The Morally Funky Math of Homeowner Handouts
The rich are getting richer under the Inflation Reduction Act.

When the libertarian philosopher Robert Nozick dragged his landlord before the Cambridge Rent Control Board, Murray Rothbard, who also lived in a rent-controlled apartment and also did philosophy, argued that there is a moral difference between accepting a subsidy and agitating for one. "One is living your life within a State-created matrix, while trying to work against the system," Rothbard wrote in a 1987 issue of Liberty. "The other is actively using the State to benefit yourself and screw your fellow man, which means initiating and abetting aggression and theft."
Christians might call this being in the world but not of it. Rothbard called it "rationality and good sense" to take a handout you never asked for. In that spirit, I recently set out to learn what federal subsidies my wife and I might be able to collect under the High-Efficiency Electric Homes and Rebates Act, which was tucked into the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA), a 2022 law that I think is bad.
The short answer is "none." And while it might just be the sour grapes talking, my investigation left me wondering why so many other homeowners are eligible.
As it turns out, the IRA rebate for updating our main electrical panel, which we did in October for $2,500, is income-limited. Households that earn less than 80 percent of the area's median income are eligible for panel rebates up to $4,000; households between 80 and 150 percent of the area median income can receive a 50 percent discount. Due to our good fortune, the government won't pay for even half of our new circuit-breaker box.
"That's as it should be!" you might be thinking. But there is more to the story. According to Rewiring America, a clean energy advocacy group, we could have received up to $600 for the main panel job if we had an energy-efficient water heater installed in conjunction with it. We would have been eligible for a 30 percent main-panel credit if we also installed solar panels. The solar panels come with their own 30 percent tax credit.
That's where the math gets morally funky. "Even with the new federal tax credit—and other available incentives, including state tax incentives—home solar panels are expensive," the Pew Research Center noted in an October 2022 report. Pew found that the "average installation cost of a residential solar panel system so far this year can range from $16,870 to $23,170 after applying the federal solar tax credit."
Those figures made me wonder about the average solar adopter. "Median solar adopter income was about $110k/year in 2021, compared to a U.S. median of about $63k/year for all households," according to a November report from the Energy Department's Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory. Solar adopters tend to be middle-aged, non-Hispanic whites who primarily speak English and "work in business and finance-related occupations." Compared to the general population, they "have higher education levels" and "live in higher-value homes."
Some of my dearest friends are highly educated, upper-middle-class white people. They did not lobby for these subsidies, and I wouldn't begrudge their attempts to shrink their carbon footprints. But things like my new electrical panel (to say nothing of a five-figure solar panel array) make it cheaper to power a house and make that house more valuable. It seems perverse for the government to help well-off people pay for investments that make them richer.
The same goes for the subsidies that electric vehicle owners can receive for charging stations (for cash-strapped Tesla owners, one assumes) as well as the battery storage subsidy and the geothermal energy subsidy. These are upgrades for rich people. The financial returns they offer—to say nothing of the environmental benefits—surely should be incentive enough.
Or maybe I'm just salty about being too rich for one set of subsidies and too poor for the other.
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At some point, the government will be broke and unable to afford these subsidies and it will just start demanding that taxpayers pay each other for these nice things. Get your spare bedrooms ready to receive your allotment of illegal immigrants.
That's how it works now.
The government has been "broke" for decades.
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I don't see any of the things you say in the article you link to.
Captain Kirk should have wasted him - - - - - - - -
Duh. Why even have "democracy" if we can't vote ourselves free shit?
Remember when the people amended the constitution for energy subsidies????
Yeah; me neither…. F’En [Na]tional So[zi]alists (Nazi’s).
Funny how anyone talks of American pride or the USA – that just doesn’t exist anymore; this is a Nazi-Empire ran nation that conquered the USA by "save our democracy" indoctrination over "save our Constitution".
what's the break even time on something that costs 20k? Does it break even before end of life or close to it and major repairs? If I average about $70 a month in electricity (with zero hidden costs or repair costs) and it's all supplied by this upgrade I'd still be looking at about 10 years with subsidy to break even.
“what’s the break even time on something that costs 20k?”
I ran the numbers a few years ago for a full-house system in central valley in CA. The “payback time” was about 15 years with the subsidies. But note that CA now applies surcharges to such a system, after, IIRC, five years, and the installation, due to the market will result in higher property taxes. Depending on the local market-value of the house, that increase can be a minimal effect on taxes, or significant. Of course, in coastal Oregon, with significantly fewer “sun days” than where I lived in CA, the pay-back time is much, much longer. In the house I currently live in, the payment (at 3% interest), on a 20-year loan would almost exactly double my electricity cost.
Will depend on where you live and what your costs are.
Where I live the major expense is AC. My bill can go from under 50 bucks in the spring to over 300 in the summer. Still, I average about 1650 for a while year.
Let's round that up to 2k (assuming I am a bit more liberal with the AC with 'free" solar energy) and add in loan costs you're probably talking a 15 year payback for the solar part.
Panels will last 30ish so you can save up enough to pay for the next install out of pocket.
Batteries, however, only last 10-15 years so you'll have to budget replacing those. Assuming they do not burn your house down.
Can we factor in the costs of disposing of those batteries?
The real costs, hazardous waste surcharges and all that jazz?
That's like asking what kind of gas mileage a motor home gets.
If you can afford it then it doesn't matter.
Yeah I think that's a point right that many will not come out and say? That's not everyone's reason of course, it may or may not be the monetarily or ecologically reason but to many it's status of something.
They do it for the same reason some people bought VCR machines in the early 80s or the first iPhone. These are the same people who don't look at the price of meat at the grocery store. They just buy what they want. They do it because they can.
How does a new panel make it cheaper to power a house?
According to EPA “The future of home energy and transportation is electric. You can prepare by making your home ready for additional electric appliances, equipment and an EV charger.”
They want you to upgrade your service to support an all electric home and a 220V charger
I'd settle for a 230V coffee maker and tea kettle; at 110V/15A, heating water takes too long.
(Many European homes have 230V/16A for every outlet, and three phase 400V/48A for appliances.)
This is like saying that your dentist is "rich." Or your wife's divorce attorney is "rich."
The 1% are rich, the guy down the street with a boat is not.
Show me someone in the bottom 10% in the US, and I'll show you someone who's in the top 10% of the entire world.
Rich simply means "He's got more than me." It's relative.
"Rich simply means “He’s got more than me.” It’s relative."
Yerp.
Rich = Anyone who makes a dollar more than me.
Hence the perpetual "The rich need to pay their fair share!"
I finally figured out what fair share means. It means until they no longer have more stuff than me.
How about "the morally funky math of American middle class entitlement"? The US has a $1.4T deficit and $30T debt.
Yet, the median US family pays only about 12% in income taxes, 16.3% in FICA contributions, and 10.6% for an ACA plan, and a median sales tax of 6.8%.
This compares to 33% in income taxes for a median German family; that family also makes about 30% less, and pays another 18.6% in "social security", 14.6% for health insurance, and 19% in sales tax.
The problem in the US is that the US middle class is greedy and entitled, and politicians give them what they want: huge government handouts, low taxes, and lots of virtue signaling with social programs. That's why the US is careening off a fiscal cliff.
The problem in the US is that the parasite class is greedy and entitled, and, being politicians, they give themselves whatever they want: huge government handouts, low taxes, and lots of virtue signaling with social programs. That’s why the US is careening off a fiscal cliff.
There, FTFY
Sorry to have to tell you: the US "parasite class" is, in fact, the US middle class.
But the rich pay it all - - - - - - - -
Gov-Gun theft @ 45.7% (minus hidden/sin taxes) vs. 85%.
Well one thing is for sure Communism and Socialism is taking over.
Actually, "Gov-Gun theft" is probably stealing around 80-85% in the US as well, but it's done via the Fed and the deficit.
if I steal my neighbor's solar panels are we even?
Woah there Jean Valjean, I seem to be missing my catalytic converter and my allergy medicine.
bro-in-law was victim of attempted conversion of catalytic converter. crazy
You know government hates competition. 🙂
even with subsidies solar panels are a rip off. the roi is decades of use. you're better off just paying for your power from the power company.
Morality has nothing to do with law in general, and tax law in particular.
I have had two clients come into my office this tax season and tell me they need to know how much the solar credit is because the people that sold them the panels told them they have to pay that credit back to them or the fees and cost per month will go up. The problem is they are told by the salesman they will get 30% back as a credit, which is true. But the catch is that it is a non-refundable credit. So the couple that spent 60,000 on panels and installation gets an $18000 dollar credit only if they have $18000 in tax liability. The reality was they got a $788 credit this year to lower their liability to zero. Next year the remainder will lower it to zero and so on and so forth until the $18000 is used up. What that means for paying back the solar company that is expecting $18000 I don’t know, but it seems like someone is pulling a scam.
Hello,
The issue of homeowner handouts, or government subsidies for homeownership, is a complex and morally ambiguous one. On one hand, providing assistance to homeowners can help stimulate the economy, promote homeownership, and provide financial stability to families. On the other hand, it can also lead to moral hazard, where homeowners take on more debt and risk than they can handle, and can result in unfair advantages for certain groups over others. Here are some examples of morally funky math related to homeowner handouts:
Inequitable distribution: Homeowner handouts can benefit certain groups of people, such as those with high incomes or good credit scores, over others who may not have access to the same resources. This can lead to inequitable distribution of resources and exacerbate income inequality.
Risky behavior: When homeowners receive handouts, they may take on more debt than they can afford, leading to financial instability and risk. This can create moral hazard, where homeowners feel less responsible for their actions and may engage in risky financial behavior.
Cost to taxpayers: Homeowner handouts are often funded by taxpayer dollars, which can be a burden on those who do not own homes or cannot afford to buy them. This can lead to resentment and division among different groups of people, as some may feel that their tax dollars are being used unfairly.
Unintended consequences: Homeowner handouts can have unintended consequences, such as inflating housing prices or creating a false sense of security among homeowners. This can lead to a housing bubble, where prices become unsustainable and lead to economic instability.
It is important to consider the ethical implications of homeowner handouts and to weigh the benefits against the costs. While these subsidies can provide much-needed assistance to homeowners, they can also have negative consequences that must be taken into account. Ultimately, it is up to policymakers and individuals to decide what actions are morally justifiable in addressing the complex issues surrounding homeownership and government subsidies.
Hmmm.... faulty AI or chimpanzee?