IRS Plans To Raid Workers' Tip Jars
A coming crackdown on $1.6 billion in unreported tips will continue the IRS' long and ugly history of targeting low-income Americans.

When President Joe Biden signed the Inflation Reduction Act last year, the White House touted how the bill's $80 billion in new funding for the IRS would "make our tax code fairer by cracking down on millionaires, billionaires, and corporations that evade their obligations."
It now appears that some of those resources—and some of the coming crackdown on tax evasion—will, quite predictably, be aimed at individuals earning considerably less.
This week, the Treasury Department and IRS announced plans to overhaul existing programs that track tips earned by service sector workers. The new Service Industry Tip Compliance Agreement (SITCA) program will "take advantage of advancements in point-of-sale, time and attendance systems, and electronic payment settlement methods to improve tip reporting compliance," according to the IRS.
Of course, workers who earn more than $20 in monthly tips are already required to report their tips to their employers, and those tips are supposed to be included in tax data sent to the IRS.
But a lot of that money never finds its way into the government's hands. As part of the announcement on Monday, the IRS highlighted a 2018 Treasury Inspector General report that estimated $1.66 billion in tips went unreported during the 2016 tax year.
The IRS' proposal "streamlines both compliance with and enforcement of tip reporting requirements by eliminating employee participation," according to the notice published this week. Translation: We'll make sure the government gets its cut of those tips by simply removing workers from the transaction whenever possible.
That's something that the IRS can do now that so many tips are handled electronically, as secondary transactions after you buy a cup of coffee or pay your bar tab with a credit card. (So here's a tip: Use cash to thank a service worker whenever possible.)
The new SITCA program is not yet in place, and still has to work its way through the complicated federal approval process. The IRS will be collecting comments on the proposal until May 7. It could also be affected by a House-passed bill to rescind the new IRS funding included in last year's Inflation Reduction Act, though that proposal seems unlikely to pass the Democratic-controlled Senate or get Biden's signature.
That the IRS is going to use at least some of its new resources to go after workers' tips shouldn't come as too much of a surprise—despite all of the promises from Biden and top IRS officials about how no one earning less than $400,000 would be targeted. As Reason's Liz Wolfe reported in January, low-income taxpayers have always been the ones most likely to get hassled by IRS audits. In fact, during 2022, low-income wage-earners who qualified for the earned income tax credit were five times more likely to be audited than any other taxpayers, according to a report by Syracuse University's Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse.
It also fits snugly within the Biden administration's plans for a "comprehensive financial account reporting regime" that the Treasury Department outlined in 2021 with a promise to significantly increase the cost of tax evasion.
As far as the IRS' incentives go, targeting the working poor makes perfect sense. Wealthier Americans have the resources to fight back against an audit—but there might be $1.6 billion in unreported tips out there, and most of that was probably collected by people who don't have an accountant on retainer.
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We in the commentariat tried to warn you. We tried to let you know that they were coming for the working class and the middle class, but you failed to take heed and failed to listen. There was only one reason to hire 87,000 new IRS agents, and it wasn’t to go after Governor Pritzker’s offshore accounts.
They won't even break even on the enforcement cost. This is just about punishment and control, not revenue.
Maybe the IRS agents could start accepting tips!
My tip to any IRS agent would be "Go die in a fire."
They said the 87,000 agents would not only pay their own way, but help to reduce the deficit. Not sure why people thought they could do that without sucking a little more blood from their host (us).
The first thing to recognize is that the statement that they will hire 87,000 new "agents" that would be doing audits or other enforcement is a lie. Of the roughly 80,000 current IRS employees, around 50,000 will be eligible for retirement in the next several years. Enforcement staff had also been reduced by about a third between 2010 and 2018 due to sequestration and other budget cuts Republicans insisted on. Even what positions will be completely new, as those jobs are added over a 10 year span, they certainly won't all be in enforcement, as the IRS has large projects needed to update its obsolete IT infrastructure, improve service to taxpayers, and many other reforms that everyone should agree are necessary.
(On the topic of IT upgrades, it certainly doesn't make any sense to have basically two private companies dominating electronic filing of returns (where they constantly try and upsell you out of doing it for free), when the IRS could set that up themselves. Only those two companies have lobbied hard to make the IRS promise not to do that.)
But sure, keep accepting the narrative from the GOP and right-wing pundits that it is all about sucking your money right out of your hand.
Talking points for your totalitarian masters parroted perfectly, Comrade! Your Rubles are waiting for you in the usual place!
Hilarious!
I think you make good points. I agree that as a normal course of business the IRS, as it grows in complexity and falls ever behind in relative competence, will find itself in need of replacement and new employees. The words “agents” and articles about going after millionaires or waitresses are all political theater that everyone should despise - that’s the problem. Where you go off the rails is to see this reporting as purely in support of “the GOP and right-wing pundits.” No, both parties suck. Both parties mishandle stuff like this.
It would be helpful if everyone could see the hypocrisy in defending their favorite incompetent and politically motivated party. The accurate parts of your comment are invalidated by your obvious political bias - get rid of that, and I’m with you.
They lie. Always.
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It always was. Wage taxes were never about anything other than an excuse to demand every citizen submit detailed personal information each year without the pesky need of individual warrants.
ARMED agents.
Just the tip.
Of course the IRS just wants to put the tip in. Just like the average horny 16 y/o boy on a date. And, of course, they will be as circumspect about not pushing further against the fragile $400,000 membrane limit as our 16 y/o Lothario would be, too, nor would they "spill" anything that might cause problems later.
And so you should cooperate, while you try to figure out which transitive active verb you are on the receiving end of.
Not liking "pooled" tips, I have long given whatever tip I feel is merited or deserved directly, discreetly, to my server in folded bills. If he/she is foolish enough to share it with others or pay taxes on it - well, that's up to them. What verb was it you finally settled on?
In a story about the sky caps at SFO a few years back, many claimed to be making $150,000/year in tips.
My daughter was paying an illegal $25/hr plus paid time off for child care in the city not that long ago. Demanded to be in cash of course. All her professional freinds were doing it.
I did income taxes for a living long ago. And I can honestly say that this idea that the cash under the table economy is miniscule is terribly misguided. While the tips that the barista at Starbucks gets may not amount to much, there are plenty of others making bank by avoiding all of the income taxes on their earnings in the cash economy.
Besides, Libertarians are always saying that, although they want smaller government and less laws, that the rule of law was sacrosanct.
I'd guess that a lot of those folks probably agree with the statement that "everyone needs to pay their fair share" so I have to admit to limited sympathy.
‘Fair share’ is a weasel term. It’s subjective, and never really defined by the people constantly shrieking it. Who are always supported by people who will never pay their ‘fair share’. Which is by design.
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Agreed. Its code speak for raiding the rich and appeals to emotion. If everyone paying their "fair share" was genuine, then we would all pay a flat amount that was commensurate with the level of representation we receive, which theoretically should be the same for every single citizen. The current situation implies that the more money you make, the more representation you are entitled to.
Have you ever heard a politician actually set a figure to what would be a "fair share"?
"One for you 19 for me"
My fair share of “income taxes” is zero. The 16th Amendment was never properly ratified.
42 states ratified it. Stop whining.
Just enforcing the law as written. Those tips were supposed to be declared already. They didn't want anyone to get away with being a tax cheat, so pony up.
We have also warned them multiple times that all this fever dream mega spending that the dems want (universal healthcare, parental leave, green new deal) will cost the fucking middle class. Its not rocket science, but unfortunately people are too dumb to put 2+2 together.
We have the most progressive tax system in the world. The top few percent are already paying the bill for everyone else, certainly the top quartile is paying the majority of the tax bill. Pretending that the unicorn fairy of 'tax the rich!' is going to solve this has always been a blatant lie.
You know what all those countries with free everything have in common? Their middle class all pays a lot more in taxes than Americans do.
They have been running a bait and switch for a long time, that can easily be seen through if you quickly glance at the numbers. The revenue they estimate to get from taxing the rich is never even close to paying for what the programs will cost. Often its 25% or less.
The very simple fact is the rich are propping up the country, and if they want to give away more free goodies, the middle class is actually going to have to feel a lot of pain to make it happen. But we live in a post-truth society so instead of being honest and telling people "you can have X, but its going to cost you Y", they lie and say "you SHOULD have X for free, and we will make it happen by stealing Y from the rich" when they know full well its never going to happen.
Its always been a bait and switch to fuck over the middle class. Wait and see
You should spend some time on Quora. Plenty of Europeans and others, who claim that they aren't paying as much as Americans do in taxes but still get free shit from their government. They even trot out weak, mathematical analysis to "prove" it.
Yep. It will cost more in enforcement than the government can hope to collect. Wage taxes are slavery, as our founders told us, and the only reason government collects them is as an excuse to demand personal information forbidden them without individual warrants. The IRS is the world’s largest intelligence agency. It’s target is not threats to America, but us (perceived threats to Washington’s power).
Time to abolish wage taxes completely.
I guess wait staff have been defying the DNC agenda.
Statistically speaking, at least some of them are Republicans, and even a few (gasp) Libertarians, so might as well punish all of them.
No, they're mostly Dems, but a lot of them don't bother to vote.
i certainly hope they punish the glibertarians
For what? Standing in the way of your totalitarian fantasies?
(So here's a tip: Use cash to thank a service worker whenever possible.)
That way you can be sure they will get only the minimum social security payout when (if) they retire.
Wait, what, the service workers are NOT capable of SAVING some of their earnings for themselves, for later use, WITHOUT the "assistance" of overpaid Government Almighty pubic servants?
"This one's for you, nineteen for me, because I'm the (Social Security) TAX MAN!"
They can also report cash tips if they so choose.
Which will be the same as the maximum Social Security payout when they retire: 0.
It runs out of money within the next 10 to 12 years anyway so what's the fuckin' difference.
They are free to declare their cash tips if they are concerned about that.
The administration is incentivizing businesses to regulate and inform on their employees. That’s disgusting.
Better we get rid of the democrats.
That's been going on for 110 years.
Social Security will be gone soon anyway, replaced by a means-tested welfare program for the elderly.
Hey, that's going to depend on how many old people die from medication shortages after Biden "reforms" drug pricing. If they kill enough of them, Social Security might be solvent for quite a while longer!
They might also have more "pandemics" up their sleeve.
who is "they"?
The people who created the "COVID 19" pandemic.
Oh, that's what I thought the WooFlew was supposed to be here to do. Sorry my baddd.....
Maybe Mike Pence will offer you a cabinet post. When he has to sell his furniture for food.
That would only happen if the chose to break the law and commit tax evasion by failing to report their cash tips.
Hey didjya miss the quiet admission that Socia; inSecurity will be broke in 13 years? I am far smarter than any fifty Eye Are Ess Age grunts when it comes to managing MY money (what little I ave remaining these days, thanks Unka Joey) so thanks all the same I'll take that money that's mine right here in my grubby little paw. I guarantee I'll see a far bigger increase than their Sis Dumb will ever return.
I always do, even when I pay by card.
Interesting you should say that.
I'm 66, retired and living off my retirement savings mostly. But receiving a nice SS check each month...until it goes bust.
In the meantime, I have more than a few acquaintances, who are also retired and crying about their "fixed income" and rather limited SS income all the time. They are struggling financially.
But, I have no sympathy for them. They worked for cash under the table for most of their lives. Without thinking about unemployment insurance, worker's comp or social security benefits. Now, the piper's called his due and they're old and can't do anything about it.
They should quit their fucking whining and accept responsibility for what they did to themselves. Instead, they're just rent seekers...and they love to bash "rich people" like me.
In many cases, I didn't make nearly as much as they did with their little schemes.
Fair share indeed.
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hey somebody has to pay for the student loan forgiveness.
Hey, and don't forget all those starving poor college professors and even more so, ALL of those poor administrators of wokeness!!! Won't someone PLEASE think of all the administrators!??!?
can't remember declaring one dime of tip money but maybe it was an automatic percentage or something. I certainly wouldn't have declared any on purpose
When I worked as a server the employer would usually take care of it. They'd declare enough gratuity so that the taxes ate up the hourly wage and paychecks ended up being zero. IIRC it amounted to around ten percent of sales.
>>paychecks ended up being zero
sounds right. we we coming out way ahead I remember that.
When I got my first job out of college I thought great, I'll be making more money with this salary. I was wrong.
After paying taxes on all my income, then deductions for things like insurance and 401K, my take home pay was less than I made working three days a week as a waiter. Of course as a waiter I had no health insurance, no vacation, no paid leave, and an unpredictable schedule. Not all compensation is monetary.
Don't forget all the drugs.
definitely didn't pay taxes on those sales.
At my restaurant, it was 7%. 8% at most. Gave you a zero dollar check which was more convenient than dealing with a check for $10 or $12.
If they pay taxes on all of their tips, the hourly wage (half minimum for those who don’t know) won’t cover it. So they’ll end up owing money at the end of the year. Millions of servers owing at the end of the year would look bad. Maybe that’s why they’re pushing for servers to be paid the full minimum. To cover the taxes after being forced to declare all their tips.
Thinking about it, this would effectively double the revenue obtained from servers. No wonder the IRS wants to do this. That’s not peanuts.
Probably put a lot of restaurants out of business too. From what I've gathered talking to some restaurant owners I know the considerable price increases most places have implemented in the past couple of years are still well below the increase in their food costs. This would force them to raise prices even more, or really cut back on portion size or quality.
Doing away with tips would result is a small increase in prices, and a huge decrease in the quality of service.
If they pay taxes on all of their tips, the hourly wage (half minimum for those who don’t know) won’t cover it.
Out here in Cali, the MW is $16.50, even for tipped employees. The menu prices are high, so I guess I don't mind too much.
BUT! They still list an 18%~28% "suggested tip" on the bill. Screw that. They want it both ways out here.
And why the hell do they expect me to pay more for "service" if order a steak instead of sandwich? The people doing the cooking don't even get any of it!
/Rant
If they're paid minimum wage instead of the service wage...I would not tip one damned penny.
You're no different than a grocery store cashier at that point.
Used to be that IRS would figure out the average tip and base your tax on that. So if you didn't make enough tips you still paid taxes on it.
If the IRS believes tip income is being underreported, they'll audit the employer's credit card receipts, come up with an average rate of tipping and extrapolate that across all the employees. They'll then make adjustments to the individual employee's returns if they are reporting less than the inferred amount.
I kid you not.
Biden’s IRS wants to give a lot more than just the tip.
He's gonna send his old pal Corn Pop over and he's gonna go balls deep.
The + IRS = Theirs
"$1.6 billion in unreported tips"
Meanwhile Reason's silver spoon billionaire sugar daddy is up between $11,000,000,000 and $12,000,000,000 since Biden took over.
Weird, right?! It's like Democrats campaign on one economic message, and when in power, govern as if their real base consists of billionaires.
#OBLsFirstLaw
How can they say how munch is involved if they are not reported?
Just another wild ass guess used by socialists to justify taking over your life?
Since the democrats are so concerned with the working class, why not take the 'missing' tax revenue out of their campaign funds?
that number is about as valid as the "400 million tonnes of carbon dioxide "emitted" into the atmosphere by cars and trucks burning petroleum fuels". then they go on a whinge over slower plant growth rates, precisely the RESULT of lower carbon dioxide in the air. Silly peeple flunked fourth grade science. No wonder they don't want to "follow" that science.
Because that would cut into their self tips.
But Sandra, hiring 87,000 (armed wtf?) IRS agents was all to ensure Mr. Koch pays His Fair Share. If only those dastardly Republicans weren't trying to stop it.
The unintended consequence of taxing tips and forcing employers to pay tipped employees a "living wage" will be to eliminate tipped jobs entirely. Then we can be more like Europe with surly servers who don't give a crap about their customers.
That's the objective. Once tipped positions are eliminated the employees can be unionized. This isn't about taxes. It's the same with the freelance economy. It is all about unionizing and collecting those dues.
Of which the dues get laundered into campaign contributions for the Democratic Party.
What makes you think it's unintended? They want to eliminate tipped jobs because the use of cash allows for unreported income.
The up side of that is that they don't give a crap if you sit at their table all night talking.
True.
The unintended consequence of taxing tips and forcing employers to pay tipped employees a “living wage” will be to eliminate tipped jobs entirely. Then we can be more like Europe with surly servers who don’t give a crap about their customers.
tips have always been taxed. And now that I haven't carried cash since *checks notes* 1997, pretty much 100% of my tips have been taxed because they're on the receipt.
tips have always been taxed.
Really? You're going all pedant? Yes tips are taxed. But undeclared tips are not taxed. I thought that was understood.
I’m not being pedantic at all. Undeclared tips are a form of income, which is taxable. Hell, a friend of mine who was a waiter in 1990 once bitched to me that if the IRS decided to audit you, and you were a waiter, they could simply come up with an arbitrary # which represented what the agent thought a likely reasonable figure for your “undeclared tip income” and BOOM, you were on the hook for the taxes.
If what you meant by "undeclared tips are not taxed" you really meant, "undeclared tips that you successfully hide from the IRS are not taxed because they can't tax you for what they don't know exists" then yeah, I agree.
But, but, but....living wage.
"So here's a tip: Use cash to thank a service worker whenever possible."
There's one for Reason's "Crime Squad" video series. Solicitation of or accessory to tax evasion.
lol Got Him!
I've been tipping in cash for a long time.
Not only is it unreported to theIRS but if there is a shift change you're assured the tip goes to the individual intended and not someone else.
I always tip in cash. If the recipient wants to declare it fine. But I'm not going to be a participant in government theft. But I've recently found out that if the Doordash type of workers don't see the tip on the electronic receipt they assume you're gonna stiff them and give you crappy service. Had a pizza delivered last month in sub freezing temps and the driver left it on the front porch. Never even rang the doorbell. Cash tip sitting there but he/she got nothing. Can't really blame the driver but this is a consequence of of our brave new digital economy. Paper money was always a convenience so people didn't have to carry around gold or silver or some other valuable commodity to buy and sell shit. Another advantage was that every transaction was anonymous. Checks and chits and deposit accounts always left a paper trail. In my lifetime we've gone from a world where I could theoretically trade my dollars for gold or silver to a world where I could trade my dollars for the full faith and credit of the US Treasury to a world where my dollars are a numerical entry on a balance sheet with no guaranteed value at all. Digital currency seemed like a pretty cool alternative to the debasement of your wealth but the reality is that the central bankers are going to force you to use their digital currency in the very near future and that green paper in your wallet won't even be legal tender. Within 10 years you won't be able to leave a cash tip even if you want to. The IRS knows this. These rules are just to prepare us for what's to come.
Doordash was just keeping all the tips for themselves, and paying everyone a (smaller) standard tip.
Tipping in advance is stupid. It's just a shakedown. Like the local entities that have now imposed an automatic gratuity on service industry bills. Saw some of that on receipts in another city this weekend.
I use cash for 90% of all my person-to-person transactions, including food-service folks, the people who take care of my yard, even some contractors. All in small bills, of course 🙂
The IRS probably hates me. This is a good thing.
I'm all for tipping in cash (bartenders and waiters) and paying nonrepeat vendors with my card. Repeat vendors who work with me on price get paid in cash.
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Damn waitresses making $400,000/yr in tips and not paying their fair share! Damn them all to hell!
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The people who vote for this deserve what they get. Unfortunately, Americans (non democrats) shouldn’t be punished when they voted correctly.
No one voted for this. It was purely an function of the the executive branch after the election was over. Voters did NOT vote for additional funding for the IRS, let alone vote for changes in IRS collection policies.
I know you want to blame everyone who didn't vote for Trump, but that's fucking bullshit and you know it. It ignores the real problem in government, which is NOT which color flag it is flying at the moment. If the system requires the right Strong Man in charge to work, then we have a fundamentally broken system. Flipping between Ds and Rs every four years is NOT a solution. So stop defending the willing co-conspirators of our authoritarian state.
When you vote for candidates who claim they want to raise taxes, you're voting for candidates that want to raise taxes on you.
YOU voted for it.
The Democrats plans for this were announced long before the midterms.
Fuck you! I've never voted for a Democrat in my life!
Then stop providing cover for them.
No one voted for this. It was purely an function of the the executive branch after the election was over.
I read his website, we knew this was coming.
What party does the executive belong to right now?
Starts with "D" as in "dipshitty", and ends in "rats".
Anyone who voted for Biden, by extension, voted for this. And that isn’t bullshit. Biden and his puppeteers are the kind of people who always pull this shit. Trump was by far the better candidate, and would never have done this. So take some fucking responsibility.
Biden is destroying this country. Hell, we might be facing nuclear annihilation because of him. Something that hasn’t been a concern for 60 years. This is just one small part. So don’t give me any ‘boaf sidez’ bullshit.
But I guess your hatred for Trump outweighs any common sense, or desire for self preservation.
> Trump was by far the better candidate
lmao
Tax evasion is a crime, and we are a nation of laws, not men.
We can’t have hoarders standing in the way of a just distribution of wealth.
> ... we are a nation of laws, not men.
You are misinterpreting what "rule of law" means. It means that we are governed by law rather than men. Our taxes are not subject to the whims of men. So shit like this needs to go through the legislative process. It should not change from day to day according to the which way president thinks the wind is blowing.
This is not law, this is selective and arbitrary enforcement of procedural rules regarding tax collection.
And regardless, a lot of actual legislation doesn't count as "rule of law" either. The term does not mean blind obedience to legislative bullshit.
The law says income will be taxed. Tips are income. We are a nation of laws, not men.
The law, already duly passed, vetted, and implemented long ago, requires that tips be reported as income. Willful failure to report tips constitutes tax evasion.
This type of enforcement is not in line with the principles of our constitutional republic. Nor is any democrat.
Does tipping your server in cash then constitute "conspiracy to evade taxes"? How should we punish such scofflaws?
I consider my tip to my waitress to be a just distribution of wealth. You can just keep you greedy paws off of it.
Explain DACA then.
Cash tips encourage DACA an all those who support illegal immigration so they have a large supply of workers to keep wages down and tell them to get tips because they're tax free.
Did you really think that they hired 87k new agents to go after the ~700 ish billionaires in the US?
Thomas Massie on Twitter: "Notice the scenario in this IRS recruiting program is “taking down a landscape business owner who failed to properly report how he paid for his vehicles,” not “taking down a billionaire who uses the corporate jet for private trips.” https://t.co/QXlHmDCoWb" / Twitter
There's a saying (many variants) "The way you practice is the way you will play."
We've been told by Pres. Biden that the 87,000 new IRS agents will be sent after billionaires not paying their "fair share" (still no one has ever provided a definition for "fair share" that would apply to everyone in concrete terms--the usual mishmash received boils down to "I'd like to pay less, but other people should pay more".)
But the agents in the field are being trained to go after small businessmen who improperly deducted a work vehicle? Or, more specifically, as the video explains "Could not provide a source for the money used to purchase the vehicle". If that's what they're being trained for, that's what they are expected to be doing. See, they weren't being trained to approach a billionaire's megayacht and deal with the private security people and lawyers.
It's a fantasy to think that the new agents will be limited to targeting billionaires, or even millionaires. It's the same reason why all transactions (totaling) over $600 must be tracked and reported. People selling beanie babies on ebay will be reported to the IRS, and can expect to be audited. Those people are probably not millioniares or billionaires. Also, the $600 rules came with increased emphasis on unreported tip earnings. So the IRS will be going after small employers who fail to "Keep [and report] a daily tip record using Form 4070A, Employee’s Daily Record of Tips" and/or fail to "Report all tips on an individual income tax return, Form 4137, Social Security and Medicare Tax on Unreported Tip Income". Wait staff earning cash tips cheat on their taxes to the tune of about $20-30B each year, and the IRS has been unhappy with their ability to go after these people due to lack of resources. 87,000 new agents will certainly give them some new resources.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for going after tax cheats big or small. The EITC program is one glaring example of an area where enforcment should be better. Where the government *knows* that about 25% of all EITC payments are made incorrectly, either through "honest" errors or through outright fraud cost about $20B each year. And that's down markedly from about 1/3 of all such claims being wrongfully paid after the IRS began requiring an SSN for each child claimed (a rule that was branded "racist" when it was originally put in place). And if a single mom who works a double shift at some diner doesn't think to report her cash tips to the IRS, well, she should know better and will deserve it when the armed agents kick in her door.
I also am pretty sure that millionaires and billionaires have lawyers and tax specialists employed to make sure that they employ every legal strategy available in order to reduce their tax bills to the minimum required by law (or as close to it as they can come), and that most of the time, auditing them just enriches the lawyers. But in those cases, another saying comes to bear "the process is the punishment", because I also believe that agents will 100% go after people that they know haven't done anything wrong.
Fail:
As you said, those millionaires and billionaires employ LEGAL strategies.
Those service workers and their complacent employers are employing ILLEGAL strategies.
If you have a problem with the former, you should focus your concerns on the tax laws that congress writes. Not base it on a dislike of those who have more than you do.
By the way, contrary to popular misconception, there is essentially no legal way to avoid income taxes all together. But, you can defer them. Up until death in many cases. Or, you can avoid them on a part of your income or wealth, by charitably gifting away your income and assets.
What did the leper say to the prostitute?
Facts of life:
The rich have enough money to hide their money (legally).
The poor don't have any money.
So taxes will always fall mostly on the working poor and middle classes. If you work for a living you will be targeted for the bulk of taxation. Don't believe the lies Elizabeth Warren tells you.
Here's another fact:
Businesses don't pay taxes. Taxes are just an expense that, like all expenses, is shifted to employees and customers in the from of lower wages and higher prices.
That means that business taxes are paid for by workers and consumers, not the rich.
The middle class in the US is undertaxed, compared to the level of government services demanded.
Then we should exterminate the left and make things right in this country. If it were up to me, there would be no federal civil service. And most those jobs in DC would be scattered around the country. There would also be a new Red Scare, at least an order of magnitude greater than the original. Driving the Marxist trash out of the entertainment industry, education, corporations, and anywhere else where they present a threat to our freedom.
We are in the middle of a cold civil war with Marxist democrats. Most peol,e are just too ignorant to see it.
American rights > democrat lives
No, we're not in the middle. It's over, and we've lost.
If we've lost, then why do they need so much propaganda through the media and fortification through the polls?
If we haven't lost, how do you think they get away with that?
It’s barely begun.
> American rights > democrat lives
you are an insane person.
"The rich have enough money to hide their money"
Prove it!
These sophomoric attacks on "the rich" are so un libertarian.
Talk about straw men.
the opening scene from Reservoir Dogs should be an obligatory attachment to any story about waitresses
I bet you’re a big Lee Marvin fan.
he's always drunk and surly.
Ha, having worked as a waiter in my younger years, I never agreed with Mr Pink. Although, I do get pissed and start yelling at clouds seeing tip jars on every damn checkout counter whether or not the employees are performing any service other than running a cash register.
Those aren’t enhanced “need a penny” jars? Fuck.
I have to fight the urge to spit my gum in those jars... damned entitled kids these days. (and I'm actually a generous tipper in situations that warrant a tip)
emaw! I bought one of the lavender basketball jerseys because my mom hates them so much. I got her a home-white for her birthday
It's a weird light purple, not that there's really a normal purple.
Even the old (traditional) one comes off as kind of a dark blue on screen - both the jerseys and the paint in the lane.
agreed. the "royal" part of the purple does go blue on tv
Man, I love the lucky lavs! Wish they didn't have to get a one-time-only waiver to wear the two tone uniforms (lavender jersey, purple shorts) like they wore in the Hartman days.
Tang is a miracle worker. Hope he's in Manhattan a long time.
Taking the kids up to watch the BU game next Tuesday. Go Cats!
>> like they wore in the Hartman days.
I keep telling mom they aren't new creations but she doesn't believe me. she's all "hey the ladies' team is on!" lol
>>Taking the kids up to watch the BU game next Tuesday. Go Cats!
love it. go Cats!
On why we shouldn't tip? Agreed. I have become increasingly hostile to tipping.
I overtip the people who should be tipped ... but more because I was them once, as opposed to anyone giving tipworthy service anymore
"As far as the IRS' incentives go, targeting the working poor makes perfect sense. "
I doubt this is true. Advancement for those working at IRS likely goes to those who can collect the most taxes. That means targeting the wealthy. Though granted the poor have the fewest resources to contest the IRS, and it's likely the new technological surveillance equipment mentioned in the article also favors the wealthy over the poor.
Yet study after study has shown that the IRS disproportionately targets less than wealthy people. Why? Because it is easy.
And government advancement through some kind of meritocracy? I take it you've never worked for the government.
I’ll assume meritocracy until you show me that it isn’t.
Ever have a government job? I had one for 6 years. No meritocracy involved usually. Mostly tenure and favorites. Need a cite for that?
With government, the assumption is not meritocratic, the assumption is tenure at the job and no “complaints” in the file for advancement. That’s it.
Why would you ASSUME meritocracy? Should they not demonstrate it is that? You certainly do not see high merit in the performance of government employees.
'And government advancement through some kind of meritocracy? I take it you’ve never worked for the government."
I never worked for the government but I believe you. Haven't the functions of the IRS been farmed out to private contractors at all. It's common for the military and other parts of the government that once relied on civil servants, now in the hands of private bureaucrats. I'm surprised if this isn't the case at all with the IRS which may incentive going after the wealthy.
I will assume so until someone shows me it's not the case. Beats having to look it up.
Assuming that raw numbers are what you are going for it still makes sense to target the poor. A single audit of a wealthy person can take months or years and during that time it might the be only thing certain agents work on, and in the end you still might lose.
Targeting the poor is often just sending a letter to 1000 people who are unable to contest the ruling then docking their tax refund in the following year(s). Less effort for more reliable payoff.
As they say, slow and steady wins the race.
The IRS has offices, literally, inside the headquarters of major corporations. I worked for one. There were two offices in Manhattan headquarters building dedicated to full time IRS use. The IRS was auditing the corporate books full-time.
Again, big corps and "the rich" are just a straw man for rent seekers who want to justify their stance that equality means equality of outcome and not opportunity.
The wealthy tend to have their taxes professionally prepared. The wealthy can try out inventive ways to push the boundaries of the system, but don't seem to, as a class, engage in outright tax fraud and evasion. They can and do make every effort to structure their income to minimize taxes. They can and do structure their income and expenses to maximize deductions. When they are audited, they can and do bring their own tax accountants and lawyers.
It's a lot of work for IRS agents with no guarantee of winning or collecting any "unpaid" taxes.
OTOH, finding people who have claimed bogus dependents on their EITC and Child Tax credits is easy, and easy to win. Can run through a lot of them, too, in the time it takes to pursue one complex audit of one rich person (and there's a high chance the agent loses).
I pay 6 figures in income taxes. I've been audited twice in the last 10 years or so. I won both audits, because I could prove with their own paperwork the IRS's claims were in error. I had paid every cent I owed, and probably more than I owed, because I didn't even try to claim some things I might have claimed but didn't feel was worth the effort or exposure (just pulling all the records was more hassle than the small amount of taxes I could avoid). Each audit took about 6 months to clear.
I'm here to tell you that the process is the punishment. If I had rolled over and written the check to cover the IRS demands--essentially admitting guilt for something I didn't do--they'd have "won". I "won" but faced a lot of anxiety about the whole thing, for months. Which is how they want it.
Desperate act of a dying empire.
almost as sadistic as taking the nicotine out of a $10 pack of cigarettes
Progressives absolutely loathe the concept of tipping. They are certain that it reinforces stereotypes because of who tips best and who tips worst. Furthermore, rewarding people for effort is blasphemy.
The basic unfairness of tipping in the serving community is that the server in a steakhouse gets way more money for the same work as one in a coffee shop.
They take an order, send it to the kitchen, and bring the food to the table.
But a steak dinner can cost over $60 where a burger may only be $15. Then the damn register "suggests" a tip amount which includes the taxes, and the taxes have no impact on what the server did.
Never vote for democrats. (even if Trump win the republican nomination)
While true, there is also an expectation of service that is much higher in a steakhouse than a coffee shop.
If you mess up a $30 steak, people are going to be pissed. But the burger.... meh.
I'm happy to tip well for good service, but putting a coffee in a cup is not really very demanding.
Real estate sales works the same way. % commission rates split between sellers and buyer's brokerages.
Is it really any different to sell a $1M home than a $500m one? (I live in the SF Bay Area if you think those numbers are too high.)
That stereotype absolutely held true in my experience as a bartender for five years. Woe unto those who had to work hip hop night, where average tips for an eight hour shift were $50; on guido night average tips were closer to $300 (this was in the late 90s).
The bar manager understood this dynamic and if you didn't work hip hop night, you weren't scheduled for guido night. Shift pay on hop hop night was $70 from the club, yet on guido night it was something like $2.15 an hour (state minimum wage for hospitality employees).
Hence their focus on a "living wage".
Which I might be inclined to support. As long as all elected officials are willing to cut their pay to the 'living wage" they support for their constituents.
Nazism (National Sozialism) is what made them poor. Nothing more nothing less. And it’ll keep getting worse till people learn a JUST world is more important than your Gov-Gun Armed-Robbery sympathies.
Wait until you hear about the Couch Cushion Patrol (CCP), the elite IRS agent teams trained in search-and-rescue of the loose change you've got laying around. The CCP ain't messing around, they look under your dryer, behind the refrigerator, down the couch cushions, the ashtray in your car.... They don't miss a plugged nickel.
Of course it is predictable. Even I managed to predict it.
Sent a friend who was arguing for the billionaire tax and the 80,000 new agents this in email back in August:
I’m looking forward to seeing waitresses dragged from their places of employment by armed agents for failing to pay taxes on her cash tips. I hope they show on CNN the artist selling caricatures on the boardwalk for $20 cash get hauled away. Holding my breath until I can see the super-couponers who arbitrage their wares on Ebay get their doors kicked in. When the illegal aliens file their fraudulent EITC claims, I hope they are arrested and put under the jail for a few years before they get deported. When small business owners or anyone else cheat on their taxes, they cheat us all, so going after them full-bore is a positive action. If, somehow, they also manage to find some millionaires and billionaires who actually cheated on their taxes, why, that’s a huge bonus too!
I’m just not foolish enough to believe that these new IRS agents (armed or not) will be limited to millionaires and billionaires, no matter what the Administration ‘promises’ and felt that pointing that out was necessary. I also doubt that they will only go after the guilty, because that’s not how he auditing process works–they go after anyone with questionable returns, even if they are honest mistakes. Given the proclivity of law enforcement to be, shall we say, overzealous?, too often when citizens question them, it is inevitable to me that someone will get killed over a math error on their 1040EZ.
I also have to wonder if, given the likelihood of these new agents being Democrats, will they be able to be honest agents or will the temptation to follow Lois Lerner’s example and target their political opposition using the force and power of their offices? It’s happened before, it will probably happen again.
Did Joe Biden respond?
Actually, the IRS is smarter than you're giving them credit for.
They randomly audit a small percentage of returns every year and develop statistical profiles of where they find the most underreporting. They use those stats to target similar returns to call upon for audits.
There is a reason that small businesses are statistically audited more than large. Talk about blatant underreporting.
Income is income is income. It came in? It's income.
This is an excellent opportunity for everyone to agree with me on income taxes and why they should be abolished in favor of a consumption tax.
Get rid of the Universal Basic Income part of it and figure out how to tax imports then maybe. Short of that all your selling is MORE, MORE, MORE communism.
Tips were never supposed to be tax-free. This is hardly an outrage.
Fuck off slaver.
I completely disagree. I am giving something to a good server. That is between me and him (or her as the case may be). End of story.
So, you're not "giving something to a good vendor" when you purchase their wares?
Agree. Most of the comments here disparaging "the rich" and supporting income tax evasion because it's small potatoes, sound a lot more like leftist propaganda than libertarian thought.
OK somebody help me with the math here. The government estimates 1.6 billion in untaxed tips. So assuming these service workers pay income tax at 15% that's 240 million. The employee payroll tax at 7.65% is 122.4 million. And presumably if that income is reported the employer kicks in another 122.4 million. Grand total of lost tax revenue 484.8 million. Of course with even the standard deduction a lot of these people won't end up paying the full 15% income tax but lets assume they will. Correct me if I'm wrong. Meanwhile Covid unemployment fraud is currently estimated at 191 billion. The US taxpayers sent over 50 billion to Ukraine in 2022. We could of course identify government waste and fraud into the trillions with little effort but I'm too lazy and I think I've made my point. The IRS is swatting flies whiles the wolves are eating the baby.
The DOD audit revealed that they were unable to account for assets equivalent to 70 Zumwalt class destroyers (actual class total: 3) or 20,000 Abrams tanks (actual type production: 10,000.)
That's right the DOD *can't find* the equivalent of 20,000 tanks worth of equipment.
But we gotta get those tips!
"Government waste" in terms of defense spending is not the IRS's concern - they don't decide where money is spent except, to some extent, within their own budget. Defense spending is a ballot box issue. Yes, it should be addressed along with all other government waste - but at least defense is an Article I, Section 8 power clearly granted to Congress unlike much federal government spending such as health insurance subsidies.
The COVID fraud is another issue and is being pursued. Unlike the decade after decade evasion of taxes on tips, this was a non-recurring screwup (outside the powers of the federal government, but that's another issue) that occurred in large part due to the government feeling a need to do "something" very quickly without putting safeguards in place. Relatively little of that COVID fraud will be recovered no matter what is done.
One political reason to crack down on tips is so everyone feels the pain of taxes as mandated by law. Many of those benefiting from evading taxes on tips are voters who, if they paid taxes on tips, might have less of a belief in "money trees" that they imagine grow somewhere in Washington D.C. and begin to vote in accordance with their new insight.
So it’s an estimated $1.6 billion in unreported income and about $500 million in evaded taxes per year.
Compare this to the cost of hiring 87,000 additional IRS agents. I don’t know what an IRS agent is paid, but I do know that when you account for desks and computers, the building to house the desks, electricity and heating, and government-job levels of health benefits and pension, any skilled office worker will cost the government at least $100,000 per year. Times 87,000, that’s 8.7 billion – and probably much more. You aren’t going to recoup that from taxes on unreported tips. You aren’t going to find that much in cheating and errors on the Earned Income Credit. And you certainly aren’t going to recoup it by auditing the returns of rich people who hired an accounting firm to do their taxes and pay their lawyers several times as much as the top GS rates.
So this makes no sense as a revenue measure. OTOH, if the intention was to erect ” a multitude of New Offices, and sen[d] hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance”, mission accomplished!
As pointed out elsewhere, the "additional" 87,000 agents is pure hype and propaganda. The majority are essentially replacements for existing agents retiring or leaving the service.
If the comments here are any indication of modern, libertarian thought, I can see why so many on both the left and the right see libertarians as anarchists.
The BLS report from last week estimating that most Starbucks baristas make $7800/wk in tips finally makes sense....
You might be surprised.
Sky caps at SFO with $150,000/year income when tips are included.
If we are to have an income tax, it is axiomatic that all forms of income should be reported. It sounds to me like you are coming out in favor of allowing certain classes of Americans to evade taxation and thereby impose higher taxes on the rest of us.
Maybe the solution is to forbid tipping and require employers to pay their employees a living wage that is fully reported for purposes of taxation.
"require employers to pay their employees a living wage"
No. Employers should pay their employees based on the value the employees bring to the company. If the only skills you bring to the table are not worth a "living wage" then you don't deserve to get paid that.
Pray tell, how do you "forbid" tipping, and what is your proposed penalty for violating the prohibition?
Repeal the 16th!
Do it NOW!!
And the 17th while we're all wishing for ponies.
And, replace it with what?
Slam the D's. Slam the R's. But, you can't deny they're a lot more thoughtful and realistic than you're idea of eliminating income taxes.
You're advocating the same scenario as the defund the police movements. Who you gonna call? Ghost busters?
Although tax laws in the US should be overhauled, the current ones exist and have been put in place via a legal democratic process. I see little reason to be concerned about the IRS enforcing those laws responsibly (the "responsibly" caveat due to those cases where an IRS agent or office has gone after a taxpayer with a vengeance and it turned out the taxpayer had done nothing wrong) against anyone
The major reason wealthy people are generally more challenging to audit is not because they are wealthy but because the tax law is byzantine and unsettled in the case of complex business and investment situations. This leads to matters subject to interpretation in such cases. There is no ambiguity on "tips" though - they absolutely are taxable income and to fail to report them is breaking the law and failing to pay one's fair share.
The IRS is currently not even doing the most cursory of enforcement in some areas. One of these is the "Obamacare" subsidies.
I know multiple people who don't file income taxes because they are low income enough that they don't have enough reportable income to require filing EXCEPT because they took an PPACA subsidy to buy private insurance mostly at the government's expense. They, in fact, should NOT be getting a subsidy and should be on Medicaid (which would be much cheaper for the government) but instead they take the subsidy by "estimating", falsely, that they have just enough income to cross over the Medicaid threshold. They even pay additional to get more "Cadillac" plans because they actually have assets (a loophole in the PPACA but perfectly legal).
The IRS knows they are taking a health insurance subsidy on the exchange and knows they are not filing tax returns as required by anyone who takes a subsidy. It's a simple database query to identify these miscreants and start by mailing them a compliance letter and then, if they don't rectify the situation within a reasonable period of time (such as 120 days), notify them and their insurance company that future subsidies will be withdrawn until they are in compliance (which would require them either to pay the insurance company "full fare" for their policy or put them into Medicaid land where they belong). In fact, the IRS has a program to identify and pursue these miscreants but has suspended it and at least some of the people I know who are doing this are easy to reach (they haven't moved since they were born and are now over 60) yet they haven't seen any enforcement action.
The IRS certainly should pick the low hanging fruit first - enforcing the law and assessing penalties and interest against one taxpayer has a multiplier effect as family members and friends realize they are vulnerable to being caught also so start complying.
Billions will try to come here now since our waiters and waitresses are making over 400,000 dollars a year.
I'm not a fan of taxes and the code should be simpler and there should be less of them. That being said, I recieve a W2 and my taxes are withheld. I dont see why, just because its a "tip" instead of a wage, and just because we have this bizarre system for tipping they ought to be exempt from taxes? And that the status quo, where they arent except but largely dont pay, ought to be maintained?
There is something to the argument that any evasion is good because the end goal is no government, perhaps, but while I'm forced to pay I dont have sympathy for the wait staff. O dont.
And some do quite well!
As employer's have to withhold and report income and FICA and taxes on employee earnings, as well as the employer contribution to FICA and FUTA, non-reporting of tip income is something they can support.
Talk about incentives to cheat.
This is just the tip of the irsberg.
(I thought that up myself)
Give tips in cash, yes. But also pay cash at independent small businesses that just might have the opportunity to not report that sale to the IRS. I'm always happy when I have some hope that the income from my purchase might not be taxed.
That's why I pay my mechanic in cash.
I pay my IRS auditor in cash so he doesn’t have to report the bribe as income.
Smart move.
Why? You prefer a lawless society? This only encourages it.
But, you'll be the first to whine when you have a need and can't get the government service you feel entitled to. After all, it's all those "rich people' who didn't pay enough. Right?
Waiting staff I've known think of themselves as self employed. The wages they receive are barely enough to keep afloat and they rely on tips, over which they have more control in as much as they reflect performance directly.
$1.6B.
That is hilarious.
It is at least $10B.
I get paid over $87 per hour working from home with 2 kids at home. I never thought I’d be able to do it but my best friend earns over 10k a month doing this and she convinced me to try. The potential with t his is endless.
Here’s what I’ve been doing………….>>> http://www.jobsrevenue.com
Yeah, if you make less than $400,000 per year you won't pay a penny more in taxes. Blow it out your hole, Joe.
They're coming to take the pennies off a dead man's eyes. He knew that when he said it, like every other lie he tells on an hourly basis.
If you like your tips, you can keep your tips.
Ok you dickheads at Reason. $ 1.66 billion sounds like a lot but it’s a grain of sand in the federal budget. So what else is going on? The progs in charge want all the little people to know that they are under the very large thumb of government. They hate small businesses, the backbone of the US economy, and this is just another way to beat them up. In the restaurant biz, most of the payroll protection $ went to big chains, not mom and pops. If you weren’t a significant customer of a bank, that money was out before any small outfit had a chance. They want a ruling elite with serfdom.
You guys hated Trump, but he was good for the middle and working classes, you blind asshats.
"small businesses, the backbone of the US economy"
Not true at all. Any reader of Reason should know better.
I love small business as much as the next guy. But in reality, it's the Walmarts of the world that make up the majority of our economic activity.
Some servers who have been interviewed on national TV have claimed to earn as much as $200 or more per day in tips (presumably, this would be at higher-end establishments, not burger and pizza joints), which would be $52,000 per year. As long as there is income and other payroll taxes, why would they think that tips should be exempt or that it would be unfair to be taxed?
The real solution would be to replace income and property taxes with a national sales tax. Fair because everyone pays, easy to administer since only retail business receipts would have to be reported and audited.
Actually, my niece works at a national restaurant chain. She sees $400/night on most nights. From her tables. And brags about it.
But, she does share those tips with the bus boys and cooks. Lest they sabotage her for not doing so. A little extortion goes a long way.
She fails to mention that. Which shows her weak grasp of finances. And why she's waiting tables in the first place.
TLDR;
IRS to punish lowest rungs of economy
Tip in cash you raving elitist.
Relax Boehm, the adults are back in charge after all.
How many people are not reporting this $1.6e9? If it’s a million, then that’s $1600 each, which I might quibble about, but more likely it’s five or ten million people, so a couple hundred bucks each not REPORTED, meaning it’s a few tens of dollars of tax not paid per worker. This is not something that is worth further trashing any minimal remaining respect that one has for government.
Time to focus on the big issues of Socialist Insecurity and Medi(don’t)care. It’s all about how your phrase the issue; “I’m here to guarantee that the poorest among neither starve nor lack medical care” sounds like a much better starting place than “We need to cut entitlements”. (Actually, we do need to cut entitlements, but since politicians are so adept at lying, they should be able to sell entitlement cuts with the legerdemain of focusing on making sure the programs do the little bit they were originally sold as, rather than the expansive free-for-alls that they have become.)
a couple hundred bucks each SHIFT not REPORTED
It's a lot more than anyone wants to admit.
I had plenty of restaurants as tax clients of mine. They reported only five employees on payroll. But anytime I visited their establishment, I could count fifteen employees working.
It's a way of life in that industry. And, many small businesses.
That's something that the IRS can do now that so many tips are handled electronically, as secondary transactions after you buy a cup of coffee or pay your bar tab with a credit card. (So here's a tip: Use cash to thank a service worker whenever possible.)
I see. The IRS plans to make it harder for the little people to cheat and avoid taxes, so the Reason author recommends that we help them cheat and avoid taxes.
What's the goal of this article? To make us upset that it easier and more cost effective for the IRS to focus on tax compliance for the working class so that we'd push our representatives to make the IRS go after the wealthy tax avoiders instead? Somehow, that isn't the impression I get from it. Just from scanning the comments, it seems that most people are getting a "government is inherently bad for trying to make people pay taxes at all and the left is the worst of a bad bunch."
No one should be cheating on their taxes, no matter how much money they make. It is illegal, and immoral, since it just shifts the tax burden to other people. If we don't like particular kinds of taxes, the tax rate, the way tax compliance is enforced, or the whole system, our option is to voice our dislike and vote accordingly.
Of course, the more fundamental problem not discussed in this article at all is why so many workers rely on tips for their pay in the first place. The idea that it encourages better service more than what the managers can do directly is ridiculous. The business still has more than enough incentive to hire and train people that will provide good service without making tipping a thing at all. Tipping culture in America has gotten more and more stupid throughout my lifetime.
"Tipping culture in America has gotten more and more stupid throughout my lifetime."
Yep. Said the same thing when I started seeing tip jars at fast food counters. The worst being tip jars at the drive up window at Starbucks!
But, I still tip. I don't want them to spit in my coffee.
It's just another shake down racket. And crime, organized or otherwise, is so beneficial to society. It encourages us all to be honorable and civil in our dealings with each other. I guess it's just libertarian to the extreme.
The stupidity of the author & most of the posters is astounding. A 1% purchase & sales tax on the stock markets would generate over 450% more revenue that what we currently collect through the IRS.
This system would allow every American & small business owner who earns less than $400K/yr, (98.8% of the country) to be exempt from federal income tax filing.
This is enough money to pay for every social program society needs & then the rich/Corps would be responsible for paying the governmental operations & their world wide military protection.
It wouldn’t matter one bit. There is plenty of revenue, it is wasteful spending which the Congress refuses to address. If we raised taxes 450% they would spend 650% more. You can’t fix any problem if you don’t address the real issue behind the problem.
Where does federal revenue come from? If you lived or worked in the United States in 2022, your tax contributions are likely part of the $4.90 trillion collected in revenue. The federal government also collects revenue from services like admission to national parks and customs duties on foreign imports and exports. The majority of this revenue is used to pay for government activities (employee salaries, infrastructure maintenance), as well as to pay for goods and services provided to United States citizens and businesses.
In FY 2022, the federal government spent $6.27 trillion. Since the government spent more than it collected, the deficit for 2022 was $1.38 trillion. Visit our Spending and Deficit pages for more information on these activities.
A trillion is one million million and has twelve zeroes: 1,000,000,000,000.
People are not stupid, they realize what is going on, instead of enabling the government to more folly like you want they want it brought under control. Remember every cent the government takes is a cent that cannot be saved or spent by a consumer in the economy.
Ah. Once again, tax the rich. Feed the poor. The strawman argument.
You do realize that the stock market provides income and that income is definitely taxed? And that, a 1000% gain in the value of one's investments is still just a paper gain, providing virtually no income or benefit to the holder. But, plenty of risk for a 1,000% loss in the near future.
While true, there is also an expectation of service that is much higher in a steakhouse than a coffee shop.
…but, but, but Dementia Joe said his IRS was going after Billionaires!
John Burchardt
Do you understand that $10+ Trillion the government printed is a tax? Albeit a hidden tax. When the government prints money it devalues the dollars you have and will have by the amount they printed. That money the government gains, and spends, and that is a tax on savings, capital gains, and income. A tax on even the coins in the kids piggy bank. I warned people right here that the covid relief bill would cost them way more than any gain they got from that government check, and we see it now in inflation.
Life is about hard choices. The Covid relief bill did more than simply contribute to higher prices in the market (and it was far from the only driver). It also provided.... Covid relief. If the government had sat by and let businesses shutter and people lose jobs to the tune of a massive depression, you wouldn't be celebrating the pristine market outcome... you'd be blaming the nearest Democrat.
More dollars chasing the same goods and services is really just currency devaluation without calling it that. Government has the power to inflate it's way out of deficits. Paying back today's dollars with future, deflated ones is beneficial to the borrower. It's been done a few times in the last century.
LOL.....$1.6 Billion?????.....that is not even a rounding error in terms of the total budget.
It's a bit flimsy to argue that the government should selectively enforce laws based on your progressive economics (har). The IRS doesn't make tax policy, Congress does. I think taxes should be cut for people struggling to make a living. That should get bipartisan support in Congress and in every state, right? If you want to rejigger things while remaining budget-neutral, simply cut taxes for the poorer quintiles and raise them on the richer ones. Exempt tips if you like while hiking up capital gains taxes.
I wonder what would happen if you put a gun to the head of a libertarian or Republican and told them to choose: either we tax this billionaire by an extra 1% or we behead this waitress. Perhaps there'd be no need to shoot as their head would explode by itself at the moral conundrum.
Is the waitress attractive?
Thank Agent Trump for handing the reins of power over to the progressives in 2018 and after.
If the IRA was interested in tax cheater, then they should turn their focus on the halls of the federal government. How is it at an elected official on their wages enter office as poor or middle class and emerge as members of the top 10%?
Trump may be a terrible person, but he earned his wealth much more legitimately than Biden. Neither should have even been president, but between the two it obvious that Biden is much worse. Trump was just a mediocre president and Biden has a strong position in the competition for the absolute worse president.
The scuttlebutt that both may run in 2024 is appalling. We don't need either of the two old geezers. Their time has passed and we need a younger crew to be elected officials in their seventies and older should be retired, elected officials in their sixties should be planning their exit.
The average age in the house should be younger than the senate, but basically we need more elected officials in their forties. In general, people in their thirties are too immature, but are hitting their stride in their forties. They continue to ride strong in their fifties, but are beginning to check out in their sixties. By their seventies the should have other priorities with grandchildren.
Both Trump and Biden are way, way too old. It either of the two joke political parties present either of these two buffoons, i sincerely hope that the populace rejects and repudiates them.
Wait. So you propose that we elect by age?
Well, what could go wrong?
i didn't even know working billionaires had tip jars!
I have two issues with this article.
"$1.66 billion in tips went unreported during the 2016 tax year.."
There is no way that number is accurate. I would bet $1B in tips goes unreported in the State of Florida alone every year.
Targeting low income. By not reporting tip income whenever possible, they pay a lower effective tax rate, and qualify for more government largess, which I expect most take.
Now if you want to argue this will make any difference in the bloated federal budget, that is another story. They likely will not recoup the amount of money spent tracking it down.
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