The Iranian Protests Were Not Made in the U.S.A.
The onerous sanctions regime carried out by the Trump and Biden administrations has done immeasurable harm in Iran.

Iranians in Tehran and beyond have been in the streets for nearly two weeks, protesting the death of a young woman, Mahsa Amini, who died in police custody after she was arrested for wearing her headscarf too loosely. As with the many other anti-government protests in Iran over the last decade, Western hopes are high that this time it will be different, that a younger and more liberal generation of Iranians will finally succeed in overthrowing or at least significantly reforming the oppressive theocratic state that has controlled the country for nearly half a century.
I'm not sure those hopes will be realized, as much as I share them. But however these protests go, I do feel confident saying this: They do not vindicate "maximum pressure," the onerous sanctions regime instituted by former President Donald Trump when he withdrew the United States from the Iran nuclear deal in 2018 and continued by President Joe Biden to this day. They do not prove that recent U.S. policy toward Iran has been moral or wise.
That's not to say maximum pressure has had no effects on life in Iran—far from it. U.S. policy has been very effective over the past few years in adding to ordinary Iranians' suffering, damaging our reputation as a trustworthy actor and exemplar of liberty, and ensuring that, if the Iranian government is indeed weakened or overthrown, the country will destabilize with a stockpile of enriched uranium it would not have had the deal remained intact.
The idea that broad sanctions will motivate ordinary people to demand positive changes from their governments makes sense on paper. If U.S. sanctions make people cold and hungry, and Washington explains that the cold and hunger will go away if only the government of the targeted country will do X, Y, and Z, then, it stands to reason, the people of that country will push their rulers to do X, Y, and Z. Facing mass discontent, the government will comply, and the sanctions will go away, and U.S. interests will be advanced via a win for democracy.
But in practice, broad sanctions rarely work this way. Indeed, research suggests they only rarely work at all. Targeted governments often have a strong sense of national interest which makes defying U.S. pressure worth the domestic turmoil it brings. Sometimes, as has happened in Iran, sanctions rally nationalist sentiment and strengthen hardliners by giving the public and their oppressors a common enemy in the United States. (People are not so stupid as to fail to realize that whatever reason is given for the sanctions, their direct cause is a decision in Washington.) And, often, the public has very limited power to force their government to change course, to do the desired X, Y, and Z. It's not as if Iranian protesters can simply vote out Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, renegotiate the nuclear deal themselves, or organize a national referendum doing away with the modesty laws that landed Amini in police custody.
And that raises another strike against the case for crediting maximum pressure with sparking Iranians' demands for more freedom: The instigating event for these demonstrations is about personal liberty, not shortages and financial hardship. Iranians do protest economic troubles, including over this past summer, often mixing critique of Tehran and Washington. The starting point here is different, though. Indeed, what makes this round of protests so tantalizing as the possible start of a new era is that they're about much more than shortages.
Yet if Iranians trying to liberate their own country were looking for a "well-wisher to [their] freedom and independence," the "benignant sympathy" of an example of governance better than their own, U.S. policies—maximum pressure, along with Trump's exit from the nuclear deal and Biden's unwillingness to make fairly minor timing concessions to restore it—have hardly situated us well for the role. Instead, rending that diplomatic framework has painted Washington as unreliable and capricious, more interested in exercising U.S. power than taking practical steps to advance peace, liberty, or stability.
And if these protests do succeed in toppling or significantly weakening the regime in Tehran, potentially placing it in open domestic conflict with parties as yet unknown, Trump's blow to stability should be judged even more egregious. Before the U.S. exit from the nuclear deal, outside observers confirmed Iran was compliant with its terms, which included strict limits on its stockpile of enriched uranium. Since 2019, however, after the U.S. withdrawal the previous year, Iran has gradually moved out of compliance with the deal as well, acquiring more than 10 times the permitted amount of uranium that it was allowed under the deal and enriching it to 60 percent instead of the permitted 3.67 percent.
If the regime were to fall, where would that material go? We don't know yet, but we do know Iran may be on the precipice of an internal crisis with an added element of risk which would not be a factor had U.S. policy not been so reckless.
At this stage, unfortunately, there's no easy way to undo the harm the Trump and Biden administrations have done here. It takes time to restore trust and reputation, and nuclear diplomacy remains in its four-year limbo. Aside from granting permission on Friday for Elon Musk to offer Iranians internet access through his Starlink technology, the Biden administration largely has not used its year and a half in office to lift sanctions that have made life measurably more miserable for the Iranian people. Now the administration is reportedly considering adding even more sanctions to signal its disapproval of Tehran's brutal response to the protests.
If the Iranian people win their freedom, it will be no thanks to Washington—no thanks to Trump, and no thanks to Biden.
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damaging our reputation as a trustworthy actor and exemplar of liberty
LOL! Not throwing money at threatening bullies who violently oppress their own people is damaging our reputation as exemplars of liberty!
So, are we abusing the stock photos or is that the only photo of the protests that's been allowed out of Iran?
So, are we abusing the stock photos or is that the only photo of the protests that’s been allowed out of Iran?
Double-LOL: "Women protest in Iran by *mostly peacefully* taking off their hijabs."
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>>Not throwing money ... damaging our reputation as exemplars of liberty!
Bonnie is a fan of the Valerie Jarrett Approach
Our reputation as an examplars of liberty and a trustworthy actor?
That’s funny. I distinctly remember reading on his very website at the Iranians mistrust us and despise us because we helped overthrow their “democratically elected“ leader six decades ago. (Never mind that this “democratically elected leader“ had very undemocratically canceled an election literally in mid vote because he learned that he was about to be democratically voted out of office.) When did we suddenly become trusted exemplars of liberty?
"Never mind that this “democratically elected leader“ had very undemocratically canceled an election literally in mid vote because he learned that he was about to be democratically voted out of office."
Funny how they always fail to mention that bit.
My math stinks. It was seven decades ago.
And Mossaddegh wanted to nationalize the oil industry in Iran. Not to defend the Shah Reza Palavi, but how was Mossaddegh great shakes either?
Bonnie Xtian, as well as Nardz, Goldie, Misek, and all the Putineers don't know which side their bread's buttered on. Ukraine wants to help defeat Iran's Jihad machine which Putin supports:
Problem of Iran-made drones already being solved – Ukraine’s Defence Minister
— THURSDAY, 29 SEPTEMBER 2022, 11:42
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/09/29/7369607/
We turned to our partners, in particular, those who are afraid to give us weapons but still have good expertise. I told them: ‘We will give you their [Iranian drones’] parts; examine them and give us the suppression systems. And a number of countries that did not want to give [us] weapons became interested in this proposal."
Background: Since September, the mass use of Iran-made kamikaze drones by the Russian army began in the south of Ukraine.
Yurii Ihnat, spokesman for Ukraine’s Air Force, said that the Ukrainian military shot down Iranian-manufactured drones launched by Russia.
We must send money to those that wish us dead? That sounds stupid
How much of that pallet of cash Obama sent over get into the hands of the revolutionary guard again.
my real Iranian friend is pissed but at our immigration system because his wife is stuck over there. told him years ago to walk her in from Mexico but he's trying to do it the right way ... while she's ducking bullets in the streets
>>withdrew the United States from the Iran nuclear deal in 2018
if the partner to your deal is violating the deal to your face do you have a deal?
RTFA
Before the U.S. exit frorm the nuclear deal, outside observers confirmed Iran was compliant with its terms, which included strict limits on its stockpile of enriched uranium. Since 2019, however, after the U.S. withdrawal the previous year, Iran has gradually moved out of compliance with the deal as well, acquiring more than 10 times the permitted amount of uranium that it was allowed under the deal and enriching it to 60 percent instead of the permitted 3.67 percent.
Fatass Donnie put Iran on the Nuke fast track.
You were banned for posting links to child pornography.
" outside observers confirmed Iran was compliant with its terms, which included strict limits on its stockpile of enriched uranium."
Except that it wasn't. That was a lie and the Obama administration and it's media allies deliberately ignored reports to the contrary.
You fell for Trump's Big Lie.
Fail. You don't get to call independent news sources liars.
preach!
"if the partner to your deal is violating the deal to your face do you have a deal?"
Bonnie and progressives say Yes. The term useful idiot is lost on them.
the country will destabilize with a stockpile of enriched uranium it would not have had the deal remained intact.
So Libertarians for committing 330,000,000 Americans to unilateral deals made by unaccountable guys in suits now?
Sanctions don’t motivate people to revolt. That is true. Sanctions do, however, deprive the regime of the ability to pay their security forces to shoot those who do revolt, bribe others into not revolting and do things like fund revolutions and terrorism in places like Lebanon.
Nice straw man Bonnie. You are going to fit right in at Reason.
And the inverse logic, paying off someone who threatens you and abuses their own people, is fraught with stolen bases and obvious immoral acts.
Umm...
Iran has had nuclear ambitions for a very long time. It has been in the process of acquiring and developing some manner of a nuclear program long before Trump was a twinkle in the New York Times' eye in relation to presidential ambitions.
1982. I know, that was like when Culture Club was the hottest band and stuff. People weren't even ALIVE back then!
How dare you expect the author to know the basic facts of the situation. She got the narrative right. Who cares if the facts are wrong?
It's certainly reasonable to argue that sanctions have been ineffective, counterproductive, cruel, inhumane, and bad policy. But to suggest that whatever sanctions kicked in during The Era of Trump as the cause of Iran's woes is to be grossly ignorant of history. You do know that Iran existed as a country AND the US has had a contentious relationship with it before Jack Dorsey started Twitter, right?
No she doesn’t.
I mean ... there is question
People weren’t even ALIVE back then!
Of the U-235 enriched back then, only, like, half is left.
The half life of Journolismings collective memory is somewhere between that of the Highland Midge and Common House Mosquito.
"1982. I know, that was like when Culture Club was the hottest band and stuff. People weren’t even ALIVE back then!"
I wasn't!
you missed out.
Music ended in 1989. Prove me wrong.
The Bends.
As someone who was fairly convinced music ended in the 80s, who didn’t like them as a band then, doesn’t much like them as a band now, and wouldn’t pay to see them live, I would still have to disagree with pretty much anyone who said they don’t play music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD-E-LDc384
Also, if we put a hard stop at 1989, I feel pretty confident saying music would be incomplete without:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2AC41dglnM
I think it limped along into the 00s before needing life support. There’s ( literally) a couple new bands I get excited about new releases from. But even they’re mostly really good at being derivative of earlier sounds. Not necessarily blazing new ground.
And I got screwed out of seeing both of them earlier this year thanks to DC’s virtue signaling about showing door guys your medical history. Long After it was admitted and obvious that vax status has nothing to do with spread.
Uh, people weren't alive in the overwhelming bulk of time in the Natural Univrrse M'Lady!
*Tips Boy George hat.* 😉
Very briefly, because I myself am involved with Iranian human rights even though I am a white non-Iranian (a KHIKKI as they call us) and a shit show has broken out thanks to that MOTHER FUCKED UP Khomeinist regime ( they’re called IRI—-Islamic Republic of Iran. Iranian peeps and their culture are awesome actually—do NOT conflate that with the IRI ass wipes) Iranians put this together: HEY AYATOLLAH LEAVE THOSE KIDS ALONEhttps://youtu.be/OIP38eq-ywc
Ackshuyally, I thought Iranians were considered "white" too. (Damn! I can't keep up with all this Identitarian shit!)
Anywho, though I can't access the video without signing in, which means signing up for YouTube (*Yeech!*) I am very aware that Iranians are not the same as their Mullahs and Ayatollahs and many consider Islam an alien imposition on their society and culture.
I know an Iranian man whose family came to the U.S. after the Mullahs and Ayatollahs came to power and he ended up owning several convenience stores, a laundry, and rental homes in the span of just 20 years. He came to escape evil, did good, and ended up doing very well.
When 9/11 struck, he and his family condemned it in the strongest possible terms and hoped we got the bastards who did it! Other Iranians back in the "old country" also held candlelight vigils for the annihilated, so that shows their kindness too.
As an example of his wild, wooly, Secular ways, the Iranian I know also sold one of his stores and before he did he asked me: "Hey, Enco! This place is held up with two big steel poles! Ya think it would make a good strip club?"
I replied Bugs Bunny style; "Eeeeh! It's a possibility!" 🙂
The Iranian Protests Were Not Made in the U.S.A.
Allah forbid. Protesting against mandatory face coverings is Insurrection.
I'm pretty sure this is the result of the 1953 CIA orchestrated coup which ousted the democratically elected government and installed the dictatorial Shah but it's not America's fault.
Thank you, Irib! Look up Mousadegh and the whole coup business and decide if they’re the deciding players in Khomeini’s disastrous rise to power.
BTW…You know who else’s rise to power was disastrous?
Joe Biden?
Yes . Anyone else?
Because no leftist has ever been elected and then turned the place into a communist hell hole. Nope, if only the US had let the communists stay in power everything would be hunky dory.
Like it's hunky dory now?
I believe that's the objective of "sanctions".
They are still less harmful than dropping bombs, which is what the US might otherwise do.
This fvcking rag is a complete clown show
If the Iranian people win their freedom, it will be no thanks to Washington
That's the way it should be. And in fact, the moaning about us not helping them is nothing more than repackaged neocon drivel.
damaging our reputation as a trustworthy actor and exemplar of liberty,
Holy fuck, like it was ripped directly from the Bulwark.
The best and fastest way to make positive changes in other countries is to trade freely and openly with them. Let their people see how much better off they could be with a little more freedom.
Golly. That is exactly what Germany chose to do for 50 years with the Soviet Union and later Russia. They even had a name for it - Wandel durch Handel - change through trade. They even seriously believe that the Cold War ended and the Soviet Union became capitalist because of their [German] foreign policy.
Turns out - the Russians just wanted money and bigger powers that were dependent pussies.
The Iranian Protests Were Not Made in the U.S.A.
Nothing is made in the USA anymore.
that a younger and more liberal generation of Iranians will finally succeed in overthrowing or at least significantly reforming the oppressive theocratic state that has controlled the country for nearly half a century.
There's a ton of countries - including the US - where the young are failing to wrench power out of the clammy scrawny claws of the old. It's pathetic actually.