Fixing Congress' Broken Appropriations Process Is Worth This Mess
This week's Republican revolt against Kevin McCarthy is actually a rank-and-file revolt against the top-down process that both parties have used to control the House in recent years.

Midway through the third day of the ongoing battle to pick a new speaker of the House, Rep. Matt Rosendale (R–Mont.) made an innocuous but telling point about the state of Congress.
"We have had more discussion and debate over the last three days than I have participated in, on this floor, for the past two years," Rosendale, one of the group of breakaway Republicans who have refused to back Rep. Kevin McCarthy's (R–Calif.) bid to become speaker, pointed out.
The stakes of this week's congressional drama, he argued, are not merely about which House member will hold the ceremonial gavel but about a deeper problem with how Congress functions.
"The process that we use has been dramatically broken," Rosendale explained, lamenting "the consolidation of power into the hands of the speaker and the fortunate few who happen to serve on the Rules Committee, which control every aspect of legislation that travels through this body."
This is not a new complaint, but it remains an underappreciated one. For the past few decades, Congress has shifted away from its traditional process for passing legislation—the one that's more or less reflected in the famous Schoolhouse Rock! song: A bill gets proposed, marked up in committee, amended, and finally put to a debate and voted on by the full chamber. Instead, as Rosendale explained Thursday, major bills are drafted by a handful of high-ranking leaders on both sides, then presented to the full House (usually with scant time to read or process what's in them) for a simple up-or-down vote with few or no amendments allowed.
The result, as American Enterprise Institute congressional scholar Kevin Kosar explained to Roll Call in November, is that leaders can more easily push legislation through the House with party-line votes. The downside, however, is that "legislators feel like they're not legislators," Kosar said.
One way to understand this week's Republican revolt against McCarthy, then, is that it's not really about McCarthy at all. It's actually a rank-and-file revolt against the top-down process that both parties have used to control the House in recent years. But the margins are thin enough right now that a few handfuls of lawmakers who are fed up with the process can use the speaker election as a pressure point to force a change.
Much of the media has lazily framed the speakership fight as a battle for personal power, but the renegade Republicans have made it clear what they are seeking. All the way back in July, the House Freedom Caucus published a list of demands for the next session. Right at the top of the document is a lengthy explanation of why the group believes power must be decentralized away from the speaker's hands. None of this should be coming as a surprise right now.
But the idea that rank-and-file legislators should get to exert some influence—to, as Rosendale put it, actually have debates on the floor of the House about the best course of action—is now something of a foreign concept in Washington, which might help explain why so many people seem to be surprised by this eruption of democracy. President Joe Biden has described this week's speaker election as "embarrassing," but the real embarrassment is what happened last month: when Congress passed a 4,000-page, $1.7 trillion spending bill that most lawmakers had little time to read and no real opportunity to influence.
"We have an oligarchy right now," former Rep. Justin Amash, who has complained for years about the top-down process used to push legislation through Congress, told Reason's Robby Soave on Thursday. "It's the leaders of the parties in Congress, and it's the president of the United States. Those people are deciding everything."
Change doesn't occur without a good reason. It's not yet clear that holding up the anointing of a new speaker of the House will result in any serious changes to the way Congress operates, but it seems like a game worth playing.
And it's a game the House Freedom Caucus might be winning. Politico reported yesterday that a brewing deal between McCarthy and the holdout Republicans would include "major changes to the appropriations process" including "standalone votes on each of the 12 yearly appropriations bills" and "allowing floor amendments to be offered by any lawmaker."
To be sure, some of the other demands the group of holdouts is making—including a vote on beefed-up immigration rules and the inclusion of House Freedom Caucus members on the all-powerful Rules Committee—may not be on-net victories for democracy or limited government. There's not much of a reason to root for this faction to take full control of Congress, but there's also little reason to fear that they will.
But you don't have to support the full House Freedom Caucus agenda or admire the often-noxious personalities within the group to recognize that they are absolutely right to demand changes in how Congress works.
"The debate and discussion has been all but eliminated, and the balance of us are left with a 'yes' or a 'no,'" Rosendale said Thursday. "Those are our options, and that is what has led to the disintegration of the relationships that we see across this floor."
In other words, the fight over the speakership election isn't evidence that Congress is broken. In fact, it might offer a glimmer of hope that the House can still be fixed.
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I am a dedicated fan of gridlock. I may not agree with everything the "breakaway" Republicans stand for, but there is no possible doubt that they are right to hold the House Speakership hostage for as long as possible. This is how Congress has been operating for the last few decades: upper management makes all the crucial decisions; debate is prevented; bills are consolidated into massive, critical "omnibus" legislation to avoid losing on questionable pieces; Speakers and Committee Chairs lie and manipulate behind the scenes to get what they want; Representatives are punished for failing to fund-raise or toe the official party line; and a few contrarians hold the entire process hostage from time to time.
"There are men running governments who shouldn't be allowed to play with matches." -- Will Rodgers
"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggie' until you can find a rock." - Totally unrelated Will Rogers quote.
Evidently, he foresaw Fetterman.
Me riffing on Will Rogers. There isn't any person running any government anywhere in the world who should be allowed access to matches.
"That government is best which governs least."
First, this is good. I am glad to see some writers actually putting thought into this issue at Reason.
Second:. We now have more time and effort devoted to navel gazing about the selection of the Speaker of the House (a rather minor in-group issue) than we have devoted to revelations that there is a massive organization inside our government dedicated to controlling online speech and the press.
We even have revelations that they specifically and explicitly took steps to alter the 2020 election.
Yet both nationally and here at reason we continue to see more coverage about not only this mundane catfight over who holds the gravel, but also an integrated doubling down on the false "stealing the election" narratives of the past.
Just check this example from the associated press:
https://apnews.com/article/politics-united-states-house-of-representatives-kevin-mccarthy-us-republican-party-0938c7358f41c83759246f8949ac7c15
Remember, the associated press is the "straight news" of all straight news. Just a wire service. Not even a hint of bias.
Now, parse this paragraph from an article about the speaker battle nearing a conclusion.
"The showdown that has stymied the new Congress came against the backdrop of the second anniversary of the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, which shook the country when a mob of then-President Donald Trump’s supporters tried to stop Congress from certifying the Republican’s 2020 election defeat to Democrat Joe Biden."
This paragraph was updated in the last 2 hours. Here is what it previously read:
The deadly attack was an unimaginable scene of chaos that shook the country when a mob of then-President Donald Trump’s supporters tried to stop Congress from certifying the Republican’s 2020 election defeat.
The wayback machine says it has been changed 6 times since publication earlier today.
AP does not acknowledge any edits.
Thanks for all that research, trivial as it may be. The extent to which statists lie and obfuscate needs to be more widely publicized. I wish Reason would participate.
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There’s not much of a reason to root for this faction to take full control of Congress, but there’s also little reason to fear that they will. But you don’t have to support the full House Freedom Caucus agenda or admire the often-noxious personalities within the group…
Gotta love the added social signaling at the end though.
Yeah, those icky Freedom Caucus members. Actually expecting the federal government to uphold it's actual immigration laws and enforce border security. Rule of Law was the "old" Libertarian party.
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>>It's not yet clear that holding up the anointing of a new speaker of the House will result in any serious changes to the way Congress operates, but it seems like a game worth playing.
would have used several fewer words but we speak the same language for once.
The freedom caucus folks are entirely correct that McCarthy is a soulless swamp creature who will sell out the american people at every opportunity.
The fact that the biggest sticking point is his unwillingness to cut spending, at all, is telling.
That said, there's no fixing this. congress is driving us all off a cliff and there's no stopping it.
I would amend this... Congress is pretending to steer the wheel of the bus as we plummet towards our doom. Our intellectual betters at CNN and Fox happily lead rounds of "The Wheels on the Bus" to keep the crowd entertained on the way down.
there's a yellow school bus Kamala joke in there somewhere too.
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Maybe he has a quota to reach.
For a brief while I freelanced and got paid by the column inch. In those situations you never use a short word when an ostentatious display of sesquipedalianistic verbiage would due.
Glad someone else said it though. One of the things that I most disliked about Pelosi, and why she stayed in power, was the iron fist of the speaker's rule that she imposed. It has become the thing in congress. The whole party must always vote entirely in lockstep, so you are representing the party not the people who elected you.
It won't change. I just don't like it.
>>got paid by the column inch
one of my writing instructors hammered into us use of the fewest words possible ... was like word golf
I had one of those for an English class. His favorite sentence? "Jesus wept." Claims it was everything anyone ever needed in two words.
His favorite word was "pithy."
I note that the first numbered item on the Freedom Caucus’s list of demands, linked from the article, is—
“Enact a “Majority of the Majority” Rule. Legislation passed in a Republican House should be supported by a majority of House Republicans.
“Our constituents did not elect us to cut deals with Democrats that cannot win the support of most Republicans.”
This does not sound like an attempt to give Representatives more power to act as independent agents, representing their constituents and not the party; it sounds very much like an attempt to press the party’s agenda, and only the party’s agenda.
“would have used several fewer words…..”
Yup. That’s what we like about ya, dill.
Fixing Congress' Broken Appropriations Process Is Worth This Mess
The one thing we can be sure of is that the "appropriations process" will not get fixed.
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But what about the mean tweets from the 20 terrorists? Not mean enough you can actually support it?
Nice article, i.e. Trump's name wasn't mentioned for no Reason.com, at least five times.
"Instead, as Rosendale explained Thursday, major bills are drafted by a handful of high-ranking leaders on both sides, then presented to the full House (usually with scant time to read or process what's in them) for a simple up-or-down vote with few or no amendments allowed."
Of course, those poor, downtrodden, low ranking members could stop that nonsense by simply voting "no" an each and every bill presented by that process.
So where is the evil?
In those who practice it, or those who permit it?
Or those who vote for the leaders who continue doing it?
It does take some huevos to vote no, these days. Buck the party and you're likely to have all your party funding pulled for the next election, or worse, get primaried by a more compliant candidate supported by big party dollars. And, worse, big super PAC dollars from Soros, Unions, and other interests who prefer having a party that works that way, and suddenly get very active in local politics when it doesn't.
I wish I could say it didn't work, but it's very rare you get a holdout anymore.
Something about Nancy Pelosi changing all the House rules or something?
In my libertopia, the legislative process is pretty simple. Any legislator can propose bills, and they control its revisions. Once a bill is introduced, it undergoes a 30-90 day review period. If, at the end of that review period, it has not received 2/3 approval from other legislators, it has failed and is no longer a bill.
30 days minimum to avoid rushes. 90 day maximum to avoid bills hanging around past their sell-by date.
Other legislators and the public can propose revisions, but changing the bill is up to its author. All revisions restart the review period and cancel all previous approvals. So some legislator could keep throwing in minor revisions to keep his bill alive, but at the cost of having to get fresh approvals.
And of course political parties would set up shadow committees, forbid members from creating bills without party permission, forbid approving other bills without party permission, and so on. But all that will become public knowledge whether they want it to or not, and makes the party control more obvious.
That’s pretty good. What’s missing is an incentive to repeal crappy legislation instead of amending it. To put it another way, kill the pig instead of putting lipstick on it. I’m not sure how to do it though.
I didn't mention that. My legislature has multiple chambers. All have to approve legislation by 2/3 within 30-90 days for bills to be enacted. But any single chamber can repeal existing laws by collecting 50%+1 signatures, which only expire with terms or when withdrawn.
So you've borrowing it from Heinlein.
No. How quickly you slip back into insults.
How was that an insult?
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Robert Heinlein suggested a branch of Congress concerned only with the repeal of idiotic laws. The closest thing to that was the 1972 Libertarian Party platform with spoiler vote clout increasing 12% per annum... until infiltrated by religious bigots and anarcho-commie whack jobs in 1980!
Not a bad plan.
My more complicated libertopian plan for at least discretionary expenditures would be when you file your taxes, the taxpayer choices next year's budget which any Congressman or caucus can submit (The Squad budget or a Rand Paul budget). Before hitting send, it would calculate how much you'd owe next year based on the plan you selected. The budget most voted for gets enacted*. All budgets must be balanced. Let the people who pay decide whose the best steward of their money and see how much it cost them for all this "free" government programs.
*per person or a weighted vote by how much you paid; haven’t decided, lean towards later.
I had a vaguely similar process for budgets. The government goes through all its usual crap and comes up with whatever budget it wants. People still owe the same tax.
BUT -- when people file their taxes, they divide it up anyway they want. They can give it all to the Navy, Yellowstone National Park, or the Coast Guard rescue station on Lake SomewhereWithAnIndianName.
Any recipient getting more than in the budget refunds all the excess to all taxpayers. No transfers, no keeping it for next year.
Any recipient getting less than the budget is out of luck. Tough titty said the momma to the kitty.
And the refund can be split evenly among all taxpayers, or in proportion to taxes paid, I don't care.
I wouldn't be too quick to get on board with a requirement for a balanced budget. There are legitimate reasons for government to take on debt. War being the most glaring example. The trick would be allowing for that without Congress getting around it by declaring wars that never end, like on terror or drugs.
Correct me if I am wrong but I thought Congress had to declare war and bullshit like the Gulf of T resolution don't cut the mustard. If you wanna hide behind war being a reason to bust the budget seems like you can only do it if a war is declared. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Amen!
Things incapable of surrendering or falling victim to genocide?
Tax forms explicitly reject any penciled-in kibbitzing or suggestions--except in the form of the 1971 Nixon checkoff authorizing federal subsidies for entrenched looter kleptocracy soft machine candidates redeemable in hysterical media brainwashing campaigns that "won't increase your taxes".
Yeah, pretty good.
One way to partly address sarcasmic's concern might be automatic sunset for any law. I'm sure they can find a way to de-fang that one too.
Yes, I have that too: all laws expire within 500 days unless renewed. The 500 days allows year-to-year variations for traditional holidays (like Easter), vacations, storms, etc.
And ... any defect found in a law voids the entire law. This is to avoid judges second-guessing legislators and rewriting laws without all the compromises and negotiations which went into the original law, and also to discourage omnibus renewal laws; the more you pile into one law, the more likely there are to be internal inconsistencies and other defects.
As to how defects are determined: you put 12 random people (competent adults with no conflicts of interest) into separate rooms, with the law, a dictionary, pen and paper, no internet, no other references unless they are a necessary part of the law, such as an industrial standard, and leave them in their all day. They write down what they think the law is alleging to fix, what they think it actually does, what they think its foreseeable consequences are.
Allow bathroom breaks and one meal.
When they have all gotten too hungry to continue or are done, compare all their writeups. You have to allow for minor variations and mistakes. But if any said they could not understand parts of it, or their discrepancies show clear misunderstandings, the law is defective and void. No appeals to learned judges.
That's important. Laws should be comprehensible to the people who are expected to follow them.
Another thought is laws that contradict one another. I don't know how that is addressed today, let alone in Libertopia.
In my libertopia, one or all of conflicting laws are discarded as if all are defective.
Suppose one law addresses stealing apples and sets punishment at one year. Years later, another law is passed, setting the punishment for stealing fruit at two years. Does that override the apple law? Seems to. But what if the apple law also address selling dirty apples, and the fruit law doesn't? Irreconcilable differences, do you discard both or just one, and which one? I'd prefer both, since reconciling them is the legislature's job, not judges or juries.
if only there was some kind of document or ruleset to limit the scope and power of this legislative body.
There is. Unfortunately it's been whittled down to "Congress shall do whatever is necessary and proper to regulate commerce and promote the general welfare." The rest has been forgotten.
Thank Qing China's Imperial boycott of U.S. goods and the "silent panic" that conscripted U.S. politicians into off-with-their-heads prohibitionism in 1903. That's democracy!
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This whole article is bullshit. We all know the Freedom Caucus are Putin stooges put in place by the Kremlin just to sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids. They're causing havoc in the process of maintaining the uniparty status quo just because that's how much they hate America and everything we stand for. Unlimited immigration, infinite spending, cracking down on subversives that criticize our government, a permanent state of warfare, the economy tied down tightly by bureaucratic red tape, children being raised to be perverts - I weep at the thought of losing all these things.
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While the idea of a function appropriation process is good, I believe part of the downfall of the process was members misusing the process. Debate and amendments are good but if they simple are used to impede legislation I don't approve. If you don't like a bill, then vote against it. Using poison pills or hundreds of amendments is not acceptable. Lets have debate and amendments but real debate and real amendments.
"Much of the media has lazily framed the speakership fight as a battle for personal power"
Uh, some of your comrades here at Reason are taking this stance. Did you read the roundup today?
Yeah, I was gonna say-that's a mean thing to say about Bonnie and ENB. I hope they don't read this.
And who got Eric's (oh, so thoughtful!) vote in 2020?
"To be sure, some of the other demands the group of holdouts is making—including a vote on beefed-up immigration rules and the inclusion of House Freedom Caucus members on the all-powerful Rules Committee—may not be on-net victories for democracy or limited government."
Eric, i'll give you some props for this article. Overall, it's a step in the right direction. But 2 small points of contention.
1. Freedom Caucus isn't asking for beefed-up immigration rules. What they want, and what most American's expect, is that the FedGov will actually enforce border security to stop 3+ million illegal immigrants from entering our country.
Listen, let's cut the bullshit. If you and other "Libertarians" want open borders, that doesn't mean blatantly ignoring rule of law. You should support enforcement of the current law until new rules are passed by the legislature; not executive order. And certainly not by the government refusing to uphold their obligation to laws WHICH THEY FUCKING PASSED!!!
As an old school Libertarian, let's have open borders by passing legislation for it. That should include a legal framework for guest workers to enter, work and return to their countries. That should also include restrictions on those guest workers from using welfare, free school and free healthcare. If guest workers need these things, their work sponsor should pay for them, not city/country/state/fed governments.
2. You left out one of their most important demands: term limits. Swamp creatures like McCarthy are truly scare of this. Freedom loving Libertarians should be cheering this particular demand loudly. Let's put it to a vote and see where everybody stands.
Polls routinely show nearly 80% of people support term limits. Let's force these career politicians and wannabe career politicians to vote on the record! Probably not going to pass, especially if it's properly designed as a Constitution Amendment. But this will make great fodder for primary and election opponents.
While I believe the real issues are the Federal bureaucracies and their legions of soulless employees, this is a good start. If you want to drain the swamp, let's start with the disgusting film at the top: the US Congress and Senate.
Interesting that people favor term limits and yet they still keeping voting for incumbents, why?
Pelf? Boodle? Soft machine looting? Klan support?
Here's how I would fix it:
Limit each bill to 20 pages max, using 12-point font, double-spaced, single sided. Something even Congress people could read in an hour and understand.
Post each bill online for one week for public comment.
Then vote and post the roll call for each bill online with the bill.
What if the bill requires changes in existing law that require more than 20 pages to document? Most laws are relatively simple, the problem is that changes have to be made throughout existing law and administrative codes and that sometimes requires many, many pages to document.
Once again mod leaves no doubt that people like him are, in fact, the problem.
Fuck off and die, slimy pile of TDS-addled lefty shit.
Well, McCarthy won on the 15th try.
What a disgusting spectacle! Who elected these superstitious girl-bullying fanatics?
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