New York Lawmakers Want To Use a 'Netflix Tax' To Pay for the Subway
From delivery fees to streaming taxes, New York can’t stomach having MTA users actually pay for the system themselves.

After New York City's Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) approved a budget authorizing a 5.5 percent fare increase to address chronic budget shortfalls, the state assembly flew into action coming up with ways to avoid that. New York's latest tax scheme would attempt to pay for the MTA by hiking taxes on everyone from streaming services like Netflix to small delivery businesses to digital workers—basically, on everyone except the actual riders of public transportation.
Under its 2023 budget, the MTA is set to run a $600 million deficit, even after using nearly $1.8 billion in federal pandemic-related aid. Things will get even worse once that federal aid runs out—in 2025, the MTA is set to run a $3 billion deficit.
In place of fare increases, Gov. Kathy Hochul has now proposed an increase on the top payroll tax rate paid by employers: from 0.34 percent to 0.5 percent in New York City and surrounding counties served by MTA trains and buses. State legislators have countered with a hodgepodge of proposals, including a 2 percent increase on the top statewide corporate tax rate, applying state and local sales taxes to streaming services, and a new $0.25 "delivery fee" on delivery transactions within New York (with some exceptions).
While in general taxes are difficult to directly connect to the government services a taxpayer receives, user fees are not—the fee paid is directly related to the service received. With the ridership landscape fundamentally changing, that model is becoming increasingly untenable as the MTA refuses to adapt.
Transit ridership in New York City, like in other cities across the country, took an enormous hit during the pandemic, with ridership rates dropping below 40 percent of pre-pandemic levels. While ridership rates have somewhat bounced back post-COVID, it's unlikely that they'll return to pre-pandemic levels anytime soon. MTA ridership levels for February 2023 across buses and subways was about 65 percent of those of February 2019.
Rates of remote work may have peaked during the pandemic, but most Americans returning to the office aren't doing so on a daily basis, preferring instead to settle on a hybrid arrangement of working from the office some days and from home on others. To the New York City government, those days residents spend working from home are days residents are not swiping their MTA cards.
But most government agencies don't believe that a shrinking mandate means less funds are required, and they try to fight the tide. The proposed solution by New York legislators to shift the burdens onto the perceived "winners" of the increasingly digitized economy has unfortunately been the preferred response.
Corporate income tax increases are nothing new, but "streaming taxes" are. While other states and localities have looked to target digital and streaming services for special taxes, New York's proposal would actually just be subjecting Netflix to the normal statewide sales tax. That's at least better than, say, Chicago, which subjects streaming services to its 9 percent "amusements" tax instead of its 1.5 percent sales tax. It's certainly better than East St. Louis, Illinois, which attempted to penalize streaming companies for "trespassing" on city property to deliver streaming services to its residents.
But possibly even worse than a streaming tax is the seemingly innocuous $0.25 "delivery fee." A similar law was passed in Colorado in 2021, requiring sellers to charge a $0.27 fee on all deliveries within the state. While not an enormous amount of money, this "fee" has given smaller retailers disproportionate headaches over the difficulty of tacking it on to invoices and including it in their sales tax compliance systems. For small businesses already struggling with the fallout of new state laws requiring remote sales tax collection, this would be yet another kick in the gut.
Taken together, these tax proposals represent an effort to shift the burden of paying for an overspending MTA off of the New Yorkers who use it and onto other taxpayers, including those who are out-of-state. That's a strategy New York has already aggressively pursued through its "convenience of the employer" rule.
Despite how the phrase sounds, "convenience of the employer" rules are anything but convenient. They effectively require employees who work for New York companies to continue paying New York taxes even if they work remotely out of state and never set foot in New York throughout the year. Not only does this violate basic principles of tax fairness, but it also subjects taxpayers to the risk of double taxation when they get stuck in a tug of war between the tax departments of their state of residence and New York.
These aggressive policies of exporting tax burdens are a major reason that New York is ranked 47 out of 50 on a recent report by the National Taxpayers Union Foundation that ranked states on their tax policies toward remote workers. They also represent New York's determination to refuse to acknowledge or embrace the change brought about by the pandemic, choosing instead to try to creatively shift tax burdens elsewhere.
But whether New York likes it or not, things have changed. Taxpayers can choose to live further from their jobs and don't have to sit on packed trains every day if they don't want to. Unfortunately, it seems that just about the only people who won't have to pay for the MTA refusing to acknowledge that fact are the people who still use it.
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"They effectively require employees who work for New York companies to continue paying New York taxes even if they work remotely out of state and never set foot in New York throughout the year."
Wasn't there some kind of an issue over taxation without representation in the past?
1619 Project changed all that, it was about slavery.
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Especially in Massachusetts, where the royal governor vetoed a law passed by the colonial legislature to ban slavery.
Yes, but today's "patriots" now protest/insurrect at the capital for taxation without representation. Sort of the bizzaro world's Boston Massacre.
The proposals discussed are good ideas as far as they go, but they don't go far enough. The tax on deliveries should equal the fee charged for the delivery or the cost of the item delivered whichever is greater. Likewise, there is no reason why the tax on Netflix should not be equal to the charge Netflix makes to the customer. And sales and use taxes should typically be at least 50% of the value of the transaction. All this in New York State alone, you understand. They need more money to pay the dindoonuffins and to pay for the sanctuaried illegal aliens the governor of Texas keep shipping to them.
Nothing is too good for New Yorkers but unfortunately the State of New York doesn't have it's own printing press. Perhaps it could develop a "script" system, accompanied by a law that requires all state contractors, including grocery stores that take SNAP cards, to accept the script as payment in full. Gov. Hochul just wants to do some good to somebody - and nothing is too good for New Yorkers!
I would rather demand "no representation without taxation".
And “no representation without citizenship”.
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At least Hochul's proposals tax city residents....the City representatives in the state government are hellbent on subsidizing NYC transit by using statewide tax receipts.
I'm sure the Rev. will be by soon to tell us all how the country bumpkin clingers are net takers and the industrious, hardworking city mice are net givers.
Some subsidies are better than others, particularly when slack-jawed, bigoted hayseeds are the beneficiaries?
That’s it? That’s all you got?
He's also got a giant rubber cock jammed down his throat. So there's that.
You forgot about the two even larger dildos he has crammed in his rectum. He’s just a bitter Klinger. Angry that he’s broke, and his conservative boss is rich.
Bad news, rev:
The woke/progressive obsession with identity politics has awakened a long (mostly) dormant re evaluation of who brings what to the table. The conclusion:
We’ll be fine. Best of luck to you, the soy boys, the pink hairs, and anyone who thinks that hard work is “white supremacy”.
Hey Arty. You leftist cunts had a ‘big victory’ in the culture war this week over in Nashville.
You must have been so proud when that tranny fellow traveler killed those little kids.
""Transit ridership in New York City, like in other cities across the country, took an enormous hit during the pandemic, with ridership rates dropping below 40 percent of pre-pandemic levels. While ridership rates have somewhat bounced back post-COVID, it's unlikely that they'll return to pre-pandemic levels anytime soon.""
It wasn't making money before the pandemic either.
MTA estimates they lose up to $360 million a year to fare beaters. Now add it what they are spending on illegals to house, feed and clothe and provide medical services at their local ER's. But the sheep will do nothing let their fees and taxes be raised - well before or well after any election.
If the DA will not prosecute anybody for fare evasion...why does anybody pay anything?
The DA just made the public transit system free there. Sure, they lack the POWER to do that, but nobody seems anxious to curtail THAT.
How about a $20 camping fee for sleeping on the train? Triple fairs for known manspreaders?
If you drive a car - I'll tax the street
If you try to sit - I'll tax your seat
If you get too cold - I'll tax the heat
If you take a walk - I'll tax your feet
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Of course ridership has failed to return. Who wants to ride a train that smells like an outhouse, overcrowded large parts of the day and is filled with people who want your money( the beggars will ask and the muggers demand)?
And given that punishment for law breakers has been neutered, who wants to deal with the headache of potential assaults as well?
Just charge an extra fare for any weapons riders might bring aboard the train and encourage riders to "bring a friend". Solves two problems at once. Just ask Bernie. (Goetz, not Sanders.)
Hey, there's a ton of Muni-union votes at stake here!
Seems like adding 25 cents to the cost of mailing a letter would make the post office even less competitive? Or does one pay the mailperson upon delivery?
I use the Post Office about twice a year at most. I certainly don’t trust them to deliver anything important. They’re too unaccountable.
A little more nuance and intellectual honesty is required from those who dogmatically insist that only direct users of a public service should pay for it. Mass transit systems generate numerous positive externalities that merit factoring into how it's financed. Drivers benefit from lessened traffic (think traffic's bad now, wait till the trains shut down) and lessened need for even more roads; everyone breathes the cleaner air from fewer cars and stands to benefit, if there is any, from lower carbon emissions; real estate developers and their tenants benefit from the access and mobility; and of course employers and employees benefit from the same things. And on it goes.
Not that this justifies taxing any old unrelated goods or services, which is just plain stupid, cynical, or both, and is unfair to the consumers of those other things; governments should own up to the costs and trade-offs through general taxation. But limiting payment for the system just to its riders is unfair as well.
Good idea,"tax the shit out of anyone who owns property within walking distance of a train platform".
being behind a bus does count as breathing clean air, worse than other vehicles actually
Just wait until they make all the buses run on electricity - but refuse to expand dispatchable generating capacity or the grid.
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Fuck Hochul. Fuck Democrats. Fuck anyone who thinks they know better than me as to how to spend my money.
Also fuck anyone who seeks government provision of material benefits.
Anyone not fucked yet?
I guess the mass murder at a Christian School here in Flyover Land by a deranged Trans activist acting on the ‘Genocidal’ rhetoric spread by the mass media is too local of a story
Social justice demands that poor rural rednecks pay for public transit of wealthy, privileged city dwellers!
The fine people of New York get what they vote for. All they care about is the letter next to a candidates name. Enjoy the shit sandwich you ordered, New York.
In recent years, some lawmakers in New York State have proposed implementing a "Netflix tax" to help fund public transportation, including the subway. The idea behind the tax is to generate revenue by imposing a small tax on digital streaming services such as Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Prime.
The rationale behind the proposal is that traditional cable TV subscribers already pay taxes that help fund public services, and digital streaming services have become a popular alternative to traditional cable TV. Therefore, it is argued that it is only fair that these services also contribute to the public coffers.
However, implementing a Netflix tax is not without controversy. Some argue that it unfairly targets a specific industry, while others contend that it could lead to a slippery slope of taxing other digital services such as music and e-books.
Ultimately, whether or not a Netflix tax is implemented to fund the subway will depend on the political will of lawmakers and the public's willingness to accept it as a necessary measure.
I'd be interested to hear the conversation between work-at-home Brooklyn progressives behind closed doors - they're the ones who aren't riding public transportation any more. Are they really happy to give their money away?
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