Brickbat: Drop and Give Me 300

Rockwell-Heath High School in Texas has placed football coach John Harrell on administrative leave after several team members were hospitalized following a post-season workout. The students were diagnosed with rhabdomyolysis, a serious and potentially fatal medical condition that happens when injured muscle tissue is released into the blood, possibly damaging the heart or kidneys. The workout involved completing more than 300 push-ups in 60 minutes. The Rockwell Independent School District has brought in an outside investigator to look into the incident.

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So, sorting out the weak from the strong? Seems legit.

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Harrell’s in his first year of coaching and his team went 7-5 so it’s perfectly understandable that he’d be disciplined for this sort of abuse. It’s not like they were in the running for state champions or anything where they would cover for his fat ass.

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I’m trying to figure out if there’s a typo because I can’t imagine how doing 300 push-ups in 60 minutes can lead to rhabdomyolysis, especially for the kind of reasonably fit teenager that is likely to be playing on a football team.

That’s five per minute. You could do 10, then wait out until the end of 2 minutes, then do 10, etc. I’m not sure how that’s going to destroy your arms. Again, assuming the basic level of fitness you’d have to have to even make it onto the football team.

Are these special push-ups? Negatives? With weights?

[Deep Lurker]

Or did the workout include other exercises in addition to the pushups? That “involved” in the news story is an innuendo. The story doesn’t outright say either that the workout consisted solely of pushups or that the workout did include other exercises.

[Sometimes a Great Notion]

Or perhaps the day of a blood drive.

My lax coach did that once; brought in some marines to act as drill sergeants on the day of a blood drive. Kids were puking up nothing, left and right of the field.

[JoeJoetheIdiotCircusBoy]

This is what I’m thinking. When I was in HS football our coaches would never have us do something like this. Instead, it would be pushups for 2 minutes…windsprints for 5 minutes…updowns for 2 minutes….1 minute rest…rinse and repeat.

[Agammamon]

Give it a try. After 20 minutes see how much you got left in your arms.

[mad.casual]

He is right, however, that there are numerous details missing and the reporting, even at the source, is shitty as hell.

The story comes from “a source”. The diagnosis, according to “a source” comes from a trainer, not a doctor. The school goes full “Here’s what the CDC says about rhabdomyolysis.”, apparently, based on “a source”‘s opinion about a trainer’s “diagnosis” of rhabdomyolysis…

Anecdotally, I once developed a case of rhabdo, clinically confirmed, by, I guess, unloading about 1.5 tons of concrete. No hustling, never out of breath, maybe even didn’t break a sweat. No pain or discomfort or bags dropped on limbs or blows to the kidneys or anything. Just unload it all. Sit down for lunch, go to the bathroom and note that what’s normally more of a pale ale is somewhere between Sam Adams Irish Red and Guinness.

To the story, we have no idea how many kids were affected and even the physician is like “If you can’t lift your arms above your head, you might have rhabdo.” Unless you’re working your fucking calves and quads you moron! And like my mystery above, we just choose the 300 pushups because that’s the highest nail we’ve got for our hammer. Almost certainly, they’ve been practicing all week and the pushups were over the top, but you wouldn’t get that knowledge from the shitty article.

I don’t need to see everybody’s bilirubin levels or anything, and Crossfitters are crazy as fuck, rhabdo is not fun or funny. However, something other than “Some persons, who have parents, allege something about push ups against a coach.” would be helpful.

[NOYB2]

I’m trying to figure out if there’s a typo because I can’t imagine how doing 300 push-ups in 60 minutes can lead to rhabdomyolysis,

By itself and spread out evenly, probably not. Depending on what else they were doing and what the conditions were, it’s possible.

Training schedule, alcohol, dehydration, steroids, drugs, food poisoning, etc. are all possible causes or contributing factors.

That’s why they need an investigation to see who, if anybody, was at fault.

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[Chumby]

What is the covid vaccination status of the affected students?

[Don't look at me!]

Is that some kind of jab against vaccines?

[Ajsloss]

Don’t go poking around for irrelevant information.

[Don't look at me!]

A stinging rebuke!

[Utkonos]

Instead of needling Chumby let us focus on how the exercise of better judgment would have made things workout better.

[Ajsloss]

That as it may be, revealing vaccination status is something a prick would do.

[Utkonos]

In vein do we dwell on it!

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“No entity in Texas can compel receipt of a COVID-19 vaccine by any individual, including an employee or a consumer, who objects to such vaccination for any reason of personal conscience, based on a religious belief, or for medical reasons, including prior recovery from COVID-19.”

TX does not list “the jab” as required for K-12 students.

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So…what is the covid vaccination status of the affected students?

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[Longtobefree]

“The Rockwell Independent School District has brought in an outside investigator to look into the incident.”

Somehow, I remain skeptical that more money will improve education.

[kcuch]

The Rockwell Independent School District has brought in an outside investigator to look into the incident.

Random Thought; With all the Advanced Degrees on the RISD Payroll no-one there is competent to this task.

[Agammamon]

They’re all compromised. High school football is the most important thing in this town.

[mad.casual]

I was almost thinking this, but both ways. Sorta like the “You can’t use expired drugs to execute someone!” or “You can’t have special forces PT requirements that are too stringent for women to qualify!”

[SRG]

Judging by what I hear from HS coaches on the field when I’m on the track, or from students who train at my gym, knowledge of anything other than sports-specific subjects is uncommon amongst them. You see drills that have been debunked a generation ago, for example. or hear of coaches sending their sprint squad on 5k runs on their single rest day of the week.

[Agammamon]

You gotta hand it to these kids. They were willing to push their bodies til they collapsed and ended up in the hospital, opening up their slots to be filled by better players.

[bobby oshea]

I don’t know what happened Doctor. I had been drinking plenty of fluids all day. I had a Monster in the morning on the way to school, 3 Mtn Dews at lunch, and another Monster before practice. I was peeing a lot so I know I was hydrated.

[Dillinger]

is RockwAll not Rockwell … 300 pushups in an hour causes hospitalized children now?

[bobby oshea]

300 pushups in 1 hour is a lot, even for football players (?especially? for fat lineman). Surpised it led to rhabdo, because once your arms are done, you just can’t keep doing them.

That being said, I strongly suspect these kids weren’t doing themselves any favors with hydration and nutrition. Probably should have skipped the 3 Mtn Dew’s during lunch and drank the high quality H2O. I see parent’s at rec basketball games giving their kids Mtn Dew for their water break. It’s sad.

[NOYB2]

300 pushups in 1 hour is a lot, even for football players (?especially? for fat lineman). Surpised it led to rhabdo, because once your arms are done, you just can’t keep doing them.

If you’re otherwise rested, that’s true. The pushups may simply have been a contributing factor, combined with anything from a wild party the night before to food poisoning or COVID-19.

That’s why they need an investigation to see whether what the coach demanded was unreasonable.

[Unicorn Abattoir]

300 push-ups in 60 minutes

5 pushups a minute??

[Longtobefree]

Yep, but remember, math is racist, so the kids couldn’t know that.

[Dillinger]

I’m probably going to try it here after a few calls. I’ll let you know if I need 9-1-1

[mad.casual]

Again, we keep getting this number but this is, or may be, entirely a fabrication of the shitty reporting.

That is, we don’t know if just the *expectation* was 300 in 60 min., or whether any of the kids achieved 300 in 60 min. or whether the kids “diagnosed” with rhabdo by the trainer did 300 in 60 min…

Taking a broader view, this feels very much like a hard headed Texas coach that really wants to run 2-a-day practices in 100-degree heat despite any and all risks because he doesn’t want his kids to get hurt *and lose*, and several “Everybody should get a trophy!” Karens who think their little Dudley Dursley should be able to compete against Tom Brady after doing 30 min. of practice a day, in the gym.

[Longtobefree]

Selections from that well respected medical authority, Wikipedia:

Rhabdomyolysis (also called rhabdo) is a condition in which damaged skeletal muscle breaks down rapidly.[6][4][5] Symptoms may include muscle pains, weakness, vomiting, and confusion.[3][4] There may be tea-colored urine or an irregular heartbeat.
The muscle damage is mostly caused by a crush injury, strenuous exercise, medications, or a substance use disorder.
Rhabdomyolysis occurs in about 26,000 people a year in the United States.
Exercise related causes:
Extreme physical exercise (particularly when poorly hydrated), delirium tremens (alcohol withdrawal), tetanus, prolonged seizures or status epilepticus

[markm23]

Maybe this is why: “particularly when poorly hydrated”

[Fist of Etiquette]

Hopefully medical authorities gave the student athletes all their inoculations while in their emergency care… for their safety.