When the Government Makes Poverty Worse
A Pennsylvania survey suggests that taxes are often a major barrier to economic security, ranking ahead of credit card debt and student loans.

For individuals struggling to make ends meet, the government might be causing more problems than it is solving.
As part of a new report released Monday, a survey of more than 1,000 low-income Pennsylvanians found that taxes are often a major barrier to economic security—ranking ahead of more commonly discussed problems such as credit card debt and student loans. Among those surveyed, all of whom have incomes below 200 percent of the federal poverty level (about $53,000 annually for a family of four), the average respondent reported paying $4,575 per year in taxes.
Elizabeth Stelle, director of policy analysis for the Commonwealth Foundation, the pro-market think tank that published the report, says the data should prompt officials to rethink some of the root causes of poverty in the state and across the country.
"Before we start talking about more ways to alleviate the symptoms of poverty," Stelle says, "we need to take a step back and think about what obstacles the government has in place right now that are holding back people that are limiting prosperity."
That's not the only common myth that the new report aims to bust. Here's another: Most poor Pennsylvanians (63 percent) work or are currently seeking a job. Meanwhile, the report also found that poverty is not exclusively a crisis for cities and other urban areas. In fact, of the five Pennsylvania counties with the highest poverty rates, four are found in sparsely populated rural areas (the fifth is Philadelphia).
Poverty in Forest County—deep in the wilderness of the Allegheny Mountains southeast of Erie—is far different from poverty in Philadelphia. Stelle sees that as an argument against one-size-fits-all government-based poverty reduction schemes, which can fail to take into account the needs of individuals in such diverse economic environments.
Though the report surveys only a single state, Pennsylvania is a useful political and economic microcosm for the country as a whole. It has urban pockets, sprawling and prosperous suburbs, an industrial legacy, and widespread rural areas that are often overlooked. It remains a crucial swing state and a political bellwether—its state legislature is currently enduring a weeks-long crisis that makes Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy's election look tame by comparison. As such, it's an important laboratory of democracy and a state where shifting views on policy can have national implications.
Pennsylvania has increased spending on social welfare programs over the past few decades, but the poverty rate in the state has remained stubbornly flat, the report shows. The paper asks officials to consider a counterfactual history: If Pennsylvania had enacted a rule in 2003 that capped future government spending increases at a combination of inflation and population growth (and had returned the surplus to taxpayers), the average low-income resident of the state would have an extra $20,000 in the bank today, simply due to the lower tax burden.
That's a messier solution to poverty than drawing up government programs that specifically target people living in certain conditions. But it's one that would empower every individual in the state to make their own decisions about how to pursue prosperity.
"Governments are not so good about customizing programming and figuring out what's going to help you and your individual situation," she says. "If you want to help everybody, just give them more economic freedom."
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For individuals struggling to make ends meet, the government might be causing more problems than it is solving.
lol "might" haha.
"Among those surveyed, all of whom have incomes below 200 percent of the federal poverty level (about $53,000 annually for a family of four), the average respondent reported paying $4,575 per year in taxes."
I'm supposing they're are referencing sales taxes, and taxes on gasoline etc. because no one in this income bracket are paying $.01 in income taxes.
In fact, I believe these are the people, along with their knowing advocates, who keep voting for more government to take care of them.
Property taxes too, paid directly or indirectly through rent.
True, as a passed through cost in the case of rental property.
It gets funny when people point to an area and say the housing costs are low, because the selling prices of homes are less than surrounding areas. The funny part is taxes. Average payments are similar. People are forced to sell for less because buyers are looking at the total payment, meaning loan payment plus taxes or rent that includes taxes, and the only part they can come down on is price.
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Income tax for the very low income folk is not an issue.
Taxes on anything purchased, including any form of dwelling, are well hudden. Fuel taxes including for propane or firewood, are higher than, say, toilet paper, whch is also taxed. That tent they bought at Goodwill for twennyfiedollah incuded tax. Many get fast food from eat on stand,s again taxed at usually ten percent. Any who have a car, and many do, when they reguster it first time they pay a tax of about ten percent of its value. NOT what he paid for it, but what their skewed book SAYS its worth.n Then an annual brobe to gthe government for thepriviledge of driving it on the roads. Then any minor traffic infraction adds more givernment hand-filling. Most states, taxes on anythng you obtain by oterh than purchase for money is increased in out ofpocket cost by ten percent. On a total annual income of, say, eight thousand, that's eight hundred going to feed the well housed and comfortable gummit poohbahs that manage all this mess.
And that's not even approaching other means government adds costs.... outrageously high minimum wage meaning unskilled cannot be hired because they [produce less value then their salaries, after taxes. Then we have government taxes on businesses of any sort, the real estate they occupy, their employees, etc, all ADD to the cost of doing business and thus the cost of what they produce or deliver.
The idea of cutting taxes to reduce poverty make sense as the poor likely use all their money to buy day necessities that are taxed. They would therefore benefit from reduced consumption taxes. The problem is that most tax relief is aimed higher income brackets. In fact we are seeing a push to eliminate income taxes that likely pass over those in poverty and replace these with consumption taxes that will more directly impact the poor.
The regressive nature of consumption taxes is a feature, not a bug, to those who wish a switch from income taxes to sales taxes,
A very high deductible, and at most two tax bands/rates above that, with few if any deductions, seems to me a good approach.
"The regressive nature of consumption taxes is a feature, not a bug, to those who wish a switch from income taxes to sales taxes..."
There have been several discussions concerning the regressive nature of a consumption tax on these boards. The solution to the impact of consumption taxes is really quite simple: a rebate made to every household (based on the number of citizens living in that household), equal to the amount collected via the consumption tax on, say, $10,000 per person (just a for-instance figure). So, those living near the poverty line would receive a quarterly (or monthly, or whatever, check) equal to the amount they paid out in pocket in consumption tax.
It's not as "progressive" as the current system, but it is not "regressive."
This would eliminate the need for the IRS as is currently exists, and while disruptive to the $12 billion tax-preparer industry, would be a boon to everyone else.
My view is a consumption tax would dramatically increase the 'base' to be taxed, resulting in significantly higher government receipts. There are a variety of ways to address people at the lowest end of the household income scale in a consumption based system; some rebate money (reimburse after the fact), others prebate (think a version of UBI), no tax on food, etc. There are viable ways to address the poor so they are not harmed, is the point.
The real issue is control. Consumers can control their spending. But we cannot control payroll taxes; the government does. That is why I think it would be hard to switch over. The government will never want to give up that power to tap your income (or assets).
A consumption tax would make things more visible. Everyone feels the impact of a tax increase overnight; that makes every governmental spending choice a lot more visible and palpable. Example: Do you want to pay $1.17 on every transaction to pay for weapons to Ukraine? That is what I mean by visible, it becomes very apparent at a granular (transactional) level. This is just an example, not real. But we have the ability to get this info.
I would like to see a consumption tax, but the hurdles in switching over are formidable. Under no circumstance can we ever permit double dipping: an income tax + a consumption tax. The government will want to double dip and we must never let that happen, or we are done.
"My view is a consumption tax would dramatically increase the ‘base’ to be taxed, resulting in significantly higher government receipts."
The government will ALWAYS be seeking higher receipts, no matter what the method of taxation. Like all things government, it depends on who we send to Congress.
"A consumption tax would make things more visible."
Yep. When the cost is printed right there on the receipt, it might just give some folks pause to wonder....
"I would like to see a consumption tax, but the hurdles in switching over are formidable."
Ya think?
"Under no circumstance can we ever permit double dipping: an income tax + a consumption tax. The government will want to double dip and we must never let that happen, or we are done."
Absolutely.
Cut all income tax entirely. Do not replace with consumption tax.
hope this helps.
>>government might be causing more problems than it is solving.
every step in the correct direction is a good one ...
taxes are theft and certainly have an effect on the poor, but the biggest cause of the poor's barrier to economic security is their own bad decisions. usually a constant stream of bad decisions over many years are the cause for poverty. choosing to not get educated, get pregnant, join a gang, don't get a job, don't get vocational training, taking drugs, etc. are all good examples. our lives don't just happen to us, but our actions determine what our lives look like.
Once upon a time anyways. Today; those characteristics are subsidized way,way,way beyond being productive/earning. Any single woman with a sketch of self-interest learned a long time ago that being productive paid-less than looting the public. That continued "learning" of the reality of today's USA will be the very Conquer and Consume of the USA... Socialism DOESN'T WORK!
...because Guns don't make sh*t (not even the almighty Gov-Guns).
Being poor is expensive. Seriously. If you don't have a functional kitchen then you have to eat out all the time. That's fucking expensive. Got a washer and dryer? No? Laundromats are expensive. Sales tax eats up a good chunk of your income if you spend most of it.
And then housing is made extra expensive with codes and zoning. Cash for Clunkers did permanent damage to the used car market.
As the wise man Ringo Starr once eloquently said "Everything government touches turns to shit."
Why don't you do some arithmetical research and compare laundromat costs vs the capital cost of buying a washer and dryer and the space for them, and the operational cost of repairs and water and electricity?
For instance, a quick google shows washer and dryer sets costing $1000-$1500 at Best Buy. A quick estimate is that even if you stack them, they require 50-100 square feet, 10% of an apartment, or $100-$200/month depending on where you live. Another quick google says the electrical cost of a washer is $10/year and an electrical dryer is $100/year.
If you do two loads a week at a commercial laundromat, that is $4-$8 per week, $200-$400 per year.
If you own your own, the rent alone for the increased space is $1200-$2400 a year. That's not counting purchase price, maintenance, or utility bills.
Case dismissed. Having your own laundry appliances is for convenience, not cost.
>>two loads a week
(sorry) your mom says that's not enough
You should recheck your own math. First two loads of laundry a week is optimistic and certainly not true for a family. Second a typical washer/dryer is good for about ten years so for the individual doing laundry using the apartment's machines that about $2000 to $4000 dollars for the life of a machine they could buy.
Sarcasmic point is good. Having capital for initial purchases can save people money. This option is often denied to the poor. I bought some aspirins this morning. The store offered a buy one get the second at half price. It is no problem for me to buy two, so I did. A larger initial purchase but a long-term savings. A person with limited funds will not get that discount.
A person with limited funds will not get that discount.
Not only that, but they might simply not have a place to put it.
Yes, and I accounted for that -- more space means higher rent.
Show your work or shut up.
You're missing the point. We're talking about percentage of income. When you own your machines you already spent that. So as a percentage of income the laundry costs less.
Income pays rent. Less rent means less income needed.
What else can I correct for you?
"this option is often denied to the poor", not true. they can't do it because of their own life situation and bad decisions. it isn't denied to them -- they can can have it with the cash.
"option is often denied to the poor" Sorry, who denied them that option? "You're poor. I won't let you have that."
Show me where my math is wrong. I showed my work, now it's your turn to do more than make assertions.
I never walked into a laundromat with less than two rolls of quarters. I don't know where your four to eight bucks a week comes from.
Yes you do, I said so -- google.
Save up your laundry for a week and take it to the laundromat.
Don't take your detergent. You're buying from the vending machines. Tally up the cost in dollars and in time you could have spent doing something else.
Then get back to me on which is more expensive.
Are you incapable of taking detergent with you? I always did.
How much is a roll of quarters? $2-$4 per load is 8-16 quarters per load.
What else can I calculate for you?
One of my neighbors pays the laundromat by the pound. They drop off dirty clothes and pick them back up clean and folded. The cost is not cheap, but there’s the time that’s freed up.
It works for their priorities.
Great. Now show your work. What was the cost? What was the time saved?
What else can I correct for you? You are full of bullshit today, more than usual.
So in your example they paid for convenience.
One could get functional appliances for a few hundred dollars on Craigs List or at a used appliance store. People can scoot around those bulky things. I think your premises are grossly inflated.
Especially when the obvious point is a percentage of income, not sunken capital costs. Poor people don't have those. Are you a stupid person trying to be clever, or a smart person saying something stupid?
Show me where my arithmetic is wrong. Account for reduced life and increased costs of your cheaper used appliances.
Show your work.
I've done both. Laundromats cost more than you say. Your own machines last for years. They pay for themselves over time. Not everyone buys top of the line and has a dedicated room.
I think your assumptions are inflated.
No, you have shown no work whatsoever. I got prices from Best Buy and Google, which I listed. You make up "could" prices from Craigslist.
Show your work.
In the arena of ideas smart people battle ignorance, while stupid people battle people.
Which do you battle?
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Ahhh, being a master baiter. Thanks for the warning. Getting you excited is not my idea of a good time.
I don't even consider it particularly more convenient. When I do my laundry at the laundromat I can parallelize the process far more effectively than at home, given that I'd only have one washing machine (of smaller capacity) and one dryer (also of smaller capacity). When I do it at the laundromat, I only spend 2 hours doing it, instead of all day. I think my bill probably comes in right around the $300 / year mark.
As for the point made below that a washer and dryer set likely lasts 10 years, given how fancy they are now, I'm not sure that's true. And if we ever get saddled with regulations about them like Europe has, the time savings will be significantly better. Doing a single load of laundry at my friend's place in Berlin takes several hours, all by itself. "Energy efficiency" is apparently antithetical to time efficiency.
I have never had a laundry/utility room that was larger than 30 sf.
Convenience is more than just convenience. Taking two hours a day to go to a laundromat and sit there policing your laundry adds up. Time is money.
And the space for the washer/dryer is not 10% of the house area, because you're not creating a home addition for the washer/dryer. You're taking away space that is already there (dedicated space, btw). Without the washer/dryer, you just have another closet.
And then the State would have had less money to redistribute to poor people. Is that really what you want? Why do you hate poor people?
""Governments are not so good about customizing programming and figuring out....." anything?
So, it took this long to figure out that the "War on Poverty" might be even a bigger bust than the "War on Drugs?"
[WE] Gov-Gangster-Guns out compulsively robbing the banks might cause poverty? No..... Who could've ever guessed that. /s
It's funny how something so well established millions of years ago gets compulsively questioned in a supposedly modern 'brilliant' society. Watch out for the *criminals* propaganda, "but,but,but; I was 'poorer' than that 'icky' productive person.." One of the many lists of excuses that WAS repeated endlessly inside prison walls by the criminal mentality but is now repeated by the government itself. The #1 "armed" criminal gang. [WE] mob RULES democracy is a gangland system; it HAS to have laws of principles (US Constitution) to keep it in check.
The most pervasive and consistent cause of poverty, violent crime, property crime and failing public schools in America is fatherless children.
But of course, anyone who points out this fact is now considered (and falsely accused of being a) racist by left wing woke Democrats and their media propagandists.
It is almost as if you're saying that COVID leaked out of the Wuhan Institute of Virology? You know, that place a few hundred yards from the pangolins and bats in the wet market, that has a history of significant safety violations?
But then I suppose Occam's Razor is just white supremacy, too.
I suppose Occam’s Razor is just white supremacy, too.
Yes, and sexist too.
What. Supplying every woman with a ?free? Gov-Daddy isn’t good enough ???? /s
Yet another ill-effect of socialism.
I have an idea. Let’s make abortion illegal and the morning after pill difficult to get. Let’s make sure public high schools don’t mention birth control in health classes.
‘The Red State Plan to Increase the number of Fatherless Children’
Anti-government cranks are among my favorite culture war casualties.
Carry on, clingers. So far as your betters permit. Not a step beyond.
(You get to whine about it as much as you like, of course. Until replacement.)
Curl up and die, shithead.
You....
A Gangland-Government of criminals is the only government.
A Government who's purpose is to ensure Liberty and Justice is Anti-Government.
UR sick in the head.
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I wouldn’t mind seeing Judge Barrett confirmed, if only because I believe it would precipitate the installation of four new, better justices during the first half of 2021. - Rev. Arthur "Didn't Learn Much at Harvard Law" Kirkland, October 2, 2020
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That...was one hell of a cite, Sandra. Whoa.
Such a good slave.
Doubtful. That'd imply he was actually useful for something.
Fuck off and die, asshole bigot.
Might be?
As part of a new report released Monday, a survey of more than 1,000 low-income Pennsylvanians found that taxes are often a major barrier to economic security—ranking ahead of more commonly discussed problems such as credit card debt and student loans.
I'm a little surprised that they would rank taxes at #1, but I'm not surprised that they would rank [anything] above student loans and credit card debt.
If these were truly low-income people then student loans and credit card debt would be something they probably wouldn't have much contact with.
Taxes aren't the only barrier. The hidden cost is that high taxes also eliminate job growth. My former employer (HQ in Penna.) is subject to Penna.'s high state corporate income tax of almost 10%. So, a conscious effort was made, several decades ago, to expand in Texas and Okla., not in Penna. About 30 good paying jobs are now missing from Penna.
Pennsylvania has increased spending on social welfare programs over the past few decades, but the poverty rate in the state has remained stubbornly flat
I keep smacking myself in the head with this hammer, but my car still won't start. I guess I need to smack harder and faster.
My solution: 20% Flat tax with a large standard deduction. $50,000 standard deduction, no other deductions or credits. (Adjust numbers as needed. 20% may be too low, 50k may be too high).
So no one pays any taxes on their first 50,000, but billionaires still pay 20% on everything above that.
If we're going to help the poor, then don't tax them. If we want the rich to pay their fair share, don't give them all those loopholes.
The only excuse to needing a GUN (Gov-Gun) to help the “poor” is to teach them to be armed criminals. [WE] monopoly of Guns can't help people because GUNS don't make sh*t.
… And endlessly playing manipulated math games isn’t an excuse to pretend that common-sense doesn't exist.
Their only 'logical' asset to humanity is to ensure every person Individual Liberty and Justice for all. "Helping the poor" has to be voluntary because if it isn't then it is "armed-theft". The very backbone of socialism and its perfect fail rate lies in it being criminal (A Gangland Gun-Economy) of conquer and consume.
"When the Government Makes Poverty Worse"
When doesn't it?
When it's NOT working for criminals. 🙂
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there is one YUUUUGE form of gummit meddling that causes many to be far more poor than they otherwise would be.
two tales I know of personally:
One comes from a Seattle neightbourhood, Northgate area west of I 5 and north of Lake Union. Older area, many very long term (as in multiple decades) residents, not wealthy but more than comfortable. Nice well kept older homes on larger lots. Older gent noticed a young man hanging about, chatted him up, turns out he's homeless and hungry. Invited him into his home, fed him, he departed and all was well. Saw him again a few days later, invited him in for a meal, the guy mentioned that it seemed like he (resident) could use a bit of he,p in the yard. Yes I do. Bum allowed as to how he'd be happy to help out once in a while. He'd doit out of ratitude for the food he so badly needed. So he came round and did what he saw needed doing. He eventually was allowed to use a spare bedroom in the home. After about three months he moved on, Resident figured that was the end of it. Three months the Dep
artment of LABOR and Industries comes knocking up the old gent's door. "yu had a young man working here for you some monthatback? Yes mI did, he did some random yardwork once in a while. Did you log his hours, and keep track of what you paid him? Well, no he had volunteered to do the chores in gratidtude for my kindness to him. I never paud him any money, Oh I tossed him a twenty once in a while...
OK by your own admission you are in violation of Washington's labour laws. You had him do work for you and did not ypay him. That is a crime. Poor old gent nearly lost his home in the legal battle, paid out thosands for lawyers to save him, and still [paid a hefty fine to the greediest government entity in the entire state. the kid? Never heard from again after the government handed him the thousands in "back wages and penalties" he was "owed".
My folks grew up on the Depression of the thirties. People everywhere helped each otehr, chopped wood, invited in for a eal, fixed cars, mended fences and painted houses and prepared food and let sleep inside at night, it went both ways. No one gaveit a second thought. But today's government have ruined all that, I beleive deliberately.
My neighour has forty acres of blueberries. Used to pay folks to come in and pick, as well as let folks pay HIM to pick and take those berries home. He'd pay in cash per pound picked. Lots of folks came round tp pick for chump change. Then that same State department came and had a chat with hm..we hear you are paying people cash for picking your berries. Why yes, many are happy to do that. If they don't want to they don't have to. I pay a fair price based on what they pick. Oh no no no no you CANNOT do that. You MUST pay them an hourlywage, keep track of their earning, sdeduct the workmens comp fees and pay them tous, do withholdong for state and federal taxes... my 70 year old neighbour, raised on that same dirt whicih his grandfather had planted around 1870, stood there and stared.. WHAAAAAAATTT are you TALKING about?
SO now if anyone wants to come and pick berries he lets them pay per pound for all they want, they go home. IF anyone wants to they can pick five or ten pounds whatever, keep half and leave half. No cash changes hands. The berries theytake home are a gift, the berries they leave behind are a gift. So far, the hooligans from the state have ignored it all.
SO when a guy can't find full time work as a full on employee he cannot even earn pocket change by doing anything for anyone else unless they do the full on
become a registered employer" with the state and feds. AND pay far too much to the state goons to leave him alone.
Those withholdings are a form of tax paid to the state. That is also part of the equation guaranteeing lower income accross the board.m
Then when someone DIES get hurt don't expect them to take care of you as the LAW demands. Nope. They will do everything possible to cheat you out of what is rightly yours, and leave you broken up unable to work full time at anything near what you earned before the injury.
I'm with the government and I'm hear to help.
... what can [OUR] Gangster-Guns do for you?
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While I want the John Lewis Voting Rights Bill to restore the Federal Voting Rights Act for African-Americans and Latinos to be passed and I will always speak out against racism as a person of Nonviolence I Andy Freedman am concerned that Black Lives Matter didn’t do enough to condemn the unacceptable,violent rioting that unfortunately occured in American cities like Minneapolis,Minneosota besides Unacceptable CivilLiberties restrictions Covid-19 put many business’s in financial trouble.And these business’s affected by the Covid-19 Pandemic were already unfairly financially and Physically attacked by riots.I do support lowering taxes to help business’s that lost money or were put out of business during the pandemic to be back in business Andy Freedman amf152@Yahoo.Com E-mail address (773)661-9929 Phonenumber February27,2023 February27,2023
I Andy Freedman of course opposed the Covid-19 CivilLiberties Restrictions that brought America close to Martial law,(a Totalitarian nightmare where people couldn’t go anywhere without a mask on their face.) ridiculous loitering laws (which have been fully enforced since 2009 so nonviolent Men who ask Women for dates and hangout like it is 1992,can have the cops called on them and told they are,”Harassers of Women”,the store has adopted a craziness that used to only exist rarely on College campuses.),Joe Biden’s wasteful Infrastructure spending plan,and UnConstitutional Mandatory National Service,where adults who haven’t been drafted by the military or convicted of a crime can be forced to do labor for the state.
While I want the John Lewis Voting Rights Bill to restore the Federal Voting Rights Act for African-Americans and Latinos to be passed and I will always speak out against racism as a person of Nonviolence I Andy Freedman am concerned that Black Lives Matter didn’t do enough to condemn the unacceptable,violent rioting that unfortunately occured in American cities like Minneapolis,Minneosota besides Unacceptable CivilLiberties restrictions Covid-19 put many business’s in financial trouble.And these business’s affected by the Covid-19 Pandemic were already unfairly financially and Physically attacked by riots.I do support lowering taxes to help business’s that lost money or were put out of business during the pandemic to be back in business Andy Freedman amf152@Yahoo.Com E-mail address (773)661-9929 Phonenumber February27,2023 February27,2023 Andy Freedman amf152@Yahoo.Com E-mail address
I Andy Freedman of course opposed the Covid-19 CivilLiberties Restrictions that brought America close to Martial law,(a Totalitarian nightmare where people couldn’t go anywhere without a mask on their face.) ridiculous loitering laws (which have been fully enforced since 2009 so nonviolent Men who ask Women for dates and hangout like it is 1992,can have the cops called on them and told they are,”Harassers of Women”,the store has adopted a craziness that used to only exist rarely on College campuses.),Joe Biden’s wasteful Infrastructure spending plan,and UnConstitutional Mandatory National Service,where adults who haven’t been drafted by the military or convicted of a crime can be forced to do labor for the state.
While I want the John Lewis Voting Rights Bill to restore the Federal Voting Rights Act for African-Americans and Latinos to be passed and I will always speak out against racism as a person of Nonviolence I Andy Freedman am concerned that Black Lives Matter didn’t do enough to condemn the unacceptable,violent rioting that unfortunately occured in American cities like Minneapolis,Minneosota besides Unacceptable CivilLiberties restrictions Covid-19 put many business’s in financial trouble.And these business’s affected by the Covid-19 Pandemic were already unfairly financially and Physically attacked by riots.I do support lowering taxes to help business’s that lost money or were put out of business during the pandemic after the terrible riots that Black Lives Matter didn't do enough to condemn to be back in business Andy Freedman amf152@Yahoo.Com E-mail address (773)661-9929 Phonenumber February27,2023 February27,2023 Andy Freedman amf152@Yahoo.Com E-mail address I do support lowering taxes
I Andy Freedman of course opposed the Covid-19 CivilLiberties Restrictions that brought America close to Martial law,(a Totalitarian nightmare where people couldn’t go anywhere without a mask on their face.) ridiculous loitering laws (which have been fully enforced since 2009 so nonviolent Men who ask Women for dates and hangout like it is 1992,can have the cops called on them and told they are,”Harassers of Women”,the store has adopted a craziness that used to only exist rarely on College campuses.),Joe Biden’s wasteful Infrastructure spending plan,and UnConstitutional Mandatory National Service,where adults who haven’t been drafted by the military or convicted of a crime can be forced to do labor for the state.
While I want the John Lewis Voting Rights Bill to restore the Federal Voting Rights Act for African-Americans and Latinos to be passed and I will always speak out against racism as a person of Nonviolence I Andy Freedman am concerned that Black Lives Matter didn’t do enough to condemn the unacceptable,violent rioting that unfortunately occured in American cities like Minneapolis,Minneosota besides Unacceptable CivilLiberties restrictions Covid-19 put many business’s in financial trouble.And these business’s affected by the Covid-19 Pandemic were already unfairly financially and Physically attacked by riots.I do support lowering taxes to help business’s that lost money or were put out of business during the pandemic after the terrible riots that Black Lives Matter didn’t do enough to condemn to be back in business Andy Freedman amf152@Yahoo.Com E-mail address (773)661-9929 Phonenumber February27,2023 February27,2023 Andy Freedman amf152@Yahoo.Com E-mail address I do support lowering taxes on business's that lost money or went bankrupt during the Covid-19 Pandemic which hit hard since it came after riots