Yep, Forcing Employers To Pay for Drugs That Violate Their Consciences Is Still Prohibited by Federal Law
A judge sided with a plaintiff who objects to procuring coverage for HIV-prevention medications. Rightly so.

A provision of the Affordable Care Act, a.k.a. Obamacare, requiring private employers to cover the cost of controversial drugs was struck down by a federal judge today.
Before you start checking the year on your calendar, note that it isn't contraception at the heart of the dispute this time, as it was in 2014, when the Supreme Court found that family-owned companies such as Hobby Lobby couldn't be forced to pay for abortifacients, and in 2016, when the Supreme Court ruled in a similar case regarding religious entities such as the Little Sisters of the Poor. But the facts of the current case are parallel, so the outcome should probably not be a source of great surprise.
"US District Judge Reed O'Connor ruled that the requirement that employers offer insurance plans that cover HIV-prevention pills, known as PrEP drugs, violates the Religious Freedom Restoration Act" (RFRA), reported CNN. "The requirement's challengers, employers in Texas, argued that the mandate facilitated behavior to which they have religious objections."
RFRA, which was signed into law to great and bipartisan fanfare by then-President Bill Clinton, creates a multipronged standard for when the federal government may coerce Americans into violating their consciences: For such a regulation to pass muster, it has to further a "compelling governmental interest" and to be the "least restrictive means" of doing so.
Courts are often loath to interfere when it comes to that first prong. In the Obamacare contraception cases, for example, the justices accepted (dubiously, in my opinion, but we'll set that aside for now) that lawmakers have a compelling interest in ensuring women's access to free birth control. It was the second prong, they said, where the mandate went awry.
As the state was eventually forced to admit, demanding that employers be the ones to pay for women's birth control is not the only means to lawmakers' stated end. Other, less restrictive methods—direct provision through a federally funded program, say—could achieve the same thing. Heck, such an alternative would arguably be more efficient, given that not everyone has employer-provided health insurance (or, for that matter, an employer) at all.
In any case, the "least restrictive means" prong of RFRA's test has for years now been understood to shield many Americans from requirements to pay for drugs to which they have religious objections. The employers in today's PrEP drugs case voiced such objections to being "complicit" in what they view has an immoral sexual lifestyle. (Abiding by the mandate, they said, would amount to "facilitating homosexual behavior, drug use, and sexual activity outside of marriage.")
Whatever you think of the substance of that conviction, the underlying principle remains valid and worth defending: "The government should be held to a very high level of proof before it interferes with someone's free exercise of religion," as Clinton put it back in 1993. "We can never be too vigilant in this work."
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But there's always a catch : the Biden Administration's OSHA has determined that having an individual conscience is a workplace hazard...
>>"facilitating homosexual behavior, drug use, and sexual activity outside of marriage."
broad brush paints all homersexuals as drug users.
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Anyone conversant with gambling math understands health insurance is a rigged wheel--the more so when imposed at gunpoint. A public servant I spoke with recently opined we'd be better off letting the anti-vaxxers have their way and die off. It is strange when someone paid to believe government propaganda agrees with someone of no such payroll or persuasion.
I have heard that smokers have lower lifetime healthcare costs, because they die younger.
Fuck off and die, asshole.
You're a weird dude hank
That would be strange, but how does it apply to your situation?
No, it paints all PrEP drug users as either homosexuals OR drug users. It's still a broad brush but not the one you claim.
lol I thought about that & couldn't imagine an Appeals Court allowing "your honors they're using drugs to treat their illness. drug users!"
Well, I expect that most users of PrEP ARE male homosexuals and/or drug users. But I'm sure a fair number are heterosexuals married to people who got a bad blood transfusion, too.
It's a useful treatment regardless, my only concern is that for the larger group, it may encourage them to forget for a moment that the vaccine doesn't do squat to protect against any other STD.
Well then you're a fucking moron, because there hasn't been an HIV infection caused by a blood transfusion in nearly 15 years, and the risk is 1 in 1.5 million. Unless a tiny fraction of 1% constitutes "a fair number" to you. In which case you're still a moron, just for a different reason.
It will be twice as funny when they are paying for HIV treatment, I bet that's cheap...
No. Individually each of those listed behaviors alone puts one at increased risk and is an indication for use of prophylactic therapy.
You are the one thinking in broad brush terms.
It does not paint all homosexuals as drug users. It lists behaviors that entail risk of contracting HIV.
So called "religious liberty" in this country protects homophobic Texas businesses who think an invisible man in the sky got a bunch of shepherds in the middle east to write a book 2 thousand years ago that tells us all how to live.
We don't need freedom of religion we need freedom from religion. These mentally ill people and their delusions of invisible sky man need to be stopped at all costs.
Do you realize that you come across as more rabidly dogmatic and irrational than the most devout fundamentalist?
I don't need protection from religion. I ignore it and it mostly ignores me. You, on the other hand, ...
Yet mystical assertions serve in a fascist/communist/mercantilist mixed economy as pretext for men with service pistols to dish out deadly force. Even in the court system, mystically-connected infiltrators demand oaths as religious tests for office and impose these on the meekest officers of the court--every workday in the year 2022.
Your bigotry and desire to suppress opinions and acts of individual conscience you do not accept is duly note
The military is kicking out service members and denying them retirement benefits for displaying images of the archangel Michael or objecting to experimental medical treatment that violates their religion and conscience, while in the private sector religious people are no longer allowed to operate in over a dozen different professions, while the only religious test for public office has been instituted by Democrats who illegally ask about religious affiliation of teachers and soldiers in order to discriminate against religious people in hiring. I never thought I'd miss the real Hank Phillips, sarcasmic, but you're so fucking bad at this and so abjectly stupid that I yearn for the real Hankie's God's Own Prohibitionist copypastas.
It doesn't ignore me and never has. It turned all of society against me until some cracks began to form when Ellen came out.
Maybe you're not the sort of person religion targets in this society. Go live in some other fundamentalist culture, one that hates your kind how about, and see how you like it.
Fuck off and die to this asshole also, from an atheist.
Yeah I noticed how persecuted you were when the Coca Cola float went by while you were sucking off a monkeypox-addled faggot at the Tulsa Pride parade, Tony.
You know, with imaginary genders, chanting drum circles, worship of primitive cultures, and the preponderance of crystal healers among progressives, the invisible sky man is starting to look more reasonable.
Unless of course, as a libertarian, you meant to say you reject all delusional, irrational doctrine.
I do reject all delusional irrational nonsense, healing crystals, homeopathy and all types of alternative medicines included.
I'm not sure about "imaginary genders", as you call them. What about intersex people? They used to be called hermaphrodites. How do you decide whether they are male or female?
"What about intersex people? They used to be called hermaphrodites. How do you decide whether they are male or female?"
I don't decide. In the very small number of cases you are referring to
(fractions of a percent of the population), both is a valid answer.
The extra genders are for gender nonconforming people. We used to say that gender doesn't dictate behavior. Now, liberals want to label every deviation from the norm.
You don't seem like the same loveconstitution of yore did you take their name?
This is shreek. Note the dash between "constitution" and "1789". He started this handle while the actual loveconstitution1789 without the dash was still a commenter here. When he first started the sock he was trying to do parody and failing spectacularly as he always does, but he recently brought the sock out of retirement and began playing it as a straight character because he hoped everyone would have forgotten. He did this because I outed the half dozen or so of his other decade plus old socks that he's been dusting off here lately. I can't believe he thought I'd forget this sock when the others he pulled out were far older, but he's nothing if not incredibly stupid.
Fuck off and die asshole, from an atheist.
Believing in a sky man is mental illness. Chopping your dick off and maintaining an open wound where it used to be then suing anyone who declines to participate in your delusion that your festering wound changed your biological sex is enlightened.
Stick to posting kiddie porn shreek. It's quite literally the only thing you're competent at.
Edgy.
Uh, did it occur to anyone to separate health care funding from both employers and government? I know this sounds crazy, but how about pay people for work and let them buy their own health care and health insurance?
Employer funded health care should be taxed at 200%. That will discourage it.
That would be ironic considering the only reason we have employer-funded health insurance - not health care - in the first place is because of Democratic politicians imposing a 90% marginal income tax on "high incomes" back in the 1930s so employers started offering then-un-taxed health insurance as a perk to attract employees.
True. And make PrEP drugs and all drugs over-the-counter and cheap as candy.
OTC and cheap as candy are not always related.
No kidding; The SAMe that slows the progression of my arthritis is OTC, but anything but cheap.
It has occurred to many people. It has been progressive policies that first tied it to employers and then to government.
So Jehovah's Witness own businesses can block coverage for blood transfusions and Christian Science owned businesses can block ALL medical coverage? Where does it end? Will every religious prejudice be honored and employees can go without?
They can do what I did: started my own business and then bought the health insurance I preferred (until ACA came along.)
I opted to pay a lot of things out of pocket and relied on health insurance only for catastrophic medical events (i.e. high deductible.)
Yeah, and if you do not like that do not accept a job from them.
Don't like paying taxes for national healthcare, you don't have to accept living in a country.
It's a cogent analogy because being born in a country is exactly the same as negotiating a compensation package with an employer.
I guess you'd have to not be an AIDS-riddled faggot living off of government assistance since birth to understand how negotiating compensation works though.
You do understand that the job market is, in fact, a market? If you do not like the compensation for your work, you should find another job.
Oh no! You mean people just walking around purchasing health insurance with their own money instead of being swaddled like a helpless infant by their beneficent employer?!
Next thing you know the mining company will stop issuing tokens and close down the company store and everyone will starve to death!
Already addressed. Government must have a compelling interest and employ the least restrictive means of implementing it.
This article exemplifies the mentality that concluded that stopping vigilantes with guns from kidnapping escaped slaves was brutal interference with the religious and ethical precepts upon which the Fugitive Slave Act was erected. In current political terms it is pleading that private conversations with invisible buddies make the initiation of force ethical and good. And in biological terms it smuggles in a theory that HIV--which fanned out from former German colonies where narcotics were dumped--is an STD, rather than transmitted by contaminated heroin and needles. Assertions.
Seek help.
Your post exemplifies an idiocy which should be recognized as such. Fuck off and die, shitpile
The abolitionist movement was much derided as forcing their religious views upon people who did not share their ethics. Slavery was muchly defended by a "freedom from religion" argument.
You're even worse at this than the real Hankie was, sarcasmic.
I just want to know who the jack-legged employer is so I can avoid them for future job searches and for whatever products or services they offer.
I wouldn't want a warranty or service plan that includes prayer. And if my services are not good enough to compensate with insurance, my money must be no good too.
Fuck Off, Knuckle-Draggers!
Ask at the interview.
Is that too fucking hard?
Let me guess, you were one of the pink-haired retards picketing a locally owned and operated Chik-Fil-A franchise store 10 years ago because the CEO of the company donated money to religious causes?
Imagine being such a smoothbrained fucking retard that you would avoid buying products from a company because its insurance plan doesn't cover tranny meds and sacrifices to Moloch.
Do you also boycott companies who don't offer their employees medical insurance, or who utilize independent contractors? Surely you're a
manwomannon-binary faggot of principle and not just a virtue-signaling stupid twat simping for Reddit upvotes, right?As is your right. Find an employer willing to subsidize your immoral behavior, or fund it yourself
My religious liberty doesn't end because I want to start a business.
Can't decide where to apply Poe's law in this, the article content, or the commenters.
Time to make health care a private matter. Time to take another look at "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" - if you want insurance, you go to a bookie and make a bet. Be honest about what it is. Insurance is not some magic pot of money that you don't pay in to, but that amazingly pays your bills; it's a system in which, if you loose the big bet, you win a smaller bet, and vice versa. It's time to get both government and employers out of health care and insurance thereof: a 60 year old gay male shouldn't be required to buy obstetric coverage, but a 25 year old mountain climber should probably think about having some pretty good orthopedic surgery coverage.
And until that day comes employers shouldn't be forced to pay for things that violate their conscience you stupid twat.
In absence of government mandate the alternative is "Don't work for employers offering health plans you don't like."
How is that unreasonable?
Paging Scott Shackford...
What religion is in favor of people getting HIV? Oh let me guess.
You don't get to ignore laws because you believe nonsense. That's not a liberal or libertarian principle. It's horseshit.
Uh, the 'religion' that promotes the unlimited activities of gay folks at the cost to others, shitbag?
Fuck off and die, asshole.
Let's all pretend for a few months that 'monkeypox' wasn't about gay orgies.
Even though that's pretty much the entire vector.
That will protect the people we are trying to not offend.
Just not from the disease.
None that I know of. Failing to provide you with novel drugs that didn't even exist 20 years ago so that you can pursue a bugchasing lifestyle on their dime is not the same as being in favor of you getting HIV, faggot.
"I oppose paying for these drugs because the old man in the clouds sent me a sign proving they were evil."
"Yes sir, no problem and sorry for the inconvenience."
"I oppose paying for these drugs because I read they don't work, and besides, not my responsibility."
"Oh yeah! Up against the wall and hands behind your back mother fucker!"
And yet oddly you only have a problem with the former while cheerleading loudly for the latter. It's almost like you're a lying cunt, sarcasmic.
Anyone that supports freedom should want a total separation between healthcare and employers.
The reality is many Americans that were born with chronic diseases are literally enslaved to a certain class of employers with good healthcare plans.,
Most of us take it for granted that in America anyone can start a business with ambition, skill and hard work - that is false for anyone with a chronic disease or illness.
For example: a wannabe entrepreneur with Type 1 Diabetes, requiring daily insulin and food health insurance, doesn’t have that freedom in America. People like this can literally die without a good health insurance plan.
Nobody is “puritan” on either limited conservative or socialist issues. Americans love public schools, public police departments, public fire departments, social security and Medicare - partly or fully all publicly subsidized programs.
Republican Richard Nixon supported a universal healthcare plan MORE liberal than both Obama or Biden. So this is a non-partisan issue.
Why not have public healthcare or at minimum a public voucher program so consumers can choose their doctors and healthcare plans?
Agree Cointelpro. Harnessing health insurance to employment is arbitrary and leads to all kinds of unintended consequences.
Looks like sarcasmic is in a stupor and has forgotten the lore for this sock again.
Or possibly you're just a lazy, stupid, incompetent piece of shit and your diabetes that can be controlled with an inexpensive synthetic hormone that you can buy with a doctor's prescription at any pharmacy in America with cash, credit, debit, or check isn't actually the reason that you're a pathetic loser who failed at business and life.
Lol. One dead guy who was president back in the 70s had a liberal healthcare plan so it's a nonpartisan issue. K.
Yep, Forcing Anyone To Pay for Any Things That Violate Their Consciences Is Still Wrong
FTFY
Ted Olson, former Solicitor General for George W. Bush, is also a devout Christian. Arguably Olson is the most devout Christian in the White House since Jimmy Carter.
Nobody has a monopoly on religious interpretation. Is the employer here practicing Christian malpractice?
Olson and Carter may have a more accurate Christian interpretation of a religion based on the teaching of Jesus. Both are likely better educated in religion than this employer. Jesus embraced prostitutes, outcasts and those with unpopular diseases.
Most real Christians would likely support including HIV drugs. Either way, under the First Amendment and Article VI of the U.S. Constitution, government money and resources can’t be used to establish any religious interpretation.
In this case, the employer seems to be cherry-picking their religion to use as a weapon against causes they dislike.
Yeah I remember that time when Jesus saw a leper begging in the streets so he went to the Roman prelate of Judea and had him decree that a tax be laid upon every merchant in the territory to provide the man with food and shelter and then sent Roman centurions door-to-door to enforce the tax.
You know less about Christianity than you do about economics or politics, shreek. Stick to fucking little boys in the ass.
Everyone should watch CNN’s Special Report titled “Deep in the Pockets of Texas” that aired on 7-24-22. There is a great libertarian argument here also.
This may be an integral part of this story, providing overall context of type of Christian “theocracy” (foreign model of government imposing religion onto it’s citizens) instead of religious freedom guaranteed under the U.S. Constitution.
Under Jimmy Carter’s and Ted Olson’s view of Christianity, the Texas guys in the CNN report are not following Christianity at all.
Lol. It's been fun watching you get on your knees and gobble the knobs of the Bush admin acolytes you spent 8 years histrionically screeching about, shreek. I was wondering where the fuck you got the name Ted Olsen from after 20 years. Remember when the Democrats sank his nomination for AG because he was "too extreme"?
When you want deep scholarship on Christian orthodoxy you just can't beat a CNN hagiography of a philandering neocon warmonger who's been married 4 times.
I don't understand the religious argument here. They might believe most HIV carriers are homosexuals or illicit drug users, but that's not a religious belief.
Having HIV, itself, is not against religion. Nor is all sex against most religions. (If they're a millennial (in the original sense) cult that's against all sex, then okay, i can see their religious claim. But otherwise the connection to a religious belief is tenuous at best).
OK, so how about if they only have to comply with the mandate for all of their straight employees who pass a drug screening? Now their religious claim is valid and the result is exactly the same since HIV is a disease exclusive to faggots who have ass sex with other men and IV drug users who share needles both of which violate their religion. And then you can blubber like a fucking retard about how that's not fair because all you're all really interested in is forcing Christians to give their money to faggots.
First of all, it's not exclusive to homosexuals and needle users. For 2019, 23% of new HIV diagnoses are heterosexual, the vast majority of which were women. Meanwhile, only 7% of new diagnoses were injected drug users - even if all of those were miraculously heterosexual, that's less than 1/3rd of heterosexual diagnoses.
So not only is the belief that only homosexuals and drug users get HIV not a religious belief, it's empirically false.
Nor does it make sense to deny generally applicable to medical care to one group (homosexuals) while extending it to another group (heterosexuals) - at that point, your religious beliefs clearly don't forbid the *treatment*.
I assume all their employees have to pass a drug screening anyway to continue employment. They're allowed to fire people for failing those, and then they don't have to pay for any of their healthcare.
Monogamy entails zero risk of contracting HIV. Your argument is invalid.
Did they object to providing treatment for all STDs, or just HIV? Cause it looks like it was just HIV. Your argument is invalid. (And doesn't Christian belief involve forgiving sinners, especially repentant sinners? So monogamous *now* doesn't mean always monogamous, without violating any belief tenets.)
Companies have no conscience nor religious belief. That should be the end of it. You want all the advantages of having a separate entity for business purposes? Fine. But you cannot then claim that this entity shares your religious conscience.
I know that Scalia et al have no problem with that inconsistency, but that doesn't mean it's the correct decision.
If you want your business to have your religious conscience, don't set it up as a separate person.
Using the term "employer" just conceals the dishonesty at the heart of these decisions.
... and Reason commentators have the nerve to pretend offense when I call them a homophobic lot.
"...Hobby Lobby couldn't be forced to pay for abortifacients..." Hobby Lobby refused to pay for morning-after contraception due to its IRRATIONAL BELIEF that these were "abortifacients." The Supreme Court refused to examine the science and consider the rationality of Hobby Lobby's belief. In the case of PrEP drugs, it's IRRATIONAL to refuse to prevent HIV, when treatment of that disease costs so much more than prevention. It's really quite frightening to see a publication called "Reason" defend irrationality so strongly.
Forget the cost-benefit analysis. There's no legitimate nexus to religious belief. The belief that HIV-infections only strike homosexuals is both wrong and not a religious belief. They can be against homosexuality all they want, but there are a significant number of heterosexuals with HIV.
I run a website called prepispoison.com, which I created as a tribute to my late friend Terry Michael who was a REASON journalist.
PrEP is a giant fraud. Terry spent two years investigating the corruption of its clinical trials and exposed how Fauci covered up TWO controlled clinical trials showing PrEP to be completely ineffective. Terry died in 2017, and I continued his research.
As of 2022, according to AIDSVUE.org, PrEP uptake has no correlation to new HIV incidence in the indicator groups. The conclusion should be: PrEP doesn't work.
PrEP created a multibillion dollar new market handing out toxic chemotherapy to healthy people all based on a lie. The pharma giant Gilead Sciences did the same thing with Tamiflu, now considered to be worthless. It's time to end this corruption.