Tennessee Will Use Eminent Domain To Evict Black Farmers for Ford E.V. Factory
The state promised Ford nearly $900 million in incentives, including new and upgraded roads. But it chose to run that new road through a number of black-owned farms.
One of the nation's largest automakers has some big construction projects in the pipeline, and the Tennessee state government isn't going to let anything stand in the way—even the private property rights of black farmers.
In September 2021, Ford Motor Co. announced a slate of new development projects, committing $11.4 billion toward expanding electric vehicle (E.V.) production. In addition to two E.V. battery factories in Kentucky, the auto giant would build a $5.6-billion "mega campus" in western Tennessee named "BlueOval City," which would manufacture both electric trucks and batteries. Ford boasted that the project would be operational in 2025 and employ about 5,800 people.
In return for picking Tennessee, state lawmakers overwhelmingly approved legislation that would grant Ford $884 million in state incentives. That includes a $500 million grant from the state's current budget surplus and $384 million for site preparation, including $200 million for road improvements and $138.2 million for infrastructure and demolition services.
The bill also apportioned $745,100 to fund the Megasite Authority of West Tennessee, an 11-person board with the power to execute contracts on behalf of the development. It can also take privately-owned land, via eminent domain, in order to facilitate construction of the facility and supporting infrastructure.
According to Tennessee Lookout, the state is planning to seize privately-owned farmland while only paying a pittance to the owners—far from fair market value.
In order to reach the new facility, the North Carolina Department of Transportation plans to build a highway interchange, plus a road leading from the interstate to BlueOval City. But the path that the state chose for the road cuts through an area of farmland whose residents are disproportionately black. Of the 35 total tracts of land affected, the state still needs 20. It has filed seven lawsuits so far.
For example, the state sued Ray Jones for an acre of his land. But while land in the area sells for $200,000 or more per acre, the state offered Jones a measly $8,165. It also sued Marvin Sanderlin for 10 acres of his property: two acres that would be used to build the road and eight that would become inaccessible once it was built. Sanderlin was only offered $37,500, or $3,750 per acre. Speaking to the Tennessee Lookout's Anita Wadhwani, Sanderlin called the offer a "ripoff," saying, "you can't buy a swamp here for $3,500."
Ironically, Jones and Sanderlin both support the plant and are optimistic that it will bring additional commerce to the area—but they're less enthused that the state feels entitled to take their land along the way.
Tennessee is not alone: In neighboring North Carolina, Vietnamese automaker VinFast is building an E.V. factory on rural land. In addition to providing $1.2 billion in financial incentives, the North Carolina government is currently trying to take 27 homes, five businesses, and a church using eminent domain.
It's bad enough when a state decides to give hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer money to companies worth billions. But it's truly abhorrent to seize land from private hands simply because the state feels that a company should use it instead.
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Why mention race? Are white farmers being offered more?
Mr. Lancaster needs training in how to write using relevant facts.
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Yeah, I came here to point that out. The issue is eminent domain for a private company. The whole thing suggests it would have been “better” had all the farmers been white.
There is a 93% chance they vote D and loved them some Notorious RBG, who supported Kelo. Now they get bent over by the pols they supported.
Eminent domain was never for a person to lose his private property so another private property owner could have the land.
It was so the government had to pay the private property owner was paid fair market value. The property was for highways, schools, and other publicly used facilities.
Skin color is the most important thing
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As other commenters, I came here to point out the racial red herring the author drags across the road, either because (1) he felt incapable of making a valid point without including race, or (2) he rather enjoys stoking the racial divide there is tearing the country apart. Neither motive says much positive about his ability as an author or his status as a human being.
As one who is among the most caustic critics of the abuse of imminent domain, it’s hard to make a valid argument against the use of imminent domain to take land to build a road – a classic “public use”. The race of the owners of the soon-to-be expropriated land is likewise pretty much irrelevant. What the state is doing is trying to use it powers to leverage the land away from the owners for far less than market value, and for this they should be publicly condemned as greedy sonsabitches and we can embrace the faint hope that a court of some level will force payment of enough per acre to make the current owners whole after the payment of income taxes from this transaction which is not voluntary on their part. Indeed, if the land values and offered prices are described honestly and accurately in the article, I would not be able to find within myself an ability to criticize (or convict) one or more of those victims of state theft if they elected to exercise a right of private action against the beneficiaries of this state based theft.
The fact you have to pay income taxes on something you’re forced to sell is beyond ludicrous.
Yeah once again Reason features an eminent case where government is building a road which is a legitimate use of that power. Unless the author is claiming that the government has some racist motivation the only issue is the fair market value of the property. Obviously the offers are based on comps and appraisals. The property owners can certainly challenge the numbers but they don’t get to make shit up.
Just because it’s a presumptively legitimate use of power doesn’t mean it can’t be abused, of course. Cops have broad authority to make arrests but that doesn’t mean they can’t violate that power.
Seizing property under eminent domain needs to be a last resort after less-disruptive means. Now I don’t know all of the case here, if there’s a different stretch of land that could be used to make a road. Perhaps they’ve decided this land is less expensive for the government to obtain than some adjacent land, even if the adjacent land owner is willing to cooperate. Eminent domain should always be a last resort after considering other options.
Additionally, this road is almost exclusively for the purposes of a private company. It comes from the highway toward their new complex. There’s little broad public use of the road, it just goes to the facility. This doesn’t mean literally everyone who goes there works for the company but the vast majority will. In a world with more limited government, the company itself would have to negotiate with their neighbors for the purposes of building this road for their own purposes.
It wasn’t clear to me how much of the takin was for the plant itself and how much was for the roadways leading to the plant. Not sure why the skin color was relevant, as if somehow if all the farmers were white it would have been just fine to steal their land for a private factory? The eminent domain for the road is justifiable, but the way-below market prices are not.
The eminent domain for the road is justifiable,
Justifiable but not necessarily proper. If the road is merely an access road leading from the highway to the company campus, it really should be the company’s responsibility to build and maintain that. They’re the ones who need it at the near exclusion of anyone else. But the government graciously said, “No, we’ll just take money from our own taxpayers so we can build your road for you.”
I don’t think it should be considered a legitimate function of government to build single-purpose roads for new corporate facilities.
It’s more than that: https://www.tn.gov/tdot/projects/region-4/sr-194-extension-exit-39.html
The Tennessee Department of Transportation (TDOT), in cooperation with the Federal Highway Administration (FHWA), proposes various roadway improvements in Fayette, Haywood, and Tipton Counties. The roadway improvements are being considered to serve the imminent industrial development at the Ford Motor Company Campus (Blue Oval City), located at the Memphis Regional Megasite in Haywood County, Tennessee.
The proposed roadway improvements include a south-north extension of State Route (SR) 194 (proposed SR 194 extension) on a new alignment from the existing intersection of SR 59 and SR 194 in Fayette County to a new intersection with SR 1 (US 70) in Tipton County, a new interchange on I-40 at proposed Exit 39, a west-east connector (proposed SR 468) on a new alignment between the proposed SR 194 extension and existing SR 222 and interchange modifications on I-40 at existing Exit 42. The proposed improvements would total approximately 13.7 miles in length.
The 4,100-acre Memphis Regional Megasite was developed by the Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA) in 2006 and was ultimately purchased by the State of Tennessee in 2009. The Memphis Regional Megasite is one of the largest available Megasite properties in the southeast[1]. Currently, one existing interstate interchange serves the Memphis Regional Megasite, I-40 at SR-222 (Exit 42). In addition, north-south connectivity from the existing roadway network is limited in this portion of northwest Fayette County with SR-222 being the only north-south route with a direct connection in and around the Memphis Regional Megasite.
While the Ford Motor Company Campus (Blue Oval City) would be entirely confined to the existing Memphis Regional Megasite, additional industrial, commercial, or residential development is anticipated to be developed at or near the Memphis Regional Megasite in the future. This projected increase in both commuter and freight traffic is anticipated to further increase the travel demand within the existing roadway network.
Yes, there’s lots of additional developments. The focus of this story is on the stretch of farmland in Haywood county, which would be the entirely new stretch of road between SR 222 and the proposed SR 194 extension (Design Element #5 from your link). There’s not a road there and it’s almost exclusively for use by the new private development.
There’s more to it than I realized, and of course some construction of roadways is a legitimate form of government. But really, I’d much prefer if this was a process government was largely left out of-figuring out how to build roadway access to your new production campus.
“Justifiable but not necessarily proper. ”
Agree. But it’s hard to figure out what is and isn’t happening in this article for all the race-based antics.
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That was exactly my thought. Just on the headline alone I have to wonder what the real concern is: eminent domain or that the farmers are black?
Eminent Domain is a wrong that The Founding Fathers never adequately addressed even via the Fifth Amendment. And it is wrong, regardless of the “race”, class, or other status of the victim.
It’s life imitating art imitating life ad infinitum.:
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https://youtu.be/sutx_6oHRQA
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Um… ever seen The Dearborn Independent? It’s a lead pipe cinch Jewish white farmers ain’t gettin’ a better deal…
Lol. Surely you are familiar with the “women and minorities hardest hit” theme that permeates everything that does or does not happen these days?
Black farmers? Are you sure they are not simply farmers or private landowners?
I just assumed it meant Democrats keeping black voters on the plantation… Potato Farmer:Potatoes::Black Farmer:Blacks.
The assumption that you have to describe the race of the farmer in some way seems irrelevant, subjective, and racist.
I said it below, but yeah. Replace the word “black” with “nazi” and see if it makes one iota of difference about the property rights within this story.
No, because he capitalized Black, so it must be Racism.
>>But while land in the area sells for $200,000 or more per acre, the state offered Jones a measly $8,165.
accounting practices are racist.
Lancaster found a zillow ad for a 1 acre lot in the nearest town. Farm land goes for much less per acre.
Here’s some listings in Fayette County, Tennessee for comparison.
https://www.landwatch.com/tennessee-land-for-sale/fayette-county
There’s a 565 acre parcel going from $2.825 million, or $5,000/acre.
There’s another 133.62 acre parcel going for $799,500, or $5,983/acre.
And yet another 386 acre parcel going for $1,350,293, or $3,498/acre.
The assumptions Lancaster has are bullshit. TnDOT is probably right in offering $3,750/acre.
Enh. Price per acre tends to go up fairly swiftly when purchasing smaller patches, so I could even believe $20k / ac. But it does sound like $200k / ac. is complete hogwash.
Teen reason is upset because of the race, not the theft
To be fair, their Barely Legal writing team was taught in school that everything is about race, so…
>>Barely Legal writing team
lolz still.
Imagine writing this article without any mention of race. Would any of the arguments be any less valid?
“One of the nation’s largest automakers has some big construction projects in the pipeline, and the Tennessee state government isn’t going to let anything stand in the way—even the private property rights of
blackfarmers.”“But the path that the state chose for the road cuts through an area of farmland
whose residents are disproportionately black.Of the 35 total tracts of land affected, the state still needs 20. It has filed seven lawsuits so far.”“But it’s truly abhorrent to seize land from private hands simply because the state feels that a company should use it instead.”
Oddly, that conclusion is not at all dependent on the racial make-up of the landowners. The only thing playing the race card accomplishes is the fact that you’ve played the race card. The libertarian method isn’t to push for equity when it comes to outcomes and racial disparities, but the broad respect of private property rights (even those of abhorrent nazis).
In fact, as a thought exercise, just put the word “nazi” in everywhere “black” exists in the article, and see if this still wrong.
You really want to get edgy? Put “Black” in front of Government, “Nazi” in front of farmers, “sympathic” in front of automakers, and then play musical chairs.
“Imagine writing this article without any mention of race. ”
This is America. There is not a single issue of consequence that doesn’t have a racial dimension to it. You must have realized this by now. What’s with the faux indignation?
There is not a single issue of consequence that doesn’t have a racial dimension to it.
Imagine going through life like this.
Imagine America.
Imagine all your imaginary POC friends.
GFY
“” There is not a single issue of consequence that doesn’t have a racial dimension to it.””
You could apply that to the world.
So, why the faux outrage?
George Wallace did.
Maybe for retarded leftist who continue to push lies even after they’ve been presented with facts.
For everyone. Just look at the comments. The very first comment gloms onto the racial dimension of the issue, and almost every subsequent contribution faithfully follows suit. But in fairness, it’s not only race. Imagine, if you would, it was white Republicans who were being evicted and the author of the article DIDN’T mention the fact. Imagine, if you would, the faux outrage in the comments, starting with the very first one and continuing to the end.
You’re position is if the farmers were disproportionately white Republicans and Reason failed to mention it, the comments here would have a bunch of faux outrage because Reason didn’t mention it?
Your
Thanks for the grammar check. You now want to try answering the question?
“Thanks for the grammar check. ”
I can also do there, they’re and their, and two, to and too.
But apparently you can’t answer a simple question without engaging in elementary pedantry to deflect. Well done!
“you can’t answer a simple question ”
If the question is so simple, there’s no need to keep badgering me for an answer.
Why are you so scared to answer?
Because he’s a fucking shitheel jug of cuntsludge.
“Why are you so scared to answer?”
Not for the same reason you are scared to answer it.
What does that even mean? Do you ever engage substantively, or is your ego too fragile for adult conversation?
Fucking jackass.
Racial dimension, meaning that someone always has to try and shoehorn race into every issue? Or, because you believe there are legitimate racial dimensions with all issues?
“Racial dimension, meaning that someone always has to try and shoehorn race into every issue?”
No shoehorning necessary. Race seems to be baked in from the get go.
” legitimate racial dimensions ”
Not sure what legitimate racial dimensions are. Is mentioning the race of dispossessed farmers legitimate or illegitimate?
Not really an answer. You say race is baked in from the get go. Does that mean there’s a legitimate racial component that is always baked in? Meaning that race plays a substantive role in the matter? Or, is race baked in because societally we just dump racial issues into everything haphazardly even when race makes no difference, like was done in the instance of this article?
Simply put, is race ubiquitous simply because we’ve made it that way with no actual purpose other than to virtue signal and play into a modern societal ethos, or because it is actually relevant to the matter?
“Simply put, is race ubiquitous simply because we’ve made it that way with no actual purpose other than to virtue signal and play into a modern societal ethos, or because it is actually relevant to the matter?”
Why the ‘or?’ You think the options are mutually exclusive? I’m not sure they are. I’m not a sociologist, I just notice how race somehow manages to creep in and crowd out other areas of discussion. This comment thread is a good example.
But this comment thread is calling out the inclusion of race in this article because it was irrelevant.
I can’t tell if you truly don’t understand my question or if you are being purposefully obtuse.
The question is whether race being ubiquitous is because of it’s irrelevant inclusion in almost all issues or because race is truly relevant to the issues? Try to actually answer.
“But this comment thread is calling out the inclusion of race in this article because it was irrelevant. ”
But it also included the profession of those in question, ie farmers. How is the way these people make their living any more relevant than the color of their skin or socio-economic standing? Would the article be more acceptable for you if any mention of race or profession was scrupulously avoided?
You’ve got America. It’s not homogeneous. There are majorities and minorities. In any particular instance where the minority are the majority in the sample in question, that’s noteworthy, if only from a mathematical point of view, without any of the historical baggage that comes attached, free of charge. It’s bad faith to assume nefarious or dishonorable motives to mentioning race.
All this handwringing over the mention of race does you no credit.
So, you are being purposefully obtuse. I thought so, but needed you to establish it. You have the same argument technique as most on the left, the claimed ignorance to act smug. It’s a weird duality, pretending to be very ignorant on a subject in order to act professorial and look down on the idiots. How do you justify being dumb to sound smart? How does that work?
Anyway, the subject is the taking of farmland for roads. Literally impacting the livelihood of these people. It doesn’t matter what race they are, religion they practice, or what toothpaste they use. But the impact on their livelihood is relevant.
But, you already know that. However, you would rather feign ignorance in order to keep the desired race baiting narrative going.
I will never not be amazed just how racist people on the left really are.
“So, you are being purposefully obtuse.”
Wow, we have a genius here among us. One who’s able to read English and understand subtext. What a combo!
“the claimed ignorance to act smug”
It’s no act. I truly am smug. Comes from being so superior.
So superior you have to act dumb to pretend to be smart. How embarrassing for you.
Is the government trying to take land from black farmers *because* they’re black, i.e., a different road plan could avoid black farms but would impact white farmers so we’ll reroute just so as to hit black farmers.
Or is it just happenstance that the people who own the land along the best (cheapest) route happen to be mostly (but not all) black farmers?
In the former, the race of the farmers is material, on par with the overall notion that land is being taken for private business. In the latter, the race of the farmers has no more bearing on the issue than their age, marital status, gender, sexual orientation, etc.
The authors certainly seem to want us to believe the issue is one of government being racist, when it doesn’t really seem like that’s the central issue. I suspect that if 10 farmers were impacted and 9 of them was black, Reason would pimp the article as “Government stealing a black farmer’s land”.
“The authors certainly seem to want us to believe the issue is one of government being racist”
Reason never publishes anything that puts government in a good light.Sometimes they praise politicians who promise less government, but that’s as far as it goes.
” it doesn’t really seem like that’s the central issue”
I promise you race is not the central issue, except for the comment section, where it is.
You might be right, that nothing in the article is racially charged, if only we exclude the click-bait title, the subtitle, and the lede. Plus the aspersion that the route may have been was chosen with racial malice. The whole thing is set up like a Vox.com blog.
Tennessee Will Use Eminent Domain To Evict Black Farmers for Ford E.V. Factory
The state promised Ford nearly $900 million in incentives, including new and upgraded roads. But it chose to run that new road through a number of black-owned farms.
One of the nation’s largest automakers has some big construction projects in the pipeline, and the Tennessee state government isn’t going to let anything stand in the way—even the private property rights of black farmers.
But the path that the state chose for the road cuts through an area of farmland whose residents are disproportionately black.
“But the path that the state chose for the road cuts through an area of farmland whose residents are disproportionately black.”
I agree. That seems to be the long and short of it. The difference between us is that I’m not offended by the author mentioning the race of those affected, while you are.
You are a racist. So, we all understand why you are okay with race being mentioned even when irrelevant.
I keep telling you. This is America. There is never an occasion when race is NOT relevant. I told you 22 hours ago: ” Race seems to be baked in from the get go.” Now I’m telling you again.
I know you’re slow. But I’ll help you out.
Race is baked in because it gets irrelevantly tossed in because of the current state of wokeism in this country and racist people like you, not because it is actually relevant or even an issue.
Try to be a little less obtuse, if you can.
I’m not offended by it. I just wonder what it has to do with the issue. Reason pimps the whole thing as a racist action by the state, while at the same time trying to make a libertarian point about the problems with the taking of land by the government.
As a libertarian, I don’t give a rat’s behind what someone’s race is when it is not material to the issue. The farmers’ race *might* have something to do with the issue, but Reason makes no effort to demonstrate any racism on the part of the state except to throw out the multiple jabs (headline, subhead, lede, etc.) AS IF it were material.
Reason’s race-baiting without evidence completely obscures the chance for rational discussion on either the libertarian points that can be made (regardless of the farmers’ race) OR provided evidence that the state was with malice and intent choosing the black farmers properties BECAUSE they are black OR even done both. Reason chose to do none of those things and instead wrote the whole piece in a Vox.com “blacks are always victims” voice.
“I’m not offended by it.”
I’m not either. There are a few others posting here who are offended but most are. As I mentioned, the very first post does and most of the rest follow suit.
“Reason’s race-baiting”
Someone else mentioned race baiting, I asked which race is reason baiting and received no response. Maybe you could help. Personally I don’t see any problem mentioning the race of the people in question, and I don’t see the impulse to attribute nefarious or dishonorable motives to the author for mentioning it. It’s noteworthy that a minority group in the nation is a majority in issue at hand. I’d expect the same thing if the farmers were Amish, especially if they were both Amish and black. I’d be more disapproving if out of fear of offending the fascists and white supremacists among us, the author practiced self censorship and scrupulously avoided mentioning their race.
Gerrymandering?
“the race of the farmers has no more bearing on the issue than their age, marital status, gender, sexual orientation, etc”
I tell you, any socialist, communist, progressive, Marxist, Neomarxist leftard will agree with you here. Your mistake? You left out socio-economic status, ‘class’ to put it in plain Anglo Saxon, from your list of identity markers. Leftists put class over race, race defers to class. ‘Black,’ to a leftist mean working class, and then some.
Oh, you’re not purposefully obtuse. You’re just an idiot.
” You’re just an idiot.”
And YOU’RE learning. Well done.
This was your response? To go back to elementary pedantry? It’s always fun watching commenters show they have no self-respect. Well done.
“This was your response? ”
Yes. Well spotted.
Still struggling, I see. Well done!
I burned my mouth drinking coffee this morning. At least I’m not black too.
Will no one think of the tranny farmers?
Lol. Right? Black farmers. Boooorrrring!
“One of the nation’s largest automakers has some big construction projects in the pipeline, and the Tennessee state government isn’t going to let anything stand in the way—even the private property rights of black farmers.”
There’s not much difference here between this Tennessee business and the practice forcibly removing indigenous populations in the Amazon to make way for carbon offset projects which do little for the environment but fill the coffers of our corporations, and allow them to keep polluting.
Make sure you give up all manufactured goods.
Taking black owned land to build a vehicle no one wants that requires black children to mine the minerals necessary to build that vehicle. Way to go Ford!
It’s cobalt from the DR Congo for the batteries for these vehicles, and smart phones and other things. And children are not ‘required’ to mine the cobalt. It’s economic expediency and turning a blind eye to rules and guidelines that fill the mines with child labor.
You’ve been to the mines and talked to the children to make sure they’re all there voluntarily?
He has not. And is also one of the most ignorant people on the site.
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Not ignorant, malevolent.
He knows and he likes it.
I like it that you read my comments and are moved to respond to them.
“You’ve been to the mines and talked to the children to make sure they’re all there voluntarily?”
I don’t have to go to the mines any more than you do. You can read, so can I. There are books. There are libraries.
Yet you’ve chosen to read nothing on the subject.
I’ve chosen to read some books on the subject, and other books on Africa in general recently. Long a back water, I think Africa will become increasingly important in world affairs. Not only do places like DR Congo have just about every resource we use in abundance, the continent is also set to experience population growth while the rest of the world stagnates, at least for the next century or so.
China, a big beneficiary of ‘voluntary’ artisanal (not industrial) mining
by children, and there are about 2 million Chinese who’ve upped stakes and emigrated to Africa. I think there are some half million Africans who are living in China.
I met Nigerian traders in Hong Kong, around the time of the handover. Back then it was small potatoes, boutique kind of stuff. They sold shark fins and bought human hair for wigs. These days, it’s more Chinese firms off shoring their light manufacturing to Africa rather than previous engagement in extractive efforts.
They also boasted how it was Nigerians who ran the show in Thai prisons, and not to cross them. But that’s a story for another thread.
Again worth pointing out that, despite the MIA Ken Schultz’s opinion, Ford doesn’t really have an option. They have an obligation to maximize their profit to shareholders and EVs are “just so overwhelmingly popular” that Biden mandated Federal adoption and CA, NY, OR, and the EU banned new ICE sales after 2035, Ford has no choice except to shift gears to meet demand.
If Ford can’t buy a company like Rivian who’s going bankrupt because of the overwhelming popularity of EVs and not because they’ve been propped up by false market signals and manipulations, they’ll have to build their own factories.
Keto rules.
Kelo – a truly terrible decision that, it seems, many of the right-wingers on this thread approve of as they did not see fit to criticise the “eminent domain” seizure, being more concerned/outraged at how Reason wrote about it.
Kelo was a lefty majority decision.
Ooops.
Kelo was a lefty majority decision.
I know. That is what makes it even more surprising that the right-wingers here criticise Reason’s report not Tennessee.
Reason‘s report is a bit of bunk. There’s nearby land there selling for $3,500 to $5,500 per acre. The $3,750 per acre from TnDOT might be on the lower end of that, but not totally as unreasonable as Lancaster makes it out to be.
^What you say when right-wingers say “We oppose ED specifically without regard for race.” but you’re too caught up in your own narratives and trying to keep blacks on the plantation to recognize what anyone’s actually said.
It’d be helpful if the Limey would post a list of just who he considers a “right-winger”, seeing as there are several posters who condemned the eminent domain aspect.
POST THE LIST!
One of the most amazing things that has recently happened with political discourse is people smugly vomiting out political false narratives even when all the surrounding evidence is to the contrary.
So much nowadays I see people pulling the same thing that SRG did. Claim people in a group all think a particular way even though the vast amount of evidence shows they believe something else. It’s so much more important to hold onto and parrot out false narratives than to address the actual. It’s just bizarre.
So much nowadays I see people pulling the same thing that SRG did
Oh stop whining – and just read the responses here, where people are complaining about Reason’s coverage, not about Tennessee. This is objectively determinable and demonstrable.
Go ahead SRG. Tell us all how race is a meaningless construct and should be ignored in favor of more critically libertarian issues.
Reason’s coverage here is inflammatory to the point where I don’t know if Tennessee has truly done anything wrong. I don’t like eminent domain at all, but it sometimes is justifiable and Constitutional when done right.
Maybe if Reason had not used race-baiting language and cherry-picked numbers, we’d be talking about Tennessee.
Not whining, just explaining my amazement that people like you push arguments that are clearly wrong, but do so anyway, and do it with confidence.
It just shows an impressive hubris and willingness to flaunt the obvious and it’s becoming a very common thing in our political discourse.
It shows that facts and reality aren’t really what’s important to most people. Rather, righteously lecturing, bullying, and lording over others is really the motivation. Maybe that’s always how it has been and it wasn’t until recently that it became socially acceptable to be so obvious about it, but it is a very interesting societal dynamic that is currently at play.
Right. I’ve said the problem would still be a problem even if all the land-owners were life-long nazis. Somehow this means that I’m not sympathetic to the actual issue just because Reason mentioned race?
British shrike goes fill British retard i see.
Is gov’na back from ‘is ‘olidays?
LOL. As I speak RP, I don’t drop my aitches.
I don’t recall anyone defending Kelo on this thread.
On any thread here.
The funny thing is, the retard brings is up in the usual “You didn’t protest loudly enough in the correct fashion!” falsely and completely oblivious to any nuance. Trying to BOAF SIDEZ! the issue and white knight for Reason like sarc does.
That is:
Just like Reason and Jo Jorgensen/the LP, they aren’t just OK with Black Lives Matter you *must* support it too, but saying, “All Lives Matter!” is just a discriminatory, racist dogwhistle. The ploy didn’t really work very well to begin with and stopped working and started being recognized as a grift a while ago, but here’s SRG, days late, dollars, and IQ points, short.
It’s not a matter of defending the indefensible in the Kelo case. It’s a matter of not condemning Tennessee in this instance.
And so far, in response to my so noting, the resident right-wing crackers here still cannot bring themselves to condemn Tennessee.
“Crackers”….hmmm, where have we heard that before…
Oh yes, Shrike uses the term all the time.
Does he? I often do, but I don’t see that the real shrike doing so. Or is this one of those idiocies that as some fuckwit thinks I’m shrike, a term I use frequently is a shrike term so my use of it means I’m shrike?
Similarly, IIRC JesseAZ suggested my use of the term Trumpsucker meant I was shrike, notwithstanding that shrike never used the term.
No. Your inability to not change tone or word usage on your socks demonstrates you are shrike dumbass. You have the exact same views and epitaph on every sock. Youre too stupid to slightly change your tics.
On the contrary, our word usage and style are very different, and you are either too stupid to see it, or do see it but prefer to repeat the lie. And further, I provided photographic evidence of my dual nationality and having gone to Oxford, which are claims that clowns like you had denied.
Nor are our opinions in lockstep – I am far more of a capitalist than he is, for example.
And having similar opinions is not good evidence – note the number of right-wingers here whose opinions are identical about pretty much everything – though I take your word that you do differ, e.g., wrt abortion.
Fuck off, basically.
No. You don’t change thought or style. Thats how everyone called you shrike day one dumbass. It wasn’t just me lol.
You have the EXACT same views. And you aren’t a capitalist. You keep defending government meddling.
notwithstanding that shrike never used the term.
This is so retarded. It’s like something stupid out of a Spiderman comic where Peter Parker says, “Spiderman never said that!” Specifically the sort of thing Peter would do because he’s young and naive but Clark Kent wouldn’t do unless it’s on purpose because he’s not an idiot.
What is retarded is the continued assertion that I am a shrike sock. It sounds as if now you’re implying that because I say something that shrike never does, it’s somehow evidence that we’re the same person – which is evidently also a retarded argument.
As I’ve pointed out more than once, you can’t argue that I have the same style as shrike and that I have a different style to disguise that I’m shrike.
Still, there appears to be plenty of semi-literate cretins on this site who cannot actually read well enough to distinguish obviously American style from obviously British style.
And finally, I note that I actually posted photographic evidence – US and UK passports and a college photo from 1974 – in support of my being British.
So either some people are either still too fucking stupid to work out that I’m not shrike, or are sufficiently dishonest that, knowing I’m not, they continue to assert that I am.
It sounds as if now you’re implying that because I say something that shrike never does, it’s somehow evidence that we’re the same person – which is evidently also a retarded argument.
Semi-literate cretins would put them above you. I’m sorry if I wasn’t clear. I don’t give a shit if you’re a shrike sock or not. It doesn’t matter to me, in this Universe, if Bruce Wayne, or Wally West or John Cena is Spiderman’s alter ego. I don’t even know who shrike is or who all is presumed to be his sock.
My problem isn’t with the fact that you are or aren’t Shrike. My problem is that, regardless, you’re an absolutely incredible moron. That’s the only reasonable conclusion to be had from someone who posts a 50 yr. old college photo online as evidence of anything. The only credible explanation to be had by asserting that people who say, “Why is Reason’s opposition to ED oriented around race?” aren’t opposed to ED, especially after Reason brought up the topic in the exact same context. As I indicated above, go ahead, tell us all how race shouldn’t be a factor.
Change socks all you like, or not, the stupid is the problem.
Well, I don’t care who you ain’t, as long as you remain stunning and brave enough to resist the KKK.
(That’s a rare thing over here in the colonies. Bravo!)
Ah, the “you haven’t condemned it enough to meet my personal demanded expectations” charge against people. I mean, it’s an easy argument approach to take because it’s always easy to win the “you haven’t met my expectations” argument.
Have you seen any condemnation of Tennessee’s conduct here?
Yes. And Reason for making it about race. If only because the last time Reason turned a libertarian issue, like police reform, into a racial football, we got a Summer of riots, looting, and talk of defunding… and Crime Bill President and VP.
Your intentions don’t fly here and it’s obvious. Whether you want to make it about race or are just trying to distract from more broad ED opposition, why do you insist other than to embarrass yourself?
Yes. And I have seen condemnation of eminent domain numerous times in the comment section.
“crackers”
So you *are* a racist…
Nope. It’s a cultural slur, not a racial one.
Sure it is, sure it is.
Most sources rate it as a racial slur. A few leftists are trying to parse out the cultural slur.
Cracker
Pejorative
Cracker, sometimes white cracker or “cracka”, is a colloquial term for white people, used especially for poor rural whites in the Southern United States. It is also at times used indiscriminately and pejoratively against any person of white background.
“The word Cracker is a racial slur that has been used historically to degrade and dehumanize whites. The word is still used by some people for this purpose, and it is seen as offensive and hurtful to whites. If you are unsure about whether or not it is appropriate to use the word Cracker, it is best to err on the side of caution and avoid using it.
CNN: ‘Cracker’ conveys history of bigotry that still resonates
Asked by the defense what Martin told her on the phone that night when he first spotted George Zimmerman, she testified a “creepy-ass cracker” was following him. There is nothing illegal about that. Jeantel said she didn’t even know it was a racial slur, and numerous commentators have noted that some in Florida use the term in a non-derogatory, colloquial sense.
But for plenty of rural, white southerners, “cracker” is a demeaning, bigoted term.
Initially, cracker was not a pejorative term, but Ferris says it has become one, the equivalent of redneck. Its meaning and intensity as an insult depends on who is saying it and who is listening. For example, a white who might not object to being called a cracker by another white might consider [other people’s] use of the phrase offensive and evidence of ill intent.
[Seems very much like how another prominent racial slur might be used in a ‘friendly’ fashion amongst members of one race, but when said by members of another race in any way, shape, or form is racist.]
“Popular leftist streamer Hasan Piker started the major controversy online by claiming that the word “cracker” is not a racial slur and in order to qualify “cracker” as a racial slur, the whites must be in a position of the oppressed economically as well as materially suppressed in a systemic level through the lens of the historical context.
“used especially for poor rural whites in the Southern United States.”
Used exclusively you mean. You’d never call King Charles of England a cracker, would you?
My advice? Flip the script. Blacks did so with ‘nigger,’ using it as a term of endearment. Whites is Hong Kong did so with ‘gweilo.’ If poor rural whites from the south haven’t the self respect to turn it around embrace the phrase, that’s on them. If those of the highlands can do it with hillbilly, the lowlanders shouldn’t have a problem doing it with cracker.
Moving the goalposts?
And ignoring the fact that that is exactly part of what I presented “Its meaning and intensity as an insult depends on who is saying it and who is listening. For example, a white who might not object to being called a cracker by another white might consider [other people’s] use of the phrase offensive and evidence of ill intent.”
“Moving the goalposts?”
No, I’m not moving any goal posts. I’m offering advice, which you thin skinned crackers are free to ignore.
“use of the phrase offensive and evidence of ill intent.”
They would probably be right, too. So what? Since when is intentionally insulting other people on the internet a problem for you? Look at the insults directed at me in the responses to my comments in this thread. I’ve been called troll, idiot, pedantic, racist, and so on. Not a word of objection from you or anyone else, including me. My second advice: grow the fuck up.
Well, if crackers are insulted by my use of the word cracker, and given that in commonest usage it applies to a cultural group not a racial one, they and you can fuck right off.
Perhaps you should hire a sensitivity reader to read threads before you do, you know, to keep you safe.
Lol. 2 people of the same race arguing over which one is the racist is just the whitest thing ever.
And it’s not helping. Just stop. All of you.
rev-arthur-l-kuckland 2 hours ago Flag Comment Mute User
Teen reason is upset because of the race, not the theft
That took two seconds of scrolling up. You may not be shrike, but you’re working at being as big a retard as him.
(fixed the html tag, hopefully. Guess not. Fuck it.)
Kelo was not about building a road for public use. It was about condemning private property and transferring ownership to another private company. This is not equivalent to the story above.
British shrike isn’t the brightest shrike sock.
I’m still no-one’s sock, fuckwit.
Keep pretending shrike. You do this on every fucking sock.
That statement would be true if and only if I were a sock. As I am not, you’re a fucking liar.
As I’ve commented elsewhere in this article, though, the “public usage” of this road is suspect. It runs between a major road and the campus, for the purposes of letting people who work for the company to go to the campus. I know this may be legitimate under the law, but just because it’s nominally legal doesn’t mean I’m actively in support of it. Building a road for your employees to use to get to work should be the company’s responsibility, if no such road already exists.
Kelo was also about the general principle of eminent domain – and was so broadly decided that it meant that it was incredibly hard to challenge any state exercise of it, particularly where – as in this case – the seizure was significantly more limited than in Kelo.
Hopefully Kelo can be challenged again at SCOTUS – Thomas is no fan of stare decisis and there are surely enough votes to overturn it.
O’doyle rules
What does high-protein diets have to do with it?
😉
“In order to reach the new facility, the North Carolina Department of Transportation plans to build a highway interchange, plus a road leading from the interstate to BlueOval City. But the path that the state chose for the road cuts through an area of farmland whose residents are disproportionately black. Of the 35 total tracts of land affected, the state still needs 20. It has filed seven lawsuits so far.”
This is all very confusing. Since when would a factory in Western Tennessee have a road for it built by the North Carolina DOT? Or is part of this referencing the one project (brought up in a later paragraph) while the rest of it is about the other?
I assumed it was a typo – the author losing track of which project (and eminent domain abuse) he was writing about in the different paragraphs.
How can a journal be expected to keep his facts straight about icky flyover states?
Joe – I don’t think you’re actually trying to argue that anyone was racist here, so why play the race card? If so, you need to substantiate that point, not just mention it in passing. I subscribe (and donate) to reason because they are usually above this kind of thing.
I hope you don’t take this the wrong way, and I think you’ve done good work in the past for this publication, so I strongly urge you to consider reposting this article with the appropriate edits. As it stands, your underlying point is completely overshadowed by this red herring.
It’s Journ-O-lism 101. The line “Hurricane Hits East Coast/ Children and Negroes Hardest Hit!” was aimed at the NY Post in the 1940s or earlier.
It must be in the Reason style guide. Every article like this has a minority as the victim.
So, something of note that is just not mentioned in the story is that the site that Ford picked for this endeavor is already directly adjacent to an interchange directly off of Interstate 40. It seems like this other route is completely unnecessary.
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.3999681,-89.4203432,4334m/data=!3m1!1e3?authuser=0
You can’t build a massive car plant whose only interstate access is a 2 lane state highway that serves as the primary egress for residential traffic
It requires a 4-6 lane beltway spur to handle the constant stream of 18 wheelers.
Living a few miles from the Saturn Parkway, I know of what I speak
Furthermore, driving from Nashville to Dallas for Thanksgiving, I encountered an interstate closure not far from the site. Having to exit and detour thru the town of Stanton, I have firsthand knowledge that the road in question is not sufficient to support the entire factory
That road (222) does appear to be a 4 lane divided highway at that location, and in any case, could they not expand that road and improve that intersection into existing right-of-way and easements, rather than confiscating hundreds of acres of farmland across 30+ parcels?
It’s part of a series of connecting roads in the area.
https://www.tn.gov/tdot/projects/region-4/sr-194-extension-exit-39.html
Rivian has a plant in Normal IL. They got a brand new interchange to I 74 and 5 lane roads all around. Looks like they may belly up but the locals got some nice new roads out of the deal.
If I recall, those were built originally for Mitsubishi for the Diamond Star Motors (Mitsubishi & Chrysler) plant that Rivian now occupies. US-150 there was called “Mitsubishi Motorway” for years. Now, it’s “Rivian Motorway”.
This is a story about what appears to be abusive eminent domain seizures of private property without just compensation. I fail to see how it is a story about black farmers, or if it does involve black farmers that they were specifically targeted or that the impact falls harder on them than on white farmers.
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I’ll give the author the benefit of the doubt. He mentioned race to garner leftist sympathy.
40 acres and an F-150.
What does race have to do with it? GFY.
Race has to do with this because white progs care most about race and are also currently the biggest fans of EVs, especially Fords now that Elon Musk is persona non grata with them. So we can send this article to white progs we know to remind them that buying a Ford EV is supporting racism. Facts don’t matter -it all about feelz.
Yes…but this one example isn’t suddenly going to get white progs feeling any differently at all about EVs, or in the government practically requiring car companies to produce EVs. It will get the mad at Tennessee specifically, and maybe Ford a little bit, for a few hours. Then it gets flushed down the memory hole.
These farmers grow the profitable sunflower plant, whose seeds come in black shells. As the glistening streams of ebony pour fourth from the augers, these farmers refer to the fruits of their labor as “black gold” or just, “black.”
They are black farmers.
You’ll know that you are finally a Senior when Pennington uses Soundgarden to sell you on their “Black Oil Sunflower Seeds.” for your bird feeder to the tune of “Black Hole Sun.”
🙂
Soundgarden–Black Hole Sun
https://youtu.be/3mbBbFH9fAg
It’s so deeply ironic that it’s a FORD plant kicking Blacks off their land. Old Henry would be proud of his legacy.
No one is being kicked off any land. TnDOT wants to buy some of the land they own for connecting roads in the area.
Ackshuyally, Henry Ford would be proud.
Henry Ford was a racist, Antisemitic supporter of Nazism, was awarded by Hitler for his Dearborn Independent newspaper serializing The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. Also, Ford profiteered from slave labor from both Nazi and Communist systems according to Werner Keller’s work East Minus West Equals Zero.
Predictably, the “libertarian” racists crawled out from under their white hoods to leave specious commentary complaining that the article dared to mention the expropriated farms are owned by Blacks.
You are welcome to explain to us why it is relevant that these farms are owned by “Blacks”.
Given what a vile racist you evidently are, EdG, you should find that easy!
Wait for it…the race card and the poor victim card will be played to the max!
Eminent Domain is nothing new for bringing in new businesses. It is supposed to be for the public good, government projects like highways. Yet many states, counties and municipalities have used it to attract commercial enterprise to their area (which is wrong in my opinion no matter who it affects).
This usually affects the poor, and has of all races and all ethnicity in many places. Yet Reason purposely injects race into this story to stir up controversy.
Would “faux libertarian” Reason support Eminent Domain for commercial enterprises if the farmers where white? Would that be the difference to make it okay to Reason? It sure seems so.
This is a real problem, as race itself is not a factor, being poor is, the people that do not have the funds or political clout to fight city hall. Reason is now on the level of CNN or MSNBC, now looking to stir up racial hatred rather that talk about the real issue, government overreach, Shame on them.
There’s an interesting history of race and government construction of highways.
In a word, black neighborhoods are bulldozed for the convenience of white commuters.
In the middle of the last century segregation in schools and the work place was being struck down by the courts, and the highway became one of the principal tools the state uses to keep the races in their place, where they belong. As, I wrote before, there’s not a single issue of consequence that doesn’t have a racial dimension.
In Mount Pleasant, Wisconsin, families were forced out for a huge hi-tech plant – but three years later, it still hasn’t been built
“They demolished my house for this? A bunch of geese that sit on a hill?” McFarlane, 37, asked. “It’s upsetting. That’s where my old house was, and now it’s just nothing. You know? Nothing.”
Village leaders upended lives in the name of acquiring property for the company, residents say. Some continue to fight for their land while others took inadequate relocation packages and left. A few saw their homes seized by the village.
Yet no one cares, no one wrote stories about them, Reason certainly didn’t, because they are white, not black. This has happened many times across the US.
Government abuse and overreach is the problem, whether you are black or white, or Asian or native American. People without money and political power always are the ones to suffer.
“Yet no one cares”
You mean no white person cares. Different story if the demolished house housed black Americans. We refer to the ‘black community’ for a reason. It’s a community and they have each other’s backs, and will come out in support. Same thing happens when police kill some random black guy on the street. It’s blacks who come out and make a fuss. If it’s a white guy randomly killed… crickets. The non existent ‘white community’ stays home, whining about tranny toilets or whatever outrage they saw on TV the night before.
The story should be about the abuse of the government using “Eminent Domain” to deprive people of their property for commercial interests instead of for the public good which was the intent of Eminent Domain. Again race has nothing to do with this story. Reason is race baiting.
“Again race has nothing to do with this story.”
Spoken like a true leftist. It’s class of course. The state is abusing the working class. But it’s also about race, this being America, where black people are traditionally a rung or two below their white counterparts.
“Reason is race baiting.”
I’m not sure what you mean. Which race is reason baiting?
There’s an interesting history here of you constantly towing a leftist line, in these comments, for years.
Read what Liberty Lover wrote again, this time for comprehension.
“There’s an interesting history here of you constantly towing a leftist line, in these comments, for years.”
They call it ‘free speech.’ Have done for years. It’s toeing, by the way, as in standing in the correct position. If you like I can also do their, there and they’re for you.
Yes black inner cities had no freeways into the black areas, and no exits from the black areas, the freeways magically appeared out of nowhere at the black area borders and then magically disappeared again at the other end of the black area borders.
Of course on the way in there are freeways, through white areas, Hispanic areas, Asian areas, industrial areas, suburban areas and even rural areas. All those areas got bulldozed too, to manage the flow of traffic through the city.
I lived in Milwaukee in the 1970’s. The main freeway from the north, HWY41 turned into HWY 45 while HWY 41 exited and went through the black district. HWY 45 then turned into I-90/94 and went to the lake that split the downtown business district and the Hispanic area before continuing south through mostly white areas. You could also take I-894 around the west side, again through mostly white areas. From the south the HWY 41 freeway went north through the downtown area and then ended as a 4 lane through the city just past the downtown business district, again not through the black area. HWY 141 did go north in a middle class area between the black area and the wealthy Lake Shore area. That is now I-43. Black areas were little impacted at the time. Of course they have expanded past those highways currently as blacks became more affluent and bought homes in previously white areas. So the majority of “bulldozed areas” where not in black neighborhoods.
“Of course on the way in there are freeways, through white areas, Hispanic areas, Asian areas, industrial areas, suburban areas and even rural areas. All those areas got bulldozed too, to manage the flow of traffic through the city.”
You really think that predominantly white suburbs were bulldozed for the convenience of predominantly black inner city dwellers? What country do you come from, if you’ll pardon a personal question.
“Neither race nor class has anything to do with that directly.”
Indirectly is all you need.
Am disappointed in Reason for using the word Black in the heading.
Shame on you!
Would Reason have approved if all the farmers had fair skin?
I had somehow thought that Reason was against this sort of government takings regardless of the skin color of the one losing the land.
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All the Dem supreme court appointees supported Kelo.
Why do I have to scroll all the way to the end of all these idiotic comments to leave one of my own? No wonder the comment section is such a joke…anyone with half a brain wouldn’t waste their time scrolling down to the end. And yet here I am. Ha.
No, but seriously, most blogs/platforms let you comment right away. What gives?
Makes sense. What was the name of the Nazi medal Germany’s Christian National Socialist government pinned on Henry Ford before WW2?
I actually would look at it a different way. I think the math should not only include market price for the land, but should also consider profits the farmer makes on the land. The farmer should get market price for the land AND something like 10 years of future profits since they will have to start over somewhere else. Anything less and the farmer should find them to the bitter end.
‘Not really sure why the race of the farmers is in the headline. Would this be more acceptable if the farmers were White/Hispanic/American Indian/Asian/Aleut/???
>>Farm land in fucking Iowa is at about $12,000/acre right now.
ya my mom’s in Iowa. was wondering whether Tennessee was paved with gold or something
all to make cars nobody wants
Better than reparations. And I’m betting that working in the EV plant pays more than farming.
Land in the ritziest Nashville neighborhoods sells for that. Not pastureland in the middle of nowhere. How idiotic
Yes, That is the going rate in Iowa.
And apparently black farmers is a thing that is special? Not sure why but I have heard it before.
What have they done to the old home place
Why did they tear it down
And why did I leave the plow in the field
And look for a job in the town
What? Are shrub leaves suddenly legal in Michigan?
Not nobody. Tony has supported it. Others on the left have rationalized it may be good at times.
And yet none of you here have yet criticised Tennessee. Funny that.
They still believe in the Weld strategy here that if they adopt political correctness and enough liberal talking points and beliefs they will get more libertarians from the left.
Written by Mitch Jayne and Dean Webb, first recorded by the Dillards. I didn’t even have to look this one up.
Sounds like the Episcopal Church.
And they’ve gotten nothing but a declining membership in return.
Are you aware of what Kelo was even about?
Roads have generally been agreed even by libertarians as an effective transfer of property for public use. Kelo was about transferring property to a company based on estimated future tax gains. Non public use outside of estimated tax revenues.
This is much closer to the norm than to a Kelo discussion.
And the article completely lied about the issue to focus it on race as you see above with actual comps.
In the case of Kelo the property was condemned and forced transfer at below market rates. Here it is for roads, public use, at market rates.
So your ignorance of what the discussion should have been is noted. It is not what Reason actually wrote about to elicit an emotional response targeting retards like yourself.
Are you fucking delusional? Have you read any of the comments?
Where have I heard that State? Who became President after Lincoln was murdered?
Just FYI, my obtuseness is never accidental. It is always on purpose.
Yup. Have you? Or are you as dishonest as JesseAZ?
I think that the axiomatic libertarian position would be that if Ford wants the road, they have to contract freely with the farmers directly. It would be easy enough to put a clause in the contract triggering a purchase only if all farmers agree to the sale.
it’s a lost cause at this point,
Mom, who grew up on a dirt road, gave me, who grew up on a dirt road the “MUH ROADZ!” argument once. Yeah, it’s a lost cause.
“Because these people make their livings off their FARMLAND, which is the land in question, retard.”
They call them what they are, as you’ve just done: people who make their living off farmland. Why the gratuitous insult. It’s bad enough being black, but a black FARMER? Come on, man.
I see that you think doubling down on racism is a good strategy. You ever met Misek? You two might get along really well.
Cite shrike?
Be proud of pretending to be an idiot in order to sound smart. So many levels of facepalm you got going there.
Not surprising there either, with more and more EVs on the road screwing up the AM bands.
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Agreed, I’m sceptical of the use of eminent domain and think it’s entirely possible that the owners are being lowballed but I don’t believe for a minute that $200,000 is what land in that area typically sells for.