'This Is Not a Bluff': Putin Amps Up Nuke Threats
Plus: Migrants sue DeSantis, Justice Department undercounts jail and prison deaths, Juul sues for FDA records, and more...

"Russia will use all the instruments at its disposal to counter a threat against its territorial integrity—this is not a bluff," Russian President Vladimir Putin said in a chilling national address that also blamed the West for the war in Ukraine and ordered reserve forces in Russia to mobilize for war.
The move comes "as Moscow seeks to buttress its army's flagging manpower and regain the offensive following stinging losses on the battlefield," notes the Wall Street Journal.
Putin repeated a number of now-common lies—about the current war being a mission to liberate Ukraine from neo-Nazis and about Western nations turning Ukrainians against Russia and fomenting war. "The goal of that part of the West is to weaken, divide and ultimately destroy our country," he said.
He also claimed that the West had "resorted to the nuclear blackmail," with "some high-ranking representatives of the leading NATO countries" making statements about "the possibility and admissibility of using weapons of mass destruction—nuclear weapons—against Russia."
"I would like to remind those who make such statements regarding Russia that our country has different types of weapons as well, and some of them are more modern than the weapons NATO countries have," said Putin. "In the event of a threat to the territorial integrity of our country and to defend Russia and our people, we will certainly make use of all weapon systems available to us. This is not a bluff."
"Those who are using nuclear blackmail against us should know that the wind rose can turn around," he continued. "It is our historical tradition and the destiny of our nation to stop those who are keen on global domination and threaten to split up and enslave our motherland. Rest assured that we will do it this time as well."
This war has had a nuclear dimension from the outset. People in Western governments have taken it seriously. I'm sure they'll continue to do so. But any use of nuclear weapons by Putin would be stupid, self-defeating, and lead to extremely grave consequences for Russia.
— Matthew Harries (@harries_matthew) September 21, 2022
Putin's speech—which you can read, translated, in full—was followed by an address from Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, who said Russia was "at war not only with Ukraine and the Ukrainian army, but with the collective West."
Shoigu said 300,000 reservists—excluding students—would be drafted to fight in Ukraine.
The draft follows a Tuesday announcement from "Kremlin proxies" in southern and eastern Ukraine that the areas would hold votes "on referendums on annexation to Russia," notes The New York Times. "The Kremlin signaled that if Russia were to go forward with annexation—even if no other countries recognized it—any further military action by Ukraine in those regions could be seen as an attack on Russia itself."
A few perspectives on Putin's speech:
The speech from Putin today is a careful balancing act of a leader under pressure, who is trying to: 1. please hardliners and Russian milbloggers; 2. not displease the general populace; 3. appease the military; 4. give the impression he is not losing a war. 1/20 ????
— Mick Ryan, AM (@WarintheFuture) September 21, 2022
Google searches for "how to leave Russia?" spiked after Putin's speech. https://t.co/6bwgklYFwl pic.twitter.com/Ns3xZHMTF8
— Noga Tarnopolsky נגה טרנופולסקי نوغا ترنوبولسكي???? (@NTarnopolsky) September 21, 2022
Short summary of the Putin's speech: 10 minutes of blatant lying, 4 minutes explaining the need for mobilisation, 1 minute threatening the world with nukes.
— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated) September 21, 2022
My first reactions to Putin's speech this morning.
1. We are entering a new phase in the war.
2. Putin is desperate, but take him seriously.
3. We are in this for the long haul - think unpredictable.A???? of five initial questions and conclusions.
1/7
— Alexander Stubb (@alexstubb) September 21, 2022
FOLLOWUP
More developments in the saga of Florida flying migrants to Massachusetts:
BREAKING: Migrants flown to Massachusetts file class action lawsuit against DeSantis and other Florida officials in federal court pic.twitter.com/Rp5xgAWOKp
— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) September 20, 2022
Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL), when asked why the state paid to transport migrants from Texas instead of from Florida:
"The problem is we're not seeing mass movements of them into Florida … It's just coming in onesie-twosies." pic.twitter.com/zY1Ma3cst8
— The Recount (@therecount) September 20, 2022
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The truth about deaths during incarceration. The official Department of Justice tally of deaths in state prisons and jails was almost 1,000 deaths short last year, says the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations. Reason's C.J. Ciaramella looks at the new report here.
"The committee and the Government Accountability Office (GAO) found that in the last year alone the department missed 990 prison and jail deaths that were reported on state websites, news articles, and other public databases," notes Ciaramella. "The investigation was also frustrated, the report says, by the Justice Department's lack of full cooperation. It refused to provide all the records the subcommittee requested."
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Juul sues for FDA records. "Juul Labs on Tuesday filed a lawsuit against the Food and Drug Administration over the agency's refusal to disclose documents supporting its order to take Juul's e-cigarettes off the shelves in the U.S. market," reports Axios. "Juul accused the FDA of violating the Freedom of Information Act by withholding a majority of the 'scientific disciplinary reviews' underlying the sales ban, according to the complaint filed in a court in Washington, D.C."
"The public deserves a complete picture of the scientific facts behind one of the agency's most controversial and closely scrutinized decisions in recent years, especially where even FDA recognizes its order is suspect," says Juul's complaint.
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Please go, Brandon.
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Ugh. The time tag is good, but allowing editing of comments is such a bad idea for a comments section full of dishonest and sneaky commenters.
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As always, you don't bother reading the source documents.
I thought you had us all muted?
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Yes, sarc and Lying Jeffy hardest hit.
Projection.
Funny Mike is already thinking how he can abuse it.
Really isn’t projection. I can assure you I will not play any immature tricks with changing the essence of what I said.
“changing the essence”
There it is.
Like when you tried cloning names?
It doesn't matter, because nothing here matters. If you're not having fun, then leave. If you think the conversation here has any impact either way, that's a sad confusion.
Disagree. The commentariat used to be a place with intelligent and informative discussion, which I would have gladly referred the libertarianism curious to.
Then the Trump Mean Girls came along and fucked it all up.
No, then YOU came leftists shit on everything. You bring the level of discussion down with your lies, idiocy and endless shitposting. You are the problem.
GTFO.
Cite please. Names? A list perhaps?
Then Mike showed up.
So stop lying
That would be folks like you and your pal SQRLSY there. You’re the liar.
Russia will use all the instruments at its disposal to counter a threat against its territorial integrity—this is not a bluff...
Suddenly we don't bluff about nukes?
Well, we survived two nuclear wars while Trump was in office, so I fully expect Biden to protect us from this one.
North Korea in line 1
It was a bit of an admission on his part.
I’d like to ask Putin for a cite on who all these Western leaders who are making nuclear threats are.
Uh, go right ahead.
Have his email address or phone number?
He can be reached by emailing the democratic party headquarters - all their emails are fwd'd to the Kremlin.
Good to see that the new gameplan of the morons here and other forums is asking for cites. I bet that evil bastard will oblige as soon as Mike goes to visit him.
Asking for a cite from Putin....a new low.
He holds Putin to higher standards than he holds himself to.
I'd like to ask JesseBahnFuhrer if he has ever even CONSIDERED growing a brain, and perhaps even, growing a brain containing a "decency and honesty module".
Yeah, asking for a cite to back up an assertions is an awful thing to do to someone.
Never mind that whenever someone here thinks they are being witty by asking me for a cite, I provide one (if I see the request). And if I can’t find one, I admit it.
whenever someone here thinks they are being witty by asking me for a cite, I provide one
Cite?
Lol. You stole my comment.
In all seriousness, I don't know that I have ever seen him cite anything other than Wikipedia or Vox. Which would fail him out of the community college he swears he attended.
I’d out he went to school. I assume that all the leftists here survive on welfare, plus tips from being in the receiving end of a glory hole. Buttplug is the exception, as he is an entrepreneur.
He probably makes pretty good money distributing child pornography to his fellow NAMBLA members.
Says the dude with the micropenis who has never experienced a glory hole. Get thee to a CNN Town hall meeting!
I’m not against glory holes. I’m just saying that our leftists are the kind operating them for tips. The bad kind of glory holes, in seedy places.
And for the record, my crank is big as life and twice as awesome.
Cite?
https://reason.com/2022/09/19/want-an-academic-job-start-preparing-your-dei-statement/?comments=true#comment-9708482
He cited rolling stone once and then a week letter claimed he had never read a rolling stone article.
You’ve become a caricature of yourself, Dee.
(Edited to add Dee)
Actually, Biden did on CBS News. He warned Russia not to use nuclear weapons, but no statement about the use of nuclear weapons had been made by Russia. It could be seen as a pre-emptive bid, or it could be seen as a threat of nuclear attack by the USA.
But with Biden one is never too sure what he is talking about, I find.
BREAKING: Migrants flown to Massachusetts file class action lawsuit against DeSantis and other Florida officials in federal court
BREAKING: Everyone seemingly determined to get Ron DeSantis elected president
I'm very certain that the migrants decided on their own to sue, and were not in any way cajoled into it by an activist left-wing legal group or anything like that.
This is exactly right. The "migrants" aren't suing anyone.
Since they all signed a waiver in Spanish saying they wanted to go to Massachusetts, they were probably disappointed to find themselves in Martha's Vineyard instead. No wait, MV is in Massachusetts. But not in Boston, so the additional hundred miles to get where they wanted to be is inhuman.
Now, about the migrants flown by the Feds to Yakima...
Because Yakima is so much better than MV…….
I see. Activists putting migrants on planes, lying to them and sending them somewhere they don’t want to go – good.
Activists encouraging migrants to sue the first lot of activists – bad.
LOL you got it. It is so transparent.
Familiarity with the US class action system is endemic in Latin America. Someone from Venezuela I am sure has great faith in the legal system such that the first they want to do is sue.
Your IQ might be low enough to work for Reason. Jeff. You should apply.
He is a dutiful propagandist, and a booster of pedophile friendly causes. Maybe he could play off ENB’s obsessive sex trafficking screeds. Jeffy could write all the predator friendly articles.
It's a good thing that this is the only flight of migrants sent somewhere that the weren't sure of. Otherwise, there should have been lawsuits for every busload and planeload of migrants sent anywhere without total and absolute transparency. Never change, Jeffy, the migrants need people like you to keep fighting for them.
"They might have been exploited in the past, so that justifies all further attempts to exploit them!"
"I'll justify ANYTHING Brandon does, as long as a GOP'er also does it" - chemmy
I'm not justifying anything that Biden is doing. It's you all that are trying desperately to justify what Team Red hero DeSantis is doing. You are the ones putting people over principles, not me.
I don't give a shit what team red hero does, but I didn't hear any complaints from you and the other suddenly outraged morons for the last year and a half while this was going on. If you weren't so transparently defending the D's constantly, your opinion might carry some value.
Don't call jeff the obvious democrat he is. And listen when he calls you a maga republican team red member. It isnt hypocritical when he does it.
I don’t give a shit what team red hero does
lol ok dude
but I didn’t hear any complaints from you and the other suddenly outraged morons for the last year and a half while this was going on.
While "what" was going on? Was Biden transporting migrants to, say, Mar-a-Lago, making false promises to them about work permits, dumping them off without any warning or preparation, and then crowing on TV afterwards saying "see? Trump didn't welcome them in with open arms, that proves he's a bigot!!!" Did Biden do that?
While “what” was going on? Was Biden transporting migrants to, say, Mar-a-Lago, making false promises to them about work permits, dumping them off without any warning or preparation, and then crowing on TV afterwards saying “see? Trump didn’t welcome them in with open arms, that proves he’s a bigot!!!” Did Biden do that?
LOL, the fact that you're so pissed off about this shows that it was the right thing to do.
Right, here comes RRWP, another guy who is totally on board with using state power to destroy his perceived enemies, and will invent whatever argument is necessary to pursue that goal no matter how intellectually dishonest or inconsistent it is.
Right, here comes RRWP, another guy who is totally on board with using state power to destroy his perceived enemies, and will invent whatever argument is necessary to pursue that goal no matter how intellectually dishonest or inconsistent it is.
Right, here comes chemtard radical deathfat, another guy who is totally on board with complaining about anything the right does, and will invent whatever argument is necessary to pursue that goal now matter how intellectually dishonest or inconsistent it is.
Yes jeff. The leftist NGO groups in south America are promising migrants work permits and a minimum of 2 years in the US for crossing illegally. Teaching them how to make false asylum claims. This is well documented you ignorant shit.
The leftist NGO groups in south America are promising migrants work permits and a minimum of 2 years in the US for crossing illegally.
Cite?
Here’s Lying Jeffy trying to equate Mar-A-Lago, a single property owned by Trump, with Martha’s Vineyard, a 96 sq mile island that had previously declared itself a sanctuary community.
Is such a comparison logical? Of course not, its ridiculous. But Lying Jeffy did it anyway. Because he’s dishonest.
Pedo Jeffy, you are just fine with Biden using state power to destroy your conservative and libertarian enemies. So it’s not like you have principles. You just don’t like it when your intended victims hit back.
It would also help if he had an IQ higher than the speed limit in a school zone.
It’s not really principles or people, it seems to be team over both.
Yes, that IS the democrat way. You finally admit it.
Fuck you, who's exploiting them now?
that is exactly right. The last thing an immigrant (legal or illegal) wants to do is earn attention from anyone in the local, state or federal govt. These lawyers are using minorities for political talking points, aka a Democrat standard strategy
"The reason I'm sympathetic to this one plane load of illegal immigrants and not any other has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that they were within walking distance of my paymaster's summer home!"
It couldn't possibly be because all of the stories about "plane loads of illegal immigrants" appearing in right-wing partisan media couldn't be stretching the truth and deliberately ignoring key facts in order to push a narrative. No, what DeSantis did is EXACTLY what Biden did. Exactly. No difference.
And to point out that the FACTS are different is to "defend Biden", because the "facts" are determined by what right-wing media says.
No, they’re different. Biden did it in the middle of the night so no one would know.
Cmon rmac, we all know social service groups hang out in airport parking lots at 3am.
Jeffy, why aren’t you outraged at the people of MV? I thought you believed these people should be able to go wherever they want? They seemed to like it there, but this self declared sanctuary island had them taken away at the nearest opportunity.
The only reason you have a problem with this is at the democrats told you to have a problem with it. Case closed.
Good thing the lawsuits also don't extend to false promises of sanctuary cities.
So they should be suing Joe Biden? Sometimes Shreek you manage to make a sentient point.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-administration-s-own-migrant-flights-receive-renewed-scrutiny/ar-AA124MeJ
Have you been laying off the child porn lately or something?
Somewhere they didn't want to go? Didn't they want to go to the U.S.? And isn't Martha's Vineyard part of the U.S.? I fail to see the problem.
Yes you do fail to see the problem. And “fail” was an apropos word choice on your part.
Lol. More failure from white Mike.
Cite?
Sorry, no cite possible. It is my personal opinion.
Hey, they did not escape one socialist hell-hole to be dropped in another.
Shrike, the forms and packets given them are online. You are free to educate yourself.
Activists putting migrants on planes, lying to them and sending them somewhere they don’t want to go – good
Why wouldn't they want to go to Martha's Vineyard? It is glorious this time of year.
Just stay out of the water, off any boats named "Orca", and out of any cars owned by the Kennedy family, and they'll be just fine.
I don't believe I made any judgment or statement about whether either action was good or bad. In fact I don't believe I commented on governors bussing / flying people around for political stunts at all.
I do find it interesting the way that the narrative is being framed, and how it's being un-skeptically repeated. That's not a reflection on the actions on either side of the political spectrum as much as it's a comment on the state of our media.
If nothing else, 2 hours on Martha's Vineyard teaches people how to be autonomous (and also maybe ambitious about the rewards of the leftist collective).
The reaction to the planeload (~50) of illegal aliens in Martha's Vineyard was truly something to behold. The first move by these 'oh so compassionate' progressives was to deport the illegals to an army base. Quite compassionate.
If there is anything that progressives hate, it is being publicly humiliated and laughed at. The entire country is now laughing at them and their virtue signaling hypocrisy.
The scorn (much deserved) comes later.
MV progressives will have to yard sign even harder.
It's as if Liberals want migrants to have things as long as someone else pays for it.
I find it funny how NYC is acting. TX, NM, AZ have received hundreds of thousands over the last few years. NYC and Chicago get a drop in the bucket and cry foul.
Of course.
When the actions of the migrants serve right-wing causes, then we must emphasize that they are acting of their own free will.
When the actions of the migrants serve left-wing causes, then we must instead assume that they are being manipulated and exploited, and deny their free will.
Yeah, the first thing some guy who was just kicked out of a Venezuelan prison and ends up in Massachusetts thinks is "I need to do a class action against the governor of Florida".
You just a profoundly silly and stupid person. If I didn't know human nature better and didn't fully understand just how stupid people can be, I would think you were a satire account.
Yeah, the first thing some guy who was just released by a judge awaiting processing of his asylum application thinks is "I need to find a way to get to Martha's Vineyard".
So someone offers them a flight to a rich area that is always short on labor, they wouldn't take it? They signed waivers saying they did.
And why didn't the Vineyard accept them? It is a sanctuary city. Why was this ever a problem? If rich white liberals were not such racists, they would still be on the island and getting help.
So someone offers them a flight to a rich area that is always short on labor, they wouldn’t take it? They signed waivers saying they did.
And we should of course assume that there was absolutely zero exploitation or manipulation involved with representatives from the state of Florida bribing homeless powerless penniless migrants with food and supplies and empty promises of a place to live and work permits. Nope nope nope. Totally free will. How dare you question their agency.
But later on, some might feel like they were duped and exploited and seek legal remedies to that, THEN, it's totally an act of exploitation and no free will involved. How dare those leftist lawyers manipulate and exploit those poor migrants.
It's free will when it benefits Team Red, and it's exploitation when it benefits Team Blue.
But later on, some might feel like they were duped and exploited and seek legal remedies to that, THEN, it’s totally an act of exploitation and no free will involved. How dare those leftist lawyers manipulate and exploit those poor migrants.
If the people on Marth's Vineyard had helped them like they claimed they would, why would this be a problem? Again, you seem to want to blame DeSantis for the residents of Martha's Vineyard being racist.
I am blaming your tribe for treating people like cargo.
And I'm blaming yours for treating them like mules to make your own life easier.
Duly noted that you are totally on board with treating people like cargo as long as it advances your goals.
Duly noted that you are totally on board with treating people like chattel as long as it advances yours.
The only reason they were treated like cargo is because the people of Martha's Vineyard wouldn't help them.
"And why didn’t the Vineyard accept them? It is a sanctuary city. Why was this ever a problem?"
This is the questions the leftists refuse to answer.
Jeff won't answer that question. Jeff is like all white liberals a true blue racist. He would never live near a migrant community. He just expects low class white people and other brown people to do so. He is enlightened like that. It is everyone else that is racist.
What was truly incredible was the Bexar County sheriff arguing that taking in migrants now was more important than ever because he had to wait a few extra minutes at a restaurant to be seated and get his food.
Well, fuck, I thought the whole reason we were letting so many in the last 30-odd years was for this specific purpose. The gall of these people to not continue acting as peon labor for the cathedral classes!
Jeff is the most virtuous person here. As long as he bears (yes a pun) none of the costs and others do, he supports it.
Because Team Blue is full of a bunch of virtue-signaling hypocrites.
Your team should pat itself on the back for exploiting migrants in the manner that it did in order to demonstrate that. Way to go.
Thanks, I think we'll do just that, fat boy.
It’s funny because Jeffy admitted he was fat.
Your team should pat itself on the back for exploiting migrants
1) They are not 'migrant's you fucking lefty sycophant. They are either refugees or illegal aliens. Migrants are the legal workers that move around to pick crops. My father's family were migrants right up until the welfare state and cheaper illegal alien labor made the work no longer desirable in the mid-60s.
2) Why the fuck does it matter where the refugees sit their asses while they wait in the 2 year backlog to have their hearings? People in Bexar County have enough people sitting around collecting benefits and working for cash.
3) Martha's Vineyard is magnificent this time of year.
"1) They are not ‘migrant’s you fucking lefty sycophant. They are either refugees or illegal aliens."
The Venezuelans that they sent to MV (and later Joint Base Cape Cod) probably have a better claim for asylum / refugee status than most people picked up by the border patrol.
Really? I saw it answered at least a couple of times, right here in the commentariat.
Asylum seekers are not allowed to accept work for pay for a year after their application for asylum is started. The time period used to be shorter, but the Trump administration pushed though a longer no-work blackout.
Is Mike admitting that these illegal immigrants are an actual cost on the states???
Asylum seekers are not allowed to accept work for pay for a year after their application for asylum is started.
Are you really this stupid? Go down to Home Depot and you can hire a dozen of them right now.
Not in Martha's vinyard chuck. Game. Set. Match.
Cite?
Here you go:
https://ilapmaine.org/ilap-news/2020/4/22/asylum-work-permit
All they have to do is claim to be victims of a crime Mikey.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-speed-permits-undocumented-immigrants-145957713.html
Democrats are pushing these actions as a crime.
Need new talking points.
There is no Home Depot in Martha's Vineyard.
The closest one is in Cape Cod.
LOL! No Home Depot on the island? Then why did they go? There are 13 stores in Bexar County where they started. The one on Cambray is the nearest to our office there.
Jeff, say just a few critical things about the good people of Martha's Vineyard, and their hypocrisy, and we might believe you are not a Democrat fan boy.
Why should he? DeSantis stunt failed to reveal any.
They took care of the migrants, feeding them pizza and giving them a place to sleep for the night. They didn’t do anything that can be called out as hypocritical.
That doesn’t mean they aren’t hypocrites, especially since they were aware their reaction was being scrutinized.
Again. Mike says our new border policy should be pizza and 1 night on a cot before shipping each one out. That is virtuous.
Cite?
Good to know your concept of "sanctuary" has a 24 hour limit.
Where did the word “sanctuary” enter into the discussion?
Jeff was asked to say something critical about the people of Martha’s Vineyard. No mention of sanctuary or my concept of it.
If you really cared about the exploitation. You would focus on the smugglers bringing them here.
Good point. The coyotes who bring migrants here are only able to be successful and remain in business due to the fucked up nature of US immigration law. The War On Migration, in criminalizing otherwise consensual activity, creates the market for coyotes and other violent criminals, in much the same way that the War On Drugs creates the market for drug lords and violent drug cartels. Get rid of the absurd immigration rules that makes it exceptionally difficult for peaceful people to obtain honest work by crossing a border, and you will see fewer coyotes trying to smuggle people here and there, because there will be no need to smuggle anyone.
So, open borders and all problems go away?
*More* open borders than they are currently, would solve a great many problems, and would probably create a few others as well.
Just like ending the Drug War would solve a lot of the problems associated with the violence of the drug trade, the erosion of many of our rights in the name of the Drug War, the excessive militarization of the police in order to fight gangs funded by illicit profits fueled by the drug war itself, etc. It would also create other problems, for example, there would also likely be many more people who have substance abuse problems, and we ought to think about how to deal with that in a libertarian context. But, it is a problem of people using their own liberty irresponsibly; as opposed to the status quo, in which people don't even have that liberty in the first place, whether or not it is used irresponsibly.
It is much the same with migration. If the rules against migration are lessened to a much greater degree, then there will be more migrants. More migrants means more economic activity, but it also means more infrastructure and more demands for public services. We can think about how to deal with those problems, but I would rather have those problems, instead of the problem of these migrants not even having the liberty in the first place of
being here at all.
Fair enough.
I’m not completely joking when I say if I were in charge of immigration law the first thing I would do is open the borders for all attractive women.
And I would have stringent background checks and hoops to jump through for males from, say, ages 15 and 25. Isn’t that the demographic that commits most of the violent acts in this world?
More seriously, I would probably start with making it easy for anyone who has lined up a job in advance to come into the country to do that job.
If our concern is the burden they are putting on society, then it seems a good place to start is making it easy for anyone who is holding down a job.
Just like ending the Drug War... It would also create other problems, for example, there would also likely be many more people who have substance abuse problems, and we ought to think about how to deal with that in a libertarian context.
1) Cite? Repealing prohibition didn't cause more alcoholics.
2) The only libertarian context is: "It is a shame that you lack the self control to use drugs recreationally, but it is not the government's job to protect you from yourself or the consequences of your actions. There are many charities and religious organizations willing to assist you, although you may have to endure some judgement and/or proselytizing and they are free to abandon you if you fail to improve."
I appreciate your use of shitty analogies. It always ends up exposing you as a supporter for redistribution of resources by the state over private charity; an anti-libertarian stance.
the first thing I would do is open the borders for all attractive women.
And I would have stringent background checks and hoops to jump through for males from, say, ages 15 and 25.
You lecherous little troll. You really should have used your 5 minutes to delete that particular bit of stupidity.
And we should of course assume that there was absolutely zero exploitation or manipulation involved with representatives from the state of Florida bribing homeless powerless penniless migrants with food and supplies and empty promises of a place to live and work permits. Nope nope nope. Totally free will. How dare you question their agency.
Manipulated?
What are you talking about? The services described to the migrants are the services the state of Massachusetts claims to offer. They used their text.
All the sanctuary cities offer similar benefits.
Thing is, they never expected to be taken up on their offer--well, not for run of the mill migrants. They expected to use their 'sanctuary city' status as a bludgeon against the right.
And not, migrants who were enticed by the people who voted for sanctuary cities have been rounded up and incarcerated on a military base by the people they were told would welcome them. Of course they're upset.
And the mob of leftists is more than happy to tell them who to blame.
Why not? There's worse places *cough* Chicago *cough*.
Chicago ships them out as well.
I know.
https://patch.com/illinois/burrridge/venezuelan-refugees-moved-out-burr-ridge-relocated-cook-county
You admitted in the "National Conservatism" thread a little while ago that you are totally on board with using state power against your perceived enemies, that your highest goal is "defeating the left". So we should all keep that in mind when reading your comments. Your arguments will always be framed in a way that makes Team Blue look bad and Team Red look better, no matter how intellectually dishonest or inconsistent they may be.
Martha's Vinyard is a sanctuary locality. Hate has no home there. Why would you not send these people there? Florida can't take any more. Why not send them to a wealthy place that wants them?
Is it too much to ask one of the richest places in the world to accept and help 50 people instead of shipping them to a concentration camp and trying to sue the people who sent them there for help?
I am sorry but the days of being able to keep brown people from living near you are over. They ended like 50 years ago. When are Democrats going to accept that?
Why would you not send these people there?
Translation: Why would you not manipulate "those people" into a stunt that embarrasses Team Blue?
Florida can’t take any more.
They weren't even in Florida.
Translation: Why would you not manipulate “those people” into a stunt that embarrasses Team Blue?
Why does it look bad for team blue? Again, is it too much to ask that one of the richest places in the world take in 50 people? If Martha's Vineyard had welcomed these people into their homes, it wouldn't look bad for team blue. It would have looked bad for team red. Why didn't that happen? And why is it DeSantis' fault it didn't?
It is not my fault white liberals are in fact some of the most racist and xenophobic people on earth. No one made those people turn the migrants away. They did that. If that makes them look bad and like the racists they are, well too bad.
It is not my fault white liberals are in fact some of the most racist and xenophobic people on earth.
I agree that there is a lot of racism and xenophobia and hypocrisy among Team Blue. And your team decided to manipulate and exploit the desperation of penniless migrants in order to try to expose that. You should be very proud of yourself. You put your hatred of Team Blue above the human dignity of innocent migrants.
Again, it is not my fault the people in Martha's vineyard are so racist, they can't help 50 people. And it looks to me like DeSantis did the country a favor pointing this out. Funny how you are more angry about that than you are about the racism.
I agree that there is a lot of racism and xenophobia and hypocrisy among Team Blue.
And because it is team blue, you don't have a problem with it. You just have a problem with it ever being pointed out.
And your team decided to manipulate and exploit the desperation of penniless migrants in order to try to expose that. You should be very proud of yourself. You put your hatred of Team Blue above the human dignity of innocent migrants.
And your team's been manipulating and exploiting their desperation because you're too fucking lazy to do anything for yourself. Don't act like your team is a bunch of fucking saints here.
"My team" is the team of humanists who recognizes and respects the human dignity of all people. ALL people, not just citizens. Even though I despise what you stand for, I would never advocate for treating you the way DeSantis treated those migrants, or for how the MV residents treated those migrants either. That is the difference between you and me.
“My team” is the team of humanists who recognizes and respects the human dignity of all people.
Then your team are utopian idiots. No wonder you argued that not letting child molesters set up shop in this country was decreasing their liberty.
Even though I despise what you stand for,
The feeling is mutual, you pedophile apologist.
Then your team are utopian idiots.
I have principles.
You have nothing but animosity and will-to-power.
We'll let history judge which is the better team.
"“My team” is the team of humanists who recognizes and respects the human dignity of all people."
Your team are social-signaling gentry class buffoons and the power mad cult leaders that parasitize them.
The raw hatred team blue has for the proletariat and working class is continually manifesting.
I have principles.
You have nothing but animosity and will-to-power.
We’ll let history judge which is the better team.
"History" doesn't judge anything; that's a marxist pretense founded in historic determinism.
Exploited in the sense they were sent to an island that is one giant super luxury resort. I would love to be exploited Don such a manner. Also, feel free to to pimp me out to a bunch of hot (biologically female) Victoria’s Secret models.
It’ll be degrading, but I’m willing to live with that.
“History” doesn’t judge anything; that’s a marxist pretense founded in historic determinism.
Exactly. Jeffy and his White Mike are perfect puppets. They continuously spout Marxist platitudes, either completely ignorant or in denial about their origin and what they are intended to obfuscate.
Their response will be that their critics are making this about them, but it isn't. They are not original nor creative enough to give two shits about. The arguments are against the Marxist ideology that underlies every position they take.
Look. Hubdreds of thousands being shipped to border towns is good and virtuous. Who cares if it decimates their economy and social services. But don't you dare send 50 to a rich blue enclave.
No Jesse, I get it. Biden treats migrants terribly, therefore it totally justifies DeSantis treating migrants terribly. Who gives a shit about them anyway. Sucks to be them.
No Jesse, I get it. Biden treats migrants terribly, therefore it totally justifies DeSantis treating migrants terribly. Who gives a shit about them anyway. Sucks to be them.
Get out of your suburban lefty whiteopia and go live in a border town for a while, and you might get it.
Unlike you jeff I have had direct consequences from the actions you fucking advocate. I have given you numerous examples. Having other people pay for your beliefs is not an ethical stance moron. Refusinf to bare any of the costs makes you an entirely unethical person. You don't give a shit about the migrants. You turn a complete blind eye to the groups south of the border telling migrants how to abuse the US systems. Because you are an unethical piece of shit.
Absolutely Jesse. You are suffering at the hands of these migrants (or so you believe), therefore it is justified to treat the migrants like cargo in order to force others to endure the same suffering that you are. That pretty much sums it up, right?
Pedo Jeffy, it is your democrat masters treating illegals like cargo. And quit calling illegals ‘migrants’. They’re illegals.
Or just stop lying altogether, man up, apologize to everyone here for subjecting us to your malignant stupidity, and go away forever.
I don't see how DeSantis looks bad either way. He's giving both the migrants and the residents of MV what they claim they want. That the residents of MV were lying and the migrants could be duped by a left-wing activist group with the promise of a settlement isn't on him.
Jeff would rather the migrants inhabit homeless shelters and underpasses than be minorly inconvenienced.
I would rather the migrants have work permits after passing a quick background check and health screening at the border. Didn't you say you favored work permits earlier?
A guest worker program makes sense. Something I’ve advocated for decades. But only after stopping the flow of illegals, and getting the illegals we already have out of here. Anything less is just perpetuating the current problem.
But Jeffy, ‘them red’ didn’t decide to turn MV into a sanctuary city. The people of MV did. So why did they freak out and have those 50 people removed? MV is the one claiming to welcome them.
Can you answer that question without twisting it around on DeSantis?
And like liberals everywhere, they use their self-assessed moral superiority to give away things that belong to others, from the economies and lives of border towns and states, to the very idea of the nation and citizenship. And like Jeff, they claim this in the name of "caring".
Let's see these fuckers care by actually taking some immigrants into their homes and providing them support from their own pockets.
you are totally on board with using state power against your perceived enemies, that your highest goal is “defeating the left”
First, anything that can be done to stymie the wave of socialism breaking upon the U.S. should be done. Second, when the system is rigged, you need access to the system to defeat the system. Either that or a revolution. It is worth a shot to try to dismantle the state apparatus before razing it to the ground.
Socialists will not be deterred. They must be crushed.
Agreed. But all Jeff and Mike heard is "I hate Democrats and love Trump".
you are totally on board with using state power against your perceived enemies
I'm done thinking you don't know what words mean. You're so retarded, you don't know what the word "initiation" means. Even my 9 yr. old understands the difference between calling the cops when someone is trying to break into your house and when the neighbor across the street is watering their lawn, but you're (willfully or not) too stupid to know or understand the difference.
They are not pawns this time!!
Of course - they were completely incapable of understanding what was going on when DeathSatan rounded them up for his COVID death camps but completely capable of understanding the American civil court system.
Mostly because the only thing you need to know there is 'I'll get some money if I sign this paper'.
Or - and hear me out here - both tribes are more intent on using migrants as pawns in their schemes instead of recognizing their fundamental humanity and dignity.
This is the overall truth of the matter. Neither side actually cares one iota about these people, they have been and always will be used as political pawns unless the public actually starts demanding different of their politicians.
And since the public really doesn’t care about these people either, that ain’t ever going to happen.
What’s sad is the immigration issue in this country could pretty easily be resolved, with both sides being able to be marginally happy with the results. But we live in a world where superficial tribal extremism drives the bus, and, as such, nothing is going to change.
And side note: An edit button!!!
What’s sad is the immigration issue in this country could pretty easily be resolved, with both sides being able to be marginally happy with the results.
You honestly believe that? Because the last 120 years or so of the nation's history would seem to indicate otherwise. Remember, Hart-Cellar was only able to pass because Ted Kennedy made the argument that it wouldn't flood the cities with immigrants or radically alter the nation's demographics. 40 years later, Democrats were crowing that immigration was going to turn Texas blue.
Yes, I don't actually believe that, I know that.
And your response is mostly non-sequitur to my comment. If anything you proved my point. Politicians and political parties are too busy using immigration as a weapon to try and solve it. And solving the matter would require cooperation, negotiation, and inevitable compromise that neither side is willing to participate in.
In the end, make immigration into the US easier and less costly while increasing border and illegal immigration enforcement. There you have it. But the right won't allow for increased immigration and the left won't allow for border and immigration enforcement.
It goes even deeper than that. The major political parties aren’t interested in ending divisive issues. They need them too much to drive voters to the polls.
Definitely. The division is the goal.
Yup. Their entire electoral strategy is based on this now. Gone are the days when each team would prevent an affirmative vision of the future and try to urge people to join in that vision. Now, it's completely "vote for us to stop the other team from winning". That is a big reason why I will never vote for a Team Red or Team Blue politician for anything beyond local offices (and even there it is getting worse). They don't really have a vision. All they have is fear and demagoguery, and a lust for power.
Cite?
Sorry, can’t provide a cite, as it is just my personal opinion.
Retard.
The Republican side shipped them off to a place that was welcoming and supportive of immigration.
The Democrat side shipped them off to cages on a military base. And releases them across the country. Including over 1,000 in a single day in San Antonio - with no support.
So, no, both sides are not equal here.
A democrat like Pedo Jeffy only declares ‘both sides’ when they get caught with their hand in the cookie jar. Which is a particularly apt analogy where our fatfuck friend is concerned.
Jeff again takes 20 responses in which he is losing the argument then attempts to devolve into a false centrist with tepid both sides claims.
One of his main tactics.
I believe in a completely radical rethinking of the entirety of the immigration system. Your small tribal mind cannot comprehend such a thing.
No, it's just everyone makes this claim.
"We need comprehensive ________ reform." It's the fill in the blank game. Everyone demands omnibus this and comprehensive that and then claims to be a superior thinker because of it. When rather it's generally a lazy position that mostly indicates the person has no idea about the current regulatory and legal structure already in place and instead just demands starting over in order to avoid having to learn about the matter.
Well, I do admit I don’t understand it all. Have you seen any of the immigration flowcharts people have put on the Internet:
https://immigrationroad.com/green-card/immigration-flowchart-roadmap-to-green-card.php
I have.
You believe in open borders, period. This goes against the tenets of our constitution. So you are either a traitor, or if you are the Canadian Cytotoxic, you are a hostile foreign entity that should be removed or executed.
Oh, so you admit the Biden and Obama administrations have been doing worse shit?
No, equal. Of you criticize the democrats you can only say they are just as bad as the gop in a small slice of their platform. This is Jeff's tactic. Never worse. And isolate to a small area of discussion.
Jeffy is consistent in his shitweaselry.
Of course. Only DeSantis uses them as political pawns, and no one on the Left would ever even consider doing such a thing.
How many class action lawsuits start with people affected? This lawsuit is not really any different than the Camp Lejeune or any other class action lawsuits. Question is how long can the lawsuit run?
Congress appropriated money via the Camp Lejeune Justice Act of 2021. The lawsuits are to get a piece of that pie.
That is different than a lot of class action lawsuits.
The question is will the judge allow the packets provided to the illegal immigrants and the signed waiver forms to be entered into evidence. It's laughably trivial to prove no deception if they are.
I'm this case random statements from activists about an unknown recruiter is stronger evidence that signed forms and packages.
Also ignore all the migrants thanking DeSantis. These 3 migrants are the truth.
Images of the brochures are all over the Internet. No need for a judge’s release.
Yet you continue to push the false claims laid out in the lawsuit.
And yet, that is not a guarantee that a judge won't ban it.
Yes, good point.
You should tell Lying Jeffy that.
Cite?
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/09/marthas-vineyard-migrant-pamphlet-ron-desantis-fake-brochure.html
Slate? FFS……
Fake brochure? Lol.
"Psst. Hey you. Get on this bus and we'll take you some place where you can earn a million dollars."
Lawyers - "You were on the bus? Sign up with me and earn a million dollars."
They are discovering the magic of American litigiousness!
Hide in this shipping container for 2 days in blazing Texas heat without AC, food or water to sneak across the border: Awesome deal. I'll do it.
Take a few hour flight with AC (snacks and drinks provided?): Call my lawyer.
You forgot the promised rape.
The lawsuit alleges that DeSantis and his accomplices engaged in "a premeditated, fraudulent, and illegal scheme centered on exploiting [the migrants] for the sole purpose of advancing their own personal, financial and political interests."
Headline Reason won't write:
"Immigrants Accidentally Make H1B Visa Program Illegal"
"The problem is we're not seeing mass movements of them into Florida … It's just coming in onesie-twosies."
Don't say samesies.
It starts innocently enough with onesies-twosies. Soon it is threesies-foursies and then the damn truly breaks.
If we believe the official Russian doctrine we have been told to read, Russia will not use nukes to defend its peripheral territories.
As for being at war with the West, I remember when Panama declared war on the USA. The USA took that seriously and promptly deposed Noriega. (But see "The Mouse that Roared.")
Former EcoHealth VP goes into further details regarding WIV and covid 2 development.
https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/highly-suspect-darpa-tried-hire-executive-wuhan-lab-funder-covid
This might actually get to a point they can’t cover it up.
A few weeks after the Red Sermon by Biden, democratic hero finds abd kills 18 year old MAGA extremist. What was he doing? Fucking dancing.
https://www.valleynewslive.com/2022/09/19/man-admits-killing-teen-after-political-dispute-foster-co/
Yeah, but he was, like, *Joker dancing*. And you know what that means . . .
Only right-wing rhetoric causes violence. This was obviously a coincidence.
"Brandt has been charged with criminal vehicular homicide and DUI. Court records show a judge set bail at $50,000."
So he can bail out for $5K?
Hey, it's not like he put his icky conservative feet up on Nancy Pelosi's desk.
One of the fastest growing classes of people in the US is detransitioners. Linked is the story of a girl convinced to change genders and get a mastectomy at age 15 (white Mike continues to claim in threads children uber 18 do not have surgery). She talks about what she was told and how she regretted it by age 17. Her impetus was molestation and LGBT praise on IG.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/detransitioner-chloe-cole-gives-powerful-testimony-against-gender-affirming-care-at-white-house
WPATH, the largest pro "gender affirming care" group in the world, has now removed minimum age for transition including surgery. They also discussed how they use CPS to go after parents who do not help them transition kids.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/author-of-new-wpath-guidelines-recommends-threatening-parents-with-call-to-child-protective-services
Jeff so ignores activists using friendly CPS officials to pressure parents and he says mutilation is fine with parental consent.
What's that sound I hear? Oh yeah, it's the woodchippers firing up.
What's so pathetic about chemtard's stanning for this kind of stuff is that he gets in such a lather when the right pushes back against it. It's not that he has principles, it's that he doesn't think there's actually anything wrong with some adolescent getting gaslit into believing that discomforts during normal biological changes actually indicate that they're "born in the wrong body," and need radical surgical procedures and hormone blockers to prevent that from happening .
This kind of mass psycho-social manipulation, being done with the blessing of our elites and mass media, mind you, is absolutely diabolical. These people need to be going through Nuremberg-style trials and either hung from lampposts or getting tossed in to Supermax, not coordinating such policies on a global scale, much less in the United States.
Vanderbilt medical college admits in papers how much profit they could make by transitioning kids.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/gov-bill-lee-calls-for-investigation-of-vanderbilts-pediatric-transgender-clinic-following-matt-walsh-bombshell
And when I thought this shit couldn't get any creepier. Jesus.
Well, yeah, they’ll make a shit-ton of money–just look at all the stuff that Jaron Bloshinsky, aka Jazz Jennings (the kid whose book Scott Shackford was pimping) has had to endure, from the years of hormone blocking drugs, to the surgery that left him with a open wound of a “vagina” that he constantly has to dilate to keep from closing up on him, to the multiple surgeries in the aftermath, to the cocktail of about 20 drugs he has to take on a daily basis, to the massive weight gain that’s going to cause additional health problems for years down the line that will have to be treated (and paid for).
You better fucking believe a large motivator behind the medical industry jumping in to this with both feet, besides the fact that the field’s become increasingly populated by neo-marxist Millennial and Zoomer assholes, is the absolute gobs of money that can be made from treating life-long physical afflictions brought about by enabling a specific mental illness instead of actually treating that illness.
“Gender-affirming care” is like giving an alcoholic unlimited access to booze.
DoJ is issuing exoansive subpoenas to groups that are against transgender ideology.
information and communications it has or engaged in over the law and any predecessor bills;
materials that were considered by the Forum connected to the legislation or any draft or model bills;
documents concerning the Forum’s “legislative or policy goals, initiatives, and/or strategies relating to medical care or treatment of transgender minors, or minors with gender dysphoria”;
communications with—and testimony, letters, reports, etc., sent to—state legislators or their staff; and any other government agencies and officials in Alabama over the legislation;
communications with any other nongovernmental organizations over the legislation;
internal minutes and records of meetings, polling and public opinion data, video presentations and speeches, newsletters and emails, and social media postings related to the legislation.
https://pjmedia.com/columns/hans-a-von-spakovsky/2022/09/20/this-should-terrify-every-american-doj-harasses-citizens-for-exercising-their-first-amendment-rights-n1630918
What political group does this serve? The whole thing is a travesty, and unfortunately, the ones paying the consequences aren’t the ones doing it. I just don’t understand how it’s a positive politically for anyone except for the 17 ribbon, ladydick sporting, civilian admiral Rachel Levine. Anyone with any semblance of intelligence know that it’s terrible for kids, but since the right is against it, it is popular amongst the left.
Hospitals and big pharma companies are making big money from this. That is all this is about. It is why the British NHS has banned this crap. In a socialized system no one is making money off it.
Men dressed as woman have done more to advance accomplishments of women than any other group.
Men are better at being women than women are.
Just look a the documentary jawanaman
"What political group does this serve?"
Satan
Sure, the government is attempting to criminalize dissenting voices...but I do not see anything about weed, butt sex, or illegals...so Reason does. not. care.
Trans activists assaulted a 74 year old leading activist of the LGB alliance, a group of LGB against the transgender movement.
National Review reports that Sargeant is a member of the LGB Alliance, which is a gay rights group that is opposed to the trans/queer movement. He attended a Pride parade in Burlington, Vt., on Sunday. He silently held a sign that read “Gay, Not Queer” and handed out pamphlets outlining objections to the trans movement. For this transgression, he was hit, knocked to the ground, and had coffee poured over his head. His sign was taken, and he walked with the aid of his cane down the street to retrieve it. At that point, the above-mentioned beat-down was administered. In addition to the attack, parade participants stole roughly $600 of Sargeant’s personal property.
https://pjmedia.com/culture/lincolnbrown/2022/09/20/a-gay-rights-pioneer-is-attacked-by-trans-activists-n1630914
The group Gays Against Groomers was banned by Paypal and Venmo recently. Pretty sure I’ve read they were banned by Twitter a few weeks ago also.
https://twitter.com/XStrategiesLLC/status/1572388339738890246?cxt=HHwWjMDS8aa3n9IrAAAA
Honestly, not using PayPal or Venmo should be considered a mark of careful thinking at this point. Those kinds of platforms, especially when they're easily accessed via unsecure phone networks, are just begging to be hacked and manipulated by bad actors.
Remember in the early days of the internet, up until around the early 2010s, when the standard line was, "Don't put any of your personal or financial information online"? Smartphones and the rise of social media turned basic cybersecurity practices on their ear and morphed the internet in to a giant data-mining operation where some unaccountable technocratic leviathan harvests your preferences and an algorithm cranks out the best way to control social behavior. No wonder the WEF jerks itself off to this kind of stuff.
I won’t use either one.
I notice jeff refused comment on the story of this detransition story and how she felt she was manipulated. Instead he rushes to defend mutilating children.
So, Jesse.
Let's suppose we have a teenager who believes he/she is transgender and wants to pursue gender-affirming care.
Let's also suppose that the teenager's parents support their child, because they sincerely want to do what they think is best for their child.
In your preferred world, what should happen to the teenager, and what should happen to the parents?
I see lots and lots of articles from you expressing outrage. I see very little in the way of workable solutions, especially ones that are not just outright authoritarian.
So, what is your plan?
Lets suppose we have a 12 year old who wants to pursue a sexual relationship with an adult.
Lets suppose the 12 year old's parents support this because they sincerely want to do what they think is best.
FUCK OFF GROOMER
You are not just silly and stupid. You are a seriously sick fuck. You are as bad as Shreek.
Quick reminder that chemtard argued that not letting in child molesters as refugees was decreasing their liberty.
So, you think gender affirming care is the same as pedophilia?
If so, then what do you think should happen to the child, and what should happen to the parents?
So, you think gender affirming care is the same as pedophilia?
Saying a child is competent to consent to mulitlating himself and deciding he is a different gender is exactly the same thing as saying they are competent to consent to sex. Everyone knows that. You just lie and pretend it isn't true.
But I don't think a child is competent on his/her own to decide such things like radical genital surgery. A child cannot by definition consent to contracts, including a contract to perform such surgery.
But you haven't answered the question. What should happen to the child, and what should happen to the parents?
Don't be afraid to release your inner authoritarian if that is your preference here.
In the United States, that child cannot even get surgery until they turn 18.
False.
In what US jurisdiction is a minor legally allowed to consent to major surgery?
That doesn't mean they can't get surgery. It means only their parent or guardian can consent to it. And some things like tattoos and boob jobs cannot be done to minors at all.
Lying Jeffy tries to sneakily change what Dee just said.
The linked story literally says you're a fucking liar. God damn white Mike.
Cite?
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/aug/10/ron-desantis/transition-related-surgery-limited-teens-not-young/
“Genital reassignment surgery should be reserved for those 18 and older, according to guidelines for the medical care of transgender patients developed by the Endocrine Society and the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, or WPATH.”
Also from your cite:
In one case DeSantis provided, an individual from California received masculinizing chest surgery at 15. Under existing California law, an insurer cannot deny coverage for the surgery — which includes double mastectomies — based on a patient's age alone.
The procedure is mostly offered to teenagers 15 and older, The New York Times reported. However, we found one report of a 14-year-old who obtained the procedure, and there isn't a consensus on a specific age requirement among medical guidelines.
The other case involved Jazz Jennings, a transgender woman who stars in a reality television show on TLC. Jennings received genital reassignment surgery at 17.
You're citing references to guidelines from a society, not regulations.
I never said that it is regulations that prevent a minor from getting genital altering surgery. It isn’t regulations. It is restrictions US doctors have place on themselves, voluntarily.
WPATH just changed their guidance to remove all age barriers last weekend you ignorant fuck.
You're clearly mistaken on both counts: yes, doctors can and do.
I gave my cite. Please give yours that they “can and do”.
WPATH just changed their guidance to remove all age barriers last weekend you ignorant fuck.
And WPATH is notably funded by Jumbo Butt Pritzker's family.
I gave my cite. Please give yours that they “can and do”.
The videos that Walsh posted.
Or just the story from the detransitioner.
Mike is a fucking moron
Here you go:
In one case DeSantis provided, an individual from California received masculinizing chest surgery at 15. Under existing California law, an insurer cannot deny coverage for the surgery — which includes double mastectomies — based on a patient’s age alone.
The procedure is mostly offered to teenagers 15 and older, The New York Times reported. However, we found one report of a 14-year-old who obtained the procedure, and there isn’t a consensus on a specific age requirement among medical guidelines.
The other case involved Jazz Jennings, a transgender woman who stars in a reality television show on TLC. Jennings received genital reassignment surgery at 17.
What is the penalty for tattooing a minor?
What's the penalty for having sex with a minor?
Do we punish the minor?
Why do we allow parental consent for some things, and not others?
This isn't new territory.
Jeff also rants about schools having to have books with pedophilia illustrations in school.
Jeff would be first to criticize the exact same thing if it was in support of a religious group looking to marry of 12 year olds to 40 year old men.
Or conversion therapy.
"Don't pray gay!"
Teenagers believe all kinds of stupid shit. It's the role of the parents to guide them, not sick fuckers like you and a bunch of fucked up teachers.
It is the role of parents to guide them. I think the vast majority of them do the best job that they can in trying to do so. Not everyone agrees with the best way to guide kids successfully into adulthood. One of the premises of libertarianism is that we don't all have to agree on the "best" way - we can each have our own space to do what we think is right, consistent with not violating the NAP. And I think with parenting, as libertarians, we should be suspicious and skeptical of claims that parental decisions that we may simply disagree with ought to be classified as "child abuse" and therefore violations of the NAP. I agree that gender affirming care is one of the more difficult cases in this regard, but still, my belief is that parents ought to retain the authority to do what they think is best, and in their sincere best interests of their child, and in this case, because the surgery and hormone aspects of gender affirming care is so irreversible, I would mandate that before there was any irreversible changes to a child's physiology, that the parents and child get adequate counseling from multiple authorities, and are absolutely certain in their decision and that it is not just a whim or a fad. But I would not outright ban it for everyone because there is a very small minority of people for whom it is actually a positive act.
But if you disagree, then clearly explain why.
Now do child depression and suicide.
BTW - "Gender affirming care" is simply leftist propaganda. Like saying boob jobs or Botox is "care"
Wait until they're 18 and pursue their goal then.
Not even a difficult question.
It is if your goal is to make it okay to fuck kids. And that is Jeff's goal.
Seems to be.
I know one of the more "laughable" beliefs of QAnon is they apparently think there is a large ring of pedos running the world.
I'm becoming a believer in that. The elites are abnormally fond of pedos.
They sure seem to be. QAnon is a disinformation campaign run by some intelligence agency, likely the CIA. All good disinformation campaigns contain just enough truth to make the lies believable. Maybe the part about the elites all being pedophiles is the grain of truth.
""All good disinformation campaigns contain just enough truth to make the lies believable. "'
Or perhaps a little bit of what people want to believe even if not the truth. Take the letter the 50 intel people signed about the Hunter laptop. They said it had the hallmark of a Russian disinformation campaign. That was a lie which the media ran with to claim it was in fact a disinformation campaign even though the letter stated the intel signatures was saying it was not actually their belief that it was true.
All good disinformation campaigns contain just enough truth to make the lies believable.
You've just described all of partisan media.
Gender affirming care is not the same as pedophilia. Where do you get this nonsense?
"Mutilation is not the same as pedophilia. Where do you get this nonsense?"
FTFY.
Minors should not be mutilated. Adults can be if they so desire.
I accept that this is your position.
So, in this case, we have a teenager who wishes to have gender affirming care, and we have parents who want to be supportive of their child and do what they sincerely believe is best for their child.
In your preferred world, what should happen to the child, and what should happen to the parents?
Child should wait until they're 18. Parents and doctor should be in prison for child mutilation. There is no compromise here.
i'm eighteen
i get confused every day
eighteen
Am i dysmorphic or gay
They should seek mental health counseling to address the issues the child is having with gender dysphoria in order for the child to learn to be able to accept their body.
I still remember when supposedly intelligent people were against female castration. But leftist virtue signaling activists like jeff now want to do so much worse. Despite the regret rate of transitioned sky rocketing.
We live in a weird time where things like female genital mutilation is both abhorred and celebrated in this country.
If you read Matt Walsh posted material it includes Vanderbilt medical requiring the allowance of trans activists in the community to be present when children are consulting with the doctors, even if parents don’t ask for it. This is to ensure doctors who may be hesitant don’t point kids to other health care options.
The same was happening in Britain and the Nordic states prior to being discovered. They finally ended the practice.
I saw his recent reporting on Vanderbilt. It’s pretty horrific what they were doing. Funny the university decided to nuke its entire transgender website.
Prepubescent children lack the capacity to make such decisions. If you have not undergone puberty, you have zero inkling of the weight of the decision you are making or the consequences you will suffer as a result of your choice. Never mind that, for many kids, it is a phase that they grow out of, that most of the hormones they pump into kids are incredibly harmful to their health and drastically increase the likelihood of all sorts of illnesses, including cancer, or that the procedure doesn't really work as effectively advertised.
Okay then.
So in your ideal world, what should happen to the teenager, and what should happen to the parents?
Mental health treatment. Pretty easy.
If I believe that I am Superman, it would be best for a mental health expert work with me to help me understand that I am not Superman.
The answer is definitely not to buy me a cape and tell me to jump off a building.
Okay. So there are some mental health professionals who might argue that gender affirming care IS an appropriate mental health treatment. Others might counsel to just "grow out of it". Others might offer different recommendations.
If we're going to stick to our libertarian bona-fides, then we really don't want the government to be dictating to mental health counselors the "correct" way to treat mental health issues, do we?
Furthermore, even if all the mental health professionals were to all agree on a single treatment recommendation, there is nothing forcing anyone to accept that recommendation. Parents and teenagers would still be free to pursue surgery and/or hormones if they truly wanted it, right? Or not?
My point here is that this is a much more difficult issue than what either tribe's demagogues present it to be, and just focusing on the daily outrage really isn't helpful.
It's really not that difficult of an issue. We've just created one in our modern society that seeks all ways to create civil rights issues, victim classes, and anti-establishment positions.
It's a mental health issue that should be treated as such. Whether government gets involved, really comes down to whether there is a legitimate protection of others the government needs to engage in.
In this case, I would argue that permanent medical procedures should be prohibited until the child is 18 and an adult that is free to make their own decisions about their own body.
Pretty easy, actually.
In this case, I would argue that permanent medical procedures should be prohibited until the child is 18 and an adult that is free to make their own decisions about their own body.
But it's not even that simple. For example, if a child has cancer, doctors might recommend chemotherapy, which itself might cause other longer-term issues such as sterility. If a child is diagnosed as suffering from depression, then the child might be prescribed SSRIs, which also can have dangerous side-effects. These treatments aren't regarded as child abuse, or made illegal, however, because we recognize cancer and depression as diagnosable, valid medical conditions, and the good-faith treatments recommended by doctors are following established best practices.
So what is different about gender dysphoria? It IS a recognized medical condition. And there IS a recommended standard of care for teenagers suffering from gender dysphoria, which MAY include gender reassignment surgery, but only after lots of counseling and a clear indication that a decision such as this is taken very seriously and not on a whim or based on a fad. Which is how any major medical decision ought to be treated frankly. And so I think that the same standard that we would use for cancer or depression ought to be used for gender dysphoria as well. Let parents consult with their kids as well as with doctors and counselors to decide on the best course of action. The only government coercion that I might introduce here is a requirement that the medical professionals actually follow the recommended standard of care. That means, no surgery based on a whim or on a fad.
Your comparisons are physiological medical ailments that will result in permanent crippling or death of the child without proven and effective treatment.
Using cosmetic surgery to address a mental health issue is not remotely comparable. And even if you think it is, the statistics and studies about medical treatment for gender dysphoria do not show that it is actually proven and effective treatment.
I mean, if a child claimed to be a bird and the parents were on board with it, is it cool to perform permanent surgery on the child to install wings and a beak? If a child thinks they are a dinosaur and the parents agree, is it okay to allow them to undergo permanent cosmetic surgery to look like a velociraptor?
At some point, common sense has to come into play when it comes to gender dysphoria.
Permanent genital altering surgery isn’t forbidden by law but US doctors won’t do the surgery until you are 18 by self-adopted standards. Now, one may say it would be better to have an explicit law, but one should also admit it isn’t a major issue.
It is possible to get breast removal before 18, but it is quite rare. So, again, why is this a major culture war issue?
Hey Mike, they ARE doing it to people are under 18. And now they’re pushing to remove ALL age barriers to these mutilations.
https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2022/09/age-restriction-lifted-for-gender-affirming-surgery-in-new-international-guidelines/?fj=1
FTA:
CHICAGO --- The World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) today today announced its updated Standards of Care and Ethical Guidelines for health professionals. Among the updates is a new suggestion to lift the age restriction for youth seeking gender-affirming surgical treatment, in comparison to previous suggestion of surgery at 17 or older.
Alithia Zamantakis (she/her), a member of the Institute of Sexual & Gender Minority Health at Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine, is available to speak to media about the new guidelines. Contact Kristin Samuelson at ksamuelson@northwestern.edu to schedule an interview.
“Lifting the age restriction will greatly increase access to care for transgender adolescents, but will also result in the need for parental consent for surgeries before doctors would likely perform them,” said Zamantakis, a postdoctoral fellow at Northwestern, who has researched trans youth and resilience. “Additionally, changes in age restriction are not likely to change much in practice in states like Alabama, Arkansas, Texas and Arizona, where gender-affirming care for youth is currently banned.”
And even if you think it is, the statistics and studies about medical treatment for gender dysphoria do not show that it is actually proven and effective treatment.
But that's not true. There IS evidence that it CAN work.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/political-minds/202201/the-evidence-trans-youth-gender-affirming-medical-care
This is a review of 16 studies on gender affirming care for transgender teenagers. Overall, gender affirming care led to lower rates of depression and lower probability of suicide.
It did not work for everyone. Not everyone received surgery, some just received puberty blockers. Some only received counseling, no drugs. The same strategy does not work for everyone. The evidence is not as overwhelmingly convincing as, say, using chemotherapy to treat cancer, that is correct. But the evidence is not totally absent either.
Jeff,
The science is most definitely out on whether cosmetic surgery is beneficial as a mental health treatment. Just because some scientists say it works, does not justify mutilating children.
Allow adults to make their own decisions about seeking medical treatment to alter perfectly healthy bodies, but don't allow children to do it.
But again, common sense says cosplay, especially medically induced permanent (including requiring constant medical intervention the rest of your life) cosplay, is not how you treat mental health issues.
The science is most definitely out on whether cosmetic surgery is beneficial as a mental health treatment.
You are right in the sense that this is an emerging field of scientific study.
But the current evidence to date does not support the contention that it has ZERO benefit. Again not everyone is the same, some are helped while some are not helped. I think the more prudent course of action here is to leave the government coercion mostly out of the entire situation and let parents and children and doctors and counselors do what they think is best based on their best judgment.
Just because some scientists say it works, does not justify mutilating children.
No, it actually does justify gender-affirming care *for those certain number who would be most likely helped by it*. Not for everyone, not for every confused teenager, just for a small number of them. I mean, there is the scientific evidence you were asking for, right there, isn't?
Jeff, No, the scientific evidence is not there. Some studies say it may help, others say there is no benefit whatsoever.
And in the end, mutilating children (you call it gender affirming care in order 1984 Newspeak the reality out of the way, which ironically shows your own disdain for the reality of the situation) so they can cosplay their mental disorder is not a good solution.
Additionally, when you have places like Vanderbilt University explaining it’s a great money maker because these people become permanent patients (basically the medical form of subscription services), then even claims from doctors that mutilating perfectly healthy bodies start to become quite suspect.
Again, I know you are trying to play the woke game of “acceptance,” but at least have some standards and require people to be 18 before they make permanent and catastrophic medical life altering decisions.
We don't tell people who believe they should be crippled they should remove their limbs.
We don't tell anorexic people they should go on diets.
We don't tell people with schizophrenia they really are seeing people.
Day ain’t over yet.
If I believe that I am Superman, it would be best for a mental health expert work with me to help me understand that I am not Superman.
The problem is that a lot of these “mental health experts” are actively encouraging kids to transition, even going so far as to support claims that kids as young as a year old, when they barely have a conception of gender differences to begin with, should be encouraged in such beliefs. There’s an activist bloc of these people, growing by the year, that’s been very aggressive over the last 20-some years in rushing to “diagnose” kids with gender dysphoria and start the transitioning process as early as possible. That’s what happened with Jazz Jennings and Coy Mathis in the 2000s.
What’s actually needed at this point is to completely denigrate the “experts,” since this is now an industry-wide practice, and treat the promotion of transgenderism in minors as a criminal abuse statute, with legal consequences that include jail time.
Oh totally. Politics and activism has overtaken the psychiatric and psychological community. Even though I would argue the psychological community has always basically been filled with activists, people with their own mental health issues, and charlatans pretending to know much more about the brain and human behavior than they do.
But in a rational world, people suffering from gender dysphoria should be helped to accept and understand who they are rather than being encouraged in their delusions.
Why is it that so many mental health "professionals" are also mental illness "patients"?
Why is it that so many mental health “professionals” are also mental illness “patients”?
Mostly because they think going in to the mental health field is going to help them solve their own issues.
That's not a joke, either--a military doctor in charge of medical group stated that exact thing to me a few years ago.
As the doctors at Vanderbilt stated, lifetime treatments! Huge profit.
It’s definitely not the same. But what is concerning related to pedophilia is not the “gender affirming care,” it’s the weird infatuation that adults have with childrens’ sexuality and sexual behavior.
So in the meantime, what should happen to the child and what should happen to the parents?
How many times are you going to ask this question?
We all know he's not arguing in good faith. He came up with what he thinks is a clever retort, and so he's going to repeat it over and over without any consideration of actual responses.
Until everyone is too exhausted to reply. He thinks he wins this way. He doesn’t, but he’s not very bright.
Let's suppose you have a 12 year old that wants desperately to be part of the deaf community - they genuinely feel that they are deaf. They live like they are deaf.
Should the parents support them in their attempt to surgically remove their eardrums?
Or the paraplegic community. The logic applies to anything. But Jeff says this is different because REASONs and because the party told him to believe this.
Principals not principles.
There are teenagers who suffer from body dysmorphic disorder, it is true. So I would advocate that individuals who are suffering from this disorder get relevant treatment. I'm not a doctor so I don't know what the most appropriate treatment might be. I'm willing to leave it up to the teenager, parents, doctors and counselors to decide on a suitable medical course of action. Are you?
But when trans-supportive doctors say that transitioning should begin as early as 4 - yes, 4 years old - you support and repeat those doctors.
When other doctors say no, that is insane and most dysphoria clears up on its own. - and a large percentage of the young dysmorphics are actually just gay you say they don't know what they're talking about.
Also, if you don't know, why are you taking a side here?
Like the hipocratic oath
"first do as much harm as possible to create a lifelong customer"
I'm not second-guessing the doctors' judgment here, that's everyone else.
Personally I would never permit my child to undergo gender reassignment surgery. I think that is nuts.
But I also don't want to criminalize the practice for the very few for which it could be helpful.
But maybe we need to wait to determine if it is actually helpful to anyone. As right now, the data does not indicate that. Moreover, because of that fact, it is best to prevent children from permanently mutilating their bodies for something they can't fully comprehend and that may not work at all.
So all doctors believe as you do? If not you are second guessing every doctor that belives you are wrong.
You are second guessing the doctor's judgement.
Umm, no I'm not.
You were second guessing the doctors during COVID too.
I was? Can you cite an example?
Who is helped by being surgically mutilated and crippled to satisfy a delusion?
Based on the evidence, no. Too many people like you destroying these children’s lives. This is why we have the anti grooming law for FL schools too. Because of progs like you.
Let's suppose, in your example, that the parents sincerely believe that the child is ill, they have consulted counselors and doctors who also agree that the child is ill, and that this medical procedure will help the child.
What should happen?
Parents who truly believe medicine is bad tend to have kids taken away from them for neglect.
Just sayin'. And their idiotic beliefs are less damaging than lopping off body parts.
Okay. So in your preferred world, teenagers who want gender affirming care should be removed from their parents' custody and treated as wards of the state. Is that correct?
The parents should be treated as child abusers? Is that correct?
Should the child get mental health treatment while as a ward of the state?
>> teenagers who want gender affirming care
teenagers who want cellphones
teenagers who want BMW 325i convertibles
teenagers who want plastic surgery
"Okay. So in your preferred world, teenagers who want gender affirming care should be removed from their parents’ custody and treated as wards of the state. Is that correct?"
No. A child wanting something stupid is expected behavior of children.
If their parents go along with it, then yes, prison for child mutilation.
"The parents should be treated as child abusers? Is that correct?"
Neutering their children at before puberty, undergoing untested massive hormonal therapies (high testosterone causes significant problem in men...imagine how much it will fuck up women. And the clinical studies of the impact of high levels of estrogen on men is not deep, but it is not positive). Butchering their bodies. Not sure what else you could describe it as other than mutilation and unspeakable abuse.
Take the drunken abusive father stereotype, multiply it, and you have "Gender affirming care".
I understand that you think it is child abuse.
I just want to know what you think should happen to the teenager in question. You've already said that the parents should belong in prison. So who raises the kid?
Family members. Foster system.
I am not going to support leaving a child with abuse because "Who else would raise them?" Honestly, it'd be harder to find somebody worse than somebody big on "gender affirmation"
Okay, so "foster system" is "ward of the state", as I said.
If this teenager does wind up in the care of the foster system, should this teenager receive mental health treatment? Should it be involuntary if necessary?
Hopefully the child would receive mental health treatment. But, treatment in this country is generally a voluntary matter unless the person is showing signs of being an imminent threat to public safety.
As such, the issues of gender dysphoria should be treated by foster situations like all other mental health issues. Why would it occupy a special place?
"If this teenager does wind up in the care of the foster system, should this teenager receive mental health treatment? Should it be involuntary if necessary?"
Should they get help? It'd be nice, but if they do not wish to get help, then such help would be a waste for the child and a professional. But, in many cases, getting them away from their sick parents will go a long way in stopping this nonsense as is.
Involuntary psychological care is borderline useless. Psychiatric (with drugs et al) MIGHT be helpful in an involuntary setting, but if the issue is psychological and you do not see a problem, I see no way anything will help.
So, this teenager is just completely lost and broken then?
Jeff,
You struggle understanding reality. This teenager suffering gender dysphoria is the same as other teenagers suffering other mental health issues.
"So, this teenager is just completely lost and broken then?"
That ship left the port when the parents were on board with mutilating them.
"Take the kids away from an alcoholic parent who rapes them? Just leave them completely lost and broken then?"
You are a stupid, sea lioning fuck Pedo Jeffy. This isn’t complicated. But you are typically excruciating and dragging this out to ‘prove the sky is blue’ arguments with your sophist bullshit.
It should be illegal to surgically butcher children in this fashion. Period.
I do not believe the parents should take an ice pick to the kid's eardrums, that's for damn sure.
No, I don't support DIY surgery either.
...but if they found a surgeon who would do it...that's cool?
Free of coercion or pressure, of course.
Free of coercion or pressure, of course.
For the parents? I would presume so, yes.
For the teenager? I don't know. Maybe there is peer pressure or other social pressure to "come out as trans", or to hide their "true identity", or something. But I don't believe children alone ought to have the authority to be fully responsible for their own lives quite yet.
How about providing actual mental health treatment rather than perpetuating the mental health issue?
I see very little in the way of workable solutions, especially ones that are not just outright authoritarian.
"I hold decisive dominion over The Final Solution. There are no other solutions besides mine that are not outright authoritarian." - chemjeff radical individualist
"It's all gray. Who can know? Just let 'em cut it off." - chemjeff typical collectivist
Wouldn't a collectivist solution be to declare either that gender affirming care works successfully for everyone claiming to be trans and that it should be encouraged on all, OR to claim that gender affirming care never works for anyone claiming to be trans and that it should be banned? That is, to completely collectivize trans individuals as all the same?
It's amusing that you characterize my position, the one that says "we should let individuals best judge for themselves the best course of action", as the collectivist solution. LOL
There are no other solutions besides mine that are not outright authoritarian.
Don't think I said that.
I don't give a shit.
"I can't conceive of a negro equal to a white man." - chemjeff radical individualist
So, what is your plan?
Let's suppose we have a teenager who wants to impersonate Tezcatlipoca during the 20-day month of Toxcatl, during which he is sacrificed.
Let’s also suppose that the teenager’s parents support their child, because they sincerely want to do what they think is best for their child.
In your preferred world, what should happen to the teenager, the parents, and the sacrificial priests? More pointedly, exactly how much Tezcatlipoca-worship would you endorse in your local school?
So, what's your plan, fucktard?
Now they’re pushing to eliminate any age barriers to these surgical mutilations of children.
And Big Tech is very supportive. Google, Venmo, and Paypal very quickly all banned Gays Against Groomers.
Yup, we can trust big tech. They do not need to be forced to heel.
"Russia will use all the instruments at its disposal to counter a threat against its territorial integrity—this is not a bluff."
Awesome. We might finally get that fullscale US - Russia war I've been advocating since 2017. 🙂
#LibertariansForWarWithRussia
OBL, just between us, which Koch companies have contracts for war materiel with both sides?
Aww.. he just be bluffin with his muffin
Migrants flown to Massachusetts file class action lawsuit against DeSantis
Damn! Migrants know how to use the American legal system? Oh, wait, no. It's fucking scumbag lawyers that filed these lawsuits on behalf of migrants who have no idea that they're being used as political pawns. "Being used as political pawns". Where have I heard that exact phrase being used before? Hmmm, I don't really remember, but I know I've heard it before.
No, no, no. You are confused. They are being *fed prawns*. Totally different from DeathSatan.
A class action suit of 3. I wonder how many lawyers are representing them. Some group should organize the other 47 to sue Martha's Vineyard for false advertising.
MV set up a fund to "help the Venezuelans" but kept the money instead.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11221605/GoFundMe-Marthas-Vineyard-migrants-sent-cash-16m-local-non-profit-instead.html
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Nah, they're open.
S'up SIV.
"Migrants sue DeSantis"
Please, Reason staff, keep writing about this multiple times per day until Biden's DOJ throws DeSantis in prison for KIDNAPPING and HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
#LizCheney2024
Maybe we should start flying US immigrants to Kiev. Or Moscow.
"The official Department of Justice tally of deaths in state prisons and jails was almost 1,000 deaths short last year, says the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations."
Have the Clintons been slacking off?
Bill gets Monica to do that.... oh, "slacking" off.
They're back in business. reviving the Clinton Global Initiative.
More developments in the saga of Florida flying migrants to Massachusetts:
Weird. ENB left out the release of the forms signs by the immigrants and the packages given them. Almost like she is completely dishonest.
Aren't the people the Soros funded law group are using just being used as pawns? No? Now it is virtuous?
Doesn't matter how many times you tell them, the usual suspects are here with their counter factual talking points. The problem is, ENB is just another chemjeff or SRG but with a bigger soap box and makes more than 50 cents.
Anybody else take the survey a few days ago and mention that there needs to be a user profile section for comments and an edit button?
Voila!
'This Is Not a Bluff': Putin Amps Up Nuke Threats
Thanks to Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Tony Fauci corrupt FBI/DOJ officials and left wing media propagandists, during the past 2 years, my savings/investments declined 25%, costs of living increased 15%, and Biden has declared war against Russia, Republicans, and perhaps China in the near future.
Unfortunately, the vast majority of useful idiots who voted for Biden will religiously vote for Democrats again in November.
Just look at who is leading the U.S. Senate race in Penna. A Bernie Sanders minion with serious health problems and challenged dress code. It is being reported Fetterman's campaign appearances consist of his wife giving the speech and Fetterman saying "hi."
But the voters are buying it and the GOP primary voters sure helped by nominating someone easily dismissed as a Hollywood/Jersey carpetbagger and quack medicine peddler.
I don't think there's any way Uncle Fester can win, and I think the internal polling is starting to show it. Even the Washington Post went after him and his health last week. We're starting to see this in other races, and I don't buy that such loyal foot soldiers would be stepping out of line.
No worries, I'm sure Kamala can also get 81 million votes in the dead of night.
I dunno creech....given the choice between a grungy looking, speech impaired stroked-out progressive versus a medical doctor who is a political naif....the choice is not a great one.
I'll go out on a limb here: I think the medical doctor just barely gets the edge in brainpower and ability to intelligently debate in the US Senate.
As a Republican who has lived in PA my whole life, I think Oz will win the election despite virtually all news media propagandists actively campaigning for Fetterman and trashing Oz ever since the June primary.
Virtually every news story about the race has portrayed Fetterman very positively, while lying about and trashing Oz.
After Oz repeatedly requested multiple debates with Fetterman for months (which Fetterman rejected or ignored), last week Fetterman finally said he'd debate Oz (but not until Oct 25 even though mail in voting has already started in PA).
So of course, the left wing Pittsburgh Post Gazette's front page headline the next day stated "Fetterman agrees to debate Oz, but Oz won't agree to terms", and the rest of the article smeared Oz while praising Fetterman.
By introducing and promoting his US Senate bill to ban abortion nationwide one week after Dr. Oz said he opposed a nationwide abortion ban (and believed it was an issue for states to decide), Lindsey Graham is now actively campaigning for Fetterman to win in November.
Abortion appears to be the single most important issue that will determine who wins PA elections for Governor, PA House and Senate, and US Senate in November.
Had it not been for the SCOTUS and now Lindsey Graham, Dr. Oz and Doug Mastriano would easily win here in November.
Dismembering babies is our most sacred constitutional right.
Oz is easily dismissed as that because that is exactly what he is.
If those people were smart they'd run both out of the state on a rail.
Oz is now in the "polling error." And this far from an election the polls have been 5% biased towards dems. Can provide a link if you want regarding the last 3 cycles.
Oz vs Fetterman , brought to you by Eunice Kennedy Shriver.
Oz is a doctor. You really can't call the guy stupid. Fetterman in contrast literally spent most of his life living in his parents' basement and campaigning for office. He has no accomplishments in life at all.
Sounds like a Biden protege.
Hey! Biden's crackhead grifter son worked hard for Biden to afford that basement!
He bought a lot of condemned properties, with many thinking to force public development for profit. He has more buildings than Oz does. And he didnt report it on his declarations until caught.
Oh so doctors are smart because they doctors, got it. Now, explain to me how smart doctors were running the country the last few years.
Who ever said smart people can't believe stupid things or do stupid things. "Smart" doesn't mean perfect.
Fair enough; I've heard too many "trust the experts" for one life time that perhaps I've gotten too sensitive.
Not stupid is not the same thing as smart. Briggs did not call him smart. Just saying.
Yes you can. It's like saying you can't call a scientist stupid - when there are ample examples of them being stupid.
It is being reported Fetterman’s campaign appearances consist of his wife giving the speech and Fetterman saying “hi.”
But the voters are buying it
For the second time.
Fuck the GOP, they’re in it to lose. The American Enterprise Institute had Liz Cheney speak yesterday to shiv their so called party.
What fucking retard would ask ENB about libritarianism?
Jeff, sarc, mike, shrike, brandy, jfree...
Most progressives at D.C. cocktail parties, who want to sound edgy.
Reason got an edit button!
It's about damn time. I guess someone there figured out it's the 2020s, not the 1920s.
I've got an edit button too! And mine is bigger and works!
I will note that NR has had an edit button for years. So, good job being behind among the stodgier conservative publications in your tech infrastructure.
Though Commentary has no comments, but instead has a button that generates a letterhead to the editor about the given article. Which is less convenient but pretty fucking classy.
A new art project uses artificial intelligence to envision celebrities who died young as if they were still alive today.
Odd that none of these celebrities got fat or showed the ravages of heavy drug use - even Elvis looks good in his old age. Wait, how old would Elvis be if he were alive today? Nearly 90? So almost Biden's age.
Ol' Freddie was able to kick the AIDS and everything.
Why not dig them up and see what they look like now?
ELVIS IS REAL!
https://www.dailywire.com/news/gov-bill-lee-calls-for-investigation-of-vanderbilts-pediatric-transgender-clinic-following-matt-walsh-bombshell
Vanderbilt opened its trans clinic in 2018. During a lecture the same year, Dr. Shayne Taylor explained how she convinced Nashville to get into the gender transition game. She emphasized that it's a "big money maker," especially because the surgeries require a lot of "follow ups"
As with everything the left does, the answer to all of your questions is "money". Money and sick fucks like Jeff and Shreek who just want to be able to fuck children.
I would say the children fucking is a big driver of this. It's incredible how many androgynous, little boy looking trannies I have seen the last couple of years. In the past, it seemed like trannies wanted to look good and adult, now they all have short hair and weird voices like pre-teen boys.
The child fuckers are all over this too. But it wouldn't be happening if there wasn't so much money to be made.
You and your fellow QAnon faggots can't get Fatass Donnie elected again. He lost to a barely functional old man.
Speaking of child fuckers. And like all child fuckers he throws out the homophobic slur. Sorry shreek, when you jerk off to films of little boys being sodomized, that is gay porn. Their being little boys and you just wanting to fuck them doesn't make you straight. Just get out of the closet and come to terms with it. No one cares that you are gay. They do care that you are a child fucker into child porn. Go get some adult gay porn and be honest with yourself.
It is also funny how Shreek is now admitting Biden is "barely functional" after 18 months of sucking Biden's cock. I guess the party is about to throw old Joe over the side.
""I guess the party is about to throw old Joe over the side.""
That's what happens when you lose your usefulness to people who use you the most.
Did I strike a nerve?
No. But you shriked a nerve.
Oh look, another child-fucker crawled out to oppose anti-grooming policies. Remember that time you posted links to kiddie porn?
Eat shit, pedo.
You were banned for posting links to kiddie porn shrike.
All pedophiles like you deserve to get domed, just like Joseph Rosenbaum.
"Putin repeated a number of now-common lies—about the current war being a mission to liberate Ukraine from neo-Nazis and about Western nations turning Ukrainians against Russia and fomenting war. "The goal of that part of the West is to weaken, divide and ultimately destroy our country," he said."
Are there not Nazis there? How is it a lie when Putin comes to 'liberate' you from Ukrainian Nazis but it's not a lie when we come to 'liberate' you from 'terrorists'?
And did we not give them the support they needed to be able to feel confident to stand up to this aggression?
This is all literally 'from a certain point of view bullshit'.
-“The goal of that part of the West is to weaken, divide and ultimately destroy our country,” he said.
I explicitly condemn Putin's invasion of Ukraine. However, I believe this part of that quote is true- there are plenty of Western politicians who are happy to use Ukrainians as a weapon against Russia, and have been pushing for just what has happened to happen.
How is Ukraine being used against Russia? The west is supporting Ukraine because Russia invaded. Russia is not being threatened, Putin is but he brought that on himself.
How is Ukraine being used against Russia?
Are you serious?
And we've kept them supplied to keep them in the fight to drain Russia.
I'm not necessarily against proxy wars - but this is at least half our proxy war.
A couple of years ago I would have thought the same but things started emerging;
VP Biden threatening to withhold aid unless a certain prosecutor was fired.
Biden, Pelosi and Kerrys children involvement with Burisma.
The Dems going ballistic when Trump inquired about Biden's dealings and impeaching him.
The US interference in the 2014 election.
https://www.cato.org/commentary/americas-ukraine-hypocrisy
The CIA and FBI fanatical actions regarding Trump and his associates
Putin repeated a number of now-common lies—about the current war being a mission to liberate Ukraine from neo-Nazis and about Western nations turning Ukrainians against Russia and fomenting war.
We know these are lies because our glorious state media reports them as such!
BREAKING Democrats cynically use migrants as foils in lawsuit to attack DeSantis.
Migrants Are People Not Props!
That stance is so pre-September 21, 2022.
How would global dynamics change if we deliberately targeted political leaders for assassination? Why should we maintain any sort of gentleman's agreement for heads of state while accepting that peasants are canon fodder?
Sure, taking out a bunch of presidents, prime ministers, and Dear Leaders each year might be disruptive. But maybe it would discourage people from pursuing those positions.
taking out leaders unless in an active war just pisses people off. Most Americans of any political bent would be surely pissed if some country killed Biden and we hate Biden. Its like a family thing you may hate certain relatives but nobody say a bad thing about any of them
Are you sure about that? Ask Hillary.
Look at the bright side, Biden's approval ratings would skyrocket.
How would global dynamics change if we deliberately targeted political leaders for assassination?
Because it's seen as a declaration of war. For example, if we managed to assassinate Putin, then the next thing Russia would do is launch all their nukes at us.
On the other hand, it's not unheard of to try during wartime, but it's rarely successful because political leaders are surrounded by peasant meatshields.
I guess I am dreaming that if we took out Putin, the collective desire in Russia would be to go after Biden. Or vice-versa.
Win/win.
Quicker/more nuclear proliferation as a deterrent against assassination.
*We* don't.
How many heads of state has the US targeted for assassination/kidnapping over the last 30 years?
This is why we need government: do you think your church, or your boss, is going to threaten nuclear annihilation all by themselves? Market failure!
I'm confident Prick Cohen, Dave Smif, The Maeces Caucasians, Henchman, Boothead and Tokyo Pink can anarchize together enough antimissile capabilities, tha Good Lawerd willing, to neutralize any atheist threat to Herbert Hoover's New Race. Amen. Who needs a Second Amendment regulated militia, anyway?
Hey ENB, I don't normally join in on the ritual shitting on you linx but what the hell is up with the posting of Twats by Twitter rando's? Are we supposed to know who these people are? Are they known as deep thinkers? Have any relevancy to the topic at hand?
Or is do you do it to fill out a word count?
They must've shown up as blue checks on her feed.
Which means they are the best of people.
The worst thing about Twitter may be simply how it has cheapened journalism for so many journalists.
Yeah, I'm not one to dunk on her on a daily basis, either, but there's not context at all for why we should take these Twits from Twits in to consideration. It just appears like a lazy re-posting of random shit that's going through her feed, like the Poophat response to Masnick that she included yesterday.
To be fair, Aaron Rupar was a go-to link for some reason at one time, but she's blessedly left that idiot's brain farts off these pages for a while now.
Wait until she starts linking to Tik Tok.
Re: Russia
Mobilizing up to 300K conscripts is a very big deal. Were I Putin, I would get concerned about my back door, guarded by my 'friend' Xi.
Sadly, Ukraine will be 'Grozny-ed' by Russia. That will come at great cost of men and materiel for Russia, and I am not particularly sorry about the Russians getting kicked in the balls. The Russians can stop the killing and bloodshed simply by going home.
Crimea will soon be a hotspot. What happens when Ukraine makes a move on Sevastopol?
"Were I Putin, I would get concerned about my back door, guarded by my ‘friend’ Xi."
Hey, this is a family blog!
BREAKING: Migrants flown to Massachusetts file class action lawsuit against DeSantis and other Florida officials in federal court
There are two things on this.
1. The migrants aren't suing DeSantis, soros-funded lawyers are suing DeSantis on behalf of migrants.
2. It's understandable they would sue DeSantis, because what Migrant would want to go to Martha's Vineyard-- a community that didn't want them.
DeSantis is a monster. He sent them to the most xenophobic and racist place in the country. While liberals don't live next to brown people. Everyone knows that.
What damages are they claiming?
I guess he just needed to eat some meat.
https://nypost.com/2022/09/20/beyond-meat-coo-doug-ramsey-suspended-by-vegan-company/
Some people will never be happy, even if they aren't eating bugs. 🙂
Any campaign that spams my email or text, automatically looses consideration for my vote.
High Natural-Gas Prices Push European Manufacturers to Shift to the U.S.
The Ukraine war is driving up energy costs in Europe, while relatively stable prices and green-energy incentives are luring companies to the U.S.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/high-natural-gas-prices-push-european-manufacturers-to-shift-to-the-u-s-11663707594
The US natural gas production is higher than ever holding the spot price to $7.70 mmbtu vs over $50 in Europe.
Don't you have a NAMBLA meeting to get to?
The US natural gas production is higher than ever holding the spot price to $7.70 mmbtu vs over $50 in Europe.
I thought you were arguing oil and gas prices weren't that high, Shrike?
Don't worry, Biden has a plan:
Biden’s freeze on oil, gas leases threatens to bring Europe’s energy nightmare to America
He doesn't go to NAMBLA meetings. They're held at his house. Well, basement. If his mom lets him have company over.
yeah, starting World War III is a really smart way to bring manufacturing back to the United States. Smart thinking there shreek.
Lay off the child porn. It rots your brain.
"...It rots your brain."
Brain? turd?
What a note of interest!
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, a TDS-addled asshole and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Fuck off and die,turd.
Oh wow, I wish you had informed me of this #DefendBidenAtAllCosts / #BestEconomyEver news a few days ago. 🙁
See, recently I was at a family gathering and I overheard several relatives claiming their portfolios are actually less valuable now than at any time in the Trump years — yes, even less than during the worst days of the pandemic.
I didn't know how to respond to that. Sure wish I had been armed with this crucial fact that proves Biden is doing a fantastic job and the US economy is in terrific shape.
#RigCountAboveAll
"BREAKING: Migrants flown to Massachusetts file class action lawsuit against DeSantis and other Florida officials in federal court"
No, the "migrants" didn't. Some ambulance-chasing, TDS-addled asshole did and then got them to sign the way the 'Camp Lejune' scum are doing: FREE MONEY!!!!!
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Joe Biden was heckled in 10 Downing Street, London with "Let's Go Brandon."
To be fair most every American president gets heckled except maybe Obama and thats because he did their bidding
Noice.
We don't like him. They don't like him either. Nice. 🙂
#FJB
#FJBP
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Hook it up to my veins
The ghost of Saul Alinsky smiles
Awesome! Needs to be flown everyday from now till at least November 8th.
"UN chief: World is 'paralyzed' and equity is slipping away"
[...]
"UNITED NATIONS (AP) -- In an alarming assessment, the head of the United Nations warned world leaders Tuesday that nations are "gridlocked in colossal global dysfunction" and aren't ready or willing to tackle the challenges that threaten humanity's future -- and the planet's.
"Our world is in peril -- and paralyzed," he said.
[...]
His opening remarks came as leaders from around the planet reconvened at U.N. headquarters in New York after three years of pandemic interruptions, including an entirely virtual meeting in 2020 and a hybrid one last year. This week, the halls of the United Nations are filled once more with delegates reflecting the world's cultures..."
https://www.newstribune.com/news/2022/sep/21/un-chief-world-is-paralyzed-and-equity-is/
Could it be those "interruptions" (mandated by tin-pot-dictator wannabes) had something to do with it?
I think he's just complaining that tax money went into someone else's pocket when it should have been flowing into his.
The UN, like the IOC, is an official global graft industry. With a logo and a flag.
So similar to all governments?
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Man admits to killing teen he identified as a "Republican extremist".
He wasn't the first and he won't be the last to die. This is the fruit of all the Democrats insane invective.
Yeah, that story is really fucked up. Guy gets in an argument with a teenager, I think the man was 40 and the kid was 17 or 18. Goes back to his car. Runs him down with the car.
He was told by Budenfurer that mega Republicans are the biggest threat to this country. Biden should be impeached for inciting murder.
Strange, no mention by ENB. If an UltraMAGA dude killed a young progressive, we'd have every Reason Editor screeching about how it's Trump's fault.
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Republicans and conservatives increasingly unwilling to talk to pollsters out of fear.
Libertarians too. Or really, anyone to the right of Lenin. (No Mike, you're not and never were a libertarian)
"In 2020 people who supported Trump or espoused conservative values out of step with “Woke” culture found themselves being “canceled” or “doxed”. This led to “hidden voters” that “most” polling under counted, therefore Trump support in key battleground states exceeded expectations.
Now that the Biden administration has essentially classified “MAGA Republicans” as a threat to democracy marshaling federal law enforcement to focus on them. This move has created a new type of voter that will be even harder to poll or even estimate."
"This move has created a new type of voter that will be even harder to poll or even estimate.”
Or, as the Democrats call them, undesired voters.
Fear for some. General dislike for others. Some of us don't answer as we have actual jobs and are too busy for the pollsters.
Also, pollsters are really fking annoying.
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A racket whereby they amass money and power through destroying civilization.
Global Warming Laws Could Make Al Gore First "Carbon Billionaire"
A very convenient untruth?
O.G. NFT
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Republican Senators Ask For Special Prosecutor For Hunter Biden
"U.S Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) and 32 other Senate Republicans, including Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), wrote a letter to U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland asking him to grant special counsel protections and authority to U.S Attorney David C. Weiss for his investigation into Hunter Biden."
Why isn't this ALL of the Republican Senators? Seriously, the RINO establishment Republicans are a bunch of pussies.
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Asians, achievers are 'quiet quitting' public schools
That kind of happens when the schools stop teaching to a student's ability and start doing equity shit. The private schools will now take the cream of the crop.
It's even more general though. The public schools have long been failing low-performing students as well. It's really a situation where public schools largely exist as a jobs program.
It's deliberate. In order to have a powerful overclass, you need to maleducate the underclass.
Not at all surprising.
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Case Study On How Teachers Learn Critical Race Theory and Teach It To Their Students: Tredyffrin-Easttown in Suburban Philadelphia
Who Teaches the Teachers? TE paid consultant Pacific Educational Group at least $400k to teach CRT to school teachers, administrators.
And you know who is the President of Pacific Education Group? Merrick Garland's son in law if I am not mistaken. That is why Garland send the FBI after parents who show up at school board meetings to object to this stuff; they might cost his son in law money.
But Trump did that, right?
Garland is really an evil fuck. The more I learn about this guy, the worse he gets.
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Green energy policies lead to power outage, California college cancels its classes
California college cancels its classes
Is this an advertisement in favor of blackouts?
How in the fuck is Gavin Newsome ahead in the polls? How is it possible that regular rolling blackouts are seen as normal in a first world country?
Why would a bunch of Californians move to Jonestown, kill a US congress rep, and commit mass suicide?
Asking for a friend...
A bunch of morons who will vote Democrat even though it is detrimental to them. I've seen the same in Chicago. They'll vote for Adolf Hitler as long as he has a "D" after his name and refuse to vote for the Republican under any (and I do mean any) circumstances. They're basically brainwashed.
Well, in all fairness, Hitler was a vegetarian who loved to paint.
Yeah, that's why I can hardly be bothered to give a shit about crime and murder rates in deep blue urban shitholes like Chiraq. The people who live there not only WANT this shit, they want to take it nationwide.
"The California governor plans to 'Achieve 100 Percent Zero-Emission' by 2035"
Meanwhile, they've moved the shutdown date of California’s last nuclear plant to 2030.
No plans for any new California nuclear plants and they're shutting down existing ones, so it's obvious that the gentry class Democrats are simply planning to destroy the state. There's no other possible alternative. Even a retard with a hole in his head knows that you can't sustain a society on wind and solar.
If Nevada and Arizona had some sense, they'll start building the plants and infrastructure to sell excess nuclear power to Californians in 2036.
And if people in AZ and NV are the smartest in the room, they would include gigantic "off" switches at the CA border.
We don't have sense. We've been selling them out water for decades.
• The Atlantic's Conor Friedersdorf asks what public schools should teach children about gender.
Is this the Atlantic's way of admitting stage 2:
"Ok, it IS happening, but it's not as bad as you say?"
That is exactly what it is. Friedersdorf is exactly the sort of center left hack they use to set up a new modified limited hang out.
I hear the Overton window shifting.
More soft-peddling of the promotion of sexual deviance disguised as education by The Atlantic. Where is the evidence that pre-teens can actually detect gender non-conformity in themselves or others and that they need to be educated about it? An anecdote by a 19 year-old that includes when she was first asked what boy she liked? Note that there is no mention that she was put off by the notion of liking boys when she was first asked the question. Was it offensive to her as a child, or is it offensive to her as an 'educated' queer adult?
How can there be something inherently wrong with kids being acculturated to norms? We can teach kids to share. We can teach kids not to bully. We can teach kids not to be scared of people who have different skin or hair or have scars or are in a wheelchair. These are all things kids have experience with and will help them understand tolerance. Why teach a child who has never experienced sexual attraction about gender in order to teach them tolerance? It is not teaching, it is indoctrination.
Tolerance should be taught from Kindergarten. Tolerance for different appearances and tolerance for different ideas. Gender should be talked about when it becomes relevant.
It should also be noted that prior the last 25 years, complete acceptance was not the litmus test for tolerance. Not speaking or acting against the other person was always considered to be perfectly tolerant.
AntiFa is the perfect example of the 'new tolerance' that is nothing but the whining of petulant middle-schooler: "if you don't accept us unconditionally and meet all our demands then you are behaving unacceptably and must be opposed."
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Beyond Meat Exec Turns Toward Long Pork
He just needed some real meat in his diet.
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Tony shrugs, "Amateur"
Doctors Find 55 Batteries In Woman's Body — 'Highest Reported Number' Ever
"Surgeons "milked" four of the cylinders from her colon to her rectum and then retrieved them from the anus."
Hey, at least she was trying to switch to renewal power.
I wish the Pogues were still around. Only McGowan has the spirit to tell this classic Irish tale in the way it deserves.
It was saddening to see Shane's struggles in "Crock of Gold," but it's been claimed that he has written and recorded new music. RIP Darryl Hunt (bass).
Republicans "Fuck you, Thomas Jefferson. Now let's ban some books!"
Most Republicans Support Declaring the United States a Christian Nation
Our polling found that white grievance is highly correlated with support for a Christian nation. White respondents who say that members of their race have faced more discrimination than others are most likely to embrace a Christian America. Roughly 59 percent of all Americans who say white people have been discriminated against a lot more in the past five years favor declaring the U.S. a Christian nation, compared to 38 percent of all Americans. White Republicans who said white people have been more discriminated against also favored a Christian nation (65 percent) by a slightly larger percentage than all Republicans (63 percent).
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/09/21/most-republicans-support-declaring-the-united-states-a-christian-nation-00057736
They are not going to go along with letting you fuck little boys shreek. Give it up and go find an adult gay hooker or something.
Found another example of that outrageous anti-Biden media bias you were talking about. Can you believe Twitter actually put this disinformation in the "What's happening" section?
5 Grocery Staples That Have Ridiculously High Prices Right Now
Five? FIVE?????!!!!!! Bunch of wingnut lies. You've been quite clear that exactly one item has risen in price since January 2021 — spittin' tobaccy. Which isn't even a "grocery staple" anyway.
#DefendBidenAtAllCosts
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a TDS-addled pile of shit, a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Fuck off and die, turd.
Aren't you late for your NAMBLA meeting?
Which is different from the banning of books the Democrats want, how?
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Profits Plummet And Vehicles Left Unfinished As Ford Struggles With Inflation
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Muh private company
PayPal Demonetises the Daily Sceptic
I'll be interested to read White Mike's explanation about how this is in the interests of Paypal shareholders and not the current federal government.
The site has offered some of the best analysis anywhere of Covid data, science and politics (and other topics that the woke would rather not discuss). As Toby Young explains, PayPal is even shutting down the personal accounts of donors to the Daily Skeptic.
But bake the fucking cake, right?
It's not a libertarian issue unless it impacts hookers or food trucks.
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Absolute Legend
Oakville, Ontario Town Council receives a passionate speech in support of artificial breasts.
The new Silicon Valley.
I hesitate to use the "F” word. But it is time. Fascism is creeping our way. And unless we recognize its characteristics, its history and its menace to our way of life, it could well overtake us.
Fascism is a form of government. It’s molded on far-right, authoritarian and ultranationalism dogma. It maintains power through dictatorial force, quashing of opposition and an unrelenting grip over our lives. It is what cult followers of Donald Trump clamor to achieve.
Why would anyone want to live in a fascist state? Well, the answer depends on which end of the stick you’re holding. If it’s the short end, you can be mercilessly deprived of your rights… even your life. If it’s the other end, you can be thrust into a desirable position of undeserved power, wealth, and dominance over others.
Whenever I compare Adolf Hitler and the German fascists of the last century to Donald Trump and his followers in this century, my Republican friends go ballistic. “Here we go again,” they scream. “Donald Trump is no Adolf Hitler.” To which I say, “Not yet. And certainly not for a lack of trying.”
https://www.publicopiniononline.com/story/opinion/2021/05/19/fascism-creeping-through-america/5164360001/
I don't know what I value more — your economic expertise, or your always reliable warnings about the LITERAL FASCISM that will overtake this country unless we vote Democrat.
Speaking of, I'm sure you know we just passed the one year anniversary of the SECOND INSURRECTION BY RIGHTWING EXTREMISTS that happened on 9 / 18 / 21 just like your intel sources said it would. Literally saved my life by convincing me to stay home that day.
#ButtplugHasTheBestIntel
Yeah, I also stayed home that day. Thank god... I stay home a lot of days now that I think about it.
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, a TDS-addled shitpile and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Fuck off and die, turd.
Oh fascism is creeping into America, all right. Financed by an old Hitler Youth member and pushed by goosesteppers like you.
So, right wing fascism bad, but left wing fascism good?
Fuck off.
See 04 August 1934: "I swear by God this sacred oath to render unconditional obedience to the Führer of the
AmericanGerman Reich and People,Joe TrumpAdolf Hitler, the Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, and to be willing at all times to risk my life as a brave soldier for this oath."Fascism creeps in by people who think they have a moral high road. They use courts to go after political opponents. They attempt to control behavior and control speech while giving themselves a pass. They nibble away at the ability to make your choices. They demand adherence to the party. Especially how the party frames issues of the day. The fascist think they are doing what is right for society. Fascists think their disrespectful treatment of fellow man is justified.
There's absolutely nothing "far-right" about fascism. That's a descriptor that was set up during the World War II era when the government was infiltrated by communists and comm-symps, who were pissed about Hitler going back on the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact and generally mad that they had lost out to the Nazis for control of Germany.
The opposite of communism is anarcho-capitalism, not fascism. The only difference between fascism and communism is that one is nationalist in character, and the other is globalist. Hitler hated the bourgeoisie just as much as Lenin did.
Why would anyone want to live in a fascist state? Well, the answer depends on which end of the stick you’re holding. If it’s the short end, you can be mercilessly deprived of your rights… even your life. If it’s the other end, you can be thrust into a desirable position of undeserved power, wealth, and dominance over others.
Yeah, definitely nothing like that going on now! This is projection on a scale that shouldn't even be possible.
Fun fact: almost all the online dictionaries I just checked define "fascism" as solely or mostly about right-wing nationalism and racism. Only one mentioned the concept of government control of business and commerce.
I guess words can mean whatever we want.
The Atlantic's Conor Friedersdorf asks what public schools should teach children about gender.
Whatever it takes to neglect basic math skills.
Friedersdorf had better be asking biologists.
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The Navajo Nation Takes a Hit for Biden’s Climate Policies
This happens in Canada too. Climate activists hire natives as props, meanwhile the bands and reserves who own oilfield companies or lease well sites are furious.
Democrats: telling brown people what to do since 1836.
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Joe Biden Was Deeply Involved With Selling U.S. Natural Gas to the ChiComs, New Docs and Whistleblowers Reveal
"Republicans on the House Oversight and Reform Committee have obtained bombshell documents proving that Joe Biden was deeply involved in the family business of selling American natural gas to the Chinese–while he was planning to run for President. According to multiple whistleblowers, the Biden family made promises to those who worked with them in 2017 and onward that they would “reap the rewards in a future Biden administration.” These explosive revelations “pose national security concerns,” Oversight Republicans proclaimed Tuesday night."
Unpossible. I am sure they meant to blame that on Trump.
Oh, that's just Joe trading on his political office! Nothing to see here!
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Armenia, On Its Own?
"Last week, a dictatorship—Azerbaijan—invaded the territory of an aspiring democracy—Armenia. Hundreds of Armenians were killed in a matter of hours, and Azerbaijan infiltrated deep inside Armenian territory. Although the two countries fought two years ago over the disputed region of Nagorno Karabakh—Armenian in population but within the borders of Azerbaijan—this invasion was qualitatively different. Resolving the Karabakh conflict was not the aim. Azerbaijan seeks large swaths of territory inside Armenia to create a land bridge to Turkey, thus establishing a pan-Turkic union from Europe to Central Asia, long the goal of Azerbaijan's patron, Turkey. Armenians stand in the way of this project, as they did 100 years ago, at the time of the Armenian Genocide."
But NATO!
Given the history, I would expect Russia to get involved sooner or later. Russia has historically positioned itself as the protector of Orthodox civilization, of which Armenia is a member. That's the last thing we need NATO Turkey getting into it with Russia.
Don't worry, they're in love right now.
That means Armenia's hosed.
Of course, the real question here is, why should I as an American give a shit about a fight halfway across the world between two shithole countries?
Because this is the world you live in, and what happens there can affect you in ways that might not be apparent now.
America shouldn't get involved, but Americans should be cognizant of what's happening.
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Denver: Giving Cash To Homeless Will Fix Everything
Denver: Trying to catch up with SF and Seattle!
A higher, drier Portland.
Still jealous about that whole CHAZ thing.
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TikTok Lawyer Says Left-Wing Nonprofit Offered Him $400 to Post Propaganda About Trump and Jan. 6
"Atlanta-based attorney Preston Moore claimed on Saturday that he was offered $400 by the nonprofit “Good Information Foundation” to post manipulative “propaganda” ahead of the 2022 mid term elections."
Meh. Lawyer says shit for money? Maybe the news is his low, low price.
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COVID Devotees Insist Pandemic Isn’t Over
They're the nutjobs still wearing cloth masks in grocery stores.
I see a good percentage of nutjobs wearing their masks *alone in their own car*
No lie
Masks today! Masks tomorrow! Masks forever!!
Brought to you by Anthony "George Wallace" Fauci.
Stockholm syndrome has taken over the Branch Covidians at this point.
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‘Crime Is a Construct'
Yeah, but progressivism is a mental illness.
Right about now is a good time to recall that in the Constitution anarcho-twitters spit upon, very last clause of Section 10 in Article I allows the states to defend themselves if "actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay." The Second Amendment guarantees that our right to "keep and bear arms," within the context of a well regulated militia, "shall not be infringed." Anarcho-socialist efforts to get rid of ABM and SDI systems and invite nuclear attack from the KGB's Russia are not forgotten.
When you are winning you don't have to make statements like Putin. The Ukrainians and their supporters, including the US, may not be winning but they are not losing either. I say hold fast and stay the course.
blah blah you dont know shit.
none of us do.
All these experts all over the internet talking about Ukraine/Russia like they know a damn thing
"I say hold fast and stay the course."
Pouring billions into a proxy fight with Russia?
How much have you donated to the cause?
Huh... Putin sounds like a leftard.
Blame EXACTLY what he's doing on everyone else.
PROJECTION must be the new fad of the 21st Century.
if you regularly use words like "leftard" you should know that you are already caught up on the fad you are describing.
Fuck off and die, lefty shitpile
fuck off and die, fuck off and die.... SQUAWK!!!!
Quit sockpuppeting Shrike, and go troll somewhere else.
i still don't know who shrike is, you lazy hack.
how about "shitlib"
It's been amusing to watch the Putin regime and the Biden regime use the exact same insults against one another. And ironically, they're both right.
"And ironically, they’re both right."
thx for the LOL
si tu puedes learn class action law from youtube in the time it takes to fly from Florida to Massachusetts
Look, the purpose of both Democrats and trial lawyers is to convince people they have been victimized, and then promise them money.
OK, let's all agree that the people arriving and crossing the border have been exploited for political gain by various and sundry actors from the time they heard about our glorious U.S. to the time they are finally processed and deported or admitted to residency. If we put "principles over people" then what is the moral thing to do, and who pays for it, when thousands of people show up in a place like Eagle Pass, TX? The leaders of this country - who happen to be the Democrats for the last two years - owe it to us to put forth their plan. The Republicans, Libertarians, Greens, Commies, what have you, then owe it to us to discuss their alternatives to the Democrat's plan. But, of course, there is an election coming up in six weeks, so neither team wants to seriously address the moral and practical solutions to this issue; far more satisfying to demonize whatever "the other side" is up to.
Once the Donbas votes in a referendum for joining Russia (which it has wanted to do since 2014), Ukraine will have permanently lost a huge part of its territory. That territory, now part of Russia, will need protection by the Russian military, hence the call-up of 300,000 soldiers. Contrary to the western liars, the call-up doesn’t signify Russia’s defeat, but rather its success in liberating the Donbas from the fascists in Kiev. As for Russia’s threat of nukes—Putin has made it clear many times that the situation in Ukraine doesn’t warrant their use. The West may believe its own lies that Russia is losing and will resort to nukes, but that’s pure bunk. In all likelihood, the West plans to use tactical nukes because it’s losing in Ukraine. This, of course, would be planetary suicide. Now is no time to start believing the MSM.
Russia has no ability to train and equip the people it is claiming to call up. It also lost a large portion of the Donbass over the past two weeks. The call up isn't going to stop the advance of the Ukrainian Army or the continued collapse of the Russian one.
The Russian Army, from before the Soviet Union, never replied on trained troops but rather a small cadre of professional officers and Warrants to handle the heavy thinking and large mass of rifles to do the heavy lifting.
Pushing conscripts into a meat grinder is SOP.for them.
The question this time is - do they have the political will to sustain it.
They no longer have a core of NCOs and officers to build around to even use those conscripts as cannon fodder.
You have all those pictures of Putin without a shirt rotating through your desktop background, right?
guess the war has not hurt the troll farms yet.
Yep, you're still here.
Lucky you.
rushing to the defense of a propaganda troll just to troll me..... pathetic.
Fuck off, Shrike. The only paid propagandists here are you and Jeff, and maybe Tony.
It's pretty ballsy for a fifty-center like you to be bitching about it though.
one day you might make an insult that makes sense...... today does not seem to be that day.
as far as i can tell, all you chumps can come up with is claiming someone is whoever the fuck shrike is. it really is pretty sad.
No one knows anything about what's going on with this. Dont pretend you do.
"Early in life I have noticed that no event is ever correctly reported in a newspaper, but in Spain, for the first time, I saw newspaper reports which did not bear any relation to the facts, not even the relationship which is implied in an ordinary lie. I saw great battles reported where there had been no fighting, and complete silence where hundreds of men had been killed. I saw troops who had fought bravely denounced as cowards and traitors, and others who had never seen a shot fired hailed as the heroes of imaginary victories; and I saw newspapers in London retailing these lies and eager intellectuals building emotional superstructures over events that had never happened. I saw, in fact, history being written not in terms of what happened but of what ought to have happened according to various ‘party lines’.
George Orwell"
George's words are as applicable now as then.
" eager intellectuals building emotional superstructures over events that had never happened."
this is entirely accurate description of today's MSM
If a simple referendum is enough for a region to become independent the what is you opinion on Taiwan?
Deadly force is deadly force. National Socialist Hitler made good his promise to shoot himself before deliverable plutonium weapons came online. The Soviet Socialist KGB chief likewise named dictator-for-life could do his Russian people a similar good turn. Even a small neutron bomb detonation at Zaporizhzhia would deprive Russians anywhere near the Sea of Azov of lebensraum way larger than Ukraine for several decades thanks to the prevailing winds. So, do you feel lucky, Tovarich?
Still alive Hank?
Reason Rundown
Republicans Accuse State Department of ‘Radical Gender Imperialism’
"Republican lawmakers are accusing the State Department of “radical gender imperialism” and of seeking to push other nations to “normalize and encourage transgenderism among youth.”
Putin repeated a number of now-common lies
I see ENB has picked up the habit from NPR of referring to the propaganda of people she thinks are awful as lies. Like NPR, she doesn’t realize how obvious that makes their bias. My issue is not that ‘propaganda’ is not mostly synonymous with ‘lie’, but the selective use of certain language (always dumbed-down) to describe the political rhetoric of disfavored parties. The Biden Administration lies constantly, but for some reason they never call it lies.
She could have just written “Putin = Doubleplusungood” and skipped the exposition altogether.
*message edited just because it is possible!
occasionally, when someone says something is a lie...... it is because it is a lie.
Sure but increasingly, it is just occasionally.
But not when a journalist says it.
Nice non-sequitur, shitweasel. What the fuck does that have to do with my point that they change the language they use to describe the exact same behavior depending on the affiliation of the speaker?
What about all the lies that they know are lies but don't call lies? That is a lie in itself, and I am calling it out.
the specific thing you have a problem with her calling "lies" are actually lies....... you are choosing to die on the hill about using the word "lies" to describe actual lies. (lies used to excuse an unjustified war.)
sorry if you are too stupid to understand.
(lies used to excuse an unjustified war.)
Ouch, you almost had a point, but you just had to take it too far. Let's see:
"the current war being a mission to liberate Ukraine from neo-Nazis" - you can certainly argue this is a lie, but it is probably more correct to call it propaganda. There is undoubtedly a large faction in Ukraine aligned with such goals, and while it doesn't represent the national government, this faction may have more influence in the regions the Russians consider to be within their purview.
"about Western nations turning Ukrainians against Russia and fomenting war" - pre-invasion this was propaganda, but considering the massive volume of weapons and money funneled into Ukraine, it is now undeniably 100% true. Unless I missed all the people cheering for the Russians. They must be holed up with the people that cheered on 9/11.
"The goal of that part of the West is to weaken, divide and ultimately destroy our country" - NATO was formed for the exact purpose of opposing Soviet (Russian) hegemony. How is this anything but propaganda? It is still absolutely true today for Putin's government.
sorry if you are too stupid to understand.
I am not the one failing to comprehend the implied political bias of calling Biden's fabrications 'agenda' and calling Putin's fabrications 'lies'. They are both completely politicized viewpoints which are much more accurately described as propaganda.
This change in language by media sources coincides with the aftermath of 1/6. That was the first time I ever heard a major news organization say a President lied. FFS, Nixon 'obstructed' and Clinton 'perjured'. Find a single citation of a major news source that wrote that those two told lies outside of an opinion piece. NPR and ENB report it as news, but only for those they disfavor.
Dissemble, deflect, distract. Congrats, you demonstrated all 3.
that is a whole lot of defending Putin's lies like good little troll farm troll for someone calling it a non-sequitur to point out that you are defending his lies.......
"They are both completely politicized viewpoints which are much more accurately described as propaganda."
are you honestly trying to suggest that you would have had no problem with the article if they had used the word "propaganda" instead of "lies?" STFU, you are so full of shit. if that were the case, you would not be trying to make arguments to defend the "propaganda."
Defending Putin's lies? I did exactly the opposite, you mendacious twat. I identified Putin's propaganda for what it was. Your refusal to acknowledge the U.S. has actively opposed Russian hegemony for over 100 years and has sent billions to Ukraine specifically to oppose Russia is a batshit crazy level of denial.
And yes, as a matter fact, I would have had no problem at all with calling it propaganda, which is why I called out that it is just another form of propaganda to refer to Russian propaganda as Putin's lies. Putin is not our nation's problem. The people magnifying his villainy want him to be.
Have you ever read the story of the boy who cried wolf?
When you lie about someone or something so consistently for so long, people won't believe you when you decide to tell the truth.
Russia is a convenient example of this, because there was a pretty important and well repeated lie told about them for several years in American media. One of our major parties parroted this lie for a long time. Do you see why that might make people skeptical about coverage of Russia?
skeptical is one thing. refusing to even entertain the notion it might true is another. especially when you are not just letting the flock die, you are actively defending the bogus excuses for an unjust war.
Why should I believe that people who have spent the last 4+ years lying to me are now telling the truth?
If they wanted me to entertain the idea that they're telling the truth they probably shouldn't have lied so much leading up to this.
the problem with regurgitating the same BS talking point over and over again is when you are too lazy to update them..... trump has not been president for almost 2 years, so saying "for the last 4+ years" is more than a little outdated.
beyond that, you can't defend a country invading another and killing it's people on false pretenses and pretend you are the one with the higher moral ground. you are just defending even worse lies because you are mad about other past lies. (by an ambiguously defined "they.")
"saying “for the last 4+ years” is more than a little outdated."
So how should we define the last 4+ years then? What's the hip and fashionable term that all the kool kids down at Huffpo are using?
he was president for 4yrs.... it has been 2 more years since then. either your gripe has continued after he left office and it has been 6 years, or you mean while he was in office and the word "last" no longer applies.
either way, you are a fucking moron for even trying to defend the use of this outdated talking point. (on a comment made by someone else after just an hour ago trying to call me a sock puppet.)
Media who spent 4+ years peddling the Russia hoax, doxxing random meme makers, harassing grandmothers, defaming Catholic teenagers, lying about Kavanaugh, and claiming a dead Iranian terrorist meant Armageddon didn’t magically start telling us the truth last week.
so that makes Russia's invasion of Ukraine totally cool? my god, you fuckers are dumb.
Oh look, now you’re putting words that I never said in my mouth. Talk about losing gracefully.
I'm sorry if you are too fucking stupid to understand the point and are more interested in trolling than saying anything meaningful.
you dumb shits are getting all worked up about pointing out that what Putin is saying is all lies and false propaganda..... and you are apparently too stupid to understand that you are as a result defending him and his actions.
i get that you guys want to talk about the unrelated past sins of the media, but this is probably the stupidest imaginable place to try and make that argument...... you are not attacking the media, you are defending Putin. "how dare they say Putin is a liar!!!!"
It’s a rhetorical trick. It’s using a word loaded with connotation to project that connotation onto the target. So, for example, state propaganda is called News and propaganda from enemies of the state is called Lies.
so..... Chuck P is Russian? he is putting anything not pro-Russian in your "enemy of the state" category.
He probably watches Faux News too, amirite?
for many of those who spout shit this stupid, fox is far too liberal for their tastes.
Shrike learned this from Maddow.
They are really bad at it. But, then again, their target audience is not that bright.
you're Shrike. go kiddie porn or whatever other unimaginative BS insult you guys like to attach to that lame insult.
you’re Shrike
I actually laughed out loud.
Were you stomping your feet just before you wrote this? How sad it would be if we were actually arguing with an 8th grader.
Can the Sunday morning political talk show be saved?
good god, why would anyone care about this?
Come one Chipper, what is the world going to do without Chuck Todd?
Chuck Todd apparently goes to the barber and asks for the "Lloyd Christmas."
You mean hair club for men, no?
Someone who is hoping to be called onto a Sunday political talk show panel?
If they wanted to invite ENB, they'd have invited her by now.
Looks like we might be going toe to toe with the Ruskies in full on nuclear combat. Where is Colonel Kong when you need him?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcwEVjxfrmU
We always have a need for Slim Pickens, damn it. Now as much as ever.
Fuck Joe Biden.
47 days.
And fuck Vlad Putin while we're at it. He has guaranteed that his own death, whenever it comes, will be gruesome and bloody.
A peaceful cerebral hemorrhage, with an inexplicable entry wound. The soviet way.
Only if he puts the Makarov in his mouth, so he hits his basal ganglia lizard brain.
Also the way of You Know Who Else.... 🙂
"Russia will use all the instruments at its disposal to counter a threat against its territorial integrity—this is not a bluff,"
A guy threatening to jump off a bridge doesn't affect me much. Unless he's got a rope tied to me.
Hey: it turns out we have an official definition of human trafficking!
What Is Human Trafficking?
Human trafficking involves the use of force, fraud, or coercion to obtain some type of labor or commercial sex act.
Can someone fluent in leftspeak explain how buying plane tickets is "human trafficking"? Because it sounds like a bullshit excuse to throw your political enemies in prison.
a bullshit excuse to throw your political enemies in prison
"Fair" in leftspeak.
Can you cite an instance where that happened?
wow.
The terrible sea lion everyone.
http://wondermark.com/1k62/
No, I can't. Plane tickets to Martha's Vineyard definitely don't count.
Right. So, in the past few days, when “human trafficking” was used to describe DeSantis’ publicity stunt it was just talk. And DeSantis is never going to be convicted of human trafficking.
They're going to try to convict him of human trafficking.
Try their absolute hardest.
They wouldn't be leftist if they didn't attempt lawfare against political enemies.
You just gave the reason why that try would fail, so we can agree then it’s just bluff.
Derp derp derp going after political opponents and dragging them into senseless lawsuits is okay, because they probably won't win anyway!
It’s called “lying to gullible democrats who will believe it.”
the right already stripped most of the meaning of that definition when they try to paint every act of prostitution as "trafficking."
sounds like the left is getting rid of the "sex act" part since the rest already got taken out by the right.
"The right"?
really? you are not aware of the conservatives who tend to mostly bust regular prostitutes in their crusade against "trafficking?"
No. Cite some examples and then I'll give you some of mine.
I'm aware or a lot of government officials who crusade against human trafficking and mostly confuse prostitution with human trafficking.
I'm not aware it's just "conservatives." Can you back that up? Before we proceed, if I showed you cases of democrats cracking down on sex workers in the name of "human trafficking", would you digest that and adapt your thinking? Or are you immune to facts?
Or are you immune to facts?
To answer 'yes' would make it a fact which would be a paradox. Which is irrelevant because that sick bastard Foo_dd strangled the poor cat before he put it in the box.
i give you credit for trying to be original.... but still lame.
I give you no credit whatsoever. Can I assume my failure to be original stems from you actually having strangled a cat?
"Before we proceed, if I showed you cases of democrats cracking down on sex workers in the name of “human trafficking”, would you digest that and adapt your thinking?"
yes, i would. when it comes to legislating this kind of morality, though, conservatives tend to be the ones who own that.
Elizabeth Warren Voted For A Sex Trafficking Crackdown. Now She’s Worried About “Unintended Consequences.”
https://reason.com/2016/09/09/the-truth-about-us-sex-trafficking/
Here you go.
Interesting.
The Washington Post says, "Biden to U.N.: ‘A nuclear war cannot be won and must never be fought"
But in the text of the speech does not include that phrase.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2021/09/21/remarks-by-president-biden-before-the-76th-session-of-the-united-nations-general-assembly/
Exactly, that's how it works. The Washington Post is News, your comment is Lies.
The Clintons must be low on funds, they revived the CGI
https://twitter.com/WillHild/status/1572299440677068802?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Some highlights
Bill Clinton and @Unilever CEO Alan Jope discuss how Unilever is putting the ESG agenda ahead of their fiduciary duty to shareholders:
Why are they all starting to look like Doctor Evil?
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BlackRock CEO Larry Fink claims that ESG driving energy prices higher is actually a positive because it shrinks the "green premium."
More horror at the link. We are being led like sheep to slaughter
A gigantic fucking racket.
Libertarians need to get it through their thick skulls that gigantic multinationals like Blackrock and Unilever aren't a product of the free market and a part of the invisible hand.
They're quasi-governments in and of themselves, they hold corporatist relationships with the emergent global super-state, and no longer regard themselves as having a fiduciary responsibility to shareholders. They're just as dangerous to human freedom as the last time serious corporatism emerged in the 1920's and 30's.
They aren't private companies like Bob's Plumbing, Western Laboratories or Duluth Interstate Trucking and we can't regard them as such.
You'd think a political homicide MIGHT make the links here.
You'd be wrong, however.
ND Man runs over a teenaged Trump supporter for being a Trump supporter.
Even was shocked --- SHOCKED --- that he was being arrested for running over a teenager intentionally and killing him.
https://1010wcsi.com/fox-news/north-dakota-man-free-after-admitting-he-fatally-hit-republican-extremist-teen-with-car-while-drunk-records/
I mentioned it above, but yeah, no big deal for Reason(s) Magazine.
Too local for Reason and ENB; too far outside the Beltway.
It must not have been trending on Twitter.
Isn't this a hate crime? Or does the flavor of the month rule apply?
MAGA white male victim? Hate for him is exempt from prosecution; NOT hating him might be a crime.
EVERY Reason Editor would be writing an article is the situation was reversed. And, EVERY new station and blue check Twatter would be screeching about it. And the consensus would be unanimous - ORANGE MAN BAD!!!
God, please, for once, let this happening be real.
First, Putin won't get 300,000 infantry out of this, maybe half that, and poorly armed/supplied/equipped, under shit leaders. Just more cannon fodder for the Ukrainians.
And if Russia's conventional forces are in such sad shape, what makes anyone think their nuclear forces are any better off? What if Vlad orders a nuclear attack and the missiles don't launch, or blow up in the silos, or go the wrong way? The USA spends a great deal of money assuring the nukes are reliable. Suggest much of the money the Russians allocated for their nuclear forces has ended up in various pockets. And keep in mind the prevailing winds in the Ukraine blow from west to east, giving Russia the gift of fallout.