working more towards being correct. The democrats are actively working to be wrong.
The republicans are working towards policies that we KNOW work for people–even if they are pursuing some that are questionable at best and bad at worst.
But the democrats are singularly pursuing policies that have been shown to cause active harm. They are not working towards anything that is correct –worse, they also strive against anyone implementing policies that DO work, that ARE correct and that do help.
Better Dead than Republican.
I would rather see you dead than Republican!
Dear Vendi,
I only had one single party of 5 as far as I can remember.
It’s always by the dozen, normally.
I am sorry that I couldn’t
remember you. So, I read some more in your archive and I can
see that you are also Scott Nudds. I now do vaguely recall your
presence at that lousy party of 5 where you must have been the
one who creamed in his pants when I took my bra off and then
the other guys laughed at you and called you “Scuttle Nutts”.
So, that was you Vendi, the old Scott Nudds? Isn’t that something?
Either way, Vendi, I think I’ve made a wrong call on you. See, dear,
Short-dick/Quick-cumers like you are not best sellers in the adult
movie biz. I hope you’ll understand that. Biz is biz. I’m sorry, dear.
With love,
Naomi Goldstein-Goldman
PS: Of course, my mom did teach me the art. The question is also
mutual: Your mom must have been teaching you the art too, huh?
“Libertarians” who support leftists are a fucking joke.
There is one side which is by ideological bent not open to a devolution of power, and not wanting g to leave other people alone. Which thinks if they can just craft the perfect law they can straighten the crooked timber of humanity and bring on a utopian society. Look at the regulatory policies that the Biden Administration pumped out over the last few weeks and explain how they have an interst in leaving anyone alone.
Absolutely true. One side has spent the last hundred years advocating centralization and is actively hostile to local control. Don’t see how they are likely to compromise.
+10000000000 ^^THIS^^
The left absolutely, 100% refuses to leave anyone else alone.
They are full totalitarian, and their goal is to ruin your life.
Tuccille knows this but is a lying, malignant clump of cancer.
^^This^^
We the people own this land. It is our property as is the government, including the schools.
There is no reason to concede any of it to thieves and trespassers.
You mean icky immigrants? The ones who are trespassing on their employer’s land, their landlord’s land, and the grocery store’s land? Funny thing is that the employers, landlords and grocery stores don’t seem to mind.
Immigrants or illegal immigrants, Sarcasmic?
You wouldn’t be trying to conflate the two again for the purposes of rhetoric, would you?
The ones entering through the windows of skyscrapers for Allah, on the other hand…
While you sometimes make good points, you are just too much of an asshole to be taken seriously. [MUTE]
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Was it something I said?
Ask your local government
https://www.themainewire.com/2022/11/maine-illegal-alien-asylum-seeker-welfare/
No pussy, we’re talking about illegals. Not immigrants.
Apparently they do mind or everyone would be voting for open borders instead of controlled immigration dumb*ss.
It’s true they won’t leave people alone, and endstate of their goals IS ruination of the American middle class.
The problem with the left is, a large chunk believe they are doing it for your own good. They honestly and earnestly believe that the best way to run a society is by permanent bureaucracy.
Like the man says, the worst tyrant is the one who believe he’s doing it for your own good. He can justify anything.
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be “cured” against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”
― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (Making of Modern Theology)
That describes liberals to a T. Nosy, busy bodies who want to control everyone. aka communism.
Too bad CLew didn’t reach his fellow Christians,with these wise words.
Humorous how Christians always gets the blame when it is actually a certain sector of Catholics who do all the Gov-Gun religious legislation. While also being generally the religious affiliation of the left-leaning party.
The problem with the left is, a large chunk believe they are doing it for your own good. They honestly and earnestly believe that the best way to run a society is by permanent bureaucracy.
I used to believe this, but the New Left is not really in that camp. The New Left is a kind of offshoot of Marxist ideology where the goal is to destabilize the status quo (that being patriarchal capitalism) which will open the path up to instituting a new type of system– one that they would of course control. Sure, maybe the ‘new type of system’ is, in their opinion more egalitarian and fair… so yes at the very far end of this multi-step plan is a ‘for your own good’ nugget tossed in there. But like the Marxists and Trotskyists of old, they don’t care how many bodies they have to pile up to do it, and some have even said as much.
The New Left is a kind of offshoot of Marxist ideology where the goal is to destabilize the status quo (that being patriarchal capitalism) which will open the path up to instituting a new type of system– one that they would of course control.
That is almost precisely what Rothbard argued in creating the paleolibertarian (right wing populist) strategy
The Marxists have correctly pointed out that a social system collapses when the ruling class becomes demoralized and loses its will to power; manifest failure of the communist system brought about that demoralization. But doing nothing, or relying only on educating the elites in correct ideas (the Hayekian model), will mean that our own statist system will not end until our entire society, like that of the Soviet Union, has been reduced to rubble. Surely, we must not sit still for that. A strategy for liberty must be far more active and aggressive.
Hence the importance, for libertarians or for minimal government conservatives, of having a one-two punch in their armor: not simply of spreading correct ideas (the Hayekian model which he really didn’t like at all and didn’t think they were really ‘correct ideas’ at all), but also of exposing the corrupt ruling elites and how they benefit from the existing system, more specifically how they are ripping us off. Ripping the mask off elites is “negative campaigning” at its finest and most fundamental.
I don’t think that’s quite it. I think “retribution” for Western Civilization is the #1 driving leftist force.
-1619 project
– hundreds of years of slavery
– hundreds or thousands of years of suppression of women
– hundreds or thousands of years of suppression of LGBTQXYZ
– hundreds or thousands of years of suppression of non-Christians (which is how weird shit happens like Muslims, who suppress women and LBGTQXYZ more than anyone, still get to sit at the “oppressed” table)
Time to turn the tables for a few hundred years and suppress, in this order (1) white people; (2) males; (3) straight; (4) Christian. If you’re all 4? Oh man are you in for it. BUT YOU DESERVE IT. Because “the sins of the fathers are the sins of the son.” So sit down and STFU.
Injustice? No, we could spend several hundred years sacrificing all straight white male Christians at birth and it wouldn’t be injustice. BECAUSE THEY DESERVE IT.
What happens to the US in the meantime? Eh, whatever. Goals are goals.
“. If you’re all 4? Oh man are you in for it.”
Yes, if you’re not careful you might even become president, or worse, one of the nation’s wealthiest citizens.
So you’re one of them. Thanks for identifying yourself.
“So you’re one of them. ”
Not quite. I have a fair amount of Welsh and Irish in my ancestry. Doubtless it saved me from the fate of wealth and power that all too many proper white, male, heterosexual Christians are doomed to suffer.
An important note is that I was describing the psychology of the leftist. Not their power. We must fight if we want the psychology not to come true, with power. “Both sides” will not win that fight.
“We must fight if we want the psychology not to come true, with power. ”
You’re not fighting anything. You’re reveling in resentment and victimhood, like the other reactionaries on the board.
Tom-ay-to to-mah-to.
One man’s freedom fighter is another man’s reveler.
Eye of the beholder.
Etc.
I still think everything you mention fits into the category. The 1619 project is another example of ‘desconstructive’ argumentation which is meant to destabilize the current system with the goal of replacing it with something else.
I agree, as did erstwhile commenter John. They seek its replacement by anything else, and then that again by yet something else. What might be the ultimate is the current fad to, not abolish the sexes, for that would be too easy, but insisting the sexes are real but can never be delineated by objective criteria. It’s a perfect mindfuck, with nobody assured an understanding of anything.
“It’s a perfect mindfuck, with nobody assured an understanding of anything.”
The CRT business is laying the groundwork for when whites in America are a minority of the population. Unlike you, the state has its eye on the future. It has to position itself to thrive under changing demographics. Your reaction is to cling on to white privileges, whether that’s idolizing those who fought to preserve slavery, or any other politically incorrect belief from the days of white supremacy.
I will be dead before that happens, I hope you are dead sooner by the hand of the dirtbags that you feed upon!
It’s really not ‘retribution’ at all but instead *excuses* to build [WE] identity-affiliation gangs to wield Gov-Gun Power and dictate those ‘icky’ people.
One either focuses on Individual Liberty and Justice for all or they spend all their time focusing on Gang-Affiliation wars of Gov-Guns and “democracy”.
The USA is a *Constitutional* Republic NOT a democracy.
Remember that a basic tenet of Marxism is constant struggle, including violence. The means is actually the ends.
It IS an offshoot of Marxist ideology. Where do you think they got it from? Marxist professors at university.
Joe McCarthy was correct.
“Americans fundamentally disagree over who should get to jam their vision of the good life down their opponents’ throats.”
Boaf sides, really? No, I am not about “jam[ing]” any sort of vision down anyone’s throats; if you are born gay, be gay. I you don’t like guns, don’t buy one. If you are compelled to see yourself as a different gender from what you were born, knock yourself out and do drag or get surgery or whatever. But do not tell me what I should have, what I may or may not say, and how I should live my life.
I will admit that I am opposed to participating in a society where I and others are compelled to provide sustenance to those who hate me.
“If you’re against abortion, don’t get one.”
Too far?
Yes. The pro-life position is that abortion involves killing another human. It’s fundamentally different from the other examples, because those don’t involve killing another human.
Only problem is their “murder” case is about as valid as, “Climate Change is killing everyone.”
So no; It really isn’t any different.
how about – if you are against murder, work to prevent it?
Or, don’t murder.
Amd stop people from murdering.
There is a simple way to prevent 65% of murders in the USA, unfortunately it may NOT be mentioned!
And yet NOT A SINGLE Pro-Lifer has EVER introduced legislation that stops a doctor from “murdering” their precious unicorn.
You all have avoided the right to fetal ejection time and time again and ************pretend************** a free fetus has to be murder….
Fantasy land excuses to Power-Mad… Just like Climate Change. Just like imaginary racism, sexism etc, etc, etc, etc, etc…………
Or lets just *define* Pro-Life’s “murder” definition.
“That other person wouldn’t DONATE their organs to save a life; therefore that person is a murderer!!!!!” 100% accurate.
Pro-Life = Gov-Gun Mandated Organ Donation….
Or specifically Gov-Gun FORCED reproduction.
“Too far?” absolutely NOT!!!!
A point that should be brought up more often.
Ignoring one’s own tyrannical tendencies doesn’t address the issue.
I’m fully within my rights to absolutely oppose my neighbor who intentionally votes for politicians who will rob me to pay for their vision of utopia. That’s a rationale response to a threat, not hate. I’d have more respect for their integrity if they simply came over, knocked on my door and robbed me face to face.
They do it covertly through taxation/theft.
It’s time to Exterminate the Republican Traitors.
Its time to liquidate the vile, evil leftists!
How are you going to do that from Canada, Scott?
https://twitter.com/KatieDaviscourt/status/1646529419782283274?t=uJEuFWMGO9Tif6NVmZSjUw&s=19
Last night, Washington state passed SB 5599 which allows the state to legally take children away from their parents if they don’t consent to their child’s gender transition surgeries.
All Democrats voted, yes.
All Republicans voted, no.
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BOTH SIDES!
There are three sides. The mystical collectivist looter kleptocracy, the lay collectivist looter kleptocracy and the 1972 Libertarian Party. Both looter factions want more deadly coercion. The original Libertarians these sockpuppets struggle to ignore want less.
No, there’s one legitimate side. Government leaves the kids alone. If government tries to mutilate someone’s kid, they are fully justified to use any force necessary. Including deadly force, to stop them.
About that “throat jamming….”
Seriously, how can any “so called journalist” pretend that this isn’t a very/ entirely one sided methodology?
The Republican problem can be solved with a few bullets and a few meters of rope and some tree branches.
Let the bodies pile high.
Meters of rope… you showed your hand pudlicker!
banditski
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16 yr. ago
This is pretty hilarious.
I know this guy from when I was a kid. He and my dad started a business together writing computer software for schools. It never went anywhere – at all.
I was only 14 or so at the time (late 80s) but I remember my dad (who understood programming only on a simple level) saying that all of Scott’s code was incredibly complicated in the sense that no one could read it or understand it (i.e. spaghetti logic). Scott was the quintessential guy you didn’t want to be picking up his code after him to maintain it. To be fair, this was from my dad (again, a non-programmer) and I’m remembering it 20 year later.
I never disliked Scott, but he was sort of an odd fellow. Definitely had the air of someone that thought they were WAY smarter than anyone else in the room.
Bipartisan bill since a republican once used the term trans.
Also children are state property now since some parent somewhere may abuse them. Or something.
Fail to see how this does not run thoroughly afoul of the Constitution.
I fail to see why we allow democrats to exist.
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1646245658544799744?t=4vUn8O5wzhtBkz79MfOeSQ&s=19
EXCLUSIVE: The Biden administration is looking at expanding how it monitors social media sites and chatrooms after U.S. intelligence failed to realize classified Pentagon documents circulated online for weeks, officials briefed on the matter say.
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Instead, maybe they should be more selective about who handles classified materials. They can start by preventing senile, retarded senators from taking classified documents home and stowing them in the garage their crackhead kid has access.
https://twitter.com/InezFeltscher/status/1646534373414432771?t=joSl2ND6jB1W17dsRzjrtw&s=19
I didn’t know until yesterday that there is a systematic and organized attempt to disbar every lawyer who worked for Trump in his election cases, a flashing red warning for any lawyer who might work against a sacred cow in the future. Incredible that this isn’t bigger news.
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As always, the failure is with us, and we’re the ones who need to be policed. Not the DoD who failed to protect classified information, and MOST ESPECIALLY not the administration’s garbage Ukraine policy.
Note the increased usage of sanctions against any republican lawyer. It is the next step in lawfarw to make it illegal to push conservative legal theory in courts.
Republicans are traitors.
Traitors are made for public execution.
We no longer have a legitimate federal government.
Absolutely correct!
One more bullet… One less Republican.
Poison the street drugs, orders of magnitude less leftists!
It’s important to remember that Democrats and Republicans are equally to blame, because Democrats want to take your kids away and turn them trans, while Republicans want to let you carry your gun without a permit.
Note to foreign readers: This nationalsocialist sockpuppet exemplifies the previous succession movement. Southerners wanted to enslave and rape black women and used the Constitution to enshrine Fugitive Slave laws. Look at a map of U.S. States that made slavery mandatory and compare it with those that now unperson and force women into involuntary labor of reproduction in violation of the 13th Amendment. Similar, no?
” Look at a map of U.S. States that made slavery mandatory”
Yeah man, all those democrats back then sure loved their slaves.
You support killing individuals.
Donate your organs or your killing individuals?
Is that what I just read?
Devolving power to local levels is never going to happen. The State is never going to give up its power.
We are not ruled by the president or congress. We are ruled by the bureaucratic state, which has near-total power over every aspect of American life. Note that EPA rulemaking is what is being used to attack middle class prosperity, not congressional lawmaking. Every three-letter agency has its own well-armed police force. Sure, you can sue them, but they have the all the money and time in the world. You may win your case eventually, but by that time, you’re already ruined.
Some people are fine with that. In fact, they believe it’s how the country should be run, with the permanent bureaucracy governing every aspect of how people live.
Other people just want to be left alone and make their own decisions. How can the second group reconcile with the first group? The two world views are diametrically opposed, and fundamentally incompatible.
Tucille is naive if he thinks the permanent bureaucracy and the people who want it will EVER tolerate other people not living under its control.
We are ruled by the bureaucratic state, which has near-total power over every aspect of American life.
Yes. That was the goal of the Progressive movement, and they’ve largely succeeded.
The source of the problem is Congress delegating rulemaking power to the executive. The solution to the problem is to take that power away from the executive. Either Congress can take it back with legislation, or the Supremes can invalidate the legislation that delegated the power away.
I’m not going to hold my breath either way since nobody has an incentive to do anything about it.
The fascists will win in the end, because there is no way to force people to be free.
Not in a “democracy” there isn’t.
And that’s the VERY reason they will win. And they know it. That’s why they keep pretending the USA is a “democracy” instead of *SUPREME LAW* Constitutional Republic.
“Some people are fine with that. In fact, they believe it’s how the country should be run, with the permanent bureaucracy governing every aspect of how people live.
Other people just want to be left alone and make their own decisions. How can the second group reconcile with the first group? The two world views are diametrically opposed, and fundamentally incompatible.”
This is what we in the Internet commenting business call a ‘just so story’ – an untestable narrative explanation for a cultural practice, a biological trait, or behavior of humans or other animals.
We make our own decisions regarding our family relations, work and living arrangements. As for those who say they just want to be left alone, their actions say otherwise.
Americans are overwhelmingly statists. The bureaucracy is baked into the mix, whether it’s government, corporate, military or any other arm of the state. The notion of a state without an ever expanding bureaucracy is a childish daydream.
See; 1783 to 1914 America.
“1783 to 1914 America.”
Louisiana Purchase, Alaska Purchase, conquest and absorption of Indian territories, Philippines etc, establishment and growing influence of courts, post office, marshal service, military branches, corporations, universities, departments of state, interior etc.
“…establishment and growing influence of courts, post office, marshal service, military branches, corporations, universities, departments of state, interior etc…”
Some of these are not like the others.
“This is what we in the Internet commenting business call a ‘just so story’ – an untestable narrative explanation for a cultural practice, a biological trait, or behavior of humans or other animals…”
Followed by:
“…Americans are overwhelmingly statists. The bureaucracy is baked into the mix, whether it’s government, corporate, military or any other arm of the state. The notion of a state without an ever expanding bureaucracy is a childish daydream.”
Is it any wonder that most folks here consider JFree a lying lefty ignoramus?
Is it any wonder that most folks here consider *trueman* a lying lefty ignoramus?
Sorry.
Problem is; Those who want to rule don’t want to be ruled.
There are more than enough ‘options’ to MOVE to a tyrannical nation. Yet; many *escape* a tyrannical nation to insist upon ruling the USA.
When it all comes out in the wash; Most of it’s all about eating someone else’s greener pasture (Armed-Theft).
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1646855856993054721?t=QE2tWQF94VK4Viwu93aS9w&s=19
I can barely put into words how dangerous and twisted it is that it is now the NYT and WashPost that does the FBI’s job for it by hunting down leakers of classified information — the people on whom real journalism depends — working in tandem with state-funded Bellingcat:
Look how Democratic Party media personalities — in both this tweet and the replies that follow — are treating as normal, *celebrating*, that it’s now major media corporations that do the FBI’s work.
Dems are 100% aligned with the US Security State:
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https://twitter.com/SystemUpdate_/status/1646680924883496961?t=cRnx3eL4vfZkIMeKJ6rnpw&s=19
SUPERCUT: Rather than press the govt on the content within the Ukraine Docs leak, “journalists” used today’s Pentagon briefing to demand that more be done to prevent future leaks.
This should be unthinkable—what kind of journalists push for *less* govt transparency?!
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The union of the party and the media is almost complete.
The journalist class is the enemy of the people. They always turn out to be that way.
From the Bolsheviks and even before that.
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Taylor Lorenz.
The entire staff of WaPO, N.Y. Times, ABC,CBS, NBC, MSNBC, NPR, PBS, CNN, Fox news,….in truth just about everyone working for a news paper or tv channel is an agent of the state. Their only purpose as stenographers for the state.
“There are two things I live by, I don’t believe anything the government says and I don’t take very seriously anything the mainstream media says.” George Carlin.
“If you vote, you have no right to complain.”
https://twitter.com/active_sleeper/status/1646616727625650176?t=QwuyQjRwW9KqJeCRswUUtA&s=19
As a reminder this is a humiliation ritual & propaganda designed to whip up certain demographics into thinking productive demographics stole everything & have no redeeming history, that way when the government orders mass killings & looting they’ll do it with a sense of justice
Not like they need a reason, the machine is just trying to boost morale & future efficiency
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Wasn’t Cleopatra Greek?
Why are they taking roles away from proud Mediterranean Greek women and giving them to other people!?!?!
(No, that was rhetorical. I know the answer already.)
“Wasn’t Cleopatra Greek?”
Close. Try Macedonian.
I thought she was Amish.
The way to satisfy an Amish Woman is two Mennonite.
I’m all for a return to federalism as an alternative to national divorce. I’m also not naïve. The whole issue runs into Spooner’s critique. Either federalism gave us the system we have today or it was powerless to stop it. Either way, it’s hard to see where, absent any changes, we wind up with a fix through federalism. And a host of the issues are ones that the managerial-technocratic progressives simply aren’t going to be willing to devolve. Is it likely that we might expect to see the central bank devolved to local currencies? Almost certainly not. Climate change policy? If you believe that fossil fuels are endangering life on earth as we know it, do you think you’d be okay with your neighbor threatening us all? Gun rights? The longstanding progressive critique is that guns make their way to urban areas from rural locations. The list could go on for hours. Essentially managerial-technocratic progressivism is an ideology predicated on centralization of control. It’s delusional to think federalism can provide an answer to that.
The looter Kleptocracy does everything it can do memory-hole Lysander Spooner, make crimes of vices and use those to rob and kill people. I would be surprised to learn his name has been mentioned in Germany or Russia since 1933. Mistaking altruism for ethics leads to mistaking vices for crime and believing robbery and murder are freedom. How long does it take to observe this?
Just bring up Lysander Spooner to members of your family or any acquaintance and see the reaction.
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It raises an interesting question: if we could totally re-write the Constitution with the benefit of hindsight, what would we change? Or is the flaw the fact that the Founders’ vision cannot be maintained without a citizenry dedicated to preserving their mutual rights as more important than any less important disagreements they might have with each other, and therefore impossible?
Grant the right to vote to anyone, regardless of sex or race, who was a net tax payer, and nobody else. For one.
The problem was the Civil War. The ultimate enforcement mechanism of federalism was supposed to be that the states could simply walk off. Even if not exercised, the threat alone was a check on central power. I’m not trying to justify the confederacy. It was fighting on behalf of an abomination (slavery). But, their argument on secession was dead on right. And once the federal government won the war, the ratchet only turned toward greater centralization of power (direct election of Senators, the rise of the administrative state, professionalization of political management).
The Constitution was amended per the requirements of amending it.
That’s is a lot different than IGNORING it.
Go back to the Articles of Confederation with a Bill of Rights and end there.
“Or is the flaw the fact that the Founders’ vision cannot be maintained without a citizenry dedicated to preserving their mutual rights”
^^^ THIS ^^^
And lets not pretend that the USA’s massive unchecked immigration didn’t have anything to do with that.
guns make their way to urban areas from rural locations
Build the wall.
No they do not. Guns make their way into cities by other nefarious means.
Mention the CIA .
https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1646696738013454336?t=8wM50CW4NRDkbv8nLtPMug&s=19
Your primary care provider was bribed to suggest you should take the COVID vaccine.
[Lunk]
My doctor has never mentioned the “vaccine” to me. I guess his check got lost in the mail.
Steve Ditko’s occupation platoon watched training films like “Don’t be a Sucker,” about how fascist ideologues divide up populations. Another, “Your Job In Germany” explains it is pointless to argue with or unbrainwash Nazis. Tuccille and Zack might watch these on Youtube before erecting more soapbox platforms for Alabama’s Germanic Von Mises caucus. Nick already let these National Socialist infiltrators expose themselves as tentacles of girl-bullying mystical collectivism. Surely God’s Own Prohibitionist party offers enough of that!
Shorter Libertariantranslator: “If you don’t give my side absolute power, the Nazis win!”
Keep Steve Ditko’s name out of your fucking mouth, you senile red diaper baby.
Uh, excuse me, Inspector Luger, but “Don’t Be A Sucker” falsely portrayed Nazis as anti-Catholic. And Ludwig Von Mises and his wife Margit barely escaped with their lives from the Nazis. Please don’t confuse the Von Mises name with those who use the name in vain.
The reason I loathe the commies is becuase they dont want to leave me alone.
I”ll happily live next door to a communist if he keeps his communism to just him and his friends.
It’s like you’ve never seen Hamilton. You should be on your knees thanking him for his vision of what America has become.
I’d rather give thanks for Burr. His only problem was that he was about 20 years too late.
Any primer of History will show that one side is wrong (again) and must be defeated, politically or by force, or better yet, ‘….by any means necessary…’. In today’s ‘climate’ the Founders would have skipped the Declaration of Independence and proceeded directly to war.
However, in this case the “one side” that is wrong is the warring parties in the feud. The other side is all the rest of us who wish that the Republicans and the Democrats would just wander off somewhere and get lost, and leave us alone.
No, the wrong side is the left/establishment.
Your both-sides faith is nothing but shallow cope you use to stab liberty in the back.
Lefty-propaganda has convinced everyone that all Republicans are tyrannical puritans. Humorously a lot of Republicans in office are following suite.
You must have forgotten the night when the @GOP decided that their plan after the black man was elected – the night they vowed to OBSTRUCT everything proposed by the new president or his party.
They vowed, & failed, to make Obama a 1 term potus. They even went as far as denying their own plans, Rubio’s immigration plan is a great example, when the black man liked it.
Before the black man, it was the hip hillbilly who got a blow job. After Bush’s loss, the only objective of the GOP is to avoid getting caught like Nixon.
Obama was a [Na]tional So[zi]alist just like most of his predecessors and definitely like Biden.
But of course you’ll throw out the BS racist card while not realizing the first Black politician was elected by the Republican party.
You leftards are all the same… [WE] identity-affiliation gang building politics.
“Going our own way without completely separating may be the best way to get along.”
In other words, actual Federalism. Hmm.
You cannot ‘get along’ with fascists; you must submit or conquer.
“You cannot ‘get along’ with fascists; you must submit or conquer.”
So, what, pray tell, do you see as a solution? Don’t be shy, now.
A reasonable solution could come from the States, not directly challenging the Federal govt on policy like sexual mutilation of kids or CRT but to create gold depositories and allow local banks or people to then use bills backed by said gold for economic transactions. Constitutionally it is legal and would undermine the ability of the Federal Gov to run debts to pay off wokedom and fund wars. Hit them in monetary policy and the whole charade since Nixon goes down.
That sounds interesting.
The Great State of Missouri has started that process!
+1000000000 the conquer and consume party…..
The solution is to NOT give them UN-Constitutional POWER.
What the Judiciary is suppose to do and judiciaries who break that should be kicked out as treasonous traitors.
No, because progressivism is all encompassing. In fact, US progressives want to impose their will and ideology not just on Americans but on the world.
But these arguments are ironic coming from a magazine whose writers reject and despise subsidiarity.
Subsidiarity is not an absolute, it’s a general “guideline” principle, a statement of how the world tends to work. All you have to do is cite one example where a central authority did something good that could not have been done at the more local level – for example, banning slavery – and you refute any notion that ALL such decisions MUST be done at the local level. I suggest that the Bill of Rights must be imposed on every state by the Supreme Court in order to have any mutually-recognized benefit for people to preserve a government of laws.
The Fourteenth Amendment imposes the Bill of Rights on all states.
It’s done a terrible job of that re: 2A in places like CA and NY and MA…
The underlying problem are territorial residents that call themselves ‘democrats’. Just relocate them far outside the US.
Or close, just below the sod!
Subsidiarity doesn’t mean “ALL such decisions MUST be done at the local level”. Get yourself a dictionary.
Yes, you and that effing progressive proto-fascist FDR are on the same page there.
Progressive in Politics = Aggressive Gov-Gun usage.
Actually, one side hates freedom, the other hates fascism.
Not going to reconcile that divide.
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Since I view the biggest single threat to me as the threat to liberty by both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party, I think of the mutual hatred between the Republicans and Democrats as, if not “constructive,” at least the least bad of a range of possibilities at this point. Saying polarization isn’t a good thing, while it may be true, is kind of pointless right now. Also, the way it’s being said is beyond weak-kneed, it’s craven and cowardly without a solution.
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Who fucks with us the most, vs the least?
Yeah.
The biggest threat to liberty are people like you, people who pretend to favor liberty but know nothing and promote illiberal policies.
This is not new. My two sets of grandparents were never on speaking terms, as one was FDR New Dealers and the other Eisenhower Republicans. So how the hell did my parents ever meet in such a world? Crazy, huh. Even in my slightly more recent childhood, the church was divided in the left pews where the Democrats sat, the right pews where the Republicans sat, and the front few rows where the “Contemporary Christians” sat. (Yes, I am from that era).
But something has changed. And a friend pointed out what it was recently.
Back then one did not talk politics in polite company. And only talked religion when at church. One certainly did NOT bring up either at a polite dinner party. Even bars would toss out those who violated that unwritten rule.
Today politics/religion (it’s now become a single thing) has become the only topic for most people. Even sports talk at the water cooler has devolved into politics about sports. And the essence of politics is hate. Hate for the other team. Hate for everything they stand for. They’re another tribe who need to be eliminated.
That’s the other thing that has changed, the hyperbole. It’s off the scale. Back in her day my grandma may have firmly believed that all non-Lutherans were going to Hell, today her kind believe that non-Democrats are going to hell (she was on the new dealer side). Republicans are no better, and possibly worse, as there are actual QAnon members in congress now who literally believe in a satanic pederast ring operated by the DNC. My own mother told me, with a straight face, that Jesus was a Republican.
So we first need to dial back the hyperbole. Dial it way back. And next, stop talking politics in polite company, especially partisan politics.
This is not new. My two sets of grandparents were never on speaking terms, as one was FDR New Dealers and the other Eisenhower Republicans.
So they were remarkably close then.
You will never get any agreement as to what constitutes “hyperbole” in today’s climate. Much political terminology today accepted as “non-hyperbolic” originated as hyperbole that one side convinced the corporate media to accept. You’ll have to somehow convince the corporate media to go along with your plan. And they chose sides on most issues years ago.
Oklahoma is a good counter example. It’s arguably the nation’s most reactionary state, but it’s also been the most progressive state. There are many features that confound the narrative of a deeply and irreconcilably divided populace.
2018. Medical marijuana passed in a referendum which all significant politicians opposed. Overwhelming support for Trump, but democrat Kendra Horn became first one to get elected to the US house in almost 50 years. Wide public support for a state wide teacher’s strike.
s there are actual QAnon members in congress now who literally believe in a satanic pederast ring operated by the DNC
That’s insane, it’s clearly not operated by the DNC directly, just several members of the DNC.
Someone should talk to Adam Schiff……………
Republicans are no better, and possibly worse, as there are actual QAnon members in congress now who literally believe in a satanic pederast ring operated by the DNC.
From a libertarian perspective, so what? I mean, those people who believe there’s a satanic pederast ring operated by the DNC? They’ve shown no signs of wanting to bother me in the least bit. Hell, a lot of them stand in support of my opposition to military adventurism or my belief in free speech. My hats off to them, even if they do have some whacky ideas. I’d say the same for your Democratic grandmother, if she didn’t want to bother me. Of course, her political descendants are all about meddling in my affairs.
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i disagree. we should talk about these things more, not less. i don’t even know what “polite company” is. the only reason to no discuss these things is because you so thin skinned and weak that you can’t handle a political conversation. i will never adhere to this “polite company” rule. fuck that noise.
“Today politics/religion (it’s now become a single thing) has become the only topic for most people.”
BECAUSE……………. Gov-Guns have been stuffed into EVERYTHING.
Your grandparents also didn’t live in an age of gasoline car banning, Gov-Gun dictated shower usage, mandated TPMS monitors, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc (endless list of added tyranny).
Heck; they’d throw their kids in the bed of their pickup without a care in the world about the powers that are of today.
“Now would be a good time to throw a big cocktail party in New York or Washington, and invite every single conservative writer you know. #RedWedding2”
-Matt Welch on Twitter, March 4, 2019
Reason’s definition of “leaving each other alone” (at least when they think they’re talking to each quasi-privately and off the record) is apparently: inviting the people you loathe to a fake celebration under false pretenses so that you can murder them all in cold blood in one fell swoop.
Not as long as there are open interstate borders.
That’s a dramatic increase in mutual loathing by supporters of the two main political parties, which hold roughly equal shares of public support whether you’re talking about explicit party identification or those who lean in one direction or the other.
No question the mutual loathing is real and increasing but the reason for that imo is precisely because DeRps do NOT have roughly equal shares of support anywhere. They succeed in demonizing the other precisely because nowhere – except a Prez election – do they actually compete for the votes of those who might choose the other.
I know Denver best because that’s where I live. There is no such thing as any R actually trying to win any local election. The last R mayor left office in 1963. The entire city council is D. I’ve been here nearly 20 years and there is not one election I’ve seen where the R’s even try to win or even compete. They get their 20% (who will vote R even if the candidate molests dead puppies in public) and that’s all they care about. There are no – ZERO – local issues on which R’s even bother to have an opinion. They are irrelevant here – and that means the local precinct people are as ideological as any part of the Bible Belt. The donor and country club class is perfectly happy focusing instead on funding/buying R candidates in places where R might win. They don’t waste their contributions and spin their wheels here.
That’s not unusual. Only about 10% of House districts are ‘competitive’ plus those with open seats after the current King leaves office.
Devolving power will only work if it opens up elections to very different parties. R’s will never compete in Denver and they don’t want to. But some party can become the local opposition here – and then the actual competition. As long as R’s and D’s agree that no other party can exist anywhere, then what we have is an electoral cartel/monopoly at all levels.
Gee, that sounds a lot like Detroit, Chicago…did you see who they just elected as the new Mayor? Philly, L.A. Frisco, Seattle, Portland, Baltimorgue. kenosha, MNSP, D.C. Nashville, Louisville, …. if you run with a D next to your name, it’s a guaranteed win.
God help Chicago…if there is a God.
Chumpcongo doesn’t need help…it needs thermonuclear sterilization!
Look, activists, especially on the left, are now in a religious fervor, evangelical stage. By definition, they must proselytize. They must convert the savages to save their souls, and kill the heretics who challenge the church. Leave people alone? You might as well ask them kill themselves.
Divide and conquer. The best way for the state to maintain power is to keep the populace from uniting to oppose it. Earth-based Human Skeptic is just one of the commenters here who have bought into the narrative whole hog. Moe Howard called such people stooges. Lenin called them useful idiots.
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Quit ceding more power to the state you stupid fucking democrat.
Sez the guy who voted for Trump.
What did Trotsky the hero of the left/neocons say about this? That is all the NYT and WaPo really care about.
Equating the neo-cons with Trotsky is spot on. The lot of them are members of the small hate tribe.
Trotsky hasn’t been influential in US politics since the 1950s. The left these days looks to feminists, anarchists, environmentalists, anticolonialists and the like for inspiration. You will certainly see some of this in the corporate news media, but in Hollywood and other pop culture it really pops out.
Can Mutually Loathing Americans Learn To Leave Each Other Alone? The country needs a political truce with devolved power.
Why does the “truce” always seem to look like a space where I’m supposed to sit down, be quiet, quit fighting the “Kultur warr hurr durr” while they get men in my daughter’s changing room, $20 an hour minimum wages, race-based college admissions and dorm room partner selections, my quiet acceptance of “white guilt/staying in my lane/stepping aside for [insert BIPOC of the day]”, reparations, election law changes by unelected bureaucrats funded by Silicon Valley Billionaires, tens, hundreds or thousands of miles of homeless tents, crime and rampant drug use,
critical race theory in everythingDiversity/Inclusion/Equity metrics in everything,forcedSophie’s Choice vaccination and masking and so on and so on?Just cleanse the democrats.
“We’ve spent decades turning a federal system into a centralized government only to discover that it’s too dangerous to place under the control of those with whom we disagree. ”
I dunno… to be honest, I’m beginning to see the merit of parliamentary systems such as the UK where a party gets control for a term of office, and if the electorate doesn’t like it after X number of years, they can throw the government out and elect the other party. Divided government such as in the US seems to offer no hope for anything except gridlock and hate.
Side One: Well one side says I may disagree with what you are saying but I support your right to say what you are saying.
Side Two: The other side says STFU, we will censor you, arrest you and imprison you if you do not agree with us.
How do you compromise with side 2?
Kind of like Israel and Palestine. Israel says let’s find a peaceful solution and Palestine say we want to wipe you from the face of the Earth forever. I makes it very hard for Israel to compromise with Palestine!
Israel says
let’s find a peaceful solutionSTFU and we will continue seizing your land and moving our settlers onto it, and forcing you into fenced and guarded reservations.maybe you’re unaware that the palestinians are terrorists — all of them.
“the palestinians are terrorists — all of them.”
Even the ones who aren’t terrorists?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQq5hQ6TbYI&t=2606s
There’s quite an interesting interview with Thomas Friedman about Israel and Netanyahu. I always took Friedman for the ultimate neocon. He certainly seems to have changed his tune.
http://bit.ly/2yxk1IT June 21, 2018, CityWatch, The Dangers of Dichotomy: The Saved vs. The Damned, by Richard Lee Abrams
Polarization is not new.
America is a failing state. Declining life expectancy, jails bursting at the seams with inmates convicted of ludicrous crimes, economic and financial uncertainty, civil unrest, unprecedented debt, serial disastrous military adventures, lack of coherent response to climate change and other such issues, corruption in the highest of offices, tensions with Europe and Asia. The cultures wars are a distraction. The population bickers over sex, guns and drugs while the state carries on delivering failure after failure. They wouldn’t have it any other way.
Yep
Allowing dangerous felons back onto the streets, a wide open border allowing known and unknown terrorists through, drug traffickers and who knows how many cartel members, 100,000 drug overdoses, D.A.s owned by George Soros ie: Alvin Bragg, cops taking a knee to BLM, while they burn loot and murder, convincing children they’re another gender(sick,sick,sick), the climate change fraud, wind energy fraud, solar energy fraud, John kerry, Al Gore and a host of others who won’t be missed once once the nation is purged. And worst of all Joe Biden.
You seem to be confusing or conflating inevitable cultural and global changes with state inability to respond to challenges. I noticed a few years ago the entire zeitgeist did a 180 on gay marriage, and the state followed suit, Obama if I recall only embraced gay marriage long after it had become fashionable. That’s cultural change. The US fucking up in Iraq, Afghanistan, now fanning the flames in Europe and Asia. That’s poorly executed, failed if you will, statecraft.
Diversity= agree with my political views but don’t look like me
Equity= standards based on the tribe you are in.
Inclusion= economic gains based on member of said tribe not based on meritocracy
Given the DIE movement which demands all must bow to it, you can never have some decentralized nation. National divorce along county lines where contiguous countries can join either red or blue. Two countries…one based on meritocracy, rule of law, liberty, economic liberty (no you don’t have to bake that cake), and non intervention. The other can do as they please….
Unless someone comes along to bring us back together, the situation will become more and more hopeless.
Unless: clean out colleges and universities of neo-Marxists. Public education for what it is, is supposed to be about reading, writing and arithmetic, not gender assignment. Allow school choice. If public schools can’t make the cut then too bad. The same as any other: poor performance = closing.
Tell George Soros he and his nasty son have only 24 hours to leave the country, after that federal marshals will be sent in.
Stop Bill Gates. End the Fed,return to sound money, defund the FBI, CIA, IRS,ATF, DOE, TSA, DHS, BLM,DEA, cut military spending by 60%. Close all foreign bases.
End foreign interventionism and military adventurism. Clean out Washington of the neo-cons.
Overall, reduce the size of the government by 60% if not more. Allow the states more power.
The reason so many are not happy is because the “state” has assumed all power over all matters including personal life.
The idea of “national divorce” will continue to gain traction until the unthinkable civil war happens.
Word search of Article = (4) cases of “democracy” (0) “constitution”.
Unlimited “democracy” *ALWAYS* causes ugly [WE] mob battles.
When Gov-Guns controls EVERYTHING then everything is a Gov-Gun battle.
“Will power hungry thugs who control most of the nation’s wealth and government learn not to bully the other side over identity politics?”
This is the real question to ask, and the answer is no.
The cultural civil war in America is not merely a duel between ideologies. The conflict is between the persecutors and their victims. The bullies and fanatics are mostly on the other side. Ruinous economic policies come from that side. The cities on their side lose people, who often go to cities and states on OUR side.
The equivalency game grows old and unconvincing. Would you rather live in Chicago or somewhere in Florida? Keep things simple.
Who came after Reason for hyperbolic “woodchipper” statement in the comment section? Who put Reason in the list of “extremist” organization? I know GOP has its own power trip. But who is more likely to demonize and punish their ideological opponents?
It takes no effort to see the truth for what it is. It takes effort to be needlessly nuanced. If someone picks most fights and causes division, you tell THEM to stop, not both sides.
Fuck that. America needs to water some fucking trees again.
If you don’t accept all men are created equal with God-given rights you do not belong here. I think that would be unanimously upheld by the 55 Founders.
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