In Utah Senate Race, Evan McMullin Has To Reckon With an Ugly History
In a campaign where much of the focus has been on Donald Trump and January 6, McMullin's CIA career deserves more interrogation.

As he works to unseat two-term incumbent Sen. Mike Lee (R–Utah), Republican-turned-independent Evan McMullin has been eager to frame himself as the good guy.
In campaign ads, McMullin promises to be a "compassionate, selfless, and independent" candidate who won't get caught up in partisan extremism. Lee sold out his reputation and his values by engaging with former President Donald Trump's attempt to subvert the results of the 2020 election, McMullin argued to Politico a few months ago. "That's not what a constitutional conservative does," he said. On his campaign website, McMullin outlines 12 principles that he promises to adhere to if elected next month—including "reaffirm our founding beliefs," "defend the constitution," and "seek and promote truth."
And how better to illustrate all that than to have Luke Skywalker—that is, actor Mark Hamil—endorse McMullin's plucky underdog effort during the home stretch? "The Force is with us!" McMullin declared after the announcement.
Framing the race that way might work. In other Republican states, having Trump's endorsement and tenuous connections to the January 6 riot might be a boon for Lee. But in a place where Trump has never been very popular and where the other sitting senator is the famously Trump-skeptical Mitt Romney, that's not necessarily the case. Polls show Lee holding a slim lead, but McMullin is closing ground. The two candidates are scheduled to debate tonight at Utah Valley University.
But that frame should inspire a closer look at McMullin's own biography. McMullin's claims of being the morally upstanding character in this contest—not merely the Never Trump choice in this race, but the good guy—sit somewhat uncomfortably alongside his connections to one of the ugliest scandals in recent American history.
McMullin joined the CIA while still an undergraduate student at Brigham Young University, and he claims in campaign videos to have been at the CIA's headquarters in Langley, Virginia, on September 11, 2001. Shortly after the terrorist attacks, he was deployed to Southwest Asia on an assignment of "gathering information on the Taliban, developing intelligence for strikes on terrorists and searching for high-value al-Qaeda leaders, including Osama bin Laden," according to a Washington Post profile published while McMullin was running for president in 2016. Though the details of his deployment are classified, several former CIA officers have vouched for his track record as an exemplary agent.
Fair enough. But McMullin's career as an intelligence officer during the War on Terror overlaps with the CIA's clandestine torture regime, which was detailed in an explosive report assembled by the Senate Intelligence Committee in 2014. According to a 500-page executive summary of that report—the full report remains classified—CIA officers subjected detainees to waterboarding, forced feeding (including anal feeding), sleep deprivation, and other physical and psychological tortures at secret prisons known as "black sites." The Senate report also found that torture "was not an effective means of acquiring intelligence or gaining cooperation from detainees."
McMullin did not know about the torture, says Kelsey Koenen Witt, a spokesperson for McMullin's campaign.
"Though he was aware of 'black sites' where some captured terrorists were held, he never visited any of the installations and was unaware of the enhanced interrogation program," Koenen Witt writes in an email. "He was never involved in the program and was never read into it."
That's subtly different from how McMullin explained things when he was running for president six years ago. Then, in an interview with Buzzfeed, McMullin said he was "aware of" the CIA's torture program, though he similarly denied being involved.
"I was aware of it by virtue of where I was," he said. "I was serving in a place that was the kind of place where people entered that program from that place, but I never participated in it, I never went to a black site, never met with a detainee."
The shifting explanation is at once subtle and telling. Claiming to be unaware of what was happening at those CIA "black sites," as McMullin now says he was, might absolve him of some moral culpability. It might also be an easy way to avoid obvious follow-up questions about what exactly he knew and when he knew it.
On other aspects of the CIA's torture program, McMullin's answers have similarly evolved over time.
In that same 2016 interview with Buzzfeed, McMullin said that he did not support the use of torture against suspected terrorists—but he made a distinction for waterboarding.
"I don't believe in taking it easy on terrorists when they're incarcerated. But I also don't support the use of torture. There are gray areas," he said. "I believe that waterboarding is in a gray area."
To be clear, there is no gray area when it comes to waterboarding. The United Nations considers it a form of torture. It is prohibited by the U.S. Army Field Manual, which governs soldiers' behavior on the battlefield. In 2006, President George W. Bush signed a law forbidding the use of torture by the military—though the bill deliberately exempted the CIA.
McMullin offered that opinion of the technique two years after the Senate Intelligence Committee report had described the use of water-boarding as "physically harmful, inducing convulsions and vomiting," two years after the report detailed incidents where suspects were waterboarded until they passed out or required medical attention. One prisoner, Abu Zubaydah, was waterboarded at least 83 times.
John Kiriakou, a former CIA officer and one of the first whistleblowers to inform the Senate of the CIA's use of torture against Al Qaeda prisoners, tells Reason that McMullin's 2016 description of waterboarding is "utterly disingenuous."
"At the time that he made this statement, the Senate Torture Report already had been published. It was crystal clear, even to waterboarding supporters, that the act was a form of torture," says Kiriakou. "It was crystal clear that not only was waterboarding illegal, immoral, and unethical, it simply didn't work. McMullen makes a lot of his faith. I highly doubt that his faith would mandate waterboarding a prisoner."
McMullin's opinion on the matter has now changed, Koenen Witt tells Reason.
"Evan opposes torture including waterboarding and believes it is critical for the United States government to respect basic human rights at all times," she writes.
McMullin has not read the Senate's report on the CIA's use of torture, Koenen Witt writes, but he "believes the CIA and its vital mission is strengthened with strong congressional oversight and when it respects basic human rights."
That's exactly the answer that you'd expect from the current iteration of McMullin, the patriotic conservative who defends the constitution. But voters will never know anything more than McMullin is willing to share about his CIA career. His history will remain classified, even though the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are over.
The one thing we do know is that, unlike Kiriakou, McMullin didn't blow the whistle about the CIA's torture regime. Is that because he didn't know, or because he didn't care? More vital to this campaign might be a slightly different version of that same question: If McMullin wins, can Americans count on him to be an impartial investigator in the event of another CIA scandal?
"While Evan served as an undercover CIA operations officer, he was committed to the duties of that role. If he prevails in the Utah Senate race, he will approach his new role with the same commitment," Koenen Witt tells Reason. "Evan has always believed that the Agency and the nation are well-served when the intelligence community has strong congressional oversight."
One last thing worth noting is how much media coverage of the Utah Senate race is seemingly uninterested in McMullin's history with the CIA and his connections to the torture scandal—even though it drew scrutiny from the Post, Buzzfeed, and others during his quixotic presidential run in 2016.
The New York Times and Politico recently dedicated long feature pieces to the Utah Senate race, and both naturally included significant detailing of Lee's texts with White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows in the run-up to January 6. But neither piece even made a passing mention of McMullin's CIA tenure or his previous wishy-washy responses when asked about waterboarding and the use of torture in America's post-9/11 wars.
In a recent interview with the Times, McMullin said Lee's involvement with the January 6 protests was "one of the most egregious betrayals of the American republic in its history." But history did not begin in January 2021. There's no need to downplay or dismiss Lee's involvement in Trump's attempt to cling to power, but a proper perspective on the Utah Senate race would show that both leading candidates have stains on their records.
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He's running as a Democrat (he is their nominee now). He has no chance.
McMuffin's luminescence should have disqualified him right up front.
And yeah, for all his pretenses that he won't caucus with either party, he's clearly lying his ass off there--the Democrats did him a favor by not running their own candidate, and will expect something in return for that.
I’m sure a deal was made.
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He is running as an independent. There will not be a (D) after his name on the ballot.
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Not having that (D) might fool a few idiots.
Like brandybuck?
I'm sure Brandyshit is hoping to make a point about TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!! And, as usual, failing.
Dems are not running a candidate and are openly supporting him. He's as independent as Bernie.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/24/politics/utah-democrats-evan-mcmullin-mike-lee/index.html
He's already totally walked back his pro-life stance he claimed in 2016.
So it seems the DNC finally found a MAGA Republican they don't want to fund. Curious, considering all the one's they gave millions of dollars to.
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based on comments I would think i'm reading white conservative evangelical nationalist comments, I thought this was a libertarian/independent paper. The stains are equally as bad for LEE as Mcmullen. Mcmullen is running as an independent. I guess we want a career politician back in office cause we don't believe mcstuffens and because he knew about torture. ok, makes total sense
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"Polls show Lee holding a slim lead, but McMullin is closing ground."
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Lee is around +5 in the polling.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2022/senate/ut/utah_senate_lee_vs_mcmullin-7735.html
And that's before the usual polling shift later in polls towards R.
Right. Polling data is readily available. I wonder why Reason writers can’t access it instead of relying on some lazy assed link?
Well, LGBTQIA+ Mormons have to have someone to vote for…
It should just be: LGBTQIA+M At least in this context.
Why is Mark Hamill endorsing a Senate candidate?
Mark Hamill loves to add chaos to the world. He's dark, nihilistic, with a sick sense of humor.
As long as he quits making shitty movies:
https://www.esquire.com/food-drink/food/a14608719/milking-scene-star-wars-the-last-jedi/
"In a recent interview with the Times, McMullin said Lee's involvement with the January 6 protests was "one of the most egregious betrayals of the American republic in its history." But history did not begin in January 2021. There's no need to downplay or dismiss Lee's involvement in Trump's attempt to cling to power, but a proper perspective on the Utah Senate race would show that both leading candidates have stains on their records."
What exactly are Mike Lee's stains outside of the Trump/Jan. 6 stuff? Other than Rand Paul he tends to be one of our more libertarian-leaning Senators. And unless a libertarian has abandoned all perspective there should be no reason to support a former CIA Agent with an evasive history on torture, whose been supportive of America's numerous interventions abroad, and supportive of the national security state here at home. Look if this was McMuffin versus Liz Cheney or Graham or Rubio, then I'd probably agree that both candidates have "stains" on their records. But that's not what we're talking about. It's silly to play the "both sides" game here.
https://reason.com/2015/05/20/gop-should-side-with-civil-libertarians/
https://theweek.com/articles/598792/mike-lee-most-interesting-republican-washington
Reason only has the hots for useless schlubs like Amash.
We had four years of Trump neglecting to drain the CIA swamp. So maybe Trump actually wasn't the "Most Libertarian President Evah!". Or maybe he was, but that's like being the world's tallest midget.
It's pretty silly to be criticizing McMullin from the Trump sidelines, when Trump was literally in charge of the CIA (an executive branch agency) for four full years and did jack shit about it.
So Trump's failure to reform the CIA/drain the swamp means that Evan McMullin would be a better Senator than Mike Lee from a libertarian perspective? I don't think I've ever made the claim that Trump was the "Most Libertarian President Evah!" nor did I really mention him in my post, beyond asking about Mike Lee's other "stains" outside of Jan. 6/Trump stuff.
The question for libertarians, especially those in Utah, is will McMullin pursue a libertarian agenda in the U.S. Senate? I haven't seen much evidence here yet. If you want to argue that Mike Lee has been lackluster or insufficient, you should probably make that point. And also why you think McMullin would be better?
"So Trump’s failure to reform the CIA/drain the swamp means that Evan McMullin would be a better Senator than Mike Lee from a libertarian perspective?..."
That's Brandyshit, who was more than happy to withhold any support for Trump because........
Brandyshit is an adolescent piece of shit with a total and complete focus on personality; actions and policy are for adults.
Fuck off and die, Brandyshit.
You seem to be missing something. You don't have to particularly like Donald Trump to think the anti-Donald Trump advocates, or at least the popular ones, are garbage. Sure, there were a couple of libertarians saying Trump sucked because he didn't get us out of our foreign adventurism in a meaningful way. And they'd have room for extra people in their meeting in a phone booth. Meanwhile, the far more popular criticism of Trump was that he wasn't all in enough on foreign adventurism. And, yeah, Evan McMullin was precisely one of those guys.
It’s pretty silly to be criticizing McMullin from the Trump sidelines, when Trump was literally in charge of the CIA (an executive branch agency) for four full years and did jack shit about it.
The agency that was spying on his campaign?
And actively working with Susan Rice and Obama to get Trump impeached. Yeah, that CIA.
Trump was literally in charge of the CIA (an executive branch agency) for four full years and did jack shit about it.
You mean outside of exposing them? I agree, Trump should have done more but that would have meant martial law.
I would venture that Trump has learned his lesson regarding firing deep staters. If he runs/wins in 2024, I expect many heads of deep state types to roll. Undoubtedly many will manage to dodge the axe, but I would expect a major shake up at CIA/FBI/DoD. Of course, in advance of the election you can expect these guys to work overtime to thwart Trump ahead of 2024.
They would never let that happen, he was almost impeached over firing Comey because while Democrats want to defund local enforcers they want federal enforcers to be untouchable.
This sounds like a variant of Ad Hominem to me. "OMG! He used to work for CIA! Everything CIA stands for McMullin must be for too! Otherwise why is he not in jail for whistleblowing state secrets!??!?!"
Copy/paste from Granite Liberty's post above:
"...a former CIA Agent with an evasive history on torture, whose been supportive of America’s numerous interventions abroad, and supportive of the national security state here at home.
Contrasted with Mike Lee, I know who I would vote for.
It's not ad hominem, and even making the claim that it is proves you don't actually know what an ad hominem is.
They're saying that he was literally in the region doing the job that normally involved torture, and he's basically saying he didn't do that but since it's the CIA there is no possible way to know for sure.
One mark against him are other CIA agents saying he was a great agent. That doesn't instill a hell of a lot of confidence considering what great agents working for the CIA were up to in the region at that exact time and place.
"It’s not ad hominem, and even making the claim that it is proves you don’t actually know what an ad hominem is..."
But one of many issues which confuse the adolescent asshole Brandyshit.
This article borders on "demonization" and I think "ugly history" is a bit of an overstatement. I feel certain that my opinions on various issues have evolved over time and assuming that the shift in McMullin's opinions about torture by the CIA are purely opportunistic seem unsupported to me. That conclusion may be correct but I found nothing in this article to support it objectively. On the other hand former deep state agents are automatically suspect these days, so maybe I'm wrong.
[comment deleted - I essentially rephrased a point from the article itself]
No one gives a shit about Ed McMuffin or whatever. He sucked in 2016. He sucks now.
Egg McMullin?
So am I to surmise that Reason does not support Mike Lee, arguably the second-most libertarian member of the Senate? (Granted that's a low bar, but still).
Not when there is an authoritarian pro government Deep State lackey fully in support of election fraud to support.
Putting aside the gist of the story, is causing to vomit really torturing? I've seen people get off rides at an amusement park, vomit, and then go on eating cotton candy and riding on lesser 'rides.' This is a really important subject - don't muddy the water with exaggeration. I've puked myself many times, and I never thought of it as torture. Nasty, yes. Torture, hell no.
"...the famously Trump-skeptical Mitt Romney..."
That's:
"The famously TDS-addled asshole Mitt Romney"
The famously power-desperate and unprincipled panderer Mitt Romney.
Mr. Boehm, stop making false statements like, "...former President Donald Trump's attempt to subvert the results of the 2020 election"? The facts are piling up and it's clear that those results are fraudulent. The Democrats stole that election.
“the famously Trump-skeptical Mitt Romney…”
That’s putting it pretty mildly, he was the only Republican that voted to convict him during impeachment part 1.
TReason.com sure likes to print ugly history stories about Republicans, while ignoring ugly history stories about Democrats like Warnock and Ilhan Omar. Partisan journalism is alive and well at TReason!