Federal Court Halts Biden Administration's Clean Water Overreach
Hopefully the Supreme Court will soon put a permanent stop to the EPA's Clean Water Act land grab.

A U.S. district judge in North Dakota issued an injunction yesterday halting the Biden administration's new rule defining the waters of the United States (WOTUS) under the Clean Water Act. The injunction was issued pending the outcome of a lawsuit by a 24-state coalition in the U.S. District Court for the District of North Dakota. The coalition argued that the Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA) WOTUS definition extends far beyond Congress' original intention for the Act. This is just the latest chapter in a long series of regulatory snafus that has flummoxed the Obama, Trump, and now the Biden administrations.
The federal Clean Water Act states that its objective is "to restore and maintain the chemical, physical, and biological integrity of the Nation's waters." In order to achieve that, the Act declares that "it is the national goal that the discharge of pollutants
into the navigable waters be eliminated by 1985." Without going too deeply into the history of riparian law, in the 19th and early 20th centuries, upstream polluters could often be ordered by courts to stop polluting or compensate downstream users. For example, in Whalen v. Union Bag Paper Co. (1913), a court ruled in favor of downstream farmer against a polluting upstream factory. The factory, worth $1 million and employing 400 people, was forced to close.
Over time, however, courts and legislatures adopted a reasonableness standard that tended to favor the more economically valuable uses. The upshot was that owners of factories could dump their pollutants more freely into waterways with less fear that they would lose lawsuits brought by downstream landowners. Most waterways became essentially common property regulated by state governments. The federal government got more involved in regulating water pollution with the passage of the Clean Water Act in 1972. As various presidential administrations seek to adopt broader WOTUS definitions, more American landowners are at risk of becoming subject to these regulations.
Most folks might think that navigable waters means some sort of surface water upon which a person could "navigate" while ensconced on, say, at least an inflated pool float. However, in its general definitions, the Act simply states that "the term 'navigable waters' means the waters of the United States, including the territorial seas."
To make a long, legally screwed-up story short, the U.S. Supreme Court issued a muddled split 4–1–4 ruling in Rapanos v. United States (2006). In his plurality opinion, Justice Antonin Scalia argued:
In sum, on its only plausible interpretation, the phrase "the waters of the United States" includes only those relatively permanent, standing or continuously flowing bodies of water "forming geographic features" that are described in ordinary parlance as "streams[,] … oceans, rivers, [and] lakes." See Webster's Second 2882. The phrase does not include channels through which water flows intermittently or ephemerally, or channels that periodically provide drainage for rainfall. The Corps' expansive interpretation of the "the waters of the United States" is thus not "based on a permissible construction of the statute."
However, Justice Anthony Kennedy in his concurring opinion offered a broader "significant nexus" test for defining what constitutes "navigable waters" under the statute. For example, under that test, wetlands "either alone or in combination with similarly situated lands in the region, significantly affect the chemical, physical, and biological integrity of other covered waters more readily understood as 'navigable.'"
EPA regulators have, in some sense, been seeking to navigate between those two tests ever since. The Obama and Biden administrations have favored Kennedy's "significant nexus" test to justify broader regulations, while the Trump administration preferred Scalia's definitions as a way to narrow the scope of the regulations. In February, the Senate Republican Conference sent a letter to the Biden administration decrying the new WOTUS rules' reliance on the "ambiguous 'significant nexus' standard" as an effort "to federalize waters in a land grab that arguably surpasses its [Obama administration] 2015 predecessor."
In March, a joint resolution of Congress nullifying the Biden administration's new WOTUS definition was passed. President Joe Biden vetoed it.
The Supreme Court will hopefully offer some clarity on what constitutes the waters of the United States under the Clean Water Act with a ruling this spring that permanently halts this attempted federal land grab in the case Sackett v. EPA.
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Damnit, if you can't get there in a boat, it ain't navigable.
That is no harder to understand than "shall not be infringed".
If congress passes a law "defining" blue as green, does that really mean blue is green?
Next thing you know we will have laws saying men are women.
They did say bees are fish:
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/06/us/california-bees-fish-court-ruling-scn-trnd/index.html
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The standard boat size to qualify for navigable waters appears to be one of the glass-bottled ships.
Bottled ships, bottled shit, botched shit, indecipherable messages in bottles... THIS is about what we're getting from the SCROTUS these days!!!
Makes me think of a Sting-along sing-song I heard a few days ago on the radio... The lyrics weren't totally clear to me... "Mustard in my butt-hole", or "Mouse turds in a bottle", or SOMETHING like that!
A million suns at midnight, and a hundred billion bottles (full of mouse-turds), washed up on the shore, are some of my least favorite sights!
Bingo Jed had a light on.
The standard for navigable according to the EPA is not even a toy boat. It doesn't even require a puddle of surface water.
https://reason.com/2022/02/03/the-epa-has-spent-15-years-blocking-this-couple-from-building-a-home-will-the-supreme-court-come-to-the-rescue/
Demon-Craps and SCROTUS: Micromanaging your "navigable waters" in your mud puddles.
"Team R" in recent days: Micromanaging your "navigable waters" in your in-dwelling amniotic fluids, and SAVING the endangered Sacred Fartilized Human Egg Smells that dwell therein!
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According to the EPA, everytime I piss outside I create a navigable waterway.
So it's you fault? Dammit, stop!
The executive veto power for legislative bills is an essential check and balance in our system. However, it seems broken that the president can simply veto congressional overrides or clawbacks of administrative actions. Too great a moral hazard to breaking the check and balance.
Vetoing a bill is the same as vetoing a bill. I don't understand what your difference is. A bill gets vetoed. Checks and balances have not gone by the wayside.
The real issue is that the executive branch, with the willing assistance of the legislative branch, as proliferated the size and scope of executive agencies. This goes far beyond the EPA.
Not too many years ago the Republicans control both houses and the White House and were busily appointing members to the Judicial branch... yet did nothing about this. In fact, it just asserted even more Executive Branch control, to the cheers of Team Red. I hate to say it, but it's Both Sides. Both. Sides. When the Team Red Executive says all power rests the Executive, then it is indeed Both Sides.
The solution is for congress to grow a spine and claw back the powers given to it under the US Constitution and start dismantling these Executive agencies.
I think you are probably right that neither side wants to give up the power to make shit up as they go along when they are in power, and that's why these haven't been reformed.
But in the specific case of a resolution against a president's interpretation of an existing law, it doesn't seem like a bad idea not to allow vetos. The executive is claiming that this is what the law means. Congress comes in to clarify that no, that's not what it means.
You are right that both sides have participated in the abusive growth of the Administrative State but that misses the point. In this case, Congress was trying to claw back some of its powers and they were far too easily shot down by a self-interested Executive Branch.
The difference is that revoking authority delegated from the Legislature to the Executive is not (or should not need to be) a bill. It should be sufficient for the Legislature to say "this exceeds the authority we delegated".
I think you are describing the legislative veto, which the Supreme Court struck down in INS v. Chadha, 462 U.S. 919 (1983). The Court ruled that the legislative veto violated the Presentment Clause (Article I, Section 7, Clause 3) of the Constitution.
Thank you. I'm not sure if I never knew about or had just forgotten about that case. Having had a little time to dig into it, I must admit that I find the majority opinion unconvincing. The dissent written by Justice White seems to have the better argument. His prediction that Congress would "surrender its lawmaking power to the administrative agencies" has certainly been proven true in the four decades since that decision.
Scotus should rule the delegation of authority by Congress to the Executive unconstitutional either fully or at least that it can not extend pass the current congress's term limit (2 years at most). Currently the way they've altered the rules, has subverted the checks and balances in the system.
We need to be careful about anthropomorphizing the legislature, though. For the legislature to say something, a certain percent of the members have to vote to say it.
And when a bill is vetoed, the bar is raised. That has been the rules of the game for a long time now. If we start making exceptions for special categories the veto will lose its power. Not just for pairing back executive overreach, but for vetoing anything.
I liked the way that Rossami put it.
To mangle and exaggerate it, Congress passes a law that says "Government Almighty shall not use the Interstate Commerce Clause to argue that, since booger rags are traded across state lines, the FDA shall be empowered to require prescriptions for booger rags. Freedoms of the people to access booger rags shall prevail, and the FDA shall butt right out."
Biden goes ahead and issues an executive order to the FDA, requiring prescriptions for booger rags! Dangerous medical implements going on here! Stranger danger! Lots of delicate tissues up yer nose; blows upon it too hard, and no one knows, where the diseases goes!
Congress passes ANOTHER law REPEATING what it said earlier... And Biden VETOES it! In favor of a "special interest" known as FDA employees!!! (And their powers and monies, AKA budgets.)
Allowing vetoes of not-legislated, but rather, promulgated-by-regulations "Government Almighty shall get bigger" and NOT allowing vetoes of "No, we did NOT mean THAT; Government Almighty shall get SMALLER, not bigger; were you LISTENING?" ... Whoa, now THAT sounds like wise "Power to the People" to me!!!
revoking authority delegated from the Legislature to the Executive
except thatthe legislative branch have NO AUTHORITY to "delegate" their constitutionally established powers to either of the other two branches.
End of story.
Congres mAKES LAW, the executive ENFORCES those laws.
The "administrative state" is a runaway slave and neds to be brought to heel.
If Congress would stop wasing time writing four hundred page bills on gun control that no one can read overnight to cast an "infirmed" vote the next afternoon, and get to oerforming their assigned tases per Article One maybe we would not have rogue "administrative law" such as EPA, BATF, DEA, ICC, NHTSA, , DOE, DOt, and all the other alphabet soup agencies tripling our cost of existing with their tyrannies.
Further, mandate that before any congress critter can VOTE on any law, said critter MUST have READ the fool thing.
"the national goal" .... is [Na]tional So[zi]alism (syn; Nazism) for the USA. As-if that was wildly apparent.
And yes; It is SCOTUS job to keep Nazi's from conquering/stealing the USA. If you want [Na]tional pond regulation; go get the required votes for a Constitutional Amendment.
Speaking of navigable waters....
People Canoed On Florida Streets To Get Through Flash Floods & Cars Were Ruined (VIDEOS)
https://www.narcity.com/miami/people-canoed-on-florida-streets-to-get-through-flash-floods-cars-were-ruined-videos
Looks like Da Meatball needs some more water pumps for Dade County.
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Not saying I agree with the underlying premise for regulation here, but playing devil's advocate, if we accept the original purposes of preventing pollution problems and preventing ongoing strife between (interstate) upstream and downstream people, then "the waters" of the United States would be "flowing" features that can carry pollution from one place to another. If you accept that then perennial and intermittent streams, lakes and underground aquifers would all be subject to regulation, but not puddles on private property. Having said that, the Clean Water Act is a very blunt tool even in that context for achieving the questionable goal.
Worth considering.
It just offensive, to anyone who wants language to having meaning to describe any water that can spread pollution with the word “navigable”. (But then there is a lot of abuse of the plain meaning of words in politics.)
Also, a puddle on private land can seep into ground water. We’d have to include seeping as well as flowing of water in any standard. (Hmm, and as sarcasmic points out below, we’d even need to include any water that can evaporate.)
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For example, under that test, wetlands "either alone or in combination with similarly situated lands in the region, significantly affect the chemical, physical, and biological integrity of other covered waters more readily understood as 'navigable.'"
Clouds produce rain which eventually feeds into navigable waters. So using Wickard as precedent, there's no reason airborne water vapor shouldn't be subject to regulation under the Clean Water Act.
Just in time to mess with state rights along the Colorado river!
There used to be "sniffer patrols in NYC" who traced stinks and dirt back to their sources so they could be sued. They were so successful that the elites shut them down with legislation and court rulings on the grounds it did not take the public good into account; it was up to the government to decide how much pollution the nation could tolerate, and woe betide any individual who thought otherwise (Supreme Court of Georgia, Holman v Athens Empire Laundry Co., 1919: "The pollution of the air, so far as reasonably necessary to the enjoyment of life and indispensable to the progress of society, is not actionable").
This may be from the book "The Big Oyster" by Mark Kulansky, but I can't find it to confirm.
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17th amendment: You will control nothing and be happy.
17A: no more state veto power in the federal government.
It was the states that made that happen. They (their legislatures) did not want to forced into doing federal business instead of doing state business. 31 of those legislatures called for basically an Article 5 convention to make that amendment. A couple of dozen states unilaterally went the direct election route - and 10 senators who were 'anti-reform' (got into Senate via legislature) were kicked out of office. Which is how the 17th finally passed Congress - after 20 years of previous attempts.