Ticketmaster's Taylor Swift Glitch Doesn't Require a Congressional Hearing
The site crashed because Swift is very popular, not because antitrust enforcement is too weak.

Back in mid-November, presale opened for mega pop star Taylor Swift's "Eras" tour. With 2 million tickets sold in one day, and pent-up demand due to her lack of tour dates since 2018, fans hustled to snap up tickets, crashing the Ticketmaster website.
Ticketmaster alleges it wasn't just fans trying to nab tickets, but also an unprecedented number of bots—most likely working on behalf of scalpers. Despite website glitches, 2 million fans got tickets for Swift concerts—"the most tickets ever sold for an artist in a single day," according to the company—and the general sale was subsequently canceled, as there weren't enough tickets left. Based on site traffic, Ticketmaster (which merged with Live Nation back in 2010 to create Live Nation Entertainment) calculated that Swift would have needed to play more than 900 stadium shows, or 20 times the number she is actually doing, in order to meet the extraordinarily high demand.
Enter Amy Klobuchar.
On Tuesday, Joe Berchtold, Live Nation's president, was trotted before the Senate Judiciary Committee to answer for Ticketmaster's purported misdeeds, which mostly involved its sheer bigness more than anything.
"This is all the definition of monopoly," said Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D–Minn.).
Klobuchar was referring to the company controlling roughly 70 percent of the market, and owning both a ticketing platform and many venues; competitors like Jerry Mickelson, an independent promoter, attested to the fact that "Live Nation can profit from concerts put on by rival promoters because it still makes money through its control of Ticketmaster," according to The New York Times. "'Pepsi doesn't earn money from Coke,' he said. 'But our competitor, Live Nation, makes money from selling tickets to our concerts.'"
This is how mergers work: Companies that formerly did one thing, or controlled a smaller share of the market, join forces with others to scale. To act like Live Nation/Ticketmaster is immune from competitive pressures ignores how new entrants like SeatGeek have threatened its dominance, as well as how government responses to the COVID-19 pandemic forced an almost two-year pause in hosting large events in many localities, which cut into its bottom line. Artists are free to abstain from using the company if they want to go through the additional work of securing venues, promoting a show, and selling tickets themselves.
Competitors "argued that Live Nation has locked out rivals by securing long-term ticketing contracts with major venues," per The Washington Post. "If arenas and other performance venues choose another ticketing company, Live Nation will not bring them popular acts, competitors alleged."
This would be a violation of the merger terms, but it is not clear that the threat is explicit enough to bring forth legal action. (The Justice Department and the company have been involved in a battle over this since 2019.) And of course competitors want to bring down the largest company in the space; SeatGeek's CEO, Jack Groetzinger, argued for the breakup of Ticketmaster and Live Nation as "the only way to restore competition in this industry." Everyone's acting in their self-interest.
Hmm. I've performed shows that weren't ticketed by Ticketmaster. You just have to do more of the work to find a venue, sound setup, & deal directly w/ venue. Artists actually have a choice here don't they? With Ticketmaster, you're paying for their marketing engine.
— David Choi (@DavidChoiMusic) January 25, 2023
Berchtold did acknowledge that there were some legitimate problems with the presale. "Technical problems also caused tickets to disappear from the online baskets of customers—whom Ticketmaster had approved through its Verified Fan system—as they were trying to buy them," noted The New York Times. But companies sometimes have websites that glitch, and senators made it clear that the whole event was not really about solving I.T. problems, but rather about breaking up what they see as a monopoly. Others called in to testify also attacked the company's size and power, arguing that the fees charged by the company are too high, with artists getting too little profit.
Like so many congressional hearings of large, successful companies, senators don't seem to have a commonly agreed-upon understanding of what Ticketmaster did wrong. Instead, they hectored Ticketmaster for glitching (a common problem that is not illegal and may in fact be punished by market forces if it persists); for taking too much profit (another thing that's not illegal); for being too large and successful (also not illegal, yet, though senators did threaten to attempt to unwind the 2010 merger). And they did so in the most performative, farcical way possible, by awkwardly reciting Swift lyrics clearly fed to them by their tween daughters ("She's cheer captain and I'm on the bleachers," said Utah Republican Sen. Mike Lee during one portion).
Artists and their management are free to do more of the legwork to organize tours themselves if they want to rake in more profits. But Ticketmaster/Live Nation provides a valuable service to artists, management, and fans, even if website glitches sometimes result in a horrific miscarriage of justice where some Swifties get denied tickets they would have liked to purchase. The Senate Judiciary Committee would be wise to remember that companies currently at the top don't stay there forever and that we live in a time of extraordinary, unprecedented abundance when this is the issue being investigated by sitting senators.
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MIR has a better upside to SWIFT.
Usually when I see SWIFT, they're either in a stuck in a ditch or stuck under a bridge.
Oh, a different SWIFT?
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I think this misses the point: Congress almost never NEEDS to hold Congressional hearings. This wasn't about fact-finding in aid of important new legislation. This was about air time for Congress Critters and the narrative from the bully pulpit. Evil CEOs and trust-busting almost always resonate with the voters back home. It doesn't really matter whether there is actually a problem or that Congress intends to fix the problem.
It makes for good local TV news coverage, that is certain.
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I was gonna say…
That may all be well and good, and Taylor Swift having a ticket snafu isn't a federal lawmaking issue....
But...
Ticketmaster has been abusing their monopoly power for decades. They have strong armed exclusive contracts that make competition nonviable.
Anti-trust enforcement dropped the ball on this in the 90s.
All one need do to figure this out is to look at the fees they collect. My local university sells GameDay football tickets for $2. Ticketmaster gets a $7 fee for each ticket. (And the government takes another few bucks).
There is no way processing a transaction carries more value than putting on a multimillion dollar sporting event.
And I guarantee that a competitor could build a ticketing platform that does everything they need for pennies on the dollar.
They don't have a total monopoly. I buy tickets from Eventbright, Live Nation, and Stub Hub, as well as Ticketmaster when I go see shows.
Ticketmaster is live nation and stub hub
I stand corrected.
had no idea either I only learned because my s.o. laughed at me for overpaying stubhub for something
No, this is not a monopoly. High prices tell competitors there is an opportunity.
The only long-lasting monopolies are those created by government, and of course government itself.
Go learn some economics. Stop believing government. Stop freaking out over temporary market volatility.
ETA to ask what your solution is to this alleged monopoly -- force Taylor Swift to split her ticket sales between different companies on some government-determined ration of market share? There is only one Taylor Swift. The fact that there are competitors is proof enough that the market is "correcting" this temporary "failure".
'There is only one Taylor Swift.' Easily solved w/ a chainsaw. Congress doesn't have to get involved. The fans of her 'music' might be disappointed w/ the outcomes though.
If you can "guarantee that a competitor could build a ticketing platform that does everything they need for pennies on the dollar" then you'd have to be a moron not to be that competitor yourself. If your hypothesis is right, that's free money just lying around.
Put your money where your mouth is. Prove that it's as easy as you say it is.
"This is all the definition of monopoly," said Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D–Minn.).
That's quite true. Taylor Swift has a monopoly on her brand. The inability of anyone other than Taylor Swift to hold Taylor Swift concerts means she has 100% market share. People who want to see Taylor Swift in concert have to purchase tickets where Taylor Swift chooses to appear, and she can either constrict or increase the supply based only on her whims.
And that's a good thing. She owns the only version of her product that a certain audience wants to purchase and she can monetize it however the hell she wants.
This is really funny
She owns the only version of her product
Scooter Braun would like a word with you.
Everything is a monopoly if you define it the right way.
Does Safeway have a grocery monopoly, to reference a recent story? Maybe, maybe not. But what about the Mom-n-Pop bodega at the corner? YES! They have a monopoly of that corner! You want a spot to pick up a quick soda and poptart, they are literally a monopoly! 60% market share in your neighborhood (the competitor being the liquor store across the street that Mormons want visit and Baptists only at night).
Everything is a monopoly if you define it right.
"you can organize your own ticket service"
I do not think this is true. And artists cannot use any competing services.
My knowledge on this is quite old, but unless it has changed, ticketmaster used their first mover status to force exclusivity contracts onto the venues. By being the biggest, they got the big acts and used that to force all of the big venues to sign with them. And they used that to force all of the big acts to sign with them.
So, they created a world free from competition. They were contested by Pearl Jam, but that went nowhere.
By moving to all digital ticketing, they also own the secondary market on tickets.
There are definitely issues here beyond "senators are idiots and don't understand any of the issues". It certainly seems that our author understands them even less.
As I said above, I buy tickets from competing services all the time. Could be a venue thing. Every act at the big venues uses Ticketmaster from what I've seen. Smaller acts can get away with snubbing the big guy.
It says "70%". How is that a monopoly? What is your definition of the "correct" market share?
Don't just whine. Propose equitable government solutions, since you seem to relish a government solution.
25% is a monopoly if you're Google
A company I used to work for, which literally invented its industry, had 60% market share. Primarily because they were so good and because the literally invented the industry. We were not allowed to add new features to the product, because that might increase sales and lead to congressional hearings.
So while there is no hard and fast market share that defines a monopoly, if you are deliberately avoiding additional sales, then you are on the ragged edge.
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>... to force exclusivity contracts onto the venues.
If they didn't use a gun or government action or threat of either, then it was not force. Offering a good deal is NOT force.
100% of those contracts can be terminated or renegotiated if there's enough money on the table. "Exclusivity in perpetuity" is not an enforceable clause in a contract.
I would let Taylor Swift break me like a promise.
she thinks she's so pretty
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Why you gotta be so mean?
is the song in my head every time I see her.
We are never getting back together. Like ever.
Don't get all worked up about it. Just shake it off.
Not in your wildest dreams.
You an antihero or something?
I'm Mr. Perfectly Fine.
You win. I used the only two songs of hers that I know.
one more than I know I was stuck after shake it off
Antihero came up on my Pandora rotation for some unexplained reason. Holy fucking shit it’s catchy. Listen to the song for a minute and you need ear cleanser or it will be stuck in your head for the rest of the day.
Edit: Try. I dare you. Listen to it and see if you can get it out of your head without listening to something else.
I'll make it easy.
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the funeral scene was funny. she writes like a weirdo. and I can't imagine she actually has the problems she sings about but yes catchy
Are you sure? I heard she has a blank space (in her book), and could write your name.
I would not toss her out of bed for getting crumbs on the sheets.
the correct action was to pass a bill forcing TSwifty to do 300 shows a year
And share the proceeds with other less successful artists, to correct for market distortions.
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I first heard of her from Don Boudreaux's blog. Weird chick with crazy eye makeup.
and none of them will ever be Samantha Fox.
Blech. She does nothing for me. Seems fake. She does seem to be perfectly matched with that Machine Gun Kelly guy. For shits and giggles I'm going to try to listen to one of his songs.
"Bloody Valentine." I can't finish it. It's terrible.
"I cannot sing, I really suck, though this hot actress says I'm great
I'm tall and thin, I cannot win, this must be luck or stroke of fate"
*barf*
I have the "Touch Me" EP on vinyl, with Sam in lingerie on the cover. And I used to have a lot of her posters (I miss Spencer's gifts).
that's a fan right there. I have but mere cassettes and memories of the posters lol
Now I am imagining Don Boudreaux with crazy eye makeup. Damn you!
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All the Trump rednecks in Tennessee turned her off from the GOP.
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Why not just outlaw on line sales of any tickets to any live performance?
Sports, concerts, plays, etc. Make everyone line up outside in all kinds of weather (so the facial recognition has plenty of time to work) and issue physical tickets.
I got wristband 00001 for Whitesnake/GreatWhite in 1988 ... staying out all night in line for concert tix was half the fun
I remember those days. Though were I lived at the time scalpers would hire a bunch of homeless people to camp out at the beginning of the line (which wasn't a big deal for them because that was just how they lived anyway) to buy up all the good tickets to be resold for a premium.
was in many many lines, but that was my highlight
I did once, for Page-Plant back in the early 90s. I was tenth or so in line and lucky enough to get floor seats. Great show. The line sucked though. Nobody even knew who was playing. They were all buying tickets for other people.
No widespread scalping.
Two comments:
1) I am unsure what Ticketmaster did which was wrong.
2) Who is "Taylor Swift?"
Oh bullshit. If you have access to the internet, you don't live under a rock. And if you don't live under a rock, you know who she is.
So I actually needed to add " /sarc?"
Geez.
She's related to Thomas Anthony swift. The boy with the electric rifle
Tom Swift is culturally important as a Golden Age science fiction character, the other, what passes for popular music for modern audiences.
Fan: Tickemaster is DOWN!
Reason: Use the alternative.
Fan: There isn't one because monopoly abuse of contracts.
Reason: There is no need for antitrust hearing.
Hmm ...
There are other ways to sell tickets. If her management chose an exclusive deal with Ticketmaster, that was their choice. Since the demand was so high, an online auction would have been a better choice -- demand meets supply at the market clearing price, Econ 101. But then people would be complaining that the tickets cost too much.
If you can't complain, what's a poor, whiny "victim" to do?
Her management made no deal with Ticketmaster. The venue made the deal with Ticketmaster. Ticketmaster has exclusive deals with all the major venues. If you want to put on a large show you have to use Ticketmaster.
Choose another venue? Yeah. I'll just choose the venue that seats 100 instead of 50,000.
Gee, picking up a phone is so HARD, right, slaver?
Ahem... the acceptable term is now "undocumented ticket broker".
...Swift would have needed to play more than 900 stadium shows, or 20 times the number she is actually doing, in order to meet the extraordinarily high demand...
Easy, hologram simulcast. Fill 20 stadiums at once.
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My question which I've heard no answer for was how did 14 million people get on the site that was for 1.5 million verified fans?
When you're invoking the government because you didn't get Taylor Swift tickets, I assume your life is otherwise pretty damn good.
Oh, and as if it needs to be said:
WHO?!!
Or, at the least: "Who cares?"
So long as it keeps attention away from droolin' Joe's sales of political access and various government officials strong-arming the media, it certainly is required!
I’m not joining the latest mob for any “social media passion”. That said I am VERY concerned about the ever shrinking attention to the laws of serious attention to monopolies, especially in matters that mean more than the music du jour. Food giant mergers! Media mergers! Transportation mergers! and the related government sponsored/nurtured/protected controls on health care providers. That doesn’t include witch hunts by political mobs, but DOES mean SERIOUS OBJECTIVE attention to SERIOUSLY, OBJECTIVELY defined rules by rational decent people – guess that puts most politicians out of the running!
Taylor Swift and fans, their issues with Ticket Master may or may not have merit – no way either you or I will find an realistically unbiased story about that in an already shamelessly biased MSM.
So please put that time and money to fund some more useful, not merely whimsically “popular”, cause.
Sans government squashing competition, most monopolies exist simply because they do what they do better and cheaper than anyone else. Soon as someone figures out a better way, the monopoly dies.
The Federal Government had no business getting involved with Southwest's problem a few weeks ago either.
Crazy talk!
Is this some of that bread and circuses shit?
I thought we used to stop large mergers to prevent this very type of thing. Mergers mean less competition, which means more tomfoolery.
Wolfe, not seeing an individual liberties angle here. Kudos on calling out Congressional shenanigans, but overpriced tickets, ticket site crashes, these fall squarely into what folks call 1st world problems.
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eem to have a commonly agreed-upon understanding of what Ticketmaster did wrong. Instead, they hectored Ticketmaster for glitching (a common problem that is not illegal and may in fact be punished by market forces if it persists); for taking too much profit (another thing that's not illegal); for being too large and successful (also not illegal, yet, though senators did threaten to attempt to unwind the 2010 merger). And they did so in the most performative, farcical way possible, by awkwardly reciting Swift lyrics clearly fed to them by their tween daughters ("She's cheer captain and I'm on the bleachers," said Utah Republican Sen. Mike Lee during one portion).
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