Brickbat: A Little Too Late

A federal judge in Massachusetts has refused to dismiss a lawsuit brought by the family of Shayne Stilphen, who died of an overdose while in the custody of the Boston Police Department. Judge Richard G. Stearns said the complaint offers "both subjective and objective reasons for the officers to understand that Stilphen faced substantial risk of serious harm unless provided immediate medical care." The complaint said Stilphen was showing obvious signs of opioid intoxication when he was booked into the jail, with security video showing him having trouble standing up without help from officers. Video showed officers walking by his cell several times over a period of almost an hour where they could see he was slumped over. Finally, one officer walked by and saw his body folded into an uncomfortable position and administered Narcan, but it was too late.
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What would have happened had they not arrested him?
Someone who doesn't get paid to keep him safe might have seen he got help?
It doesn't matter. They did arrest him and had a duty of care while in their custody.
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Whatever would have happened wouldn't have been their responsibility to prevent.
You lock someone in a cage, you take on responsibility for their care.
Maybe they shouldn't have depraved indifference be a job requirement.
It's not a job requirement. It's a natural consequence from having to deal with the worst dregs of society every day.
This is not an excuse but it does make it an eternal and, seemingly, unsolvable problem.
Maybe AI robots taking over law enforcement is the solution? Though that technology still seems far away.
It’s a natural consequence from having to deal with the worst dregs of society every day.
I used to believe that lie. Thing is, it's a lie. The worst dregs of society gravitate towards criminality and law enforcement. The only difference between the two is who signs their paycheck.
Nope, you got it wrong. Aside from the classic psychology experiments, Mother Jones sent one of their own inside.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/cca-private-prisons-corrections-corporation-inmates-investigation-bauer/
Shane Baur documents his rapid descent from a prison reform activist to authoritarian asshole. Well worth a read. He explains his transformation quite well. And he just did 3 months, not 25 years.
I agree. The indifference is acquired by dealing with self-destructive people every day.
Must’ve had a rolled up dollar bill with a couple carfentanyl-9 crystals in his pocket and the wind blew them into the mucous membrane of the narrating officer’s choice. We should be thanking our stars every cop and prisoner in the building isn’t dead and the world’s supply of opioids isn’t vaporizing into a toxic dust cloud as we speak.
We should be thanking our stars every cop and prisoner in the building isn’t dead and the world’s supply of opioids isn’t vaporizing into a toxic dust cloud as we speak.
What are you talking about? Normal people have never overdosed in that manner. Only police officers. The prisoners would be fine.
Ah, right. I fell victim to criminal v. cop partisan thinking again. You are correct, the primary victims would be of the minority blue class. Thanks for correcting my fallacious both sides reasoning.
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I certainly would not want my health and well being to be at the discretion of corrections officers. Once you are arrested, you are relegated to sub human status and you're going to get what's coming to you, one way or another; it's all part of the punishment mentality.
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I can remember a time when a family would be too ashamed to admit that a family member was a drug addict. Although the police should be ashamed to admit they let someone die in their custody, I'm not sure the current context is an improvement over the previous state of affairs.
The WHOLE POINT of actually banning safe drugs like LSD so as to protect toxic legacy narcotics market bribe and kickbacks systems. Overdoses are the collateral damage that racket inflicts. Try to find out if the cops actually dosed the guy to "prove" that Chauvin "didn't really" kill George Floyd.
A "slumped over" junkie isn't an abnormal posture.
While you all may not be aware of that, the cops in this case surely were.
I mean come on --'showing obvuious signs of opiod intoxication'
Really? He was high. He was nodding. That's a state heroin aficionados pursue.
Are you all this innocent?
The guy looked like a standard junkie on the rounds until he didn't. When he didn't look normal, they acted.
Even the 'biased-against-all-cops-whether-it's-deserved-or-not' tone of the article admits that.
What more could anyone expect?
A junkie gives himself an overdose and the police are at fault for not saving him so that he could do it again?
On less addict, no loss at all.
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