It's a Mistake To Turn Away Russian Civilians Fleeing Conscription
Several countries are rejecting Russians fleeing forced military service. But offering them refuge would help protect dissidents and deprive Putin of critical manpower.

In a national address last week, Russian President Vladimir Putin outlined new wartime measures to bring 300,000 civilians into military service as the Russian invasion of Ukraine drags on. Though authorities expressed that only Russians with military service and fewer than three children would be brought up to fight, this doesn't seem to be true in practice. Thousands of Russians reportedly have already received draft papers and journeyed to training locations.
Others, unwilling to fight the Kremlin's war and fearing the possibility of a broader national draft, have decided to flee. Few nations still operate flights with Russia, but routes to those destinations quickly sold out following Putin's announcement. Google searches for "how to leave Russia" surged.
Rather than opening the door to the civilians fleeing forced military service, many of Russia's neighboring countries are turning them away. Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Reinsalu said that being drafted into the army "does not constitute sufficient grounds for being granted asylum in another country."* Latvian Foreign Minister Edgars Rinkevics cited "security reasons" when he announced that Latvia wouldn't "issue humanitarian or other types of visas to those Russian citizens who avoid mobilization." Poland and the Baltic states all say they won't offer asylum to unwilling Russian conscripts.
But this approach is misguided for a host of reasons, and any nation opposed to Putin's brutality would do well to take in the Russians fleeing it.
For one, as Volokh Conspiracy blogger and George Mason University professor Ilya Somin points out, Putin's "mobilization policy was obviously brought on by Russian manpower shortages and accumulating setbacks on the battlefield." Civilians who otherwise might have had escape options could instead be forced to replenish the forces fighting in Ukraine. Every Russian denied asylum represents an additional pair of boots that Putin could deploy to the frontlines.
There's also the problem of ascribing collective responsibility. Many foreign leaders who support closing borders to Russian civilians castigate them for not doing more to stop the sins of their government. But thousands of Russians have turned out to protest the brutal invasion of Ukraine, only to be met with Putin's brutality themselves. Demonstrators detained after protesting the new mobilization order could face up to 15 years in jail. There clearly isn't unanimous domestic support for the war, and trapping protesters within Russia's borders alongside the actual perpetrators of the conflict is unjust (not to mention a policy that runs the risk of alienating civilians from the West).
Several men who fled Russia told NPR that people who protest the war and mobilization end up arrested, beaten, and then drafted. Dissidents have reportedly turned to harming others—a Russian conscript shot a military officer today in apparent protest of the mobilization order—and even themselves as they try to avoid military service. Google searches for "how to break an arm at home" surged in Russia after Putin gave his mobilization address. Lacking an escape route, this is the desperation some Russian conscripts now feel.
In contrast to much of the European Union, Germany is charting a prudent path when it comes to Russians fleeing forced military service. German Justice Minister Marco Buschmann tweeted, "Many Russians are leaving their homeland—anyone who hates Putin's path and loves liberal democracy is welcome in Germany." German Interior Minister Nancy Faeser similarly noted that "deserters threatened with serious repression can, as a rule, obtain international protection in Germany."
That's a crucial guarantee for many Russians, as Putin just last week signed laws that will punish anyone who deserts, surrenders, or resists service with up to a 10-year sentence. "Russians trying to flee Putin's war need the opportunity to exit, especially since it's dangerous to use their voices in their home country," writes Reason's Eric Boehm. "Let Russians vote with their feet."
Putin's war is a brutal and unjustified one. But that shouldn't lead nations to punish Russian civilians. Rather, offering refuge to those fleeing forced military service would both help protect dissidents and deprive Putin of critical manpower as his invasion falters. "If you are against the war," as one civilian told NPR after fleeing Russia, "the best thing to do is try to get out from there."
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Ukraine hosts Russian population. Russia uses Russian population as predicate for invasion. Fiona advocates other countries host Russian populations. Cycle repeats.
In 2014 the first Russians to attack infrastructure in the Crimea were 'tourists.' So, watch out.
Yes, it's very likely Russia will invade the United States because some Russians live here. Excellent analysis.
Not even Fiona was saying to transport them to the US. I did not either.
You should have at least read the article before snark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvggevL_1OE
The people leaving now aren't dissidents. A few days ago they were perfectly ok with someone else doing the killing and saying/doing nothing. Now they aren't but only because they don't want to participate.
“Several countries are rejecting Russians fleeing forced military service. But offering them refuge would help protect dissidents and deprive Putin of critical manpower.”
Or, they could pick up a rifle and clean their own house.
This wasn't supposed to be a reply to you but I'll leave it because I'm lazy - the edit button forces me to face this honestly:)
And you're right - these aren't dissidents. Of course the argument I would have made would be that these are people fleeing 'enslavement', but that would be a libertarian argument and Reason is all pragmatist lately.
Are you leaving to US, if not, you are perfectly ok with the US killing people in Syria, Somalia, etc. based on your own bs standard.
Are you doing anything about it? Talking in online forums? Then yes, you're ok with letting it happen and you are not a dissident.
Correct. The dissidents all left in February, March and April. This lot were perfectly happy with what was being done in Ukraine until there was a risk to themselves.
When they get to whatever nation takes them they'll spend their days whining about how repressed they are by their host nation and demanding another "special military operation" to change that.
Yes, we need more traitors and chickens.
Snowden is now a Russian citizen.
Did he get drafted yet?
Let them get illegally sex trafficked here like Eastern Europeans have been doing for decades. Why should they get to jump the line?
Fleeing enslavement does not make one a traitor or chicken.
It makes sense both for large NATO countries to accept them and for small countries to refuse them. Russia is never going to invade Germany. But if Estonia takes Russians it could trigger Russia to invade (now, or in three decades) and who knows whether we will protect them. The article should point this this material fact driving the decisions for smaller or non-NATO countries.
Why in the world would NATO countries accept large numbers of young Russian males?
Why do you think the US military-industrial complex insisted on incorporating the Baltic nations into NATO? They are trigger happy.
Why in the world would NATO countries accept large numbers of young Russian males?
So Putin can't give them weapons and send them to the front.
So Putin can’t give them weapons and send them to the front.
And in what way is that our business? And why just Russia? Why not let in all the Chinese recruits? All the Yemenis? Pakistanis? Libyans?
And in what way is that our business?
Clearly I'm not speaking from our point of view. I said these countries are acting ion their own interests and since the facts are different for different countries they in turn make different decisions.
You said:
We are a large NATO country. In fact, for practical purposes, militarily the US is NATO.
Any foreign policy decision made by a NATO member ultimately is backed by military force paid for by US taxpayers. When NATO members "act in their own interest", they are pushing their risks onto US tax payers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxJlcVYBvOY
Congress agreed to give Ukraine another 12B. So courageous. So virtuous.
Did Congress agree to offer Ukrainian men fleeing their draft asylum in the USA?
Until the U.S. Congress gives up the right to draft and send soldiers abroad, it would be downright ridiculous to grant asylum to people fleeing conscription.
The same applies to Ukranian men fleeing conscription there, right? What about every other country that uses conscription? North Korea, Switzerland, Israel?
Reason isn't allowed to talk about the Ukrainian draft. or Zelensky's police state. The neocons throw the best cocktail parties and Reason heartthrob Liz Cheney might show up. A pic with her is something Fiona could show her grandkids someday.
It's Democratic precedent that the US doesn't take in ships full of Jews.
It's such fun! Let's bring in both Ukrainian and Russian men fleeing conscription by the million, give them citizenship, and then see how they vote and how they fight in the streets! It's what the US needs (according to Fiona): more young male foreigners with chips on their shoulders.
Bonus points for no job or English skills.
Fiona's immigration above all parody isn't as good as OBLs.
No, it's not.
And why the f*ck should anybody in the US care?
Hmm, Putin just granted Edward Snowden citizenship just in time for him to get in on being sent to the Ukrainian Front. Wonder if he'll get called up.
>Russian conscript shot a military officer
Therefore we want to let the conscripts escape?
Do you read your own articles before you post them?
The guy who shot the officer at the local recruiting office didn’t isn’t one of the ones who left Russia.
Thousands of Russians have not protested the war, they only got upset when they got drafted
If they don't have the guts that the Iranian women do, then why would any country want some worthless, selfish wusses?
You could also allow thousands of Russian agents to have unfettered access to your country.
So if you are providing aid to Ukraine, this could be a huge mistake.
Ah, Fiona-bot, never change.
The other thing is that there has been a problem in European countries where Russian men harass Ukrainian women and children refugees.
This would make things much worse.
How about a lend-lease program where we sell Ukraine tactical nukes to offset previous meddling with their right to keep and bear arms? Ukraine could already be doing land-office business exporting sniper rifles useful for regime change. Russian draft-dodgers are already showing up with shotguns at enlistment offices. Then again, Yourup meekly handed the Rhineland and Czechoslovakia over to totalitarians who annexed Austria in a Nazi-ballot-count referendum before moving in on Poland. And that turned out OK, right?
It’s a mistake to turn away anyone ever-
Like when that creepy guy next-door keeps trying to get in your pants?
Must be easy to churn out multiple columns when you write, literally, the same piece every time.
So, conscription is a type of enslavement. We can all agree on that, right?
So these Russian men are fleeing enslavement. And the current crop of commenters here are complaining about the people trying not to be slaves?
Good heavens. If there is anything that illustrates the current moral depravity of the so-called "libertarians" here, these comments must be it.
I can only imagine if the current commenters were around in the North in 1850s America, confronted with escaping ruanway slaves:
"Well, what if the slave is a subversive who will undermine America? Can't be too careful, better send him back."
"Why didn't the slave stand up to the slavemaster with the whips and the guns? Why is he such a coward that he is running away? What a pussy. I'm not going to lift a finger to help him."
"Sure, that slave might be beaten and tortured, but think of what would happen up here in the North if all these slaves came up here! Can you imagine what our cities would look like overrun by those Negroes? Better (for us) that they suffer down there than pollute our cities up here."
"Honestly, if we help ruanway slaves, it will just provoke the South to invade. We have to have priorities here. Just send them back and don't think about it."
"I read the newspapers from the South, and they all say that the Negroes are happy and grateful for being civilized instead of having to suffer in such a barbaric place like Africa. And I have no reason to doubt their media, unlike the Fake Northern News Media which is the Enemy Of The People that tells us lies like slave owners rape and abuse their slaves. Why would they abuse such valuable property? It makes no sense. They're a bunch of liars! So send the slaves back where they will be happy once again on their plantation."
Throws shit at the wall goes on rant. Good work Jeff.
Ah, Jeff-bot, never change.
Tell you what. We'll accept all fugitive slaves with math, chemistry, physics or engineering degrees. Americans have their hands full right now with American citizen women fleeing the new National Socialist race-suicide laws conscripting them as breeder dams straight out of a Harriet Beecher Stowe story, but in a greater range of colors. The LP platform that wrote Roe needs to be put back in the platform where it was originally written. Then we'll worry outside our jurisdiction.
and i'm sure that fiona thinks countries should be forced to accept these people. just like she supports open borders here in the us.
Yes, it might be a mistake for Ukraine or Finland to turn away dodgers of the latest KGB press gangs. That doesn't mean importing them to These Sovereign States is a good idea. When Jews and liberals were fleeing Germany, the National Socialist State still tried to land commandos, saboteurs and explosives on American soil. Many fled Saracen satrapies, and a few joined the crowd so as to fly planes into American buildings. Let Yourup handle Yourupeens and Mideasterners.
The area where I'm at has a ton of Slavs that came here in the 1990s, and they've continually been bringing family over since. They were mostly apolitical. That is until recently. They didn't like being informed by a certain political party that they had white privilege, even though they arrived in the past 3 decades with nothing but the clothes on their back. Throw in a sprinkling of attempted LGBTQ indoctrination of their kids... It was crazy to watch a group of apolitical immigrants morph into the most die hard Trump supporters I've ever seen almost overnight.
Some of the more recent immigrants still get their news from Sputnik and Pravda, simply because its the only Russian language news around. Those who have been here longer have been working on breaking the news habits of the newcomers. Here the Ukrainians and Russians are pretty well integrated and the majority are against Putin.
They're Anti-LGBTQ, Anti-socialist, Religious, pro-school choice, hard-working and family oriented.
So for the "team red" supporters and the like... Put aside the anti-immigrant principles for a moment and think like the Democrats. Why not import the minorities that will ensure political victory for your side?
But in the longer term, keeping discontents inside Russia undermines the regime's grip, encourages regime change.