Despite His Record, Donald Trump Plans To Run as an Anti-War Republican
A big part of Trump's appeal in 2016 was his forthright opposition to military interventionism. His record in office didn't match the rhetoric.

The 2024 presidential election is still almost two years away, but campaigns are already underway. President Joe Biden is expected to announce his plans for a reelection candidacy soon, and the field of Republicans anxious to unseat him is starting to coalesce.
Former President Donald Trump got a jump on the competition, waiting just a week after his party's unimpressive midterms performance before announcing his intention to run again. Even though he is the only Republican to officially announce, others seem likely to jump in soon: Former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, who later served as Trump's ambassador to the United Nations, will likely announce her own bid next week.
Politico reports that to distinguish himself from potential candidates like Haley or former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Trump will run as "an anti-war dove amongst the hawks." But while a forceful nudge in an anti-war direction would be a welcome development for the party, Trump's record casts doubt on his seriousness.
Trump's reflexive opposition to foreign entanglements was part of his appeal during his 2016 candidacy. At a Republican debate ahead of that year's South Carolina primary, Trump called the Iraq War "a big, fat mistake" and said of its boosters, "They lied. They said there were weapons of mass destruction. There were none, and they knew there were none."
Last week, Sen. J.D. Vance (R–Ohio) got an early endorsement out of the way, throwing his weight behind Trump on the basis that in his first term, "he started no wars despite enormous pressure from his own party and even members of his own administration." In early 2016, when Vance was a private citizen who opposed Trump, he similarly wrote in The New York Times that Trump's message resonated with white working-class voters because "he tells them what no major Republican politician in a decade has said — that the [Iraq War] was a terrible mistake imposed on the country by an incompetent president." A 2017 study would conclude that Trump's anti-interventionist rhetoric was crucial to his victory over Hillary Clinton.
But Trump's record once elected did not reflect the promise of a more constrained foreign policy. Just days into his administration, Trump greenlit a military operation in Yemen that yielded no valuable intelligence but led to the death of Navy Seal Ryan Owens. When pressed on the failure, he blamed his military advisers, shrugging that "they lost Ryan." Weeks later, he launched 59 missiles into Syria after that country's government targeted its civilians with chemical weapons.
Despite promising to bring the troops home, Trump ended no wars in his four years in office. He loosened restrictions on drone strikes, leading to a massive increase in alleged civilian casualties. And in January 2020, he authorized the assassination of Iranian military leader Qassem Soleimani. While the administration initially claimed the strike was necessary to prevent an imminent strike risking "hundreds" of American lives, it later emerged that Trump had been mulling the order for months.
Iran responded by lobbing missiles at a U.S. air base in Iraq and injuring over 100 American soldiers, and Iran-trained militias launched rockets into a U.S. military base in Iraq, killing multiple soldiers. And yet when Congress passed a resolution constraining the president from further military action against Iran without congressional approval, Trump vetoed it.
In fairness, Trump began the process to end the war in Afghanistan by signing the Doha Agreement in February 2020. But that agreement, which called for a gradual drawdown of troops over more than a year, only came at the end of Trump's first term, as he was running for reelection. And it came only after sending thousands more troops to Afghanistan in 2017.
As the 2024 campaign season heats up, an anti-war contingent in the Republican Party that extends beyond just aid to Ukraine would be a great benefit. Unfortunately, if the party's most recent standard-bearer is any indication, that impulse will be in short supply among the candidates.
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Trump as a shitbag because he supports the covid death shots..... ok. Agreed.
Trump as a warmonger compared other presidents.....??? WTF???
I’m drumming my fingers waiting for the DeSantis piece. Where the HELL from s it?!
(And will tomorrow feature any Biden pieces, per chance? Not that I think he’ll do/say anything tonight worthy of criticism/scorn/mockery/snark)
Are you worried Reason is using up too much disk space or server bandwidth?
Considering they've published the same Trump and DeSantis articles about 897 times a piece, I don't think they're breaking the bank on disk space or bandwitch, Episiarch.
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It was LITERALLY more horrific than the April 1975 evacuation of Phnom Penh!
I’m hearing that in Rob Lowe’s upbeat voice as his Park’s and Rec character, Chris Treager.
Oh come on. Trump was responsible for fewer deaths than any president in my lifetime. Give credit where credit is due.
Trump was responsible for fewer deaths than any president in my lifetime. Give credit where credit is due.
^
If we're comparing Trump to Jesus, yes he falls short. If we compare Trump to literally any other president of the last 90 years he's not so bad on this particular front.
I'm not that old.
Maybe he was talking about Biden.
(with the Jesus comment, not the 90 years thing).
Biden is NOT the Messiah—he was just His VP.
Yeah, but they went to high school together.
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Biden, who is only like 3.5 years older than Trump?
Biden, who is literally suffering from terminal senile dementia just like Reagan who you've spent 40 years shit talking for being an old dementia patient while in office, Episiarch?
Ah, yes, this is something important that I have come to realize these past few months: that Pretendant Biden's dementia wouldn't matter so much, if he had been able to appoint competent people to his Cabinet.
Pretendant Biden's failures aren't necessarily the result of his dementia, although that certainly isn't helping. Biden's failures are largely the result of off-the-shelf Democrat Party policy.
While Republican Party policy is by no means perfect -- indeed, it has some serious issues, too -- it is not the disaster that Democrat policy is proving to be at this point!
Amd executed by idiots who have steadily failed upwards. Who in his cabinet has any accomplishments?
Yeah, Trump may not have been perfect (no president is) but he was the first since Carter to not start any new wars (both 1 term presidents - maybe there's a connection there), negotiated the end of the Afghanistan War, got a handful of Muslim countries to sign the Abraham accords. I mean, that's head and shoulders above any other recent president. What parallel universe was Joe Lancaster living in where Trump was some kind of war monger?
But WWIII with Iran!!!!
Yup, Trump was the best of the presidents of my adult lifetime when it came to waging war.
You forget WWIV vs rocket man in NK.
Thank you. This is a one sided hit piece. Leaving out nearly every good thing he did. And funny how these assholes hav e time to run this bullshit while we’re facing down WW3. Which Biden is shoving down the world’s throat like he did to his ten year old daughter.
"the Abraham accords"
Nobody remembers what that is and it didn't change anything. It's literally not worth the paper it was written on. Why do Trump supporters think it was relevant past the signing ceremony?
Don't project your ignorance onto anyone besides yourself, shreek. While you're at it, do the one where you tell us how your chocolate messiah's Iran deal was the most important diplomatic event since the foundation of the United States. Or better yet, just shut your faggot kiddie-diddling pedophile porn-posting cock holster.
So your approach is to pretend I'm someone I'm not and ignore the main point of my post? That seems completely sane.
I said nothing about Obama, nor have I ever extolled the virtues of the Iran nuclear deal.
If you want to act like a sane person, tell me what the Abraham Accords changed. Anything? None of the signatories has done anything differently since it was signed.
If it was such an amazing, significant peace deal there should be some obvious changes, right? So what are they?
Uh huh. It doesn’t mean anything because Trump has the wrong letter after his name.
Still not any evidence that the Abraham Accords mad any difference. You're deflecting because it was a worthless document that changed nothing.
And, as for President Trump's failure to pull out of Afghanistan? I'd much rather we still be in Afghanistan to this day, than to have had to sit through the disaster of a pullout that Pretendant Biden presided over!
I think you're not counting all the deaths from the end of Net Neutrality.
And how many died on the fainting couch from his mean tweets?!
or from the tax cuts.
Now do Biden (D) and Ukraine. Remember Biden? The then senator that voted for invading Iraq and Afghanistan?
Now do literally anyone else running. Trump has the best record on this, and it's not close.
But mean tweets!!! Joe cannot abide mean tweets, now Biden being a worse ass to people is fine, but that's beside the point.
At least Biden isn't being mean to people over Twitter!
/sarc
Remember Biden? The then senator that voted for invading Iraq and Afghanistan?
Also the guy who had troops back in Syria within days of taking office? This article doesn't mention Syria, oddly. I seem to remember a big stink about treasonous Trump treasonously removing the troops that Obama swore never were sent to Syria in the first place, but perhaps I dreamed it.
And about military members lying to him to keep troops in Syria. Oddly not mentioned.
Lancaster had promise when he was an intern. I remember the first article. Now he is Sullum's Little Bitch.
Despite promising to bring the troops home, Trump ended no wars in his four years in office.
Trump did negotiate an end to our role in Afghanistan. Which, of course, Biden fucked up. Lancaster does mention it, but more-or-less just in passing, and merely to slam Trump.
Lancaster does yet another hit piece here. Joe, I have one question for you: what new wars did Trump start in his four years in office?
There was also that whole 'peace among Israel and several Arab neighbors' thing.
Or the 'no new wars' thing.
Remember when the writers at Reason were shitting themselves over how awful Trump was for any troop drawdown or peace proposal. At least the neocons were honest in their arguments against him, this is just disgusting but par for progressive hacks like Joe.
Despite His Record, Donald Trump Plans To Run as an Anti-War Republican
Are you referring to the record of being the first president in my lifetime to not initiate a new military engagement? Who are you proposing as an alternative, then?
Imagine a Reason writer who didn't just lie flat-out to our faces and tell us the shit he was shoveling wasn't chocolate ice-cream.
Joe Lancaster isn't that writer:
"In fairness, Trump began the process to end the war in Afghanistan by signing the Doha Agreement in February 2020. But that agreement, which called for a gradual drawdown of troops over more than a year, only came at the end of Trump's first term, as he was running for reelection."
Joe knows full fucking-well that Democrats and Liz Cheney halted the withdrawal and one from Germany from happening, but still thinks he can lie about it.
House Democrats, Working With Liz Cheney, Restrict Trump’s Planned Withdrawal of Troops From Afghanistan and Germany
"July 2020 - Last night, the House Armed Services Committee voted overwhelmingly in favor of an amendment — jointly sponsored by Democratic Congressman Jason Crow of Colorado and Congresswoman Cheney of Wyoming — prohibiting the expenditure of monies to reduce the number of U.S. troops deployed in Afghanistan below 8,000 without a series of conditions first being met.
The imposed conditions are by no means trivial: for these troop reductions from Afghanistan to be allowed, the Defense Department must be able to certify, among other things, that leaving Afghanistan “will not increase the risk for the expansion of existing or formation of new terrorist safe havens inside Afghanistan” and “will not compromise or otherwise negatively affect the ongoing United States counter terrorism mission against the Islamic State, al Qaeda, and associated forces.”
The Crow/Cheney amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) last night passed by a vote of 45-11. The NDAA was then unanimously approved by the Committee by a vote of 56-0. It authorizes $740.5 billion in military spending — roughly three times more than the world’s second-highest spender, China.
President Trump throughout the year has insisted that the Pentagon present plans for withdrawing all troops from Afghanistan prior to the end of 2020. Last week, reports indicated that “the Trump administration is close to finalizing a decision to withdraw more than 4,000 troops from Afghanistan by the fall.” Trump’s plan “would reduce the number of troops from 8,600 to 4,500 and would be the lowest number since the very earliest days of the war in Afghanistan, which began in 2001.” In February, Trump announced an agreement with the Taliban to end the war completely...
...The Crow/Cheney amendment impeding Trump’s withdrawal plan asserted that “a rapid military drawdown and a lack of United States commitment to the security and stability of Afghanistan would undermine diplomatic efforts for peace” (only the U.S. could malign a troop withdrawal plan after a 19 year-old war as “rapid”). Their amendment also claims that “the current agreement between the United States and the Taliban does not provide for the appropriate protections for vulnerable populations, does not create conditions for the rejection of violence and prevention of terrorist safe havens, and does not represent a realistic diplomatic solution, based on verifiable facts and conditions on the ground, that provides for long-term stability”
The NDAA that was approved last night by the Committee also imposed restrictions on Trump’s plan to withdraw troops from Germany."
Joe Lancaster, you're a deliberate fucking liar and a propagandist.
Sorry Joe, ML is right. This is a pathetic take for anybody, but especially a Libertarian.
They have to try to take out Trumps best libertarian quality of no new wars. That's the only impetus for this piece.
Imagine reading a Reason that wasn’t committed to promoting the fucking ahistorical narrative constructed by the horrible bastard offspring of ShitLibs and Neocons that are employed by our various three-letter hives of authoritarians.
This take came from Lancaster, not a libertarian.
ML, this is why the Reason staff socks here hate you.
It's fair I guess, because I hate them.
And in January 2020, he authorized the assassination of Iranian military leader Qassem Soleimani.
That's austere Muslim cleric Qassem Soleimani, thank you. /WaPo
Remember how Reason told us that was the start of WW3, but somehow a proxy war against Russia itself barely garners condemnation here.
These people have turned Reason into such a sick joke.
But sending billions to Ukraine to fight against Russia, no biggie. Reason has given some criticism, but it's been rather muted.
Especially considering the ongoing escalation and increasing threats from Putin and his surrogates to use nuclear weapons. This makes Reason a de facto proponent of nuclear annihilation.
Once the deal their chocolate messiah signed with Iran to expedite their nuclear program comes to full fruition, maybe then Reason will be able to finally support an all-out regime change war with Iran. For now they have to settle with instigating nuclear war with Russia.
Wait ... only Trump's anti-war record casts doubt on his seriousness?! I can't think of a single part of his record that does NOT cast doubt on his seriousness!
Wait … only Trump’s anti-war record casts doubt on his seriousness?! I can’t think of a single part of his record that does NOT cast doubt on his seriousness!
True that. One might even argue that his anti-war record is one of the least un-serious parts.
He does dislike the administrative state, the disdain the politicians have for their constituents, and made an attempt to deregulate a good chunk of the free markets that reasonmag claims to support. All as a loudmouth and a knucklehead. But, it is know that mean tweets are the most important thing after skin color.
made an attempt to deregulate a good chunk of the free markets that reasonmag claims to support.
He wrote an EO which was excellent but he made absolutely no legislative attempts to get Congress to enact lasting change and oversaw the Heath Industrial Complex's take over of the economy.
Weird take since he reduced the administrative state and actively fought against many of them.
https://www.govexec.com/management/2018/08/these-agencies-have-lost-most-workers-under-trump/150577/
Now he passed laws and advocated for spending. But he also countered with an EO to reduce all departments by 10% his first year. The state didn’t follow his orders and the Impoundment Act blocked most of it. But the reduction was attempted.
As for Free Market.... trade with China is never a free market. China doesn't play by that ideology.
I said his EO was excellent, why cite that back to me?
But the man who signed the Cares Act into law allowing the states the ability of the states to enact lockdowns, gets no pass from me. Fuck him, he sided with the likes of Fauci until it was too late. He allowed the CDC to pull the largest communist land grab in maybe the history of this nation (eviction moratorium).
I cited more than just his EO.
And again, what was the vote total for CARES?
I dont understand why so many here are reluctant to blame congress on votes that are veto proof. Often with declarations of an overpowered executive. Yes. Congress does have a role. When the votes are veto proof you should blame them for that role.
I agree with Fauci. Trump wrongly trusted him. But he isnt exactly firm on science. So he stupidly trusted them for Covid. He did try to bring in other advisors. But his entire cabinet was telling him to trust Fauci. Trump was just ignorant there.
Scott Atlas repeatedly told Trump that the Fauci-Birx-Redfield axis that refused to examine peer-reviewed papers on viruses because they already "knew" what needed to be done. Trump seemed sympathetic to Atlas (who turned out to be right on most issues regarding Covid) but never acted on Atlas' advice.
"the Impoundment Act blocked most of it. But the reduction was attempted."
So he violated the law, which he either didn't know, didn't accept, or knew he couldn't do but knew his supporters would give him credit anyway.. So your choices are between "Trump is ignorant", "Trump doesn't believe in the rule of law" or "Trump is a performative con man". Do you prefer to be a supporter of an idiot, a lawless authoritarian, or a grifter?
Trick question. He's all three.
It's nice to have the adults back in charge so that they can create executive orders illegally forgiving student debt and creating moratoria on evictions nationwide despite a supreme court ruling slapping that policy down only days prior, right shreek?
I oppose student loan forgiveness on multiple levels. I'm not sure why that's relevant to the discussion at hand. I am also opposed to eviction moratoria in general, but that's also not relevant to the discussion. You certainly like substance-free rebuttals, don't you?
Trump is an ignorant blowhard. He is an authoritarian who asserted the supremacy of the Presidency over the legislative. And he has successfully grifted gullible conservatives since he announced his candidacy the first time. The amount of maney that you rubes have put in his pocket is mind-boggling bit, like all bad investors, you keep throwing good money after bad.
Trump was a shitty President who has convinced his supporters that he accomplished things. And with Joe Biden running again and a significant number of his less-zealous supporters getting off the crazy train, our next President will take the authoritarian and politically retributive behavior from his Florida labratory into the White House in 2024. And we will suffer for it as a nation.
The point Celia was trying to make was this: for all his faults, President Trump is by far a better President than Pretendant Biden.
If we're going to criticize President Trump -- and I would certainly agree that his Presidency has a lot to be critical of -- we should at least put it in context of Presidencies that are alternative to him!
Trump was one of the 10 worst Presidents in American history. He's hanging out with Wilson, Jackson, Johnson, Carter, and Nixon. Biden is in the bottom half, but not close to as bad as Trump.
Hallucinate much?
What an idiotic statement.
We would be so much better off with Trump back in office. There is not a single thing that isn’t far worse with Biden and his puppeteers in charge.
For starters, the job market is much better. Biden isn't a good President, but he had a really low bar to clear. Trump was terrible.
I'm not at all convinced that the job market is better under Biden than under Trump. But then, I have a funny view of it, being unemployed in the tech industry, watching as "Oh, some more friends got laid off today!" or "Oh, I got laid off today!" steadily stream in via LinkedIn.
The job market is a joke under Biden. The 500,000 jobs created in January never happened. It was seasonally "adjusted" but used typical layoff data after December which expected 3 million jobs to be lost but only 2.5 million were lost because far fewer seasonal workers were hired for Christmas, therefore there were far fewer people to be laid off.
There are fewer people employed now than pre-pandemic. Look at the labor participation rate.
Also, families were robbed of more than $7000 by Biden's inflation eliminating every dollar of increased income under Trump.
Trump was the luckiest president in history. As bad as he was, he was sandwiched in between the two worst presidents since Nixon. Anyone would look good by comparison.
“It was seasonally “adjusted””
It’s always seasonally adjusted and no assumptions are made about how many or how few people were hired. It’s adjusted based on the number of seasonal workers hired for the holiday season. It’s literally dependent on the increase from previous months, so your “yeah, but” is fantasy.
“There are fewer people employed now than pre-pandemic. Look at the labor participation rate.”
Yet another person who doesn’t understand what the labor participation rate measures. The labor participation rate is the sum of employed and unemployed (the definition of which has remained the same for decades) divided bybthe number of people over 16. Having more people unemployed literally doesn’t change the labor participation rate at all. I don’t know which paleocon site is whipping the LPR, but they are idiots.
“Also, families were robbed of more than $7000 by Biden’s inflation”
Yes, the massive deficit spending (combined with 20 years of free mkney from the Fed) drove up the inflation rate. I’m not sure where the $7000 comes from, but the actual loss of purchasing power would depend on the individual and their income. Someone who makes $20k a year dodn’t lose $7k.
“Trump was the luckiest president in history. As bad as he was, he was sandwiched in between the two worst presidents since Nixon.”
Obama was better than average, Biden is worse than average, and Trump was one of the worst. He accomplished nothing important, ran massive deficits (even before Covid), focused on his own image and things that were incredibly inefficient (like the wall), and is an erratic, ego-driven douche rocket.
The job market is better? Do you read the news? There are massive layoffs all over the board. And it’s escalating.
No, there are massive layoffs in the tech sector, where the free money policy of the Fed led to tech companies overhiring. Now that money actually costs banks to borrow and the overnight interest rate is back to normal levels, that money has dried up. They can't borrow like they used to, so they are cutting costs. Virtually every other sector is desperate fpr workers.
Maybe it's passing the First Step Act. Not serious about sentencing reform. Maybe it's the lowest unemployment rate among Blacks and Hispanics in basically ever. So not serious. Are you an ass, a clown, or an assclown?
Yes.
And yet when Congress passed a resolution constraining the president from further military action against Iran without congressional approval, Trump vetoed it.
...and nothing else happened.
It doesn't matter if nothing actually happened. It only matters if Joe feels it could have happened.
This is why the Reasonistas went all in with Woke on the podcast yesterday. The facts don't matter, it's their own personal truth that matters.
My theory is that Joe is a refugee from a parallel universe where Trump was a massive war monger and really was the second coming of Hitler. That's the only way any of this makes sense.
Unless Biden's handlers send American soldiers to die for Ukraine (and I doubt they're dumb enough to do that) I don't expect foreign policy to be the area in which Dementia Joe is most vulnerable.
Trump's (or any Republican's) best hope is for the economy to get worse so voters are in a "throw the incumbents out" mood.
That was already the voter sentiment for the 2022 elections.
A lot of that is because you're an incredibly stupid cunt with no fucking clue what you're talking about. The first American casualties in Ukraine have already returned home in body bags. In 9 or 10 years when it hits MSDNC I guess you can entertain us all with your latest hot take on why Joe Biden is an unstoppable force in politics and its simply futile for a Republican to do anything other than adopt his entire agenda if they ever hope to win again. Anything to keep denying nationwide election rigging. Jill Biden has swallowed fewer of Joe's loads than you.
Abraham Accords?
I believe the talking point at the time was that Bahrain, the UAE, and whoever else signed them (can't remember off the top of my head) weren't "extremist" Muslim countries or big sponsors of terrorism, therefore it wasn't that big of a deal.
Just don't you dare ask the obvious question: If it was no big deal, then why didn't "Nobel Peace Prize" winner Barack Obama get it done?
Like how the swamp GOP members said cutting taxes was no big deal. Again, Trump pushed it through. The others did not. Same with moving the American embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. The others promised it. Trump got it done.
No, the comeback is that the Abraham accords didn't eliminate all war and fighting in the Middle so therefore they mean nothing.
It's the "it ain't perfect, so it sucks" rebuttal.
It would be the biggest thing in the world if anyone with a ‘D’ after their name did it.
Of all the things you can get after Trump on you picked one of the few things he was actually pretty good for? So strange. I really dont understand the thinking here.
The one area in which his record is indisputably better than the preceding 7 presidential administrations, and they decide to attack that area. I feel like we're not dealing with serious people anymore.
"I feel like we’re not dealing with serious people anymore."
Haha, Reason hasn't been serious for quite some time.
They publish something from Stossel occasionally. He’s a serious libertarian. We need more like that here.
"I really dont understand the thinking here."
Long TDS.
'Progressivism and libertarianism share many of the same ideals' to paraphrase. I don't recall if this was boehm or lancaster, probably boehm, but it explains the thinking.
Gillespie has said this as well as shilling post-modernism. I'm sure others have done the same, but Nick's doing so sticks out to me
This was the area where Trump was on point. Lots of failings elsewhere, but with war and foreign affairs, he was very good.
Ironically the areas Hillary attacked him the most on during the campaign. One wonders if her being so entrenched with lackeys at state played a part of him going against their advice.
This also led to his first impeachment. See Vindman testimony.
It's quite possible.
WW3 would already have happened had she been elected in 2016. She was telegraphing something like Ukraine even back then. The hawks on the left have a real war boner for Russia. Which makes sense. With Putin out of the way, there is no serious opposition to the left’s plans for global hegemony.
The only real threats would be an internal revolution here, and China.
"...Lots of failings elsewhere,.."
Yeah, mean tweets angered those hoping for a daddy-figure; bad stuff, indeed.
"Of all the things you can get after Trump on you picked one of the few things he was actually pretty good for?"
Right? He was a shit President, but he didn't start any new wars. That's one of the few things he managed to do (or, in this case, not to do).
He was a good president. You’re just a leftist shit.
Two things Trump did well. Minimizing Foreign conflict and appointing judges.
Plenty of other things to criticize. Maybe stick to those?
Two things Trump did well. Minimizing Foreign conflict and appointing judges.
Plenty of other things to criticize. Maybe stick to those?
^
He also cut regulations, and cleared the way for US energy independence.
But he didn't do those perfectly! In no small part, because both Republicans and Democrats opposed his efforts! So we should support those very Republicans and Democrats that now want to do everything in their power to keep Trump -- and likely anyone else like Trump as well -- out of office!
You know who else Reason should look at if they want to see what a real warmonger is like?
I forget joe, how many lights again?
He will happily proclaim there are five lights, without hesitation.
Joe, do you think people are stupid and you just lie to them, or do you believe this crap yourself?
I have no like for Trump, but he was awesome concerning war and foreign relations compared to any modern president. This piece is just grasping to be critical of the guy.
Yeah.
See? You can do it.
Unfortunately, if you're a hawkish sort, he doesn't stand up well their either.
What the fuck, Reason? Which additional looking glass are we through now? Not only no longer pretending to be libertarian, but no longer pretending to be even close to honest? Is this the new upside-down Newspeak Reason edition?
Man, Trump broke you so hard that you reflexively spasm just at the thought of another episode of mean tweets.
I assume you are in dire need of a chiropractor after writing this.
Trump will run as "an anti-war dove amongst the hawks." But while a forceful nudge in an anti-war direction would be a welcome development for the party, Trump's record casts doubt on his seriousness.
I'm sure the Koch paymasters here will keep pounding on that. But the lack of seriousness of Trump is because of his narcissism and attention-seeking. His Prez record is OK re non-intervention. If he chooses to talk about his Prez record (unlikely) rather than himself, then that is a good agenda item for a R primary.
If he has actually learned from his experience (not just unlikely but nigh impossible) - and talks about that (or hell releases his ghost-written Presidential memoirs during the run when people might read it), then maybe his 2024 run will be a better legacy than his Presidency. eg Surrounding oneself with deep state folks and generals is not the way the swamp gets drained. 'Failing to manage/execute' is a more important problem than 'polishing the rhetoric' is a solution.
There's only one Koch paymaster left, Charles Koch, and he has a business partnership with George Soros.
Is this the most dishonest Reason article ever?
Pretty high bar but definitely a contender.
With the current regime dragging us into war with a nuclear power and all of Trump's predecessors engaging us in decades of war any rational person is forced to reach the conclusion Trump's foreign policy was orders of magnitude better than the alternatives from a libertarian perspective. If there is an anti war movement in the US it resides in that icky populist wing of the Republican party. I don't know anything about DeSantis foreign policy views. Hopefully he is aligned with that movement. In any case I would vote for Trump based on his foreign policy while in office alone.
"any rational person" pretty much disqualifies any Reason writer. All Reason writers suffer from a very particularly debilitating form of TDS called "LGBT" (Love Great Biden Totally)
I think this particular article is to take the heat off of Biden's Balloon Blowup Fiasco. If you notice Reason avoids certain stories that put Biden in a bad light, or do like the rest of the woke liberal press tried this time, some how blame Biden's disasters on Trump or say "Trump did it too!" NaNaNaNahna!
The truth is all Presidents do stuff like this, but Trump got us in no new wars. Keep that in mind.
Huh, yet today’s blog posts somehow had two posts critical of Biden. That’s an odd way to show total love.
Biden is in the process of being replaced. Follow along.
It didn't, but even if it did, that would be 2 to, what, 22,222? See Mikey, it's like how if you suck 45,000 cocks in your lifetime, but you also had sex with a woman once, you're still a faggot.
Dee likes cawk
That bitch!
Cite?
Funny how all those anti war democrats are completely silent now.
Y'know, Uncle Joe's generic Viagra was being delivered on that balloon. What's Dr. Jill going to do now?
SHE probably ordered the strike.
Not to worry, sarcasmic, Episiarch (formerly Bo Cara Esq, dba Mike "White Mikey" Laursen), cytotoxic (dba chemjeff), all 18 shreek socks, all 8 Tony socks, and Sandra will still be lined up to suck on Joe's flaccid member until he dribbles out a nice little cum bubble they can all share.
WTF? I do not like Trump, but he almost certainly was the least hawkish president we've had since Carter
Only if you don't count the foreign policy he practiced as president.
So, you're calling a case where 1) uniformed military personnel 2) used a military weapon 3) during a war 4) in the theater of war 4) to kill 5) a group of ten enemy military personnel, an "assassination"?
Okay. What's your word for angry civilians criminally killing civilian leaders for political ends, then?
In the case of Mohamar Gaddafi they called it Hillary Clinton's seasoned, expert-level foreign policy.
“Kinetic military action” is the term they went with, IIRC.
All the ill-thought-out, unnecessary military aggression of Iraq but without the nuisance of getting approval from Congress .
His anti-war record is better than Biden's, or Obama's, or Bush (1 or 2)'s, or Clinton's. He trusted his instincts enough to avoid getting bogged down in Syria, or starting a full-scale war on Iran. And somehow he kept his supposed Russian and North Korean friends in line as well, perhaps by being unpredictable.
Lol, nope. Trump literally said he made a mistake escalating Afghanistan because he didn’t go with his gut. Trump also escalated Yemen which led to 3 Americans getting killed in a terrorist attack in Kenya. Bush 2 has the worst record by far because his approval rating only went up when he slaughtered Muslims and his primary goal was winning a second term.
"His anti-war record is better than Biden’s, or Obama’s, or Bush (1 or 2)’s, or Clinton’s"
Or Reagan, Ford, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy, Eisenhower, Truman, Roosevelt.
In the last 100 years only Hoover, Carter and Trump didn't really start shit.
Biden not only didn't start any new wars, he ended the one that had been going on for 20 years. Guess what the fucking FOX News contingent thought about that.
Nope. Sorry faggot. He didn’t end Afghanistan, Trump did. The deal was already in place. Then Biden fucked it up. If I pitched this as a script for a film, no one would have considered it realistic because it was such a spectacular failure. Just like everything democrats touch.
"Just days into his administration, Trump greenlit a military operation in Yemen that yielded no valuable intelligence but led to the death of Navy Seal Ryan Owens. "
By all means, don't even mention the murder of Nawar al-Awlaki in that same raid. What's the life of one innocent eight-year-old American girl compared to that of a Navy SEAL?
Who does Lancaster expect to believe the image he's projecting of Trump? At this point does Reason have any influence at all? Who can they possibly persuade?
Another vacuous, pathetic article by a once great publication. I visit the site periodically to see what beltway libertarians are thinking about, but I have not walked away with a useful insight in years.
Now that we know what beltway libertarians are thinking about, I can't help but wonder what real libertarians are thinking about.
It's a pity there's not a good magazine with their thought!
(Also, these days, I mostly visit the site to see the comments that ream beltway "libertarians" for their "hot takes" on Republicans.)
Opposing foreign interventions was an excellent policy for Trump. Makes it hard for those of us trying to differentiate between Trump and DeSantis. The old dichotomy between "one is smart and one is dumb" doesn't quite work anymore.
"Despite" his record, the title says. Why ignore actual history? Trump may have talked as a NY bully would; but under his presidency Putin felt short-leashed. It took Biden's Kabul disgrace to start the shedding of Slavic blood.
But these facts contradict the impression these people get from Trump's autofellatio. Everyone knows being smart means believing everything the big man says about how great he is.
Stupid bitch faggot. You say the most idiotic things. Figures, with your 85 IQ.
So name all the Presidents that didn’t use the military like Trump did going back to WW2 ? Crickets!
https://www.historyguy.com/wars_by_president.htm
You will see some started wars, some inherited wars, and all used the military for a purpose not quite war. Yet Trump is one that inherited a war, and did not Initiate one, so indeed he is correct.