Subsidies To Help Workers Would Hurt Poor People
Some people would benefit. Others would lose money or be rendered unemployable.

For some time now, legislators have been eager to jack up subsidies for workers, whether it's by raising the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), hiking the minimum wage, or simply giving out cash benefits. Indeed, Democrats are hoping to achieve one of those goals—the EITC expansion—during the lame-duck session. One argument commonly used to justify these policies is that the link connecting worker productivity to wages has been broken for years. Workers, the argument goes, aren't capturing the gains from their rising productivity.
But common sense tells us to be skeptical that this link is broken. In fact, there are plenty of encouraging facts to report.
A worker's hourly productivity is the amount he adds to his employer's hourly revenue. If the worker is paid significantly less than his value, he's like free cash on the sidewalk to other employers who are willing to bid him away. To keep a valuable worker, a wise employer matches the bid. The worker's wage goes up to reflect his productivity.
However, this common-sense reasoning has been disputed, including by a popular chart that purportedly shows that wages started diverging from productivity starting in the 1980s. The suggestion is that Reagan-era freeing of labor markets fueled economic growth at the expense of ordinary workers.
Enter American Enterprise Institute economist Michael Strain with a new paper challenging the claim that worker productivity no longer determines workers' pay.
Strain notes, for instance, that when measuring someone's pay, it is essential to use total compensation as opposed to only wages. If one fails to include fringe benefits, one fails to capture what is today one-third of workers' pay. Strain concludes, "When properly measured, with variable definitions based on the most appropriate understanding of the relevant underlying economic concepts, trends in compensation and productivity have been very similar over the past several decades."
Strain also relies on a careful and recent paper by Harvard economists Anna Stansbury and Lawrence Summers showing that the relationship between productivity and compensation isn't a simple correlation but rather a causation—thus providing compelling evidence that compensation is strongly determined by productivity. This is good news.
None of these experts conclude that everything is therefore well in the world. In fact, Strain notes that if anything is troublesome in the labor market, it's that productivity has not grown as fast as we would have liked, and wage growth hasn't been equal for every type of worker.
Strain isn't the first economist to make the case for a more appropriate measurement of the relationship between productivity and pay, though his paper is a notable achievement because it makes such a thoughtful case. His and others' work will improve the debate on this issue. The sooner this happens, the better, since the mismeasurement drives some people to mistakenly believe that the government should intervene to correct a non-problem.
Why should we care? Some of the policy ideas floated by advocates of wage subsidies have a significant budgetary cost. For instance, EITC expansion would cost about $135 billion over 10 years. Even worse, most of these policies would in the end prove to be counterproductive, hurting more people than they help.
A good example is an increase in the federal minimum wage. While it would help some workers get higher pay, the change would penalize workers whose productivity is less than the new minimum wage. Many would be rendered unemployable. Not only would these workers lose current income, but they would also lose the ability to get valuable job-market experience. A Congressional Budget Office study suggests that raising the minimum wage would cause more workers to lose than to gain.
Labor markets would be further distorted by increasing the EITC. In a recent piece, the Cato Institute's Chris Edwards explains how the expansion of the benefit will create a mix of work incentives, some positive and some negative. Non-workers will be incentivized to enter the labor force and claim the credit, while those already in the labor force may face incentives to reduce their work hours. Overall, the net impact is likely to be negative because most people taking the EITC are precisely in the zone where the disincentives are the strongest.
Workers' best friend is a labor market that's free of harmful government distortions. Such a market will not only oblige employers to continue to pay workers according to productivity but will also intensify firms' efforts to become more productive.
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The problem with your theory is that big companies don't even try to outbid each other for low wage workers. They don't rate their own workers on productivity, much less try to poach good workers from competitors. No one at a store level has the authority to give good workers a raise.
This has led to a culture of people just doing the minimum, because there is no reward for working hard.
That's because government interferes in the market. If we had actual capitalism there'd be more work than people to do it and companies WOULD bid for good workers.
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"Real capitalism has never been tried!"
Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you had even the slightest inkling of self awareness?
Capitalism in many forms has been tried many times.
And we have consistently found that the more free market a country is, the wealthier all its citizens are.
You are dead wrong. What the heck do you think ought to happen — do you expect big company managers to constantly comparison shop or something? Workers find better paying jobs on their own or through friends. Empty jobs don’t get filled so employers offer more money. And what’s this crap about no one at a store has the authority to give raises? Where do you get such drivel? Some proggie talking point?
You're also full of shit if you think bosses don't rate their workers. You seem to want it both ways, that bosses are too stupid to pay attention, and that companies are evil bastards who pay too much attention.
There is always a reward for working hard and smart. If a boss doesn’t recognize it, if the worker asks for a raise and doesn’t get it, the worker gets annoyed and looks at the job market. What kind of people do you know that just sit around passively doing a crap job with a crap boss and never get off their butt to improve their situation? Why do you think it is the government’s duty to help people who won’t help themselves?
Fuck off, fake.
He's probably worked in a big box store some time within the last 35 years unlike the trust fund babies and welfare dependents that make up the Reason comment section with 18 hours a day to devote to explaining why Chuckie Koch needs 80 million 3rd grade educated spics to clean his pool.
Pretty much everybody employed by a Fortune 1000 company, which would be approximately 75% of the national labor force. See, when you've got 30 million 3rd grade educated spics available to do the shit work and 15 million undergraduate H1B educated pajeets available to do the middle class work there's not much point in asking for a raise since the marginal contribution of your harder or more productive work is dwarfed by the cost savings of just hiring 2 foreign slaves to replace you. That's why real wages have not risen since the 1970s, even factoring in DeRugy's point that we now get mandated employer-sponsored health insurance that costs 600% more now than it did in the 1970s with a third world level of care.
Luckily for DeRugy she's writing for an audience of pseudointellectuals whose terminal level of economic education was that 150 page epic tome that sarcasmic self-admittedly couldn't finish: Economics In One Lesson. It turns out sometimes you can benefit from a 2nd or 3rd or even 4th lesson.
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I have heard that monetary incentives aren't good for motivating workers to work harder anyway. They work for getting people in the door and keeping them from leaving, but motivation usually comes from other sources.
Seems to be an evergreen observation on the part of shitty employers who don't want to pay their workers more money while insisting we need hundreds of millions of third worlders to do the jobs that Americans don't want to do.
Yeah, because there are zero reports of companies offering wages above minimum wage (sometimes well above) and still not being able to hire enough workers. Oh, wait... See the signs in the window of pretty much every retailer since covid hit.
When you start from false facts, don't be surprised when you reach false conclusions.
He said, while making an utterly unsupported anecdote. If the plural of anecdote is not data what the fuck is the singular?
"The problem with your theory is that big companies don’t even try to outbid each other for low wage workers. They don’t rate their own workers on productivity, much less try to poach good workers from competitors. No one at a store level has the authority to give good workers a raise."
I see you've never been in a position of hiring help. Short and sweet, you're full of shit.
Cogent as always from the 80 year old social security and medicare recipient.
I don't see where in the article the title "Subsidies To Help Workers Would Hurt Poor People" is supported. I see an argument that a minimum wage raise would render them unemployable, and I see an argument that subsidies are unnecessary and would hurt the budget, and I see an argument that some poor people would have incentives to work more or fewer hours (which they are free to ignore), but I don't see anything showing how subsidies to workers would hurt poor people. (Minimum wage is not a subsidy; it's a mandate.)
Perhaps you missed two points; you are on the Reason site, and the article is by Veronique.
"I don’t see where in the article the title “Subsidies To Help Workers Would Hurt Poor People” is supported..."
Some proofs are left to the reader; where do you think subsidies come from?
Wow. A piece by VDR without the usual "YOU WERE MEAN TO TRUMP WHICH MEANS YOU'RE A LEFTIST" drivel. Asshats must be on vacation.
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"Strain notes, for instance, that when measuring someone's pay, it is essential to use total compensation as opposed to only wages. If one fails to include fringe benefits, one fails to capture what is today one-third of workers' pay."
Uh, really? Here's what Strain has to say: "Indeed, non-wage compensation has risen as a share of total compensation from around 14% in the 1970s to around 19% today."
I think you need new glasses. doc.
Here's something else Strain said: "Earnings subsidies should be expanded to draw more people into the workforce."
More misrepresentation from "Reason"! Oy vey, oy vey, oy vey!
Is it fair to also include additional costs due to regulation? Those are funds that could have otherwise been paid out to employees.
Economists on the right tend to focus on the benefits to consumers, forgetting that consumers are also workers. Those on the left focus on workers, forgetting that workers are also consumers.
Right, increases in pay to workers mean increases in prices to consumers. It's largely a shell game. The only way anyone gets ahead is by making things more efficient so that they become more affordable.
Remember, in Progressive “economics”, concepts like wages and jobs are purely social-political parameters that have no connection to MAGA ideas like productivity, prices, revenue, and profit.
"A Congressional Budget Office study suggests that raising the minimum wage would cause more workers to lose than to gain."
Citation please!
"those already in the labor force may face incentives to reduce their work hours."
That's not how EITC works. The benefits taper as you make more money so that people actually do earn more for working more.
That was my understanding as well. Perhaps the phasing out should be more gradual?
I've never understood why we don't replace most of our welfare safety net with a negative income tax that at least requires someone to work to gain the benefit while also eliminating the minimum wage (or reducing it to a very low number). By targeting to household income, that means only those who need it get it (my 16 yr old son doesn't "need" a living wage, he has a job to teach him responsibility and keep in busy when he isn't in school). It strikes me better than an UBI in that it incentivizes work. It is better than "benefits" (section 8, foodstamps, headstart, etc...) because it gives the individual the ability to prioritize and maximize the use of their resources. I think this was Friedman's idea back in the 50's or 60's (perhaps it wasn't original with him), and my recollection is that it never went anywhere because of the administrative challenges. If that is the case, then it seem like an idea worth revisiting.
Productivity increases means getting more output per unit of labor. Certainly productivity can increase through an individual worker’s diligence or increasing skill, but productivity increases are more often a result of automating a job further - a decision made by management. Some workers may be displaced, but those who remain may earn more. A backhoe can dig a lot more ditch than a team of ditch diggers with shovels, but the backhoe operator (who may have once been a ditch digger) probably earns more by virtue of knowing how to run a backhoe.
Some activities lend themselves more to automation than others. With the invention of washing machines and vacuums likely hotel maids of the 1950s were much more productive room cleaners than the maids of 1900, but are the maids of today much more productive than those of the 1950s?
No one seriously denies that minimum wages don’t prevent people from being hired, else they’d all argue for $100 per hour or even more. What they think is that more people will be helped than hurt, and they’re willing to cause that hurt on the assumption that they’ll somehow take care of them later. So, minimum wage advocates seek that pain point where they’ve gone too far. That’s the point at which white youths start becoming unemployable instead of just black youths.
There is no reason except greed and hate that prevents the minimum wage from being $100/hr. Some may argue that many people would/might lose their jobs if an employer had to pay $100/hr. (plus benefits) to employ them. That could be handled by a lower universal basic income guarantee of $180,000/yr. ($15,000 each month). After all there should be some additional reward for working at a minimum wage job than just ass-sitting at home. Poverty would be banished. Price controls could prevent prices or goods and services from increasing, backed by suitable, severe penalties. What could go wrong?
Now, let’s talk about the tax rates upon those who do work that would be necessary to support this program, unless you are so crass - such a hater - as to suggest the UBI amount should be subjected to income tax?
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It’s not just productivity that produces higher wages, but skill and hard labor.
If a 16 year old can learn a task or job in 5 minutes, that’s a minimum wage job. A machinist, plumber, electrician, pipe fitter or iron steel worker are not minimum wage jobs. The harder the work, the higher the pay.
America has always had fast food jobs at minimum wage. Wages are much higher in skilled or grueling blue collar jobs. For whatever reason, in 2022, progressives believe that a fast food deep fryer job should be able to raise a family of six, on one salary.
This is where Democrats are losing blue collar workers. They’re pittting the guy that gets up at 5am, does grueling labor, is in a high tax bracket against the part time deep fryer getting cash back from the taxpayer that happens to be the hard laborer.
The republicans will continue to poach high skilled laborers.
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Politicians aren’t interested in helping workers, they are interested in helping themselves.
For Democrats, making workers more miserable and more government dependent helps them. That’s all you need to know about why they pursue the policies they pursue.
For lolbertarians, making workers more poor and unable to seek alternatives to their serfdom helps them. That’s all you need to know about why they pursue the policies they pursue.
See how easy it is to beg the question? Of course this construction as least has the benefit of being true.
That may be easy, but it is not logically coherent.
Libertarians don’t get elected by poor and government dependent voters. Therefore, it doesn’t help libertarian politicians to create more such voters.
Democrats do get elected by poor and government dependent voters. Therefore, it is in their interest to create more such voters.
So, your “construction” is simply false. Try again.
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