Biden Signs Respect for Marriage Act Into Law
Federal recognition of same-sex marriage is now officially on the books and no longer dependent on the Supreme Court.

This afternoon, President Joe Biden formally signed H.R. 8404, the Respect for Marriage Act, into law.
In a White House ceremony on the South Lawn, Biden was joined by several hundred LGBT activists and supporters and preceded by speeches from Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D–N.Y.) and House Speaker (for a few more weeks) Nancy Pelosi (D–Calif.) and musical performances from the likes of Sam Smith and Cyndi Lauper. The president took note of the historic moment.
"Deciding whether to marry and who to marry is one of the most profound decisions a person can make," Biden said, repeating some of the same sentiments that garnered media attention back in 2012 when he broke from President Barack Obama as vice president in support of recognition. "Marriage is a simple proposition: Who do you love? And will you be loyal to the person you love? It should not be more complicated than that. Everybody should have the right to make that decision for themselves, without government interference."
The Respect for Marriage Act definitively writes into law federal legal recognition of same-sex and interracial marriages. They are the law of the land as it stands, but concerns that a future Supreme Court might undo recent precedents that mandate recognition led to the negotiated development of this act, which passed the House earlier in the year and the Senate in November.
In a nutshell, the Respect for Marriage Act declares that the federal government will recognize a marriage between two people that was performed in a state where that union is legal, regardless of the sex, race, ethnicity, or national origin of the participants. It does not require that states legally recognize same-sex marriage on their own. (Some states have bans that could potentially become active again should the Supreme Court's precedents be overturned). It does, however, require states to recognize legal marriage contracts from other states.
The Respect for Marriage Act also specifies that religious organizations, churches, temples, mosques, and the like cannot be forced to provide services or accommodations for the solemnization of any marriage. And it also promises that the bill does not require or authorize polygamous marriage.
What the bill does not do is address any of the current conflicts over whether private businesspeople like bakers or florists (among others) can be forced to serve same-sex couples despite any religious objections to same-sex marriage. And it doesn't address any conflicts over whether religious-based organizations could be required to serve or employ people who are in a same-sex marriage. It was a point of criticism of the bill from religious conservatives, but as I noted before, there currently is no political compromise tenable in that area that would be embraced by enough Republicans or Democrats to pass. Instead, a bill that affirms the poll-supported status quo was enough to draw in enough Republican support to avoid a Senate filibuster and pass.
And so, even if the Supreme Court revisits and decides to strike down its precedent in Obergefell v. Hodges (and to be clear, there's no pending case on the docket that would), same-sex marriage will still have federal recognition. And ultimately, this is the right way to do it. Lawmakers coming together and passing legislation supported by a majority of Americans is preferable to hoping for a group of Supreme Court justices to decide what the rules of marriage are and should be.
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What the bill does not do is address any of the current conflicts over whether private businesspeople like bakers or florists (among others) can be forced to serve same-sex couples despite any religious objections to same-sex marriage. And it doesn't address any conflicts over whether religious-based organizations could be required to serve or employ people who are in a same-sex marriage.
If I'm reading this correctly you're saying that freedom of association doesn't include the right to say no to someone unless you decide it's ok.
That's not very libertarian.
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Long as I can shoot them if they refuse, fine with me.
I'm pretty sure that counts as force.
WTF?
No, no one should be forced to leave their property. So what is your "Gotcha?"
Is this one of those things where you say there should be no government coercion, and that's OK because everyone will be so glad that they'll voluntarily never commit coercions of their own?
You know one of those political philosophies that comes with a pacifier and blanky?
That includes being forced to build Nazi war machines too, right?
And by the way, Europeans of all nations, Jews and Non-Jews alike were forced to labor in Nazi war factories, so you may want to broaden your lack of empathy by a pretty wide swath.
Where the fuck in the Constitution, or any derivative penumbras, does it grant government the power to administer marriage?
The constitution doesn’t allow them to do a lot of things.
They just make shit up.
Commerce Clause is Mister Fantastic in disguise.
No. No. No. Mr. Fantastic and The Commerce Clause is the money-making Marvel Universe. This is the DC Universe, where Elastic Man and Full Faith and Credit are part of The (Social) Justice League.
Please stop. You're going to give me nightmares.
No, no one should be forced to leave their property. So what is your "Gotcha?"The The Full Faith and Credit Clause of the Constitution is an explicit part of the Constitution, not a comic book character in your imaginary Multiverse, silly.
The 9th and 10th amendments leave it to the several States. It is not valid federal legislation.
"The 9th and 10th amendments leave it to the several States. It is not valid federal legislation.'
Nor was 0bergefell a valid ukase.
Wouldn't the nation be a wonderful place if they imposed the death penalty for anyone violating their oath to defend and preserve the Constitution.
They'd have to execute everyone in government many, many, many times over.
I think you’re incorrect. Congress does have the right to say the Federal Government can recognize the validity of marriages formed within the States (and places where it has primary jurisdiction such as DC) for purposes of Federal Law (such as Income Taxes honoring marriage). It also can require the states to honor the full faith and credit clause if the states refuse to do so.
The only place I can see where it might be is in the "full faith and credit" thing. But at most that means states would have to recognize marriages from other states. I don't think there is any reason the Feds have any power to dictate to states how their own marriage laws must work or that they must officially recognize gay marriages or any marriages at all.
Yeah, the only constitutional part is the requirement for states to recognize valid gay marriages from other states. . . . which the Constitution already required.
But apparently we live in a world where Congress passes laws that say they have to follow the Constitution.
which the Constitution already required.
Even at that, I would put the likelihood of any given state being able to legislate that two gay people are married only within the confines of their vehicle while travelling through the state at 0.
I can't really complain about congress passing laws specifying how provisions of the constitution are enforced or implemented. But this law would appear to go beyond that.
As of the Fourteenth Amendment, State Constitutions can have more enumerated rights than the Federal Constitution, but cannot have less. Marriage between any two parties of any sex is now Federally enumerated and official, so therefore I would say that applies to States too, even if The Respect For Marriage Act leaves that blank.
Are you related to the Bushes. You called the Full Faith and Credit Clause a "thing." 😉
Here's the real "thing":
If a State recognized same-sex marriages from other States but did not recognize same-sex marriage within it's own State, wouldn't it be practicing unequal justice before the law and thust violate The Fourteenth Amendment?
Serious answer. I don't do that often.
Taxation. Individuals and married couples are taxed differently, presumably because couples are supposed to make babies. Thing is, same sex couples can't. None of them. Not a one. So if same sex couple are to be recognized as marriages, then that difference in taxation doesn't matter anymore. The best solution is to just get marriage out of the tax code. Then it won't matter.
They can adopt. Is the purpose of marriage to raise kids or to birth them?
The tax benefits for children are distinct from the tax benefits of marriage. Old folks get married. Young folks raise kids and still get the tax benefit long after the kids have moved out.
There are additional benefits for having kids, on top of the ones put in place assuming that's what couples do.
Think about when the rules were originally made and who made them.
I think we’re asking the wrong question. The right question is should the government give domestic partnerships special tax status? Should I couple up with someone to save on taxes?
Edit: I happen to enjoy the lothario lifestyle. Why should couples who settle down get a tax break?
Marriage is about the adults in the relationship - for whom there should be fucking nothing in the tax code re that relationship.
Guardianship is about the kids - and I have no problem structuring the tax code so that kids are less likely to become wards of the state if/when something happens to the adults who have been their guardians
This is the core point about marriage. Although at this point I don’t see any possibility of reining it in.
Marriage should be a voluntary association that has no benefits or penalties from the government. At most it should be a civil contract between parties, but it definitely doesn’t belong in the tax code.
The easiest way to accomplish this would be to eliminate joint returns of any kind. I just don't see that happening.
Is the purpose of marriage to raise kids or to birth them?
KBJ: I don't know what you're talking about.
Gorsuch: Asking that question violates equal protection.
In ancient times, marriage was about merging and expanding feifdoms and kingdoms and getting HUGE...tracts of land! 🙂
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I think that the difference in the taxation based on marital status as opposed to the additional benefits for having kids (dependents) is based more on the somewhat old-fashioned notion that the man would be working full-time, and the woman would not.
She would be expected to either be working part time or as a full-time homemaker, which would make her a pseudo-dependent.
But, I think that your assessment that those rules could change or go away is still valid. What if you have a live-in roommate or sibling or significant other who doesn't work? Shouldn't you be able to claim them as part of your household?
The rules imply sex. If you're married then it's ok to have sex. Lots and lots of sex. It's what you're supposed to do when your married.
Granted not all marriages have sex blah blah blah cohabitation that doesn't explicitly include sex (because if you're married you're supposed to be having sex) isn't worthy of special tax status.
No sex, no dice. Why?
Mutual masturbation is not sex.
Homosexuals pretending to be married can't have sex, thus can't consummate the union.
No consummation, no marriage, regardless of what the Congress or the Supreme Court says.
There are Heterosexual marriages with partners that do not consummate, nor have children as a result of consummation. My late Aunt had two marriages without children. Are those marriages invalid?
Biologically maybe.
Evolutionarily invalid, but valid in a socio-religious sense?
I mean legally valid, which retiredfire and others seem to imply that they are not.
Oh, and yes, mutual masturbation can be sex for people of any sexual orientation.
Mutual masturbation is not sex.
That's what my scoutmaster said...
You do know that you can do Scout-like activities without uniforms, formal organization, and falderal about God, right? 😉
Sure, but you're more likely to get caught.
And let's not forget that God will smite us for this.
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The rules imply sex. If you’re married then it’s ok to have sex. Lots and lots of sex. It’s what you’re supposed to do when your married.
Someone's never been married...
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The best solution is to just get
marriage out of the tax coderid of the income tax. Then it won’t matter.Fixed That For Ya.
That is an excellent idea, and it is in the LP platform. The individual income tax is a capitation tax. But corporations (artificial persons) entitlement to rights is nowhere provided by the Constitution. The thing was smuggled into jurisprudence where it lodged like a tapeworm. So the individual income tax could by jurisprudence be removed from the IRS code and corporations still be allowed to subsidize Karl Marx instead of Americans.
As I recall, Dr Phil once said something like “the best environment for a child to grow up in is with both biological parents”. So, if a community wants to ensure its future, then that should be its goal for its children. And that, I think, is the origin of marriage.
Any sentence that starts with "Dr. Phil said" can and should be ignored. It is likely to make you dumber.
Was that just a general statement, or do you believe specifically that children growing up with both their biological parents is NOT the best environment for them?
Depends how shitty the parents are. If dad spends all day boozing and beating on mom, not a good environment. If mom spends all day while dad is at work doing blow and random dudes she found on tinder...also not so good. Parenting is more than the ability to have sex with opposite gender in a relationship and popping out kids. But of course we all know that. In the majority of cases, it is likely both parents raising kids is preferable. In the minority of cases, it is another step in the cycle of poverty abuse and neglect contributing to those kids' eventual shitty future relationships and having their own kids that continue the cycle once again. Inter-generational dysfunction is a real thing.
Great. Now girl-bullying Grabbers-Of-Pussy will be swarming out of the woodwork to defend wife-beating. Reason is the only place that hasn't banned them. But there is nothing wrong with Reason charging them the same subscription rates as National Socialist Review, for the sake of a balanced playing field.
Libertariantranslator: I don’t see the relevance of your post. Was it perhaps intended as a response to someone else?
windycityattorney: I agree. There will always be some exceptions, but I was speaking in general. I am particularly concerned about the future generations, as you have described.
Both. There is no inherent superiority to a child growing up with their biological parents. There is, however, an advantage to having two involved parents, regardless of biological relationship.
The level of involvement in the child's life seems to be the most significant. Having an absentee parent, be it from workaholic tendencies, military deployment, incarceration, etc. has a negative impact on the social and cognitive development of children. A single, involved parent is better than a married couple with one parent absentee. Maybe because the child doesn't expect the second parent to be present in a single-parent family, but in a two-parent family they know it is possible for the second parent to be there, they just aren't? Maybe because the single parent has a larger support network of relatives or friends who help with child rearing? Maybe something else?
A non-biological parent who is involved in a child’s life may be better than a biological parent who isn’t, but is a non-biological parent more or less likely to be involved?
However, I am concerned about the situation nowadays, as so many children are born outside marriage, many from short-term relationships with little commitment, even from one-night-stands, and there may even be a hostile relationship between the biological parents or their families, or the biological parents may just be living far apart. In such cases, we can expect far less involvement by the non-resident biological parent.
Setting aside the basis or motive for the disparate treatment, as a high earner married with children to a wife who doesn't work or earn much, I can tell you that marriage comes with penalties, also. If my Wife and I were divorced and she had primary custody, she and the kids would qualify Medicaid, HUD housing, food stamps, and all sorts of benefits that are based (perhaps idiotically, but nevertheless the case) on household composition/income and not upon non-custodial parent income. I see it all the time. NCP does just fine and CP and kids still qualify for tens of thousands in benefits. So, yea, I pay less in taxes on my income than I would if I were not married. But if I were unmarried, we as a family unit could recoup all of the difference in entitlements. I'm not saying that phenomenon has anything to do with the basis for the tax code, but it is a fact. What should happen, in my opinion, is that Medicaid and other entitlements/benefits should include both a household composition and a non-custodial parent component. And maybe it does in some jurisdictions. But not in my state, and my state is ruby red.
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Eh, this might be one of the rare valid uses of the Commerce Clause.
First, states do have the power to administer marriage because states retain general "police powers". That is, they maybe constrained by their own constitutions but they are not limited to the enumerated powers in the federal constitution.
And once a state does recognize a marriage, the Commerce Clause grants the feds the power to require other states to give "full faith and credit" to the first state's decision. The same clause probably gives the federal government the power to administer marriages in any federal (that is, non-state) jurisdiction.
The function of government is to defend liberty not issue marriage licenses.
Wonder why the full faith and credit clause does not apply to gun licenses...
welcome to the full picture not derived from blind partisan talking points..... having your marriage and concealed carry permit recognized by other states trying to find ways to reduce your freedom are BOTH good things. principles apply no matter what color the states in question are.
Indeed.
This law is just reinforcing the Full Faith and Credit clause as well as parts of the 14th Amendment.
Respect for marriage would mean not legislating anything and leaving it to individuals.
Marriage laws were originally backing up religion. Then once the government started handing out benefits like pensions, they defined marriage as an excuse to get spouses covered.
It's a scam from end to beginning.
Or it was law written about Husband and Wife that can by natures very law reproduce and create offspring. Government would be very wise to omit all 'marriage' status symbols from law due to it's heavy religious interference. That still doesn't make sodomy relationships the same as ones that actually create offspring.
OMGA!!! Oh My Government Almighty!!! Government Almighty has now APPROVED of gay marriages?!?! HOW will I EVER live up to my commitments and obligations to my wife, offspring, pets, fleas of the pets, and other assorted hangers-on, and love them and cherish them, when GAY COUPLES NEXT DOOR are POLLUTING the universal cosmic love-vibes with Magical Papers that pollute MY Sacred Commitments and MY Magical Papers?!?!? Holy Shiites, what NEXT?!?! Will they pollute MY sacred vows, by letting blacks marry whites, dog-lovers marry cat-lovers, and... OH THE HORROR!!! "Team D" devotees marry "Team R" devotees?!?!?
Government Almighty, PLEASE protect us all from ALL of this MADNESS!!!!
Go get a Civil Union or just STFU.
UR not *entitled* to a Gov Status Symbol just because you feel so *entitled* for being.
>>Marriage is a simple proposition: Who do you love? And will you be loyal to the person you love?
a marriage is not required to answer those questions.
And anyone is welcome to have a ceremony to solemnize whatever relationship they want.
word.
If marriage really were such a simple proposition, like whether or not to have coffee with someone, it wouldn't require licenses, witnesses, special legal disposition, divorce proceedings, custody hearings, alimony, etc., etc., etc.
Does it require all of those things, or is that just all the legal crap that has piled up around it? Witnesses are required in just about every tradition of marriage, but the rest I'll say aren't necessary. There is nothing to stop people from taking marriage seriously and trying to do it right without the force of law hanging over their heads.
Does it require all of those things, or is that just all the legal crap that has piled up around it?
Legally, there is no difference and you're a bigot to suggest otherwise.
That could all be done by contract.
I don't disagree. The problem is we unofficially have both a legal definition of marriage and a social one and the notion that either is a simple proposition is a lie. It could be a simple legal matter but that would involve... divorcing the two ideas.
But aren't law and culture supposedly intertwined? A union of the two that no man shall put asunder?
And will you be loyal to the person you love?
So, this law outlaws divorce?
Now starts the left's war on churches and other Christian institutions. Couples will go Bible-believing churches they have never attended and demand the pastor perform the marriage ceremony they could have done elsewhere. When the pastor refuses, they will sue and the government will back them up.
This will not end well.
Hello, brainless wonder-child, can ye READ?!?!? From the article:
"The Respect for Marriage Act also specifies that religious organizations, churches, temples, mosques, and the like cannot be forced to provide services or accommodations for the solemnization of any marriage. And it also promises that the bill does not require or authorize polygamous marriage."
Facts are optional on your planet, then, I take it?
Facts are optional on your planet freak-job. Sodomy does not produce offspring. RU to deny the entire premise of the 'marriage' symbol within the concepts of law wasn't about a husband and wife that would create offspring?
So sterile couples should have their marriage licenses revoked? How benevolent of ye!
That would sure clean-up the fake immigrant marriage scams now wouldn't it. And it would serve the law as it was written specifically for well.
All be; common-sense over "the world has to revolve around ME!!!"...
Is a childless marriage invalid? My late Aunt had two.
And both Heterosexuals and LGBTQ+, both married and unmarried, can and do engage in sodomy.
Facts.
By lawful intent there is absolutely ZERO validity to childless marriage. Yep; that is the Facts alright. Go get your 'marriage' from the church-of-sodomy and stop trying to write religious rules (law) for everyone.
There went all chance of Robert Rimmer or the FLDS backing that law.
You say that like some State could openly and entirely shut down and even fine churches and be told by SCOTUS that it’s OK as long as The Governor only 75% violates free association and abridges free speech above a certain volume or too openly (or rhythmically or in unison) and does it to everyone equally (despite equal protection not being the actual point of contention).
Didn't that, like already happen in 2020?
I hope they start at mosques.
From your mouth to nonexistent God's ears.
Religion is control. It depends on keeping people stupid. It's bad, wholly. Not a single redeeming quality, with the possible exception that it gets people to waste time building cool buildings. But it doesn't even do that anymore. Just herds you into variegated warehouses.
Stop being a sheeple. If there's some war, you'll be the side that deserves to lose.
Sure Tony.. Religious principles of thou shall not kill, thou shall not steal and treat others like you'd like to be treated etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc are soo stupid followed by sheeple minds...
Why the USA should pack around a Nazi(National Sozialist) religion premise were STEALING is way cool. Killing is just a side effect of the STEALING and gangland-politics. What a winner! F'En leftard.
You are assuming that Theism and religion is a synonym of morality and ethics.
This is especially absurd in the case of Abrahamic religions, since their God punished Adam and Eve for eating fruit from The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. This God wanted humans to be amoral robots.
No. That was Tony's assumption from the very start.
"Religion is control. It depends on keeping people stupid. It’s bad, wholly."
Way to deflect.
Now do the body count atheism has wrought on the world.
And how climate change really is NOT a religion, even though it has less factual basis behind it than almost any known religion in the world.
Bit to late to sell that BS after the "bake the cake" episode.
Sorry wrong reply box.
Communism and all flavors of Socialism and Collectivism have body counts. Atheism, as such by itself, does not have a body count, since Atheism is simply lack of belief in a God.
And if Theism has a lesser historical body count, it is only from lack of modern murdering technology. Nowadays, that no longer applies and either Putin or Ayatollah Khomeini or any other starry-eyed True Believer can wreak NBC warfare on billions in the name of their genocidal God.
Whether climate change is a threat to humanity or not, Theistic fanatics armed with NBC is a real threat.
Tony could at least recommend The Darkening Age, by Catherine Nixey, available on Amazon with addable audio by Lalla Ward.
"When the pastor refuses, they will sue and the government will back them up."
Your scenario is specifically addressed in the law and is not permitted. There are exceptions for churches and clerics.
in other words... you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about and did not read the article you chose to post on at all.
SCOTUS could find the newly passed law unconstitutional and overturn it. Enumerated powers and all.
They won't, but...
They could undermine the whole proposition by deciding against Public Accommodation in Elenis, especially in light of this law. If marriage no longer identifies a sex or an orientation, then discrimination against it is more critically free association/speech. Gorsuch is certainly capable of such legal and rhetorical backflips.
But, I believe you are correct.
"Federal recognition of same-sex marriage is now officially on the books and no longer dependent on the Supreme Court."
Funny Reason thinks legislated law is above the Constitution.
A sure tattle-tell sign of leftard brains at work.
It does, however, require states to recognize legal marriage contracts from other states.
Don't say 'What happens in Vegas'.
Equality is the lowest common denominator.
What if Utah legalizes polygamy? Does that mean the rest of the states have to as well?
Public WELFARE is what pollutes all of this! Let Utah "do their own thing", but PLEASE let me NOT be responsible for supporting the 45 babies of some dude with 7 wives!!!
https://www.religionnewsblog.com/9084/bleeding-the-beast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjOBP91kMCw
Monopolies (or near-monopolies) on the harems of women leads to constant fighting, elephant-seal-style. Let’s all fight over our harems! Every reproducing male will know all about how to grab the women, and no one will know how to be a good father any more! It’s not the direction towards which I’d like to see humans evolve towards, biologically, culturally, or otherwise.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_boys_(Mormon_fundamentalism) and especially https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/jun/14/usa.julianborger , concerning fundamentalist, polygamous Mormons discarding their young men, are good links to explore, to illustrate my just-above-made point.
Examples (of monopolizing the women) abound. David Koresh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Koresh and Mormon fundamentalists and “blood atonement” and Ervil LeBaron and his harem, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ervil_LeBaron.
I am trying to convert Plucky Squirrel to Church of the Almighty Dollar. It is Ayn Rand approved (Dagny was a chaser), it upholds values and defends virtues necessary to survival. The dollar is (thanks to Nixon's wars and recessions) totally faith-based, hence unassailable by mystical Republicans or their politicians and judges. Worship does not imply defense of legal-tender usurpations any more than the First Amendment forces people to accept the Baby Mohammed or Dead Jesus as their savior. Jon's model Band Constitution states that Constitutions can be received as religions and backed by units of energy. Wish me luck.
I can't read the greyed-out boxes in response to your post but, if I had to guess, I'd guess you lit the Misek beacon.
It's Squirrely showing off his ability to fuck up a wet dream.
ORLY? So no "ALL MORMONZ IS EVUL! GENOCIDE THEM GOOD!" Misek-speak?
Something about WELFARE, harems, and David Koresh. I couldn't follow it.
"ORLY? So no “ALL MORMONZ IS EVUL! GENOCIDE THEM GOOD!” Misek-speak?"
Hey Casually Mad, WHY do you keep on saying that the RIGHT thing to do, is to torture all of the innocent new-born Christian babies to DEATH, and then DRINK THEIR BLOOD?!?!?
(Wow, now you MUST acknowledge my mental and moral superiority, since I burnt down yer strawman GOOD AND HARD!!!!)
*fart*
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Ha ha. They already have my email.
Now let us ALL (we Morally Superior Ones) Sniff and Sneer at the mere "grey boxes"!!! Let us REFUTE what they say... By NOT READING what they say! (Me personally? I have read the contents of a few out of 1.14 BILLION web sites on the planet Earth, and so I, Mighty All-Knowing One, have REFUTED all of the rest of them... By NOT reading them!!!)
Casually Mad just spent ? 5 to 10 times (15? 20?) as much time and effort to announce Casually Mad's High and Holy Purity, in NOT reading an unclean comment, as it would have taken for Casually Mad to just go ahead and momentarily un-block the unclean one, and READ it, versus going off to Proclaim the High and Holy, Pure One's Superiority over unclean comments that CASUALLY MAD HAS NOT READ!!!!
I'm not High and Mighty enough to be 100% sure WHAT this says about the character of Casually Mad, but I have an EXTREMELY hard time believing that this says something GOOD about said character!
Posts like this make me want to put you on mute.
If'n ye chose to do so...
I’m not High and Mighty enough to be 100% sure WHAT this says about the character of sarcasmic, but I have an EXTREMELY hard time believing that this says something GOOD about said character!
(I mute the obvious commercial spam, and skip over the NON-muted morons, unless they REALLY piss me off, in which case I will try, now and then, to serve as an antidote to the POISONOUS self-righteousness that they willfully and stubbornly spread. And I can't do that if I mute them all. I do this as a pubic service. Ye'r welcome!)
Hi Tulpa.
Wow. That was nice. Screen is a lot clearer.
If you muted SQRSLY, yes, it is nice. And you miss so very little in doing so.
Hi Tulpa!
“Dear Abby” is a personal friend of mine. She gets some VERY strange letters! For my amusement, she forwards some of them to me from time to time. Here is a relevant one:
Dear Abby, Dear Abby,
My life is a mess,
Even Bill Clinton won’t stain my dress,
I whinny seductively for the horses,
They tell me my picnic is short a few courses,
My real name is Mary Stack,
NO ONE wants my hairy crack!
On disability, I live all alone,
Spend desperate nights by the phone,
I found a man named Richard (Dick) Decker,
But he won’t give me his hairy pecker!
Dick Decker’s pecker is reserved for farm beasts,
I am beastly, yes! But my crack’s full of yeasts!
So Dear Abby, that’s just a poetic summary… You can read about the Love of my Life, Richard Decker, here:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/10/11/farmers-kept-refusing-let-him-have-sex-with-their-animals-so-he-sought-revenge-authorities-say/#comments-wrapper
Farmers kept refusing to let him have sex with their animals. So he sought revenge, authorities say.
Decker the hairy pecker told me a summary of his story as below:
Decker: “Can I have sex with your horse?”
Farmer: “Lemme go ask the horse.”
Pause…
Farmer: “My horse says ‘neigh’!”
And THAT was straight from the horse’s mouth! I’m not horsin’ around, here, no mare!
So Richard Decker the hairy pecker told me that, apparently never even realizing just HOW DEEPLY it hurt me, that he was all interested in farm beasts, while totally ignoring MEEE!!
So I thought maybe I could at least liven up my lonely-heart social life, by refining my common interests that I share with Richard Decker… I, too, like to have sex with horses!
But Dear Abby, the horses ALL keep on saying “neigh” to my whinnying sexual advances!
Some tell me that my whinnying is too whiny… Abby, I don’t know how to fix it!
Dear Abby, please don’t tell me “get therapy”… I can’t afford it on my disability check!
Now, along with my crack full of yeasts… I am developing anorexia! Some are calling me a “quarter pounder with cheese”, but they are NOT interested at ALL, in eating me!!! They will NOT snack on my crack!
What will I DO, Dear Abby?!?!?
-Desperately Seeking Horses, Men, or ANYTHING, in Fort Worth,
Yours Truly,
R Mac / Mary Stack / Tulpa / Mary’s Period / “.” / Satan / Mother's Lament / sarcasmic
... AND bring back Comstockism and even import policy from Germany's new nationalsocialist party platform, all the way down to Lebensborn cages. The faith-addled mystics packing the Suprema Corte by impersonating originalists must surely strike down the 13th Amendment to again make room for Article IV Section 2 paragraph 3... the original language that settled the Dred Scott case.
I doubt they would. Giving up polygamy was a condition of statehood.
I did not know that. Thanks for polluting my brain with yet another useless fact. Jerk.
That was never a law but rather, an ethos and a great T-shirt and trinket slogan for the folks back home.
Somewhat on topic, Indonesia just outlawed sex outside of marriage.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11530551/Bali-officials-claim-tourists-fear-new-laws-criminalise-sex-outside-marriage.html
Where's the fun in a vacation if you go to jail for fucking your mistress?
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Can I marry my dog?
Can I marry 2 or more people?
Can I marry a gay cake?
If not, this act makes a mockery of marriage freedom.
Give the Woke(Retarded)-Religion time...
They'll get there because POWER to RULE is the pursuit within itself for those folks. So long as what they propose is so retarded there is objection; It'll become part of the power mad cow disease/religion.
The joke is on those who believed the left would be satisfied with the destruction of ?religious? institutions of husband and wife roles (actually ingrained in nature; not prejudices) when all along it was about POWER and nothing else. Conquer and Consume mentality......
Can I bake a gay dog?
I believe it was Robin Williams who urged people not to get their dogs stoned.
Please! No children, no dumb animals, and no inanimate objects are involved here!...Except, maybe your pin-on tail. 😉
The law most certainly does address religious freedom, it simply does so *inadequately.*
It would be one thing if they at least pretended not to address the issue. But they introduced it into the bill.
First, they have this in the preamble: “Diverse beliefs about the role of gender in marriage are held by reasonable and sincere people based on decent and honorable religious or philosophical premises. Therefore, Congress affirms that such people and their diverse beliefs are due proper respect.”
So in the law itself it admits that dissenters who uphold the man/woman definition are sincere and have honorable premises, *and* that their views are entitled to “proper respect.”
Then they enact their version of “proper respect,” which is – wait for it – allowing religious nonprofits to set their own standards for solemnizing marriage! And as if that weren’t concession enough, the lawmakers graciously agree not to repeal RFRA or the First Amendment.
What *else* doess “proper respect” mean? Apparently, it doesn’t specifically mean the right of a baker/florist/web developer/etc. to stay in business if they want to follow their beliefs about man/woman marriage.
It’s like telling the LGBTs that “we have proper respect for your right to your sexual practices, but we won’t specifically protect your right to have wedding ceremonies or hold hands in public.”
The respect the Woke-Religion Act.
Yup. Specific ambiguity. This is the Section 230 of Marriage and Religious Freedom. 10 yrs. from now: "We're not destroying social and religious institutions across borders, we've never been about that. You empowered us to defend marriage and religious freedom like Good Samaritans and that's just what we're doing."
"Then they enact their version of “proper respect,”"
Giving respect to sincerely held beliefs and surrendering liberty to them are two very different things. Your beliefs are only legally relevant to you. The moment you try to project them onto someone else you are putting your beliefs above that person's.
Precisely so. If you think you and your same-sex partner are getting married, you're entitled to that belief, but not to force others to cater (literally) to your beliefs.
I'm pretty convinced the only reason sodomy has to be 'marriage' is to cheat immigration law.
Is that how straight people use it? Or is it more some cultural drudgery on autopilot you are too small-minded to escape?
At any rate, everyone should have equal rights. Never having your small-mindedness challeneged is not the be-all end-all of rights available to us.
Typical leftard always feeling *entitled* to everything UN-EARNED.
There is no 'right' to get a government status symbol narcissistic Power-Mad freak job.
Immigration law pertaining to 'marriage' was written specifically for biological offspring not being split from their biological parents. So when your deviant sexual acts produce offspring; come back and see us. Till then a little humility in that narcissistic brain (I RULE) might do it some good.
i see you are trying to polish up your dumb fuck perspective to include some nonsense that marriage is only about the production of children.......
so, now it is only a religious thing... except that it is specifically for the production of children.... so much for visitation/next of kin/survivor-ship/medical proxy/dependent status/all the other shit that has been tied to marriage for thousands of years..... no, it is really "just" about something already documented separately on a birth certificate. (oddly, i have never heard "and i will bear him children" in any wedding vows..... ever....)
It all boils down to... There is no 'inherent' right to a government status symbol. That's the BS being sold by self-centered entitled imbeciles (turning rights into *entitle me*) making excuses on why their sodomy relationships has to be sanctioned by government....(Pull out the 9's and demand Respect my deviant sexual relationships)..
Respect the Woke-Religion Act.
On the other hand humanity needs a way to identify who the biological parents of offspring are. (A structure of husband and wife marriage). Yet; Power-mad freak-jobs who are entirely saturated with conquer and consume "special me" mentality want to destroy that entire premise.
Me, me, me, me, me, me, me.... YOU have to respect me, me, me, me, me and my deviant sodomy sexual acts....
On the other hand humanity needs a way to identify who the biological parents of offspring are.
You do know there are medical tests for that used every day on the 30 years of re-runs of The Maury Povich Show right? You do also know that there are legal mechanisms of assuring child support, right?
You were doing so well in articulating the Pro-Choice position. Now you're completely off the rails. What the Hell, Man?
It's EXACTLY the same thing.
Pro-Life wants to DICTATE their religious rules.
Pro-Sodomy want to DICTATE their religious rules (over logical premises).
Pro-Sodomy would be a different case if it was lobbying for a Civil Union.
Pro-Life would be a different case if it was lobbying for Fetal Ejection over intentional killing.
you just go further off the tracks the more you try.....
so.... if marriage is just a "government status symbol," then why do you care at all if gay people get it? your arguments are so fucking stupid, they contradict themselves repeatedly.
just a government status symbol.... religious... a way to determine the exact same thing that goes on a birth certificate... (and, apparently you are too stupid to know that marrying a person gives you absolutely no parental rights over their children..... kind of exposing what a BS lie that latest edition is.)
if marriage is just a “government status symbol,” then why do you care at all if gay people get it?
BECAUSE sodomy doesn't fit the legal premise/reasons used to write laws surrounding 'marriage'. Gays are trying to RE-WRITE all legal intentions by RE-DEFINING WORDS.
That is common F'En sense... What's really appalling is why government sanctioned 'marriage' (symbol) is so important. I only come up with (2) reasonable solutions. Either it's to cheat immigration laws original intent (word redefining for law re-writing) or to use Gov-Guns and FORCE the masses to follow the Woke-Religion of sodomy-marriage.
Yet; all along those pitching this insanity are 100% claiming that if they can't write the legal definition of 'marriage' then it's religious oppression. Using the 'poor' me BS to *entitle* themselves to something they do not belong to because of NATURES LAW itself and FACTS. For the party of FACTS means everything under the sun; they sure don't get the FACTS when they want to *entitle* themselves to Gov-Gun usage in a manner it wasn't written to be used for.
(oddly, i have never heard “and i will bear him children” in any wedding vows….. ever….)
Ooofff! Very good point! I never thought of that! My hat's off to you for that one!
Butt fucking being legally recognized is even less of a concern.
I will ask my previous question a different way: What legal justification exists for any government agency to regulate marriage? And what philosophical basis is there for any societal interference in marriage through government?
There is none.
The government should not be involved in any voluntary relationship between people. If two people say that they are married, that’s good enough. From then on, it’s a contract issue.
We can't get there from here. Thousands of laws and regulations would have to be repealed.
Sounds good to me.
From your lips to God's ears.
the broadest explanation is that marriage conveys other societal rules that non married people do not get. ability to visit in a hospital and make medical decisions if they are incapacitated, spousal rights of inheritance when one dies, spousal testimonial privilege, insurance options..... and that is before you ever get to any of the benefits that can be described as "government created" like tax benefits.
basically, marriage is an institution that carries legal and societal benefits. the question is not if there is any role for society to set the parameters for marriage, it is what are the limits of that role.
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Can someone keep track of the attendees of the signing ceremony? I wonder how many will be arrested in the next few years as pedos? The Federal Govt has no authority in deciding what marriage is or who is allowed to engage in it. It is a state's prerogative. The rise of pedo/MAP in almost every institution and sexual mutilation of kids pushed by the "T"s is next on the acceptance menu
pedo/MAP
Everybody is fine with you just calling them pedophiles except pedophiles and the people defending pedophilia.
LGBTQIMAP+
The church was fucking kids for centuries and you didn't say a goddamn word.
Public schools routinely do so NOW and you do not seem to care.
You also do not seem upset that people are trying to claim that all gay folks are pedophiles, something few straights believe.
"Public schools routinely do so NOW"
Public schools do no such thing. Unknowingly hiring people who are pedophiles isn't on the public schools unless they actively hide, excuse, and shield pedophiles or help them evade prosecution. The Catholic Church (actually multiple conservative churches), on the other hand, have always done it and are continuing to do so. So did the Boy Scouts, although I believe they have finally stopped doing it.
Public schools don't do that.
"people are trying to claim that all gay folks are pedophiles"
People aren't. Cultural conservatives are. And it is disgusting and reprehensible.
"Public schools do no such thing. Unknowingly hiring people who are pedophiles isn’t on the public schools unless they actively hide, excuse, and shield pedophiles or help them evade prosecution."
They DO. Regularly. Send them to different schools. Some states have their "padded rooms" they send teachers who have molested kids can still be paid and not be near kids. This is not unknown information.
"People aren’t. Cultural conservatives are."
Very much the opposite. Conservatives aren't the ones claiming banning grooming is an anti-LGBT thing instead of a, you know, anti-pedophilia thing.
"They DO. Regularly."
You'll have to provide some evidence of systemic wrongdoing. Are school systems conspiring to hide and relocate pedophile teachers? No, that has never been shown to be true. It's not the Catholic Church or the Boy Scouts or the Sputhern Baptists or the Mormons or the Jebovah's Witnesses or ... you get the point.
"Conservatives aren’t the ones claiming banning grooming "
Cultural conservatives aren't trying to ban grooming. Nothing they have done would impact grooming in the slightest. Do you really think that preventing teachers from talking about gay and trans people has any impact on "grooming"? Are you truly that ignorant?
It doesn't, because talking about gay and trans people isn't grooming. Gay and trans people are not, as a group, groomers any more than straight people are. Grooming is an individual behavior unconnected to sexual identity or gender.
Cultural conservatives are willing to follow their irrational biases into whichever fever swamp the latest charlatan chasing power directs them to. A bigger bunch of credulous rubes and easy marks has never existed in American politics. If you believe the Don't Say Gay bill is an anti-grooming bill, you idiots will believe anything.
But they weren't marrying them, so "celibacy" in its originalist splendor was preserved. Back when conservative infiltrators took the Roe v Wade language out of the 1980 LP platform, another team of saboteurs inserted child-molesting planks. https://www.fortfreedom.org/b29.htm
Once again, an institution was captured, transformed, and ruined: https://mises.org/wire/how-state-seized-control-marriage
So... gay marriage is like double-secret legal now? Was the previous decade something that happened to other people?
Yes, but sitting Supreme Court justices have indicated a willingness to overturn Obergefell.
As it should be.
There is no 'inherent' right to claim a Gov Status symbol.
Rights are NOT *entitlements* to Gov-Gun usage..
The Respect the Woke-Religion Act should be thrown out on Constitutional grounds as religious legislation.
Could you try, just once, to write in coherent English that other people can understand?
Again, under full faith and credit, you are gay married within the confines of your own vehicle while travelling through the State of RI, but gay marriage is no-shit illegal in, even with duly-issued permits from any home states, CT, NY, MA, and NJ.
Can't have filthy, white-supremacist, hoplosexuals like Kyle Rittenhouse just thinking they can traipse across state lines to troll and harass local businesses any old time they please.
What the bill does not do is address any of the current conflicts over whether private businesspeople like bakers or florists (among others) can be forced to serve same-sex couples despite any religious objections to same-sex marriage.
That's because the Constitution already secures individuals rights to property and freedom of association, and those apply to the states as well. The "cake baking" laws currently being challenged (and the underlying falsehood of public accommodation) never should have been passed and every legislator associated with them should be impeached for violating their oaths to their respective Constitutions and the activists who advocated for them should be ostracized.
Where does the constitution confer a right to property and association?
If you're just going to make shit up, then why not accept the Civil Rights Act of 1964 as constitutional, as it has been found time and again? I grant you, the current court might find its own brand new made up shit in the constitution. They've been on a tear lately.
Life is better with a living constitution that can bend to practical and moral reality. Only vile people don't celebrate the CRA as landmark humanitarian legislation that advanced the species to a better place. If we must do without such laws, what good is the constitution?
The 1964 CRA written by Democrats that advanced the concept of treating private property like public property... Because that's what Democrats do; STEALS things by claiming ownership (i.e. public). As did every Communist and Socialist nation.
Democrats constant and predictable approach to turn the USA into their Nazi(National Sozialist)-Empire.
Property rights are protected under the 5th and 14 th amendments, and association under the 1st. Now stop being an ignoramus.
That very much depends on what you mean by property rights. The constitution puts specific limits on what government can do to your property, but in doing so says exactly when government may violate your property. So it's a nuanced right, like rights tend to be.
Constitutional democracy is like nuclear energy. The correct question is "what good is it compared to something else?" When the "something else" was East German Democratic Communism, that question was answered.
https://twitter.com/ChristinaPushaw/status/1602851987820797953?t=xbZaGhALMYNUwB8oEykfYA&s=19
This is what he said at an event that was supposed to be about same-sex marriage? If I were gay, I’d be livid that this addled fool is claiming that child mutilation is somehow connected to gay rights. Come on, man!
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Lemme get this straight. The world's major religions a) impose strict gender assignments on children (on punishment of death), b) mutilate children's genitals, and c) institutionally fuck children...
...and now you're suddenly upset about these things?
So, what you're saying is that you have always been in favor of clitoridectomy, priests raping boys, and sexism, and now you should be praised for your consistency because you also favor the horrors of sex reassignment?
Yes. Now that libertarian spoiler votes have since 2016 seriously unseated christianofascist bigots from the power to send men with guns to impose their will by threat of deadly force, you bet your ass they are suddenly upset. NOW they want to get rid of libertarians elected to election commissions, block our ballot access, uncount our votes, infiltrate our party with street commies and anarcho-fascist whackos... Whatever it takes they are determined to do for Jesus and Mohammed.
Congratulations to Mr. Shackford, I suppose. The Democrats have now established his religion as the official one for the United States.
"Marriage is a simple proposition: Who do you love? And will you be loyal to the person you love? It should not be more complicated than that."
What interest has the state/society to regulate relationships based on that? The Left has defined marriage down into something useless to the larger society, merely an expression of erotic love.
I see a lot of comments that suggests that the Federal Government has no place in regulating marriage. I have to wonder if these same comments were raised when the DOMA was passed in 1996?
Like it or not marriage is interwoven into our government rules and so laws like RFM are necessary. Tax code is the obvious interweave, but there are plenty others. Think of zoning laws that require single family occupancy.
Marriage is a social convention, and we could remove it from its government entanglements but that's more work than most people want to do. So, let's just leave things as they stand now.
So spake the Presbyterians regarding slavery laws before 1860.
But the Republican Party and many others were not looking to end slavery in 1860. Only to contain it and that started the war to end slavery.
Likewise, as same sex couples asked for the same government treatment as married couple the push back to deny this led to more acceptance of same sex unions.
"I see a lot of comments that suggests that the Federal Government has no place in regulating marriage. I have to wonder if these same comments were raised when the DOMA was passed in 1996?"
to add to this point... while DOMA did seek to supersede state laws on marriage, this act actually does not and does not define marriage in any way. all this law says is that if two people get married under the laws of any state, other states have to recognize them as married. (something we should not actually need a law to do, because of the fair credit clause, but that is where we are.)
My utopian model would not have marriage specifically recognized in law, at least at first. But it would have freedom of contract. Presumably, many people, particularly those with religious or cultural traditions, would draw up marriage contracts.
Then eventually government would find it convenient to have a form contract with standardized marriage rights and obligations, which people could tweak as they will then print out and sign in front of a lawyer or priest. That's all just the bureaucracy of life.
The only downright unjust business is deliberately excluding some people from obtaining these contracts because of how they were born.
The new law is intended to safeguard gay marriages if the U.S. Supreme Court ever reverses Obergefell v. Hodges, its 2015 decision legalizing same-sex unions nationwide. It also protects interracial marriages. In 1967, the Supreme Court in Loving v. Virginia struck down laws in 16 states barring interracial marriage.
https://worldabcnews.com/exclaiming-todays-a-good-day-biden-signs-bill-protecting-same-sex-and-interracial-marriage/
So what it does is reduce the power of States to use the threat of deadly force to violate individual rights. This is what the Libertarian party does. This is what using spoiler votes to WIN elections by changing laws looks like. The brinish tears of frustrated mystical fanatics are the icicles on the Christmas Tree.
So Congress can now restore the Roe v Wade curb on coercive religious Comstockery. This is way overdue. Then again, postponing it will help us get rid of Republican National Socialist candidates until defenestration is perfected. Either way, individual rights and freedom from coercion win.
Damn. I was so looking forward to Thomas penning the opinion overruling Loving v. Virginia, throwing in some dicta about all the pussy he plans to get now that he is single again, and mic-dropping into retirement. Looks like he’s stuck with her absent a divorce, and there ain’t no way he’s leaving that shit up to another judge.
Once again, the government is doing redundant, meaningless bullshit so all the barking seals can get up there and virtue signal their approval as a distraction from harm that disastrous democrat policies have caused.
Ah! Right on cue... Speaking of the brinish tears of frustrated girl-bullying mystical bigots... Glitter, icicles.... glitter!
Two wrongs don't make a right.
So 50 years after the LP got a woman the first electoral vote, our original plank to decriminalize "voluntary sexual relations" is--after millions of spoiler votes made it so--the law of the land. Our other original plank: "We further support the repeal of all laws restricting voluntary birth control or voluntary termination of pregnancies during their first hundred days" ought now to be recognized as required by 9A of the Bill of Rights and the Reconstruction 13A outlawing involuntary servitude. This would eliminate the incentive for German National Socialist Race-Suicide fanatics to infiltrate and subvert the Libertarian Party into an instrument of religious fascism.
Prediction: This law will get challenged. The SCOTUS will use this as an opportunity to strike down the law and overturn Obergefell v. Hodges and push marriage law back to the States.
It'll get challenged, sure, and lose all the way up to and including the Supreme Court, which would decline to hear an appeal - but with a note that Thomas would hear it.
I think Alito would vote to accept Cert, also. I agree that they would get nowhere trying to convince Kav, ACB, Gorsuch, or Roberts to get on board.
Are individuals freer now than they were before this legislation? Yes. That should be sufficient to generate approval here.
Note that "being upset over someone else being free" - as evidently some of the anti-libertarians here are - is not a fundamental consideration wrt liberty.
"freedom to" make the RULES vs "freedom from" government dictation. UR blindly confused and have no idea what Individual Liberty is (hint; It's inherent/preserved). NOT dictated by the Respect the Woke-Religion Act.
(1) "Federal recognition of same-sex marriage is now officially on the books and no longer dependent on the Supreme Court."
That's a distinction without a difference.
(2) "Marriage is a simple proposition: Who do you love? And will you be loyal to the person you love? It should not be more complicated than that. Everybody should have the right to make that decision for themselves, without government interference."
Can you marry an 11-year-old? Can you marry three 11-year-olds?
If the answer is "no," then this is all just a bunch of hyperbolic political bullsh*t.
Some people have more than just a bizarre tolerance for meaningless speechifying --- the actually encourage it.
"That’s a distinction without a difference."
Roe proved otherwise. Better safe than sorry.
"Can you marry an 11-year-old? Can you marry three 11-year-olds? If the answer is “no,” then this is all just a bunch of hyperbolic political bullsh*t."
Pedophilia, polygamy, and gay marriage are analogous? That's a bold and radical position to espouse.
Unless you are a cultural conservative. Then it's just another Wednesday.
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The "Respect for Marriage Act" is a meaningless political stunt performed by Democrats who want to erase their vote for DOMA from memory and pretend that they were "pro-gay" all along.
And people like Shackford clap like a trained seal.
Is it? Because Roe showed that you can't trust cultural conservatives to let other people make decisions for themselves.
If it's so empty and performative, why are cultural conservatives so angry? Is it that you can't even get support from Republicans for your culture war against gay people? Are you worried that freedom and liberty might break out?
Still selling *entitle me* to a status symbol as a right.
That is what is upsetting this Republicans.
Leftards have been playing this game all along. They don't even know what rights are.. They just want Gov-Guns to *entitle* them to everything.
Cultural conservatives have seen the slippery slope in action, and as Biden has made clear, this is a “step” in imposing progressive values even on religious institutions.
It is pointless because if SCOTUS can overturn their gay marriage ruling, they can overturn this law as well.
Traitor Joe voted for DOMA when he was a racist senator from Delaware, what changed for the big guy?
Nothing changed. Biden is a political opportunist who would likely gladly send people to extermination camps if it served his political career.
We can't trust cultural conservatives? I know because we can trust the shit out of cultural Marxists, right?
Cultural conservatives are a self-identified group and known quantity. Cultural Marxists are a fever dream of Nazis.
You are so full of shit you're a toilet.
Okay, name one cultural Marxist.
You.
Talk about religious tyranny!!!!
OMG.. I can't believe I don't have the Individual Liberty to Marry myself. Why do sexual deviants get more rights than me! This is so unfair! Just because I'm not in love with butt-holes means I get cut-off from "special me" Liberties that they get to enjoy... /s
Tomorrows - Respect the Woke-Religion Act.
Common Leftards; Thought you was all about Liberty.. Stand up for my rights! Demand everyone respects my Liberty to Marry myself!!! Chop, chop...