Nancy Pelosi Embodied America's Gerontocracy Problem
She was the beneficiary of a political system that limits opportunities for new ideas and new faces to rise.

Anyone who pays even a modest bit of attention to politics is probably aware that America is ruled by a group of leaders who likely would have been forced into retirement long ago in a more normal profession.
Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump were the oldest pair of major party presidential nominees in American history—until four years later when now-President Joe Biden and Trump took over the title.
But Biden, who is 79 years old, and Trump, 76, look a bit like young whippersnappers compared to the old folks who have been running the House Democratic caucus for the past few decades. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D–Calif.) is 82, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D–Md.) is 83, and Democratic Whip James Clyburn (D–S.C.), the third in command, is 82. All three have, thankfully, announced their intention not to seek reelection to the top leadership positions when the new session of Congress begins in January.
"The hour has come for a new generation to lead the Democratic caucus," Pelosi said Thursday on the House floor as she announced her plans to step aside.
Republicans have fewer long-long-long-term members in the House, probably in part due to rules that limit the tenure of committee chairs—encouraging them to retire if they can't move up into senior leadership roles—and in part due to a stronger anti-incumbency sentiment within conservative grassroots. But they've got plenty of longevity in the Senate, including the ancient Sen. Chuck Grassley (R–Iowa), who was just reelected to a new six-year term at age 89.
That so many of America's prominent political leaders are so long in the tooth is, on one hand, compelling evidence that we're living longer, healthier lives than ever before.
On the other, it also means that for the past several years, Congress has been unable to enact any substantial policy without the support of several people born during the Roosevelt administration. They're so old that rolling your eyes and dismissing them as "boomers" is inaccurate.
Living in a gerontocracy is no laughing matter. The lawmakers aiming to write legislation that will impose massive new regulations on technology companies often don't seem to know how their email works. It gets worse when they try to describe social media. But these decisions—and others made about climate change policy, for instance—will have huge ramifications for the future of the American economy.
It shouldn't be surprising that politicians are out of touch, but the real issue here is that Congress is increasingly unrepresentative of the country it supposedly runs. The average American is now a full two decades younger than the average member of Congress—who, at age 59, is a full two decades younger than the president and outgoing speaker of the House.
The widening gulf between the average American and his elected officials creates bad incentives for policy making. "Much of our gerontocracy seems not to want to perpetuate proper goods but rather its own particular advantages and desires. (See, e.g., how existing entitlement programs steal from the young to give to the old, the former of whom have long, in my experience, ceased to expect any such munificence when we ourselves retire)," wrote Jack Butler for National Review in July.
Pelosi, Hoyer, and Clyburn are not, of course, single-handedly responsible for this trend. But they are illustrative examples of a generation that was allowed to hold on to power for far too long—and the system that let them do it.
As Kevin Munger, a political science professor at Penn State who wrote a book about generational conflict, told New York magazine last year, gerontocracy appears to be a uniquely American problem. "If you look at other countries, they're not similarly controlled by older politicians. I think that the explanation here is the two-party system," Munger told New York's Eve Peyser. "[A multiparty system gets] young people involved in politics, voting, organizing, running things, organizational politics, [which] means that they are able to start accumulating institutional power."
In other words, America's tightly protected two-party system limits the opportunities for new faces and new ideas to rise through the ranks.
In fairness to Pelosi, her 19 terms and counting (she will remain in Congress next session, even though she is not running for a leadership post) and multiple terms as speaker of the House also speak to her reputation as a shrewd and ruthless politician. She became the first woman to become speaker in 2007, managed to remain the party's leader even after the Democrats got their "shellacking" in the 2010 midterms and after another round of losses in 2014, then became speaker for a second time in 2019. Through it all, she's been one of the party's most powerful fundraisers and has demonstrated a willingness to force moderate members to take tough votes, even when it would cost seats.
But she's hung around for too long—and so have Hoyer, Clyburn, Grassley, California Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein (89 years old), and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D–N.Y.), who has been in Congress for more than 40 years. Politics always lags behind culture, but the culture now moves faster than ever and the country is plainly not well-served by having so many elderly leaders.
Giving aging lawmakers the boot is ultimately the responsibility of the voters, of course. Term limits are an oft-proposed solution that has broad support in polls, is technically anti-democratic, but is potentially workable. A better idea would be a constitutional amendment setting a maximum age for lawmakers—which would be in keeping with the minimum ages for serving in the House (25), Senate (30), and presidency (35) already in place. Ensuring, for example, that no president is elected after age 65, no senator after age 70, and no member of the House after age 75 would be a perfectly legitimate limitation to impose.
Pelosi's tenure as speaker of the House is over. But the gerontocracy is still going strong.
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…. political system that limits opportunities for new ideas and new faces to rise.
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Oh the joy of new ideas and a legislature that’s busy busy busy for the people!
new faces to rise.
But her face has been pulled back up many times.
I've given you seventeen new faces since 2006! ~~Nancy
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My question too.
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It was strategic!
Also spelled "fucked up"
Boehm voted for Jorgensen.
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Yet, Boehm, you reluctantly voted for it.
Gerontocracy, corruption, elitist/aristocracy....there are a lot of problems she embodied. Hard to pinpoint which one was the worst, but gerontocracy was probably, while true, the mildest of her issues.
Very true. If she was still young she would be horrible.
I suppose we need to make room for new faces like Omar or AOC. Youth alone isn't any sort of fix and the Democrats insistence on keeping people in power forever is starting to work against them. Look who they have as potential candidates for President.
Citing Trump as a Republican oldie overlooks that his run for office in 2016 was his first foray into politics.
He wasn’t cited as a “Republican oldie”. He was cited as being old.
Hakeem Jeffries, who is apparently the frontrunner to replace here, is thirty years younger than Pelosi and has been in the House since 2013. Quite a change.
"I suppose we need to make room for new faces like Omar or AOC."
You young whippersnapper, you stole my joke.
I would have told the joke first, but I was too busy being old.
My vote is for congressional insider trading, but I can understand going with one of the other several options.
Living in a gerontocracy is no laughing matter.
Why do you think the world freaked out so hard over a pandemic that mostly killed the elderly?
Wrong as usual, Emma. The problem with Ms. Pelosi isn't her age, it's that she's a fucking leftist!
(You'd think a libertarian would see that... Reason is such a joke!)
Logically, there cannot be two or more problems with someone?
we need a constitutional amendment to set an upper age for president & congress. i propose 70 years old as the oldest you can be to run for office.
Term limits. It’s not supposed to be a career.
both are necessary
No they aren't. As someone mentioned below, I'd gladly vote Ron Paul over AOC. Term limits will mitigate the perceived age issue anyways.
We have term limits. They're called elections. Problem is as much with voters as with politicians.
It seems to be working well.
More problem with the politicians, IMHO.
Until the Dems & Reps, along with mass media, stranglehold of other party candidates not being able to campaign on equal footing is demolished, the voters will remain ignorant to better possibilities.
Would this be an issue if the 80+ y.o. Speaker of the House and the Majority Leader of the Senate were card-carrying libertarians?
Would be for me. I don’t want old, mentally slow, out-of-touch people running the government.
You have very little if any say in how you're governed, and that would likely remain the case no matter how spry the faces.
you'd think chance-wise alone one of them would have been cut down by covid ...
Oh, no way. They wore masks all the time. Safe.
'cause what it looks like in retrospect is they were always going to be protected from whatever it was they rained down on us ...
Prohibit government from initiating force and it really wouldn't matter who was elected they wouldn't have any power.
That's a great idea except that government, by definition, is the people who get away with initiating force because no one will stop them.
Because there's nothing in the Constitution specifically prohibiting it. I mean slavery is still constitutional.
No. It's because they have the last word in violence. That means they do whatever they want because no one will stop them. When was the last time a cop stopped another cop when they were beating someone to death? It's never happened. Not just in this country, but everywhere in the world. They always join in. Why? Because violence is power, and power is better than cocaine.
You can't stop government from initiating force because government is force. That's like saying quarterbacks can't throw a ball or cooks can't operate a stove.
I appreciate the thought, but when you factor in human nature it's an impossibility.
I'm not that old - middle aged. However, this is a retarded article. Old has nothing to do with the ideas and principles someone advocates. You want fresh young faces? What? AOC? Oooh! Maybe we could make SBF the Treasury Secretary! On the other hand, I couldn't imagine a better situation than if 87-year-old Ron Paul were the president.
Which brings us to "new ideas". There's this thing called the Pareto distribution. Most new ideas completely and utterly suck. Going back to some really old ideas - individual liberty, limited government, decentralization of power, federalism - that's a lot better in my book.
The world's oldest idea:
When Adam delved and Eve span,
Who then was the Gentleman?
Here's the gentleman.
This is a companion article to Reason's "give 16 yr old's the vote!"
From the late Truffaut film Small Change:
(L'Argent de poche)
"Of all mankind's injustices, injustice to children is the most despicable! Life isn't always fair, but we can fight for justice. If kids had the right to vote, they would have better schools. Life isn't easy. You must learn to be tough. I don't mean 'gangster-tough'. What I mean is having endurance and resilience. Time flies. Before long, you will have children of your own. If you love them, they will love you. If they don't feel you love them, they will transfer their love and tenderness to other people. Or to things. That's life! Each of us needs to be loved!"
Yes...just being a new face does not mean a person will change anything, and the "squad" is a perfect example, but the problem is that the longer one is in politics the more beholden they become. We need new election rules and new rules to stop gerrymandering and another political party would also be good, but getting 70 and 80 year olds to STFU!... is a good start.
I have a theory. Federal level, octogenarians. State level, younger. County level, younger still. If we want younger people at the federal level, the solution is clear. Eliminate one or more of the lower levels.
Now do classes.
How about eliminating one or more of the higher levels?
Carousel?
Like most of your bullshit: Worthless.
These old folks win their primaries over and over because they are endorsed by "the powers that be" because they deliver what said powers want. Younger folks wait their turn (King Charles III syndrome?) instead of revolting.
At least Pelosi remained mentally coherent, unlike the current poster boy for the gerontocracy.
Mostly.
https://rumble.com/embed/v1sx09g/?pub=ztma8
Pelosi is a drunk, you idiot.
-jcr
We used to talk about "safe districts" and one of the reasons gerontocrats are able to hold onto power for so long is that being elected from "safe districts" by yellow-dog Democrats ensures serial re-election under the two-party system. Fund-raising is a requirement for junior caucus members to get desirable committee assignments and chairmanships and also feeds into the power structure, making the Whip's job much easier. Coming from safe districts not only makes rising within the caucus power structure easier but becomes self-insuring for re-election back home. When Trump talked about draining the swamp it was obvious even at the time that he would not be able to even siphon off the scum at the top let alone drain the District of Columbia. But, to be fair, NO ONE could do that. Once again, the only way to eliminate the gerontocracy is to destroy the two-party system once and for all. And the only way to do THAT is proportional representation at-large in every state of the Union.
A randomly chosen house would destroy it faster. We use such a system for jury selection, and I don't believe juries typically divide themselves into opposing parties. If we're worried about random nobodies running our affairs, perhaps a senate could be elected by the house, elevating members who are capable and of proven worthiness.
“A randomly chosen house would destroy it faster.”
Just a statement, no supporting evidence.
“…perhaps a senate could be elected by the house, elevating members who are capable.”
Politicians electing politicians, JFC. How about we remove the aristocracy? Something about “a Long Train of Abuses” is a good start.
"Just a statement, no supporting evidence. "
There's no supporting evidence for this just a statement, either:
"And the only way to do THAT is proportional representation at-large in every state of the Union."
It's called spit--balling, blue-sky thinking, indulging in hypotheticals, running it up the flag poll, seeing who salutes. Got anything to add or just here to kvetch. (complain)
Let us all know when you have the mechanism in place to randomly select the Congress and amend the Constitution to allow appointment of the Senate, please. Meanwhile I'll pop some popcorn and watch the unfolding of the existential threat to democracy.
"Let us all know when you have the mechanism in place to randomly select the Congress"
What mechanism is used to select the jury? My advice, find that out and start from there.
"amend the Constitution to allow appointment of the Senate"
Right now I'm busy with the holiday season. Maybe next year.
I would add to the reforms to get rid of political gerrymandering that locks in incumbents. This would be less helpful for statewide seats and the Presidency, but would help with the House and state legislatures.
Agree with the sentiment, but it's almost impossible to get rid of gerrymandering. I believe "redistricting" is actually in the original Constitution of the United States of America. Given our bad luck with non-partisan independent appointed commissions handling such things in the past, are you really willing to replace gerrymandering with some sort of automatic computer-generated redistricting software to help perpetuate the two-party system?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoPu1UIBkBc
“I want you to know that also I will not make age an issue of this campaign. I am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent's youth and inexperience.” - Ronald Reagan
^ The perfect reply to the article
Reagan started developing dementia while in office. Not the best example.
Dementia or not, Reagan was completely right, and you are wrong to discriminate based on old age.
Seems to me that the solution to gerontocracy perpetuated by DeRps is a third party - let's tentatively call it Too Damn Old party. That could you know focus on generational issues from the perspective of the young and the long range - entitlements, debt, climate, etc. That would advocate precisely the sort of structural reforms that encourage turnover/new.
I propose two things.
One, you can't serve if you're old enough to get Social Security.
Two, you can't vote unless you're old enough to hold office.
Thoughts?
Hold an election. Arrest everyone who shows up to run.
Anyone who wants the job shouldn't have it.
I still like the idea of replacing elections with lotteries.
Two, you can’t vote unless you’re old enough to hold office.
But you're old enough to foot the bill for public debt the nanosecond you're born?
God help us when the millennials or Z-ers take over, even the boomers grew up eventually.
Boomers didn't grow up. They just got older and became hardcore statists once they realized that entitlements are a scam that only works if the younger generations have no power. Given the poor example set before them, it's no wonder that Millenials and Gen-Z are clueless about the responsible use of power.
That's so true. Show me a Boomer and I'll show you a really old 25 year old.
This is the same attitude racists have.
Boomers are the worst generation to have graced the country. They sucked all the wealth out of prosperity and have provided very little in return.
"They sucked all the wealth out of prosperity and have provided very little in return."
There is the problem and exactly the reason everyone is segregated on 'who' should get that POWER. The problem being the existence of the POWER itself.
Once upon a time in the land of Individual Liberty and Justice (fair play) wealth was *EARNED* not 'sucked'. That was the JUSTICE. With today's funny-money counterfeiting, massive taxation, crony-socialism and thousands upon thousands of other 'criminal' POWERS; the idea of JUSTICE has given way to GUN theft/dictation.
It's a typical end-story of all communistic/socialist societies.
I like the idea of limits for continuous terms, e.g., no senator can serve more than two consecutive terms before having to sit out a full cycle (or two).
Problem with term limits is career politicians just jump to running for a different office.
Or they can become lawyer/lobbyists - which lets them call themselves "private sector workers" while still involved with the political establishment.
Nah, 18 years total in the person’s lifetime to hold a house or senate seat. Then a gap of 6 years to run for POTUS.
But I like the lottery idea for POTUS and VPOTUS better. But everyone registered to vote over the age of 35 can be selected.
YOUNG POLITICIAN: “Like, we need new thinking…”
OLD POLITICIAN: “Your nose ring? It's interesting, I suppose.”
YOUNG POLITICIAN: "No, I mean we need new ideas like socialism."
OLD POLITICIAN: "That reminds me of the time I met Winston Churchill, or was it Gandhi. Some bald guy, anyway."
....I have been saying for awhile that a radical approach to this aging problem is necessary. The voice that a person has in this system should be in some way related to the skin that they have in the game. The older one gets, the fewer years they have left to live under whatever new rules or circumstances that they have dictated for the future. When a person reaches 65, their vote should count less and less each year they are alive, let us say 2.5% per year. As point of information, I am 57 and so this will effect me very soon. Old people should not be in charge of the country.
"I will not make age an issue of this campaign. I am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent’s youth and inexperience." – Ronald Reagan
"Where's Jackie?" - Joe Biden
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Perhaps “How old the King is” isn’t nearly as important as what the King can do or that there is a King position in the first place.
Real CONSTITUTIONAL limits on *all* the Powers that be…
Neither age nor long tenure in office is the main problem. AOC is one of the youngest people ever to be elected to Congress, and immediately became the spokesperson for a set of ancient and very evil ideas.
The main problem is the political system that enabled her election and guaranteed her re-election. Under 16,000 voters originally selected her to represent over half a million people, in the Democratic primary in a district where the Democrat always wins the general election - and since the incumbent Democrat nearly always wins that primary, we'll probably be stuck with her for a long time.
This entire article is a bunch of ageist nonsense. Congress is no different than any other organization, where seniority in the business or industry enables one to rise in the organization.
If you have the skill to run things, I don't care if you're 62 or 92.
Congress of course, is still maggoty with younger idiots like AOC and Swallwell.
-jcr
“Old people suck” type of bullshit article. This superficial piece is just a dude venting that he’s seeing too many geezers on TV or in position of power instead of anything resembling an argumentation that’s substantively related to libertarianism. “Eww, they’re old and gross!”
And what’s the official rationale here? “Representation matters” type of woke nonsense. Newsflash: It’s the people in those districts who are willingly electing and reelecting these seniors. They ARE being freely represented by the people they’re choosing to be represented by.
As to Social Security and Medicare, it has more to do with these programs being very popular with the general public of every age group than with Congress being full of geezers.
Bottom line, there’s nothing wrong with old people being in politics, or any other job for that matter. Them making themselves useful beats keeping them in nursing homes to jerk off all day.
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