Activist Groups Demand Feds Require Nutrition Labels on Booze
Plaintiffs want the nanny state to nanny harder.

A federal lawsuit filed last week by the Center for Science in the Public Interest, the Consumer Federation of America, and the National Consumers League seeks to force alcohol beverage makers to include nutrition information—including alcohol content (ABV), calorie, and ingredient information—on their products. One food website suggested the suit was timed to coincide with President Joe Biden's proposed development of a national food strategy, which I largely panned last week.
The groups sued the government after the Treasury Department's Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau (TTB), which administers alcohol taxes and oversees most alcohol labeling, failed to take action in response to a 2003 petition and subsequent communications filed over nearly two decades. CSPI has pushed for mandatory nutrition labeling on alcohol beverage containers nearly since its inception in the early 1970s. As a Treasury document published earlier this year declares, "Treasury has considered ingredient labeling requirements since at least 1972, when the Center for Science in the Public Interest petitioned for it." Most recently, CSPI, CFA, and other groups wrote last year to Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen about what they say was a need to "improv[e] alcohol labeling to protect public health."
The plaintiffs are correct that the federal government has improperly ignored and failed to address or reject the issues raised in their petition. Their lawsuit also rightly notes the tangled and confusing web of federal alcohol labeling requirements, which can differ dramatically for various beverages (from beers and wines to ciders and seltzers) depending on factors such as which agency regulates them (TTB in most cases, FDA in others) and where they're sold (i.e., a local restaurant versus a chain restaurant).
But it's also true that one steadfast opponent of ABV labeling in years past was none other than… the Center for Science in the Public Interest. Indeed, CSPI submitted an amicus brief in Rubin v. Coors, a First Amendment lawsuit decided in 1995 by the Supreme Court that overturned a federal ban on the rights of the beer maker to provide honest and accurate ABV information on its product labels. In a 1995 Florida Law Review article on commercial speech published in the wake of that ruling, even "the government admitted that [Coors's] proposed alcohol content disclosure related to a lawful activity and was not misleading." But, the authors also noted, "one amicus made the argument that alcohol content disclosure is inherently misleading." That would be CSPI, which claimed that even though such disclosure would be "'technically true, such labeling would deceptively make beer appear to be less intoxicating than wine and liquor when in fact beer is not' because of its larger average serving size."
Thankfully, in a 9-0 opinion, the Supreme Court saw otherwise. Honest and accurate labels—and consumers—won the day.
In a column last year, I criticized CSPI and the Consumer Federation of America for sending a letter to the FDA seeking to restrict the First Amendment rights of the makers of Vizzy, a hard seltzer. Vizzy had marketed a seltzer that contained Vitamin C as containing Vitamin C. That truthful claim was too much for CSPI and CFA, who told the FDA, I summarized, that Vizzy "shouldn't be allowed to share truthful information about the addition of vitamin C with consumers because, well, alcohol is bad." (CFA's justification last year for hiding truthful information from consumers reads a lot like CSPI's Court-rejected explanation for doing the same in 1995.)
Ultimately, it appears the operating principle (if you want to call it that) of the litigants here, when it comes to booze, is largely Orwellian. It appears to be something like this: If the truth makes a product containing alcohol appear good, then the truth is bad. But if the truth makes a product containing alcohol appear bad, then the truth is good.
CSPI and others are right to point out that the state of alcohol beverage labeling can confuse consumers. They're also right that if labeling requirements exist, they should be consistent. But I wish they also saw the value of voluntary labeling options and how their own actions, over decades, have helped to muddy the waters for consumers and the drinking public.
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I am curious as to how much MSG is in a bottle of Coors Light.
Sarc will finally know his nutritional value.
Pathetic troll craves attention.
Haha! If only they sold self-awareness in a can.
They already list alcohol percentage - the only supplement I care about.
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MSG? Not sure about Coors, but Tsingtao….
Funny you should say that. Just a couple of decades ago, Center for Science in the Public Interest was on a tangent against Chinese food. Why this wasn't brought up 2 years ago as an example of "hate speech" against Chinese during the first outbreak of WuFlu from bat-soup is beyond me.
That’s not the slant they chose to put on it because the argument has too many chinks in it. Best to just nip that in the bud.
Shall I mute you? Sigh. Gone.
That pun was so hanoing..
OK, now you're chop sueying everybody in together. Don't you know China and Vietnam are phos? 🙂
You know who won thee last war between China and Vietnam? It was a Thai!!!
Ah Phuket, these are junk puns.
Offering boat sides I sea!
When you're a hooker in Bangkok, you get to see a lot of boat sides as well as chessboards. 🙂
https://youtu.be/rgc_LRjlbTU
Their argument was a road of lubbish and clap. 🙂
By the way, I meant to tell you; Check out the Comments on the video article on Kanye.
Evidently, Misek has a Nazi sockpuppet (but I repeat myself.) 🙂
ANOTHER Nazi?! Can someone call an Uber to get them Alles out of here?
They prefer to "Take The 'A is for Auschwitz' Train."
Btw, I too replied to Herr Misek’s roadie..
And a great reply it was! If it turns out they are two different people, Roadster could be the Creto to Misek's Baron Von Butcher:
Lancelot Link, Secret Chimp Intro (The 70s)
https://dai.ly/x22g0u4
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Trump Threatens Pulitzer Prize Board with Defamation Suit
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Did they ever rescind Walter Duranty’s prize?
No. And they made all sorts of fantastic excuses as to why fictional stories still count.
They Ink-a Dink-a Didn't.
A-cha-cha-cha-Ceauşescu!
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FCC to ban all new Huawei and ZTE equipment on national security grounds
SleepyJoe is xenophobic. Who knew?
Good. I work in telecom and those two companies have been stealing ip, tech, selling it to Iran and North Korea, and using massive amounts of slave labor.
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Judge rules federal law banning guns with serial numbers removed is unconstitutional
There's been quite a few gun wins in the courts lately.
Everyone knows ghost guns blow your lungs out.
You don't even need to aim. Boom. Lung shot.
I know they take my breath away
*swoon
I think it’s pretty easy to demonstrate that convicted violent felons don’t have the right to carry a gun.
If that prohibition is imposed as part of the convict's sentence, then it is very easy to demonstrate and defend. It's harder to defend when it's imposed extrajudicially.
If felons can be hired as beaters, why not as loaders or gun bearers ?
Speaking of guns...
The groups sued the government after the Treasury Department's Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau (TTB), which administers alcohol taxes and oversees most alcohol labeling, failed to take action in response to a 2003 petition and subsequent communications filed over nearly two decades.
Evidently, it's not enough to have BATFE Jackbooted Thugs. Now The Treasury needs a separate TTB band of Jackbooted Thugs.
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Why has a certain someone been trolling more than usual?
The FDA has confirmed a nationwide shortage of Adderall.
It explains a lot.
I haven’t been paying attention to that one.
I know, right? Years ago, I bought some Ginko Biloba to improve my memory…and I kept forgetting to take it!
I need some of that too! As an actual registered California voter, I truly CAN’T RECALL SHIT!!!
If you try to recall a dem your signiture is invalid
Might explain the uptick in SQRLSY posts.
I don't know about the other two organizations, but the Center for Science in the Public Interest are Naderite crackpots. These people are nuttier than a fruitcake.
Speaking of truth in advertising and factual labeling, the Center for Science in the Public Interest:
- Isn't a Center
- Doesn't Employ Scientists
- Isn't Interested in the Public
- All of the Above
It's got me all verklempt! Discuss!
Maybe THEY should be required to have a label.
Oh I’ve got a few labels for them—they’re just not what you’d call family-friendly
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10 wars, millions dead, 1 nobel peace prize, 0 sanctions.
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News: Sweden has called off a "Joint Investigation Team" with Germany and Denmark into the attacks on the Nordstream pipelines, referring to information too highly classified to share.
If the evidence pointed to the Russians, the Western alliance would want as many eyes on it as possible.
The Russians literally wanted this and the swedes said "no"
This was so much a western op. Likely us.
Said without evidence.
Except the swedes admitting it was an explosion, biden threatening it months ago, and it making zero sense for Russia to destroy their own leverage.
He also said likely. It is an opinion dummy.
No, it makes perfect sense for Putin/Russia to destroy the pipelines. I'm not saying they did, but it makes just as much sense as for Biden, if not more.
* Russians love sending messages, going back to before Stalin had Trotsky murdered in Mexico.
* Russia has perfected murder by Polonium, I think it was, delivered by umbrellas and door knobs. All messages more than useful.
* How many suicides have their been in Russia the last few months, all opponents of Putin? More messages.
* The Russian army has brought back the commissars who shoot conscripts in the back. More messages.
* The Ukraine campaign has been full of targeting civilians as messages.
* The Russian army has revived rape as a weapon; more messages.
* Putin and his sycophants have been tooting the nuclear war message since before invading Ukraine.
Russia and Putin are nothing but message centers. Blowing up pipelines which have outlived their gas transport usefulness is akin to sinking obsolete aircraft carriers as artificial reefs; you get one final use from them.
And blowing a few holes is by no means unrepairable. They are not very deep.
We will find out eventually. Are we laying odds? Making wagers?
They love leverage more than destroying their own leverage as a message. They were also already sending their message by not sending energy already.
Sorry, but it makes zero sense.
Today's message is that the Old Soviet Union has a new label: The New Eurasian Empire!
Now Fortified With Ultra-Nationalism and God!
Maybe Russians like sending messages, but doing this to "send a message" would make as much sense as Sheriff Bart "sending a message" to the townspeople of Rock Ridge by actually blowing his brains out.
Where's your evidence that it was the Russians, Mikey?
Cite?
Cite?
It's not like POTUS bragged about it in Feb 2022 on live TV. Oh wait.
That is interesting. Definitely points toward someone sabotaging the pipeline, very possibly a western power or entity of some kind.
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Muh private company
Earlier today I learned that @kanyewest was officially kicked out of JP Morgan Chase bank. I was told there was no official reason given, but they sent this letter as well to confirm that he has until late November to find another place for the Yeezy empire to bank.
I didn’t know he was a truck driver.
At least Ye gets his money. The banks that seized the truckers accounts wouldn't let them have their money either. The CEOs still aren't in jail.
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When you've hired ENB as a campaign consultant
Manhattan congressional candidate publishes a porn video to highlight his sex positive platform
Typical "sex positive" crap. Requires a list of safe disclaimers at the beginning.
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Waukesha Massacre Suspect Darrell Brooks Claims “I Do Not Identify By That Name”
And Liberals must now support them, since they’re being oppressed by namers.
Never mind that, what about the REAL culprit?? Does the SUV identify as such????
It identifies as a convertible.
Well ya can’t top that!
Fine then we will revert to nigger
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A top Pfizer exec admitted the company had no idea if their covid shot would stop covid transmission despite everyone in the Biden administration claiming it would.
How is this not fraud? We need lawsuits and criminal trials over these covid shots.
Wait. Aren’t we calling it the Trump vaccine now?
Mike and jfree call that fake news.
In my libertopia, elections are for binding contracts, not the candidates themselves, for several reasons:
* Voters can sue for violations
* Minors can't vote because they can't sign contracts
* Forces candidates to publish contracts; even they only promise to follow the DNC, it puts them on record
* Allows businesses, like the DNC, to put up contracts; or married couples, or anyone
Has Reason covered this at all yet?
Not until JournoList issues proper talking points.
That just means we’ll see it Monday morning from ENB.
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Hilariously painful interview, watching a CIA officer babbling that the letter he signed claiming the hunter laptop was Russian disinformation was still totally legit.
Saw that. Really bizzaro logic.
If the GOP had any balls, they’d fire everyone that signed that letter. Day 1 of new Congress next year.
That's a pretty big "if", Jason.
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WATCH: Biden vowed the US will take action on Saudi Arabia for refusing to lower oil prices before the election
“Nobody fucks with a Biden”
Brandon, General; don't forget Brandon.
Will the GOP have enough balls to impeach him? They keep saying, oh no, not Kammy. But she'll take the Dems even lower. Every time she opens her mouth, it's a word salad.
She can be impeached too.
And the new Speaker will be a republican.
Impeach Jackie too (as soon as someone finds her)!
You'll need a seance for that.
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@GeneralBrnovich’s office tells FBI & IRS that True The Vote, the group behind the debunked “2000 Mules” movie, lied about providing evidence to the AG’s Office, & says a “review of its financials may be warranted” due to all the money it raised off its election fraud claims.
Oh wow. The establishment power structure has gone fucking bananas.
It's like they can't understand how bad this looks and foresee the possible repercussions of their actions. A smart junta would've simply ignored the documentary, instead of going full Venezuela and trying to punish its creators.
Now they will have to get a new bank.
Yeah. I dont understand Bronivichs play here. TTV told the FBI they had given their hard drives to the AG office. Doubt they'd be stupid enough to lie to this politicized DoJ/FBI especially when the information is in the documentary. It is possible someone in his office so sat on the delivery as the state criminal office had some pretty partisan people.
establishment power structure has gone fucking bananas….
So it IS a recession!!
Coming soon: Depression.
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Education Department ‘best practices’ webinar: ‘Not all egg producers are women’
Some are chickens.
Most egg producers these days are corporations.
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Buttplug smiles
We're Heading for a Stagflationary Crisis Unlike Anything We've Ever Seen
Rig count up. No inflation. Economy great.
#TemporarilyFillingInForButtplug
Now renamed as spittintibaccyflation.
Paul Volker is probably spinning fast enough in his grave to power the entire state of Delaware.
Even I know it’s stagflation…and I don’t have a bachelors!
Stagflation is when they break out the blow-up dolls at a pre-wedding bachelor party. (DPing optional, though a nice addition for me.) 🙂
As long as it’s not Herr Misek’s inflatable Irma Grese doll…
I saw her Wiki page. Damn! She's so ugly, she'd make a freight train take a dirt road!
The Partizans could have used her picture to ground the trains going to the death camps! 🙂
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Biden: Don't Let Republicans Ruin This Great Economy
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January 6th was so horrifying and unexpected that Nancy Pelosi had an HBO documentary filmmaker following her the entire day
Also, Pelosi wanted to physically attack the President of the United States.
With Pelosi asking the generals to remove Trump from the chain of command, her threats of violence, Ray Epps, the film crew, the phony insurrection narrative, etc, things are looking pretty damn sketchy.
Don’t forget their filming of Mr Epps.
Never mind. You mentioned it.
Funny how Epps is nearly staring right at that window while waving the trunp flag. Looks like a scripted shot.
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The folks over at MSNBC really have no idea how they're going to live on this earth with Republicans
I'd say re-education camps for the deplorables but Sarcasmic doesn't understand the difference between those and Auschwitz.
It would be more like a cross between Xinjiang, Tule Lake, and those 'voluntary' Australian covid camps that white mike says never existed.
Example number I-lost-count of you telling a lie about me to goad me into defending myself, where you'll then call me a liar when I tell you what I really think.
They could kill themselves, I hear suicide is painless, and brings on many changes
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"the White House doesn’t think the war can be won, but refuses to open negotiations or “nudge” others to do so, what exactly is the end strategy?"
Eternal war and to keep the blue checks frightened, Matt.
SleepyJoe has been waiting a long time to set off “a big one”.
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Democrats outnumber Republicans 98 to 1 in Cornell humanities departments
The more you understand the massive bias in college professors, why would anybody that isn't already a progressive send their children to these indoctrination camps?
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Video: Sorry, that doesn’t work. French police swiftly remove Green activists who had glued themselves to the pavement in Paris
When these idiots glue themselves to whatever, they should just be cordoned off and left there.
I love how the one guy screams "Maman!" (mommy) after the gendarme pulls his hand away.
Was that even real? It didn't look like they were stuck on too tight.
Cut and paste
Nah. We can't let dirty Hippies, much less dirty French Hippies, block up traffic. It would draw flies too. 🙂
If it's Epoxy they're using, you could just pour Acetone nail polish remover on it and it would loosen the bond. Also. the fumes would make them too stoned to resist arrest. 🙂
That is awful for the police to do. They should instead join the protester and help them... By cementing them in
Ow there’s a concrete solution!
I drink for the nutrition!
Do you gaslight for nutrition?
CNN is now a right wing site with claims like inflation not slowing down.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/13/business/fed-interest-rates-inflation-nightcap/index.html
Trying to win back viewers by reporting actual news instead of reading DNC press releases? That's a bold ploy.
Acosta is rumored to be next laid off.
HAPERINFLATION!
#MoreButtplugInsights
They must be part of wingnut.com.
Also joining the wing nut Maga kooks is Time (per above link). I’m not even sure how much we can trust NPR anymore—frightening times indeed! Hopefully we can all remain safe and untriggered if we stick to MSNBC!
Reason Reacharound
https://notthebee.com/article/a-minnesota-man-was-arrested-for-violently-beating-a-woman-because-she-was-wearing-an-american-flag-shirt
This Minnesota man stabbed and beat a woman to a pulp because she was wearing an American flag shirt
Remember the real terrorists are conservatives.
Political violence is ONLY on the right. Keep repeating it. Ignore your lying eyes.
THE WAR AGAINST WOMEN CONTINUES!! There, you’ve got your Talking Point for this. Go forth and spread enlightenment!
Reason Reacharound
https://thegrayzone.com/2022/10/10/ukrainian-kerch-bridge/
The Grayzone has obtained an April 2022 presentation drawn up for senior British intelligence officers hashing out an elaborate scheme to blow up Crimea’s Kerch Bridge with the involvement of specially trained Ukrainian soldiers. Almost six months after the plan was circulated, Kerch Bridge was attacked in an October 8th suicide bombing apparently overseen by Ukraine’s SBU intelligence services.
Detailed proposals for providing “audacious” support to Kiev’s “maritime raiding operations” were drafted at the request of Chris Donnelly, a senior British Army intelligence operative and veteran high ranking NATO advisor. The wide-ranging plan’s core component was “destruction of the bridge over the Kerch Strait.”
Documents and correspondence plotting the operation were provided to The Grayzone by an anonymous source.
The truck bombing of the Kerch Bridge differed operationally from the plot sketched therein. Yet, Britain’s evident interest in planning such an attack underscores the deep involvement of NATO powers in the Ukraine proxy war. At almost precisely the time that London reportedly sabotaged peace talks between Kiev and Moscow in April this year, British military intelligence operatives were drawing up blueprints to destroy a major Russian bridge crossed by thousands of civilians per day.
Citizen Media News - MINDY ROBINSON - Route 91: Uncovering the Cover Up of The Vegas Mass Shooting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqYLQE6xxzk
This is a well produced documentary by Libertarian Mindy Robinson about the Vegas mass shooting. When I went back to the page I found that,
"The following content has been identified by the YouTube community as inappropriate or offensive to some audiences.
Viewer discretion is advised"
Well worth watching before it gets disappeared.
Where’s Jackie? She here?
Would that be Full Metal Jackie with the shoulders that go up in "Meh"?
I think she left with Ritchie.
Keep digging…The plot thickens!!
If it’s ok for the government to steal more money from me than I spend on food, clothing, or shelter, then I assume they can require labels on booze.
Booze is healthy because it’s vegan, right?
Sure!
Bottoms up, then!
Not the bacon chocolate milk stout.
I need that in my life.
I need proof.
Intent, motive and means: People serving life sentences in U.S. prisons have been convicted on weaker grounds than the circumstantial evidence against Washington for the attack on the Nord Stream pipelines.
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/10/12/scott-ritter-pipelines-v-usa/
“After completing the crime scene investigation,” the Swedes reported, “the Swedish Security Service can conclude that there have been detonations at Nord Stream 1 and 2 in the Swedish economic zone,” noting that the blasts had caused “extensive damage” to the lines.
The Swedes also declared that they had retrieved some materials from the incident site, which were being analyzed to determine who was responsible. This evidence, the Swedes stated, “strengthened the suspicions of gross sabotage.”
While all parties involved with the Nord Stream pipeline “sabotage” concur that the cause was manmade, no nation outside Russia has named a suspect. (Russian President Vladimir Putin has attributed the attack, which Russia has labeled an act of “international terrorism,” on the “Anglo-Saxons” — the British and Americans.)
Biden dismissed the Russian claims. The pipeline attack “was a deliberate act of sabotage and the Russians are pumping out disinformation and lies,” the U.S. president said. “At the appropriate moment, when things calm down, we’re going to be sending divers down to find out exactly what happened. We don’t know that yet exactly.”
But we do know. Biden told us himself. So did Secretary of State Antony Blinken. So did the U.S. Navy. Between the three, we have incontrovertible evidence of intent, motive and means — more than enough needed to prove guilt beyond any reasonable doubt in a court of law.
Intent
Speaking to reporters on Feb. 7, Biden declared “If Russia invades, that means tanks or troops crossing the border of Ukraine again, there will no longer be a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.”
When a journalist asked how Biden could do such a thing, given that Germany was in control of the project, Biden retorted: “I promise you: We will be able to do it.”
No prosecutor has ever had a more concise statement of intent — a veritable confession before the event — than this. Joe Biden should be taken at his word.
Motive
When asked by reporters on Oct. 3 to comment on the Nord Stream pipeline attacks, Blinken responded in part by noting that the attack was “a tremendous opportunity to once and for all remove the dependence on Russian energy and thus to take away from Vladimir Putin the weaponization of energy as a means of advancing his imperial designs.”
Blinken further declared that the U.S. would work to alleviate the “consequences” of the pipeline attack on Europe, alluding to the provision of U.S. LNG at exorbitant profit margins for U.S. suppliers — another “opportunity.”
Means
In early June, in support of a major NATO exercise known as BALTOPS (Baltic Operations) 2022, the U.S. Navy employed the latest advancements in unmanned underwater vehicle, or UUV, mine hunting technology to be tested in operational scenarios.
According to the U.S. Navy, it was able to evaluate “emerging mine hunting UUV technology,” focusing on “UUV navigation, teaming operations, and improvements in acoustic communications all while collecting critical environmental data sets to advance the automatic target recognition algorithms for mine detection.”
One of the UUV’s used by the U.S. Navy is the Seafox.
In September, specialized U.S. Navy helicopters — the MH-60R, capable of employing the Seafox UUV — were tracked flying off the Danish island of Bornholm, directly over the segments of the Nordstream 1 and 2 pipelines that were later damaged in the sabotage incidents.
To quote TASS,
“On November 6, 2015, the NATO Seafox mine disposal unmanned underwater vehicle was found during the scheduled visual inspection of the Nord Stream 1 gas pipeline. It lay in space between gas pipelines, clearly near one of strings. NATO said the underwater mine disposal vehicle was lost during exercises. Such NATO exercises when the combat explosive device turned out to be exactly under our gas pipeline. The explosive device was deactivated by Swedish Armed Forces at that time.”
If you don't want to read the whole thing just read the last paragraph above. In 2015 A U.S. unmanned vehicle was found on the sea floor lying between Nord Stream 1 pipelines. Explosive deactivated by the Swedes.
Well, White Mike was squealing at Paul for evidence above. I wonder if he'll accept it.
Give a man a black nightgown, a seafood mallet, and a tiny taste of official power, and his true character will quickly be revealed.
https://www.wral.com/mask-dispute-lands-potential-harnett-county-juror-in-jail/20520640/
The good citizens of Harnett need to dip Judge Charles Gilchrist in paving tar and chase him out of the county with a horse whip.
Robbie Coltrane has died.
I’m sure all of those on The Right Side Of History™ will be keen to share their condolences while his friends and family are grieving.
Oh, wait…
Robbie Coltrane was a wonderful actor. RIP.
The government in the 1970s decided that we needed food labels, food pyramids etc based on 'the science's. The problem was that even the scientist told them most of the studies were not mature enough or strong enough to base policy on (most were correlative and preliminary studies at that). Since then obesity has skyrocketed as have metabolic disorders. So, basically government policies on nutrition work as
well as every other government program, they appear to make things worse.
Also, I don't think this will turn out the way the activist think. Many alcoholic beverages actually are full of vitamins and minerals considered vital for human health. They can also have decent levels of protein (especially unfiltered beverages).
we are working to provide best nutrition to people in water. We are working in water purifier company to make the water filters for drinking for purification,
So, here's the story about the supposed "ghost flights" that transport migrants around the country.
https://archive.ph/dw2kj
It is not some clandestine plot to spread migrants around the country for some shady purpose. It is instead the result of the *legal obligation* of the federal government to put unaccompanied minors in shelters with which the federal government has a contractual relationship.
Here is the actual law that obligates the federal government to perform this task:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/110th-congress/house-bill/7311
Note that this law was passed in 2008. With overwhelming bipartisan support. Meaning that Trump did EXACTLY THE SAME THING, or at least was legally obligated to do so.
This entire campaign to take these flights and to twist them into some sinister narrative of "Biden's dumping illegals into your neighborhood in the dead of night!" is just one more example of how Team Red has no qualms peddling xenophobic bigoted tropes about the scary brown people defiling the virtue of towns in the heartland. And of course they cynically do it right before an election in order to get maximum fear value to drive voters to the polls. That's been the defining characteristic of Team Red since at least 2014: fear of brown people.
Oh, yeah. How do you explain that I heard from a guy who heard from another guy that the flights are always at midnight on nights with a full moon!
"So, here’s the story about the supposed “ghost flights”...
actual law that obligates the federal government to perform this task"
So they're not "supposed" then? You're having a hard time keeping your narratives straight.
Also, your quoted legislation doesn't seem to have anything to do with 90% of the flights. They weren't about repatriating alien children. Most were adults.
I'm unsure what you're trying to pull here. Trust White Mike to come in with the assist though.
Most were adults.
Cite?
Well, it's looking like another 50/50 Senate.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/10/15/democrats-even-senate-midterms-00061961
You're going to need an awful lot of electoral fortifying to keep that dream alive, Jeffy. Better start filling out those ballots now.
I know, right? The only way Team Red could lose is by fraud! It couldn't be because a lot of voters are genuinely repulsed by Team Red's election denials or their horrible treatment of migrants or their generally self-centered and narcissistic attitude towards America in general, or their shitty candidates like Dr. Oz or Hershel Walker. No no, it must be fraud.
Most people aren't deep blue cultists and know most of what you said isn't true.
Speaking of shitty candidates and Dr. Oz, isn't he running against an actual brain-damaged stroke victim who currently can't understand speech?
Poor glass-houses-throwing-stones-Jeffy. You could at least make it hard for me.
Arizona AG asks for investigation of right-wing lie-peddler True The Vote.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/10/14/arizona-ag-true-the-vote-00061973
Difficulty: Arizona AG is a Republican.
The whole thing is a grift.
Apparently the True The Vote folks have delivery receipts with a signature from Brnovich's office. I look forward to revisiting this topic with you in a month.
Well, we all already know that you believe everything that they say because you lack the critical thinking skills to try to ascertain the truth for yourself. So I have no doubt that they claim to be correct and that you accept every word that they way.
Great retort. Copied to remind you about it in a week or two.
Everything you've ever posted here has fallen apart. Interested how you can continue to preserver after the thirteen-thousandth time. Is it the fifty-cents?
"Difficulty: Arizona AG is a Republican"
So's Romney and Cheney. Gabbard is a Democrat.
Isn't the Arizona AG the subject of much scorn at Reason over the Backpage debacle trial?
I thought you didn't care about teams. Who cares if he's a Republican or Democrat? Does that have any weight on whether his decisions are right or wrong?
Who cares if he’s a Republican or Democrat?
That’s correct, the only thing that matters is skin color.
Have you seen the commenters around here? Quite a few of them care very much about tribes.
Reason Rundown
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At least 269 K-12 educators arrested on child sex crimes since January
If this were Catholic priests it'd be on every station 24/7.
Well well aren't you a little shithead.
I post links that make you mad, so you try to trigger me by insulting me.
You really are just a middle-school mean girl. What a loser.
The other day he said he doesn't lie about people in the third person in his posts. That was good comedy.
Where's the lie, trollboy?
I listed three the last time you asked. All I had to do was scroll up and copy whatever you wrote to or about me. Easy peasy.
"I post links that make you mad, so you try to trigger me by insulting me."
You've been supporting this shit hardcore for months now. Why are you suddenly pretending to be mad?
And I did this analysis the last time this subject came up.
The percentage of K-12 educators who are convicted of child sex crimes is roughly the same percentage as in the overall population.
It's terrible that anyone commits child sex crimes, but it is also not particularly unique to K-12 educators.
Pointing out this statistic, without the relevant comparison to everyone else, is just an underhanded way to smear educators in general as being associated with child sex crimes.
Your tribe's attack on educators as a class - not just public school ones, but all of them - is really quite bizarre. Why do you want to undermine trust in education as a profession? Who do you expect to teach kids? Do you think society really would be better off if kids are taught by "educators" that the Constitution was written by Jesus, the Earth is 6000 years old, and cell phones cause cancer?
Premise: The vast majority of educators lean left in their politics.
Premise: Anyone left of Trump is the enemy.
Premise: It's ok to smear people with lies as long as they are the enemy.
Conclusion: Educators are all child molesters.
Poor Sarcasmic. You're really a one-trick-pony, huh. That didn't even really make sense, but you tried your damndest.
Here's an "E" for effort I guess.
"And I did this analysis the last time this subject came up."
Great. But I don't believe it, so post it.
"The percentage of K-12 educators who are convicted of child sex crimes is roughly the same percentage as in the overall population."
I don't believe you. Show us.
Why don't these activists buy the companies and put the labels on just the way they want them to be?
My how the comment thread goes off tangent !
I see no problem with disclosing information about food or beverages I'm consuming. Seriously who's ox is being gored here?
If a beverage or food product maker is not doing comprehensive testing downstream from the production line I would say that is a bad thing. I thought that information requirement was universal. If they have to put it on the cereal box, why not on the can of beer?
Alcohol is not good for us, the government has a right and in fact an obligation to ban or at least severely restrict anything that isn't good for us. Alcohol should not have labels and should be required to be in plain unmarked containers covered in health warnings.
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