Turning 'Saving Democracy' Into a Campaign Slogan Isn't Helping Save Democracy
Biden's planned address on Wednesday night will call out "those who deny the documented truth about election results and those who seek to undermine public faith in our system of government."

In what is likely a preview of President Joe Biden's planned address tonight, White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre on Wednesday afternoon outlined how the administration sees the stakes of next week's midterms.
Biden "has been clear democracy is under assault and we cannot pretend otherwise," Jean-Pierre told reporters. Wednesday night's speech, which comes less than two months after Biden delivered a similarly themed (and poorly reviewed) address in Philadelphia, will include calling attention to "those who deny the documented truth about election results and those who seek to undermine public faith in our system of government."
Presumably, Biden will not be pointing that spotlight at himself, or at fellow Democrats like Stacey Abrams, or at his very own press secretary. Indeed, if we're putting together a list of people who have committed the sin of assaulting democracy by denying "the documented truth about election results," then Jean-Pierre's own name would show up in that dossier.
Stolen emails, stolen drone, stolen election …..welcome to the world of #unpresidented Trump https://t.co/NI7vqPV6cu
— Karine Jean-Pierre (@K_JeanPierre) December 18, 2016
And it would be there more than once.
Reminder: Brian Kemp stole the gubernatorial election from Georgians and Stacey Abrams.https://t.co/ZIKGTd6U1v
— Karine Jean-Pierre (@K_JeanPierre) April 2, 2020
Biden's name would be in there too. In January, the president seemed to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the midterm elections when he told reporters that "the prospect of [it] being illegitimate is in direct proportion to us not being able to get" the Democrats' election reform bill passed. The White House later clarified that Biden was "absolutely not predicting that the 2022 elections would be illegitimate," even though that's plainly what he was saying.
That bill, by the way, never passed. Does that mean Biden believes next week's election will be illegitimate? Jean-Pierre was asked exactly that question near the end of Wednesday's briefing, and she dismissed it quickly. "Of course" the election will be legitimate, she said.
Of course, Biden was only talking that way because he was trying to get a bill passed. That's the unspoken truth of the January incident.
The unspoken truth of Biden's speech tonight will likely be even more partisan (if recent history is a guide). That's unfortunate, because there does seem to be a very real anti-democratic sentiment—wrapped heavily in conspiracy theorizing and soaked deeply in a nihilistic stew of too-online right-wing politics—that is sweeping one of America's two major parties. But by turning the serious talk of protecting democracy into a campaign speech, Biden is only hurting the cause he seeks to promote.
Let's be very clear about one thing. When it comes to undermining the legitimacy of recent elections, there should be no debate about the fact that Republicans have done more of the damage. And it's not particularly close—thanks in large part to January 6, 2021, but also due to the "birther" conspiracies and several cycles of right-wing fears about voter fraud that have never materialized into anything substantive. I don't need to run through all the specifics—if you've been keeping score at home, you're well aware that the Democrats are far behind in this ugly little game.
But here's the catch. If questioning the legitimacy of elections is as dangerous to the future of American democracy as Biden and Jean-Pierre claim, then there is no excuse for ever questioning the legitimacy of elections. None.
It's not enough to be less bad than the other guy. Yes, there's a difference between tweeting about stolen elections and storming the Capitol to reverse the outcome of one—but Biden isn't condemning only those who did the latter. He's condemning all of it—but only when it's politically convenient.
Of course, in our grotesque zero-sum politics, being less bad than the other guy is all that matters to the politicians, staffers, and voters who can't see past the next election.
Editor's Note: As of February 29, 2024, commenting privileges on reason.com posts are limited to Reason Plus subscribers. Past commenters are grandfathered in for a temporary period. Subscribe here to preserve your ability to comment. Your Reason Plus subscription also gives you an ad-free version of reason.com, along with full access to the digital edition and archives of Reason magazine. We request that comments be civil and on-topic. We do not moderate or assume any responsibility for comments, which are owned by the readers who post them. Comments do not represent the views of reason.com or Reason Foundation. We reserve the right to delete any comment and ban commenters for any reason at any time. Comments may only be edited within 5 minutes of posting. Report abuses.
Please
to post comments
Biden's planned address on Wednesday night will call out "those who deny the documented truth about election results and those who seek to undermine public faith in our system of government."
So he's finally calling out Stacey Abrams?
And Hillary.
Abrams, Clinton, Jean-Pierre. How many lying cunts can fit on one platform?
But totally not election deniers, right?
Great article, Mike. I appreciate your work, I’m now creating over $35400 dollars each month simply by doing a simple job online! I do know You currently making a lot (odi-02) of greenbacks online from $28000 dollars, its simple online operating jobs
…
Just open the link————————————–>>> http://Www.RichApp1.Com
Google pay 200$ per hour my last pay check was $8500 working 1o hours a week online. My younger brother friend has been averaging 12000 for months now and he works about 22 hours a week. I cant believe how easy it was once I tried it outit..
🙂 AND GOOD LUCK.:)
HERE====)> ???.????????.???
If Stacey Abrams is on it, there's not room for many others.
She still thinks she's president of Earth.
More likely to be mistaken for the planet.
Damn, beat me to it.
But don't worry, the adults are back in charge. Right Boehm?
I am making 80 US dollars per hr. to complete some internet services from home. I did not ever think it would even be achievable , however my confidant mate got $13k only in four weeks, easily doing this best assignment and also she convinced me to avail.
For more detail visit this article… http://www.Profit97.com
what do the "birther" allegations have to do with voting Corn Pop?
The hypocrisy of this administration is beyond the pale. It is this administration that is responsible for the worsening distrust and suspicion if anyone ever has been. The list of failures and disasters created by the Biden administration continues to grow daily as we are now in danger of running out of diesel fuel by the end of the month. The disastrous energy policies made by these Marxist miscreants in the White House will have lasting effects for everyone.
Joe Biden is a compulsive liar, near literate fool and a failure at everything he touches, besides the fact he is mentally unfit for the job and therefore physically unfit as well, and the sad trught is that he should never have been allowed anywhere near the White House as we are now paying the price for this bumbling half witted fraud of a president and his failed policies.
I've got an advance copy of Biden's speech, so you don't have to watch. It's pretty short - "MEGA MAGA MUGGA MOOGA"
All while he shits his Depends……. again.
Think of it as a celebrity endorsement of the product.
Goo goo gah gah.
"Let's be very clear about one thing. When it comes to undermining the legitimacy of recent elections, there should be no debate about the fact that Republicans have done more of the damage."
LMMFAO!!! Damn Boehm, you are such a good little comrade for the progressives.
"several cycles of right-wing fears about voter fraud that have never materialized into anything substantive."
Ah yes, no WIDESPREAD voter fraud. Remember how non-progressives had serious concerns about the integrity of the 2020 election and Democrat fought every attempt to perform audits? And progressive judges threw cases out of court for lack of standing, not because of evidence? But sure Boehm, we'll just take your word for it. Let's ignore our lying eyes.
Multiple state-level supreme court cases have ruled that the practices in the 2020 election were illegal. See Wisconsin, PA, and others.
Arizona convicted an ex-Democrat major of a Arizona city, of illegal voter harvesting. But, nothing to see here.
A state judge ruled the same in Michigan.
But 'standing'!!!
Boehm is a collaborator to this illegitimate Marxist totalitarian regime. When they’re gone, everyone should remember that.
How can we convince Musk to buy Reason?
$44!
Remember, Boehm reluctantly voted for this shit.
Boehm, and the rest of Reason, campaigned for it.
That's the thing, the media immediately stated there was no voter fraud, without investigating the allegations. It does not matter that almost every time the changes have been challenged in court since 2021, the courts have ruled the changes were illegal. And despite these rulings, several, Democratic, SoS have instructed their election boards to ignore the rulings, requiring even more lawsuits (GOP just won another one in Pennsylvania because of this). Oh,no, the message is that Republicans are the ones who are enemies of Democracy.
Also, the birther thing. First, let's state it was Hillary Clinton who first brought it up. Let's also not discuss how Clinton and Obama both mentioned McCain may not be eligible for the Presidency, because he was born in the Panama Canal Zone, which at the time was American territory. Let's also not bring up the fact that Obama created some of the ambiguity in his book (the first edition). And also let's not pretend it was anything more than a fringe movement blown out of proportion by a media who used it to smear republicans.
It may be Obama was the first to bring up being born in Kenya. His book publishers believed it, where else would they have gotten that?
Obama created some of the ambiguity in his book (the first edition).
The actual release of his birth certificate was shady AF too. I didn't buy the hoopla, regarding Trump as a political nobody and recalling that it was Clinton disinfo, but the layered PDF they put up on whitehouse.gov was exceedingly fucked up.
Nice list, lets also not forget Bush v Gore went to the Supreme Court after several hand recounts in Florida, and Clinton with the Steele Dossier that was later discredited.
I love the irony though, Biden recently had a speech on how owning private firearms would not make a difference against the US Military (nice threat to gun owners), but simultaneously the left thinks 600 unarmed douche bags wearing capes and costumes almost overthrew the government. Double think is real.
Yeah, its not like Democrats had a slogan "Selected, not Elected" for the 2000 election. Or "Russian Interference" for the 2016 followed by a two year long investigation and an impeachment. Or how about claiming that election security measures are voter suppression because apparently black can't figure out where the DMV is!
In 2004, Bush’s re-election over Kerry, leftists argued the election should not be certified due to voter fraud in Ohio.
They deny the legitimacy of every election they lose. It’s part of their prices now for any election.
S/b process.
Look up Penny Hubbard (and family) and that whole scandal in St. Louis if you want to get some insight into what some Democrat politicians are willing to do on the whole voter fraud front.
Actual court cases: proven fraud. We're talking dropping off ballots - cases of them, absentee fraud, write-in fraud, ballot harvesting, you name it.
It's never mentioned nationally because they were so obvious about it that they gave away the game.
"I don't need to run through all the specifics—if you've been keeping score at home, you're well aware that the Democrats are far behind in this ugly little game."
Color me surprised that a Reason Editor would support Democrats on a topic. Keep pushing the narrative Boehm, like the good little comrade that you are.
That makes four lying cunts.
1960 Presidential Election..the Dems manufactured a win for Kennedy with dead voters in Chicago. I would say Eric that pretty much puts them in the lead. LBJ ("landside Lyndon")...Senate campaign.
This myth of a GOP right wing populist antiwoke threat is getting a little annoying Reason. The left controls all the corporate media, academia, corporate HR departments, govt agencies and so on....the threat is the left to liberty. Get on the train Eric and leave DC or NYC or whatever little woke place you live. As for voter fraud: in my school district in central NY we have our school board and budget election on ONE day, at one location (the high school) and you have to show up the day of the vote and show a photo ID to vote. I asked why and was told by the board "we don't want voter fraud"..now you know they won't send out mail in ballots because that would hurt the teacher unions/educational complex from winning given the low % of voters in that election. But show up the day of the vote and show a photo ID..works for the left, should work for the right.
Ah, yes; 1948, a very good year for fair and free elections.
The runoff vote count, handled by the Democratic State Central Committee, took a week. Johnson was announced the winner by 87 votes out of 988,295, an extremely narrow margin of victory. However, Johnson's victory was based on 200 "patently fraudulent" ballots reported six days after the election from Box 13 in Jim Wells County, in an area dominated by political boss George Parr. The added names were in alphabetical order and written with the same pen and handwriting, following at the end of the list of voters. Some of the persons in this part of the list insisted that they had not voted that day.
Trump was only 2 years old, but I am sure it was his fault.
Also color me shocked that a Reason propagandist doesn't want to engage with facts before declaring their position true and unassailable. Fucking marxist cunts one and all.
Everything Democrats don’t like is a THREAT TO DEMOCRACY.
Threat to Democracy = Threat to the Democrat party. Once you understand that, it makes more sense.
That's their core value. Like all ideologues, they are so sure they are correct, that disagreement means heresy. Plus they invented victim culture, so heresy poses an existential threat.
It's been a running theme all year.
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/everything-is-an-attack-on-democracy
It’s sort of a sick irony that the very people who call everything a ‘threat to democracy’ are the people who most ignore the rules of our Republic. As I previously discussed, the new idea of America was that nobody was above the law, and that government officials who passed laws were held to account by voters. Over and over during his short administration, Joe Biden has ignored the proper rule-making process of our Republic while proclaiming to be saving it.
With executive orders, he shut down the Keystone pipeline and suspended other energy projects. He sanctioned Russia (long before the war) and shut down travel that Trump had opened. Vaccine mandates were executive orders. Now, certainly Biden isn’t the first president to use the executive order, but he may be the most hypocritical by sidestepping the proper lawmaking procedures of the country for the biggest issues of the day.
Though the vaccine mandates were the most egregious example, nearly all covid rules were made via executive fiat and use of emergency powers. Governors and mayors found a lackey in a lab coat to stand behind so they could pass the buck and be held blameless for the chaos that followed. “Just following guidelines” became the borg-like ‘get out of jail free’ chant of government officials. But nobody voted for Anthony Fauci or anybody working under him. We have no mechanism to hold these bureaucrats responsible - and holding officials responsible is the foundation of the Republic.
The other part of the American new idea was that we could each do as much like we please, even if we thought the wackos in the next colony were out of their gourds. The founders tried to balance a minimal(!) federal government with limits on power. I guess they fucked up.
The concept of rulers are not above the law dates back to the magna Carta. Other than that good peice
"It's not enough to be less bad than the other guy. Yes, there's a difference between tweeting about stolen elections and storming the Capitol to reverse the outcome of one—but Biden isn't condemning only those who did the latter. He's condemning all of it—but only when it's politically convenient."
No, he's not. Biden is only condemning his political opponents. There will be NO mention of any democrat that has every questioned an election. That's why Biden/Democrats/MSM paint anybody that questions the 2020 election as an "election denier". Not just a few hundred J6 mostly peaceful protestors, but ANYBODY that supports Trump and the GOP.
And guess what, YOU are part of the problem Boehm. Let's pretend there really is no widespread fraud in 2020. If you and the rest of the MSM had done your jobs and investigated these allegations, and subsequently proved them wrong, perhaps Americans would have more trust in election integrity.
What did you and the MSM actually do? What you always do, run cover for the Democrats. You didn't even make an attempt to take the legitimate concerns and questions seriously. Your position was pretty much, "Well, our guy won so we're good."
Boehm, you're not a journalist or an editor. You're a propagandists for the far left progressive in our country. Trump was right, the MSM is an enemy of the US people.
Protestors stormed the state capitol of Wisconsin to protest the results of the governor's election.
Protestors stormed the US senate building to protest the results of the democratic process to appoint a justice.
That is TOTALLY different for, uh, reasons. Boehm will definitely get back to you on that.
Here are the top three reasons:
1. TDS
2. TDS
3. TDS
Are you sure "shut up racist" didn't make the cut?
Biden "has been clear democracy is under assault and we cannot pretend otherwise," Jean-Pierre told reporters.
Explain.
Jean-Pierre: "Because lies flow out of me like diarrhea from a food-poisoned sea lion."
This checks out.
https://twitter.com/CurtisHouck/status/1587867095697690624
KJP on why the White House deleted a misleading tweet about an increase in Social Security checks: "So, it was--look, the tweet was not complete. Usually, when we put out a tweet, we post it with context and it did not have that context...Seniors will have a chance to get ahead"
-------
Then why not just add the context in a sub-tweet like everybody else? Why hasn't it been reposted with the context? Why do you think we're all as retarded as the media?
If you want to save democracy, don’t vote for Democrats because they have made our clear that they want to destroy democracy. It’s that simple.
Agreed. A few highlights of how the Democrats our trying to destroy our Republic:
1. No requirement for ID to vote
2. Promoting questionable machines to count the vote. (Nearly all of EU rejects them.)
3. Allowing mail-in voting without verification
4. Allowing unmonitored ballot drop boxes
5. Secretly working with Big Tech to censor their political allies
6. Holding J6 protestors for nearly 2 years for non-violent offenses 7. Using the FBI to investigate, harass and arrest their political opponents.
8. Their continual assault on the 2nd amendment
9. Supporting and encouraging gender grooming of young children 10. Their support for minors to mutilate their genitalia without parental consent
These are just the first 10 that came to mind. Despite the Republicans still being the party of McConnell, Romney and Graham, the Democrats have made themselves openly hostile to our liberties.
How else can they achieve equity and express empathy?
9 seems to be defended by Reason writers..very strange.
It's called massive desperation.
Let's be very clear about one thing. When it comes to undermining the legitimacy of recent elections, there should be no debate about the fact that Republicans have done more of the damage. And it's not particularly close...
That is an unmitigated lie and utter BULLSHIT.
Biden giving his speech live on Fox. Text at the bottom of the screen reads "Biden Smears Republicans Ahead Of Midterms". No shit.
Depends on what he's smearing them with, I suppose...
More like smearing his depends.
Let's be clear about the stolen base I highlighted that Eric likely thinks he got away with. Team Blue hasn't considered a presidential election they lost 'legitimate' since 1988.
The only presidential election victory by a Republican in my lifetime( born 1967) that the Democrats haven't declared illegitimate was 1984 which was a 49 state landslide ( and the rumor of vote fraud there was in Minnesota or it might have been a clean sweep of all 50 states).
One thing is crystal clear – you must vote against Donald Trump this midterm or all hope is lost. Trump Trump Trump Trump.
Oh yeah, almost forgot - Republicans aren't going to let the darkies vote no more.
You forgot concentration camps for pregnant women and evil capitalists kicking families out onto the street.
Just tell me why you think that is funny .
Because it is pure projection of the Democrats, casting the impact of their policy onto Republicans. Look at th he economy under Obama, Trump and now Biden but the problem is Trump's policies that created prosperity and growth.
OK, Jerryskids, I am now convinced. Reason has made me see the light. I absolutely promise that I will not vote for Donald Trump in the 2022 Election. 😉
If voters can vote out the sitting government, it’s the end of democracy! Or something.
Denying or questioning the election results is a bigger threat to Democracy than using tax payer money to pay off student loans without approval from the legislature? Making law through executive order when you can't get them passed through the legislative process? Blatantly using the DoJ and IRS to target political opponents? Pressuring tech and media companies to silence "disinformation ™" which always ends up being directed at one political side only? Trying to federalize elections contrary to the Constitution? Passing rules and regulations designed specifically to drive certain businesses out of business and telling everyone that's exactly what you're doing? Passing Title IX rules that remove presumption of innocence, fair trial or allowing attorney representation? Proposing Title IX regulations which will force schools to teach your preferred narrative, while also cutting parents out of medical decisions (life altering medical decisions) of their minor children? Proposing court packing because you disagree with the courts rulings? Pushing equity over equality? Passing regulations on trade that forces companies to invest in your preferred industries? Passing regulations that favor one group over another (unions)? Going after parents who are upset about perceived political indoctrination by labeling them domestic terrorists? Forcing people to take a vaccine in order to work, even after you knew the vaccine wasn't effective at stopping the spread of the virus? Threatening companies, that you've personally stated you want to drive out of business, with punitive taxes to help your political ambitions? Using federal tax money to implement in schools political indoctrination? Labeling half the country fascists? I could go on, but I think I've made my point.
The point being is what Boehm labels as threats to Democracy are protected speech. What the Democrats actually have done is tyrannical and unconstitutional. Which is a bigger threat in your book, speech or actually using the government to target private citizens, monitor social media of citizens without warrants, using education to indoctrinate young people, and targeting private companies to push your agenda? Oh and don't forget the big one, using government agencies to target speech that questions government.
Just accept that "democracy" means one party rule, and then answer your question.
Exactly. "Does that mean Biden believes next week's election will be illegitimate?" Yes, if the Democrats lose, that's precisely what he believes.
“Democracy” means what Democrats want, to Democrats.
Honestly, I expected better.
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/bidens-philadelphia-20-speech
Why?
I figured that the adults in the room would have figured out how to tone down their message to make it at least A LITTLE appealing to the undecided.
This was just Phily 2.0 with regular lighting.
I was looking forward to this. Also, police cleared out the homeless encampment surrounding Union Station prior to the speech for 'safety reasons'. Haha
I can hardly see the keyboard, Eric. Your gaslight is getting awfully dim.
The entire premise is that so-called "election deniers" are a threat.
They're not.
So anything that follows that premise is a fallacy.
Even you can't swallow this.
Shocking isn’t it?
That would make it a phallusy.
Just the tip
Why not just call me a liar.
Seriously. If what I say disagrees with the narrative about me, say so. Call me out.
Do a sing-song while you’re at it.
Edit: I'll start the song.
sarc is a li-ar!
sarc is a li-ar!
neener neener nee-ner!
neener neener nee-ner!
C'mon, you can do it!
Poor sarc.
Fuck, it was a joke. But you just went off the fucking deep end. It's funny you claim to ridicule people who you claim overreact to your 'sarcasm' yet here you are going off the fucking deep end. Also, nothing I posted even implied you were a liar. You often defend Reason. I was pointing out that even you called bullshit on Boehm. Not sure how the fuck you assumed that is calling you a liar.
Also, if you deny that you defend Reason, is it at least fair that you tend to ridicule most criticism of Reason:s editorial choices and journalistic choices? So, even with this statement, my sarcastic take still stands. But sure, go ahead and call me a mean girl, and go off the fucking cliff for some mild humor. You ever think you get so much shit because of your own actions? No, it's everyone else's fault, right?
Hillary Clinton has already denied the 2024 election will be fair.
And Biden said the midterms couldn't be trusted unless they passed the big voting bill, which didn't get passed. Therefore..........
Democrats are one step from saying out loud that democracy means one party rule. The CCP approves.
So after the election, they’ll reject the election outcome because… democracy?
Just depends on who wins. They may be forced to (formally) destroy democracy to defend it.
Boehm is stupidly wrong that Dems are far behind in delegitimizing elections, a farce he can only maintain by ignoring Dem delegitimizing efforts in every Presidential election since and including 2000. The more generic tactic of delegitimizing truth is an almost exclusively Dem project going back at least 4 decades. As is the case in election-specific cases these delegitimizing efforts were only identified as a problem when there right adopted the left’s tactics, a theme Boehm continues.
Whether the speech supports Democracy is irrelevant since it isn’t supposed to. It’s designed to allow media groups to create enough hysteria that even low information voters get the message.
Seriously, no one outside of journalism and bluecheck twitter actually cares if you trust the election results or not.
You either do or you dont and it doesnt matter. "HOW DARE YOU QUESTION THE INTEGRITY OF THIS ELECTION" smacks of desperation to be honest.
"...“HOW DARE YOU QUESTION THE INTEGRITY OF THIS ELECTION” smacks of desperation to be honest..."
It will be particularly satisfying if the Ds whine about congressional contests.
It's hard for Democrats to claim that Republican candidates are an existential threat to the country, but also for them to sponsor and support the more partisan or more conservative Republican candidates in the primaries. If these people are too dangerous to hold office, then Democratic SuperPACs shouldn't donate to them. But if they're safe enough to risk them getting into office, then clearly they can't be the greatest threats to democracy ever seen.
You can play the game of supporting the less electable candidate in the primary, but you can't keep doing that while claiming those people are existential threats that may get people killed. You can't hold all that territory at the same time.
"...You can’t hold all that territory at the same time."
Given sufficient dishonesty, that and more is easily possible, and the left has been famously dishonest over the last 5 years.
Exactly.
Boehm - Challenge Accepted.
I dunno. Not saying one way or the other, but looking at it rationally, wouldn't pointing out and trying to end election fraud be "saving Democracy"? Isn't denying or covering up any fraud an assault on Democracy?
The meanings of words and phrases can change to suit the needs of the speaker.
There is no evidence of significant election fraud. And whenever they do find someone who voted twice or whatever, it's literally always a Republican.
They're trying to make you think it's OK to commit election fraud, not prevent it.
Most of you appear to still be in denial about just how sinister all this shit is.
Have the Republicans actually done anything to stop the fortification of elections or do the Democrats still control the counting of the votes? Is this going to be another one where the Republicans have an insurmountable lead at 2 in the morning but hundreds of thousands of late votes surprisingly lead to Democrat victories?
“Have the Republicans actually done anything to stop the fortification of elections…”
Well, the claim is the Jan-6 protesters could somehow have prevented droolin’ Joe being declared the winner if they put enough feet on desks. In fact, here’s a lefty shit to attest to it:
JasonT20 February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm “How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?…”
(added by edit) On second thought prehaps he’s simply a raging asshole who is happy if anyone who disagrees with him is murdered. Regardless, fuck him with a running, rusty chainsaw.
I don't think the dems really give much of a shit about the legislature. They care about the executive, and have complete control of all institutions. The legislature is just for show.
"...those who seek to undermine public faith in our system of government."
The government is doing a great job undermining faith in itself. It doesn't need help.
The media is doing its part!
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."
Increasingly people are getting more and more of that they want, good and hard. Less democracy would be a good thing.
Increasingly people are getting more and more of that they want, good and hard. Less democracy would be a good thing.
No, because less democracy would mean that if they don't like what they get from the government, then they don't have as much ability to change the government.
"That is why there should be less government!" a libertarian would likely respond. Well, how much and what government should do is one of those policy preferences that people get to vote on. If what they don't like about what they get from government is that they aren't get enough from government, then they can vote to change that. I suspect that is what most of these sayings really are about. You don't like it when the majority wants more government, so you think that there should be less democracy so that the majority can't get its way. But things tend to change when the majority wants something that you also want, I bet.
We have a lot of limitations on democracy. The Constitution is one giant limit on democracy. Democracy isn't an inherent good, and one political party is doing its best to open up more and more things to be decided democratically (only because they have the votes), Constitution and natural rights be damned.
“The most basic question is not what is best, but who shall decide what is best.” – Thomas Sowell
“It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.” – Thomas Sowell
LAST NIGHT"S SPEECH
“The least productive people are usually the ones who are most in favor of holding meetings.” – Thomas Sowell
Who do you think is better situated to decide for us what we need than ourselves? Got a name?
No one is. Which is why someone selected by 51% of fellow voters is also not well situated to decide what we need. Government in general is very poorly situated to decide for us what we need.
And as we know, people in a state of anarchy never have conflicting interests.
https://twitter.com/martyrmade/status/1587638521820372992?t=HfSFoCTC95ixXztQZPGuRw&s=19
Sometimes I pause and remember that they murdered Jeffrey Epstein in a high-security prison to keep him quiet about global elites sexually abusing children. Then I switch modes and carry on as if we live in a normal world where our problems can be solved by voting. It's weird.
a little Gell-Mann tea to treat one's amnesia
Here's the thing about democracy. When candidates with bad policies win an election, the voters get a chance to change their minds and vote for different candidates the next time. As long as the elections are run in a way that allows those in power to be voted out when they lose majority support, that is. That is why making sure that elections are run in as non-partisan a manner as is humanly possible has to be a non-negotiable for every voter. Every voter has to be able to change their mind about who to vote for and expect that their choice can make a difference.
What we are seeing is an increasing lack of acceptance of these principles. The other side is just too dangerous and their policies too damaging for them to be allowed to win, even if they do have the support of a majority of voters.
As long as your side is the one that wins, majority support or not, then you might think that it is fine if the system is biased in favor of your side. But that will only be true as long as you do, in fact, agree with those in power. When you find that the government is not really on your side, but only on their own side, and you want to change the government, that is when you will realize your mistake. And it will be too late.
Threats to Democracy:
A bloodless coup attempt against a sitting president with fake intelligence provided by Hillary Clinton colluding with Russia to impeach and try the sitting President of the US.
Trying to take away the constitutionally mandated state run elections by Federalize elections while holding the Presidency and both Houses of Congress. Imagine the hue and cry if the Republicans had done that!
Trying to turn a liberal city into a state. Imagine the hue and cry if the GOP had tried to turn conservative Dallas/Ft Worth into a city.
Trying to make a liberal territory a state without a counter balancing conservative territory like when Hawaii and Alaska were admitted.
Liberal governors becoming dictators and changing election laws without legislative approval as demanded by state constitutions.
Locking up dissidents for years without charges, bail or trials, like the Jan. 6h protestors.
Using Legal harassment, lawsuits, raids and trials against political opposition.
Weaponizing the FBI, DOJ and IRS against political opposition.
Try to use archaic civil war era laws to keep political opponents from running in elections.(Election interference)
Governing totally by Executive order and ignoring the legislature, which your party controls. (student loan bailouts, even Pelois said that)
Issuing illegal mandates and lock-downs.
Biden threatening to go after opposition party Governors
Establishing a Disinformation Board (Ministry of Truth) only seen in dictatorships previously.
Teaching children the Constitution is obsolete and needs to be re-written.
Trying to change the first and second amendments of the Constitution.
Who has done all the listed above things? The Republicans? NO.
The Democrats? YES!
I have no idea if there was widespread voter fraud—how would I know, since there was no investigation, and we didn’t need an investigation because 2020 was The Most Secure Election Ever™.
But if you did want to enable widespread voter fraud, what better way to do this than effectively ban mentioning voter fraud. Pressure social media to remove posts alleging fraud or expressing doubt. Create a taboo around skepticism by calling people deniers, extremists, and terrorists. And most ironically, repeat—and have most media outlets repeat—the mantra that allowing people to vote for certain individuals is A Threat to Our Democracy™.
It is smiley face fascism.
"...if you've been keeping score at home, you're well aware that the Democrats are far behind in this ugly little game."
Um, no. Utter bullshit, if you are keeping score at home.
"our system of government" IS NOT Democracy.... F'En Nazi's..
It's a Constitutional Republic.
Democrats are treasonous invaders.
They want to conquer the USA for their Democratic Nazi-Empire.
Seems their war effort is to just 'pretend' the take over into existence.
I don't understand why people who are apparently not fully literate think they know about complicated things like the nuanced differences between forms of democracy.
What you don't understand Tony is the USA.
Founded by a US Constitution (the people's LAW over their Government).
You sound like a dumb child.
This is simply not true, at least not true in theory. I agree that our system of government is NO LONGER a democracy. A constitutional republic can be a democracy, but only if the power of government and the power of officials is limited by the constitution. Since our constitutional limits on government power have been mostly bypassed, we now have rulers in a self-sustaining political class, which is a form of oligarchy, not democracy. "The People Rule" is only a bad translation from the original Greek. It means that no one rules above "the people," not that the people rule, which is meaningless. If everyone rules then no one rules.
Oligarchy Nazism (National Socialism)?
Yep; you're probably more correct.
Except it'd be FAR more correct to say a Constitutional Republic can utilize democracy as a tool but that doesn't make the nation a "democracy" .... especially in the sense Democrats pretend it does (as you well explain how democracy has conquered constitutional limits) and since it's a republic, its more like an oligarchy Nazi-Empire.
However its described. It *isn't* the USA anymore since the USA was founded on the Constitution and it's Limits on Gov-Gun Forces.
What a horrifying embarrassment that speech was, more votes he lost !! Reminds me of what Jefferson did in an even more contentious situation ( the opposite) :" But every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle. We have called by different names brethren of the same principle. We are all Republicans, we are all Federalists."
Biden the professional hater. YUCK
"When it comes to undermining the legitimacy of recent elections, there should be no debate about the fact that Republicans have done more of the damage. And it's not particularly close—thanks in large part to January 6, 2021, but also due to the "birther" conspiracies and several cycles of right-wing fears about voter fraud that have never materialized into anything substantive. I don't need to run through all the specifics—if you've been keeping score at home, you're well aware that the Democrats are far behind in this ugly little game."
I beg to differ. The Dems have contested the 2000, 2004 and 2016 elections.
2020 was bad for Republicans because of Jan 6. Dems rioted in the streets of DC on Trump's inauguration day in 2017 and the damage from that is pretty comparable to Jan 6 in terms of people involved and extent of damage. If anything, the people who rioted on 2017 inauguration day have been more enabled because the DOJ went nowhere near has hard on them as J6ers.
Boehm brings up birtherism like that one didn't originate from Clinton's 2008 campaign and like it was anything other than a fringe theory on the right, meanwhile we were hearing about Trump/Russian hooker pee tapes in mainstream publications for 2 years after the 2016 election.
GOP election denial is relegated to a small corner of the internet compared to Dem election denial which gets attention from the majority of the mainstream media and even gets the forces of government to seriously investigate these claims for years on end.
The Dems claimed Russian's hacked election machines in 2016 and flipped vote tallies and congressional Dems and the special council were on about Trump-Russia collusion through about the halfway mark of 2019.
Stacey Abrams famously has not conceded her 2018 election. Sens Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobuchar and Ron Wyden were claiming Dominion voting machines were vulnerable to hacking into 2019.
Throughout the past 2 years, Dems have raised claims that the 2022 midterms won't be legitimate due to state's setting their own election laws with voter ID requirements. Biden gave a campaign speech with uniformed troops at his back in which he called his primary political opponents a threat to democracy and this country because of their views of the 2020 election and because they want to restrict voting rights. Two weeks after that speech a dude ran over a teenager in North Dakota because he thought this teenager was a "Republican extremist."
Show me your scorecard Boehm, because otherwise I'm not buying this claim.
Boehm isn't keeping score. Go look at his twitter feed. He knows how the game will go- Dems Not great; Republicans Pure Evil- and doesn't need to watch.
"fringe theory on the right"
Donald Trump remains the world's most prominent supporter of birtherism. It launched his political career. Now his most famous politicial position is that he won an election he lost.
All that stuff kind of pales in comparison to the leader of the Republican party being the biggest, fattest liar in the world and maintaining a following of millions.
Whataboutism is a tool of Russian propagandists, and you've thrown every one you can dig up at the wall.
Trump was Pro-Choice..
Correction; Tony "being the biggest, fattest liar in the world".
This very bad example of gas lighting perfectly illustrates why Reason is increasingly seen (by me, anyway) as too far down the lefty rabbit hole to be saved.
"The unspoken truth of Biden's speech tonight will likely be even more partisan (if recent history is a guide)."
The link in "history is a guide" is to Reason's Podcast, where finally after a week of the entire world judging Biden's speech as Deeply Creepy AF, Reason editors finally had something to say other than ENB's "Meh, just a campaign speech" and Tuccile's "Wow that was kind off trumpy!"
What about Boehm? Well he had nothing to say about the speech other than a tweet that- wait for it- was critical of Republicans.
https://twitter.com/EricBoehm87/status/1565785153158500353?s=20&t=JfCddrRVxn5M5oLTEKPsNA
"You kinda get the feeling that a lot of Republicans aren't mad about this so much as jealous"
So having completely ignored these examples of creeping Democratic authoritarianism; Having made no mention of the fact that the DHS is actively trying to police our speech with big tech; making no mention of the fact that the #2 senator just flatly declared that Freedom of Speech shouldn't be free; ignoring the fact that the Democratic voters, by leaps and bounds, overwhelmingly support locking unvaccinated in homes, fining them, and the government policing and punishing people for "misinformation".
People get on Reason all the time because they cannot seem to ever muster a criticism of Democrats without mentioning "both sides". But Boehm can't even do that. The party in power is busy abrogating our rights- with the complete support of their voting base (!)- and he has to spend the majority of his article explaining how the other side is worse.
Maybe they are- I disagree, but it is a discussion worth having. But this is not an article where that discussion will happen. The mildly critical headline notwithstanding, this article is all about changing the subject from Biden- the guy in power who is actively trying to abridge our freedoms- to yet another rehash of Boehm's gripes with icky conservatives.
Biden spent much of his speech decrying the 'election-denying' Republican candidates up for election next Tuesday.
You know, the ones that the DNC bankrolled through their primaries.
https://reason.com/2022/09/13/bidens-party-is-still-boosting-those-maga-republicans-the-president-warned-us-about/
https://reason.com/2022/10/31/why-are-democrats-backing-trumpists/
Democracy is not about who wins an election if the winner rules over the people. Democracy is the ABSENCE of rulers. When I express a lack of faith in our system of government, it's not about the lack of fair elections. I have never questioned the outcome of any election without convincing objective evidence. When I express a lack of faith in our system of government it's about what happens after the election - the constant and unrelenting assault on our Constitutional limits on government and official power. We can leave the fact that I have never ever had my choice of representatives represent me in the seats of government - or even had even a remote chance of getting my choice of representatives - for another day.
^BINGO +1000000
"When I express a lack of faith in our system of government it’s about what happens after the election – the constant and unrelenting assault on our Constitutional limits on government and official power."
Edgelording. That's what the Democrats have been doing.
First use every means in your power, legal and illegal, to make an election at least look crooked. Then, react with feigned horror at the response.
"but also due to the "birther" conspiracies"
Uhm, that "conspiracy" was started by Hillary's campaign
Not true, but even if it was, does that excuse your believing it? Do you believe everything the Hillary campaign says?
"Republicans have done more of the damage" -- yes, but it's more painful when Democrats do it, because (1) then there are _no_ adults in the room left; (2) it's more painful if my son does bad things than if others' kids do worse things; (3) people like Lindsey Graham or Rudy Giuliani are beyond fixing, but one hopes against hope that others won't be, and it's disheartening when they keep slipping...
I feel extremely cheerful to have seen your site page and anticipate such a large number of all the more engaging circumstances perusing here. Much appreciated yet again for every one of the points of interest. casino
Just remember, when Joe Biden and the democrats talk about saving democracy, consider it no different than when Uncle Joe Stalin talked about democracy.
Censorship is not democracy. A kept press is not democracy. As long a Julian Assange remains in prison in fear for his life if he is extradited to the U.S., there is no freedom of press. There is no freedom of speech as long as a cabal of nameless bureaucrats get to decide what is and what isn't allowed on the internet or any other public forum.
There is no free press as long as journalists are jailed in secret detentions, as their offices and homes are raided ie: James O'Keefe and Project Veritas, as long as journalists are arrested and even murdered for doing what they were tasked with: exposing corruption and wrong doing within the government.
Joe Biden exhibits the real hypocrisy that permeates throughout the democrat party and liberals everywhere: silence the opposition by declaring misinformation and jailing anyone who dares speak out.
America more closely resembles Russia of the 1930s, during Stalin's reign of terror.
So, ask the question: Does the country come first for the Lazy and Stupid President ?
27 of Top 30 Crime-Ridden Cities Run by Democrats
Samantha Aschieris November 04, 2022